Sea peoples: “there are no pictures in these written records!”

Early civilization mad lads smh

History is written by literate people lol

>refuse to elaborate

i love you.

Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

start all of them with: "Carthago delenda est"

@@fionafiona1146 Let us all be Cato the Elder.

I may know it

Interesting... Thank you!

The real MvP

Wallace MacLeod's Egyptian Bows in New York offers more information.

To elaborate, they found one of the bows buried with a prince, which makes it, to me, seem like a closed-case. I see little reason why they wouldn't be able to verify that, or why they didn't cast aspersions on its capabilities, given that they found it and it was verifiable that it was the exact bow Egyptian sources had spoken about. A modern bow, can penetrate sheet-metal steel, and it can do it easily. Composite bows were an absolute gamechanger. They were unrivaled. They were the dreadnought of bows. I don't find it a stretch that it could shoot through some copper ingots. It *certainly* could shoot through armour, and I don't think there were tin-men covered in 3 inches of armour, which is a naval vessel level of armour, during the Bronze Age. So I figure it really doesn't matter if it's a boast, they could do exactly what was needed, and with proficiency.

@@iMajoraGaming Thanks for the info (for anyone looking its McLeod, W. E. (1962). Egyptian Composite Bows in New York. American Journal of Archaeology, 66(1), 13. doi:10.2307/501476, I found it on sci-hub). The estimate they give is that it could penetrate a metal (brass) plate 0.002 to 0.003 m thick from a distance of 30-40 m.

Well in this case their only real mistake was an over reliance on chariots in their military. Everything else, assuming this theory is correct, was outside their control.

IAmFourteenAndThisIsDeep

I wish we would stop doing them.

....and a perfect summary of the dumbing down of history teaching.

Everything he said in his history of the world video was in reference to some aspect if history, there were no throw-away lines.

Volcryn Darkstar i could think of one or two that might be arguable. but it’s generally good.

Volcryn Darkstar how about “this is stupid” and then black screens for 10 seconds

Cornwall apparently I just found out tin was rare but honestly I thought it was common

I read the title and said "now the Phoenicians can get down to business."

It's exactly the kind of name you would give to people we know nothing about who came suddenly from the sea

They are also know as Sea Men

If northern Europe was in such bad shape and they became sea people early scandinavian vikings perhaps? I mean the drive for resources were similar as the later scandinavians wanted to spread out due to resource issues. However this situation seems more serious.

@@DudeWatIsThis you're making their case bruh they might not have been there from the very beginning, but 3000 years is a long ass time

@@orions2908 Yes of course. The Jews themselves were not native to that land either (they had settled it a few hundred years before). In general, Canaan/the Eastern Levant has always been one of those "in-between-empires" areas which get trampled and stomped on every few centuries.

So Kinda like calling a priest father/pater? Edit: Linguisticly not Culturally. Just genuinely curious.

Ancient societies were patriarchal, and in that is the origin of their political and social systems. Clan and family systems were applied to the conception of what states were and how they should operate.

​@@vorynrosethorn903 What you suggest is quite correct as well as the socio-economic system, local and foreign resources, language, farming (from the Neolithic onwards), the weather and the environment in general that played a huge part in the cultural development of a society. However, there's no getting away from the fact that kings (and queens) imposed themselves on a culture to varying degrees. There was of course the fear of invasion from outside as well as usurpation from within.

Age of Mythology battle theme immediately comes to mind

I was listening to a Wendover Productions video the other day (he covers logistics and transport) and suddenly the music transitioned and I thought, "The battle of Munda?"

I thought u were talking about 2020 Oh wait......

Lmao

Hahahahaha

ROFL

The sea people waited 1200 years to ask the tribune to sack a bunch of cities.

And for that reason, I'm out.

Severely underrated

2050CE: Rising sea making people anxious

Lampedusa, Italy 2020 See people still make me anxious

I wonder if we were to collapse from this not quite pandemic, combine with instability of the financial system and tension between major economies, would historian call our period the Plastic Age collapse? The Chinese Collapse? The Epidemic Collapse? The 2nd Pax Americana Collapse? The Western Civilisation Collapse? I wouldn't imagine if I were a Hittite or Mycenaean, I would have thought of the destruction of my world to be called "Bronze Age".

@@lc9245 nervous laughter intensifies

Hardly in harmony.

@@12coudak000 I don't think you got the reference pal

Only tin, the metal essential to all of our crafts, could stop them. But when the world needed it most, it vanished. A generation has passed and my brother and I have discovered the new Pharao, a bronzebender named Ramesses. And altough his chariots are great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to defeat anyone. But I believe Ramesses can save the world... Pharao, the last bronzebender

@Lovecraft Nope... It's from the only western animation cartoon that is worth watching: Avatar, the last airbender

Lovecraft Is spongebob anime then?

Yes, I believe also that the y to Greeks and Romans was more like an u sound at the time

@@omegacardboard5834; Don't know about Greek, but Latin (Roman) 'V' was the original 'U' before the 'U' letter was introduced in the 16th century. A dead giveaway is that the letter 'W', to this day, is still pronounced "double-u", and not "double-v".

@@pintorpi333 yes that it correct. But the Romans also adopted the Greek y for Greek names/ words they borrowed from Greek. It’s not quite the same V/u sound in Latin, it’s like a u but with tighter lips and you sort of lift them up a bit and it’s a bit more aspirated I believe

@@pintorpi333 Depends on language. In French it's "doobla-veh". Double V. I think the more obvious pointer would be that in Greek Cyprus is Kypros. A hard K sound and not a soft S sound. Although some prominent etymologists say that's just some popular, lazy bs.

@@aaronleverton4221 well you can always look it up. There is no letter C in greek. There is kappa K and there is sigma S Cyprus is spelled Κύπρος and is pronounced Kupros or Kipros.

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. I had to switch my comments from top comments to new just to see if someone else noticed. As a blacksmith I was shocked to hear that statement. 3 inches of metal is very think. Be it steel, iron or bronze. No arrow can pierce that, ever. Unless that arrow is traveling WAY faster than a bronze age bow could lose. I believe Tod Cutler made a video showing and I believe accurately demonstrating what heat treated steel platemail could withstand Interms of stopping arrows. I only wounder what other things are wrong in this video. 3 inches of metal penetration is frankly bullshit.

@@frozenironforge5133 It is unfortunate that one mistake can cast doubt on the rest of what someone is saying, but Historia Civilis is pretty good when it comes to matters of history. This mistake is probably due to a combination of a claim being read in passing from a less reliable secondary source, and a lack of specific familiarity with weapons, armour, and metalworking. I watched your video on forging a camp axe. It was pretty cool. Do you plan on uploading more of your work to KZfaq?

@@philodox9991 Okay good to know, still I can't help but take everything he says with a grain of salt. Hey thank you! I do yeah, just a matter of getting around to filming some videos, definitely something I need to do more of!

The fact that you had to explain it is hilarious, who actually believes that a bronze age bow can kill a ww2 tank? Bruhhh

@@aluminiumknight4038 How about 100,000 bronze age bows against a ww2 tank?

They were based af

What about that time Sardinia sailors sailed with Spain and Venice to stop the Ottomans invasion of the Mediterranean and basically ended the ottomans as a naval power?

In the XIXth century, the major power in Italy was Sardinia, and it's them that pushed for Italy unification, so... not that irrelevant :p Well, of course it was actually Savoy, but still, it counts ^^

Feels bad man

Napoleon Bonaparte notwithstanding, I suppose that you are correct.

Right... I want a good idea of who these invaders were too

As an Egyptian, I am proud that we have such a glorious and great history

@@yousefshahin2654 Be proud ! Egypt history is amazing.

@@avalle4493 Thank you 😀😊

@Seaworth Look, it's kind of yes nad no at the same time. Traditions and society are completely different. But we still kind of embrace them, and we are proud of our ancestors.

The human civilization is the oopsie. The current state is a result of thousands of years of human stupidity and greed.

@@Jaml321 Why have human societies made stupid decisions? Why has greed been such a strong factor? You seem to radically reduce something so complex and interesting as humanity's development, to such a boring, overly simple conclusion, without even asking some very impirtant questions. If humans were naturally stupid, our cavemen ancestors would've all died from poor decisions. If humans were naturally greedy, our early ancestors wouldn't have shared food or shelter during hard times with those who need it, losing future allies either through their death or worsening relations. They'd be ostracised from their tribes, and have no one to turn to when they were in trouble. Humanity is not the oopsie; nothing is absolutely bad or good, even if they do approach one end or the other; a wrench can be used to build or to sabotage, power by itself is neutral, and humanity is very powerful; the difference, is that a wrench has no mind of its own, but humanity can choose to do bad or good. Please, do yourself a favor, leave this misanthropic pessimism behind, and ask questions, with the end goal of how to make sure humanity can do more good than harm. Giving up on something is sure to bring defeat, whatever the goal may be, and humans are all we got, so give ourselves a shot.

They didn't subscribe to Pewdiepie. Now look what happened

@@katiaquirino6020 Humans kill each other and destroy nature and the planet from the moment they took it over to make a quick buck. Its like we are shitting the bed we are sleeping in. We are a scourge on the planet and there is no doubt it would be better off the moment we die out from whatever stupid war or other contraption we are going to create that speeds up our demise. Humans pose only problems for the earths ecosystem, they are the oopsie of evolution.

@@Jaml321 @Jaml321 Ah yes, I sure am glad my corporate and stately overlords didn't sign an agreement designed to heal what damage we wrought on the planet. God forbid the stockholders lose their money. And don't get me started on the progress of ww3 so far! Look, humanity has its many faults, but the attempts at making the world a better place are not unfelt. Organizations like the Red Cross, Habitat for Humanity and the many USA organizations dedicated to preservation of nature would be impossible in the world you just described. And excuse my crassness, but people like you are a part of the collection of problems that plague us. You sound defeated by things you do not even understand. You sound as if you willfully remain ignorant in an attempt to appeal to blind pessimism. If humanity were to listen to people like you who condemn them to shame in spite of their great achievements, then we would lose all motivation to progress. We would be driven to such complete stagnation that we would seek to die in our own shit. You seem to want humanity to fall, to not do everything in its power to try and reverse the damage it sows. You are your own evil.

Writing? Is that true?

@@hotkulen2196 I don't know if it's completely true, but I think during the time after the bronze age collapse there is a lack of any written sources from all the places mentioned in this video except Egypt, which I think is how the theory of the bronze age collapse initially began

@@hotkulen2196 During the bronze age collapse literacy went extinct in Greece and had to basically be reinvented over time.

Haha that annoyed me too.

it kinda makes sense. trade and abundant agriculture is what lets people specialize. If everyone isn't farming then they can take the time to write down history. Once civilization collapsed there is no one with free time to write things. Not saying writing went away...not that it didn't

An elegant weapon for a more civilised age.

Not being born over 1000 years is no excuse! He must have found a way!

He got permission from tribune Aquila to time travel

Domitius Ahenobarbus has travelled back in time to eradicate Caesar's ancestors, thousands of years before he was born!

Which leads to a causal loop/butterfly effect, where murdering Caesar’s ancestors only ensues Caesar is born and even more successful!

History memes are best memes.

I mean, if they can't retaliate your backstabbing, why bother?

Poland:Hey Hey I've seen this before. Its a classical one

@@drretard0343 *Czechoslovakia

sums up league soloq

Even when they do send help Help has drowned in a river along the way

Cicero is dead, there is nothing more to find there for HC.

@iRue399 he allready named a playlist for octavian and it will be a pretty long one as well. dont worry friend

Same lol I’ve been checking daily for the next video... I mean we are right about to see the history civilis video/videos about Octavius and Antony vs Brutus and Cassius, and then Octavius and Agrippa vs a Pompey son, and then (GOT himself- Gaius Octavius Thurinus) Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus and Agrippa vs Mark Antony and Cleopatra, and then Octavius become Augustus, the first citizen and all his great changes to Rome, and then somehow he outlives everyone he meant to give power to so he could sorta retire in peace, and he loved Livia too much to stop her evil scheme to kill the good people Augustus would have given power to, just so Livia could give power to friggin Tiberius... which set a terrible precedent and so she caused a few evil emperors... which also began the crazy awesome storyline of Roman rulers, some great and some horrible. If Augustus would have stopped her before she got started, then Augustus very well might have left a different system in place with good people and the senate with the power.. but Livia killed all the good people Augustus knew so all the power instead went to Tiberius like she planned and that’s how we got the history we have lol anyway I am so excited for these next few videos of Octavius - my doppelgänger.

Your videos never disappoint... thank you for producing them! Mostly just kicking in a couple thoughts that always bugged me about the Bronze Age Collapse - I always get a little agitated that I rarely get a glimpse into what was going on in the Black Sea region during that time. There’s plenty of archeological evidence that there was plenty of interaction and trade between the Black Sea region and the major powers of the time and they had seafaring technology to be active traders. Given migrations from Northern Europe to the Black Sea region during Roman times, it seems perfectly plausible for people living in that area to have been displaced by Northern Europeans and/or migrating tribes from the steppes who might have had their own environmental pressures due to climate change. I’m not a historian, but I am extremely curious about what was going on there at the time and what issues they might have been facing that would affect their interactions with their more civilized neighbors.

I really want to hear more about how, having destroyed their tyrant, they still failed to save their republic. No reason, why?

Lmaooo

I put all my eggs in the Jesus basket, so he better come first.

@@MagplarImposter

Funny I've got them pegged for October.

I've got Third Impact scheduled for December and Sea People in October

Before the dark times... before the Sea Peoples.

Hello there

Garrett Fuhrman ah, you beat me to it!!

@@Arashmickey Sea Peoples itself sounds scary af for me but that quote just made them even more terrifying.

We have many, Atlantis being another.

Games are based on history.

In a sense, all tropes come from history, not the other way around :)

@@DLimit Actually no, Atlantis straight up never existed. It was little more than a blueprint for Plato to describe his Ideas.

@@jorenvanderark3567 wrong. The city most likely existed and they even have a location for it. But people exaggerated a lot about the city based on Plato's book.

You are correct , but we still have a little time

Glass beads from Egypt have been found in Denmark (presumably paid for with amber)

@Alex Gully I mean, we've found evidence of complex civilization dating back to 10,000 b.c. with Göbekli Tepe, so I shouldn't be as surprised as I was. I guess I always thought of the Bronze Age as a few hotspots of cilivization surrounded by untamed wilderness. Looks like that wasn't the case.

@Alex Gully Sounds like the same thing that happened after the fall of the Roman empire. People started loving inside old stadiums fallout style because no one played sports anymore and places needed walls.

@@andrasbeke3012 gobekli tepe is not evidence of complex civilization. its evidence that religion had a much more important role in developing civilization as these megaliths presumed to be places of congregations may have been the seeds of fully fledged settlements.

It's an example of the limitations of history, history by definition is about the times and areas we have written sources from but people settled down and started building complex societies long before writing was invented or spread to them. This has for a lot of the history of history left us in the dark about what life in those areas and times was like but modern archeology is helping to uncover a lot of this and fill in our gaps, still it's not quite the same as written sources and it's just a lot easier to imagine what a place was like when we actually have the words written by those people. But yeah global trade is actually a lot older than you might think and areas outside of what we tend to think of as the "civilized world" were actually a lot more like that world than we imagine. For example a few thousand years after the Bronze Age you might think that beyond the borders of the Roman Empire were just endless forests with small villages and people walking around with helmets that had horns on them but actually it would be more or less impossible to tell these areas apart from the Roman Empire as they looked very similar. The differences between these areas was more like the difference between the the current superpowers like the US and China and their smaller allied states in Europe, Africa and Asia. But if your only source for learning about our world was Hollywood you might think that everywhere outside of the US was backwards and untamed and that's basically the situation we're in when trying to learn about the past.

Oh boy have you not been keeping up to date with the manga if you think that Rameses was the biggest thing here. Wait until you see in the manga actual giants 50 meters tall, millions of them, marching out of the ocean with a 500 meter tall Eren walking skeleton leading it, stomping out entire cities

@@robertjarman3703 ok spoilers man

Egypt is apparently Paradis then LOL

Given other Bronze Age artwork throughout the region this seemed to be a common strategy.

@@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999 out of all the places I hoped to avoid Aot spoilers lol

Not as clumsy or random as a blaster...

"this does put a smile on my face"

I see Rainbow H, I click.

Goddamn Civ. You do all those vids on my favourite period in histiry that I know the most about and then to mix up the content then you do the period I know the most about relative to average person. Like i know more about the late republuc but its also so famous every average person knows a little about it but with the Late Bronze Age Collapse they cant name like 3 of the main powers from the end of the month .not a knock against them at all im saying it's a societal thing. I mean when i started grtting into it, 3 of the first 4 books i was recomended to read each had an explict separate section purely for promoting the argument that this was more significant historically than the fall of Rome and likely had more of an impacton modern socitu. Also he's always arguing that this event should simply be called "the dark age" and post Rome should be called "The Roman/Western European dark age" like he's real fucking invested in it. Anyway point is thanks for some reason deciding to pick you video topics based purely on what will make one random Sub in Australia Happiest I should have done it a while ago but you legit have a new patreon when i get next paid

Eamon isn’t the average person, he’s a step above.

I feel like 7 ships would've been a lot in 1200bc.

@@johnnysasakithethird1209 Actually 7 warships has been "a lot" since the XIX century forwards, because it can carry so many cannons.

I don't think they had cannons in 1200bc

@@johnnysasakithethird1209 Use your brain to analyze things that you are told. *Because they didn't have cannons, 7 ships was very little, you needed a lot of ships because fighting was done man to man

@@johnnysasakithethird1209 the ships were much smaller, 7 ships couldn't carry anything worth batting an eye at.

Back when running wasn't invented

The Zulus, with shields and assegai defeated the British at Isandlwana (with Martini Henry rifles 7 pounder field guns, and bayonets) with their ability to run (to the flanks and rear of the British).

Usually it is mobility versus fire power in the military. Spearmen and chariots are different class of unit, but I believe when armoured, trained spearmen in decent formation could beat the chariots.

@@pavel9652 I mean, you don't hear much about chariots going against a phalanx. So it's safe to say that.

This isn't a vid about the stone age.

It didn't have cities so modern intellectuals are not big on it. Additionally it disproves the noble savage myth which is important to certain utopian ideologies. Beyond that most of these societies were fundamentally patriarchal, and tended to be led by priest-kings, based on the ancestor cults of the tribes (clan might be more accurate) they came from. However much of this was just as true of the bronze age, and much later. The old clan system was broken but the Church in western Europe in the middle ages, and patriarchal based government and civil structures as well as a divine hierarchy continued well into the enlightenment. They are effectively gone now, but will likely come back with a vengeance as they are disproportionate in communities who reproduce.

Bruh you could switch them with Battleship and plane respectively, and it would still make sense haha

You: I'm not amusing.

LOL well put, thanks fer the laff

3000 years later: Germans: we have state of the art tank warfare Finland: *stuffs rag in a bottle of gas and lights it on fire* LIGHT EM UP!

@@HolyKhaaaaan Makes sense to replace Germans with Soviets, seeing as Finland allied with the former and fought the latter.

Ancient astronaut theorists say, yes.

Aliens ate my homework.

the aliens invaded northern Europe causing the mass migration and the heat was because the aliens needed a warmer Temperature to survive but then they ehree finally beat back but then time traveling scientists from the year 3031ish used thier time traveling machine to go back and clean up any trace of alien life.

What you meant to say was " I'm not saying it was aliens, but........". :)

I'm an Alien and I agree, we really outdid ourselves on this one 💫👽

Hey man! As a fellow vet I love your content

I personally prefer Invicta slightly over this channel but this is solid as well :)

That's more or less what I did when stumbled upon the channel 18 months ago. 😅

Have you heard of the younger dryus??

@@Maazitung Luckily there is room enough to LOVE both and yet still not have enough content.

climate is not local

@@BenState "its raining outside my house so it must be raining in tehran and beijing too" U wot m8?

@@BenState typically when one area is extremely hot and dry, another area is extremely wet and temperate. We see this especially with just our yearly climate patterns, like with the el niño/la niña events. Most especially significant, is that most the world is unaffected.

@@BenState This planet is divided up into many climatic zones. You have heard of Artic, tundra, boral, temperate and tropical, right?

He is correct. Nile water comes from Ethiopia and the Rift Valley of Africa, thousands of miles from Mediterranean sea.

Lol

*cheap

I thought it's sheep manufactured chariots.

Buying isn’t “CHEAP”

Why are people so terrible at spelling words like “cheap” and “tough” now? I see people writing “cheep” and “tuff” now more than I did a few years ago.

Well, aliens *did* build the Pyramids, after all. :^)

is not steel... not even Iron, is bronze.... and of course not the quality we made bronze nowadays... by today standars was pretty rubbish

Yeah the majority of claims about arrows effectiveness on armor are greatly exaggerated by modern historians. I'm pretty sure they're just using linear equations starting with a very thing material control to accomplish this. Either way these metrics are demonstrably wrong.

@@Doctor_Mantis what kind of armour would people need to have 76.2mm thick of armour lol.. they are a tank obviously.

I reckon this was supposed to be 3 millimeters or MAYBE 3 eighths of an inch, but even that would be quite a stretch. There is no fecking way, an arrow went through 3 inches of solid metal at room temperature. not even lead.

Even vedic traditions are always talking about chariots.

"Chariots Chariots! Cave here...Prime. Look in this next test I need you to go to Cyprus in the bronze age for a chariot...For Science!"

8:35

Even the Art of War by sun tzu mentions chariots

And composite bows. Not as clumsy or random as a regular bow, but an elegant weapon for a more civilized age... before the dark times, before the Sea Peoples.

Killing hasn't been as stylish and refined in Ages, wink

The Jedi Sea Peoples

Well, times have changed.

Im really curious in what way was a composite bow an improovement over a normal bow during the bronze age?

@@s_for_short2400 I believe the material was able to store more energy while being flexed back, making arrows being launched faster/stronger, it also was smaller and less cumbersome, but I haven't read about it in ages so I might be missing details.

It's possible that even at the time, many may have disagreed as to the "true" causes of their crisis. Famine? Droughts? Earthquakes? Sea people? Bad politicians? Punishment from the gods? It might be difficult to see even the cause, let alone solutions, especially through the haze of fear, despair and anger which would likely have been present in discourse. That's a lot of speculation though.

Also because they were kinda similar to us, most people give too much of a credit to these nations. Famines were commonplace in anatolia back then, so a few crises at the same time can absolutely destroy hitites. Once the central authority gone, cities are easy picking for raiders of any kind.

Sounds like today

cmon guy, you know, your living it.

To be fair information was very limited back then. The average person on the ground was obviously aware of bad things happening, but not exactly why.

ye kinda feel like that aspect of it all would have been quite an important factor tbh, what I found funny though was him showin western and central europe as " northern europe"

@@goranpersson7726 well it’s northern in relation to the greeks and the other civilisations that were destroyed lol

well to be fair their countries got hit by famin, no rain, instability and invasion and the earth itself going "nah bruh" and shaking their building until they colapsed all at once, maybe they really did anger the gods lmao

Yes. Like the Mandate of Heaven in China.

That sort of Mandate of Heaven philosophy is not native to the near east or Europe.

yeah I imagined a Great Depression (I knew it was economic not agricultural) but for 300 years. Sounds like a bad time

imagine africa

Oof

From what we know, what followed this collapse was one of the darkest periods in human history fro centuries, we're limited in what we know because across most of the old world written languages died out almost completely. Almost every major city outside Egypt was gone and every remnant of the old empires eventually collapsed over the centuries, never even being close in scale to the pre-collapse civilizations. Edit: Even China's Shang Dynasty saw apparent decline in this time and a few centuries later (1000BC) were eventually overthrown by the Zhou dynasty.

Global warming man. Started 3000 years ago

you watched the video too?

@@legion999 he actually just ripped off the full quote from the Sea Peoples wikipedia article, I can tell because he included "their confederation was the peleset, tejeker" etc, which is not included in the video. but if you look up "Peleset, Tjeker, Shekelesh, Denyen and Weshesh" on google the first result is the Sea Peoples wikipedia page.

"Shekelesh" OK so the sea peoples were Jewish

you can just feel the anger radiating from the full inscription.

We should remember that this inscription is hagiographic propaganda meant to aggrandize Ramesses III after his death. The more fearsome the enemy, the more glorious his victory.

But there had not really been a "collapse" of the bronze age in ancient China as far as I'm aware. The Shang collapsed because the Zhou conquered it, which then lead the continent into the first civilizational zenith of the Chinese Civilization. The Zhou were a mixed bronze and iron age civilization as they used both types of metallurgy. I could be wrong, but to my knowledge there was never a "Chinese Dark Age" period unlike in Greece. There was the post-Zhou period of chaos, but that wasn't "Dark." Just chaotic what with all the feudal states trying to Game-of-Thrones one another.

"The Bronze Age Collapse" was not global. The decline of the Shang dynasty was not similar to the collapse of these civilizations. A contemporary collapse did not occur in India, with the Vedics seeing a golden era during this period, and a collapse didn't occur for the Mayans until a thousand years after this. This was definitely a regional thing, highlighted and romanticized because of Eurocentric studies. Civilizations experience cyclical histories that can be seen parallel with others, but this event did not occur for all of them at the same time.

Taking bronze in the 30 year dash

@Violet Mia shut up boy

No....iron

Too many moderate-to-severe problems hitting all at once.

It was actually war, famine, pestilence, and death

@@CarlosRios1 nope....the iron age....ha

@@Great_Olaf5 This can be put into perspective with our world today: global warming, income inequality, pandemic, migrations, rogue states. A lot of crisis a once.

yep, exactly Egypt Everything that led to the bronze age demise can be tied to there being a Grand Solar Minimum ... as well as a concurent 2000+/- conjunction of the gas giant planets. The climate changes and seismic up-ticks were relentless the "sea people" were. forced to migrate due to major drought that began in western Europe first ~ desperate people exasperated desperate events

Egypt suffered heavy droughts also during this period. The drought was believed to have been caused by the "Hekla 3 volcanic eruption" causing a "volcanic winter" in Ramesses III's reign. The disruption of sunlight was so bad that worldwide tree growth was stymied for 20 years. On top of all this, Ramesses III had to deal with lots of wars. Constant war; Dealing with the Sea Peoples. Draining of the treasury. Drought -> Famine -> Instability It left Egypt terribly weakened and divided. From what I understand, of the various Bronze Age major powers, 2 survived: Egypt and Assyria. The Assyrians had it real bad and they basically withdrew into only their home territory. However, Assyria recovered and carved a powerful empire in the wake of the Bronze Age collapse while Egypt never really did. It got to the point that the Assyrian Empire subjugated Egypt.

@@billheineman472 There are a lot of things I could correct here but I'll settle for saying you mean "exacerbated." "Exasperated" would only make sense the other way around (desperate events exasperated desperate people).

The aftermath of a volcano that blocks the sun is terifing such as in 536, or that time in 70k bc that humans almost went extinct due to one.

@@Warmaker01 of the various Bronze Age major powers in western asia* fixed that for you

And the history we have is still mostly written as "great man" history instead of looking at systemic and socioeconomic dynamics. I feel like we are in a very exciting age of scholarly debate over how we view our history and I hope especially now with climate change and the coming collapse of old power dynamics we also focus and learn more about our own history with the environment and how it affected civilizations in the past.

@Akhand Bharat The bronze age collapse didn't affect human civilizations apparently to this ultranationalist

@Akhand Bharat You misunderstood his comment which meant a part of history was lost in these places Zindabad

I disagree. we know EVERYTHING humans have done thruout history, because the HUman Being is a very consistent ROBOT. Violence? CHECK! War? CHECK! RACISM or Corruption? CHECK! plus environmental crises? CHECK!

It reminds me of Xenephon's Anabasis, where the Ten Thousand Greeks find ancient ruined Mesopotamian cities that were older to them than Xenephon is to modern people.

I would love a movie of Rameses defeating a lovecraftian army of fish people!

i would watch the shit out of that movie

@@origami83 be better than 300 that's 4 sure

@@dominickdibart12 It totally would be! i mean, ancient egpyt and fish people! How could anything top that? :D

sort of like doom, but at the bottom of the ocean

Prob were assimilated like vikings were or the greeks did later on ?

@@Ilikeavocados123 the Greek is still exist

Most scholars think they became the phoecians of the Bible who went on to found Carthage

If it hadn't been for the Sea Peoples, I'd have been married long time ago.

@@happyslapsgiving5421 where did you come from, where did you go? where did you come from sea foam jones?

Everything changed *then* the sea people attacked

Damn you SeeMen...

@V R thats not a woosh bruh

@V R buddy he corrected the quote there's no woosh here

Beat me to the punch

I think he likes variety. It took him several years to complete the Ceaser playlist. He might get burned out if those are the only videos he worked on.

@@rodneylagrone7180 I mean I'm not complaining. All his videos are great

@@qnteban True. I was avoiding the "Can animals commit crimes", video. But after I went through all of his other videos I finally watched it and throughly enjoyed it aswell.

@@rodneylagrone7180 me too. The dude is tip top.

@@rodneylagrone7180 He had also been working on Macedon, Philip and Alexander series, I thought that now all the players he talked about in Ceasar are dead (Cicero, Kato, Ceasar), that his next video would be about Alexander. My best guess is that he is taking a time out from serial videos and making one offs until he finishes a better script for Alexander or Augustus. I think he is even thinking about moving a bit into the English Civil war. But I can see his style, he loves to build up the culture and system of the civilizations before moving on to the main series, if my hopes aren't too high, he could be preparing a post bronze age collapse series in the next two years or so.

All except China.

@@orlaoto5794 What can I say? The sea people weren't exactly known for being long distance runners...

@@orlaoto5794 China was killing itself so many times it really doesn't matter

@@orlaoto5794 Umm Indian here.

@@kaustubhlunawat7827 Ah. Apologies.

Man, barely anything happens nowadays and you still got morons insisting this is the "end times" and that Jesus is about to return. Meanwhile the Bronze Age people underwent catastrophic earthquakes, an excruciating drought, large foreign invasions from barbarian peoples and many other calamities.

at least we don't have the earthquakes and droughts...at least not yet

The normal way of fighting is outdone by a new thing called mobile infantry. No one adapts, everyone is still stubbornly holding on to outdated things.

A lot of people are working on bringing about civilisational collapse today. Just give it time and remember the sea peoples wanted only to migrate for a better life, but faced nativist aggression.

I mean, we are living through a version of it right now. The famine and drought migrations, waterwars and climate catastrophes have already started. Next comes waves of refugees and when they have nowhere to go and no other choice (because humans are greedy and don't plan for catastrophes) they will pick up arms to take what they need.

When they weren't Greek but Roman

@@chestersnapdragonmcphistic579 even them there was many minor rebellions

They invented chaos.

@@adamcoyne1315 as everywhere else

Blame philosophers

@Stephen Jenkins Yeah, the Late Antiquity citizenry was probably feeling the same. Until the elites couldn't maintain the illusion anymore. Then suddenly they found themselves surrounded by barbarian warlords and tax collectors, having to feed on their own production instead of global imports, having to defend themselves instead of relying on professional soldiers coming from afar, and so on. Laugh! ...while you can. Don't take your living conditions of today as granted, for they might change very, very quickly.

​@Stephen Jenkins almost all of those have happened in the past 10 years you moron... maybe look at countries outside your own for once?

Thats all literally happening right now arouns the world. Look outside the us, europe etc

@Stephen Jenkins Somebody's always first.

@Stephen Jenkins Alright, I'll show you what we're up against. 1. Peak Oil. Eventually we're going to produce less oil - so the oil-producing countries will face a significant shortfall in income and, thus, power. The countries which rely on oil will be forced to either find new sources or kick the habit. I don't know how many methheads you personally know, but I know some tweakers and, let me tell you: America ain't kickin' it's oil addiction in a generation. 2. Climate change. Climate change is such a big issue that it's startling that nobody seems to realize its great threat. Of course, it may seem like some folks are going wacko about how it's going to cause the end of the world (it won't), and others just have their heads in the sand, but the truth is a lot worse. You see, the people that seem to be screaming about the end of the world are just failing to realize that human civilization will go on long after you and I and America are dead. It might even be better in the future. But between now and then, we're going to face a period of unimaginable suffering. We're going to have worldwide famines, and we're facing the leading edge of these famines right now. Look at the Syrian Civil War and the massive refugee crisis caused by it - that war was in part caused by climate change. Imagine that happening all of the countries of the global South, not merely a couple. The famines will cause the price of bread to go up, and the shortage of fuel will also cause the price of bread to go up. The price of bread going up too greatly will result in revolutions which will see the rich get their heads cut off. I'm not complaining or saying we should avert this because I like rich people. I most assuredly don't. We are at the beginning of the collapse of global civilization - the very earliest point. This is why Historia Civilis uploaded this, because we are seeing a microcosm of this collapse. At this very minute, there are people dying in droves because of a virus that our economic system wasn't prepared to fight, that the psyche of the American people is unwilling to come to terms with, that provides the leadership with the perfect scapegoat with which to blame all of its problems upon. This infighting is not how it used to be. It is something new for us, or at least new for living memory. America is undergoing a drastic political polarization, there is going to be an enormous wave of famines and refugees in the not-so-distant future, and we are going to become economically, uh, "worse off" because of our insane dependence upon fossil fuels which we *have the technology* to remove ourselves from. Ironically enough, if we kick the petrofuel habit, we kill one major factor behind climate change! It's almost as if this were all some horrifying dialectical system which exists purely to showcase the contradictions of our present society. So, yeah. This ain't no "it needs to happen big time before I believe it" type nonsense. It's happening right now, right under our noses, and nobody realizes it because it starts out real subtle like.

nonsense