The Buddha Had His Limits

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Doug's Dharma

Doug's Dharma

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We'll look at a couple of passages from the early suttas that discuss the Buddha's limits with similarly shocking metaphors. There were, it seems, things the Buddha had no problem getting rid of!
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@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
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@nilakshanasachintha6027
@nilakshanasachintha6027 3 жыл бұрын
l am from buddism county from sri lanka , 🇱🇰 🇱🇰 ☸️ You are making it clear to the people of the world through this channel that Buddhism is not only a religion but also a science and that Buddhism exists not to be believed but to be explored. I am very thankful for you that. ☸️☸️❤️ 🇱🇰
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome nilakshana sachintha!
@nilakshanasachintha6027
@nilakshanasachintha6027 3 жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma Thank you so much ❤️☸️
@Giantcrabz
@Giantcrabz 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the challenging topics lately! That's why I keep watching this channel
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it Giantcrabz! Not sure how many of these I can find, but when I do I like to discuss them! 🙂
@iwalkinpeace
@iwalkinpeace 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug! I’m the guy with the rambling post last video on this subject. 😬 Great talk. I just wanted to share how gratifying to find I was tracking along the right path. I am fortunate to be able to hear the dhamma, study, and practice but there is no sangha to join here. A little confirmation is quenching and refreshing. Be well! 👍🏼☸️
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful iwalkinpeace! Yes, many of us lack easy access to local sanghas. There is a lot available on the Internet though, and now through Zoom. But yes, it isn't the same as in person. 🙏
@ValKitsakis
@ValKitsakis 3 жыл бұрын
You are doing great work with these videos, Doug! They are so informative and so pleasant to watch! Thank you so much for your teaching!
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Val, glad you're finding them worthwhile!
@hammersaw3135
@hammersaw3135 24 күн бұрын
I have been studying the Dhammapada and his metaphors are the best, they are genius in their ability to neuro linguistically reprogram every cell in your brain, upon hearing them one becomes serene like deep, smooth and still lake. "He who holds back rising anger like a rolling chariot, him I call a real driver; other people are but holding the reins."
@ianc8266
@ianc8266 Жыл бұрын
This idea is later expressed very interestingly in the idea of the compassionate and wrathful buddha in tantric Buddhism. Very interesting to see it expressed in the early sutras too.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma Жыл бұрын
🙏😊
@xiaomaozen
@xiaomaozen 3 жыл бұрын
Great video - as always! 😊 Thank you!
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure xiao mao! 🙏
@bam111965
@bam111965 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful teaching. Thank you.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Brian, thank the Buddha! 😀
@josiahgill1176
@josiahgill1176 6 ай бұрын
I love the description of anger as having a sweet tip & bitter roots. Angry thoughts feel so “fun” at first; they’re so fast & clear it’s like a high… with a bummer of a comedown. I was nervous to begin putting it away because I thought it was keeping me safe. It wasn’t, peace is lighter, it’s a cleaner feeling more sustaining energy. Love you & your vids
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, very kind of you.
@jaibhimjaibharatjaisamvidh4739
@jaibhimjaibharatjaisamvidh4739 3 жыл бұрын
Sir please come to India. You are the future for Buddhism
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
😄 I'm just a small guy with a KZfaq channel. But I would like to go to India someday! 🙂🙏
@jaibhimjaibharatjaisamvidh4739
@jaibhimjaibharatjaisamvidh4739 3 жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma You are always welcome in our nation
@rickschrager
@rickschrager 3 жыл бұрын
For example; "The highest penalty, Ānanda, after my passing away, is to be handed out to the monk Channa.” “But what is the highest penalty, reverend Sir?” “The monk Channa, Ānanda, may say whatever he wishes but he is not to be spoken to or advised or instructed by the monks.” -DN 16
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly Rick.
@dhananjayCB
@dhananjayCB 3 жыл бұрын
Because, The Buddha knows, how to treat a person so that one can get highest benefits of dhamma?. It doesn't mean that, Buddha has limits or no limits?.
@sonamtshering194
@sonamtshering194 2 жыл бұрын
In The Collected Teachings of Ajahn Chah, I did came across something similar to this where there were members of the sangha who despite the Buddha's best intentions and efforts were simply no good
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 2 жыл бұрын
The practice isn't for everyone I think.
@anicca6877
@anicca6877 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting and insightful.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment sanket, glad you found it worthwhile.
@Izzazzo
@Izzazzo 3 жыл бұрын
Another solid effort from you, Doug. This story of Kesi the Horse trainer really hit home for me! You know, this might explain why i was nearly killed 3 years ago. I had become difficult, angry, and practically unworkable due to false beliefs. what else was the great consciousness going to do with me? so, it brought a tragic and nearly fatal incident in my life, which caused my to turn inward for the first time in my life. but even after my incident I still tried to CLING to this old foolish ideas and egotistical savagery. once I began to let go of all that, things really started to change for me. Over a long period however. and my journey led me somewhere I never expected, the Buddha's teaching. To be honest, it's the most refreshing (and challenging) thing I've ever learned about and experienced. And refreshing because you can actually put to practice, unlike religious communities you encounter online, which mostly encourage debate and drama. So ultimately nothing can be learned or gained, and you just spin your wheels. so.......my life had been nearly taken, in order to give me life. it's really powerful. and I'm just thankful to actually be alive to talk about it. One mustn't fool around in this life. We grow up thinking everything is so mundane, unimportant, and unconnected, and even inconsequential - mostly due to pop culture and TV. Boy was I wrong. I mean, my ass got whooped in incredible fashion. I'm still recovering physically and spiritually. But, again grateful to be given this chance. Appreciate your calm intuitive insight Doug!
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch Michael! Glad you are better now, and gaining insight. 🙏
@Izzazzo
@Izzazzo 3 жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma i mean, to be honest. it was like being killed and brought back to life, within this very life. NOT easy. But much like darryl hannah said in Kill Bill: He had it comin'. Helps me deal with the idea of death too since i was at the door just moments ago. im sure you get a lot of comments so thanks for the acknowledgement!
@MushindoToKen
@MushindoToKen 3 жыл бұрын
The 5 books you have in the background which ones are they? I’ve been looking for a collection to buy and having trouble finding a complete set.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
They are translations of the four major Nikāyas of early Buddhism plus a few other sutta collections. You can see links to them in the show notes of this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZspzepWXzculgac.html
@MushindoToKen
@MushindoToKen 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! Always appreciate your teachings!
@BNSFGuy4723
@BNSFGuy4723 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking into Buddhism but the theological nature of traditional schools has turned me off. Secular Buddhism seems like you get the teachings without the religious trappings
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Well yes, that's kind of the idea, though to be fair there are a wide range of secular practitioners and some do enjoy religious trappings so long as they aren't accompanied by speculative beliefs.
@christophertito8118
@christophertito8118 3 жыл бұрын
The Buddha himself never claimed to have founded a new religion. "True" Buddhism was always about how to be happy and lead a stress-free life. It's the people afterwards who added all the mumbo-jumbo spiritual stuff and turned it into a religion like Hinduism or Christianity.
@BNSFGuy4723
@BNSFGuy4723 3 жыл бұрын
@Doug's Dharma I suppose if it helps you with your practice that’s all that matters. Thank you so much for responding! I love your videos and I’ve learned so much about early Buddhism and Buddhism in general from you 🙂
@christinatracy2119
@christinatracy2119 3 жыл бұрын
I've been learning some of what the Buddha "really" said and appreciate the insight. I would like to know if there is anything shocking in the dharma so I'm not blindsided if someone takes issue with Buddhism in conversation. Other religions have passages of text that aren't kind and followers have to ignore. Is there anything like that in Buddhism?
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting question Christina. Since there have been so many Buddhist writings over the millennia in different traditions I'm sure there is quite a lot that isn't kind in one way or another. In early Buddhism there are a few problematic passages, for example some around women that scholars believe may be later interpolations into the text. I did an earlier video about women in Buddhism that discusses some of it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bpxkntZ1tMDbiJ8.html
@GraycatLobos
@GraycatLobos 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I wonder about how to "kill" other bad emotions. I hardly ever get angry, and when I'm around a person with a bad temperament I feel anxiety, conflict makes me feel bad. But I do deal with other negative emotions, like sadness, anxiety, and impulsivity. How do one eradicate those emotions?
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great question Jimena. Nothing happens quickly, so it’s a matter of long practice. I did an earlier video on anxiety here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bsuBqs5ltKvJd4k.html .
@GraycatLobos
@GraycatLobos Жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma I just noticed your reply after 2 years haha. Thank you! I'll watch the video on anxiety :) Have you done any videos about impulsivity? I've been working on myself a lot after I posted the original comment, and I don't feel depressed or anxious anymore, but I feel impulsive all the time. Taking risky actions, seeking novelty, seeking something to fill the void I feel inside of me. Which is not sadness anymore, it's just pure lack of motivation to do the things I know that are good for me, and things that I actually enjoy when I get myself to do them. But there are moments where I just can't deal with myself and end up being impulsive. I think it has to do with crave. I crave so much more, and the moment I get it, I crave something else. I think secular Buddhism can teach me about this, but I don't know where to start. And lastly, I just wanted to mention that I appreciate and find refreshing the concept of "Secular Buddhism". Because when I first became interested in Buddhism, I just couldn't get my head around some supernatural things, like reincarnation and karma. But everything else I was getting to know about it, made sense to me. When I knew more people thought the same way about this, people who could separate the religious side from the philosophical and psychological sides of Buddhism, I felt like I wasn't alone. Yet, learning about Buddhism and following its good advice, is something I can't get myself to do. Just for the fact I mentioned above, it's like I delay everything that interests me, but I know that will be hard and will change me, and will take hard work. So I end up seeking instant gratification instead, getting me into a lot of trouble in the long run. You don't have to comment much on anything I said, I just want advice about where to start to conquer these impulsive actions, like, what to watch, what to read, what to listen to. :) I hope you see this, and thanks in advance!
@stevevest7206
@stevevest7206 3 жыл бұрын
I like to say we should just shine the light, but not attempt to force someone to see.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I don't think it's really possible to force someone to see.
@gkk2215
@gkk2215 3 жыл бұрын
Namo Buddha, Namo Ambedkar, Namo sangam ....
@babeksaber2702
@babeksaber2702 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 2 жыл бұрын
🙏😊
@lohithv835
@lohithv835 3 жыл бұрын
Hello SIR, Namaste!! Please help me to know about this topic "KATHAVATTU".
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
What about it Lohith? It's a book in the Theravāda canon, which is to say it's a sectarian treatise defending their belief system against alternate ones. It does not however represent early Buddhism.
@lucifer6228
@lucifer6228 3 жыл бұрын
Love you sir please makes video about Science and Buddhism
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It’s something I’ve considered doing many times. It is however an extremely complex and controversial topic, so it requires a lot of thought and preparation. We will see. 🙂
@DipayanPyne94
@DipayanPyne94 3 жыл бұрын
Doug, what were Buddha's views on Self Defense ? Did he talk about the use of force to stop someone, if, for eg, you are being physically attacked ?
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
I have a video on this general topic here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aceIndV2ydatmo0.html
@DipayanPyne94
@DipayanPyne94 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Doug ! I watched it. It seems to me that based on whatever we know about Buddha's views on how to deal with arrogant monastics who are rough and fierce, we can assume that Buddha might have been ok with being 'physical' to protect ourselves, without being violent. I think he was wise enough to understand that we should not get killed no matter how much we practice non violence. Am I right, Doug ?
@Traze
@Traze Жыл бұрын
Sir I want to know the Buddha's life form the very beginning including the words he said , so is there any book that will guide us to Buddhism through Buddha's life
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma Жыл бұрын
I have a whole course on that subject over at onlinedharma.org. 😊
@bruceLeeYK
@bruceLeeYK 3 жыл бұрын
I Have two questions 1) Should we eat meat or not? (Bcz Buddha himself eat meat and to survive we have to kill living thing either plant or animal.) 2) Are Buddhist atheist since there is no god in Buddhism?? Love your work ❤️❤️
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the questions Yutik. I've done videos on these topics. Eating meat: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qJufocaBqZ3Oe6M.html ; atheism: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7WBnL2TprbYh2g.html
@jaimerachelle2636
@jaimerachelle2636 3 жыл бұрын
In this day and age we have no need to exploit sentient beings. 💚🙏🏻
@bruceLeeYK
@bruceLeeYK 3 жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma Thank you Doug ... Watched this video's and got the ans ❤️😍
@cariyaputta
@cariyaputta 3 жыл бұрын
1) Buddhist monks and nuns eat whatever is placed in their alms bowls (if they go on alms rounds as is common in Theravada Buddhism) for the convenient of the generous lay followers. They don't cook for themselves, don't place the order, don't even shop and buy at grocery stores. The debates in Buddhism about going vegetarian or not primarily center around lay people's activities, who do go to grocery stores and restaurants to get their meals. To use a similar scenario for lay people, imagine you're vegetarian, but not for nutritional reasons, simply for ethical reasons to contribute less to the killing and meat industry. You're driving down a road and witness a car hitting a deer, killing it. The driver continues on, leaving the dead animal on the side of the road. From an ethical standpoint, there would be no harm in you picking up the deer and having it made into deer meat for your consumption. You didn't kill it, you didn't order the kill, but simply came across this road kill. You could drive on, ignoring the potential meat meal, but this would not change the fact that the animal is already dead, at no fault or request from you. The carrion would simply rot away if you do not pick it up. You are not saving any animal by refusing to eat it, and the possible "compassion" here is not really based on wisdom. In a similar way, the monks and nuns do not request or order the meat that is placed in their alms bowl. Further more, to cultivate vegetables, many pets, small insects, worms and rats were also killed in the process, so people who held themselves on moral high ground and look down upon others because of their veganism/vegetarianism really need to consider their double standard. So the conclusion is, eat whatever convenient for you without killing or make someone kill for you, you just simply won't be able to solve the supply and demand problem in your lifetime - your life is so precious and extremely short, instead, focus on what actually matter for the progress on the straight Path: Ethics, Generosity, Dhamma Learning, Four Noble Truths, Noble Eightfold Path, ... As it does not in any way shape or form matter to the actual practice (unless you suffer health problem from overeating or have bad diet), just remember to keep the 5 precepts, one of which is abstain from intentionally killing living beings. Textual reference: MN 55 - suttacentral.net/mn55 2) Yes, by definition, but we don't associate with its modern connotations and all of the baggage such as nihilism, annihilationism or materialism - these are regarded as false views by the Buddha. The Buddha in many places explicitly rejected the plausibility as well as the existence of a Creator God. These, however, are largely matters beyond the range and concern of average human experience. They have been mentioned here chiefly for the purpose of defining the Buddhist position, and not to serve as a topic of speculation and argument. Such involvement can only divert attention and effort from what ought to be our principal object: the overcoming of greed, hatred and delusion where they are found in the here and now. ‘The world has no shelter and no savior.’ - MN 82 "Regarding this, I went up to the ascetics and brahmins whose view is that everything that is experienced is because of the Lord God’s creation, and I said to them: ‘Is it really true that this is the venerables’ view?’ And they answered, ‘Yes’. I said to them: ‘In that case, you might kill living creatures, steal, be unchaste; use speech that’s false, divisive, harsh, or nonsensical; be covetous, malicious, or have wrong view, all because of the Lord God’s creation.’ Those who believe that the Lord God’s creative power is the most important thing have no enthusiasm, no effort, no idea that there are things that should and should not be done. Since they don’t acknowledge as a genuine fact that there are things that should and should not be done, they’re unmindful and careless, and can’t rightly be called ascetics. This is my second legitimate refutation of the ascetics and brahmins who have this doctrine and view." - AN 3.61 "These greedy liars propagate deceit, And fools believe the fictions they repeat; He who has eyes can see the sickening sight; Why does not Creator set his creatures right? If his wide power no limits can restrain, Why is his hand so rarely spread to bless? Why are his creatures all condemned to pain? Why does he not to all give happiness? Why do fraud, lies, and ignorance prevail? Why triumphs falsehood,-truth and justice fail? I count your Creator one th’ injust among, Who made a world in which to shelter wrong." - Ja 543 "If there exists some Lord all powerful to fulfil In every creature bliss or woe, and action good or ill; That Lord is stained with sin. Man does but work his will." - KN Ja 528
@bruceLeeYK
@bruceLeeYK 3 жыл бұрын
@@cariyaputta oh very logical ans I really appreciate your efforts thank you❤️❤️😍
@sskpsp
@sskpsp 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the "killing" was actually a small, hidden joke by the Buddha. Also, interesting to see the tetralemma show up in the Kesi Sutta as well: teach nicely, teach not-nicely, teach both nicely and not-nicely, and neither teach nicely nor not nicely.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, how do you see it as a joke? I see it as a metaphor for not having anything to do with the person, as mentioned at the end of the sutta: it would be like killing them since they would then have no access to the dhamma.
@sskpsp
@sskpsp 3 жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma I think the metaphor is the correct takeaway, I just had a humorous image in my head of Kesi's shock when the Buddha was insisting on killing the student, before explaining that it is not literal killing. Perhaps a humor in the sense of koans, such as "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him." I imagine monks reading and chanting scripture would have appreciated the small jokes where they could find them 😅
@Genos393
@Genos393 10 ай бұрын
Nice video 😊
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😊
@davidmichelson671
@davidmichelson671 Жыл бұрын
Although I can perhaps understand why in that moment the Buddha chose to make the comparison between how he teaches and how horses are broken, I wish the Buddha used that opportunity to teach instead about the differences. A more accurate comparison between how the Buddha treated students who were not interested in learning, and how horses were treated who did not want to submit to being used, is if the horses were set free to be wild, not killed. Just as well, the Buddha when he was being "harsh" did not himself inflict suffering onto the student, he merely pointed out the ways in which the student's own suffering was being caused by the student's actions. For the horse, being "harsh" meant the intentional infliction of suffering onto a horse who, again, did not want to submit to being used as an object. These differences stem from the root intention: The Buddha wanted to help alleviate suffering in his students. The horse "trainer" wanted to turn an individual into an objectified commodity.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma Жыл бұрын
🙏
@dhananjayCB
@dhananjayCB 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, Can you talk about the Vipassana, the Buddha's teaching ?
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
I did a video awhile back on Vipassana or Insight practice: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hrSKhaeB1dnem30.html
@tawkinhedz
@tawkinhedz 3 жыл бұрын
Your speaking voice and cadence reminds me of Ed Snowden. Both are telling the truth!
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
😄
@akshobiya7501
@akshobiya7501 Жыл бұрын
Buddhist Philosophy is beneficial.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma Жыл бұрын
🙏😊
@DipayanPyne94
@DipayanPyne94 3 жыл бұрын
Doug, can we be sure that Buddha didn't Literally support Killing ? Please Confirm it, coz the Moment I heard you say that Buddha talked about Killing someone, a Chill went down my Spine !
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing in the early texts to support the claim that the Buddha was ever literally in favor of killing.
@DipayanPyne94
@DipayanPyne94 3 жыл бұрын
Alright ! 😃 I just Heaved a Sigh of Relief, Doug ! Thanks a Lot ! Hail Buddha !!! 😎😄🙏🏼
@freemanrader75
@freemanrader75 2 жыл бұрын
Amen. Catching bees when I shooting an arrows.
@Tridib_Tinkel
@Tridib_Tinkel Жыл бұрын
Buddha's reply was funny. please make a video on uposatha sutta, udana 5.5
@kacperwarda5436
@kacperwarda5436 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, can any Buddhist answer me one question? I am a catholic, I believe in God, and I do not want to abandon this faith, but I also find Buddhist teachings very wise and I would like to explore them and add them to my daily life. Since Buddhism is not a faith, can I mix up those two? And also, are there any textbooks for Buddhism, like bible for Christians? And where can I find best sources to learn about Buddhism?
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the questions Kacper. I have various videos on these topics. For example, Buddhists of other religions: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bt2jp7aZ1dWXiWw.html . There are various canonical texts for Buddhists, such as the Pāli Canon, but they are quite lengthy. I have videos on those topics in my playlist on "Books". As for sources to learn about Buddhism, check out the other videos on this channel for starters! 🙂
@kacperwarda5436
@kacperwarda5436 3 жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma Thank you very much for your time, I will surely check out these videos later on!
@prashantlakhera6156
@prashantlakhera6156 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is very difficult to be a Buddhist and a Christian at the same time. Buddha denied existence of any eternal God living in eternal heaven. All the gods and heavens in Buddhism cosmology are temporary beings who are also stuck in the cycle of birth and death, who themselves need to attain nirvana through Buddhism and this is why Buddha is called teacher of humans and gods. And if you look at Christianity, you can easily see that it is clearly incompatible with Buddhism.
@user-ic4ce8xb5v
@user-ic4ce8xb5v 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's a year later but I'd like to answer in case this is helpful: there's no reason for you to feel limited by categories, if you appreciate some teachings from Buddhism and feel they improve your life, just practicd those things. Other aspects of Buddhism that aren't compatible with your faith you can just ignore. I think there is wisdom in every teaching, so you don't have to take 100% of anything. For example, you can practice Buddhist meditation but not agree with Buddhist cosmology and nothing will conflict with your faith. Best of luck to you!
@akshobiya7501
@akshobiya7501 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating.
@yasithperera5700
@yasithperera5700 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this is very well put. Of course Supreme Buddha had limits. He never actually claimed to be omnipotent or omniscient. Supreme Buddha cannot give a person enlightenment, or take enlightenment away from someone. Supreme Buddha cannot remove a person's bad Kamma etc. However, out of all the realms that exist in the Buddhist Cosmology. A Supreme Buddha has higher psychic powers and knowledge than the Gods and Brahmas and is superior to them. This is illustrated in many suttas and stories. So a born human having greater psychic powers than a born god/brahma did astonish many. Yet Supreme Buddha did not show off his powers, only in reasonable circumstances did he display those powers. Basically Supreme Buddha takes decisions from a reasonable and calculated standpoint, as an perfectly enlightened one is completely detached from this world or any world and it's not easy for our minds to understand this phenomena
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I suppose the Buddha knows whom he can help and whom he can't.
@yasithperera5700
@yasithperera5700 3 жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma Yes that's right. Supreme Buddha does know who he can help and can't. As he can see a person's spiritual faculties. How much wisdom has been developed, how virtuous they are. etc. And if they have the potential to awaken any of the 4 enlightenment stages. This is why Supreme Buddha travelled many miles to help as many as he could, who were able to realise the 4 noble truths. So Supreme Buddha couldn't help those who weren't able to comprehend the teachings, yet he could help them acumulate merits. Which is what he did.
@SouperFelipe
@SouperFelipe 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Doug I was reading a sutta recently that I thought was very odd. I can't remember the number of it, but it was about judgement. A woman asked a monk how it was so that her father and her uncle were both once-returners if they both lived very different lives. Upon returning to the buddha with this story the buddha said that only he, and people like him, are allowed to judge. This was quite shocking to me, because it sounds more like a narcissistic delusion of grandeur, rather than something I'd expect to read from the buddha. Indeed, it even sounds like the type of tactic a cult leader would use to manipulate followers. I was wondering if you could make a video talking about this.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
I recall seeing something similar though I'd have to have the sutta in front of me to have an informed opinion about it. My sense in general though is that from the Buddha's point of view, it's best not to judge unless you can truly do so without attachment, without greed or hatred.
@SouperFelipe
@SouperFelipe 3 жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma thanks for the reply Doug, that does sound like a more useful interpretation than how I had interpreted it. I found the sutta again, it's AN 6.44: "With Migasālā", if you'd like to take a look for yourself.
@howto2457
@howto2457 3 жыл бұрын
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@gra6649
@gra6649 2 жыл бұрын
There was this farmer that had a mule that was very stubborn, and hard to handle. Just so happens that the best mule trainer in the land lived only a few miles away. So, the farmer went to see him. When he got there they started talking, and the farmer asked the trainer what his secret was for training mules. The trainer told him that his secret was, treating the mule with love, and compassion. The farmer said, "That's great," and asked him to come by his farm. A few days later, the trainer showed up, and the farmer brought him to see the mule. On the way, the trainer picked up a 2 by 4 that was about 3 feet long, walked up to the mule, and hit it right between the eyes knocking him out. The farmer was alarmed, and asked the trainer, what happened to the love, and compassion? The trainer said, "Yea, love, and compassion, but first you have to get their attention". Rarely, but sometimes, the most compassionate thing that one can do, is punch someone in the noise. I got that story from my Zen master.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 2 жыл бұрын
Well yes, sometimes it's necessary to escalate the situation, but the metaphor may be a bit extreme. The keisaku is hardly a 2 x 4!
@gra6649
@gra6649 2 жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma Of course I didn't literally mean, or condone actual violence. I think that those days, and ways are gone. However, my teacher had his ways. lol He was one of the sharpest, most insightful people that I have ever known. And with a degree phycology it wasn't hard for him to give someone a virtual slap across the ego if he felt that one was needed. Please, don't get the wrong impression. Albert, was one of the kindest, and most gentle people that I have every known, and would only push those buttons when he had to, which was rarely. He is sorely missed.
@calypso146
@calypso146 Жыл бұрын
The image of the Budha appears so calm, blissful, loving, compassionate, forgiving. But in realty the teacher has many facets and according to personality of students. So don't be deceived by the image.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma Жыл бұрын
🙏😊
@uliuli201
@uliuli201 3 жыл бұрын
WE ALL HAVE LIMITS. WE JUST HAVE TO DECIDE WHEN ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
True!
@chiacheeseng538
@chiacheeseng538 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏 just in time to smooth my recent anger at someone.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! 🙏
@titussteenhuisen8864
@titussteenhuisen8864 5 ай бұрын
Killing in a physical way - reincarnation is the basis of life the problem will return. Killing what Buddha says means stopping the interaction, cut the ties that bind psychologically. Kesi the horse trainer can physically kill as there are no other horse trainers who want to try to tame that particular horse
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 5 ай бұрын
Right, it's a metaphor.
@fredericksaturnine4167
@fredericksaturnine4167 3 жыл бұрын
If anger was such a problem why does it exist in nature? The problem is the discontented mind which does not accept the way things are. I think the Buddha was overly critical of this human emotion because he himself must've been, at one point, very angry, later he very understandably saw it as a hindrance to his attainments. But this is ultimately because he resisted anger, not accepted it.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Not all that exists in nature is beneficial; nature is essentially amoral. And anger is indeed very enticing, the Buddha called it a thing with a poisoned root and a honeyed tip. But I'd suggest checking it out for yourself: sit with anger and see if it is truly pleasant. See if the desire to harm others is truly beneficial. suttacentral.net/sn1.71/en/sujato
@fredericksaturnine4167
@fredericksaturnine4167 3 жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma I never said it was pleasant. If it was pleasant I would probably be more suspicious of it.
@loveudon6972
@loveudon6972 7 ай бұрын
The Buddha following the Tony Soprano school of thought there 😊🙏🙏🙏
@stonew1927
@stonew1927 Жыл бұрын
Yup, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. At a certain point, you just have to accept that that's how they are. Attempting to force them to drink is an act of the ego. No point suffering fools . . .
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma Жыл бұрын
Yes unfortunately that's right, Stone. Eventually we have to have limits.
@andrewtom8407
@andrewtom8407 2 жыл бұрын
This is a rather odd analogy. The Buddha's teaching His followers was merely philosophical. The horse training was both physical and psychological. The purpose of the Buddha's teachings was to deliver His followers from the Karmic cycle, In that sense, the word "killing" might have meant "extinguishing", which frequently means to end one's karmic cycle. However, as Doug pointed out, it might have also meant ending one's bad habits, anger, etc. There is also a huge difference between horse training and the training of the Buddha's followers. The horse weren't willing trainees. They were forced to be domesticated and trained to work like slaves for their masters. The Buddha's followers were willing students who wanted to learn from the Buddha. No matter how difficult the student might appeared to be, one has to assume that his/her stubbornness was not out of defiance or resistance of the Buddha, but of some emotions that they weren't able to control. It might possibly be "self-hatred"?
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, hard to say for sure Andrew!
@amarok5048
@amarok5048 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what to make of this
@arlaxazure486
@arlaxazure486 3 жыл бұрын
From what I took: Don't teach a pig to sing. It's not going to work and it'll just irritate the pig. And especially do not give in to anger if you cannot successfully teach an individual.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that's a good start! Take it as a kind of Zen kōan then. 🙂
@maildeliverysubsystem3139
@maildeliverysubsystem3139 3 жыл бұрын
If you meet the Buddha on the road, what should you do?
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Well personally I'd want to chat with him! 😄
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 3 жыл бұрын
If you so much as get reborn in the times of the next samasabuddha, you would have done quite a lot already.
@tomepajmakoski9095
@tomepajmakoski9095 2 жыл бұрын
3:48 Laughed out loud
@fredericksaturnine4167
@fredericksaturnine4167 3 жыл бұрын
If I am physically enslaved and the only way to get away is to kill the master and flee, don't you think i have this right? Anger is a helpful tool in this case for instance. If I was just some dumb animal "content" with being a slave, imagine how much more prevalent and overt slavery would be these days.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
You may or may not have that right, but the question is what would be best for you? It depends on the circumstance. What is helpful indeed is energy, drive, focus, courage, wisdom. Anger can provide some of that, but at what cost? What if, instead of hating people and harming them, we could escape our bounds with a compassionate mind, understanding that those who harm others also harm themselves.
@TheWayOfRespectAndKindness
@TheWayOfRespectAndKindness 18 күн бұрын
A horse that cannot be trained remains free to be a horse. If we deny that freedom, we enslave ourselves. Please think deeply upon this.
@mehroseemehrosee3887
@mehroseemehrosee3887 3 жыл бұрын
Where does yoga’s origin lie....in Buddhism or brahmanism? It can’t/shouldn’t be both.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
It is both. James Mallinson has an excellent book on the roots of Yoga that you might want to check out for more.
@dpm12
@dpm12 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an anti-theist who wants to get into Buddhism, but also has problems accepting some of the more supernatural elements, so I'm considering being a secular Buddhist.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I find secular Buddhism a good place. Take a look see!
@prashantlakhera6156
@prashantlakhera6156 3 жыл бұрын
Karma and rebirth are both supernatural and basic foundation of Buddhism without which Buddha would be reduced to nhilism which was heavily criticized by Buddha himself.
@markbaker4425
@markbaker4425 2 жыл бұрын
@@prashantlakhera6156 its not nihilism to say. "I dont know what happens when we die. I just want to lead a good life and gain wisdom"
@markbrad123
@markbrad123 3 жыл бұрын
You can lead a horse to water.. Bet the Buddha was open to legitimate lines of questions and free discussion though.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, he certainly was.
@jsmth909
@jsmth909 3 жыл бұрын
How did buddha know that samsara is eternal?
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's a good question John. I don't know that the Buddha ever said that samsara was eternal, after all one of the famous "unanswered questions" is whether the world had a beginning or not. What he said was that he could discern no beginning to it, which isn't precisely the same thing.
@utkarshsingh-rp2dq
@utkarshsingh-rp2dq 3 жыл бұрын
you know there is a saying in Buddhism that ever buddha get angry after getting offended
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Well they're not supposed to get angry, though they may become pointed in their response. 🙂
@zonefire9410
@zonefire9410 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Sri Lankan Buddhist, 🇱🇰 🇱🇰 ☸️ and I would like to ask you a question. Today , excavations in the countries of the West Asian region of the world, such as Afghanistan and Syria, which are now home to the worst terrorists, have uncovered the remains of ancient Buddhist temples and Buddha statues. Take, for example, the Bamiyan Buddha statue, which was destroyed in a terrorist attack, I asking to you, how could the great Buddhism of the past be destroyed in this area? And if Buddhism had been preserved in those areas without being destroyed, wouldn't the whole world be at peace today?
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know the answer Ray. Things change, sometimes due to violence, sometimes for other reasons. But even places in which Buddhism is present are not free of warfare and strife, so I doubt that Buddhism alone would make the difference. After all, there are many ways people practice it.
@zonefire9410
@zonefire9410 3 жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma Thank you so much for your explanation ❤️❤️❤️☸️☮️
@shineisle2263
@shineisle2263 2 жыл бұрын
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@sychkid
@sychkid 3 жыл бұрын
Buddha forgives only three times.
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, where do you find that?
@sychkid
@sychkid 3 жыл бұрын
@@DougsDharma I saw it in an anime once. But it's a legitimate Buddhist saying.
@sonhuanson
@sonhuanson 2 ай бұрын
You can take the horse to the river, but you can't force it to drink. You can prescribe the medicine but you cannot force the patient to take it. At this stage, taking the horse to the river or prescribing the medicine, already made the job. You let go, and pass to next. The horse trainer can free the horse, he decide kill, because he train horses for profit. Profit as his motivation. Buda is not like that. He is whitout profit. He acepte freedom of people and let he leave. He act for empaty (compasion). But he knows, if leaving, is dead for. Horse die whitout drink. Patient die too whitout medicine. So, is a kind of killing, from a certain point of view. He knows too is not time yet. The plum blossom responds, without delaying, end of winter.
@Rohan-cw9zj
@Rohan-cw9zj 3 жыл бұрын
First
@growingmelancholy8374
@growingmelancholy8374 3 жыл бұрын
Pride
@owenslamansa4378
@owenslamansa4378 3 жыл бұрын
Noice
@isaacgreenough3448
@isaacgreenough3448 2 жыл бұрын
Why waste time 👌
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 2 жыл бұрын
True ...
@yogig6271
@yogig6271 5 ай бұрын
This video is not beneficial or illuminating a true Buddha utterance, regardless of sutra documentation. We were not there to verify, and it’s certainly not within spirit of wisdom structure
@jiankuo
@jiankuo 2 жыл бұрын
you read too many books
@DougsDharma
@DougsDharma 2 жыл бұрын
😄😄
@gabrielleangelica1977
@gabrielleangelica1977 Жыл бұрын
As a retired teacher, that would be a sad thing for a student to say...🤡
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 3 жыл бұрын
The title is clickbait. :):) The Buddha did not have any limits. A samasambuddha is a being limitless, boundless and utterly perfect. By definition. If one cannot understand something explained by a samasambuddha, he/she is indeed dead. Brain dead.
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