The Burning Crusade and BlizzConline | Players have a Voice!

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Ebbnflow

Ebbnflow

3 жыл бұрын

#TBC
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@09Ceekay
@09Ceekay 3 жыл бұрын
i vote for fresh tbc server without character transfer. starting tbc with maxed out classic characters and tons of gold doesn't feel right.
@BlackBirds93
@BlackBirds93 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%, but at this point I am prepared to get fucked in the ass by blizzard's bad choices BUT it doesn't matter in the end because at the end of the day I'll be doing arena all day
@neckbeardo1233
@neckbeardo1233 3 жыл бұрын
yes pls :)
@EB-bl6cc
@EB-bl6cc 3 жыл бұрын
@ 9:50 or so the "people will just invest in items and then sell those when they xfer the char" That's pretty easy to prevent, just make it so only BOP items are xferrable. At that point the best someone could do would be to have their bank full of random instance/raid gear that they can vend for a little bit if they want, but it won't be any crazy amount of gold that they can make.
@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats a pretty good solution actually
@nilsen39
@nilsen39 3 жыл бұрын
Good predictions, most of the things you mentioned went live :P
@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
I know, I've been happy for the most part about all the news!
@BlackBirds93
@BlackBirds93 3 жыл бұрын
I was so into the duels/arena I couldn't focus on what you were saying, god damn am I hyped for TBC, seriously gonna nolife that shit again
@riklaunim
@riklaunim 3 жыл бұрын
IMHO people starting at TBC or wanting a fresh start with TBC should be advised to pick fresh TBC servers while existing toons should stay on their own realms with existing economy. People with hundreds thousands of gold quickly will re-gain their capital even with any gold cap present - and the gold cap hits harder those that accumulated gold just somewhere above it but not farmed or specialized in it. Fresh non-transferable realms would also be good experience for pre-patch with new races, while on existing it would be boosting and people without cash or friends would just see empty zones (not to mention that TBC should have lower population caps or else - permanent layers).
@Sealtest
@Sealtest 3 жыл бұрын
Another video so soon?! oh my... I seem to have a case of the vapors...
@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
TBC HYPEE!
@randybobandy7203
@randybobandy7203 3 жыл бұрын
TBC-Mobile
@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
haha, please no!
@megamanx627
@megamanx627 3 жыл бұрын
Please don't say that
@connorkenney6938
@connorkenney6938 3 жыл бұрын
Just started playing classic again. Mainly to farm for my epic mount. Still don't have it :P and I don't want to be running around with a slow ass mount in outlands
@Pwnbot01
@Pwnbot01 3 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of on the fence when it comes to Dranei and Belves being available on the pre-patch. On the one hand it makes seamlessly rerolling fun and easy so you can join your guild day 1. On the other, it relieves some of the pressure on Hellfire during launch and will result in many new players having people to level and quest with (provided all the old players don't just ditch the newer players in favour of boosting. When it comes to the economy problem I am an all or nothing guy. Either they let you carry everything with you into TBC or just what you have equipped (and soulbound items). The best (but not perfect) compromise I can think of is launching with additional fresh servers that only allow transfers from servers that launched post TBC. Yeah people want a fix for all the gold that has been generated by bots but at this point you will be hurting innocent players as well as gold buyers if you impose any restrictions. The leveling experience imo is a small price to pay to have a server with a fresh economy, especially when you consider that the gold buyers who have invested 100s if not 1000s of dollars in IRL currency are NOT going to want to just throw all that away. Bots may eventually catch these servers up in terms of inflation, but so long as there is transfer restrictions and mage farming has been nerfed into the ground with the AoE cap. It will take months for them to have any kind of impact.
@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the population concerns in Hellfire are a really good point. Hard to address the gold like you said, and bots and farmers will happen in TBC as well like you mention. So maybe it is best to just not touch it and have 0 cap.
@HYDRAdude
@HYDRAdude 3 жыл бұрын
If they did phasing for Classic then they will 100% do it for TBC.
@Pwnbot01
@Pwnbot01 3 жыл бұрын
@@HYDRAdude Even with Layering, they required 2-4 layers for the highest population realms to handle all the players spread across 6 starting zones. The amount of layers required for hellfire alone will be much much higher than that and the layers required to keep outland playable for the rest of the game will result in all kinds of exploits for farming the important crafting materials. Of course, the common rebuttal to this is that people will be in instances the whole time. But the instance servers are not infallible, if players are forced to do instances with 1200ms because everyone else is clogging up the instance servers there is going to be much complaining and meltdown during launch.
@dimitriuss
@dimitriuss 3 жыл бұрын
can somebody explain to me why nobody doing tBC arena uses nameplates...
@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
Addons for me are real wonky on that server
@Bennyy1020
@Bennyy1020 3 жыл бұрын
its simple just make it fresh no 60s transferred nothing it will only ruin the bc experience imo
@Bennyy1020
@Bennyy1020 3 жыл бұрын
otherwise too many complications will happen you cannot have people transferring over thousands of gold and buying epic flying instantly at 70 it would be utterly retarded economy will be fucked and people will probably quit because of it. the thought of holding a 60 main whos geared and already fully grinded is understandable i just don't think its gonna be healthy for it at all
@Bennyy1020
@Bennyy1020 3 жыл бұрын
theres a massive amount of people with multiple accounts even if you limit the gold transfer you will have people sending toons gold then transferring them over on multiple accounts then flooding their mains
@Bennyy1020
@Bennyy1020 3 жыл бұрын
simply nothing good comes of it only ones greed of wanting their characters because they played a ton of classic and raided heaps fresh would resolve everything it will make a lot of people choose to their start again or quit their way you will have a extreme amount of players regardless of that since tbc> vanilla any day I'm literally playing a tbc server and the class design is much better questing much better everything much better
@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the problem with that though is so many people are so attached to their characters or put so much time into farming gold, so a lot of people would be mad and probably not play. Although I do agree this would be one way to do it
@charalamposkallimanis9609
@charalamposkallimanis9609 3 жыл бұрын
i agree with both Benzerkatv and Ebbnflow. I want a fair start but I am also attached to my character.
@megamanx627
@megamanx627 3 жыл бұрын
As far as faces go I think the best thing to do was counted you something similar what they did the 1st time I think phase one should have. The 1st 3 raids But I do think that people should be able to get Be attunement process done for ssc. I think badges of Justice to drop from kaerazan. As for the gold and materials The biggest problem I see with that they can ever get it right honestly their best bet the only way I could see it's somewhat being even the only possible way if blizzard were to do this. Literally go through every single player and say OK Everyone's getting 10000 gold Whether you earned it or not. And everyone's getting X amount of consumable items already in your bag whether you farmed it or not the reason I say this is. That way everybody is put on a level playing field whether they got there or not that's the only possible way that they can make it somewhat even Because the problem is with gold Like you said he would just gonna stockpile items well if you say OK you can bring in this many items people are just going to get livid and quit the game. If you say you can only bring in 160 at a time well that same thing people are just gonna get mad and quit I know I will be extremely angry. As far as having a pre patch if I'm being honest II can't see them not having one and quite honestly I wish it would be out already I think it would be really good for the game because as a whole. The game at this point is dying Like it or not because of gold farmers in all of those things the economy is completely destroyed so we've got people literally having to pay 800 gold plus 4 consumables just so they can do the boss fights in naxx. And honestly if you're dropping that much gold Per raid night Or even worse per wipe. That's a lot of gold to have to drop on a attempt at maybe Downing a boss at may be getting a item. II just I know I would have liked to have tried it but honestly after looking at that I just go I have no interest I am in the highest rate I get to raiders AQ40 I'll be content with that. Am I opinion I would like to see pre patch come out right after blizzcon as in feb 21. And I completely agree with you I think blood elves and drain I should be available At pre patch because I wanna see people level those tunes up because that's going to be a really big mess. As for over all changes aside from that what I personally would like to see. 1 Dual spec 2 Vengeance and blood for both factions. 3 Blood out and drain I at pre patch obviously and it be sooner. 4 Drums of battle or any profession item that gives you a temporary boost. You no longer have to be that profession to use it. 5 Some attempt at faction balance if it were up to me I would say the less played faction Gets 5X boost to experience and 20% boost to reputation gains. Either that or they buff alliance racial's I have my own specific ideas for that Actually. Give humans all man for themselves Dwarves I would say give them command and increase the critical bonus they get from guns from 1 to 5%. Gnomes I can't really think of anything if I'm being honest baby increasing their Intel bonus from 5 to 10%? Night elves blessing of the forest 5% Bonus to Agility. Derani Strength of the narrow 5% bonus to strength. Those would be my changes again I'm not saying they're perfect but I think at least this would help and make the game overall better.
@Bennyy1020
@Bennyy1020 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry man these are too unnatural of changes I don't think blizzard would ever cater towards faction balance like this these are ideologies taken from private servers
@megamanx627
@megamanx627 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bennyy1020 Yeah most certainly Realistically yeah blizzard would never implement something to that extreme to do something about faction balance. I would say everything up to number 5 could be realistically done oh yeah but number 5 changing Rachel's and what not honestly the most if anything on that list would happen. Anything at all it would be all man's for himself that Would be it and even that's very unlikely. But everything else on that list I could certainly see happening Most of those things are things that came into the game anyway. I mean yeah OK we can get blood elves and drain I at pre patch or dual spec but we did get dual spec in wrath And a lot of people want that a lot will get any pull that a at a World of Warcraft KZfaq are actually does and the votings well speaks for itself. But yes you are correct the actual racial changes oh yeah there's no way in heck they would do that maybe add the very yuelet biggest F if they were going to do anything it would be giving humans all man's for themselves and that pushing it by a lot. But yes I am completely aware number 5 is never actually going to happen I did say things I would like to see I didn't say all of them are realistic.
@Bennyy1020
@Bennyy1020 3 жыл бұрын
I could wish for event based gains for alliance myself but let's be real blizzard are the type of people now days to screw over anyone they can for self gain and money gain they sack their own passionate employees to fit in more sheep as far love and passion goes for this game the die hard fans who bash on the current game and support good changes are the ones who are really the only ones left who care if it wasn't for the immense subscription drop over the past few years till classic came around we wouldn't of even had a announcement for classic they only did it to back them selves up and rig us into the depressing grind we have now shadow lands I quit shadow lands I tried it don't enjoy broken class designs where people one shot each other entirely thru major cooldowns that's not good gameplay I'm currently floating games and playing a tbc server in my down time
@megamanx627
@megamanx627 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bennyy1020 I'm not going to say you're wrong because you're certainly not. The reason I have hope is because well we did get classic wow it took a while and the row certainly mistakes made I will not argue that . But we did get it as far as shadow lines goes I have not played shadowlands I know it's better than bfa But that's not saying much as far as classes I am being broken for me at the very least. I just hate the whole borrowed power aspect your class feels completely broken in half finished until they bring system after system after system. To fill in those gaps as far as one shotting everything I have you're only doing world quest send maybe heroic so Kate find I will agree with you though things are gun out of hand. Me personally I think the game was add its best in wrath of the lich king because All the classes felt finished. There was never a spec if they were in their DPS spec that you were not bringing further damage. If they had a tanks back they could Tank actually tank. Eccentric now I'm not going to say wrath was perfect because it certainly wasn't lfd. Is probably the biggest reason why people say that it was the beginning of the end but I can't help but feel FLFD was not brought in the game during wrath of the lich king would people would have liked that expansion more. Because when people attack that expansion that's literally the 1st thing that they say or at least when I hear. Regardless does that mean it wasn't a wonderful expansion it was in my opinion the best. The rest were very sub par in my opinion then legion came quite honestly the best modern expansion they've ever put out. You are correct about blizzard I want to know that but all the best we can do is talk about what we want changed in the game because we've seen what no changes does. And I'm going to be as often mystic as I can because one thing I have noticed everyone's in the download and the thing is especially the way things are right now we need all the positivity we can get. Because it sure is not going to be on the official World of Warcraft forms to figure something that's been there I can tell you that. Heaven forbid you ever mentioned that some majorly changed and the perfect crafted expansion that's known as the burning crusade is apparently everything was perfect. Yeah OK rows tended person sure was BC good no question but it sure Hank was in perfect. Anyway that's my opinion on the matter All we can do is say the changes we want to see and give suggestions and hope that they happen. Because I would rather sit make my voice heard the best I can and have blizzard tell me now then blizzard not change anything and wonder would have mattered if I had said anything. That's my opinion at least
@Bennyy1020
@Bennyy1020 3 жыл бұрын
@@megamanx627 i definately agree that wrath of the lich king was at a balance point a lot of classes in bc that felt like they needed finer polish got it in wrath classes such as hunter druid i noticed the most really started to shine in wrath both were viable in bc just not as good as other classes druid was funneled into resto druid or playing boomy resto hyrid I've seen feral druids in tbc yeah but haven't gotten to play feral on actual good ping yet since I'm Australian and we have never had the chance to play on good ping come bc since it was released and even then we didn't even have support towards our servers back then like we do now with the burning crusade servers we will get spell batching removed prior and see the game as intended hopefully but ill get to play at 35 ms instead of 260 to 280 like i do on private servers
@padman6074
@padman6074 3 жыл бұрын
About the gold sinks. There's just 2 gold sinks: epic flying and initial item crafts. Once that is crafted you need virtually no gold. So people can bring their 200k gold over from Classic and there's nothing to spend it on. Go ask people playing on the Karazhan server. Mats for everything are super cheap. Gold is useless.
@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, thanks for the info. I felt like there was always a use for gold when I played TBC but maybe its quite as impactful as it is on Classic
@DarthMuse
@DarthMuse 3 жыл бұрын
Wait till all GDKP's start up from raiding than you will see gold matters. that's Blizzard crack down on this stuff it makes the game not fun.
@Young_Bourdain
@Young_Bourdain 3 жыл бұрын
"Some people don't want to play TBC" Yeah, these aren't "people"
@DarthMuse
@DarthMuse 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope they have fresh servers at worst maybe let you transfer your character but u can't bring gold with you like you start from 0 gold because if your allowed to bring the gold that you made from vanilla/classic game will be a mess & honestly I probably bother playing.
@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think so many people want fresh servers that they probably will add some into the existing server list
@ronaldlaplante1117
@ronaldlaplante1117 3 жыл бұрын
Let the players make a choice going to TBC. Go to a server that allows unlimited gold OR go to a server not allowing to take any gold, etc etc.
@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats one way to do it!
@megamanx627
@megamanx627 3 жыл бұрын
Normally I would 100% agree with you However after being on the forms myself and almost feels like it's an entirely different types of people. You suggest any changes whatsoever and so many people just either one call you a troll. Or to say it you're an idiot you don't know what you're talking about they are not democratic they don't like to argue with they just wanna live and their rose tinted world. I one million percent agree we need to be heard changes need to happen I already see a bunch of changes faction balance is a really big 1. But so many people I think really want to recapture that original feel that just can't happen Like it or not it's over 14 years old we know the fights we know how things are going to work and unfortunately that's what's going to happen I haven't tried posting on anywhere else except for KZfaq and the while forms themselves. But I can tell you most people don't either 11 a listen or 3 just think I'm an idiot Or for think I make to one of post because I wanna make arguments for my statements. So anyone who wants to beyond the forms I say this tread carefully because people don't Seem to care about opinions. They just want to write whether they are or not I know dual specs a huge one. Which for the record I am 100% in favor for. But just my word of caution I'm going off my own experiences on the forms
@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you make a good point, I find /r/classicwow a bit better when it comes to discussion but even then things get heated pretty fast. I think people just tend to think there idea is the best and don't keep an open mind to feedback or alternative ideas.
@megamanx627
@megamanx627 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ebbnflow Um I'm not familiar with what you're referring to is that the something like MMO champion? Or are you just talking about a reddit or sub reddit That actually can a funny I never thought I would ever post on the World of Warcraft forms until classic Or more specifically the nightmare A parody of h*** Known as the pvp System
@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
@@megamanx627 yeah the subreddit
@megamanx627
@megamanx627 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ebbnflow OK gotcha
@HYDRAdude
@HYDRAdude 3 жыл бұрын
The vanilla private server crowd is very different from the TBC/wotlk/cata/mop crowd. If you look at the popular TBC private servers all of them had significant deviations from the original TBC. People are going to be more open minded to changes, there isn't that purity meme like there was with vanilla.
@EddieJarnowski
@EddieJarnowski 3 жыл бұрын
I do not want to level a classic character to do tbc. I tried classic and it was the most boring thing i ever did in my life. Tbc looks fun though because alot of the spells and rotations changed for the better.
@ronaldlaplante1117
@ronaldlaplante1117 3 жыл бұрын
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@Ebbnflow
@Ebbnflow 3 жыл бұрын
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