I thought the rain was people clapping after he played

Oh yes just what I've been looking for: *"Lecture about the C trumpet from a New Zealander while rain pours outside ASMR"*

You left out the fact that C trumpets are the standard main horn in American orchestras.

That's got to be a tin roof.

I’m an American master’s student in trumpet/play professionally and I just wanted to weigh in a bit. The C trumpet is played on almost all orchestral pieces in US orchestras. It is used more for that than anything else. We actually play most orchestral parts written for Bb trumpet on C trumpet and transpose. The reason is “tradition”, but I think it’s probably because C has a slightly brighter sound than Bb and cuts through the orchestra a little better. The transposition is often easier, but that is a poor reason to play one instrument over another since a competent US classical trumpet player does his/her homework and is quick at most transpositions. The C trumpet is actually often a poor choice for baroque music. They didn’t have C trumpets or even valves at the time. We typically play that music, like Handel’s Messiah for example, on piccolo trumpet. C and Bb trumpet slot a little differently in terms of pitch and general feel since C trumpets usually have a larger bore than Bb. Most American classical players have a preference between Bb and C but are expected to play both well. I definitely feel slightly more comfortable on C lol. As far as buying a C trumpet goes, personally, I recommend not buying a $150 C trumpet. The only reason you need a C is if you are someone who wants to be a professional or a very solid amateur. Even if you are an American playing in community orchestras, playing your Bb is totally okay. It only becomes an issue when you are an aspiring pro or being paid to play with pros. Then you want a C partly just to match other people. I know Trent said there are no major tuning issues on that C, but normally that isn’t the case. Not even on a nice instrument. C trumpet is a squirrelly beast and requires some alternate fingerings to play in tune. If you want a C trumpet just to have, great. If you want one to play in a community level orchestra, maybe consider working on sounding great on your Bb and use your $150 spending money on something else.

I wish it was raining like that here

“Chineseium” -Trent Hamilton😂

You sound better on a C trumpet than a Bb Trumpet somehow...

Having a C trumpet also has the advantage of transposing to other keys like D, Eb, Bb or A (in these last two case you would like to play with a Bb trumpet but you can still play it with a C one). Also, there is a lot of music that is written for the C trumpet

That's a lot of popcorn

When Adolph Herseth (arguably the greatest symphonic trumpet player in our time and principle of the Chicago Symphony for 53 years!) arrived at Chicago he was already playing a C trumpet when most weren't. The trumpet section starting switching to C trumpets for most playing. In 1955 Bach made six C trumpets for the Chicago symphony. Herseth had first choice, the second trumpet second choice, and so on for four trumpets. The fifth and sixth trumpet were sold and lot to history apparently. These trumpets remain the property of the symphony. Not many years back Bach started manufacturing the "Chicago C Trumpet" patterned after those provided the Chicago Symphony in 1955 (Bach model C180SL229CC). I have one and it is definitely a superb instrument. But they do cost just little more than the Chinese one described in the review.

I love the crumpling paper in the background

Never thought about playing bride of rhe waves on C. I ended my G2 trumpet recital with that piece and it totally kicked my butt.

He can play anything

4:37 You're supposed to press the valves down when you move the valve slides out. When you don't, it creates pressure on the inside of the trumpet, and will damage the horn in the long run.

I've played professionally in the Los Angeles, Hollywood and Orange county areas for about 25 years. My forte', and the most fun was sight reading most gigs, whether combo's, orchestras, big bands, concert bands, etc. Before that, 3 1/2 years lead/ jazz trpt with the U.S. Marine Band when I was 17, and didn't realize it, but I had developed " relative pitch" (in Bb only). I had a gig at a church with an opera diva from Europe and her pianist. The piece was "Let the Bright Seraphim" and I decided to borrow a "C" trpt from Bill Bing, who gave me a quick lesson in baroque trpt. How hard could it be?? However, I quickly discovered at the rehearsal just before the gig, that I couldn't coordinate my ears with the higher pitch of the horn. Knowing that I couldn't transpose that well, especially on the gig, I had to play the thing "mechanically". They mailed me the recording, which sounded better than I thought, but it was the most frustrating gig I've ever done.........and that was the end of the "C" trpt for me!!!

You can put a harmon mute in it and play the oboe parts if you don't have an oboe player, been there, done that. Was kinda fun.

C trumpet the standard trumpet used in professional orchestras and it is instrument most contemporary composers write for actually. Band and Jazz use Bb, but orchestra tends to prefer the C. C tends to sound brighter than the Bb. One of the other reasons that contemporary (modern composers in the late twentieth and twenty-first century) is that trumpet players can choose whatever trumpet they want to play, since it is easiest to transpose from C. I have been given this advice from many different professional (classical) players. They say, "write in C, then if I want, I can use C, Bb, Eb, or even piccolo if I want."

Thank you for clarifying what I have been wanted to find out about C Trumpet. Now you confirmed that C trumpet can do away the transposing challenges we use to face when playing with Concert key players. Now when you mention the issue about blowing C trumpet we will hear a different pitch as we play Bb Trumpet. That is the same as we play Tenor vs Alto and Soprano even we play with the same fingering isn't it ? Thank you for the clarification.

Check out the insect percussion section practising on the roof.. Great sounding snares..

Idea: Do a multitrack recording featuring your C trumpet and at least one of your G bugles. Being separated by a fourth, they should (in theory) blend together in a manner similar to that of B♭ and E♭ instruments.

Yesterday I took delivery of a new Coppergate/Gear4music C trumpet, costing about UK £150 delivered from eBay. Extremely pleased with it both cosmetically and musically. I bought this for the non-transposing orchestral score reason mentioned here.

Love your videos. As a low brass and vocalist musician, I CANNOT wrap my head around trumpet music. Harmonics on a Bb trumpet are Bb, F, Bb, D, F, Ab, Bb. I can't see that as C, G, etc. A few years back I was asked to play Xmas music on Euphonium, but they only had "tenor clef" baritone music. It was impossible for me to play. I saw "C" and pressed the 1st valve... Anyhow, I happened upon your videos by chance, and appreciate everything you do.

I have what I believe is essentially the same horn except in silver from eBay - paid $289 with shipping. Where mine differs is the valves which are superb - fast and buttery smooth. Don't notice the threading issue you mention. I have the same issue with the main tuning slide. What I've done to deal with it is build up a thin coat of solder on both sides of the slide. This requires having some facility with solder. The big issue I ran into is I had to have the main slide in all the way to have it close to in tune. When I checked the mouthpiece gap it was over half an inch. Obviously the gap should be a lot less than that - i.e. the horn was too long. I desoldered the receiver and brace and when I looked at the inside of the receiver there's a stop the leadpipe is supposed to butt up against but when I measured it obviously wasn't coming anywhere near the end of the leadpipe. I went through a tedious process of reaming out the inside of the receiver with 100 grit carbide paper wrapped around the tail of a drill bit that just fit inside, holding it and turning by hand holding the bit with a folded over paper towel and the receiver with a rubber jar opening grip helper. I also drilled the stop inside the receiver to move it back with a drill bit that just fit and catches the stop. Took quite a bit of doing to get the gap down to about 2.5 mm when using a Bach 1 C or Stork Custom Vacchiano. The gap is a tad smaller with a Bobby Shew Lead but that's not a mouthpiece you'd typically use with a C trumpet. Now I have some leeway with the main tuning slide, it's in tune with the slide pulled out.

No, it’s pouring outside. I can’t believe that many people will notice that a random note ‘doesn’t wound right’ on a C trumpet. If i ask you to hum E4 how close will you be if you are not one of those with absolute perfect pitch? Doesn’t sound horrible for $150. Can you fix the loose slide with more grease?

Where do you think is the best place to get a C trumpet from? I would very much lke to get one, well before watching this video.

Sounds like it's raining heavy in New Zealand

thanks for the info here. im a multi-instrumentalist about to purchase a trumpet and this helped me make my decision.

I think that Bb trumpeters usually double on C trumpets in orchestral repertoire. The same goes with Bb and A clarinet and piccolo and concert flute.

C4 or c5 are great notes tbh

Bride of the waves nice touch to the beginning

Now you need a CC tuba! lol

I would love to purchase this! Do you have a link or a recommendation on where I should get one? (I do have a higher budget than 150 of you have any other recommendations)

Gotta love the bride of the waves intro

That's one hell of a rainstorm even by local standards here in Brittylandia...

Does anyone think he should review a cimbasso?

Partly because Bill Frisell plays jazz on a telecaster I believe a c trumpet can deliver the goods playing classical. Some classical, anyways.

Also, Trent, what mouthpiece would you recommend for jazz bass trombone?

How to contact the same person you got it from to buy one as well? If he is not available, who do you recommend for student C trumpet?

Chopin Nocturne in Eb? Very nice.... showing the lack of transposition from concert pitch instruments and sounding good.

When I was young, c's were common, following French practice. My last teacher was thrilled when Edo deWaart asked the trumpets to pick up their German Bflat horns and put the c's away. I always thought the c's were a bit tinny and shrill in comparison to 'real' Bflats.

Question: What happens if I read music in concert pitch treble clef and I pick up a C trumpet and try to play a trumpet player's Bb treble clef as if I'm reading concert pitch treble clef?

The piece he played in beginning is called The Bride of the waves

Still pussing down in NZ! The land of the long white cloud

Paint the tops of the valve buttons in nail polish. Clear is fine if you don't want to see it. The unevenness of brush painting will make it feel a little bit more like mother of pearl.

I think your experience makes the instrument sound much better than it actually is .

When are you going to talk about the E flat alto trombone?

Which c trumpet do u reccomend.. im gonna start doing concert band in an orchastra

8:04 Chopin. Very nice :)

I came for the trumpet, almost left cause of that very heavy rain! 😖

" rain blaring and 9000 decibels" "its raining if you cant tell"

I thought that sound was static so it was confusing me until he said it was raining

I C your point

Trent you are awesome

It rained today here too

I had an idea for a theoretical instrument, and I want to know what you think. Is it the worst idea you've ever heard? How would it sound? My idea is a trumpet with a bore diameter equivalent to the leadpipe on a French Horn.

Woah did you left the camera out in the rain? ahha Great video anyway!

Is the fingering the same as on the B flat trumpet? Thanks

Why are Bb trumpets written in Bb to begin with? Why not write their music in concert pitch like trombones and tubas? (I.E. Open-Bb, 123-B, 13-C, 23-Db, 12-D, 1-Eb etc.)

Hello Trent what's up dude

Trent, I was always thinking that when I saw Melissa Venema or Tine Thing Helseth playing curious looking trumpets I was assuming that higher keyed horns made it easier to hit the high notes. Am I confused about this? If we wish to play Ennio Morricone's work for the Spaghetti Westerns we have to hit D3 on the Bb trumpet. (Concert E) and you run the risk of your brains bleeding out of your ears. Is it easier to hit D3 and E3 on the higher pitched trumpets or no ?

Some C Trumpets have Rotary Valves like a French Horn

I had to get used to the difference in pitch when I switched from clarinet (Bb) to alto saxophone (Eb)

i would love to see one used for a dci solo

If anyone is in need of a good C trumpet for any reasonable purpose, they should NEVER think about buying the trumpet from the same seller you did. So I thought you spent too much time in this video talking about the problems with your $150 horn that no one should really be considering, instead of talking about the difference in quality on better C trumpets (bach, yamaha, monette) and the importance and influence they have in the orchestra.

Do you think it would be ok/better for someone to start off playing trumpet with a C one? Coming from other concert pitch instruments I mean. I fear having to sight transpose would be a skill on itself to learn, just in order to play the instrument seems like unnescessary trouble.

I toyed with the idea of getting a cheap (Gear4music) C trumpet but I actually thought I'd go with something more markedly different, a used low G trumpet. If truth be told, I would probably most want to get a decent quality D trumpet, because Händel. Back in my schooldays our principal trumpeter had a D, and it was quite simply out of this world. Maybe one day....

Loads of background noise! Maybe wait until monsoon season is over to film?

8:05 damn that some good ass stuff 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯

Pros and Conns?

Great job! Keep up the great content.

This is why, in my opinion, all instruments should be written in concert pitch. Tubas come in Bb, C, Eb, and F, but all of the music (excluding British brass bands, because for some reason y'all give your tubas treble clef parts) is written in concert pitch. I suppose one could consider what tuba players do transposing, but we usually just call it learning new fingerings.

Maybe you should rerecord this, you’re sending out important info to people who need to know about c trumpets but the rain is hard

When's that video on the mouthpiece that plays into two trumpets you were talking about?

What is that in the background holy shiz

Hey Trent, I was wondering if there was anywhere I could get some of the sheet music you have used during your solos and multitracks.

have you looked at their "professional" C trumpets? Can be found on ebay. US$685

Good evening, where did you buy it? I am looking for something just like this, a simple, beginner's instrument, but Amazon I think only carries PLASTIC ones in that price range, or "B" trumpets. And real music stores in my area tend to specialize in higher end instruments. Thanks for the video and introduction!

As I understand it the trend among symphony orchestras everywhere is towards the C. Simply because it is more agile, brighter and easier to play. You lack the Bb:s low F sharp (concert E), but it's seldom needed and if it is you just bring along your Bb horn. The last time I saw Haydn's trumpet concerto live the soloist played the fast movements on his C but switched to his Bb for the slow movement, presumeably because he wanted its warmer sound. I doubt if ease of transposition has anything to do with it, the pros all transpose anything from any key to any other, just like the horn players. Often the trumpet parts are written "in F", and the players perform them on any of their many trumpets and nobody cares.

Ooh, rain? Isn't it nearly summer in NZ?

stumbled across this. fwiw, another pro to C is the upper range. Bb must play 1 note higher to reach a concert pitch. this means a concert high C must be played as a high D on a Bb horn. for many players, this is too difficult on a Bb horn, resulting in great strain and a sound that begins to resemble a buzzing bee for the not-so-strong players. this is why most ensembles today perform Copeland's Fanfare on C trumpets, though it was scored originally for Bb horns. the players of old were better than today on average!

Why can't trumpets all be in concert pitch? Why do they have to play a C as a Bb?

You can also play bass clef trombone music an octave higher!

What's the name of the piece played? it sounds very familiar.

I'm looking for a C trumpet exactly in that price range. Do you have any recommendations?

Have you heard of Berkeley Winds Trumpets? They have a monette clone.

Trent do you know how to finger a high E above the staff on a B-flat trumpet? I tried playing it open and it registers as an E-flat. I need to know for my trumpet solo thanks?

Dang that tone at the beginning could cut stone

So it’s in the key of C?

Has any company produced a C trumpet, with an extended main tuning slide, for converting it to Bb?

I play a trumpet in Bb. Practically everyone does though

It’s the fact that I know that it’s a C trumpet and not a Bb trumpet that makes it weird. I mean, if you wouldn’t somehow played what you played at the beginning of the video on the C trumpet, but on a Bb trumpet, I’d be impressed. But, because it’s on a C trumpet, it’s just weird

Seeing this made me curious if there is a brass instrument with interchangeable tuning slides instead of another set of tubing like in double french horn (ex. shorter one for C, longer one for Bb, and a longer curly one for F)

You should do the eb trumpet. they look rad

Your C trumpet shop are all over $1000. Any cheap ones?

Just curious, can you pull out all of the slides to make it play in B natural? I've always wondered if this would work.

Just how hard is it raining?

Is the fingering the same as the B flat trumpet? Someone please answer!

Can you tune a C trumpet down to Bb by pulling the tuning slides almost all the way out? Are the slides long enough to accomplish this?

One thing you forgot to mention is that if one runs into a piece with a lot of sharps you can get rid of 2 with a C trumpet