Sorry, but It's the real or edit? I'm confused 😅

@@lovebabybabe It's real

@@RiceSquad ok thank you

Thank you! #TeamJipyeong

Not surprised the ratings went down that much. I didn't even bother watching the last 4 episodes.

also Injae's character development

@@RiceSquad My girl and I watched the series, we feel nothing when it's dalmi and dosan scenes.

TBH they are the main casts for me. I cried a lot of times on the good boy and halmoni scenes.

Exactly

True

I swear I had the exact same thought while watching the end!

I really dislike Dalmi and thanks god she does not love Hjp. Hjp is too good and too perfect for her. She is blind in love just because that man has the big hands only. Ha ha ha what a big joke.!

I had the exact same thought! Like not evn one single pic. Atleast the pic with grandma. Seriously not evn one pic? That was really disappointing the ending also was disappointing to me. It was like ji pyeong's ending just got wasted. So what now he's just happy because dosan accepted his investment?

Same :((( That scene made me so upset because she wouldn't have made it this far if it wasnt for Ji Pyeong's help. It was kinda depicted as how she was thankful for all the people in her life except JP...

@@TeenaMathias it's like children who fought petty fight then made up in an instant. Really, now writer?

Biggest since So Ji Sub (kang in Wook) vs Jo In Sung (Jung Jae Min) for Ha Ji Won’s heart In something happened in Bali.

Reply 1988 Junghwan is the king of second lead

Sorry... I still think "Cheese in a Trap" reigns supreme. Just typing about it pisses me off!!! 😂🤣 For some reason I couldn't really get into HJP character. He was just too negative for me. However, I totally understand that he was like a genius when it came to investing and his suggestions were right almost all the time.

it’s okay, people have their own taste

School 2015 😭

Lol

Lol

yes

Ryt

Agree!

He was already male lead in three dramas, but I want him to be the male lead in MAJOR dramas.

Love Catch the Ghost

@@DhyntaArimurti me too, but it could be better than it is

He'll def be a main lead in the future after all this second lead syndrome

He was also a main lead in Waikiki 2

and he might win an award this year or next year and definitely Nam Joo Hook won't ... well probably in other drama:)

@@manggong2991 Don't worry for Nam Joo Hyuk won 3 times Best New Actor already and he has plenty of projects in movies and dramas with great actors and actresses.

@@SainyaHokage Nam Joo Hyuk is always crying in this drama. He is Man, but He was crying many times than Dalmi. Lack of character

@@rustydouble6678 When you make the difference between the actor and the character he portrays you call me...

@@rustydouble6678 Ya, something wrong with you. Differentiate between an actor and his character in a drama. And also, what's so wrong with crying?I mean, is it forbidden to cry? Crying won't make him a crybaby either. He's got the right to cry. It's fine you don't like him. But don't bring toxic masculine thoughts here

And the 5 seconds of InJae we got each episode

couldn't agree more lol

Yea they are the starter before big meal.

also the second couple Chul san X Saha honestly better love story than main couple

@@RiceSquad YES

The script is way that off. The storyline got weaker and unconvincing and to some point frustrating. What saved the show was the power acting skills of halmoni and KJP

Nope, Dalmi is in her track. Jipyeong isn't like the character he put in letter. Dalmi said, 'letter Dosan' always agree with her (ep 2 when he went on a date with a guy to a movie), but Jipyeong not. They argue most of the time. Such as about Noongil. He didn't agree about the idea, and want they developed other app that could bring money. Because that's all he care about. 'Letter Dosan' always agree with her, means he always believed in her. Meanwhile, Jipyeong never trust her. Just like when he ran from his office to help Dalmi from bad journalist. Because he didn't believe she can handle it. If the movie guy rejected right away after he disagreed, why Jipyeong acceptable after lots of arguing? While Dosan, he always believed in her. When SamSan Tech fought about shareholders, he said to Dalmi that he chose her to be his CEO, and he wouldn't regret it. He believed in every decision that she made and will give full support. That's why she gave him most the shares, because she believed he will always agree with her. That is one meaning of big hands mean, not just literally his hands are big, but a big support. Jipyeong also insult them, even ridiculed Dalmi's idea about sailing off without a map right in front of her face. He is the one that received the letters, if those letters means so much, he must understand the key word from those letters. Unfortunately, it's real Dosan who understands. Jipyeong has been away from the character he made, while Dosan gets closer to the character of 'letter Dosan'. And one more, Dalmi's dream is to change the world. That would not happen if she is with Jipyeong. Why? Changing the world is so challenging, while Jipyeong never want to take any risk. He became hotshot investor because he only invested to a profitable companies. Companies that have higher chance to succeed. That is his character. His philosophy will not compatible with Dalmi's who is a true enterpreneur. She is a creator, she wants to create something to make a better world. Not just about making money. That would be happened if she works together with someone that understand her. It is Dosan, even to her absurd ideas (such as rock and flower during hackathon or talking dog when they discussed about what product they'll make). He always listened, understand, and then make it into algorithm. This could also be the meaning of big hands, he can make her dream come true. Dalmi-Dosan is a dream team just like Ruth and Martin Ginsburg, they share dreams and build them from zero together. So, don't rush saying the scenario was written badly just because you don't understand the story by skipping scene or because your hero don't get the girl. First or second lead is not about who is most miserable or most adorable. First lead is the one who bring the main message of the story.

@@ummuhuwaida sounds like a simp lol

@EASquak I'm #teamjipyeong too but I'm afraid I won't agree with you in this Ji Pyeong doesn't share his feelings and this is why he lost her like Yong Sil said to him "you are afraid" from the first episode to the last he was portrayed as someone who protects himself with logic and harshness that he can't express himself. What she said is somehow right about him being too realistic but it is his shell caracter, it's not he doesn't believe in sailing without a map it's just that it is too scary for him. Ji pyeong was the one in the letters but after 15 years he changed and realized that too late While Do San is a good match for Dal Mi because even though he didn't believe in what was written he changed to be the "one" in the letters What people miss about the story is that Do San catched an opportunity while Ji pyeong missed it ! This is why we see Do San as an opportunist especially when he starts acting childish and mean while Ha Ji Pyeong is trying to help but once again he is not helping for the sake of others he is helping for Dal Mi and grandma which doesn't make him that selfless The only reason we like Ji Pyeong me included is because he is a real caracter who worked hard to make his own luck and who has insecurities and who doesn't show his vulnerability while the others are just well "drama characters"

@@ummuhuwaida He didn't rush because he doesn't trust her he rushed because he feels protective towards her and that was the moment that broke him the fact that Dal Mi doesn't need his protection anymore. As the person in the letters he said it himself but not for the reasons you said. Money is Ji pyeong first concern because it was the one thing that helped him besides granma he even puts granma above when he says "I wish this debt could be payed with money but it can't". He always disagrees with Dal Mi but she gladly accepts it and argues with him even more and likes to ve nosy with the guy she dated she cut him loose! While with Ha Ji Pyeong she always asks him again and again till the hardest moment she takes his advice over Do San because she knows he's more realistic she says "I want reality not hopes and dreams" You see Do San is good for her but she always needs Ji Pyeong to be "the brakes for the car" like they mentioned in the drama And from a of this I say yeay the story was well written but not for the reasons you mentioned and we still have this void of Dal Mi not getting to know Ji pyeong but it's just because he doesn't open up which was very clear but inside he's still the one from the letters he just resisted it ! He kept them for 15 years... Just a statement: Ji Pyeong caracter gave a message to us Do San didn't !

No I compared Emotions portrayed by Kim seon to the leads

@@fareya955 no one's 'hurting' real actors. Calm down. He's just expressing his opinion

@@fareya955 yeah and there's nothing wrong in criticizing and giving feedback. Just because they're popular or whatever doesn't mean everyone has to sing praises of them duh

Yeah so true

i totally agree. KSH acting is no joke.

worst part of 2020 imo

AMEN 😂😂😂

Exactly!

Yes? Feels like a bad relationship just ended letting me traumatized

Thank God someone said it. Still suffering from Post Drama depression

Jipyeong was just written as such an amazing character, sad to see it go to waste

Dosan was the lead. Period. His character was much better than seonho.

@@aliakhtar_0807 nope, he may be the lead but Ji Pyeong's character is a thousand times greater than the lead. and with Ji Pyeong's character development? make that a million times.

@@mwheart5177 I don't agree with you.

@@aliakhtar_0807 that's ok, I feel the same way.

Jipyeong and the 5 seconds of InJae screen time were the only things that kept me going on

My sentiments exactly and you’ve written exactly what my thoughts were as I continued to watch this drama. If not for HPJ, I would’ve just discarded this drama.

Right! So frustrating!

Yes....it is very frustrating

In this case, incompetence. An "own goal".

Yeahh😭

Exactly. The best end for me for the drama wld be Dalmi rejectiing Do San as she cant think of a reason but continue as business partner while she go to HJP and ends up tgther.

Nah dont think it would go well even if they tried

Nah i dont think it would have go well because the writer was tryna give a reason of the daily problems

@@OnesOut same thought.. i would love it if the ending is as mentioned above, but the writer must pull a “moon lovers” to do it. And no one can pull a moon lovers like the moon lovers writer theirselves. [For context, iu was attracted to the 8th prince in the first couple of epi of moon lovers. But then iu becomes attracted to the 3rd prince. And theres a plot twist at the end of it that makes you cry a river. But the whole plot in that drama makes sense]. the writer of start up has failed to make us move ship from jipyeong to dosan, so if shes pulling a plot twist at the end of the series it would increase the stupidity of the plot significantly. .

It’s okay. Dosan & Dalmi is perfect for each other bc they’re both idiot

I feeellllll you.

I had same problem...why show han ji peyong at first if you guys wanted her to end up with nam do san...at first episode, i was already invested in his story...and i was like he is the main lead...but when got to know at the end of the first eps that the real nam do san is gonna be the main lead...i decided to stop myself from watching it from further heartbreak...i can understand her decision of choosing nam do san very much later after reading and kind of thinking from what i little know, but still i feel that she should have ended with han ji peyong...i also didn't know who was the main lead...so the revelation that han ji peyong is second lead made me angry at writers for introducing me to this character so early....

Yes, if they were going to commit to the love triangle, they should have started with Dosan’s childhood as well. Instead, in later episodes, we only get snippets of Dosan’s childhood as an unambitious child who always let others win. Personally, I would have preferred if they followed all four children - Dalmi, HJP, Injae, and Dosan - and then create two power couples :’))))))

@@vessg221 dalmi don't even start date with any other guy until nam dosan came in his life again and she is so dumb also when han ji pyon hand writing matches with her childhood letters with hanji pyon birthday she still not connect the dots and she still shock when she watch han ji pyon with letters how that dumb girl became ceo and successful on first birthday of han ji pyon she remember today is nam dosan's birthday and they play game together next time when han ji pyon say my birthday and nam dosan birthday is on same date than why dalmi did not ask to han ji pyon that when we play game during your last birthday nobody wishes you also...🙄 why she is so dumb...its han ji pyon who deserve dalmi not dosan... dosan is just cry baby who always cry....

I think writer wanted to break the cliches ..like childhood connection, strict and misunderstood but perfect male lead who is successful and rich , first male lead does not get impress with female lead but later he actually fall in love, knight in shining armour ..all these stereotypes of male lead are fulfilled by ha jinpyeong...writer wanted to make a simp as a male lead ..plus no hate but naam jo hyuk is not that good actor ...

Hahaha 😂🤣 right!!

That line would be one of the best in the history of kdramas, but they ruined it

THIS. The reverse character development bothered me so much whereas hjp was leaps and bounds ahead

@@notvanessa590 you're right it would have been the best.

@@MemeLeeMusic we can't even compare hjp and nds.

And her grandmother being behind all those letters!!! She witnessed SDM being crazy for the letters that she cannot find a bf for a whole 15 yrs and yet grandmother didn't even tried to tell DM the truth.

It's because the writer wrote that way. Curse the writer. Lolololol 😆

Her reaction like that because of what Jipyeong told her. When she asked who wrote the letters, he replied, "Your grandma asked me for a favor, she wanted to give you a friend. So I wrote the letters." This mean, he didn't have any intention or love interest when writing those letters. It's just grandma favour. What else she can asked? It will be different if he said, "At first, grandma asked me to write a letter to you. But then I feel like writing to you is fun and I enjoyed it. So I continue writing afterwards." This means he wrote on his own will. But he can't say this, because it will be definitely a lie. He stopped writing after he moved from grandma's house. So, that's it. Jipyeong told clause number one. So Dalmi thinks that it was lie from beginning, what's more she can say?

@@ummuhuwaida exactly. HJM never cared for her existence for 15 years. It was only when grandma asked for help he cared to intervene. He could've simply met her and said he was the one who wrote those letters under the pseudonym NDS but instead of that he tried finding the real NDS.

@@shijowilson I mean dalmi had told injae that she had found Nam dosan, so if Han goes to her and tells her I'm the one who wrote the letters she won't be able to take him to the party because he Hjp and everyone knows him and injae will think that whatever dalmi said is a lie. So that's why finding nds was important, plus the writer had to find some way of introducing nds, so they gave this stupid reason. Anyone irl would go and say I wrote the letters, but the writer wante to introduce nds so that's why they made jp find nds. Honestly would've been better if they had just jp admit it from the beginning but plot Armour.

Yeah honestly at this point, I just hope they do his character justice

@@RiceSquad I thought they might end him up with In-Jae (elder sister) as a consolation trophy xD

People who think SDM is a deluded girl who used to hang on some letters like her lovelife line depended on them, they have just understood nothing about her and about the drama.

Like you I thought the story was going to revolve around the love letters too. That soon ended for me at the end of episode 1 when that flower petal flew inside of Samsan's office and onto Dosan's head. I was instantly blown away because I just knew HJP was the lead. 🤣😂

Right I think the writer should have collab with the director.. the Director alone could not justify the story with such a strong first love build up character.. the only chance were wasted..

@@SainyaHokage but in some way she did though. she never had a boyfriend nor dated anyone because she waited for dosan of her letters.

@@eiram31She made herself available for dating. She went to movies with guys as in dates. She rejected them afterwards but she gave them their chance. That means she was neither obsessed by Do San from the letters nor waiting for him. She is too realistic for that. She just used the 12 years old Do San of the letters as an excuse or a reference. This is why she fell in love so easily with Do San from SamSan Tech.

Lmao same

Samedt sis.

Same here,!😊

Me too.. For me, the first lead of this story is Han Ji Pyeong.

Same i skipped the last 3 episodes lol

aesthete what a horrible send off for such a brilliant character

@@RiceSquad no need to feel sorry for Han. Only at the end he has learned not to be feeling sorry for himself. Nobody owned him anything. He is much happier without the bitter after taste feeling. In fact his character is not suitable as a mentor as he has killed off so many people’s dreams except Dosan’s. He is only nice because of Dal and her grandma.

@@R4Fun2 come on, Ji Pyeong is an investor. do you really expect him to invest in every business that will be presented to him? Even though he believed it will not succeed? just like he said, in all of the businesses he did not invest with nothing succeed. If those businesses are really good it will succeed without his investment after all he is not the only investor out there. The only reason Samsan tech became successful is because he guided them and helped them. and at the end of all the things he did they didn't even thanked him for that.

He got what he deserves.

@@mwheart5177 Sandbox is a company that nurtures young startups as its aim. It is their job to help. Maybe Hjp should work elsewhere if he has such attitudes not believing and helping people to achieving their dreams. Samsan tech chose him because Dalmi thought he is a close friend of Dosan. Samsan Tech’s success is because of its people and their beliefs. They are other people/investors who can see their talents and values. Hjp got his investment return as he wanted.

Also what's the point of NDS wanting to keep the letter. Its not his in the first place. Also taking care of a plant (which is a gift of someone you like) is way harder than keeping letters and if u forgot or left it in another person house, I don't think it can be considered urs either or didn't care enough to get it back earlier.

@@yugiwinninglex and that's the boy who is so vocal about his feelings but completely forgot about the plant. And i read somewhere someone saying he's an empath, dude, he's so literal and does not believe in metaphors, rainbows. And he wanted to keep the letter when he knows he won already and those are the only things left for jp. And that's an empath for you? Wow!

@@user-zf8bq2fq3j yes he didn't believe in those at first. He only considers it after knowing dalmi and liking dalmi. Also he din know he won until HJP told him.

Same it pissed me off😂

Yes n he was the one who wanted dalmi to forget about the letters and the dosan in it because he know that isnt him yet now that he understand letters, he thinks it was actually for him wants to keep it. What??

Agree with the best lead part but have to speak up for the writer. If the writer really was bad and screwed up, none of us would be hurt this deeply for Good Boy’s sake :(

Same.... I never understood people who had second lead syndrome before but HJP hits me hard

Jipyeong is the god of SLS

@@RiceSquad indeed he is

I swear me too, like I've never had an SLS in my whole life tbh but...after watching this drama the SLS was like a freaking huge slap on my face.

@@lilalila1376 now i feel what sl stans feels HAHAHAHA

Ha ha ha , I will very upset if the girl whom I Iove just because I have a big hand only .I must wonder if she want me to help her family in farm work. Ha ha ha.

thenataliee Exactly what I was thinking when the show ended. She wouldn't have like the real Nam Do San because he was barely like the letters.

People should stop romanticizing those letters... He was 18 yo pretending to be 12 yo. People turning them into love letters is gross. For Dal Mi, it was never about the real Do San (or Ji-Pyeong), she had an idolized version of a man in her head that simply did not exist. That's why she rejected all the guys after a date. The letters only allowed Do San a shot. When she met him, she believed he would be the idolized version she created in her head, when she found out he isn't (and neither was Ji-Pyeong just to be clear), she started to see him for him and falling in love with him. That's why she later told her grandma that if she had to pick between the one from the letters and the one from now, she would pick the one from now. She said she loves his hand because of the time he held her hand. At the end of the show, she said she loves him because it's him. Not because of letters, not because of some illusion she has of him, but simply because it's him.

@@ynat1903 which episode did she said she would choose the one from now? I recall she said she'd choose the one from the letter

@@khenpy Episode 9. I remembered the scene slightly wrong though, I thought she said it directly but she only hinted at it. She talked with her grandma about her question of who she would pick again and said "Could it be that they are two different people?" because at that point she was suspicious about the letters being written by Ji Pyeong and then she looked at Do San and talked about liking him so much it scares her or something along those lines.

Sucks he lost

@@OnesOut He clearly won by a huge margin. He is the people's champion. He must have "lost" out on Dalmi, but he definitely won over the people. Stop being petty.

@@OnesOut i don't think he lost . He won by not having to spend the rest of his life with dalmi ( who is inconsiderate , dumb , likes big hands , ignores violence there's more but it would take an eternity for me to write ).

@@OnesOut in your dreams lmao

Totally agreed! Well said

Exactly, nds was great in the beginning but then quickly became toxic. Dalmi even said that she's still getting used to nds and that she still loves the one from the letters in one of the episodes. She wouldn't have given him a chance if she hadn't thought that he was her childhood love.

That sewing when he's angry thing is absolute bullshit

Also a hypocrite he reprimands injae for lying that she was the swing girl but he himself was lying to dalmi

I'm sorry I am on episode 14 I'm late for this

Then HJP is so dumb for liking Dalmi loll

I totally agree about this!

PERIODDDD

In jae would've been good for HJP 😭

sure, I hope there is start up part 2 about han ji pyeong romance

exactly lmfao. the fact that dosan was STILL that insecure towards JP, and JP himself had to tell him to go after her. wtf??? maybe work on your insecurities first before getting into another relationship. I know they were trying to go for emotional but I couldn’t help but laugh when JP actually uttered those words about “hands beating out memories.” yes, hands beat EIGHTEEN years of memories. ridiculous 😂 the fact that he didn’t go after her in those 15 years apparently doesn’t make him the guy from the letters??? I’m pretty sure he was trying to make something of himself during those years, trying to SURVIVE. even the writers couldn’t justify why DS was DM’s endgame and actually had JP say those words and invalidate the existence of the letters. this writing was soooo infuriating, fr.

@@AvieMV the writer gave up halfway into the drama. she didn't know what direction she wanted to go. she gave ji pyeong everything a male lead is supposed to have (caring, selfless, kind) but end up with nothing vs dosan who's character was suppose to be a cardboard stand-in for ji pyeong and end up with everything. make it make sense writer-nim! Also I will fight tooth and nail at people saying that ji pyeong was horrible with how 'harsh' his words were. He was doing his job. Anyone who's worked in an office setting knows that how Ji Pyeong speaks is considered nice vs all the crap that goes on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Agreed, the writer created a 2nd lead that took the drama by storm. When HJP character rose to prominence, she knew she messed it up big time so whats the next course of action? Throw HJP character under the bus. 1. 3 years gap, total fast forwarding without allowing room for HJP to confee to Dalmi or show some effort. By the time he wasmt to confess, dosan cockblock by returning. 2. The fact that HJP have to point blank tell dosan abt DM true feelings. Fuckin hell, the most stupidest writing ive seen in my 7 years of watching kdrama. 3. Is making HJP verbally concede defeat by saying he is not the one in the letters and if he was, he would have looked for her at that 15 years. And notice dm didnt have much lines to say, which shows, okay i am here to listen that you are officially going to give up on me.

@@juhee589 she was definitely trying to make dosan relatable/down to earth/warm and supportive guy but oops it took a wrong turn. Could have at least try to save dosan by giving him actual character development after that 3yr break but no he is still insecure, has low self esteem and runs away from his problems while the other characters solve it for him.

@@skywalker73690 more like a truck with spiked wheels.

I skipped too many part. I just watch HJP's part

@@lovebabybabe nicee

@@aldwinh9418 i did it to save my heart 🤭😂

How did it end ??

yeah lol i thought i was the only one who skipped dalmi & dosan's part because it's too unbearable to watch

How can we get a Jipyeong x InJae sequel?

YESSS

@@RiceSquad they are the best character in whole series, their rating would be the best of tye day if they were the main leads

Cannot agreed more. I root In Jae and Ji Pyeong, both character grew a lot during show as personal and professional.

@@RiceSquad only ju gyeong for me 🥺 wish they had another drama with moon ga young Idk if in jae would work with ji pyeong tbh

Me!

Me

me still go for Han Ji Pyeong 🥰🥰🥰

Ji pyeong team all the way until end

Me..

I'm also didn't feel anything

When they kissed

Yeah me too

Same 🤣🤣🤣

DoDal's first kiss kind of bothered me as to how good they were for a bunch of no-relationship-since-birth. it also reminded me how shitty my first kiss was when they had it on a rooftop while i got it in a dark alleyway. lmaooo 😭😭😭

Yeah, straight to the point 🙏

Blame the script writer XD

Im just sad how Start up ended honestly, IM SO DISAPPOINTED. :((

hello seon ho was really awesome he is my favourite but there is another guy who can potray Mr Han he is Kim Soo Hyun

@@alyzzaesme7518 I still miss that drama and Han Jipyeong😢😢

😭

Off course. Ji pyeong character to strong

Yeah and thats a fact. Jipyeong is still better because he's a good boy and his scenes gives a powerful impact everytime its sad or happy

That's not true... Dosam learn so much more than Jp in the time jump, you can see he change a lot and after that he embodies the role of the "real lead"

Yes. Because they loved him before because NJH is a great actor. But tbh in this drama Jipyeong character is more admirable. And Seonho played it really well.

EXACTLY

do san isn't the only one who lied doe😶

@@henzz14 but he's the only one who got benefitted from it. There's no way in hell dalmi would even look twice at him were it not for the letters or the lies

you speak the truth

Do San has a nice family, a great cousin, true friends and colleagues, a pretty and persevering girlfriend he marries. I don't think he will complain compared to Ji Pyeong. Ji Pyeong has an AI who tells him the weather every morning. He is so great of course. Maybe you should consider the question storywise and not fanwise.

Ay dont biased too much just enjoy

exactly!!!

@@SainyaHokage all that you mentioned reaffirm all the reasons why jipyeong is better than dosan lol. Dosan was born with everything and he still was envious, obsessive, has anger issues and was constantly pitying himself for no reason. He had everything anyone could wish for and he still had the audacity to say that he had nothing at all. Jipyeong had nothing and he still managed to grow nicely and to stand for himself. No self pity, no blaming others for his shortcomings, he knew how to APOLOGIZE (dosan who), he was so so selfless, he puts everyone’s happiness before his own and he gave more than he took. All that came from someone that truly had nothing all his life. So yes, Jipyeong is better in all aspects.

Yes!

You disgust me for badmouthing and not appreciating the acting

@@OnesOut the thing is you think it is a biased opinion because namdosan was played by NYJ, but on the perspective of those people who don't know any of the lead stars, Han Jipyeong rises without a single doubt than any of the character introduced. imagine reading this in a book, I don't think you will still root for a Namdosan. we are talking about the character here and not about not your faves who played their role amazingly.

@@miramedilo962 Yeah everyone has a didn't opinion with each character

I honestly don't understand where was this chemistry between JP and DM.... A lot of chemistry from his side, absolutely none from hers. She was never interested in him beyond mentorship/friendship.

So true

Oh how manipulative he is. I can’t forget how he told Dalmi that him and Jipyeong were close friends so she wouldn’t talk to Jipyeong. He wanted her to believe they were friends so Dalmi would tell everything she wanted to tell Jipyeong to him first so she didn’t have to interact with JP. How can anyone excuse that behavior??? That’s not cute.

@@swana4960 ikr??? Remember when he was supposed to keep grandma’s secret ( that she was losing his vision) ? Did you notice how he took advantage of the situation? He told Dalmi because he wanted her to know he’s developing Noongil because of her grandma. He wanted to win her heart. And he didn’t tell Ji Pyeong but at the exact moment he needed his help, he brought it up because he knew how important grandma was to Ji Pyeong. And the fact that he eavesdrops on Dalmi’s conversations without her knowing.. omg! He stalked her while she was drunk, listened to her conversation with that lady and that’s how he found out how she really feels and then the next day, he knew exactly what to say to comfort her!!! Idk that’s not romantic. He also eavesdrops on her conversation with In Jae in ep 15 which was followed by that stupid elevator scene. Him bragging about how marvelous it was to sail off without a map blah blah blah. He learns about what Dalmi wants to hear and later he tells her the exact thing to impress her even if he doesn’t believe in it himself. Every single time... he’s just a manipulative simp. I have lost count of his questionable behaviors tbh. He had no morals.

Definitly the writer did it.

I also stopped watching....frustrated with the twist of the story

Yes, they did hahaha

I dont think really yall just took it too biased he was tryna give out a message but yall took it in too much

True😂

Yeah nothing makes sense, the characters are all hollow and boring besides Injae and Jipyeong

yes, more like Seo Dummy

Spare yourself the disappointment. Or if you do, don't even bother analysing it because it's no longer as deep as it seemed. Also, as much as we know dramas aren't always supposed to mirror reality, this one just doesn't make sense. Lol

Most of the funding came from brands that have Suzy and NJH as ambassadors and they came from the same agency too... i think that's where the illogical writing came from, after all the drama needs money to be produced and everyone is still a paid worker. this is just an assumption, but i mean that's the only logical reason some scriptwriter as big as PHR will do this... her past works was completely spotless and amazing. everyone was deeply in love with it. Dream High, I Hear Your Voice, While You Were Sleeping, and Pinocchio!? 👏 i like both NJH and KSH as an actor, but no one can deny that the storyline was crafted in such a way that was so forced to make us drop the second lead and root for NDS. it's just a shame that Start Up which had so much potential in the start ended in such an abrupt way in which nothing makes sense.

@@RiceSquad and Grandma ofcourse

sadly the end was to close, because they married and work together, etc so the writer of start up really make us angry af

Love does not need reason and it is not first come best served. Nam Dosan is not a negative man and does not take no for answer just like the female lead’s dad. ✌️

better,? says who? hahaha

Seo Dal Mi & Suzy don't think so xp

I agree he was the main and best characters for Start Up, I feel bad for Do San but Mr Han is the main lead

Why people choose JiPyeong rather than Dosan? Now I understand. Why do few people sympathize with Dosan. Because most of the other kdrama have the main character who is almost perfect or has a sad past like JiPyeong. But there is one very interesting fact Dosan. He is a representative of most of the youth in the real world. Not having a fixed stance, cowardice, not yet successful, and insecure. The reason I like Dosan is not because he is better than JiPyeong or bcs the actors. 100% I'm sure Jipyong is better than Dosan. JiPyoeng is the one everyone wants. Handsome rich firm protective and nearly perfect. But Dosan is the majority of us. Always want to be proud of our parents and the people we love. But quite the opposite. "DISAPPOINTING". Dosan is the representative character of the StartUp. StartUp is not just a title (startup). StartUp is a character. And that character is in Dosan. Who is starting a better life. Dosan who is struggling. Dosan who is pioneering. When I saw dosan, I seemed to see myself, who was struggling to taste the sweet and bitter life of the age towards adulthood, feeling insecure when seeing friends is more successful who is insecure when meeting our crush. We have to learn from the character of Dosan. THAT THE REALITY IS LIKE THIS. Still struggling. We need Dosan to motivate ourselves. I tihnk that message from writer want to give to audience. Why can't Jipyeong play the lead? Because the jipyoeng here has been successful. if the main character is JiPyeong, the title is not a startup. A realistic woman would definitely choose Jipyoeng, but in reality a man who is almost perfect like Jipyeong is almost non-existent in this world. Jipyeong Is A SandBox for Dalmi, someone who protects dalmi from getting hurt. Most people definitely choose jipyoeng for dalmi rather than dosan. But Dosan is what Dalmi needs. Dosan is Dalmi's wing. Someone who encourages Dalmi to reach her best. Someone who doesn't criticize her but believes that dalmi is more than enough to fly without a doubt.

Happened with me... stopped watching it...

agree omg 😭 her character development could've been better

Maybe she got mesmerized by his kiss

true, it's sad really. Jp just ends up alone

He is not the most perfect anything, he is really mean and talks in a very aggressive way, he treats people really bad. Jp dosent deserve Dalmi bc he never makes a move to be with her

@@mjcbk lmao, "He is really mean"

@@mjcbk Alright. Let me set this this straight. Of course Ji Pyeong isn’t perfect. No one is actually. But we can’t deny that his character is very likeable as shown from the facts on this video. Also for him being mean, he has a reason to do so. He isn’t actually “really mean”. It’s just that he does not shy away from from giving honest comments and criticism which is very much needed since he’s a prospective investor dealing with business start-ups. But he reflected on his past attitude and changed his ways eventually. Now, you have a point on why didn’t Ji Pyeong made a move on Dalmi during the 3 years that Dosan is away. Was he too busy? Is he hesitant? Who knows. We can blame the writers for not explaining why the hell Ji Pyeong didn’t make a move on Dalmi during that time. But I’m pretty sure if he did, it would’ve been game over and Team Ji Pyeong wins. But that isn’t the case.

@@frncsjm but even in the series he aknowels that he is mean.... I get that is he's job, but you can be honest and not being mean xd In the last episode he is prove wrong when he said that he never support a company that would never be profitable, and he was really mean with the guys the first time they met. He is a great character but NOT perfect in any shape o form. And it was his fault that Dalmi fell in live with Dosam, Jp had years to approach dalmi, but when dosam had the chance he went all in. In the real world that's the person who wins, the one that takes risks and does everything with his heart (like dosam did in the series) (My mother tongue is spanish; sorry for the bad grammar)

True. No development at all and the writer is expecting the viewers to like him " just because"..

@@kyriepark5581 just because he has... nice hands 🤡

Nahhh Dosan character showed no development at all after 3 years but he grew up overnight, from ep15 to ep16. It wowded me, it the most sarcastic way

You probably watched the drama blindfolded or you are just simply too biased

@@videomester99 yup forget to take the blindfold off till now

Dalmi was asked again in ep 15 why does she like Nam Do-San and she said that she doesn't need a reason why she likes him. Ngl I hated that line.

I thought he’d end up with big sister too! They were closer in age and experience.

Absolutely! From a writing perspective it just makes sense that she would end up with Jipyeong. What’s the point of setting up this story for Jipyeong and then completely ignoring his story

Thats not true, a first love doesn't mean anything. You can see why she falls for dosam through the series, you can't see that that process the other way around

@@RiceSquad 😊👊☺ I know, right?

@@mjcbk I rly can't see y she will likes NDS. Even SDM can't think of a reason to like/choose him

Lol, the do san in the letters never existed in the first place. It's hilarious how you want a non-existent person to be with dal mi

Team Good Boy Forever

Jipyeong is the best boy

Yea I agree. In terms of storyline, WYWS is so much better.

Ugh a lot of disliked WYWS because it was too similar feeling to I can hear your voice.

@@Taradays Really? I thought it did really well both in Korea and internationally

Their should've been a balance regarding the guys. One is obviously so much better, has good history with the girl, and is extremely charming and selfless. If only they made DO San nearly half as good people wouldn't have minded Dalmis decision

I think its the directors fault as well.. if they had focus the story to start up- where both the so called first lead and the girl had a spark,connection and understanding.. which I think the writer gave enough.. then it would have been less tragic.. 😅 still tragic -because who would not want han ji peong? I stop watching after they grow up and had learn that han ji peong is not joo hyuk.. because I knew right then that if thats not the case its all messed up hehehe

Exactly! It had such great potential. Sad to see it just waste away to obscurity

Will I guess when they hired the actors they all knew what the roles are. Who is lead & who is second lead. I do think the writers lost it from episode 8.

IKR

jess0099 the series should have ended on episode 9. Episode 9 has an 8.2 on Imdb then it went all downhill eventually with a 5 for episode 16.

@The Asian Theory The narrative that the people wants heavily reflects in their values, they want love to have a reason like how people got mad on 500 days of summer when the female left without reason and fall in love with someone else at first sight. THE REASON GROWS AS THE STORY PROGRESSES. It really awesome how the main character who is blindly in love sees much clearer than the audience themselves, failing to see the theme "sailing off blind" which is a major component of the story. And was foreshadowed since the first episode by dal-mi and her father gaving up their jobs. The values that Dal-mi and Han ji-pyeong have do not align and will be a problem if they ever got together.

u wasted a great drama ,, sad for u lmfao

@@user-qc8id8if2p it’s my opinion that it was a wasted plot. if u think it’s a good drama, thats ur own opinion which is completely fine

@@user-qc8id8if2p Good drama. Great actors. Plot was good. But the love interest plot was horrible. I think a lot of the comments here are having conflictions with reality. In reality, Han would have gotten the girl. In any reality, regardless of wealth, he wins. But somehow, some way, the plot ignored the letters and gave Do San Dal Mi. Which is nuts.

Funny thing is....nobody is choosing Nam Do San no matter how attractive Nam Joo Hyuk is because Ji Pyeong is simply too well written and developed as a character.

oh sorry! Jipyeong is best boy

Han ji pyeong had better chemistry with Won in jae than main leads. They only 2 min interaction in last episode and had better chemistry than main leads. Watch some interviews when they were together they has much more chemistry in real life. But writer never wanted this because they would have overshadowed the main leads.

I mean I get how dosan is somewhat toxic and overprotective, but I feel like it was completely justified, considering how ji pyeong was kind of an asshole to dosan. to say that his personality was completely trash tho is kinda stupid. Despite his family pressuring him into becoming a CEO, he was accepting when dalmi became CEO, he protected dalmi from injae’s psycho dad, and ultimately fell in a horrible situation where the only way he could preserve his relationship and love for dalmi was to lie. tbh, feel like dosan and ji pyeong should be with different people. dosan shouldn’t be in the position in the first place, and ji pyeong had THREE years to really make a move on dalmi and he ended up just waited for dosan to come back to try and ruin the love triangle again

also, dalmi really pissed me off for some reason. didn’t dosan literally create an app for her grandma, protect her from injaes dad, gave her CEO, and had good intentions in trying to protect her, and the only good thing she had to say ab him were his big hands???