The case for having kids | Wajahat Ali

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5 жыл бұрын

The global fertility rate, or the number of children per woman, has halved over the last 50 years. What will having fewer babies mean for the future of humanity? In this funny, eye-opening talk, journalist (and self-described exhausted dad) Wajahat Ali examines how the current trend could lead to unexpected problems -- and shares why he believes we need to make it easier for people to have babies. "For those who can and choose to, may you pass on this beautiful thing called life with kindness, generosity, decency and love," he says.
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@EricaEthington
@EricaEthington 5 жыл бұрын
He didn't really convince me that a declining birth rate is a bad thing.
@brianlemaire4221
@brianlemaire4221 5 жыл бұрын
A declining birthrate of human beings will be a boon to wildlife. The 6th extinction is being inflicted on wildlife due to the increase of our human population.
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 5 жыл бұрын
@@brianlemaire4221 but if we slow down, we might not get to the point of being able to literally create life or bring it back from any period. Humans are known to develop stuff
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 5 жыл бұрын
@Jerry Silk but time is limited. We cannot know when a disaster may occur and humans are by far not the only possible cause of those. There are still endless areas uninhabited by humans, I wouldn't exactly say we're out of farmland. Reducing humanity's size 5 times would reduce its performance by more than 5 times as we'd have far less humans to keep the roads and planes running
@kansasthunderman1
@kansasthunderman1 5 жыл бұрын
@Jerry Silk Back in the 1960s, the U.S. population was only 1/2 of what it is today, but the quality of life was a lot better back then. So why continue growing the population if it's going to lead to more socio-economic and environmental problems?
@waifu_png_pl6854
@waifu_png_pl6854 5 жыл бұрын
@Jerry Silk people just think that quantity > quality
@PrakashSingh-qi3yo
@PrakashSingh-qi3yo 5 жыл бұрын
Come to India.. you will see many mothers having 8 to 10 children with zero future security😂😂😂
@Ananaspomidorka
@Ananaspomidorka 5 жыл бұрын
People did that 99,99% times in history of mankind.
@kansasthunderman1
@kansasthunderman1 5 жыл бұрын
India is a Third World country too. The bad thing is the U.S. is bringing in 1000s of Indians on H1-B visas. Pretty soon the U.S. will look just like India.
@PrakashSingh-qi3yo
@PrakashSingh-qi3yo 5 жыл бұрын
@@kansasthunderman1 Not agree. US is superpower and will keep their position. Those who are entering US is talented and highly educated people.
@kansasthunderman1
@kansasthunderman1 5 жыл бұрын
@@PrakashSingh-qi3yo I know fpr a fact that many Indian engineers are using fake diplomas to get jobs in the tech industry. Furthermore, U.S. businesses have siphoned off huge amounts of $$$ from the schools and the taxpayers have nothing to show for all the money that has been spent on public education. Get corruption out of the schools and maybe the U.S. could produce a lot of talented and educated people.
@PrakashSingh-qi3yo
@PrakashSingh-qi3yo 5 жыл бұрын
@@kansasthunderman1 ok i can understand ur feeling, also it is your government who issues H1B visa. Tell ur government reduce or limit these acts..afterall US is for American first..americans should be first priority.
@xzxjessxzx
@xzxjessxzx 5 жыл бұрын
Some of us just aren't interested in having children. I don't want to lose the one life I have. I'm not saying kids don't bring many people joy, but a lot of us don't want to have someone need us 24/7. It's very overwhelming and unappealing for some of us. Maybe life will be a bit tough financially for the future generations, but it's all speculation, and I'm not going to have a child i don't want because of that. It's not fair on me, or the child. The point of life for me is enjoying myself, spending time with my partner and friends, learning, travelling, experiencing my hobbies etc. I think that's a pretty amazing reason to be alive. I don't need or want kids and that's just my personal choice. 😁
@zjebauo
@zjebauo 5 жыл бұрын
And probably you also think that your parents should've done and thought the same as you do now. Well enjoy your life.
@xzxjessxzx
@xzxjessxzx 5 жыл бұрын
@@zjebauo In what part of my comment did I say I think everyone should feel the same way about reproducing? It's personal choice, you absolute potato. 😂
@zjebauo
@zjebauo 5 жыл бұрын
​@@xzxjessxzx I've only mentioned your parents, not everyone. The point is that I don't think this kind of attitude is a matter of genes (or maybe it is, you can tell). It looks like you've just jumped on the same attitude bandwagon as most of internet living millenials disliking this video. Your comment sounds like you would like to avoid hardships and responsibility by not having kids and to keep your easy-going and unshackled life. I find this insulting that in small scale my children would've to work for the people like you because you don't have your own children and your "personal" decisions are making their life harder than necessary because there may be not enough civilized people to work for us. Pick and carry your part of load or live in a jungle where you would be a burden only for the nature. Someone has to produce so you can consume during your retirement. Even if you save the money there may be not enough people to keep up with workload.
@xzxjessxzx
@xzxjessxzx 5 жыл бұрын
​@@zjebauo Your "point" about my parents was irrelevant to my comment. It would have been their choice to have me, and if they chose not to raise children that's perfectly fine with me. I would never force a woman to give birth to a child she didn't want (including my own mother). I haven't jumped on any band wagon 😂 Everyone around me wants kids and I'm the 'weird' one for being happy as I am... I'm 34, and I'm simply not maternal. I have never had the desire to raise children, even as a small child I knew I didn't want them. It's bazaar to even suggest someone not liking children only feels that way because they want to look cool on the internet. Of course i don't want the hardships of having a baby I don't want. For me, having a child would be an extremely negative experience. There is nothing wrong with not wanting children, just like there is nothing wrong with wanting children. I will not have a child just to please the masses. Should I have children I don't want? Is that a good life for a child... to live with a parent who resents them? I find it insulting you seem to think the only reason a woman exists is to be a birthing machine. How do we even know your kids will be useful members of the workforce, and not at home scrounging off the government? What about stay at home mums that only produce daughters? They aren't part of the workforce and are only taking from the system if we use your logic. Should we shame them for not being useful members of the workforce? No, of course not, because everyone contributes in their own way. I am a full time worker in the highest tax bracket. I am working towards being self funded as a retiree and do not mooch off the government. I pay my way and contribute to the economy. Get off your high horse. Having pushed a kid out of your vag doesn't make you better than anyone else you arrogant douche lol.
@zjebauo
@zjebauo 5 жыл бұрын
​@@xzxjessxzx Yup, you're a weird one. 30+ and you still don't feel like having a baby. I know few such girls who don't see themselves as mothers and I really don't get that. The only way I explain this are side effects of birth control pills or current no-baby culture made by idots who think there is too many people already. These are only my guesses. Anyway after giving larger context it doesn't sound like your one of those idiots and thats a relief. I also hope that you didn't just trap yourself in that thought you wouldn't be a good parent. Like, do you really think you would do worse job than child abusers? So far I don't think so (I assume you didn't lie). Also it would be bad if you would end up without close relationships as time goes by.
@davec8473
@davec8473 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible that he could still do this talk after such terrible news. I hope things get better for him and his family.
@justanotherpersonxo
@justanotherpersonxo 5 жыл бұрын
What happened?
@user-vn7ce5ig1z
@user-vn7ce5ig1z 5 жыл бұрын
Well stage-IV is usually terminal, so the prognosis isn't great.
@moreaccounts18
@moreaccounts18 4 жыл бұрын
@finalfantasy8911 well said
@jhonklan3794
@jhonklan3794 3 жыл бұрын
​@finalfantasy8911 Or a life of suffering could still ultimately be worth it.
@jhonklan3794
@jhonklan3794 3 жыл бұрын
@finalfantasy8911 Y'all are resentful, nihilistic, and deeply troubled but newsflash not everyone is like you. Some people believe life is worth it in spite of its sufferings.
@miabecerra2611
@miabecerra2611 5 жыл бұрын
His argument "think about how good this idea would be if it was a good idea". Having children would be easy if it was made easy. This argument still doesn't say why having kids is a GOOD thing.
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was meant to be easy, in fact, it was meant to be the hardest thing to do, yet the benefit is the greatest. His argument was "help the economy, they bring endless joy and I don't regret it despite the suffering that's to come. Invest in the future or everyone's screwed eventually"
@miabecerra2611
@miabecerra2611 5 жыл бұрын
@@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 "bring endless joy" a personal and individual opinion, not based in facts that only appeals to those who already enjoy children. "I don't regret it" not really an argument, just a statement that again only appeals to those who already enjoy children. "Help the economy" this is is the only 'fact' based argument, but the declining birth rate only hurts the economy if the countries who are fighting immigration continue this fight, and if we want to continue producing at the same level as we already are (which would be dangerous given that we are already WAY overproducing). The only actual gain he could point to would be to fuel social security, and although this is taxed based now that doesn't mean in the future it necessarily must be funded by taxes. So. No real arguments in this video. Or at least not any that are very good.
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 5 жыл бұрын
@@miabecerra2611 more humans, more stuff, not just tables but content and technology and those supporting the aging population. Do you really strive for a world where there are no taxes and you'll die when you can't support yourself unless someone pities you?
@moreaccounts18
@moreaccounts18 4 жыл бұрын
@@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 more people means more COMPITITION as well and more stress when finding a job. Also, why tf should we force people into existance for other peoples sake knowing all the horrible risks
@CatastrophicDisease
@CatastrophicDisease 2 жыл бұрын
The argument is that maintaining replacement birth rates is vital for maintaining the economy and social fabric. Societies should thus make it easier for young families to have children, to make sure the population does not decline. It's pretty simple and clear-cut, quite frankly.
@andresvillegasmedina9277
@andresvillegasmedina9277 3 жыл бұрын
I'm debating on getting a vasectomy and after watching 6 other videos I ended up here, actually convinced me to go through. I was looking for a genuine good reason to have kids, not a selfish reason. Just realized there is not a single good reason to put another being through this excruciating experience we call life.
@mugumyapaultheafricannomad9488
@mugumyapaultheafricannomad9488 3 жыл бұрын
Respect to you. I'm in your position as well. No reason at all
@vze21gwa
@vze21gwa 2 жыл бұрын
All children are born for selfish reasons. The question is whether those selfish reasons are good or bad.
@liyaxo4560
@liyaxo4560 2 жыл бұрын
@@vze21gwa same here
@stephaniesmith6643
@stephaniesmith6643 2 жыл бұрын
@andres villegas medina: Wow! NOTHING is more important than family. Also, propagation of the species is essential. Why else do you think Mother Nature made sure most women have a strong maternal drive & perceive babies as the cutest…..especially when they’re your own? Men usually do too. But it should be done for the right reasons. That is to help produce & nurture the next generation. It’s up to you. Blessings!
@nimtei5609
@nimtei5609 2 жыл бұрын
facts, you have a brain, all the best and power to you son
@witchflowers6942
@witchflowers6942 5 жыл бұрын
I’m here. I haven’t had a particularly awful life, and my parents are loving though not the best, they’re certainly doing their best. Still every day a wake up and want to die. I’m miserable and can’t stand the world I was forced into. If I were never born I’d never have to suffer. If I were never born I’d never have to hurt people by being self destructive, anorexic and suicidal. Don’t have children. If there’s even a 1% chance your child may suffer, isn’t it amoral to bring them here?
@shotglassanhero
@shotglassanhero 3 жыл бұрын
Your mistake is to assume that you had nothing to do with your birth. Let me tell you that you were the evil gleam in your father's eye well before you were conceived or separated from your mother's womb. What did you forget? Who are you? You think you were only born once, and that you'll die alone? And also, you cannot avoid suffering within life; it is a necessity to living. You think that suffering from mental issues has brought people down, but all you are doing is merely living your life out the way you want to and the way the environment/perceived "other" has molded you. Bringing a child would clearly bring a lot of potential suffering for them and for you. But that is overshadowing the possible joy and love it could create too. We are poor judges, so maybe not having kids is the better path for you--that being said it's not a convincing argument for others.
@skerich7056
@skerich7056 3 жыл бұрын
You are not alone in that
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 3 жыл бұрын
@Peter Kile shotlglassanhero is a religious fanatic lunatic.
@nickyetti93
@nickyetti93 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@JB-kx9bx
@JB-kx9bx 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the antinatalist page on reddit. Super insightful.
@bluceree7312
@bluceree7312 5 жыл бұрын
I don't want kids because I don't want kids. Never wanted them and people said you'll change your mind. I didn't. I don't want the responsibility and I do enjoy my freedom. I never had that feeling that I want a legacy, or that I will enjoy to play with kids, or that I will miss them, when they miss me, or that I'll enjoy watching them grow, or that they'll take care of me when I get old, or that it's a deeper meaning in life. Never. When I see a child I have zero feeling about them. If they misbehave, I just move away. On the other hand when I see a nice car, or a photo of a nice village somewhere, or a beach or mountains, I really want to travel there and experience it. If there someone in need I enjoy helping them. When I see a child it does not register anything for me, mostly I just have been avoiding them all my life.
@me6780
@me6780 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@maribelramirez4534
@maribelramirez4534 3 жыл бұрын
Same for me
@sabrinax4575
@sabrinax4575 3 жыл бұрын
It surprises me how blatantly people hate children
@me6780
@me6780 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabrinax4575 for me personally is not the case at all! If I don’t feel to become a mom, it does not mean I hate children. I think you miss the point here… Why having a child and make his life miserable only because society says I should be a mom? Who wants to have children - I wish from the heart they become parents, but for the right reasons, and not from external pressure. everybody should have his own choices and we should respect them, even if they don’t fit with ours.
@sabrinax4575
@sabrinax4575 3 жыл бұрын
@@me6780 u can definitely not want children but you absolutely have to respect them.
@parulgupta788
@parulgupta788 5 жыл бұрын
We need less babies, not more. How can we bring more people into the world filled with pollution, crime and uncertainty? Terribly unconvincing arguments.
@ridace
@ridace 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 27 years old, a member of the dreaded Millennial Generation. I live in the United States in a large urban city. I have a Master's Degree from an elite university. Nevertheless, I can barely afford necessities due to school debt. I can't imagine being able to have a child right now (even though I'd want to).
@hdb80
@hdb80 5 жыл бұрын
@LOCAL COPE Are you serious? I have both. I'll leave my trade behind and I'll stick with all 3 of my degrees, thank you.
@bobmiller3627
@bobmiller3627 5 жыл бұрын
Nick Nichiporuk, You may not want to hear this buddy, but it needs to be said to someone in your predicament; America needs socialism if it's going to survive. 40+ years of conservative/neoliberal policies have left this country with stagnant wages and an absolute mountain of problems that we don't know if we're going to be able to solve yet. Countries around the world with socialist and social democratic policies make it EXTREMELY easy and safe for their citizens to have children, and be able to comfortably cover their cost of living as well. Something to think about friend :)
@bobmiller3627
@bobmiller3627 5 жыл бұрын
@LOCAL COPE I think you need to learn how to read Mr Trump supporter. "Countries around the world with socialist and social democratic policies," that's not the same as what you thought I said.
@bobmiller3627
@bobmiller3627 5 жыл бұрын
@LOCAL COPE Look up the terms "Mixed Economy" and "State-Capitalism." Now, I must bid you adieu.
@hdb80
@hdb80 5 жыл бұрын
@LOCAL COPE Hahahaha, I'm an architect. So no, I won't be leaving a food service job, ever. I will, however, design the prison you're surely destined to end up in.
@deepakshadeslayer
@deepakshadeslayer 5 жыл бұрын
So basically have kids to save economy ? Why not just invest in technology to propagate economy ? Automation seems to anyway rule the roost
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 5 жыл бұрын
no, humans save economy, and babies are needed for humans to exist. Actually, humans save everything if raised well. If you say that, I may as well counter it with: "sperm or atoms save economy"
@MaikuBoy1
@MaikuBoy1 5 жыл бұрын
You did not listen to the end what the real reason is.
@deepakshadeslayer
@deepakshadeslayer 5 жыл бұрын
@@MaikuBoy1 I did but I believe humans are a launchpad for a far more intelligent being. Maybe AI or some form of bio-human. Having babies is our way of holding onto our identity more than anything else (just like leaving behind a legacy). That's just my point of view though.
@penelopepurr
@penelopepurr 5 жыл бұрын
@@deepakshadeslayer You don't leave a legacy... you die, people morn, and within 100 years nobody will know (or care) that you were here.
@penelopepurr
@penelopepurr 5 жыл бұрын
Automation is NOT good for the economy... it is great for employers, but cuts jobs, so is very bad for the majority of people.
@alexseioo610
@alexseioo610 5 жыл бұрын
I start worrying about underpopulation when the global population drops below 500 million.
@chesminsky
@chesminsky 5 жыл бұрын
Only cities are overpopulated. Go to the countryside . Nobody lives there. Planet can hold more people. Just don’t produce plastic and crappy stuff and ecology will be fine.
@brianlemaire4221
@brianlemaire4221 5 жыл бұрын
@@chesminsky Great. We will all leave the cities and build houses on a half acre out in the suburbs. Nice well-fertilized large grass lawns. Maybe a couple of full-size SUV's to drive around in.
@chesminsky
@chesminsky 5 жыл бұрын
Brian Lemaire was that sarcasm? Sounds like an actually good idea)
@brianlemaire4221
@brianlemaire4221 5 жыл бұрын
@@chesminsky It's a good idea if you want to greatly increase our impact on the environment and diminish other species of wildlife.
@witchflowers6942
@witchflowers6942 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, I’ll be cheering. Zero sounds like a good number to me.
@Dachi654
@Dachi654 5 жыл бұрын
How can the world's problems be solved with overpopulation, the world and its nations need to decrease their populations until they find a healthy balance. Economic growth should not rely on increasing populations we have technology to increase output with fewer people needed. I would much rather see self sustainable nations who can survive on their own resources.
@elinope4745
@elinope4745 5 жыл бұрын
Who can survive on their own resources, I really couldn't agree with you more here. Global interdependence has become a scourge on the freedom and happiness of people.
@Ananaspomidorka
@Ananaspomidorka 5 жыл бұрын
Survive on your own resources? Hmm, I really doubt that. Imagine you need to forget about cellphones because almost all of rare metals are in China? Yeah, and it also includes fruits, bananas, no seafood for inland countries, etc. Trade? we back to square 1.
@elinope4745
@elinope4745 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ananaspomidorka how many cell phones are sitting in dumps right now in the US? lets face it, older cell phones have even more rare earth metals than new ones. Time to start recycling.
@Ananaspomidorka
@Ananaspomidorka 5 жыл бұрын
@@elinope4745 Ha! Very good point I haven't though about megatons of thrash we already made. I just don't believe we will or can pull back from globalization.
@Dachi654
@Dachi654 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ananaspomidorka I think surviving on your own resources is a minimum I would like to see happen, trading on top of that is of course welcome and good for global relations. My main concern with being self sustainable is that 3rd world countries trade food to 1st world countries because we can not sustain our own populations while those countries have starving people in them. I think being able to sustain your own population would help stop this happen but not on its own of course.
@ilseesli
@ilseesli 5 жыл бұрын
I would love some more explanation on what actually happen if the population shrinks. I need more details and specific consequences other than just labour shortages (doesn't sound so scary to me)
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 5 жыл бұрын
less humans, less anime, games, movies, though with after a greater portion of humanity works on inventing and creating content instead of doing anything that can be automated, the amount of this content might not reduce, no clue really
@Arachne-qw1vr
@Arachne-qw1vr 5 жыл бұрын
Agreeeeeed! Where are those estimates? What about campaigns teaching people to sacrifice their comforts in order to prop up the economy? if it's socially accepted then momentum might begin. A plan for a stable economy instead of a growth machine?
@ilseesli
@ilseesli 5 жыл бұрын
@@Arachne-qw1vr Yesss!
@krismiss2337
@krismiss2337 5 жыл бұрын
The rich have less slaves with equals less money for them
@nicholas1451
@nicholas1451 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing happens. Labour shortages will easily be overcome by technology.
@Itsem32
@Itsem32 5 жыл бұрын
Y’all can have as many kids as you want. I personally will not have children. I don’t have enough funds to take care of a baby. I can barely take care of myself.
@19BenZ57
@19BenZ57 3 жыл бұрын
then men should will have as many as women. except %10, only idiots have kids period. humans: cheap labor cheaper than modern ROBOTS! All Too Many(%90 people) don't think and can't " THINK CRITICALLY "! from PERSIA ArmeniA Israel with Passion
@JJmeep
@JJmeep 5 жыл бұрын
Most children aren’t that different from each other IQ wise if provided with the same resources and motivations from a young age. Just adopt and have a single kid, machines will replace our labor shortage in a couple years anyway and constant growth isn’t sustainable
@jssfrk161
@jssfrk161 5 жыл бұрын
JJ meep wow “just” adopt. It’s not that easy mate!
@JJmeep
@JJmeep 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah you’re right, unfortunately it’s more expensive and rigorous than having your own kid, my bad
@Lemonducky86
@Lemonducky86 5 жыл бұрын
I think the reasons for not having kids far outweigh the reasons for, both in number and importance. Plus, I don't buy his biological feelings "argument" and I don't think our economies should be based on constant growth in the first place.
@user-vn7ce5ig1z
@user-vn7ce5ig1z 5 жыл бұрын
"Breed"? No, definitely not. Couples shouldn't have half a dozen children.
@q7wasp7
@q7wasp7 5 жыл бұрын
@Amy Coulson - - - 6-02-2019 - - - It's called Trump and the 13 families who form the world kleptocracy that want to have an ongoing elite of their own gene pool and a slave population to give them what they want.
@Billy-rr7re
@Billy-rr7re 3 жыл бұрын
using another person as a mean to making yourself feel better about your otherwise meaningless existence is not a selfless act
@Eloign
@Eloign 3 жыл бұрын
Except that it gives them life.
@Billy-rr7re
@Billy-rr7re 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eloign so what? giving your so called life that no one is asking for, give you the right to use another human being as if it was a piece of furniture for your amusement, for your own benefit? you are doing no one a favor by bringing them here,there is no one asking to come here. you cannot say it is only your choice when there is going to be someone else involved and or affected by your decision because you are not making a teddy bear, you are creating a sentient being that did not ask you to be born. you don't have the right to impose life on someone else without consent.
@larshoneytoast1190
@larshoneytoast1190 5 жыл бұрын
Only reason to have kids is in case you need someone to change your diaper when you become old and incontinent. Everyone I know personally who has kids is also on antidepressants. And often talks of how stressful having to care for children is. But if you ask them directly how having kids has affected their life. They go on about how happy it has made them! How much meaning it has given their life! How they wouldn’t change a thing! Just before popping their Prozac. This is called Cognitive Dissonance
@Ananaspomidorka
@Ananaspomidorka 5 жыл бұрын
May be they'd kill themselves if not for children?
@thelordsatanx9535
@thelordsatanx9535 5 жыл бұрын
I would go as far as to say that natalism requires "living a lie". There's no way to hold such a disjointed and sacrificial philosophy while being a sane agent. Even if the DNA molecule itself wasn't a malignant mutant of biology which invented torture, the universe itself is mediocre at best, Earth has been a billion year horror show of carnage, humanity is a swirling mass of megalomaniacal primates that are existentially braindead, parenting is a procreational Ponzi scheme, and brains themselves are just tools for scheming the selfish gene into fruition. Oh yeah, and love is impossible, it's a meta-emotion and a belief system based on crude addiction and desire. Watch these apes behave when their "love" doesn't go according to plan.
@kansasthunderman1
@kansasthunderman1 5 жыл бұрын
Remember the Andrea Yates case? She had post partum depression and was on antidepressants. Then she drown her 5 kids in a tub. So much for having big families.
@waifu_png_pl6854
@waifu_png_pl6854 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ananaspomidorka you dont see it. they dont go on antidepressants and have kids. they go on antidepressants BECAUSE they have kids
@vapourkl5324
@vapourkl5324 Жыл бұрын
@@kansasthunderman1 Christopher Lee Watts, Grant Amato,Anthony Todt and the list goes on and on ! having kids does wonders.
@Maoilios12
@Maoilios12 2 жыл бұрын
When so many people struggle to find gainful (let alone meaningful) employment, I can't say I agree. With so much of the economy consisting of low-paid jobs, what guarantee is there that more average wage earners will make enough to pay for the older generations' pensions?
@vapourkl5324
@vapourkl5324 Жыл бұрын
Then the solution is to have more kids ! According to this TED speaker. more kids will solve the world's problem.
@shiritzhaki5333
@shiritzhaki5333 4 жыл бұрын
Make new people to work for you is what im hearing
@aromalaa7813
@aromalaa7813 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@kaemcolm5455
@kaemcolm5455 3 жыл бұрын
Bam!!!!!!! Well said!!!!
@r.vincenta.9678
@r.vincenta.9678 3 жыл бұрын
No you missed the mark by a light-year. So let me help you: Make new people to help humanity. For those who can and choose to. To bring life with kindness, generosity, decency, and love.
@Malandirix
@Malandirix 5 жыл бұрын
Having kids is not a personal choice. You are making a choice for your child who will indeed become an actual person. Please consider if you want to force them into this world.
@frankg6981
@frankg6981 5 жыл бұрын
Malandirix “force” some people are really ungrateful. Life is hard but that’s a really weak thing to say. Don’t want to have kids then don’t.
@Malandirix
@Malandirix 5 жыл бұрын
@@frankg6981 It's not about ungratefulness. I didn't mean to imply that. But you can't really argue with using "force". It's simply the correct word for it.
@randyrhoadsrocks12
@randyrhoadsrocks12 5 жыл бұрын
@@frankg6981 call the phrasing ungrateful all you want. I was forced to exist. Now that I do, I have interest in continuing to do so. However, if I was in a hypothetical situation where I had a choice, I, without a doubt, would prefer to have never existed.
@AvanToor
@AvanToor 5 жыл бұрын
I think the best thing I can do for my kids in the 21st century is to not bring them into this mess. Yes, "force" is the right word. I feel that if I'd been given the choice at conception, I would have declined. I'm generally considered ingrateful and selfish for wanting to leave this existence. We are NOT the salt of the earth.
@elljay3453
@elljay3453 5 жыл бұрын
Even if you're prepared to raise children in a positive environment that won't give them a personality disorder, their lives can still be tragic if they're born with severe autism, retardation, debilitating diseases, or whatever. Or for that matter, something terrible could happen otherwise outside the parents' control that would ruin them. Expecting gratitude here is like dropping gold ingots out of a helicopter into a park, and thinking everyone there should be grateful, even those hit in the head and left brain damaged.
@KhanIbrahimib
@KhanIbrahimib 5 жыл бұрын
Human existence is not some sort of NECESSITY for anything, the only purpose we are serving by existing is making our own selves happy, so if not having kids makes someone happier than having them, it doesn't make sense to ask them to have one for any other purpose, Coz there simply isn't one.
@skm460
@skm460 4 жыл бұрын
couldnt agree more
@Apeiron99
@Apeiron99 4 жыл бұрын
Your nihilism will lead to your own suffering and the suffering of those around you
@jbone9900
@jbone9900 Жыл бұрын
​@@Apeiron99 no its called happiness not being a sheep
@0ffspringfan
@0ffspringfan 5 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching the video. Could someone summarize what exactly the case for having kids was? Surely there must have been something I missed, because American workforce or my own pension don't feel like arguments at all.
@0ffspringfan
@0ffspringfan 5 жыл бұрын
Nice standing ovation in the end, by the way.
@leosch6706
@leosch6706 5 жыл бұрын
With the current trents in developed countries our entire social and political system will collapse.
@Mom_sBasement
@Mom_sBasement 5 жыл бұрын
So that Islam can dominate the world?
@annnee6818
@annnee6818 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't make one that I can see except that society would collapse
@carlosdgutierrez6570
@carlosdgutierrez6570 Жыл бұрын
@@Mom_sBasement well be death by then so who cares?
@derickasamani5730
@derickasamani5730 5 жыл бұрын
My student loans alone prohibits me from getting married how much more babies
@Sebak222
@Sebak222 5 жыл бұрын
basic argument for having babies is not complete. Does not address alternatives, does not address overpopulation (brush it under the rug) the economic arguments are stale are incomplete.
@nicklockk
@nicklockk 5 жыл бұрын
Overpopulation really isnt a problem, especially not in the west
@brianlemaire4221
@brianlemaire4221 5 жыл бұрын
@@nicklockk Except for our effect on wildlife.
@Sebak222
@Sebak222 5 жыл бұрын
@@nicklockk It is a a major problem - It is a major problem on many levels. Just looking at one aspect of it is access resources essential to sustain human life (for this example, water) and our ability to continue producing harvesting them in a sustainable manner. Aquifers in many locations are nearly drained, and once they are drained, that's kind of it for those locations' lifestyles: food production, etc. in these areas. Just looking at one part of the U.S, the ogallala aquifer is estimated to be drained by 2026, the Colorado river supplies most of the agricultural and potable water for tens of millions of people in the southwest, and yet water essentially no longer reaches the gulf, and yet populations are continuing to grow in these locations without some deity or ta'veren creating more fresh water out of nothing. Our desalination capabilities are still incredibly inefficient and insufficient to maintain human life in many locations, and yet populations keep growing. That's just one tiny aspect of an incredibly complicated system that is already overtaxed by overpopulation in the 'west'. As for differentiating between west and not west - we all live on the same bloody planet, it's all interconnected, and it's stupid to try and pretend that imaginary political lines rule human (migration when water runs out, for example) or geological forces.
@fb150185
@fb150185 5 жыл бұрын
Overpopulation ia not a real problem they way it's portrayed. If that were the case we would have died of overpopulation long ago. Read a little Malthus and you'd see we have the same void alarmism with overpopulation for a long time. It is important to develop tech and policies to address utilisation of resources sure but not due to overpopulation.
@fb150185
@fb150185 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sebak222 many of the things tou mention are not related to overpopulation but of poor policies tech and infrasteucture in the utilisation of resources. The exact same things have been said for centuries. This does not mean it is not a concern, but it is a challage we can tackle with tech and development. Certainly not a reson to not have children. Yet this talk was really bad, he never made a point for having children and if anyone uses the excuse of overpopulation or climate change not to have children, that's aa hypocrite aa can be.
@madmindofmitch
@madmindofmitch 2 жыл бұрын
It's a little disappointing that this video doesn't really get into any of the counterarguments to the ethical problems which ground antinatalism. The situation is nuanced and he does a fine enough job explaining "ok, if we don't have a young working generation then there is less taxable income and that's bad for society", and that's a fair and valid point. But a much harder question to answer is whether it is ethically just to bring someone into this world simply so that they can be a working individual with a taxable income without ever having chosen to have been born in the first place. Or, like, "you would never choose to put your child in a situation where they would die, right?" The obvious is reply is "no, i would not put my child in a situation where they would die". Except everybody's child will die because we all die. That's the sort of thing that I wish this video addressed even in part but it doesn't really even consider it. The talk works under the assumption that having kids is a good thing but if only for the financial problems, free time, etc.maybe that's why someone would not want to have kids, not because they might have an ethical issue with the practice in the first place. Oh and random other comment as a white guy who taught english in japan for two years- "japan has not been able to replace their population through immigration" - well that is one way to phrase it but sadly it is because their immigration policies are ridiculously xenophobic. There are plenty of indonesian, filipino. etc people who want to immigrate there. Sad truth is that they just don't like foreigners.
@theimpulsivevulcan5346
@theimpulsivevulcan5346 2 жыл бұрын
people die, kids will eventually die, therefore if dying is bad don't have kids
@missionlightsgrp9187
@missionlightsgrp9187 11 ай бұрын
On top of that, there's no painless death and some would spend a considerable number of years being tortured by pain...
@cheyenne1820
@cheyenne1820 5 жыл бұрын
Labor shortages aren't a problem when all the jobs are being replaced by machines anyway
@tirobo
@tirobo 5 жыл бұрын
that's not true.
@badvermin
@badvermin 5 жыл бұрын
@@tirobo It used to take 40% of the population to create the food for the country, now it takes less than 2%, gains in productivity have not been passed on to the general populace.
@Bridge2110
@Bridge2110 5 жыл бұрын
@@badvermin And yet we haven't got that 38% unemployed. They moved on to easier and better work.
@badvermin
@badvermin 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bridge2110 They fact that they ARE working shows the system is broken. Do we need busywork? Gains in productivity should give the general populace more freedom, instead the monetary gains are going to the top 0.0001%.
@Bridge2110
@Bridge2110 5 жыл бұрын
@@badvermin People have a better standard of living now than ever before. People don't do busywork.You complain about money going to the top, but then you think they hire people to just do busywork? Which is it? They aren't going to be wasting money by making people do pointless tasks. People working just means people aren't stealing stuff from other people to support themselves. It's a good thing.
@tristanrodenhauser5267
@tristanrodenhauser5267 3 жыл бұрын
The heart of his argument is capitalism and to support our social safety net programs. He jumps from the US to Asia to Europe. The US has very limited social well fare programs, all policies are encouraging individualism and personal responsibility to save for retirement. People can’t afford children. To support children so they are educated and to be competitive in this world is expensive. The lack of wider policies supporting health care, child care, family care is significantly hurting folks in the US.
@christins.1481
@christins.1481 2 жыл бұрын
I've known people with children who were not struggling with money. The job laid off their workers, they did get another job but pays considerably less. Go to our beloved government for assistance and are told "no" because they own two vehicles. They say to sale one vehicle. It's two vehicles and 6 family members with another on the way. Getting laid off is temporary. It's not permanent. The system was originally created exactly for that. Not for people who couldn't afford children in the first place and decided to have children anyway. People like me have no children because we will ALWAYS be in debt. We would have lost the house with no food from getting in debt with medical Bills and my husband couldn't work. No help. Years later my husband's job shutdown. Still no help. And it's expected of us to have children. We can barely tread water without children. So lets just toss kids into the miss and hope a parent doesn't become ill or loses their job cause we'll really be screwed then and no help.
@kay63
@kay63 2 жыл бұрын
Idk how, but maybe we can try out a sharing economy based on reciprocity. I'm paraphrasing here. Original.peoples of this country had it right. It's based on relationships and connection....something we sorely need.
@joys1725
@joys1725 5 жыл бұрын
The world is already filled with too many unhappy & disappointed children whose basic needs , both emotionally and financially, have become ridiculously hard to fulfil. What's all the fuss about anyway?! Why does it have to be a "must" for women/ parents to give birth to a child/ to have children in the first place? Or is it merely out of a fleeting desire to play with cute little creatures , who will be neglected or left to their own devices as soon as their shine and lustre fades away?! Or perhaps no one wants to die alone?! Or live in solitude? And to everyone out there who overgeneralize women deciding not to have children as self-centred, selfish beings, please analyze more clearly and think more carefully about who is doing what out of selfishness here. And, hey, look, here is the rub. The world you have been trying to save has gone to pot. If you are so desperate to save the Earth, go colonize Mars then. Good luck!
@ahkwyatt8174
@ahkwyatt8174 2 жыл бұрын
Who hurt you?
@DavidSanchez-vx4bv
@DavidSanchez-vx4bv 5 жыл бұрын
People think, special young people, that in developed country there are less and less babies because is ver expensive to have one, with all the A+ in his/her standard of living... but they are just partially right... It's a culture product, woman moving from one role to another, expanding their capabilities, men fighting with the new roles and values. In the past, lot of parents and grandparents prayed to live more just to see their Sons and Grandsons grow... and now, that the average expectancy life is above 70-80-90 less and less people want to have Sons... wow, what ironic is life... Having a kid or kids IS a personal choice of each one of the couple AND based on a careful economic analysis becomes in one of the most importan decision in our life... but NO ONE is forced to have babies... is you don't want, you shouldn't have babies.. if you want, but can't give them a good life, then wait until you can... you want and can give then a good life, then HAVE the babies you want and take care of them, not thinking as if they are going to pay you or take care of you in the future, they don't own you anything!
@MaxCWebster22
@MaxCWebster22 2 жыл бұрын
Owe*
@theimpulsivevulcan5346
@theimpulsivevulcan5346 2 жыл бұрын
This is wrong. The answer is a comprehensive strategy involving both immigration, and adoption. People are starving already. Kids need homes. People are destitute. I really can't disagree with this strongly enough. TED needs to get its act together.
@samtatenumber1
@samtatenumber1 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, if we have all the resources to feed 20 billion people, why are there 4 billion people starving currently
@sc6830
@sc6830 5 жыл бұрын
Some people seem to forget the incredible moral awareness creating a conscious being means. It's literally not just "have a kid bc I'm getting old" is "having a kid bc j genuinely think i can raise them up to become decent human beings"
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 5 жыл бұрын
when raised by decent human beings, I find such an outcome likely. If the odds of him being decent exceed 50%, then it is a benefit to humanity. "Life is a risk"
@moreaccounts18
@moreaccounts18 4 жыл бұрын
@@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 dumbass, you forget to take into account birth defects, poverty, trauma, addiction, and so on Having a child especially in todays world is wrong unless the child somehow is gurenteed not to go through the above problems and more
@moreaccounts18
@moreaccounts18 4 жыл бұрын
@@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 I was trying to find a retarded comment and thats yours
@anjelynngaming2391
@anjelynngaming2391 2 жыл бұрын
j genuinely think i can raise them up to become decent human beings" That is the stupidest reason to have kids
@TeKeyaKrystal
@TeKeyaKrystal 2 жыл бұрын
!!! THIS. i want to have a contributing member of society .. i don't want to put another f*cked up person into the world
@EC-jd9ej
@EC-jd9ej 2 жыл бұрын
Some "terrible" circumstances that will happen if the population drops: Countries may be forced to provide healthcare and benefits to citizens. Jobs will have to pay people liveable wages. More houses will be available. Less forests will be torn down. There will be less climate change.
@Nemisis025
@Nemisis025 2 жыл бұрын
BuT mUh WoRkFoRcE
@jmw-be6fl
@jmw-be6fl 2 жыл бұрын
We shouldn't, A decline in birthrate is natural with industrialization. The whole point of technology is to reduce the need for labor power. We can automate our factories,management,ect and increase our productivity substantially without the need for as many babies. The goal should be lift Africa and the Middle East out of poverty and increase technological development. We need intensive growth, not extensive. Its creepy really, people treat children like there things to control and use for happiness. If you want kids, want kids to love them, and don't force it on others its creepy, its none of your concern where I put my sperm.
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 5 жыл бұрын
most redundant case ever. we have over 7 billion people on this planet and that number grows by the second. next this guy will tell me the sahara needs more sand in it
@matale66
@matale66 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, still adopting...
@user-hh2is9kg9j
@user-hh2is9kg9j 5 жыл бұрын
sad very sad your genes will die
@matale66
@matale66 5 жыл бұрын
​@@user-hh2is9kg9j Thank god im not narcissistic and that doesnt concern me. But yeah, sad...
@user-hh2is9kg9j
@user-hh2is9kg9j 5 жыл бұрын
@@matale66 it is the whole point of evolution. to preserve your genes. actually one might argue that it is the meaning of life.
@mysteepulcine2510
@mysteepulcine2510 5 жыл бұрын
Me too. Meeting my third in 2 weeks! He's 14.
@leonmulder4889
@leonmulder4889 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-hh2is9kg9j the point of life is to be a slave to meaningless replicating DNA.
@Jen-qd7sc
@Jen-qd7sc 5 жыл бұрын
Easy for him to say because he is a quality guy. Many many guys are selfish and abandon their families. As in my case, my ex husband insists on driving a BMW AND a Mercedes and would not sell one to save money and our family. Instead he kicks me and our daughter out of the house and leaves me a single mom. How can I have more kids?! I have one full time with no help and now limited funds and no dating prospects as a single mom with a 2 year old. My story is not rare. Men are the issue. Exchange all the low quality men for high quality men and I’ll agree couples should have more kids.
@metta8
@metta8 5 жыл бұрын
We can deal with a decreasing population. We need to. I don't think we should encourage people to have more children. The idea that we have to have an ever-increasing population is unsustainable. Don't forget that we have AI that will replace many of todays jobs.
@InnocentCatfaces
@InnocentCatfaces 5 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. His pro's for more children sadly don't outweigh the con's. And like you said, as technology moves on, more and more jobs could be replaced, removing the problem of having too few people working those jobs (or atleast dimming it out a bit). Loved his presentation though, he's great at it!
@user-hh2is9kg9j
@user-hh2is9kg9j 5 жыл бұрын
it depends in the west and far east they should have more kids. in Africa and India maybe they should use more condoms
@InnocentCatfaces
@InnocentCatfaces 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-hh2is9kg9j It's the people in the West which have the largest footprints though, by far. The people in Africa and even Indians have relatively small footprints. Their populations are also predicted to lower due to more people reaching adulthood (see Kurzgesagt on overpopulation)
@RantKid
@RantKid 5 жыл бұрын
it's not about ever-increasing you dolt.
@RoseyMorearty
@RoseyMorearty 5 жыл бұрын
Foster and adopt
@AtheistEve
@AtheistEve 5 жыл бұрын
And sponsor.
@MrRedstardude
@MrRedstardude 2 жыл бұрын
In the 1960s/70s, it was possible to buy a house and have a family on one working class income. Until that can happen again, the best thing is to have lowered birth rates and population decline.
@blafonovision4342
@blafonovision4342 2 жыл бұрын
For many of us, life is a curse to be endured.
@alexandragrace8164
@alexandragrace8164 5 жыл бұрын
as other commenters have said, many millennials are doing the responsible thing and refraining from having children when they cannot afford to give them the time, attention, and resources they need. We are saddled with student debt, unaffordable healthcare, increasingly precarious work. What if your child has a disability, how will you pay for their care? I live in Australia where even though we have "universal health" and a national disability insurance scheme, these systems are so flawed that I shudder to think how I would afford to care for my child if they were sick or needed disability accommodations.
@yasminister2011
@yasminister2011 Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. I’m also in Australia. I’m 40 now so safe to say I won’t be having them. Do You mind if I asked if you’ve changed your mind since you posted this? And how old you are? 🇦🇺 ❤
@goldyblob
@goldyblob 5 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad the comment section is people against his argument. What a destructive future he proposes...
@tarico4436
@tarico4436 5 жыл бұрын
I read about fifty comments, and none mention the number one concern: the huge chance that you have a kid or a few kids, then have to pay child support for a couple decades, all the while she doesn't let you see your kids. We, both men and women, need 50/50 child custody laws NOW. Women don't like all these divorces either. It ain't kewl. Many of us are going our own way until these laws change.
@DY-td3ku
@DY-td3ku 5 жыл бұрын
The likes are 4x the dislikes it’s just the people who are against his view are more vocal about it
@Mohammed8778
@Mohammed8778 5 жыл бұрын
> lets kill 3/4 of humanity so we can continue polluting our environments ok thats less destructive than being encouraged to have kids i guess
@emuriddle9364
@emuriddle9364 3 жыл бұрын
@@DY-td3ku I agree.
@SidVirtuous
@SidVirtuous 5 жыл бұрын
I like how he lists reasons people aren't having kids at the beginning and doesn't list the most obvious one: We can't fucking afford it. I've turned down relationships in the past few years with people who I know want kids in the future. If neither of us have paved our future yet, how do we expect to start a new road? Why put more financial stress on yourself, your partner, and the life you're bringing into the world? I've also talked to some people who have had kids when they were in dyer financial situations. Their kids often have the same financial stress as their parents and often lured into things like gang violence, risky behavior, and depression or anxiety disorders. If I have a child, I want what is best for them. The best way to ensure that is to be in a good place financially. If that sounds selfish to you, then please find a new definition of the word selfish.
@SidVirtuous
@SidVirtuous Жыл бұрын
@@andrewchung83 he's quick to dismiss it though. Medicare relief, paid parental leave, all of those things only help. Lots of people struggle to get by without worrying about a babysitter, doctors appointments, toys for learning, etc. But after your comment, I think the biggest thing is if your child ends up with some mental disability and ties you in for life. Seriously, I wrote that comment 3 years ago before COVID was even a thing. Surely you can find a more recent relevant video
@diap727
@diap727 5 жыл бұрын
Weak argument coz automation will replace most forms of labor
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998
@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 5 жыл бұрын
we still need people to create that automation
@kansasthunderman1
@kansasthunderman1 5 жыл бұрын
@@zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 People in the tech business can create more automation then the population can create workers.
@mohammedmohsen6556
@mohammedmohsen6556 5 жыл бұрын
@@kansasthunderman1 True , also it's not an easy field to work in it not for everyone
@Infinitexz
@Infinitexz 5 жыл бұрын
Technology is not there yet. Go watch the talk by labor economist David Autor.
@kansasthunderman1
@kansasthunderman1 5 жыл бұрын
@@Infinitexz Avtually, the're a lot more jobs that can be automated, but the unions won;t allow it to happen.
@mvrii.a
@mvrii.a 5 жыл бұрын
Population decrease cannot be so bad for us than increase. We have a lot of information that our earth has not enough water, food, land dry up. Everything is insanely expensive. Not everyone can afford to buy coffee in cafe to save money for apartment. Where is good job, good money, good health and normal life - there is always babies
@emmanuelimumolen8660
@emmanuelimumolen8660 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's very difficult to increase the population than to decrease it.
@ratatataraxia
@ratatataraxia 5 жыл бұрын
The case to have kids: 13 min My case not to have kids: 13 hours
@MrAykut23
@MrAykut23 5 жыл бұрын
It was just a case fitted to TED talk times
@badvermin
@badvermin 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrAykut23 Reread the title of this video.
@michaelpisciarino5348
@michaelpisciarino5348 5 жыл бұрын
0:33 Fewer Babies, Lower Birthrates 1:21 Lets Have Earth And Humanity 2:22 It’s A Personal Choice. 2:50 Overpopulation might become underpopulations. Think about Social Security 3:44 🇨🇳 Remember China’s _One Child Policy_ ? 4:40 Japan 🇯🇵 5:58 Europe 7:26 Why? 8:02 Financial Concerns 9:22 “Lets make it easier to have babies” 10:17 Scared 11:44 No regrets. Life is a risk 12:10 Babies are always our future
@disruptivetimes8738
@disruptivetimes8738 5 жыл бұрын
The United Nations speak about birthrates since the dawn of time and what affects it the most. And guess what, the most effective way to reduce birth rates is..... educating woman. Now, what is the most effective way to increase birth rates again?....... its a scooby-doo mystery.
@pasukankarakreareo2611
@pasukankarakreareo2611 5 жыл бұрын
Actually as a women, I think that to be parent need suport and strong mentality and knowlarge. It's very difficult live in that environment to have a child. They should take care kids and also find money to live.
@ryanjones7681
@ryanjones7681 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot the child cancer
@cla99009
@cla99009 5 жыл бұрын
@@disruptivetimes8738 It's not about "educating" women. It's about hiding from both men and women (but mostly women) the true purpose of life itself. You can be educated with a grounded understanding of why God put you on this earth & still have a family. My mom has Bachelors degree in Physical Therapy & chose to have 8 children instead of a career. Fertility isn't about "education," it's about faith and purpose.
@disruptivetimes8738
@disruptivetimes8738 5 жыл бұрын
@@cla99009 So your mom wasted a lot of (other peoples) money and (other peoples) time on a degree she never used. Sounds like a good investment to me. And btw, do you not believe what the biggest organisation on earth practiced since the last 60 years? Ask some poor 3rd world coutries how educating woman worked out for them. This kind of medicine works wonders, completely without any guy in the sky.
@austinhk2829
@austinhk2829 4 жыл бұрын
How about taking care of all those in the orphanage ......
@DmbyouYDgoBack2Europ
@DmbyouYDgoBack2Europ 5 жыл бұрын
Why does this speaker leave out the factual event of robotics taking labour jobs? This is very biase
@judybayes9287
@judybayes9287 4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine robots changing adult diapers when there's a shortage of human labour, in future? Robots aren't developed enough to replace the declining rate of the human population to take over all their jobs. Not to mention who'll maintain all these robots? More robots?
@nickyetti93
@nickyetti93 3 жыл бұрын
@@judybayes9287 yep..more robots can maintain more robots
@devonleblanc9152
@devonleblanc9152 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, explain to me how robots replacing physical human labor somehow results in a world not worth bringing life into?
@dialectik
@dialectik 3 жыл бұрын
@@judybayes9287 Technology is currently doing a lot of things we couldn't imagine were possible a couple of decades ago. Robots have been washing dishes and doing laundry for decades now. If they are developing robots to do neurosurgery I don't think changing a diaper will be really a huge concern...
@monocerotisdust8519
@monocerotisdust8519 5 жыл бұрын
What i see is that women's who dont' want kids are still blamed and judged for their choice in 2019. What a shame.
@gottagotag6980
@gottagotag6980 5 жыл бұрын
So? Having kids is good. Not having them is bad.
@monocerotisdust8519
@monocerotisdust8519 5 жыл бұрын
@@gottagotag6980 Waw, what a great paradigm. "Having kids is good not having them is bad". Thanks you for the deep though, i cant' wait to listen your arguments.
@MusssabM
@MusssabM 5 жыл бұрын
Well sure some might be blamed and judged, but a lot are encouraged not to have any and instead live a carefree, irresponsible life. While the doctors are focusing on creating and developing contraceptives and ways for abortion, so encourage women to live that life. Also, the whole theme of "the world is bad so bringing children into it is a crime".
@BIGGPHILL
@BIGGPHILL 5 жыл бұрын
Ehhhh... No thanks
@homewall744
@homewall744 5 жыл бұрын
Never again grumble about climate change. Never again grumble about pollution. Never again grumble about any place being crowded. Never again grumble that school, housing, medicine or the like it too expensive.
@goldyblob
@goldyblob 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, Home Wall, YES
@whats82
@whats82 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely said, but not convinced, even though I was hoping to be convinced when I saw the title. You present data showing birthrate decline You briefly mention the economic downside, and a racially motivated one You acknowledge opposition points but didn't offer possible solutions But is all of that, a bad thing ? The entire argument hinges on the last two sentences of the talk; an emotional plea for what you believe is good. I had hope for a logical one.
@stephaniesmith6643
@stephaniesmith6643 2 жыл бұрын
@whats82: Do you need a “logical” reason from a total stranger for producing & nurturing your own family? Perhaps you’ve had a bad experience but NOTHING is more important than family. It’s also how our species gets propagated ya know. That’s a couple of important reasons & I think that’s what this guy is attempting to say.
@whats82
@whats82 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephaniesmith6643 that's.. The premise of the video. To make a case. If you're already convinced and agree then the video isn't making a case or convincing you to a point of view. It's effectiveness is measured by convincing people who disagree or is undecided. Stating that you agree isn't exactly adding anything to the argument.
@andresvillegasmedina9277
@andresvillegasmedina9277 3 жыл бұрын
So this is an economy talk, not a Parenthood talk, good to know
@shubrank
@shubrank 5 жыл бұрын
Very disjointed talk.
@quinnwhittaker5472
@quinnwhittaker5472 5 жыл бұрын
People having fewer kids is a good thing.
@TheMrfrodough
@TheMrfrodough 5 жыл бұрын
Automation, there's going to be less workers required. We SHOULD be having less kids than previous generations. The reason is child death rates are very very low by comparison to the past.
@Zerobob26
@Zerobob26 5 жыл бұрын
I would agree, if it weren't for the fact we are all working longer and longer hours, as well as it being necessary for both parents to go to work now. It's all going wrong because of capitalism, and we need to start taxing companies who profit through automation, and putting this money back into society an a universal basic income.
@a7i20ci7y
@a7i20ci7y 5 жыл бұрын
Bro, your math doesn't check out. If women aren't even having two children on average, then one generation isn't replacing itself even if child death rates are zero.
@TheMrfrodough
@TheMrfrodough 5 жыл бұрын
@@a7i20ci7y I didnt say less than 2 children, I said less than previous generations. The human population becoming smaller as a whole isn't necessarily a bad thing
@TheMrfrodough
@TheMrfrodough 5 жыл бұрын
@@Zerobob26 there's nothing wrong with automation, it's a scientific inevitability. Things like universal income and other changes at a society level need to happen. I completely agree that capitalism is a problem on many levels but we need a solution that keeps people (as a whole) productive so that society doesn't collapse. Which isn't easy
@realpolitics527
@realpolitics527 5 жыл бұрын
@@a7i20ci7y world is overpopulated right now, maintaining population isnt the need, need is to reduce it slowly... At this time, The world simply does not produce enough food and resources for its entire population to live a healthy and good life...
@JK-qh4fw
@JK-qh4fw 5 жыл бұрын
Karma is not going to be brown and muslim but all mixed and Atheism. And then it's going to be the end of Human suffering. #antinatalism
@Ms7sOo
@Ms7sOo 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully karma turns out to be irreligious
@Prayag_Ace
@Prayag_Ace 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine You never had a child And that child never had to suffer liver cancer, that's the win win
@Delete240
@Delete240 Жыл бұрын
Imagine You never had a child You get liver cancer and have to deal with it alone because nobody cares about you
@Slade69
@Slade69 Жыл бұрын
The guy said , its a risk and that we all need to take risk. The only problem being we are taking risks on behalf of the baby which is not fair
@vapourkl5324
@vapourkl5324 Жыл бұрын
You think he cares ? he will just produce more offspring to compensate for any loss.
@cateyu5547
@cateyu5547 5 ай бұрын
Yes, because the baby has no choice but the parents do. I agree not fair to the child@@Slade69
@frankthomas2350
@frankthomas2350 5 жыл бұрын
Screw kids, i love my freedom and i don’t want to loose it, having kids is not the only way to be happy and experience this life and for once it would be great to thin out the herd for the planet’s sake.
@WhenCutVenKat
@WhenCutVenKat 5 жыл бұрын
wtf... while one of our biggest problems is overpopulation, this guy (religiously biased, whether you agree or not) is doing the world more harm than good. The last thing we need is more people!!
@goku-pops7918
@goku-pops7918 3 жыл бұрын
I feel logically we will come to the conclusion that it is not in mankind's favour to have kids. But once that is agreed upon your in some weird territory, what does a nation do when 80% of its population don't reproduce
@Vikash137
@Vikash137 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone is saying humans are reproducing too slowly
@glossary90
@glossary90 2 жыл бұрын
Ism a hungarian and i couldnt be more proud of our low reproduction rate.
@Jove1611
@Jove1611 2 ай бұрын
What if decline in europe's population makes brown people take over?
@SkylineGate
@SkylineGate 4 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to the speaker and his family. I wish them the best in dealing w their unforeseen challenges. My view is that the world should have fewer children as it has demonstrated that it is incapable of caring for all of the children already on the planet. We have created a social welfare system that operates much like a Ponzi scheme and does not take into account the damage to the planet and the world's finite resources. We have to put aside our individual desire to be loved and first address these realities. Humanity will continue to function and prosper w fewer people and lower economic/ population growth.
@paipai762
@paipai762 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone keeps ignoring the fact that less young now means less old people to take care of later. So less people is still good. We are overpopulated.
@paipai762
@paipai762 3 жыл бұрын
@Peter Kile It's insane.. my local municipality and probably all over the country is fighting to make people have more kids to combat this problem. To me, this feels very short-sighted. I don't claim to be an expert but surely there are enough humans on this planet without a job already.
@urmomfarturdaddied
@urmomfarturdaddied 5 жыл бұрын
I don't want any because I simply don't like them. Of course that's hard for people to understand... Others can have them if they really want...
@dontknowdontcare7192
@dontknowdontcare7192 5 жыл бұрын
@zach pollock I feel you
@dogloverjb6873
@dogloverjb6873 5 жыл бұрын
totally disagree....we need less people on this planet. 8 billion and counting...the planet is over burdened.
@tarico4436
@tarico4436 5 жыл бұрын
If your goal is to get rid of the huge people, then yes "We need LESS people on this planet...." But if your goal is to curb overpopulation, then what you were trying to type, The Pet Scene, was "We need FEWER people on this planet."
@brianlemaire4221
@brianlemaire4221 5 жыл бұрын
Our impact on the other species.
@jhonklan3794
@jhonklan3794 3 жыл бұрын
Overpopulation is myth, the world population is expected to stagnate by 2050 at a manageable level.
@marcoyun
@marcoyun 5 жыл бұрын
When i just heard of your thought bout Nusayba, i... i just don't know. I'm still terrified to have babies, but it indeed give me a moment
@skm460
@skm460 4 жыл бұрын
The entire argument focuses on economy and not the struggles that people do to run the economy. Why not be the last generation of humans and stop the next generation from all the atrocities of life? Yes our generation would suffer when we would be old but that can be considered as a sacrifice that we did for the betterment of our kids(who were never born!!!). On one hand we bring kids to this world other the other we teach them how tough life is. Then why bring them in the first place?
@umayr2935
@umayr2935 3 жыл бұрын
Whats the point of even endorsing overpopulation when the parental benefits and safety nets are in a huge decline, why not ask the corporates to do otherwise instead of asking the employees to have more children with less to live on
@G_G251
@G_G251 5 жыл бұрын
Not in a world based upon psychopathic tendencies, selfishness, profit-centered, and destruction. Maybe we should create an emphatic society before we decide to flood the Earth with even more helpless humans who didn't choose to be born into this hellish reality.
@ProjektKlover
@ProjektKlover 5 жыл бұрын
So, you want the human species to go extinct?
@G_G251
@G_G251 5 жыл бұрын
​@@ProjektKlover I want the human species to get a grip on itself, and instead of people giving speeches telling us we should keep on having kids I want to see speeches about how we can work to fix all of the different messes we're in so that children can finally grow up in a world that embraces them instead of beating them down. Where they're part of a big community that strives to make sure that everybody is taken care of and that nobody is burdened by societal/economical/medical/etc. pressures.
@ProjektKlover
@ProjektKlover 5 жыл бұрын
@@G_G251Yes, that is a good attitue, and I believe that when the older generation that is making up the majority of governments etc., progressively get replaced by the next generation, more progress will be made because the younger generation is more keen on solving these problems.
@thehope1999
@thehope1999 5 жыл бұрын
@@ProjektKlover So what's the problem with that? Why are humans more special than any other species on this planet?
@emuriddle9364
@emuriddle9364 3 жыл бұрын
@@thehope1999 Because we were brought here to be the stewards of our planet. Eventually, the gift of intelligence would have been given to somebody.
@missionlightsgrp9187
@missionlightsgrp9187 11 ай бұрын
A friend of mine confessed to me that she wish policies and legislation involving having kids were harder. She would have never had kids if that was the case.
@txlyons2937
@txlyons2937 9 ай бұрын
Friends and family who married young and had kids have spoken to me privately to *warn* me: "Don't do it!"
@NihilAnand
@NihilAnand 5 жыл бұрын
Who gave this guy a TED talk? He killed his own argument lol...there IS no point!
@ronakkothari809
@ronakkothari809 5 жыл бұрын
Of course They can't be funny and logical at the same time😂🤣
@annnee6818
@annnee6818 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't make a case did he?😣😣😣
@chloeroad1448
@chloeroad1448 5 жыл бұрын
I feel this is coming from a capitalistic standpoint about replacing the labour force etc. The initial points about the environment and over population were brushed over. Yes there will be less tax etc to support an ageing population, but money could be saved from childcare policies as well as increasing the retirement age, there are definitely ways to combat this that we are already seeing. However, reducing the population is so important for the environment. Our current life is unsustainable with the amount of resources needed to keep us all alive and our collective carbon footprints. China’s one child policy will effect their growth but their position in the global economy is not the most important thing anymore. Society as a whole needs to stop glorifying financial growth as it’s these priorities that has lead to ignorance over environment damage and climate change. Perhaps I’m coming from an over romanticised view here as we need the economy to create stability and also having kids is definitely not always a negative thing. I just didn’t agree with the narrow focus here.
@ellie_5276
@ellie_5276 5 жыл бұрын
Well said !
@jlshoem
@jlshoem 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the world's problems are being caused by overpopulation. One guy on TED said that we have enough resources for 10 billion people. He never mentioned the effect that those people would have on the Earth and each other. When people get forced close together, the try to avoid each other, and they fight. When I grew up in the 1960s, we knew all of our neighbors and we were all friends. Now, there are only a few that every talk to each other. Houses in my neighborhood are being ripped up and several houses put in there place. All the houses in our neighborhood used to be about 65 feet apart. Now, most are less than 30 feet apart, and some as little at 15 feet apart. Stephen Hawking once said that if things continue at this rate, people will eventually crush together so much that they will ignite and create a star.
@Dookie6891
@Dookie6891 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Goodspeed says it best. "Bringing a child into this world would be an act of cruelty."
@MrAykut23
@MrAykut23 5 жыл бұрын
Disagree because im sorry, that is incoherent
@badvermin
@badvermin 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrAykut23 The person whose sentences contain no capitalization or punctuation whines about incoherence. LOL.
@MrAykut23
@MrAykut23 5 жыл бұрын
@@badvermin Have I confused you
@vidhyaharfas29
@vidhyaharfas29 5 жыл бұрын
Still not convinced. And never going to be. Facts cannot be neglected and this man’s attempts are at best weak and at worst dangerously flawed.
@leonasworkshop
@leonasworkshop 5 жыл бұрын
People don't have kids because they just don't like them, you forgot about that. I ain't having kids because I hate the idea of having to take care of someone else other than me 24/7.
@badvermin
@badvermin 5 жыл бұрын
Plus the money, time, and physical/emotional exhaustion.
@user-hh2is9kg9j
@user-hh2is9kg9j 5 жыл бұрын
well you will be extinct. an evolution failure ! you will have no one to be proud of no one to carry your name and legacy. it is actually sad that you think your life is just dancing in clubs.
@user-hh2is9kg9j
@user-hh2is9kg9j 5 жыл бұрын
@Zikzy that is not true, I am proud of my 600 years old grandfather who I visit his castle from time to time, I remember his name and I will name my children after him. unlike an unnamed man in his generation who had no children.
@mandik2050
@mandik2050 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps instead of trying to guilt women into having kids we should be asking how to prepare for a society that isn't based on a huge population. Let the earth heal itself a bit. Give animals a fighting chance? If a woman doesn't want children it is her decision to make.
@shaikhafzal1021
@shaikhafzal1021 5 жыл бұрын
Yes u r ryt but think first about a women who dont hv a single baby and thy r worried about thre loneliness.
@elinope4745
@elinope4745 5 жыл бұрын
It used to be a single income family from a high school graduate could maintain a family of 4. I am sure that if that was the case now that the birthrate would have a dramatic rise.
@dalegreer3095
@dalegreer3095 5 жыл бұрын
TED scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one. The problems of decreasing population are trivial compared to those of increasing population. I don’t advocate everyone having no children, but until population gets back down to a comfortable level, there’s nothing wrong with only having one or two. Japan has peaked and they’re still a vital economy. China will peak soon, but they will remain economically vital. Meanwhile some countries are approaching Soylent Green levels of overcrowding.
@vapourkl5324
@vapourkl5324 Жыл бұрын
Apparently TED's only solution to the world's problem is to have more babies. I'm shocked.
@simonnicholls5005
@simonnicholls5005 2 жыл бұрын
People who want kids are always going to find a way to have them. People like me who don't want kids are NEVER going to change their minds! So they will never have kids unless they have them by accident and don't abort. In other words you cannot change people by arguing with them, reasoning with them or ramming statistics down people's throats. This talk regardless of how well thought out and we'll presented it is are useless.
@epsospremium6088
@epsospremium6088 5 жыл бұрын
*Affordable childcare and healthcare* is a major help for parents. Paying rent, while taking care of the kids is much more simple, if rent is affordable too !
@mr.boredom9842
@mr.boredom9842 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most pointless ted talks I've every watched. Nothing but stale and unfounded arguments
@kaemcolm5455
@kaemcolm5455 3 жыл бұрын
And this is a journalist? What a load of utter drivel.
@91722854
@91722854 2 жыл бұрын
pensions are really just for those who have kids and grandkids, so it's all just a self-fulfilling circle, no kid, no need for insane amount of extra expenditure, more money saved for when u are too old to work and therefore no need for those future financial aid
@sirazazeloflowkey6424
@sirazazeloflowkey6424 2 жыл бұрын
All I keep hearing is ; • Financial Systems will struggle. • Big Companies will have labor shortages for their planned growth. • Investors will lose on Investments • Corrupt Governments will have less tax revenue to squander. Considering as it looks, I won't be getting a pension until I am 80 anyway even if I pump out seven kids. So miss me with that bull. Demographic decline seems good. Less people by comparison to today seems like a positive not a negative. Quality over Quantity, both of people and of life quality I say.
@testchannelpleaseignore2452
@testchannelpleaseignore2452 2 жыл бұрын
So basically we need to force people against their will to exist so our lives are more comfortable.
@yasminister2011
@yasminister2011 Жыл бұрын
Less children means less labor but it ALSO means less crime, less people on benefits, less strain on the medical system. Less mental illness. Less of everything, not just the good things. It’s relative!
@mojtabahakimi8082
@mojtabahakimi8082 3 жыл бұрын
So ... we have to have kids because we need to survive in the system we built ourselves?
@emuriddle9364
@emuriddle9364 3 жыл бұрын
And to make sure we still have people to help each other, along the way. Our therapist was once somebody's child. Police Officers, Caregivers, Doctors, etc. And it's not always involuntarily. Some really do like to contribute, on their own free will.
@bushrasew
@bushrasew 2 жыл бұрын
First may allah heal his daughter,second life is just more easy with out children
@gfbmusic
@gfbmusic 5 жыл бұрын
"IRON FIST", "DIAPERS", "DICTATORS". AWW BABIES R SO CUTEEE
@gfbmusic
@gfbmusic 5 жыл бұрын
I WAN WAN 22222
@MrAykut23
@MrAykut23 5 жыл бұрын
I think several ppl watched this & said "Yep and left", maybe several of those ppl didnt even click on the video. Hence populating this comment section predominantly with ppl answering Wajahat, & i appreciate the candidness in comparison to hypocrisy that can be found elsewhere, i dont need anymore of that, but i still think the cups of such ppl are more empty than they need to be or could otherwise not be
@brandonkaplan2143
@brandonkaplan2143 2 жыл бұрын
Why in the world would I care about the future of earth after I’m gone? You want me to sacrifice my one and only life for some future timeline I won’t even be participating in?
@eastafricakingdom74
@eastafricakingdom74 5 жыл бұрын
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@Ms7sOo
@Ms7sOo 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing against kids , I personally want one of my own in the future but i do understand people who aren’t very optimistic about it
@cribbycrabby7321
@cribbycrabby7321 2 жыл бұрын
i know this comment is old but if you could give a child chance and adopt them if possible