The Castles of Burgundy Review - I've Had This Game For 10 Years

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The game is set in the Burgundy region of High Medieval France. Each player takes on the role of an aristocrat, originally controlling a small princedom. While playing they aim to build settlements and powerful castles, practice trade along the river, exploit silver mines, and use the knowledge of travelers.
The game is about players taking settlement tiles from the game board and placing them into their princedom which is represented by the player board. Every tile has a function that starts when the tile is placed in the princedom. The princedom itself consists of several regions, each of which demands its own type of settlement tile.
The game is played in five phases, each consisting of five rounds. Each phase begins with the game board stocked with settlement tiles and goods tiles. At the beginning of each round all players roll their two dice, and the player who is currently first in turn order rolls a goods placement die. A goods tile is made available on the game board according to the roll of the goods die. During each round players take their turns in the current turn order. During his turn, a player may perform any two of the four possible types of actions: 1) take a settlement tile from the numbered depot on the game board corresponding to one of his dice and place it in the staging area on his player board, 2) take a settlement tile from the staging area of his player board to a space on his player board with a number matching one of his dice in the corresponding region for the type of tile and adjacent to a previously placed settlement tile, 3) deliver goods with a number matching one of his dice, or 4) take worker tokens which allow the player to adjust the roll of his dice. In addition to these actions a player may buy a settlement tile from the central depot on the game board and place it in the staging area on his player board. If an action triggers the award of victory points, those points are immediately recorded. Each settlement tile offers a benefit, additional actions, additional money, advancement on the turn order track, more goods tiles, die roll adjustment or victory points. Bonus victory points are awarded for filling a region with settlement tiles.
The game ends when the last player finishes his turn of the fifth round of the fifth phase. Victory points are awarded for unused money and workers, and undelivered goods. Bonus victory points from certain settlement tiles are awarded at the end of the game.
BGG Link - boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2...
TimeStamps:
0:00:00 - Overview
0:06:38 - Ease of Play
0:07:25 - Player Count
0:08:25 - What I Like
0:14:15 - What I Don't Like
0:16:15 - What I Can See Others Not Liking
0:17:17 - Final Thoughts
0:19:21 - Recommendations
5.0 - My absolutely favorite games. You can pry them out of my cold dead hands.
4.5 - Love this game! At the same time missing something that would make it a 5. Could be hard to table, lacking variability, a little light, etc.
4.0 - Really great game, almost always keeping, although has meaningful complaints as to what takes away from the experience.
3.5 - Really enjoyed, don't love it, may lose out to better games but the idea of never playing again is a bit sad.
3.0 - A good game, would play and suggest with the right people, if I never played it again wouldn't lose any sleep.
2.5 - A game I'd play again , but will never suggest it myself
2.0 - A game I don't want to play again
1.5 - A game I can't find any reason to recommend
1.0 - A game that is just bad.
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Пікірлер: 78
@bryanwinston8820
@bryanwinston8820 2 жыл бұрын
I’m now watching you do reviews of games I own and love already. You’ve basically taken over my life at this point.
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
I'll take it :) Thanks Bryan :)
@bryanscollick8305
@bryanscollick8305 2 жыл бұрын
I started to play it on BGA because I have heard so much about this game and as soon as I finished, I wanted to play straight away! I really like this game, the strategies, the puzzle, the streamlined play. It takes a while to really understand the game. It feels like chess, easy to teach but a lifetime to learn to play well. I hope you do a video on the new Awaken Realms release. Thanks again., Alex!
@apokai
@apokai 2 жыл бұрын
I was SO waiting on this video! Thanks Alex, you`re the man!
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely :)
@Kojimalosophy
@Kojimalosophy 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Alex! Thank you!
@Vypper7
@Vypper7 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, and fair criticisms also, for my #1 game. It was the first “heavy” game I played along with Power Grid, like 13 years ago or so , and it pretty much was an instant hit. Just really hits all the right notes in my brain. When I heard Awaken Realms was doing a new edition, I thought it was an April Fools joke, but it was for real, crazy times we live in.
@ChadHensley
@ChadHensley 2 жыл бұрын
I really like CoB and am excited about the collectors edition. The announcement of the expansion today has my even more interested. Thanks for your insight as always!
@bamthemighty9712
@bamthemighty9712 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review, very helpful.
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely :)
@sleepykid19
@sleepykid19 2 жыл бұрын
I acquired this game last month largely due to your channel, and it immediately made a case for my top 5 from the first play (competing with The Godfather: Corleone's Empire, Blood Rage, Lost Ruins of Arnak, and Dune Imperium, and Inis), so thank you for the recommendations (I discovered Inis because of you, too). This game is incredible, though our sessions still run quite long. The Gamefound campaign looks incredible, but it's hard to justify spending $150+ just to deluxify a game I already own... we'll see if I give in or not, but it's not looking good for my wallet. I guess I'll have to start looking into Grand Austria Hotel now, too..
@paulb2474
@paulb2474 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see your thoughts on solo play, even though you haven't had 10 years of play testing.
@andrewbilling6301
@andrewbilling6301 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. So many fantastic older great games which again asks the question about always buying new games on crowd funding. Not sure I need the updated version currently being offered. Will wait and see as the campaign unfolds. I've been looking for the Grand Austria Hotel for sometime but hard to get in Australia.
@Tom-xl8rv
@Tom-xl8rv 2 жыл бұрын
Love this game, but have only maybe 6 or 7 plays (not including plays on the app). What are your thoughts on the shields and trade route modules? I haven't dug into them yet. How often, if ever, do you use them in your plays?
@Paul-ro6py
@Paul-ro6py 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. We have the first edition (no expansions) and really enjoy the game (art excluded) so yes the collectors edition is very appealing.
@sethwinslow
@sethwinslow 2 жыл бұрын
Good interview. I still have a few other questions, if you talk to Marvin again. 1. is Sundrop available on the all-in gameplay (not royal)? 1a. Will the Sundrop castles be color shaded for the four players? 2. Is there an option of different art? I.e., different ships or mine tiles? 3. Will there be expiations on the back of the brown buildings tiles or just the yellows? Inquiring minds want to know. :)
@prophet2173
@prophet2173 2 жыл бұрын
*sigh, leading up to the campaign, I thought I'd easily be able to pass on this game as it just didn't look interesting, but after watching this video and your other video about the game, I think this might be a great game for me to try! Now the question is, which pledge level to back lol! Great video! ✌🏼
@ralder1
@ralder1 2 жыл бұрын
Ok after all this time you convinced me. I've always been eyeing it, but never pulled the trigger, but now I'm Sundrop all in on Gamefound!
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy it :)
@philipthonemann2524
@philipthonemann2524 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great review - I’m buying it!
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo Жыл бұрын
Enjoy it!
@prestonharris7406
@prestonharris7406 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, do you think Middara is worth backing in the late pledge?
@NickBeenackers
@NickBeenackers 2 жыл бұрын
where did you get that shirt Alex? I would like to gift it to a friend of mine. also love the content you do! especially liked the recent collabertions.
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
TeeTurtle :) And thanks!
@codym6376
@codym6376 2 жыл бұрын
When I first got into the hobby this was the first big game we got. After the first play I thought, “that’s the 15th best game of all time?”. But the next day I realized I’ve been thinking about it all day afterwards. We’ve played it 6 or 7 more times since then and I agree this is a very satisfying game to play. Is Grand Austria Hotel more complex?
@Vypper7
@Vypper7 2 жыл бұрын
GAH is less complex. It does scratch some of the same itch as COB as Alex says, but not really. Feels a little repetitive to me, you are basically fulfilling orders over and over. If anything, I get more of a COB feeling from Lorenzo Il Magnifico, from the same designers as GAH. Or from Santa Maria, which has the dice manipulation and also tile laying. Or from Bora Bora also from Feld.
@blackjack2150
@blackjack2150 2 жыл бұрын
Similar complexity, I would say. The only issue is that GAH is really hard to get now for some reason. But I think they are planning a reprint due to demand. Another game I would say has a similar feeling is The Magnificent. It has Dice drafting that results in satisfying combos, as well. The theme and looks are a bit unconventional, though.
@cadiboy04
@cadiboy04 2 жыл бұрын
Is this a reupload? Somehow I remember that you've reviewed this game before?
@TimeAndTactics
@TimeAndTactics 4 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what insert he is using for the game?
@oliverlam5208
@oliverlam5208 2 жыл бұрын
To tell the truth, this type of game mechanic and style doesn’t really draw me in, yet I’m super excited to back the new version after your comments and videos 😀🙇‍♂️
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
Lol sorry :)
@haroldsmith7044
@haroldsmith7044 10 ай бұрын
I'm told there's also a mode in this game where you can play 2-vs-2. I haven't tried it yet, but it sounds like it could be a lot of fun.
@anthonium.
@anthonium. 2 жыл бұрын
I want to try this game but stuck between finding and buying this edition or the new version on game found. Only thing is money is tight at the moment!
@HitikusVD
@HitikusVD 2 жыл бұрын
I love the game but is it worth paying 85€ +21€ shipping for the new gamefound campaign?
@Faent89
@Faent89 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. One of my favorites as well. I was hoping you would give a little more of your opinion on whether to back the new Awaken Realms reprint or not, especially since you already own a copy of the game. I also own the anniversary edition but I'm torn. Considering 2nd print of Great Wall OR the new Burgundy reprint. Both would be difficult to swing...
@patattaq
@patattaq 2 жыл бұрын
I’m very curious to hear his thoughts on it as well. He’ll certainly give his opinions on it soon. If he doesn’t make a full dedicated video for it he will talk about it during his next “To Back or Not to Back” video. Personally I’m really hoping for a dedicated video for this edition considering it’s his #2 game of all time and he made a long video to speculate on this new Awaken Realms print.
@bryanwinston8820
@bryanwinston8820 2 жыл бұрын
Alex has already said he is definitely going to get the new version. I’d assume that means he’ll be suggesting we do if we love the game.
@Faent89
@Faent89 2 жыл бұрын
@@patattaq He just posted one lol
@Bladedheart
@Bladedheart 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to make a request... when you're talking about a game that you don't currently have on the table showing the box, could you edit it in, potentially scrolling through a few pictures of the board and components so we can see what it is you're talking about before we decide if we want to do a google? I know it's more editing time but it would be wildly helpful. Especially with some of the weirder titles. You know you talk fast, you've admitted it plenty of times, but some of those weirdly titled games I can't always catch. I suppose even just the title of the game you're talking about in text would help some.
@jasonliang2932
@jasonliang2932 Жыл бұрын
Some games have the ability to capture your imagination, even if you wouldn't expect it to - for example, Concordia. I have many other issues with Castles of Burgundy (randomness which goes beyond the dice, interaction being limited to blocking other players' plays, and the need to block other players' plays or else they can easily snowball to a dominant victory), my biggest issue with Castles of Burgundy is that it is not a game that has the ability to capture your imagination.
@pnutbutrncrackers
@pnutbutrncrackers Жыл бұрын
There is no doubt to me there is something special about COB because (and I'm serious) it has not only survived, but has thrived despite two of the worst boards I've seen for a first-rate game. (I think the anniversary edition is even worse than the original.) The actual game play must be of rare and superior quality. I only wish it had the aesthetic presentation worthy of its innate merit.
@MerrillWhiteKalEl
@MerrillWhiteKalEl 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I am going to pay a LOT of money for the AW deluxe version. Such a great game.
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
It's one of my favorites. Second to be precise.
@Kojimalosophy
@Kojimalosophy 2 жыл бұрын
Hey BGC community, could someone please help out? (Alex himself maybe ) . I recently bought "Caverna", "Orléans" and "A Feast for Odin" (all 3 of them with all of their pertaining expansions) , I am ashame to admit I haven't played them (cuz I'm going through some other games) ...would you guys think that any of these aforementioned games replaces "The Castles of Burgundy"? Meaning it would be redundant for me to back it on gamefound? . I would really appreciate the feedback, thanks!
@KenDudd
@KenDudd 2 жыл бұрын
Castles of Burgundy is nothing like the other three games you mentioned. Other than several of them having you place pieces on a board to fill a space, the mechanics and purposes are completely different. Caverna and A feast for Odin are more similar to each other than anything else, in that they are quite sprawling, free worker placement games. Also, you might want to wait to see if you like the games before picking up all the expansions! ha.
@Kojimalosophy
@Kojimalosophy 2 жыл бұрын
@@KenDudd yeah, you are right about the expansions, I learned that in hindsight :/ ... Thank you for taking the time, you make a pretty good point
@DashOr
@DashOr 2 жыл бұрын
Burgundy or Tuscany for two players? We often play late and don't have that much time on out hands. I think burgundy might be a little long and I heard Tuscany is a better two player game. opinions?
@adilck6188
@adilck6188 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know about tuscany, but burgundy is better at 2 players, because you Can interact more easily, less down Time, and the race part of the game feels better According to me, burgundy is getting worse the more player there is above 2
@zacnavein7558
@zacnavein7558 2 жыл бұрын
Game looks interesting but I really don't like dice in games like that (Cattan etc). I need to see some gameplays to decide.
@aarongelb9793
@aarongelb9793 2 жыл бұрын
Santa Cruz is another good medium weight Euro that has a similar feeling to CoB.
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
I need to play that one :)
@MrJoelXIII
@MrJoelXIII 2 жыл бұрын
no mention about this edition that have some of the tiles misprinted/disaligned from the center?
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean ?
@MrJoelXIII
@MrJoelXIII 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGameCo some of the tiles have the picture printed on it not perfectly centered, as some tiles you show on the camera in the "what I would like to have from the next awaken realms version"
@psterud
@psterud 4 ай бұрын
Agree with everything here, except maybe about the art, which to me is fine (the original version). It's charming. But maybe I'm defensive because everyone complains about the art. Not a big fan of the later releases. No other game we have causes the same amount of joy and tension as this, and we've also been doing it for 10+ years, playing it several dozens of times (at mostly 2P). No lead is ever safe until after the final count, and every playthrough is different. Totally agree about Grand Austria Hotel being similar. That's our number two game. After this video we'll have to check out Voyages of Marco Polo. I'm curious about what was your number one game when this video was made, and maybe now. Thanks.
@fernandoberdichevsky5617
@fernandoberdichevsky5617 2 жыл бұрын
While watching the video I can’t stop thinking about the change of look. Is it just me? Is it the Tshirt? Is it the haircut and beard? Is it the more relaxed and paused talking..??? I love it by the way
@WolandSilent
@WolandSilent 2 жыл бұрын
improved lighting
@fernandoberdichevsky5617
@fernandoberdichevsky5617 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Thought so but I’m on the phone so wasn’t sure
@apokai
@apokai 2 жыл бұрын
It is his happiness of quitting his job to do what he loves :)
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
What Frederic said :) But all the rest too probably. Lighting has changed in recent videos for sure.
@Hudsonbba
@Hudsonbba 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on Troyes then?
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
It's excellent! I prefer Castles but Troyes is one of my favs.
@sethwinslow
@sethwinslow 2 жыл бұрын
Good review. But one thing about luck - you slightly understate the problem. It's not just the last turn of the game. I mean, yes, that's huge. But there is also a parallel but lessor luck problem on the last roll of each round. You need that 3, 4, or 5 (in your example) to get that tile before it disappears, and wham! double 6.
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that end round there are still enough stuff you should be prepped for. Tiles to place, goods to sell etc
@bryanwinston8820
@bryanwinston8820 2 жыл бұрын
I’d never play Castles at 4. It takes FOREVER. Otherwise it’s perfection.
@anab0lic
@anab0lic 2 жыл бұрын
This game has pretty much no player interaction right? The number one thing that turns me off in a game...
@fingolfinfinwe
@fingolfinfinwe 2 жыл бұрын
The sheer ugliness of the main board with this edition is pushing me further towards backing the new edition. Thanks Alex...
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
Yep....that's why there's a demand for it.
@CheddahSlammer
@CheddahSlammer 2 жыл бұрын
Isnt this ranked 17th on Bgg. Must have went down.
@maxf.7262
@maxf.7262 2 жыл бұрын
A comment for the algorithm ;)
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciated :)
@HowardAbraham
@HowardAbraham 2 жыл бұрын
Is this a $300+ game?
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
Getting to jt
@Renegade_KT
@Renegade_KT 2 жыл бұрын
"As of 2021"?!? But what about as of the 2022 😁🤪
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, haven't done my 2022 lists yet
@Renegade_KT
@Renegade_KT 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGameCo Fair enough haha but it's always feels weird for me to hear where your ranking stand at for last year instead of what is your current ranking. Great content btw. As usual. 😁
@stacie_everdell
@stacie_everdell 2 жыл бұрын
Soooooo.........you like it?
@BoardGameCo
@BoardGameCo 2 жыл бұрын
A tad...
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