No need to apologise.

Use of the word 'flummoxed' more than made up for the audio dropouts.

Thanks mate, thought was my phone’s speakers gone wonky

😎

It does sound very much like that 🤣 It’s the wireless transmitter losing its connection with the receiver. Serves me right for buying crap.

Thanks Paul 🙂

On KZfaq!

​@andrew thornton the heyday of motoring journalism is no more. The clingers on to the Top Gear legacy are now historical observantionists. A very good thing I like, but the future has a narrowing appeal.

Tempting fate with comments like this 😈

Thanks Patrick 🙂

Someday, I hopefully will!

That’s very kind of you Huw!

@@TwinCam Not a problem. A comparison of my 1949 MM lowlight and a 2023 Tesla might be fun 😀

In all fairness, in Australia you get to have the Giocattolo! My favorite Alfa of the 80s

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sLedq7eB08rcoXU.html 😎😎

Thanks again 🙂

Thanks mate 🙂

Thanks Tricia 🙂

Thanks Seve 🙂

Thanks Andy, that's very kind of you to say :)

Thanks as always Rob 😎

Thanks as always Philip 🙂

Thanks Graham 🙂

Thanks as always David 🙂

Yes! I probably should have done. Only reason I left it out is because it’s necessary to locate the tube because the car’s coil sprung.

The 3.0 GTV6 sold here was a homologation special for Group One racing at the time. 207 was made in total, depending on who you talk to, some suggest only 170 or so, others suggest 212. But there are probably now more 3.0 GTV6's in the UK, New Zeeland and Australia, than in South Africa, all gone. I agree that the original stainless steel bumper variants are arguably the prettiest.

South African 3.0s had a fibre glass bonnet with a power bulge - this was needed as it turned out 2.5 air box was very restrictive. Also went back to carburetors, faster and easier to tune than Fuel injection in those days. Alfa workshop I used in the UK in the eighties had and original SA "TJ" car he used to race - synchro's replaced every couple of races. The South African 3.0s is a different configuration to the later 3.0 Alfa sixes. Car went on to beat BMW 745, Sierra XR8 (mustang V8 homologated - turbo's not allowed in SA).

Thanks James, very kind of you to say 🙂

Thanks Mark :)

I blow hot and cold on it. Depends on the day! I really need an Alfa in my life.

@@TwinCam I haven't been without a classic Alfa Romeo for one day in 32 years. Although I am not using them as daily drivers anymore. But each time I take one for a drive it is a special occasion. I recently took a 64 year old friend out for a drive in the Alfetta GTV, who hasn't been in an Alfa Romeo since the late eighties. He now finds himself totally in love with these Italian characters, wanting to buy one desperately. He owns some pretty nice modern machinery, but considers them sterile in comparison. Which brings me to a quote from a John Tipler Alfa Romeo book..... "to drive one today, is to rediscover forgotten pleasures", or something resembling that at least.

I tend to agree. Ideally, the 116 sedan's longer wheelbase should have been used to effectively shorten the rear overhang.

Thanks mate! I’d love to, but I need to be offered one first.

@@TwinCam I'm sure if you put out the word to car clubs, they will flag one for you.

And here’s my video on it - complete with driving impressions! The Alfasud is One of the All-Time Greats kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o91lkq94uN7Og4k.html

Indeed. Mike Kenyon who Started Chaparral was my father in law. There are only 3 cars left in existence as far as im aware. I have one of them, there is this one which i have a pic of taken in around 1990 with Mike in it and one other which i believe is now in Ireland having been restored by Alex Jupe motorsport. The original unit at Westbury is now Rainbow paints (i go there quite regularly) lol

@@thedubshed3480Ah of course, I go there for paint as well 😄

The Princess is wedge shaped as well but thats where it stopped. The Princess could have looked a lot better if they had the stance right, and a lot of details. The basic shape isnt too bad though. But still they look sedated and dull imo where the gtv looks agressive and exiting.

A good eco friendly Alfa 🍀🤣

They do exist, though in small numbers. I’d love to do a video on one someday.

@Hilary I have never heard of a 3.5 GTV6 I am pretty sure no such thing exists. The 3.0L GTV6 South Africa model, yes. This model was brought out to compete against the BMW535i at the time , which had a 3,5l motor. The wiki article quotes this….are you getting confused with the BMW? The article wording is misleading , if you are quoting from that. Just saying. Please provide information if I’m wrong.

Not particularly. I didn’t have the time, so I just mentioned it because I knew it existed.

Please rewatch the video and listen to what I say.

I like the wheels, just not on a GTV6 😅

Those cars all use torsion beams in conjunction with coil springs. Torsion bars are a different technology and don’t require additional coil springs.

​Twin-Cam the VW Beetle,Type 3& Karmann Ghia all have the Torsion Bar so it's very easy to lower the cars.

Yes, the traditional VWs have torsion bars, as does the Morris Minor.

@@Pmjs I think lowering them ruins them. The Type 3 especially has a great ride and good handing at standard height.

@David Summers I remember watching Ant on Wheeler Dealers USA, and he raised the height of the Type 3 Fastback as it was too low.

What’re you expecting? It’s been sat since 2000. I assume you noticed the rust? 🥴

It’s certainly simpler, but I like them both. They’re very similar, I feel, but I’d have to go GT just for the V6.

I didn’t ‘miss’ anything. If I went into great detail about everything we’d be here all day. My videos are long enough as they are with a description of the general benefits of torsion bars. However, the part about an ‘English designed binnacle’ isn’t true. Depending on the model year, they had that from factory. A quick Google search confirms that. However, this car is too old for that binnacle to have been original, so it will have been fitted presumably during restoration. But it is an original Alfa dashboard.

@@TwinCam Just saw your reply about the binnacle which is untrue! That is a non factory designed, Alfa GB commisioned Ogle dashboard so look up british designed ogle alfetta dashboard on google and read thread on alfaforums where is stated this dashboard was only fitted on the 1982 model year as an interim dashboard on a small batch of uk cars. I am an Alfisti and know the Alfetta intimately and still have an early alfetta. The Alfetta GT was launched with a split binnacle with the rev counter directly in front and all the other gauges in the centre binnacle. Alfa Romeo UK modified the original dashboard for uk imported RHD cars by swapping the original speedometer directly in front of the driver and the rev counter around with the other gauges remaining as before. Despite this Alfa GB got so much criticism about this earlier split dashboard from customers that before the RHD GTV6s came to the UK they commissioned a british company called "Ogle" to design the dash you see in the GTV6 you are showing, only produced for 1982, with all the gauges in a central gauge, as an interim dashboard which the uk importers fitted during predelivery until they got the later factory designed dashboard launched earlier in european GTV6s and for RHD UK GTV6s starting 1983, and which was the only other new factory designed dashboard on any Alfetta GTV or GTV6 with the speedometer, clock and rev counter in large binnacles in front of the driver and ancillary dials in three smaller binnacles in the centre of the dashboard. Lastly on your original video you also omitted to mention the dedion axle saves unsprung weight also compared to a live axle and the rear watts linkage pivot mounted on the dedion is absolutely fundamental to the pure handling of the alfetta layout that you describe. The alfetta also introduced rack and pinion steering (still used today in modern cars) but free of the weight of front mounted springs. Compared to the previious generation Alfa Romeo Giulia of the 1960s the Alfetta had less unsprung weight front and rear allied to better 50/50 weght distribution and better steering, way ahead of BMW at the time or any other mainstream auto sports car maker, which takes little time to say!

So you didn’t listen to what I said then?

I’d wager you’d be unable to hear the sound, as you clearly didn’t listen to the video.

See the pinned comment.

Beggars can’t be choosers, as much as I’d love to.

@@TwinCam What kind of person lets you have the keys to a car like that, with a sound like has, and doesn’t allow you to start it?! 😂😂😂

Did you even watch the video? Or are you just thick?

You appear to take yourself far too seriously.

Did you even listen to the video? 😬🤣

@@TwinCam Yes, did you? Is no one allowed an opinion, especially someone who owns a GTV-6 or is your rather young level of experience the last word?

V8? Are you serious?

@@TwinCam Giocatolo...😉

@@TwinCam you're welcome

Eh?

Please try to listen before commenting.

You didn’t listen to the video, did you?

Still, should have....

Well that’s just been confirmed undoubtedly.

Utter rubbish. Chaparral wasn’t a made up name - it was named after a bird. Plus, Jim Hall’s Chaparral existed for what? Five years? Chaparral the boat manufacturer has been around for over fifty years.

@@TwinCam You don’t know your history. Hall and Chaparral were around from the early 60s through the late 70s and were the first to use the name. The bird by the way is geococcyx californius, the road runner. Hall also is the father of modern race car aerodynamics. Hall’s use outdates the the boat builder and the motorcycle dealer.

@@TwinCam You don’t know your history. Check out the history of Jim Hall and Chaparral cars. I am referring to automotive use of the name. The car name was used before the boat company or motorcycle dealer.

So what you’re saying is that despite being invited by the auction to film the car, I should wait for it to be sold and potentially restored by this unknown new owner who may or may not know about my channel, and who may or may not be happy for me to video it. Just reread your comment, because it’s absolutely mental 🤣

@@TwinCam each his own

Think about it though. It’s impossible 🤣

@@TwinCam the fact no drive ruined the experience, all foreplay and no happy ending… I’m honest… my first car was a ‘74 GTV 2000 (coupe) in ‘85, yet the GTV6 was my dream then, I was 18, too out of reach, later on owned 5-6 Alfas, I was so looking forward for the drive…

I’ll await your video on a Chaparral GTV6 then 😌

Yes.

@@TwinCam well then, you get a dislike, for what is the worst car video I have ever seen in 40 years

That’s a shame. Hope you find happiness elsewhere 🌞

Well said twin cam!! Now off you pop Howard 👋

​@@howardlake6178 Perhaps, o wise one, you could tell us mere mortals exactly what was wrong with it? Or better still, show us how to do it with a video of your own?

I don’t think the car was drivable having been unused for many years.

The only reason he didn't drive it is that no-one has - since November 2000. He says so about the 9:30 mark.

Chaparral Motorsport hasn’t existed for years and years and years. Please watch the video.

Huw, it couldn’t have moved a yard without a fuel system 🤣

@The Makerfield Consort so that was the only one available? One couldn't of Been made available? Nah. I'm in the car game ofcourse they could of made one available. Just saw clip and thought.. he's too young.