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As a lifelong Charger fan, that's always been my level of expectation

They did say probably maybe possibly potentially back.

LFG Tyler!

LFG tyler!

Good comparison but maybe even more dramatic. It's like going from Patricia to Campbell but current Campbell with years of experience.

@@zachbenson9548well said I agree

Different style but Kyle Shanahan brought a pretty immediate culture change as well

It will be evident in about 2-3 years because keep in mind that if the Chargers have a roster to be *seriously* competitive then, guys like Bosa/Mack/Derwin Jr won't be around to be part of it. Its going to be a new group of talents along with Slater/Joe Alt and other stand outs who have to raise the level along with Herbert.

@@AnthonyDavis-ni6ri As a Ravens fan, I think the Chargers will do better. Blockers love Roman’s run schemes.

@@thek3289 🤣🤦

McConkey is about to eat

Hopefully he's done away with his long ass play names with too many motions that you can't check out of in time

Herbert solves both of your concerns

Wish people would not think they have to use vulgar language to make a point Go Chargers

@@Dashdedeh That's because it's an excellent coaching staff with years of continuity and previous working experience with each other. A complete 180 and the exact opposite of the way the Chargers have been run for the past decade.

No he doesn't. Having great coaches doesn't mean a team unbeatable. This teams coaching staff has become elite over the off-season, that's unquestionable based on resumes, but to think they're "unbeatable" is delusional for any team. Brett is definitely not implying that.

It will be, in about 3 years time.

Sounds about right as those were the reasons we lost so many games by a field goal or less while going for ridiculous fourth down attempts

Just need the roster to match the coaching staff, which could happen next year.

Without Herbert, it would've been 0-13 in that time span. Ice cold take my boy.

@@e-weenie5325 … that’s my point, they weren’t judged on what they could do without Herbert, because that’s no way to judge a team with a very good QB…

@@ColdAndBrew got you I understand what you were saying now

The packers game was the perfect example of how the chargers with Herbert have played. Herbert literally played a perfect game. He even added in a couple of great runs. All the way down to putting the ball in the hands of his wide open receiver to win the game who of course then dropped it. It’s criminal Herbert lost that game and that’s what the team has been since he got here. Chargers badly needed harbaugh to change things.

0-5 to finish the season was the goal towards a great draft pick,remember?

The hope is… With a good pass rush, it helps out the secondary.

Ok master Jedi

As someone who is married to someone who is from there, Jim will be fired in 3 years

He always has great defensive coordinators

@@romeda5156 He was being interviewed during his first season at Michigan and he was complaining that his defensive lineman didn't know what they were doing so he had to put a hand into the ground and show them the proper stance. For a former quaterback, he really understands that side of the ball.

@DatNicaLuis I think right now the positivity is high. I think what differiants a great vibe from a alright one js when the games start not going all your way. BTW I don't want to say that these good vibes won't last. Huarbugh has shown that this does continue but the key to me is when a game gets close I want to see them pull a win from one of those games that they used to always lose. I feel like there is a lot of camp speak in which people are saying well the team is best it is ever been but when they need to actually do something when it matters it doesn't happen. I think the story of this team will only be changed by actions. I think they are in a positive direction but I want to see the on feild product before commenting if something has changed.

@@ChargerChatter21 it was a legit terrible night. I consumed ALL the bourbon 🤦

I was out at the bar when I got the news, it’s safe to say I don’t remember a lot of the night

@@kevincurnick I turned on his highlights and cried lol, I’ve watched every game of this career. Still hurts.

It was a sad situation but he made the decision to go get his money and nobody blames him for that. We didn’t win much with him, Mike or Eckeler on the team. Sometimes change is good even if it’s hard.🤷‍♀️👍

My favorite Charger of all time. Gonna to be rough not seeing 13 out there next year.

Do you know where Los Angeles is located in comparison to Baltimore?

​@@lukegarcia867He's saying because the Coaching Staff is basically super similar to Baltimore

@@maskedman5657 he said Ravens "EAST" 🤦🤡

@@lukegarcia867 Ah shit lol I did actually mess it up

I’m absolutely with ya on his impact, but he only played 2-3 games at the beginning of 2023. Not really losing a ton of production

Counterpoints 1. Greg Roman although he sucks at making passing concepts.. He is probably the best run game coordinator in the league. And he doesn't need to design the pass concepts. Jim Harbaugh can. 2.Yeah but no one is predicting they are winning the Superbowl after a regime change on the first season

and they have a bottom 5-10 roster and 0 depth to be fair

​@maskedman5657 contrary to the point while I think this team is going to be better of terms of vibes. I think the lack of a wr room the interior line is the worst in the league and the running back room lacks a lot. Also cornerbacks aren't great. I think they will be in the 7-10 to around at a push 10-7. While yes they got a better culture I think they will still struggle a lot.

The biggest reason is they have no IDL. It's XFL level talent at every DT spot. On the edge, you have Tuli, an aging Mack, and a washed-up Bosa. Oh, and no WRs who are proven or RBs who excite you (maybe Vidal...).

Go look at the entire coaching staff, it's not just Roman leading this offense 🤦🤦🤦

"You can stop asking that question"

Well, What do the stats say?

I will miss the guys who legit took *ACTUAL* minutes of their time to go out of their way to defend him as a HC. Like dragging out some obscure developed coaching metric how Staley contributes to the Chargers wins. Those people were special kind of cornballs.

The verb to Charger is bigger than just Staley.

We are not going to stop making those so do not lament.

@@morganyu812 Go look at the entire offensive staff and you will understand why there is optimism. It's not just Greg Roman by himself. The Chargers hired three position coaches with previous pass game coordinator experience. They have Mark trestman and his 50 years of football experience as an advisor. He's literally just sitting there making sure every pass play has protections and check down options. 🤦 Go ahead and keep judging Greg Roman off Baltimore all you want, This is a completely different situation

New OC comes in and the Raven's front office decided to stockpile the receiver room. makes you wonder what Greg's offseason wish list looked like all those years he was burning up good will

@@kevincurnick No. If you listen to the Rest of Brett's Words... The Receiver Core and O line were a big problem for Roman to work with according to Brett. And yeah I will keep judging him off Baltimore

The disrespect to Josh Palmer is wild.

​@@CreamyPesto505 It's not disrespect. It's literally the truth. Is Josh Palmer even better than Hollywood Brown?

Herbert generally prefers not to run so I can't imagine it's more than one or two designed runs a game.

You're not alone. That's my ceiling for them. They won 10 games and made the playoffs under Staley with essentially the same roster, since all their key players were always injured. Harbaugh was brought in to fix their biggest issues, namely the running game, and defense. If he even gets 50% of that done this year, they're a playoff team.

​@@zackhurwitz9441Well I think their system is gonna be alot different from Staley. He's a vangio guy

@@maskedman5657 there's some carry over between the fangio system, and what they'll be running. But I expect it to be much better, in that the MacDonald branch of that tree prioritizes stopping the run. I'm not expecting anything great from their defense, but Herbert with a running game that can amplify play action, and close out games, should definitely have more people's attention.

That's def not an island. I think our ceiling is the 6/7 seed personally.

Defense may not get its best results until end of October. Minter's scheme isn't anything new (as Brett previously mentioned its a streamlined version of Rex Ryan/Dean Pees blitz packages with simulated pressure looks) but his players on defense may take time to find their identities. Same thing happened to DC MacDonald's first 9 games with the Ravens where coverage wise they were inconsistent. But after the Roquan trade the coverage play was smoother the rest of the season and everyone was able to play their roles well.

Ask a raider fan though and they'll tell you the chargers roster was loaded every year and Tom Telesco had great drafts 🤣🤡💀

⁠​⁠@@kevincurnickno it wasn’t😂😂😂😂 look how many non first round picks they resigned to a second contract😂 only one since Keenan Allen and it was this year😂

@@alex01759 oh I'm aware lol

The biggest issue was that under Telesco out roster was always top heavy. We had great talent at almost every position, but absolutely zero depth. And our strength and conditioning was so terrible that 5 starters would inevitably go down every season. The people replacing them were not good. ​@@kevincurnick

@@CreamyPesto505 funny how everyone knows telesco is ass except for Raider fans 🤣 oh look 👀 Telesco with another first-time head coach. This should work out great right?

Def agree here.

Except that 7-10 would be a big improvement from last year's five wins? 🤣🤦🤡

⁠​⁠@@kevincurnick”big improvement” lol

@@kevincurnickNot when Chargers fans are talking like they’re about to make the playoffs in the most stacked AFC we’ve ever seen lol

​@@danielacker2351You say these things about the Chargers but you haven't looked at their schedule 🤣🤣 The reason there's so much optimism that they can be a playoff team is because they're playing on a fourth place schedule, No Thursday night games, No big major travel issues lol. One score losses usually flip every single year, So with Harbaugh it's easy to predict a couple of those one score losses from last year turn into wins. It has nothing to do with hyping up the team, the roster, the players or anything like that. It's looking at the coaching, The quarterback and the schedule, that's all🤣🤦🤡

@@danielacker2351 going to be 2nd in the division

Cuz it's not college and his impact will be noticeably smaller

@@samwroblewski748 "noticeably smaller" 🤣🤦🤡 what makes people say random crap like this? Apparently bro is in the weight room and has seen the regimen 🤦🤣

Cant believe people are complimenting the chargers. Every year people compliment their off-season moves Welp, guess the chiefs are underdogs again for the 5th year in a row!

You completely missed the point. Making a scheme more simple is a good thing. Having a complicated scheme to understand is a bad thing. Rex Ryan never lasted because he’s long been exposed for being awful. He had an all time great group of talent on his defenses, that got beat by rebuilding patriots teams with actual good schemes.

I mean being a HC also needs more skillsets than just being a DC. If communicating a complicated scheme is difficult enough and needing specific players to make it work, imagine keeping the defensive play caller role *WHILE* having to run the weekly gameplan to explain to the staff and players. And I doubt his ability to delegate the right staff to communicate well was great either. Besides there are plenty of great DC minds (see Dennis Allen) who aren't exactly stand outs as HC roles.

​@@lucrative6477 It's very freaking clear that you did NOT read his comment. Dude are you seriously that obtuse?

​@@lucrative6477If anyone missed the point it was clearly you

Only time will tell, but as a life long Charger fan, est. 1965, I think this draft class could be the best ever.

Was 100% convinced he was never leaving.

That's an interesting hypothesis. We can probably go back to last year and check. The main counter-argument is that the range is given not to point to an average but to give a big picture idea of where a team might go. Brett and EJ seem to be shying away from quantitative analysis and focusing on more subjective, qualitative elements as it makes for more interesting discussion. Cold hard stats don't paint a perfect picture. If they took a more quantiative approach and didn't project best case scenario for each team, averages for non-contending teams would probably be 1-2 wins lower.

The median isn't the mode of their prediction; I'm pretty sure, for example, they're expecting the Chargers to be closer to their floor. That said, you're probably right, lul

@@Uncle_Jamms_Army balance and efficiency is what it's all about. Replace the ineffective 2 yard slot bubbles to Keenan with an effective run and be absolutely deviant with play action. 🤙⚡

@@kbushfm you pretending on KZfaq comments to be a professional gambler is comical all day. Have a look at their schedule smart guy. There's a reason the line is 8.5 🤦🤣🤡

@@kevincurnick yeah because people like you still believe in them despite them giving you nothing to believe in.

@@kevincurnick I said the same thing about their line being at 9.5 last year and heard a lot of the same stuff about what a clown I was. They barely got to half that number

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Ready to lose to the Jags again!

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🤣🤦🤡 found the non ball knower

@@kevincurnick Name the year that didn't happen and you can laugh all you want. I'll wait. "Chargering" didn't become a verb all by itself.

@@RegalEagle1979 you're right. It happened every year over the past 11 with Tom Telesco and a bunch of first-time random head coaches running the team. Is that the case anymore?? Did ownership finally open up their wallets and complete construction on a $250 million facility? Did ownership also open up their wallets and hire the most expensive strength and conditioning coach on the planet? Did they also employ 30 coaches the biggest coaching staff in the league? You don't know ball because you fail to identify all the changes that this organization has made. And you fail to identify all the continuity that this coaching staff has with all the previous working experience with each other. But hey keep commenting on a team you're unfamiliar with and have no knowledge of. Seems pretty smart

@@53Coolness ball knower 🤙⚡👍

2 things, 1: nobody is saying they are going to be a top team or even a playoff contender this year, even Brett and EJ. They explicitly stated that they are excited about this team’s future, not necessarily the present. 2. Bottom 10 talent by what metrics? Sure, they’re not top 10 or anything, but they have a young top 5-10 QB, a young and talented o-line (just needs to stay healthy), the best SS in the league, and the best OLB tandem in the league. There are clear holes at RB, WR, TE, and maybe CB, but all the thing i listed indicate middle-of-the-pack, not 22nd or below