The Chocolate Croissant Controversy

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4 жыл бұрын

A chocolate croissant-is it correct to call it a pain au chocolat or a chocolatine in France? Depends on who you ask. It’s a subject of great debate that’s been addressed by the French Parliament and President Emmanuel Macron. We went straight to the people who bake these delicious pastries for an answer. But even they can’t agree. Nous ne prenons pas parti!
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@tanneisarker9624
@tanneisarker9624 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like both the "chocolatine" and the " pain au chocolate" people would be mad at you calling it a chocolate crossoaint
@Zanimawl
@Zanimawl 4 жыл бұрын
Well it would make more sense to call it a croissant au chocolat, as it is made with the same pastry as a croissant, but it doesn't have the same shape really
@Zanimawl
@Zanimawl 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaiwara2002 It kind of does. You know, croissant, crescent.
@Zanimawl
@Zanimawl 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaiwara2002 Well in that case a shtruddel is also a croissant, and so is the crust of a pie, or a scone.
@Zanimawl
@Zanimawl 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaiwara2002 So it's not just about flakey and buttery then. A croissant is a specific kind of viennoiserie, know for being buttery and flakey, but all viennoiseris that are buttery and flakey are not croissants.
@Zanimawl
@Zanimawl 4 жыл бұрын
@I'm about to end this man's whole career True.
@Cynt3r
@Cynt3r 4 жыл бұрын
Going down to southern France to yell out ”It’s pain au chocolat!” I’ve got nothing toulouse.
@matthewthorpe9641
@matthewthorpe9641 4 жыл бұрын
Cynt3r yesssssssssss
@timber_man940
@timber_man940 4 жыл бұрын
Cynt3r La france est fière de vous, tenez voici une photo de rené Cotty. C'est notre Brahim à nous, c'est donc ton ami .
@Dark-pr3jj
@Dark-pr3jj 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could give you a thousand likes, it was a good laugh
@atikonium
@atikonium 4 жыл бұрын
Someone got shot because of that
@SQERDOMOONLIGHT
@SQERDOMOONLIGHT 4 жыл бұрын
Good. People who say ""chocolatine"" are mentally ill.
@Nabczsz07
@Nabczsz07 4 жыл бұрын
The French people: protesting The French parliament: Debates over pastry
@Temulgeh
@Temulgeh 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly that's pretty much what's been happening in France for a while
@kylenetherwood8734
@kylenetherwood8734 4 жыл бұрын
Let them eat cake
@maxim6088
@maxim6088 4 жыл бұрын
I mean ... Maybe if the government was so busy making pastry, there would be less protests
@louise_820
@louise_820 4 жыл бұрын
As a French person I don't think anyone really takes this issue seriously, it's more of a running joke.
@origamiandcats6873
@origamiandcats6873 4 жыл бұрын
First world problems.
@DragonFanngg
@DragonFanngg 3 жыл бұрын
As a foreigner who speaks French, I'd ask for a "pain au chocolat" in the south and a "chocolatine" up in the North and see the horror on their faces.
@KenNakajima07
@KenNakajima07 3 жыл бұрын
When it stops being fun let's start asking for Croissant du chocolat
@rajanlad
@rajanlad 3 жыл бұрын
They will beat us with their baguette traditionnelle.
@nfspbarrister5681
@nfspbarrister5681 3 жыл бұрын
.....you really wants to see the french comes back into napoleonic ways aren't you, satan?
@zazi5094
@zazi5094 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, kiddie me in France was like "coco croissant!".... What's worse is that I am half English...😳👌
@Kevinthelast
@Kevinthelast 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see some people still watching GBS even though it has closed it's doors.
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 4 жыл бұрын
STOP I could've dropped my croissant
@aquaabouttogetfunky
@aquaabouttogetfunky 4 жыл бұрын
Avery the Cuban-American *Insert laughter*
@mcbonkin3091
@mcbonkin3091 4 жыл бұрын
AaH *_StAwP I CoULd'Ve DrOWpEd MaH CrOiSsUntS_*
@localextremist2839
@localextremist2839 4 жыл бұрын
I DROPPED MY CWACUNTS
@mcbonkin3091
@mcbonkin3091 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the Jimmy Neutron Meme "Quasson"
@honestabe5153
@honestabe5153 4 жыл бұрын
Ffs
@RonanCav
@RonanCav 4 жыл бұрын
Northern France: Pain au Chocolat! Southern France: Chocolatine! Everywhere else: chocolate 𝒸𝓌𝒶𝓈𝓈𝑜𝓃𝓉
@Emirates1598
@Emirates1598 4 жыл бұрын
In Mexico it's "chocolatín" 😅
@jmlepunk
@jmlepunk 4 жыл бұрын
In the UK they all say "pain au chocolat"
@notyourdrugdealer4684
@notyourdrugdealer4684 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan H I guess I’m not in the UK anymore
@Lucien-dx8rd
@Lucien-dx8rd 4 жыл бұрын
Switzerland: pain au chocolat
@anna-lenajanzen2638
@anna-lenajanzen2638 4 жыл бұрын
It’s literally just the US
@Qeengish
@Qeengish 4 жыл бұрын
That’s like asking Americans “is it pop or soda?”
@champagneproblems1692
@champagneproblems1692 4 жыл бұрын
Nichole Vasquez SODA
@Lucas-ho9hj
@Lucas-ho9hj 4 жыл бұрын
Pop 100%
@cutienerdgirl
@cutienerdgirl 4 жыл бұрын
Just like with Chocolatine, only a small amount of Americans say "pop" when referring to soda.
@visionsofpromise
@visionsofpromise 4 жыл бұрын
I just ask for fizzy sugar water
@carlyfallon6304
@carlyfallon6304 4 жыл бұрын
It's the cool/soft drink debate is Australia
@Nartorz
@Nartorz 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, i live in Toulouse and here are some explanations. Chocolatine comes from the Occitan (South West french regional language, also spoken in north Italy and Spain) word "Chocolatina" which means "little chocolate" (-ina = feminine little). So chocolatine is just an old translated "patois" (dialect, slang) word. Since french people are very proud and tied with their regional culture, people from South West (especialy people from Bordeaux and Toulouse) use it to distinguish themself from people living in in the capital. So chocolatine is part of cultural heritage. There is no debate, both word can be used, and loosing one of them would be sad for french language.
@SamBs
@SamBs 3 жыл бұрын
Au Québec on utilise Chocolatine donc vous avez au moins triompher à l'extérieur du pays
@sayorray906
@sayorray906 4 жыл бұрын
I was searching about French Revolution.I guess this fits the description.
@honestabe5153
@honestabe5153 4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@milasandersen7027
@milasandersen7027 4 жыл бұрын
in my next there is that video he is awasome
@larrydahomie2823
@larrydahomie2823 4 жыл бұрын
VIVA LA CHOCOLAT
@julesescargueil9076
@julesescargueil9076 4 жыл бұрын
I'm french et je pleure de rire en lisant ça x)
@ghostphoto1789
@ghostphoto1789 4 жыл бұрын
it is kind of crazy to think that a couple hundred years before this video people were being guillotined in the fucking streets
@sayorray906
@sayorray906 4 жыл бұрын
My Country's Parliament:Hunger!Poverty!Economy! Meanwhile in the French Parliament:Pain Au Chocolat vs Chocolatine.
@sagebell6629
@sagebell6629 4 жыл бұрын
and my American government: no immigrants! make america great again! build a wall!
@torchgirl7401
@torchgirl7401 4 жыл бұрын
Simply Sage 😂 our country is fucked up
@poopityscoop6398
@poopityscoop6398 4 жыл бұрын
Simply Sage you idiot trump isn’t saying that he doesn’t want any immigrants in America, he’s saying he doesn’t want ILLEGAL immigrants in America. This is coming from a Filipino immigrant
@tonyshu6052
@tonyshu6052 4 жыл бұрын
it's obvious that the French parliament has got their priorities right, who cares about the economy or the living quality of the citizens? as long as you know what to call a chocolate croissant your country has got their priorities right
@feliciamartin9771
@feliciamartin9771 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonyshu6052 Lol, so just a few seconds is enaugh for you to judge the entire gouvernement
@lienson430
@lienson430 4 жыл бұрын
People debating over pastry is the most French thing I ever seen
@antoineminjoz8318
@antoineminjoz8318 4 жыл бұрын
French people in 1776 : Hey let's help out those American guys in their independance war, they seem like nice fellas. Americans in 2019 : "chocolate croissant" French people : WHAT HAVE WE DONE !?
@bruhmoment7931
@bruhmoment7931 3 жыл бұрын
Ultimate betrayal
@tsaqifammarsakti7825
@tsaqifammarsakti7825 3 жыл бұрын
I like chocolate croissant
@kyleterry5190
@kyleterry5190 3 жыл бұрын
And they even pronounce it as "croysantt"
@Wickedonezz
@Wickedonezz 3 жыл бұрын
The French didn't care about America
@jonpaul3868
@jonpaul3868 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wickedonezz yeahh.. say that for lady liberty, a symbol of France favor in the US Rebel against England.
@AngiePup
@AngiePup 4 жыл бұрын
These subtitles really help me understand what they were saying in french! Of course! They were all saying "a foreign language"!
@jauxro
@jauxro 4 жыл бұрын
Yeeaaah someone needs to tell them it's ok to leave the KZfaq subtitles blank if _they're blocking the subtitles on the actual video_
@Mido-lh4qn
@Mido-lh4qn 4 жыл бұрын
nah I understand french so they obstruct the actual video for me
@srf9865
@srf9865 4 жыл бұрын
the auto-captions are more helpful than the real captions Lmao
@sevencats4964
@sevencats4964 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was really bothering me
@IAR97
@IAR97 4 жыл бұрын
Yass, i was frustated 😂
@mine_neko
@mine_neko 4 жыл бұрын
Sincerely speaking I've never heard of "chocolatine" until today...
@kalechips3216
@kalechips3216 4 жыл бұрын
yeah but like if youre a foreigner what do you think? its mentioned in the video.
@adonaiyah2196
@adonaiyah2196 4 жыл бұрын
@@kalechips3216 I'm a foreigner and in my country they're very popular and they are called pain au chocolat
@newzinski6946
@newzinski6946 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've been to other countries and it's even written as pain au chocolat or pain du/de chocolat.
@lindseyliu2251
@lindseyliu2251 4 жыл бұрын
Same o.o
@Aravzil
@Aravzil 4 жыл бұрын
@@adonaiyah2196 Glad to see your country is on the right side :)) Jk Idgaf really, as long as they are made properly I'm good.
@one_smol_duck
@one_smol_duck 4 жыл бұрын
Great Big Story: *interviews people across France about the correct terminology for a chocolatine/pain au chocolat* Also Great Big Story: *titles video The Great Chocolate Croissant Controversy*
@OatmealGrillBlazer
@OatmealGrillBlazer 4 жыл бұрын
In some parts of the US they call it chocolate bread or chocolate croissant
@bobbiusshadow6985
@bobbiusshadow6985 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but is it "pop" or "soda"?
@normalhuman78-53
@normalhuman78-53 4 жыл бұрын
Laura I think they did it as to not pick a side
@theonlyhassanelahlou
@theonlyhassanelahlou 3 жыл бұрын
YEAAAH wtf
@howdareyou41
@howdareyou41 3 жыл бұрын
That's because that's the American English translation. If it was titled 'chocolatine or pain au chocolat'' no one in America would know what it means. Should it be the literal translation? Chocolate Bread?
@kalanaherath3076
@kalanaherath3076 4 жыл бұрын
Britain has Brexit, World has Global Warming USA has a hurricane... *MEANWHILE IN FRANCE:*
@Phantastically
@Phantastically 4 жыл бұрын
underrated comment :P
@splogxyz3339
@splogxyz3339 3 жыл бұрын
are you implying that france is not on earth
@muhammadhafizhfirdaus8344
@muhammadhafizhfirdaus8344 3 жыл бұрын
*the pastry war*
@raynemichelle2996
@raynemichelle2996 3 жыл бұрын
Comment was clearly before global pandemic
@steppenfuchs5608
@steppenfuchs5608 3 жыл бұрын
@@splogxyz3339 yes. France is other worldly. Do you know someone from France? No? Ever been to France? No? If you answered yes to any of these questions you are just part of the conspiracy lying to the public. Just like this video. France does not exist!
@thebigsad9463
@thebigsad9463 4 жыл бұрын
Brace yourselves, the war of the chocolate croissant is coming soon
@thereconracoon3715
@thereconracoon3715 4 жыл бұрын
Many casualties
@henrytran3896
@henrytran3896 4 жыл бұрын
Who will surrender first
@thereconracoon3715
@thereconracoon3715 4 жыл бұрын
@@henrytran3896 my tastebuds
@AD-jq7ow
@AD-jq7ow 4 жыл бұрын
Only americans call it that way
@kylem1112
@kylem1112 4 жыл бұрын
@@AD-jq7ow or anyone who speaks english. it's a fucking croissant with chocolate in it. chocolate croissant. not everyone speak french. but way more people speak english
@flastnm5551
@flastnm5551 4 жыл бұрын
This issue is "pain" au le butt.
@Hannah-dd6bo
@Hannah-dd6bo 4 жыл бұрын
F LastNm clever
@andicarusfell8387
@andicarusfell8387 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏽
@75yomu
@75yomu 4 жыл бұрын
@Soham Sharma r/whoooosh
@januzairamli4426
@januzairamli4426 4 жыл бұрын
Noah fence but that was a bad pun
@Hannah-dd6bo
@Hannah-dd6bo 4 жыл бұрын
Januzai Ramli THATS what makes you monotonously slap your knee
@kingdmind
@kingdmind 4 жыл бұрын
1:43 Ah yes, chocolatine tastes like chocolatine
@chikinwings9872
@chikinwings9872 4 жыл бұрын
Ah oui, le français est fait de français.
@ira6605
@ira6605 3 жыл бұрын
@@shivanisharma8559 r/woooosh
@yumiamiyumi4181
@yumiamiyumi4181 3 жыл бұрын
@@shivanisharma8559 wdym?
@rahmat4848
@rahmat4848 3 жыл бұрын
@@yumiamiyumi4181 weev
@rahmat4848
@rahmat4848 3 жыл бұрын
@@yumiamiyumi4181 weeb
@p.pinchelette2909
@p.pinchelette2909 4 жыл бұрын
In México there's a northern vs southern debate whether "quesadillas" need to have cheese.
@elendil6144
@elendil6144 4 жыл бұрын
That is actually hilarious 😂
@chrash2012
@chrash2012 4 жыл бұрын
Los quesadillas llevan quesos
@yaxcis
@yaxcis 4 жыл бұрын
: )
@justtheletterV274
@justtheletterV274 4 жыл бұрын
Preston Pinchelette I’m not Mexican and for the 119 million residents of Mexico, cheese and other optional items between 2 tortilla quesadilla, queso is in the name, queso is cheese, therefore, Quesadillas NEED to have cheese. Otherwise, it’s just flat pan / tortilla with other pieces of whatever being dry of cheese.
@shayne-1880
@shayne-1880 4 жыл бұрын
As an American, I don’t really understand how a quesadilla could NOT have cheese.... I mean queso is in the name
@STAROMEGA54
@STAROMEGA54 4 жыл бұрын
Man i wish this was the only thing people argue about, then after 5 minutes there like let's just eat the damn thing.😚😋🥐🍫
@CynBH
@CynBH 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't last 5 minutes 😂
@rosegold973
@rosegold973 4 жыл бұрын
That would be a perfect world.. if we only argued about croissants 😔
@ylvajade8035
@ylvajade8035 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly it looks so good
@kokonana4086
@kokonana4086 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, imagine the coming French civil war with those chocolate croissant cannons throwing around. Gonna be a Great Patisserie War indeed.
@mcf5170
@mcf5170 4 жыл бұрын
munu numu I would love that too! Yeyyyy happy so much!!! 😁🥳😁🥳
@Arsen4155
@Arsen4155 4 жыл бұрын
I would happy to go to that war
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 4 жыл бұрын
munu numu "Do you hear the people sing?/Singing the song of chocolatine..."
@whitehorizon2225
@whitehorizon2225 4 жыл бұрын
There is an actual french war called the Pastry War. It started when a French Immigrant in Mexico had his bakery vandalised by Mexican revolutionaries and appealed to France for help. France responded by invading and gaining monetary reparations.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. It left 127 dead. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastry_War
@TheGamr81
@TheGamr81 4 жыл бұрын
Normal people: different dialects exist and different people call things different things The french: what we call chocolate croissants deserves political debate
@jamersbazuka8055
@jamersbazuka8055 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, the Academie Française is an institution made for the purpose of language regulation. Another thing they've regulated is how much non-French music is allowed on French radio stations. I'm glad I speak both English and French, so I can either be liberal or pedantic in my word usage and reliably find validation with either group.
@unculturedswine5583
@unculturedswine5583 4 жыл бұрын
​@@jamersbazuka8055 You have an odd priority there lol
@paridhi_d9167
@paridhi_d9167 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's such a simple thing and idk why is it even being debated! I mean food, clothes, festivals etc. can have different names in different parts of the country!
@knightbot23
@knightbot23 3 жыл бұрын
@Amel Bougrouz and even the fries vs chips debate and the soccer vs football debate which is just weird especially the soccer vs football like everyone in EU thinks that only USA says it but my country says soccer than football
@alexandersakhnenko3150
@alexandersakhnenko3150 3 жыл бұрын
@@paridhi_d9167 not in France. They have very strict language policy, and they supress dialects like occitan for more than a 100 years
@canadianwifi2903
@canadianwifi2903 3 жыл бұрын
In Quebec we say Chocolatine as well, you can’t imagine how triggered I was when I read chocolate croissant
@ScutoidStudios
@ScutoidStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Opinion on "pain au chocolate"
@antoinegx-9185
@antoinegx-9185 Жыл бұрын
@@ScutoidStudios Terroriste !
@davidb5205
@davidb5205 4 жыл бұрын
*Northerners:* "Pain au Chocolat" *Southerners:* "Chocolatine" *Foreigners:* "cRoiSSaNt" (even though it isn't crescent-shaped at all)
@cettechaineestcloture.1351
@cettechaineestcloture.1351 4 жыл бұрын
in morroco, we call it "Petit pain"
@jaredchauncey1259
@jaredchauncey1259 4 жыл бұрын
Foreigners: Chocolate croissant (What it's called in the US.)( The French bakery even says it's croissant dough)
@nathanieltabernersmith2328
@nathanieltabernersmith2328 4 жыл бұрын
anyone who calls it a chocolate croissant is a wrongun. in England we call it pain au chocolate
@Udontkno7
@Udontkno7 4 жыл бұрын
Same bread. So, why not? American English was made to be simple and direct.
@Charlzton
@Charlzton 4 жыл бұрын
@@Udontkno7 a Paris Brest is made with choux pastry but that doesn't mean you call it a profiterole lol
@gibson1005
@gibson1005 4 жыл бұрын
As a french guy, calling it a chocolate croissant is just the worst
@gibson1005
@gibson1005 4 жыл бұрын
@DikoMan Well no thats just dumb. You already use the french word croissant, why not use the french word pain au chocolat or chocolatine? In france we call a burger burger, not sandwich à la viande hachée
@isaz597
@isaz597 4 жыл бұрын
Yes blame the arrogant Americans they're stuck in their ways to call everything as they wish.
@RodolfoGeriatra
@RodolfoGeriatra 4 жыл бұрын
@@gibson1005 who the hell cares?
@gibson1005
@gibson1005 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaiwara2002 chocolatine then ;)
@gibson1005
@gibson1005 4 жыл бұрын
@@RodolfoGeriatra all the people that cares about artisans work. Imagine, you spend 40 hours shaping your chocolatine with skills passed down from generation to generation, and a fucking muricaman comes in and ask : "hello french guy, give me a chocolate croissant", what an insult
@chikinwings9872
@chikinwings9872 4 жыл бұрын
People who don't speak french: Pain au Chocolatine and it's done! All the french people: *Ça ne marche paaaaaas* !!!
@CanMav
@CanMav 3 жыл бұрын
The ensuing riots would make the storming of the Bastille look like a picnic.
@adsjsh
@adsjsh 3 жыл бұрын
thats just the bread of the pastry, not even the chocolate.... pain au chocolatine - bread of 'chocolate crossiant'
@QuantumDeathCat
@QuantumDeathCat 3 жыл бұрын
Here in quebec its known as chocolatine funny enough, though im not sure if it is everywhere or just in the montreal area
@valentin9261
@valentin9261 3 жыл бұрын
@@QuantumDeathCat LE SUD-OUEST A CONQUIS L'AMÉRIQUE DU NORD, CRAIGNEZ-NOUS PARIGOTS! Mdr
@raynemichelle2996
@raynemichelle2996 3 жыл бұрын
@@QuantumDeathCat it's even called chocolatine en Colombie-Britannique.
@saintcel51
@saintcel51 4 жыл бұрын
omg the language sounds so pretty when that guy is speaking it the “pain au chocolat” guy
@caseycostello4357
@caseycostello4357 4 жыл бұрын
Speak English like Jesus did - Jim Gaffigan
@stargirlxx457
@stargirlxx457 4 жыл бұрын
@@caseycostello4357 pfft*-
@cv6930
@cv6930 4 жыл бұрын
Well we can all agree it's not chocolate croissant like the title says
@isaz597
@isaz597 4 жыл бұрын
"muricans" 👀
@HotaruChuu
@HotaruChuu 4 жыл бұрын
Actually it is. That's the original name, that French people couldn't pronounce as it came from Austria, so chocolate croissant became chocolatine. Pain au chocolat only came later and became more popular!
@HotaruChuu
@HotaruChuu 4 жыл бұрын
@decembrist yes. That's the direct translation of schokoladencroissants, originated from Vienna. So technically the English interpretation is ironically closer to the first appellation. But you call them pain of chocolat so i wouldn't expect you to know the history of it :)
@HotaruChuu
@HotaruChuu 4 жыл бұрын
@decembrist i literally said they originated from Austria. That's how they were called there. They were called chocolate croissant because they're croissant (made of the same pastry, same dough, same technique) + chocolate. You're calling it pain au chocolat and it ain't bread so if you're going by that logic chocolate croissant shouldn't be a problem. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@TheSpecialJ11
@TheSpecialJ11 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, the dough used is most commonly found in America as a croissant. Hence Americans calling it a "chocolate croissant".
@LoudPackNapLife
@LoudPackNapLife 4 жыл бұрын
Chocolatine: 1.10 Pain au chocolat: 1.20 I aint French, but I know which team I'm backing
@DaxMicro
@DaxMicro 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen bakeries with pain au chocolat at 1.10 or cheaper.
@alexandragatto
@alexandragatto 4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense that Paris would be slightly more expensive than Toulouse imo
@vox__ama6458
@vox__ama6458 4 жыл бұрын
Im pain au chocolat all the way
@shashachuu
@shashachuu 4 жыл бұрын
I live about 170km away from Paris (Orléans, to be more precise Saran) pain au chocolat are sold at 0.90€ there, there's even a bakery that is selling 4 of them for 1€ on mondays. It depends on where you live.
@PrScandium
@PrScandium 4 жыл бұрын
Ok everyone shut up The joke was quite witty and easy to get, everyone got the point. Stop arguing about the price and let's take a moment to validate this humorous comment And now repeat after me PAIN AU CHOCOLAT
@YU_meineLiebe
@YU_meineLiebe 3 жыл бұрын
OMG!Now I understand whats the meaning of the look I got everytime I was asking:"Do you have a chocolate croissant" at the French pastry!Even my French friend couldnt understand what I want until I show her the pastry! I thought it was my pronounciation of "croissant" that was making the French misunderstood me.😅
@sci-facts3895
@sci-facts3895 3 жыл бұрын
French people : chocolatine ou pain au chocolat ? Me, Belgian : Couque au chocolat
@gravitydood1554
@gravitydood1554 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god, what next? Septante instead of soixante-dix?
@ldub0775
@ldub0775 3 жыл бұрын
@@gravitydood1554 sixty
@PG-3462
@PG-3462 3 жыл бұрын
In Quebec we say chocolatine
@nfspbarrister5681
@nfspbarrister5681 3 жыл бұрын
This is why french people hates you, belgians.
@dimitridan8112
@dimitridan8112 4 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD' this debate is everywhere here in France, and I'm glad foreigners can finally understand what all the mess is about
@jasonk7675
@jasonk7675 4 жыл бұрын
it's pretty silly tbh, it's the same thing just with different names. not something that should involve politicians.
@jasonk7675
@jasonk7675 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nevir202 conservative, traditional people who want to preserve a tradition will fight to their death for it.
@BagoPorkRinds
@BagoPorkRinds 4 жыл бұрын
No worries, here in the states, we got a chicken sandwich civil war going on.
@SQERDOMOONLIGHT
@SQERDOMOONLIGHT 4 жыл бұрын
They will not understand though. It's also a huge metaphor for the huge growingly battle between farmland southerners who feel ignored vs the paris elite city folk
@kichaa13
@kichaa13 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nevir202 well its definitely not a croissant
@mdimasraditya8492
@mdimasraditya8492 4 жыл бұрын
why not just say it "pain au chocolatine"?
@brotaytohpotato4272
@brotaytohpotato4272 4 жыл бұрын
*_truuuuuuuueeee_*
@cops055
@cops055 4 жыл бұрын
Dimas Raditya not grammatically correct
@colinouille2786
@colinouille2786 4 жыл бұрын
so basically, pain au chocolat is bread with fucking chocolate in it, and chocolatine is not fucking bread
@visionsofpromise
@visionsofpromise 4 жыл бұрын
@@colinouille2786 that's why theres the word pain which means bread. And it wouldn't be a literal meaning anyway. It would just be a merger of the term from both regions
@oreo3351
@oreo3351 4 жыл бұрын
🤯🤯🤯
@kiatsikuya4137
@kiatsikuya4137 4 жыл бұрын
Doctor: how painful is it? Frenchman: pain au chocolate
@zainhaq
@zainhaq 3 жыл бұрын
LOL im way too late but still
@KenNakajima07
@KenNakajima07 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, that's enjoyable pain then! what a relief!
@Dannybythebanana
@Dannybythebanana 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in America West + East Coast: SODA! North: POP! South: COKE!
@pastelpopgacha4815
@pastelpopgacha4815 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in the south I can confirm this- or Dr. Pepper, depends where you are
@RinCooks
@RinCooks 4 жыл бұрын
Soda. Coke is just confusing.
@studytea374
@studytea374 4 жыл бұрын
I assume everyone in America calls it Soda, idk why?
@S3lvah
@S3lvah 4 жыл бұрын
Me, an intellectual: "pointless obesity inflicter"
@matheusdumont2019
@matheusdumont2019 4 жыл бұрын
me: turns on english subs to understand better because im not native subs: covers english subs in the french parts with "(in foreign language)"
@provenxreaperx
@provenxreaperx 4 жыл бұрын
UK hit by brexit trouble. Meanwhile in France: full on chocoLate war
@terrymacd2310
@terrymacd2310 4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. British Parliament in tatters & the French are deadlocked on pastry. C'est la vie. C'est la guerre.
@erinlee5936
@erinlee5936 4 жыл бұрын
I thought there was a butter war as well. Or was that in Northern Europe?
@provenxreaperx
@provenxreaperx 4 жыл бұрын
Erin Lee Yes, Norwegians need to have their share of crisis also 😅, No butter no cake, no cake = crisis
@scythal
@scythal 4 жыл бұрын
Chocolatine vs Pain au chocolat - basically the same thing when you eat it! Bon appetit!
@pranavkhandekar4046
@pranavkhandekar4046 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the story... Really nice
@alexkas1150
@alexkas1150 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, me, a Belgian: Couque au chocolat
@Wendyadores
@Wendyadores 3 жыл бұрын
Alex Kas!!! 🤣 J'adore ❤️
@superresistant0
@superresistant0 3 жыл бұрын
ah je connaissais pas celui là
@cookie.lover007
@cookie.lover007 4 жыл бұрын
In Sweden, it is literally like so: "Pain au chocolat". It has never been translated! And in Quebec, we call it chocolatine 🥰!
@boly6275
@boly6275 4 жыл бұрын
Ta l’air cave si tu dit pain au chocolat at Quebec
@nottheone582
@nottheone582 4 жыл бұрын
Of course Quebec always have to be difficult 😂
@Bunny-ch2ul
@Bunny-ch2ul 4 жыл бұрын
I'd only ever heard it called "Chocolatine" in Quebec. I thought it was Canadian French. I lived in Paris for a year and a half and ate a LOT of pastry, and had never heard it called that before. I feel like when it comes to French, Paris is always right. Everywhere else is wrong. LOL.
@shashachuu
@shashachuu 4 жыл бұрын
Boly Pas forcément.. Mon ex petite amie qui était québécoise (venant de Sherbrooke) disait chocolatine alors que mes autres amis québécois disaient pain au chocolat. Ça dépend de l'endroit où tu te trouves, je pense, exactement comme en France!
@sbel6626
@sbel6626 4 жыл бұрын
Justement, c’est pas que la France qui parle français! Faut prendre les francophones internationaux en considération aussi
@vitorkk328
@vitorkk328 4 жыл бұрын
In Brazil we have a very similar discussion about cookies and other baked goods: "Is it biscoito or is it bolacha". People take it serious as heck, I've seen obsessed debates over and over
@faken6252
@faken6252 4 жыл бұрын
The great chocolate bread apartheit (France 2019, colourised)
@charlesandrieux6951
@charlesandrieux6951 3 жыл бұрын
when I go to the bakers in the morning in Paris, always pain au chocolat. but once went to Royan in the south and asked for a pain au chocolat, they replied ''you mean a chocolatine?" so its true its so funny
@paystation4pro15
@paystation4pro15 4 жыл бұрын
This is the most French thing ever
@someone1903
@someone1903 4 жыл бұрын
i saw no white flags...
@P0k3D0nd3M4cG
@P0k3D0nd3M4cG 4 жыл бұрын
@@someone1903 too soon m8
@willb3368
@willb3368 4 жыл бұрын
ur all wrong. the proper title is actually: "Puffy French Pastery Crausant Thing With Chocolate On The Inside That Tastes Good, And I'll Have Coffee Too Please." Debate Over. :)
@Skadi609
@Skadi609 4 жыл бұрын
If only😂. Till my last breath I'll say pain au chocolat😁
@fifthseas0n
@fifthseas0n 4 жыл бұрын
American version: “Carmel” or “caramel”
@blahblahblah6810
@blahblahblah6810 4 жыл бұрын
Carmel all the way Fight me
@b1ff
@b1ff 4 жыл бұрын
The sugary confection is spelled the latter, with three syllables: caramel. It is not pronounced _any_ other way, _at all._ “Carmel” is some Mount out in the mountain ranges of Israel, and a name for a bunch of cities in the US & CA.
@killzmeded
@killzmeded 4 жыл бұрын
Except not at all the same
@morrius0757
@morrius0757 4 жыл бұрын
Carmel is how I pronounce it.
@N4rkoza
@N4rkoza 4 жыл бұрын
Morrius07 its caramel
@conitodhelado1148
@conitodhelado1148 4 жыл бұрын
Northern France: Pain au Chocolate Southern France: Chocolatine Spain: Chocolate Napolitan (Napolitana de chocolate)
@LF-hj8kk
@LF-hj8kk 4 жыл бұрын
that's soooo wrong
@bmms00
@bmms00 4 жыл бұрын
in portugal we say that too!
@Joostuh
@Joostuh 3 жыл бұрын
NL; Chocoladebroodje👌 Not to be confused with “een broodje chocolade”
@torsten2705
@torsten2705 4 жыл бұрын
I eat those things everyday when I work so fk good
@supermuffinbros4797
@supermuffinbros4797 4 жыл бұрын
"Pain au chocolat" is french for "chocolate bread". "Chocolatine" is an original name for a fairly unique pastry. (with it's two pieces of chocolate and it's buttery flavor) The debate comes from if the pastry of this controversy is popular enough to be recognised only by the pretty broad term of "chocolate bread", or if it's popularity makes it deserving of a completely original name. That name being "chocolatine" due to it being the first BIG alternative to "pain au chocolat". I personally think the latter as I feel like "pain au chocolat" was just supposed to be a placeholder name because the bakers had no inspiration to create a name for a pastry that would 'most likely never catch on anyway'. Its only when people realized that money was to be made by stealing the formula and rebranding it to something more catchy that other names were made. ("chocolatine" being the one to steal the spotlight in the end)
@chikinwings9872
@chikinwings9872 4 жыл бұрын
U speak french?
@supermuffinbros4797
@supermuffinbros4797 4 жыл бұрын
@@chikinwings9872 Yes I do.
@chikinwings9872
@chikinwings9872 4 жыл бұрын
@@supermuffinbros4797 Très bien!
@kenanwisaksenahudawan4271
@kenanwisaksenahudawan4271 3 жыл бұрын
15 years old girl nowaday be like: "Love is like pain au chocolat, but the au chocolate is silent".
@skymox3956
@skymox3956 Жыл бұрын
You have no idea how many friendships this debate detroyed
@babadook2493
@babadook2493 4 жыл бұрын
In Québec we say chocolatine A «pain au chocolat» is bread with chocolate spread
@Zanimawl
@Zanimawl 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, i don't think québecquois get to decide what french words mean mate.
@boly6275
@boly6275 4 жыл бұрын
Oui au quebec c’est chocolatine et ta l’aire cave si tu dit pain au chocolat
@sismeo1
@sismeo1 4 жыл бұрын
Le Québec se doit de rester neutre dans ce débat.....Peut être? Parce qu'a Montréal, les hérétiques de croissant Plus vendent DES CROISSANTS AU CHOCOLAT!!!!!!!!!!
@sismeo1
@sismeo1 4 жыл бұрын
@baerleon wow, all this frustration for a joke? The war of "le croissant" is on!
@DaxMicro
@DaxMicro 4 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between UN pain au chocolat and DU pain au chocolat.
@VeralBoni
@VeralBoni 4 жыл бұрын
This has to be the sweetest and most adorable debate I ever heard!
@hirumayoichi21
@hirumayoichi21 4 жыл бұрын
It’s good that the most debated matter is about the name of a pastry
@johnscanlan9335
@johnscanlan9335 4 жыл бұрын
Growing up in NYC I always knew this delicious pastry as a pain automatically chocolat and this is the very first time I've ever heard the word chocolatine. Now that I've heard this alternative name I think I like it more!
@LouisR-C
@LouisR-C 4 жыл бұрын
What all french people like me agree on is not calling it a "chocolate croissant". Just reading the title made me mad :)
@jpaxonreyes
@jpaxonreyes 4 жыл бұрын
I would argue that, for most of us in the US, the word "croissant" refers more to the puff pastry than it does to the shape (much like the word "circus" no longer refers to a circle but a spectacular show). In that same vain, we have bread products shaped like crescents that we'd call crescent rolls rather than croissants because the dough isn't puffy and crisp.
@SuperOtter
@SuperOtter 4 жыл бұрын
tbh we have this debate in the Netherlands. some people call it a chocoladecroissant (chocolate croissant) and some people call it chocoladebroodje (chocolate bread/pain du chocolat). we both know that the first groups are morrons
@Zveebo
@Zveebo 4 жыл бұрын
Is "chocolate croissant" a US thing? In the UK it's always a pain au chocolate.
@jpaxonreyes
@jpaxonreyes 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zveebo - Looks like they're chocolate croissant in New Zealand and Australia, some South American countries, and a few European countries as well. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_au_chocolat But, to be fair to the US, many places here don't sell them as "chocolate croissants" but rather "pain au chocolat". We just commonly refer to them as a chocolate croissant. For example, I'll ask my girlfriend if she wants a chocolate croissant as well, and then at the counter I'll ask for two pains au chocolat.
@Zveebo
@Zveebo 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Reyes Interesting. I have had a chocolate croissant in the UK, but it was literally a crescent-shapes croissant with chocolate in it!
@LOSTTEMPLAR
@LOSTTEMPLAR 4 жыл бұрын
Get 100 of their best costumers, but them in medieval armour and have them fight while the two store owners command the soldiers and fight too. Whomever side wins would be the official name.
@BrendadirkCramplescrunch
@BrendadirkCramplescrunch 4 жыл бұрын
When in doubt, just point at the pastry and smile
@KJR_Van
@KJR_Van 3 жыл бұрын
yall need to do a video on the classic pork roll vs taylor ham new jersey debate
@felipealvesdourado1584
@felipealvesdourado1584 4 жыл бұрын
Same fight here: Biscoito X Bolacha Greetings from Brazil ;*
@fh6560
@fh6560 4 жыл бұрын
I don't care what people say this is so interesting(and probably one of the most innocent feud/debate I've seen)
@armytastic6592
@armytastic6592 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao I died when I saw the parliaments debating over what to call it 💀
@kishens1
@kishens1 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video
@ZaxorVonSkyler
@ZaxorVonSkyler 4 жыл бұрын
It's like the great pop vs soda debate in the us!
@momentary_
@momentary_ 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget those weird people in the southwest that call every carbonated drink a coke or those weird people on the east coast that call everything a soft drink.
@svscrib8922
@svscrib8922 4 жыл бұрын
Zaxor Von Skyler there is no debate it is sODA periodt
@aidanwilcox5261
@aidanwilcox5261 4 жыл бұрын
As a french I can conform battles have been fought about this topic
@isabeladuleba810
@isabeladuleba810 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like every country has its own version of this rivalry. In Brazil it’s biscoito vs bolacha (which means cookie)
@orangiseng3155
@orangiseng3155 3 жыл бұрын
French : pain au chocolat American : pain in the a*s
@suicidalbanananana
@suicidalbanananana 4 жыл бұрын
Great Big Story just made this whole thing worse by calling both Chocolate Croissant while thats a different pastry.
@marioriccardopro
@marioriccardopro 4 жыл бұрын
It's the same in Sicily, everywhere ARANCINO and in Palermo ARANCINA )))
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, that pastry was invented by an Austrian baker in the 19th century. He called it Schokoladen Croissant. The French transformed schokoladen into chocolatine. So chocolatine is the original name, historically.
@BedroomPianist
@BedroomPianist Жыл бұрын
AHA! Chocolate croissant is the correct phrase
@K1LD3R
@K1LD3R 3 жыл бұрын
too bad these videos arent longer
@OLGMC
@OLGMC 4 жыл бұрын
world: has problems meanwhile politics in France: should we call this pastery pain au chocolate or chocolatine?
@kingkammo6139
@kingkammo6139 4 жыл бұрын
Sad
@Jack-ri5wm
@Jack-ri5wm 4 жыл бұрын
With all the violence and death and dumb stuff in the world This genuinely made me smile a bit Just because it’s so ridiculous I love it #teamchocolatine
@taz.6057
@taz.6057 3 жыл бұрын
#teamchocolatine
@5MinutePsychology
@5MinutePsychology 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a very pleasant topic! To all who are struggling with anxiety caused by COVID: these little stories, they give us a few moments of blissful happiness. Allow yourself time for that!
@rudyspective1870
@rudyspective1870 3 жыл бұрын
Okay how about this- where was the pastry first made, Southern or Northern France?
@cptn_n3m012
@cptn_n3m012 3 жыл бұрын
Its France. No one knows. The pastry have been there before humans.
@homoxid3406
@homoxid3406 4 жыл бұрын
The definition of first world problems
@miyounova
@miyounova 4 жыл бұрын
The definition of not understanding this is not an actual debate but mainly humour.
@claireindigo1200
@claireindigo1200 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@MoxieBeast
@MoxieBeast 4 жыл бұрын
Chocolatine have rights too!
@R2k2
@R2k2 3 жыл бұрын
We have a similar discussion in the Netherlands about French fries / chips: The northern part of our country calls it : "Patat", (pronounced somewhat as "Pah - Taht"), and the southern half calls it : "Friet", (pronounced somewhat as "freed").
@mj-dt2lh
@mj-dt2lh 3 жыл бұрын
2:48 very well said 👏
@leviackerman1826
@leviackerman1826 4 жыл бұрын
I have school tomorrow and I'm watching this at 3 am -_- I have no life
@sder918
@sder918 4 жыл бұрын
jemal nur seems like we're living on the same side of the world.. 😌
@kylem1112
@kylem1112 4 жыл бұрын
at least it's somewhat educational.
@rosegold973
@rosegold973 4 жыл бұрын
It should be time for u to get up for school by now 😥
@justinye8700
@justinye8700 4 жыл бұрын
jemal nur bro where do u live
@DecemberTheorys
@DecemberTheorys 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be damn if I were you
@boblamb5029
@boblamb5029 4 жыл бұрын
´Pain’ in french means bread so a baguette in the butt would be a pain in the arse.
@amiral_tintamar
@amiral_tintamar 4 жыл бұрын
Génie
@mrsomething1312
@mrsomething1312 4 жыл бұрын
This joke is underrated
@mahfew326
@mahfew326 4 жыл бұрын
No pain, no gain
@armytbchaine6515
@armytbchaine6515 4 жыл бұрын
Very well explained ^^
@kingk2405
@kingk2405 4 жыл бұрын
And the ‘croissant au chocolat ´ also exists it is a croissant shape and stuffed with chocolate and also sometimes some chocolate sprinkles on top . You also have the croissant stuffed with frangipane (sugar, almonds, butter , eggs) .
@marissalevine188
@marissalevine188 4 жыл бұрын
Heyy!! You made me drop my crossiant
@_.twixxx
@_.twixxx 3 жыл бұрын
america: chocolate croissant! france: *so you have chosen, death*
@financialproblems9308
@financialproblems9308 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine the split became like this : Jacque: ah piere would you like some pain au chocolat Piere: Why did you call chocolatine a pain au chocolat Jacque: because everyone likes it so much that it has become a pain to make every time and when some of them are wasted it pains my heart
@stuff4035
@stuff4035 3 жыл бұрын
Sigh, I’ll miss this channel
@sallybradshaw4576
@sallybradshaw4576 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this on a fast Sunday was a bad idea
@QwenHo
@QwenHo 4 жыл бұрын
*”pain au chocolatine”* There. You heard it here first.
@chikinwings9872
@chikinwings9872 4 жыл бұрын
U can't say that or else people will laugh at u.
@pp_smol
@pp_smol 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else watching this while eating a chocolatine??
@johnscanlan9335
@johnscanlan9335 3 жыл бұрын
There used to be an excellent patisserie francaise in New York called Dumas that made this magnificent pastry and it was always called pain automatically chocolat!
@westernwolfclik2714
@westernwolfclik2714 4 жыл бұрын
"Are you going to finish that croissant" -Carl Whezer
@TXP9
@TXP9 4 жыл бұрын
Popular topics in political debates across the globe: USA: immigration, gender equality, education, gun laws Hong Kong: police brutality, political independence France: chocolate croissants
@qianwan8363
@qianwan8363 4 жыл бұрын
you're kidding right? the yellow jacket movements still going on.
@supergamegirl43d32
@supergamegirl43d32 4 жыл бұрын
And which H0omAn country is more peaceful?? None because I.am.HUNGRY
@someoneyoumightknow2795
@someoneyoumightknow2795 4 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely, we really don't have any issue to complain about Sense my sarcasm
@steverogers8041
@steverogers8041 4 жыл бұрын
It's pain au chocolat not chocolate croissant
@HeHe-ko3wr
@HeHe-ko3wr 3 жыл бұрын
@@steverogers8041 no it is chocolatine
@joseguilhermesantos7148
@joseguilhermesantos7148 4 жыл бұрын
Some portuguese people call it "Napolitana de chocolate". PS: It's my favourite pastry. :)
@runarandersen878
@runarandersen878 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting story I didn’t know about.
@greenbutter3190
@greenbutter3190 4 жыл бұрын
Stabiles Video👍
@smileforhiba
@smileforhiba 4 жыл бұрын
when I go to France Im going to break the mold and order a "croissant au chocolat"! I wonder how the french will react :P
@Paulsicles
@Paulsicles 4 жыл бұрын
In Switzerland we call it schoggi-croissant 😁
@BabaBugman
@BabaBugman 4 жыл бұрын
Non, pain au chocolat in Switzerland. Croissant au chocolat is a bit different. ;)
@lobsterwithoutalife
@lobsterwithoutalife 4 жыл бұрын
never forgetting when the starbucks barista in america cocked an eyebrow at me when i asked for a pain au chocolat took me a sec to realise and to ask for a "chocolate croissant" instead
@mikrokosmosxx5684
@mikrokosmosxx5684 4 жыл бұрын
Just shows that people will argue about anything if they are bored enough
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