Respect to Shrikant Talageriji for doing such through work.

Looks like the charvak is the most dilligent warrior for Hinduism! Thank you for this discussion, I will surely read this book when I can!

So this is basically a 1.5 hr video saying *Aap chronology samjhiye!* 😅

Analyzing ancient texts using linguistics and other methods has always been a dream project of mine (atleast for the last 15 years). But this materialistic world makes such a task hard to accomplish. Shrikanth Talagiri is doing exactly what I wanted to do. Using available information to fit the puzzle. I will read your books, some day.

Encyclopaedic insights - he may just have a crystal ball that spans space/time. I hope our Indian billionaires and millionaires consider endowing Indian Universities to create Chairs for such pathbreaking independent researchers/ scholars.

Indra worship is still prevalent among Haryana. Many people still have their names as "inder". Old haryana was upto Mathura, agra. Haryana name contains name of "Hari" means Krishna and "yana" means Adobe. Ofcourse the capital was Indraprastha

Shrikant ji is a living encyclopaedia on RIG VEDA and Aryan Invasion Theory it seems. 😎

Hats of to Shrikant Talageri ji... 🙏

salute to shrikant for his efforts

Srikanth Talageri Sir, lots of respect for you... You are a jem. The hard work you have put in is just beyond my imagination. A true inspiration. Thank you Sir.

Just mind blown... Will get this for my brother who is studying sanskrit

Great work Shrikant Talageri ji.

Good topic, interesting, keep bringing such topics.

Wonderful discussion 👏

Namastas Srikanth Talageriji

Someone should introduce data science and excel to Srikant ji. I think data science and excel software can be very powerful in his analysis of linguistics and numbers of different languages.

Shrikant ji is 🙏🙏

excellent

landed here while trying 2 make sense of d vedas ❤️

The guest here is a continuation of the Western indology focus of history centricism. Recently heard the importance of Vedas from and dick perspective from a Vedic scholar, where in the importance of the sentence was based on the utility from an individual upliftment rather than establishing the domination of a particular tribe. So it was utility centricism vs historic centricism.

If the Rig Veda was completed by 2.5k BCE, when did the Mahabharat War occur? What about the 3102-BCE start of the Kali Era?

Where can I find a copy of Rig Veda's history?

If we collect dna of all VISHWAMITRA gotra people can we recreate how VISHWAMITRA looked in the past?

how much material is actually available in Mittani , in order to make this study significant? I am curious

9:34 ur spoked wheel argument is a CIRCULAR EVIDENCE!! 🤣🤣🤣

I could not get the meaning of unas described at around 10th minute of the video. Could anyone help me pls...

Where we can find old rigveda

Good one sir. One question though, how do we explain striking similarity between languages like Lithuanian and Sanskrit?

@The Carvaka Podcast - You mentioned comments about chariots. I think you missed a fundamental part, i.e., Ram's father is "Dashrath," i.e., literally 10 chariots or owner of 10 chariots. So doesn't make sense that they will interpolate that part.

But Sir in one of your articles you have shown that Indo-Aryans moved from east to west - east meaning as far as Ganga Jamuna area to Punjab & further west. But now you say that Haryana Punjab were the areas when old books were composed. This position is contradictory, is it not? Will you please explain? Or are you revising your earlier findings?

The old Rgveda is about 15,000 years old. It was composed in the Vedic language of the Aryans in the Caucasus according to PR Sarkar

Can somebody please guide me on how to find and read the old and or new rig Vedas?

Shrikant sir your example of Night and Ratri is very illustrative. But we, who are your avid follows to learn more and more, it will be nice if you could give some more such similar examples

Parigter has shown that the oldest hymns ĥad been chanted near ayodha and in gujarat

Can you kindly share the link of Shrikantji's blogs ?

I found the word nakta in Kalidasa's Meghdootam .

Latest video of Shri Shrikant Talageri on Out of India Theory: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/erF1o6iDqcW5ZH0.html [Aug, 2022]

Really awesome.Thank you

Theoretically, the vedas are excellent. However the younger gen would like to understand how vedas impacts their challenges in life and education/ jobs. One of my friend has raised the query, can vedas change my prospective towards life and more.

The oldest portion of the Vedas, that is, the Rgveda, was composed outside India. The remaining portions, that is, the Yajurveda and Atharvaveda, were partly Indian and partly non-Indian. Sámaveda is not a separate Veda by itself but is the compilation of the lyrical and musical portions of the different Vedas. So only the Rgveda can be regarded as an ancient relic of the non-Indian Aryan civilization. The Yajurveda was composed in Iran, Afghanistan, northwest India and certain parts of what is modern Russia, so it cannot be called entirely non-Indian, particularly since Afghanistan (Gándhár) and certain parts of Russia were regarded as part of India at that time. The original Rgvedic civilization belonged, in spirit and language, to the non-Indian Aryans. However, the Yajurveda was composed by a particular branch of the Vedic Aryans who, when the Aryans later began to spread out in search of food (especially wheat), migrated to India via Iran (Áryańya Vraja) and Afghanistan. When we say “Indo-Aryan civilization”, we basically mean the civilization of these people. These nomadic Aryans, on coming in contact with the different groups of people of Iran, Afghanistan and northwest India, took up farming and developed the techniques of strategic warfare. The impact of this new mindset bred in them, to some extent, a refined intelligence. In the beginning, during the Rgvedic era, the cattle-rearing Aryans were only acquainted with barley and a few other crops. After they came to the present Iran, they learned to cultivate wheat and, to some extent, rice. The more they progressed on their march, the more they came to realize the importance of growing different crops. Still, their staple was generally barley. They learned wheat cultivation from the Asuras, the indigenous natives of Iran. Though they became acquainted with paddy, or briihi (briihi → riihi → rihi → risi → “rice”, as in modern English), they did not cultivate it extensively. They learned the use of boiled rice in India. The Yajurvedic era saw the all-round development of these people, and the resultant development of the Brahmaváda of the Yajurveda - the doctrine of monotheism. During this era not only was there a noticeable intellectual development among the general mass of the Aryans; among the munis [intellectuals or seers] and the rśis, philosophy and spirituality also attained a brilliant height of expression. The Brahmaváda of the Yajurveda was a lot deeper and clearer than that of the Rgveda. The Atharvaveda was initially composed in India. During the composition of this Veda, the Aryans came in close contact with the non-Aryans, resulting in an exchange of thought between the two. The Tantra of the non-Aryans had a marked influence on the Atharvaveda. Being non-Aryan, the Atharvaveda cannot be regarded as a representation of Aryan civilization. In the subtle philosophy of the Atharvaveda, particularly of the Nrsiḿha Tápańiiya Shruti, there is a far greater influence of the non-Aryan Tantra than of the Aryan Veda. -- PR Sarkar in his book Tantra and Indo-Aryan Civilization

The internal chronology makes sense. Does it mean the entire Indus -Valley area is RigVedic or was there a difference in language even within IVC. Also, does that mean Mahabharata happened before the latest book on Rig Veda was composed ? . It would make more sense because its Vyasa who re-compiled the 4 vedas and he is also composed on the 'Jaya ' epic inside Mahabharata .

Aryans came from the banks of Sarasvati River and Sapta Sindu river present in Pakistan. In 2022 there was a deluge in that area in Pakistan. Because of such deluge in Vedic period, Aryans split into two groups. One migrated to plains of India and the other group went to Babel in Iraq and built Tower of Babel, for which they were cursed by the Lord.

In pahari night is called बैड़ि and राचि

"The time of the composition of the Rgveda was approximately between fifteen thousand years ago and ten thousand years ago, that of the Yajurveda between ten thousand years ago and seven thousand years ago, and that of the Atharvaveda between seven thousand years ago and five thousand years ago. The Sámaveda is not a Veda at all. The word sáma means “song”. The Sámaveda was made later on from the music portions of the three Vedas, that is, the Sámaveda is found within the Rgveda, Yajurveda and Atharvaveda." - PR Sarkar in his book Shabda Cayaniká Part 2

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Doesn’t this basically prove the out-of-india theory?

send him a mic or ask him to use old Nokia phone earphones. do a phone conversation because voice is everything not visual unless he has some slideshow to present.

Has he used Hittite language, along with Mittani?

Do you think Ayodhya is a Historical city? The city has historically been called Saket. Couldn't Ikshawaku dynasty in itself be a mythical dynasty I mean Mandhaata supported gods in their war how do you see it

Hey Michael Witzel, I know your watching this !!! 😂

Rig Veda has a deep spiritual resonance. So doing historical analysis is fine but let's not forget the main reason why the Rig Veda was composed.

Iam a Shikarian.

Vedic people were fish eating Brahmins who lived by river saraswati and migrated to bengal and west coast after the river dried up they were tribes of Indus Valley and are known as saraswats as Mr talagiri is he should speak more on origin of saraswat and Indus Valley

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There is no doubt now that the original chants were composed in a proto dravidian language

what exactly is his hypothesis? oh, after 30 mins he throws it casually - India was the homeland, and they went to west asia from india

Mala Zau De

Topic suggestion: horse cart, chariot, horse-back riding, history of horse in general

Can't understand the insistence on the Rg Veda being "family books", even if these family books are compiled together as there is consistency in the flow. But these are compilations. If a song attributed to Angirasa is in a Vishwamitra "family book" maybe it was part of the family collection, or made a part of the compilation by Veda Vyasa, who we now can reasonably assert, is of the 5th millennium BCE, for good reason? Why does Talageri throw his weight behind the findings of western linguists or indologists who know little about our history or refuse to acknowledge it? Why bring the later Rg Veda books to the 1500 BCE period, in line with the colonial Aryan Invasion myths? And who says there are no horses in India in the 12th millennium BCE Ramayana period? When did, for example, Dasaratha given Keikeyi her 2 promises and what was she doing at the time? What is the ashwamedha yajna in the Ramayana era? Does Talageri think the Mahabharata took place "at the end of the Rg Vedic period"? And since he asserts the later books are of the period between 2000-1000 BCE, it would mean the Mahabharata was around 1000 BCE? Serious flaws!

What matters for spirituality? Chronology or teaching? As long as moral of the story , objectives are the same, who cares for chronology? Chronology and literal word by word meaning is style of lakeer ke fakeer chela's of illegal arab tribal Baba's... How can someone taking Charvak Rishi tike can act so lakeer ka fakeer unless working on some agenda of gangs of arab desert Baba's... Jerusalem to MeccA..

AIT has been ejected by most scholars around the world due to lack of evidence. AMT (i.e. Aryans gradually migrated to the subcontinent; doesn't talk about invasions) is accepted nowadays. It doesn't make sense that PIE people moved out of the subcontinent. Why on earth would anyone leave a nice and comfortable place and move towards harsh lands of Iran and Afghanistan and continue their journey forward? Also, how can one explain the existence of two other language families (distinct from Indo-Aryan): Indo-Austronesian (eg.: Santhali) and Dravidian. (Sino-Tibetan languages only exist in the Himalayan regions, that's why I left the family out).

To understand Veda, one must be trained in traditional Guru shishya parampara.

The rig veda is not a book it is a collection of chants