The Church of Sune - Forgotten Realms Lore

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5 жыл бұрын

There are many misconceptions about Sune and those who worship her. Sunites are often seen as aesthetes and hedonists, but Sune teaches more than appearances and enjoying every pleasures in life on Faerûn.
Here, a (male) priest of Sune shares how the church of Sune works, the life of Sune's priesthood, and how Sune lets you live your adventuring life to the fullness.
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@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

Sune: The religion for people who can't read good and want to learn how to do other stuff good too.

@stevenmichaelcunningham4085 4 жыл бұрын

Shucks. (^_^)

@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself 3 жыл бұрын

Granted powers include turning undead and charm person 1/day. Special hindrance: can't turn left.

@dreammirrorbrony1240 5 жыл бұрын

Playing a Paladin of Sune was a lot of fun! Warriors of truth, justice, and hot steamy romance. :)

@ben5056 4 жыл бұрын

multiclass into bard for extra style points :)

@Ragitsu 3 жыл бұрын

I find it sad that Sune herself believes that beauty is more than skin deep (she is Chaotic GOOD, remember)...but her *clergy* tends to be more judgmental.

@TheBayzent 3 жыл бұрын

I played a Heartwarder revolutionary during 3.5 that stated rejection of Half Orcs and other ugly races on the grounds of physical appearance goes straight against the precept of "share love with every creature", and started openly preaching the good of sune to everybody that wasn't undead or an extra planar manifestation of evil. It resulted in a boom and Sunites becoming one of the most important religions of the Realms, since God power increases through prayer, Sune was uncomfortable with the deal but still got through it, she appeared to my cleric to convince him to desist and I ended up convincing her that, to defend all that is beautiful in the world, only a handful of people won't do, and that she needed more power to be able to defend Sharess and oppose the cult of Shar and Talos effectively. I absolutely adore playing Clerics.

@Ragitsu 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBayzent Interesting. Sune is already a Greater Deity. To the best of your knowledge, did she ascend beyond that tier of influence? P.S. Have you ever looked into Hanali Celanil?

@pugking4518 2 жыл бұрын

True but in the end of the day Sune does not do anything to stop her followers from thinking this way she just lets them get on with it

@Ragitsu 2 жыл бұрын

@@pugking4518 Perhaps they need to learn the wisdom for themselves...no matter how long that takes.

@Ragitsu 3 жыл бұрын

The 2e _Faiths & Avatars_ supplement features some rather nice art of a Sunite specialty priest (Heartwarder). You _could_ say that it displays a window into her soul.

@Ragitsu 3 жыл бұрын

Here is the art of said priest among other priests of good -> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7CJhdmSl5mlYGw.html .

@thewartuna1627 3 жыл бұрын

Took being a paladin of Sune to the next level. Eva Emberlocks, is a fire genasi, oath of glory paladin. Her athleticism, and comeliness blend together against her need of being a debutante. Their is beauty in conquering the battlefield, the ballroom, and the bed.

@detgrsketestamente3821 5 жыл бұрын

Wow... what a great video. Sune has for very long been lurking in the back of my mind, and great stories could be written about her might and her followers. Among the most powerful videos you have made so far. Thank you very, very much.

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

No, thank you :) - It was a fun one to make.

@TheBayzent 4 жыл бұрын

What I've always found hilarious is that, for all their frivolity, they apparently have a private army similar to that of the most warlike good faiths like Lathander...wtf?

@Nephlir3 2 жыл бұрын

I’m currently playing a cleric of Sune who is a lovely noble girl from a notorious family that worships Lazhander. I play her as a relatively shy girl when it comes to more carnal inclinations but a very generous loving girl that wants to make everyone happy and loved. I think the beauty of Sune’s faith is you can make lot’s of different PC outside the typical “hedonist lustful priest”

@RedT...TheOriginal.NotANumber 4 жыл бұрын

"... more pompous religions." Teapot, allow me to introduce you to kettle. Love how this video flirts with satire. Well done!

@darkwizardsfire102 5 жыл бұрын

The Church of Sune - Forgotten Realms the playboy club of another age

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right :)

@henriksaverstrom8498 3 жыл бұрын

More like a Swingers club in my opinion.

@dreammirrorbrony1240 5 жыл бұрын

Played a Paladin of the Rose once, their knightly order. It was a lot of fun, and getting to dress rather provocatively for a paladin was hilarious. They can be flighty compared to most, but its all how you role play it.

@robertoakes5117 5 жыл бұрын

Abeir-Toril is my 2nd favorite setting, behind Ravenloft. Dragonlance 3rd. I do like Eberron. Provides a change of pace. So does Starjammer, which I also enjoy when in the mood for it

@wesmaass4669 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, especially for those who are currently running Waterdeep Dragon heist. Keep up the great work.

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

Sune is in Dragon Heist? Must be set in a season I am not running.

@GokmenOncu 5 жыл бұрын

Temple of Beauty is marked on the official map. Me and my group just finished act 1 of the story and I'm playing a young, dedicated, charming and handsome noble (from House Wands) Cleric of Sune on that game.

@QuestingGM 5 жыл бұрын

The Grand Revel is celebrated as one of the festivals in the city.

@silkietheassasin633 5 жыл бұрын

patrons of fine art, that's nice

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

Someone has to be :)

@Spartacus547 5 жыл бұрын

The Church of art dealing pompous superficial people, sounds perfect for a Bard/ cleric that has either the merchant or Aristocrat Noble background

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

Indeed it does

@krakatoahurricane 5 жыл бұрын

Happy as soon as I hear the intro music

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

@shotsfiredgaming6924 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds a lot like a brothel and a church had a unholy child and this baby matured into the Faith of the Frisky!.

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

There was a moment last night, when she was sandwiched between the two Gold dwarves and the Uthgardt tribesmen, where I thought, "Wow, I could really spend the rest of my life worshiping Sune".

@thevoidcritter 5 жыл бұрын

Certain religions in the super olden days did have prostitutes associated with them, so I mean.

@pitanguirj 5 жыл бұрын

Super cool...the temple of sune has become important in my tomb campaign... This will help

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

Happy to help, I would suggest a rewatch of Zoolander, as we took a lot of inspiration from that movie (reading up on them clearly shows that they are models with first world problems)

@unhackerthelaziestbastardo6083 4 жыл бұрын

Need to learn this for my Astral Self Monk who I decided would be a worshipper of Sune. For reasons.

@moragtongassassin8648 5 жыл бұрын

She reminds me of Dibella from the elder scrolls

@TheBayzent 4 жыл бұрын

She has a lot in common with Dibella, and a lot in common with Mara. Dibella does have a lot of Sharess too because, unlike Sunites, Dibellans like to get hot and heavy too, not just make poems, statues and songs about their love.

@theydon_bois Жыл бұрын

I am an Eldarin Sorlock (celestial divine sorceror) and this fits me perfectly :)

@bluefenix5304 5 жыл бұрын

Make Tyr next please, i love this videos.

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

We have a few in the pipeline already, but I will put Tyr on the board for production :)

@bobmcguffin5706 4 жыл бұрын

The religion for supporting your favourite artists on Patreon

@brianmead7556 4 жыл бұрын

This would be my church if I lived in the Forgotten Realms.

@rogerballoujr.6244 3 жыл бұрын

yep....I was hooked at mostly women of red hair lol

@marquisealexander1371 3 жыл бұрын

True, sounds like a great place to be

@somekindofdude1130 5 жыл бұрын

I love your channel

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

@somekindofdude1130 5 жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenRealmsHistory Is it possible to have some dragon lore?

@robertoakes5117 5 жыл бұрын

I allow my PC's to pass notes under the table for a secret action he/she wants to attempt. If it's an action that requires a roll, allow them to act like they're just fumbling around his or her dice. If they get caught, their bad & they're immediately found out. Pay attention to the roll from the supposed fumble to see if the action succeeds or not. Players, bring this up to your DM's. It's really fun & useful when running Neutral to Evil PC's. Some good PC's may even actually want to perform secret actions. Like Batman, for example. I also enjoy the D20 system Modern Role-playing game. It's 3.5 D&D in the modern world. Provides a change of pace. With or without the Urban Arcana Setting

@ReapTheWhirlwind 5 жыл бұрын

I actually have a Sun Soul Monk/Cleric of Sune who focuses on reclaiming lost beauty. Diamond came to Sune's service towards the end of her time at the Quivering Ass Monastery, where the arts of striptease and Kung Fu are taught side by side. By that time she was scarred from years of martial arts training but she still yearned to serve Sune. Sune responded to Diamond's prayers by transforming her scars into lines of gold(the inspiration for this is the art of Japanese kintsugi) and charged her to spend her life inspiring others that all is not lost because of scars or deformity, that beauty may be reclaimed. Whenever Diamond receives a new wound that will scar she rubs a mix of gold dust and healing herbs into it and then prays to Sune to gaze upon her act of reclaiming beauty.

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a really good understanding of Sune :)

@laurentdeserresberard9600 5 жыл бұрын

Thats an awesome plan for a character

@laurentdeserresberard9600 5 жыл бұрын

Wait but is she totally accepted by Sune or she must redeem herself for the desctruction of her beauty through bringing back lost beauties, a perpetual task? So i mean, is she like a servant of sune in forever redeeming?

@robertoakes5117 5 жыл бұрын

I know they've dropped the Abeir prefix. I don't know anything past Version 3.5 w/3rd edition side books. Book of Vile Darkness is awesome. I like to run evil campaign. There must be a uniting factor so the evil PC's are much less likely to turn on each other. Church of Bane, Zhentarim, etc.

@WinningSidekick 3 жыл бұрын

I watched this video several months ago. Was chatting with my Waterdeep: Dragon Heist group and one of them jokingly suggested making a Regina George paladin. My immediate response: CROWN PALADIN OF SUNE.

@robertoakes5117 5 жыл бұрын

Last time I was able to actually run a PC, I was a Vampire Thrall of Orcus/Necromancer. Now that's fun! I ended up turning 2 of the other 3 PC's into Zombies, before the Rogue in the group shot me in the back with some badass vamp slaying arrow that the dirty SoB told the DM he was buying secretly before we had left the town. It was awesome tho. Good times

@detgrsketestamente3821 5 жыл бұрын

Further philosophical notes for character motivation for a Sunee cleric or priest. Studies of the aestetics 💚

@detgrsketestamente3821 5 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mK6nZ7B-qtTRoJc.html

@brandonclark435 2 жыл бұрын

Take me to Church.

@doctorgoodguy1 5 жыл бұрын

Great vid! Have you done one on the Saurials before?

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

Saurials don't have much lore in the realms. They are located in one tiny area, and shown off in two books. Will investigate what we can do regarding them.

@robertoakes5117 5 жыл бұрын

Happy hunting my fellow nerdom! #nerdpride

@darthmemewalker2807 5 ай бұрын

Sune is perhaps my favorite diety in dnd

@Apillis124 5 жыл бұрын

Great video! But just as a bit of an anal retentive nitpick on my part. Her name is pronounced as "Soon-nae", for YEARS I mispronounced her name, too. I used pronounced Sune as though it rhymed with the word "rune". But in the end, wound up discovering years later that her name is pronounced as "Soon-nae". She's a really fun goddess to utilize (and is often just relegated to being nothing more than a simple Aphrodite figure), I mean, she is one of Shar's rivals, and it's a charge by Sune to her bards, fighters, and paladins to travel and aid traveling good clergy and/or adventurers. So, while yes, she is the Forgotten Realms' Aphrodite figure, she's actually kind of a badass, which unfortunately doesn't get recognized.

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

Indeed, the Goddess is not like her Clergy, and her worshipers are far more diverse. However, a cleric of Sune would not make a great adventurer. The need to keep up appearances and never gain a scar is something I think is more fitting for a noble character or rich merchants offspring.

@Apillis124 5 жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenRealmsHistory I agree, her monks oft follow the Way of the Sun Soul according to SCAG because of its tenet for demanding physical perfection, albeit what a monk views as "physical protection" verses your ordinary clergy and/or noble is likely worlds apart.

@QuestingGM 5 жыл бұрын

In the sources I checked (Faiths and Avatars and Faith and Pantheons), they state the pronunciation as (SUE-nee) or (soo-nee).

@Apillis124 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, the double "ee" for the pronunciation is done as a long A sound, much in the same way one would pronounce the feminine form of protegee. I don't know why they had it written in it like that, because it causes confusion--it's weird. Eilistraee's own awkward pronunciation causes a lot of confusion as well for much the same reasoning as they change up the pronunciations of their own lettering so there's no real consistency within each pantheon.

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

You pronounce the double ee in protegee because it's not a double ee, its protégée, from the French pronunciation. Double EE in American English is pronounced as the phonetic character /i:/ , or the ee sound in FLEECE.

@jaimeorr4661 5 жыл бұрын

Outstanding /CLAPclapCLAP. Your B-E-S-T

@andrewniehoff8612 2 жыл бұрын

As a Warhammer fan, all I can say is that it is good that this is here I can just see it going down in the Empire. Sune cleric: So, now that I have explained it would you be in...Hey! Were are you going? Villager comes back with tall, dark-clad man. Villager: That's him, witch-hunter! That's the Slaaneshi cultist!

@TheSummoner86 4 жыл бұрын

When are you doing Mystra?

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 4 жыл бұрын

Been pondering Mystra, was wondering how we would portray a follower of Mystra.

@TheSummoner86 4 жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenRealmsHistory Yeah the deity of magic has changed hands so many times that to do it justice you would have to portray them for each person who had the title.

@JenJenRome123 2 жыл бұрын

My Crystal Dragon blood human Sorceress who worships this Goddess: YAS QUEEN!

@maggintons 2 жыл бұрын

"High priestess we need your help, Faeruns future is on the line!" "Oh no.. Sune calls to me!... I must leave my post and find the best rest break sofa, it's all up to you now my protégé!" "...well can you instead help us?!" "Oh no, Sune calls to me! I must lea-"

@imhigh0013 3 жыл бұрын

If we were to pronounce Sune as Soonee or Soonie... It should be spelled as such. If spelled Sune... Then its Soon as in Dune. Lest we should pronounce Sun as soon?

@kristiannicholson5893 3 жыл бұрын

When you make up a fantasy world I guess you can dictate the pronunciation. It's stated in more than one publication that it's pronounced Soonie as in Goonie.

@Ragitsu 3 жыл бұрын

Whatever you think sounds the most beautiful!

@williamcampbell3360 3 жыл бұрын

@@kristiannicholson5893 Ed Greenwood, the creator of forgotten realms, said it's pronounced "soon". He chalks up other creators using Soo-NAY as vowel variations in accents. source: @TheEdVerse.

@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself 2 жыл бұрын

There is similar confusion with the names Selune and Sylune. In Ed Greenwood's campaign guides, he includes pronunciation.

@Nic7800 5 жыл бұрын

I had a tiefling paladin who was a follower of Sune...he was one weird paladin.

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

I guess he was good looking :)

@brianmead7556 4 жыл бұрын

I'm contemplating playing a half orc who wishes to be made beautiful by Sune, but is sadly very battle scarred and prone to being an asshole. As Tyrion lamented, "Why can't there be a god of tits and wine?" Well now there is.

@sarnxero2628 5 жыл бұрын

Soo-Nee? I thought "soon" or soo-neh

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

/ˈsuːni/ SOO-nee - But there is no "true" way of saying anything in the realms: faerunhistory.wordpress.com/2018/08/03/pronounciation-in-the-realms/

@perjohanaxell9862 5 жыл бұрын

Haha... With different pronunciation it's a male name in Swedish, mostly used by older men.

@MauricioTheTacomancer 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this video but I take exception to a flagrant misrepresentation about "physical beauty" the bit about scars and disfigurement is completely wrong as are other misconceptions. The Temple of Sune is about truth and beauty, not superficiality. The mission of The Church of Sune is to ensure that "all mortals deserve the opportunity to experience beauty during their brief lives. The church goes about ensuring that this opportunity exists in two manners. The first is the support of artistic endeavors. This covers a wide variety of ventures including culinary arts, music, painting, sculpting and others. Clerics of Sune seek out exceptional artistic talent and provide them with monetary grants or help them become members of prestigious organizations. The second focus of the church is much more pragmatic. The church uses its vast monetary resources to support civilization in all its forms; for without cities, towns and roads, there would not be theaters, restaurants, art galleries and all of the other venues that allow for the appreciation of beauty. The church pays for the construction of roads, forts and caravansaries so that travel between cities is less dangerous." from M&BJoV

@PR--un4ub 2 жыл бұрын

_Faiths & Avatars_ paints a different picture.

@kylepeck776 2 жыл бұрын

You missed the ENTIRE point of the goddess....

@Avalanche616 5 жыл бұрын

A made a half elf male anointed champion of Sune named Libertine Twiceborn. The name Twiceborn comes from half elves who want to hide their lineage. And Libertine I chose because of the apt definition; a person who is a religious free thinker, or has sex without moral principle. Yes, he is an unabashed carnal hedonist.

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

Seems like the perfect Sunite :)

@Kizzy-qb9si 4 жыл бұрын

She sounds like a smutty romance novel and idealist fairy tail story

@RoleReviewsal 5 жыл бұрын

So far one person has thumbs downed a celebration of love.

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

I assume they are all followers of Shevarash.

@RaoGung 3 жыл бұрын

Lol. This is silly. It’s also pronounced “Soon”. So “Soon-nee” grinds my gears.

@Ragitsu 3 жыл бұрын

From where did you locate the official pronunciation?

@kristiannicholson5893 3 жыл бұрын

Multiple sources confirm that it is indeed pronounced as Suni

@williamcampbell3360 3 жыл бұрын

Cheer up Rao! The creator of Forgotten Realms agrees with you. " Ed Greenwood @TheEdVerse "Soon" in the home Realms. The pronunciation guides in FR0 and FR5 were compiled in-house (@GramrgednAngel would have had to edit down long screeds to fit into the GB and likely FR5) from pronunciation lists I provided or was asked to generate once my weird names hit TSR eyeballs"

@williamhenry8914 Жыл бұрын

Abyss take these vain fools!

@gryphoncompanion 5 жыл бұрын

Sunites, not Suneeites. x.o

@ForgottenRealmsHistory 5 жыл бұрын

It is the religion for people who can't read good and want to learn how to do other stuff good too.

@nekrox1 5 жыл бұрын

*Hears about the church of Sune* What 😡 ?!! WHAT 😨 ?!!! AAAAND WHAT 😲 ?!! That's it , i can't take it anymore : BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD !!! 😠 *Goes into a frenzy mode and decapitates everyone and everything standing nearby, a few moments later takes a deep breath* 😧 I feel better now , please countiniue 😐