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“The Citizen Tsuyosa Is The New King!” My AR$E It Is!

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@atholheys
@atholheys 9 ай бұрын
Paid £195 for mine as an ex shop display watch and am very happy with it. Generally I’ve found that Citizen’s are better built for the money than the equivalent Seiko, they don’t seem to suffer anywhere near the amount of misaligned bezels, hands etc
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches 9 ай бұрын
agreed, their quartz watches have well aligned seconds hands too
@TerenceHughes4501
@TerenceHughes4501 9 ай бұрын
I don't agree. The Miyota 8 series movements they use in their entry level watches are pretty horrible. It's why the Ali Express brands tend to favour the NH35. It's a more refined movement
@indramatic
@indramatic 9 ай бұрын
Casing-wise Citizen watches are the tad above Seiko (maybe) but paying anything more than $150for a watch with a $25 Miyota 8x movement in it seems like a ripoff of feebleminded rest of us.
@TerenceHughes4501
@TerenceHughes4501 9 ай бұрын
@@indramatic Well that argument can be applied to any watch. How much to do you think it costs to produce a Rolex submariner.
@MrMagoo-hf8yk
@MrMagoo-hf8yk 9 ай бұрын
​@@TerenceHughes4501Date-Just can't cost too much to build?
@AlexanderB.
@AlexanderB. 9 ай бұрын
I like the Tsuyosa. In my opinion it counts as a budged watch given it's from a major brand and offers sapphire crystal and a hacking automatic movement. Try and find a Seiko integrated bracelet sports watch with similar specs as at a similar price.
@Miginath
@Miginath 9 ай бұрын
Couple of points to consider. 1) Citizen hasn't pushed automatic watches outside of the Asian markets for sometime with the rest of the world having mostly EcoDrive offerings. 2) While not a direct homage of the DateJust it has some shared characteristics but more budget offering. 3) The polished folding clasp is typical for Citizen I have owned several and all of them that came on bracelet had a polished folding. Overall it's a good offering and around 50% of the PRX automatic.
@Justin.Franks
@Justin.Franks 9 ай бұрын
You get an automatic movement for the same price as a quartz PRX. I think it's a pretty decent deal, plenty of people are hesitant to buy a cheap Chinese watch, so another name-brand automatic in the under-$500 bracket is always good to see.
@JimIBobIJones
@JimIBobIJones 8 ай бұрын
Citizen have been selling mechanical watches on the down low outside of Asia. Brand perception is very different in the west compared to Japan. Consumers don't really understand or appreciate tiering within the same brand and look down on Seiko and Citizen because of how cheap their lowest tier watches are. Seiko took years of expensive marketing to chance perceptions and I would argue they have had limited success and only really in the collector community. Citizen has chosen to buy western brands instead.
@JimIBobIJones
@JimIBobIJones 8 ай бұрын
​@Justin.Franks I would rather have a good eta quartz than a miyota 8xxx series automatic. It is as bad as a mechanical movement gets.
@kobusvanrensburg4092
@kobusvanrensburg4092 9 ай бұрын
It's certainly a "hype watch". However if you are 100% objective and only look at the facts, then watch reviews would be a series of videos reading from a spec sheet. Subjective thoughts however make this whole thing we call watch collecting interesting, and reviewers have been giving it a thumbs up. If you look solely at specs, Pagani Design are the greatest watchmakers ever. And somehow I doubt many people would agree to that statement.
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches 9 ай бұрын
Yes, very true and handling the watch I can tell you it is good....not the new king but it is good....
@DumasMoran
@DumasMoran 9 ай бұрын
If you believe the whole "everyone rips everyone else off" trope, Pagani very well may be the greatest watchmaker of all time, for economically democratizing art.
@muhammadurwah1990
@muhammadurwah1990 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. Had the San Martin bb58, perfect specs. But to me very soulless.
@MirrlyonTime
@MirrlyonTime 9 ай бұрын
Not sure why there was a lot of negativity about this one, looks pretty great to me, I like the bracelet on that, the rounded links look quite nice. I’m a sucker for white dials, definitely has op vibes which is why it has been described as a Rolex killer lol. Love a nice crisp white dial, this is a nice watch! Thanks Gary
@nielwilliams4687
@nielwilliams4687 9 ай бұрын
I have had mine now for about a year, and I am extremely pleased with it. Sure the crown is ridiculously small and the clasp is sub standard, but the rest of the watch is brilliant. It has that eye catching effect. I see on Chrono 24 they are selling at around $250.
@fyioska
@fyioska 9 ай бұрын
I think a lot of people expect Tissot levels of finishing for the same price. What you do get is a decent retro design from a well respected manufacturer at an ok price, an automatic for a similar price to the PRX Quartz. When Seiko are charging similar prices for a design they've used for many years on their 5KX I don't think the Citizen is unreasonable. It's not for me though.
@paulc9588
@paulc9588 9 ай бұрын
I don't get why people are comparing this with the PRX as the automatic version isn't at a comparable price point, more than double the RRP in fact. The Tsuyosa is a good option for those wanting a stylish and affordable automatic that will no doubt be durable and reliable. Tissot quality and value is not all it is cracked up to be and given the price difference you could actually buy both a Tsuyosa and a PRX quartz (more convincing than the automatic IMHO) for the same price as a PRX automatic.
@driven01
@driven01 5 ай бұрын
@@paulc9588The Citizen automatic is at a similar price point to the Tissot quartz. The Tissot automatic is about double the price. All things considered, unless I just wanted a Tissot, I'd go with the Citizen in this case.
@nAcolz
@nAcolz 4 ай бұрын
@@paulc9588Where I live the PRX Powermatic 80 runs around 17000-18000, while the Tsuyosa's are around 7000-8000 currency nevermind, don't want to reveal more
@tonycamaj4560
@tonycamaj4560 2 ай бұрын
$225 USD total makes this a damn solid watch IMO. Only question is, what color to go with...
@MrsVanB
@MrsVanB 2 ай бұрын
@@tonycamaj4560I agree. And it’s from a well-known brand which is cheaper than those San Martin homage watches from Aliexpress. I’m planning to buy the two tone option with the grey dial. 😊
@MisterNaughtyDaddy
@MisterNaughtyDaddy 7 ай бұрын
I generally wear a Rolex Datejust 36 as an everyday watch and I honestly buy watches that look sharp and expensive on my wrist, so beauty matters a lot. If a watch elevates my looks and what I'm wearing, I'm happy. For the price (budget price) there's nothing that looks as good as the Black Tsuyosa on my wrists. It looks expensive, classy, youthful, sharp ... Way more than the Tissot PRX. So as someone who isn't a watch nerd but appreciates beauty...this watch is really a winner and the best out there for the small price!! 😎👌
@deanivan3951
@deanivan3951 3 ай бұрын
I own the PRX and also the faded Turquoise Citizen Tsuyosa. Worn the PRX once, can't put down my Tsuyosa . I hope i got my point across!
@kevineccles7766
@kevineccles7766 9 ай бұрын
Very fair and accurate observations of this watch. I am more than pleased with my Tsuyosa (it has the pebbly blue dial). I had a PRX, but I like this better. The Powermatic80 in my PRX developed a helicopter rotor situation after having it for about 3 months (I also had a MIDO with a version of the Powermatic80, and it also developed the same issue), I sent it back to Tissot to be serviced and it took quite a while to come back. I picked up the Tusyosa around that time. I had both watches at the same time for month or so (and there were ample opportunities to compare them) and then when the Powermatic80 in the MIDO acted up, I sold both the MIDO and the PRX (and I'm guessing that it will be some time before I think about a Powermatic 80 movement again). When I had both the Tusyosa & the PRX, the Tsuyosa got more wrist time. For my wrist, It's more comfortable and I prefer the look of the bracelet to the flat link looks of the PRX. As for cost, Citizen has priced it at $450 here in the US , but I was able to get mine from Masters in Time for about $280. $450 is WAY too much for this watch lol. I could not agree with you more about the clasp on the otherwise nice bracelet. What in the world are they thinking? And the crown is a bit small and hard for my sausage like fingers to easily use. It's a pretty good watch for less than $300, but would not look at it for much more than that. My experience is as told above, YMMV.
@tonycamaj4560
@tonycamaj4560 2 ай бұрын
I thought it wasn't sold in the US?
@tonycamaj4560
@tonycamaj4560 2 ай бұрын
$225 USD total and it's a go, amirite?
@kevineccles7766
@kevineccles7766 2 ай бұрын
@@tonycamaj4560 This post was 6 months ago, and at that time the colorway I purchased was not available from Citizen USA. I had to get it imported. It may well be available now, I really don't know. Citizen USA was selling 4 or 5 other colorways here at the time.
@tamirdossiea3680
@tamirdossiea3680 9 ай бұрын
One of my favorite watches! Finishing on mine was great! Dial color on these matter..... got yellow, one of the best. Love the fit on my 7.25 wrist. Bracelet is great. And regarding the price..... originally (and the one i got) the price for these were around 225 euros. They came to US market and price went up 🤦🏾‍♂️. Solid solid watch otherwise and always gets a compliment!
@RampartPh
@RampartPh 9 ай бұрын
the prx is overhyped.
@hattyfarbuckle
@hattyfarbuckle 9 ай бұрын
Stumbled across this for just over £200 on a Spanish webshop very early on. Two dealkillers for me - the cyclops and the movement. Citizen EcoDrives are so good I cant buy one of their autos even at a lower price. Seiko have the cheap auto market sown up for me with the NH's
@KMV007
@KMV007 9 ай бұрын
I would buy this one for £300 if it had the 9000 series movement. With its current spec, £200 seems like a fair price.
@Ercan-cy3we
@Ercan-cy3we 6 ай бұрын
Yeah that would be an interesting upgrade
@JorgeGee713
@JorgeGee713 9 ай бұрын
Gary only praises San Martin homages :) In reality if you want a nice affordable watch (don't pay retail) and is not a blatant copy of something else this watch is great.
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches 9 ай бұрын
Hardly…I praise their original watches too 😂
@markgray4029
@markgray4029 9 ай бұрын
Several options on Amazon including the orange dial arguably the best at £229 pretty decent value at that I think better than equivalent Seikos which I own 🙁
@terryloh8583
@terryloh8583 9 ай бұрын
Seems like a case of managed expectations. For $250-280 I'd think this watch is great, and it can be had for that price. But $450 is right out. Thanks for the honest review!
@neilbailey4313
@neilbailey4313 9 ай бұрын
I got the yellow one and love it to bits
@deanivan3951
@deanivan3951 3 ай бұрын
Faded Turquoise dial and it's gorgeous!
@lefroy1
@lefroy1 9 ай бұрын
I know it's JDM, but the Citizen NB1050 is superior in every way. An overlooked gem of a watch.
@shanephillips8735
@shanephillips8735 9 ай бұрын
I have the black dial and it is such a great watch, was even thinking about picking up the NB1060 white lacquer dial
@lefroy1
@lefroy1 9 ай бұрын
​@@shanephillips8735 Such a beauty! I was torn between that one and the white dial NB1050. I went for the latter because of the dress-down versatility the bracelet offered. If you bought it you'd have the best of both worlds, as I'm pretty sure the bracelet/strap can be swapped between the two if you ever wanted to.
@shanephillips8735
@shanephillips8735 9 ай бұрын
@@lefroy1 This is exactly my thinking, it'll happen sooner or later
@shanephillips8735
@shanephillips8735 9 ай бұрын
@@lefroy1 ...and imagine how much you'd have to spend to get the Seiko equivalent.
@lefroy1
@lefroy1 9 ай бұрын
@@shanephillips8735 Exactly! _THAT_ dial as well as the (Zaratsu polished) case is Grand Seiko territory IMO.
@BartMan59
@BartMan59 8 ай бұрын
I have this watch in the yellow dial - I chose yellow over the Tiffany dial. A great watch, however, the crown is an absolutely HORRIBLE design for winding.
@ebplentl
@ebplentl 8 ай бұрын
I got mine for less than $300. I do wish the clasp was nicer and the crown a little easier to use, but overall I’m very pleased with it. Not a horrible value imo.
@saadparekh
@saadparekh 8 ай бұрын
clasp is an easy fix with an aliexpress milled clasp.
@travish9378
@travish9378 9 ай бұрын
It's a nice watch, but I definitely don't regret getting a PRX instead. The quartz dial is so underrated (and I found one new for only $220 because of it)
@AbnormalAspirations
@AbnormalAspirations 7 ай бұрын
I’m not sure the comparison between the quartz prx and the tsuyosa works.
@frankie4321
@frankie4321 8 ай бұрын
It’s an ok watch for the price, only if you can pay well below retail. It’s small on the wrist so if you lean towards a mid to large wrist it will look small. Finish is just ok and comfort is good. The bracelet punches above its weight and looks damn nice. All in all a good but not great watch if you can score one for a bargain well below retail. If I had to chose again I would pick the PRS as its bigger and better made. I have the light blue dial one and have to say I do enjoy the colour.
@kellypaws
@kellypaws 9 ай бұрын
To be fair, we all ought to be grateful. My disposal spondoolas are safe with this one on offer. That’s £ 300 you could put toward a Helm, or a PRX.
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches 9 ай бұрын
agreed!
@pasebeats6634
@pasebeats6634 4 ай бұрын
Automatic, Tiffany blue, sapphire, presidential type bracelet for under £300 in my opinion is well worth it, got mine for £200 today brand new
@lordcharfield4529
@lordcharfield4529 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for a balanced and reliable review as always! I thought the same about the clasp and having already got a Citizen Eco-Drive Calibre H820 with an incredibly well made bracelet and milled clasp, it would a downgrade in quality to get this watch, although its simplicity of use would be a massive improvement 😂
@fattmatt200
@fattmatt200 9 ай бұрын
In the U.K. You can purchase it at just over £200 if you dig down the internet rabbit hole. I personally thought it gained attention from the dial colours that really popped.
@Zkkr429
@Zkkr429 8 ай бұрын
After very careful consideration, I got a 35mm PRX quartz. Just can’t justify £300 for an automatic and I prefer the sun burst dial. I’m very happy with it. With the £300 I saved I bought an Autonatics III.
@jeffsvlog203
@jeffsvlog203 8 ай бұрын
Just got a blue one for $320 AUD on Black Friday sale, can’t fault it for that price 🎉
@bavarianwolf3806
@bavarianwolf3806 9 ай бұрын
the only tsuyosa i want is the white one. Sadly, its never on sale and you have the pay way more then for the orange or black one ^^ Or i want one of the new pantone collection, but they are over 100 dollar more
@ignaciopadilla5150
@ignaciopadilla5150 9 ай бұрын
Its about $249 dollars in the USA for most colors. Its a good watch but not PRX good. But it is an alternative to it specially if you want a mechanical watch. The Prx is more than double the price. It is a budget watch after all
@michaelkilbride2927
@michaelkilbride2927 9 ай бұрын
Telling it like it is keeping it real no bullxxxx thanks gary
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches 9 ай бұрын
Thank Michael
@williamsipe1151
@williamsipe1151 9 ай бұрын
I have one, and although I like it, it hasn't by any means captured my heart. It's better than the PRX, but it wears thick for some reason, I find the crown difficult to manipulate, and I'm disappointed in the pressed clasp. I find myself grabbing the Maen Manhattan 37 far more often, but this completely replaced the PRX. Good, but not great, is my verdict.
@joeltroughton3021
@joeltroughton3021 23 күн бұрын
I think the watch is great and the specs may not be amazing as far as it’s comparison the bracelets is so comfortable. Lots of 200$ watches in seiko market you’d need to replace the bracelets.
@gordanbabic8028
@gordanbabic8028 9 ай бұрын
this IS a budget watch and it looks great. except for this white dial version
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches 9 ай бұрын
In your opinion, not in mine though…budget watch is relative to, to people’s personal position and their perspective and in relation to other watches and prices but to label it the best budget watch of 2023 is not right
@miguelvictoria-boca573
@miguelvictoria-boca573 9 ай бұрын
Hey Gary, I agree with most of the things you said. If you find it for the right price (poor Americans), it's a nice watch. But you really should have picked another colour. 50% of the charme of this one comes from the vibrant colours. Cheers
@TheBigWrist
@TheBigWrist 9 ай бұрын
I paid $250 for mine. Great watch in that category.
@Stricko72
@Stricko72 9 ай бұрын
It's a good looking watch, I really like the red dialled gold version, but can't get over the bracelet, i know it will be really comfy and will fit great on your wrist (very similar to the one on my devil diver) but it's the style of it, and not being able to swap it out. Great watch but not quite good enough, Cheers for another great review.
@WrongTimeWatch
@WrongTimeWatch 9 ай бұрын
Apparently, I need to use more click bait titles for my videos and thumbnails. I was able to borrow a black dialed version for video presentation.
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches 9 ай бұрын
I some feel I need to as well…😂
@antimatt_r
@antimatt_r 9 ай бұрын
As someone who is (still) lusting over the the PRX, the Tsuyosa was kind of a swing and a miss to me. This video weirdly made me like it more 😂 I guess I just don't like when people are hyperbolic about anything
@MRbeqa100
@MRbeqa100 8 ай бұрын
This watch have one major issue and it's lack of 100m WR it's only 50 and i don't understand why, it is not a dress watch it's more sporty with loom and bracelet which is well integrated so let me jump in to the pool, if i can't swim with sporty watch than what's the point? i will go for proper dress watch....
@nedflanders3769
@nedflanders3769 9 ай бұрын
“It’s a Rolex killer … Really?!!” ROFL you crack me up Gary. Never change! 😊
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches 9 ай бұрын
Lol, glad you liked it
@villewintermaul1907
@villewintermaul1907 9 ай бұрын
The Casio MTPB145D absolutely kills this for a budget integrated bracelet watch! Got mine today😅
@crypt0gh0stph38
@crypt0gh0stph38 5 ай бұрын
Got mine today and the quality is awesome for $70.
@khalidyusof4078
@khalidyusof4078 5 ай бұрын
But too small only 35mm
@khalidyusof4078
@khalidyusof4078 5 ай бұрын
But too small only 35mm
@scottslater-nb5ch
@scottslater-nb5ch 25 күн бұрын
Yuck
@Makingnewnamesisdumb
@Makingnewnamesisdumb 9 ай бұрын
If they either made these 36mm and slimmed them up a bit, or used the miyota 8285 daydate movement, these could have been a lot nore special.
@MrMagoo-hf8yk
@MrMagoo-hf8yk 9 ай бұрын
Well Gary, You've never steered Me wrong before.....and today?....no different lol... I do have a 'soft spot' for a Citizen tho....
@williamb8764
@williamb8764 9 ай бұрын
The crown is an absolute nightmare. I bought one and it looks nice enough. But the crown was a pain in the a** to the point that you can’t even wind the damn watch if you have big fingers like mine. My bracelet was also squeaky af. Sold it pretty quickly.
@ercanbanka5377
@ercanbanka5377 9 ай бұрын
i think this is one of the things that makes this watch unique , i like it .
@SampleTracks2224
@SampleTracks2224 9 ай бұрын
First couple of minutes just highlights that 99% of the internet is absolutely full of shit.
@kieranpyne3271
@kieranpyne3271 9 ай бұрын
Nice looking watch. The sapphire cyclops looks fine to me!
@scottparis6355
@scottparis6355 9 ай бұрын
Well, I bought one of these, and while it's not awful, it's not all that great either. The dial looks nice enough, but the lume is entirely useless. Citizen could do better. The 4 o'clock crown is difficult to use, and has no real advantage. The caseback protrudes well below the bottom of the lugs, so the watch stands much higher than it ought to. It's effectively too thick. The quality of the bracelet is fine, but I find the 5-part construction more blingy than I like. Overall it's just OK, and I don't wear it as much as I should, given the rather high price. I have a bunch (too many) of relatively inexpensive Seikos that I like better and wear more. Not to mention a few Chinese watches that offer much better specs and design for half the money.
@antonhallergren588
@antonhallergren588 10 күн бұрын
I love it. Why? It is the essence of what my skx is. It is comfortable, looks good, is affordable (you van buy them for 250 bucks) and it's very versatile.
@wutang2549
@wutang2549 9 ай бұрын
Got this for 240€ but i would've never payed more than 250 for this. Its a great looking watch with nice specs but it is not worth 300 pounds or 400 dollars
@therealestatecuracao4441
@therealestatecuracao4441 9 ай бұрын
Hi Gary. I have one , with yellow dial. Like it very much. But the crown is to small and the rotor makes a lot of noice Greetings from 🇪🇸
@davepoole5582
@davepoole5582 9 ай бұрын
Great show Gary..... Very similar to an old school Seiko 5 ???
@RobinhoodarrowsRHA
@RobinhoodarrowsRHA 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for keeping it real (in all your videos) Gary 👍👍👍
@PickleToothpaste
@PickleToothpaste 3 ай бұрын
Recently I got my first automatic watch made by Jasnena Vlahova Design (jvd). It's a czech watch brand and gotta say it's a good watch. Sapphire glass too and runs without an issue. It's movement is seiko epson and I paid about roughly $250 and something
@franciscozaragoza7193
@franciscozaragoza7193 5 ай бұрын
It’s very nice but I don’t know about $400
@johng.6222
@johng.6222 2 ай бұрын
The four problems I have with this watch at this price point are number one the second hand is so thin as to be virtually invisible especially as it rounds at 12:00 position. Number two the two digit date is incredibly difficult to read especially with the cyclops which apparently has no advantage whatsoever. Number three the crown at the 4:30 position is impossible to wine manually with two fingers and is difficult to set the time in the third position. And last again at this price point having a stamped clasp instead of a milled one is ridiculous especially if a Chinese company like San Martin can do it for a lot less.
@vavoo4971
@vavoo4971 9 ай бұрын
I honestly think it's worth it if you manage to get one for around 200$.
@antonysmith9173
@antonysmith9173 9 ай бұрын
Nice enough looking watch,IF its not priced too much! But it does remind me of the earlier original Seiko 5,s. Keep up the brilliant reviews Gary.
@hattyfarbuckle
@hattyfarbuckle 9 ай бұрын
i have a soft spot for pressed clasp inners.. i slipped on the stairs about 30 years ago and my TAG bracelet caught and broke a pine spindle slowing me down and although the clasp inner twisted and needed replacing (about $40 at a TAG service centre back in the day) something had to give and i'd rather it was the clasp not the bracelet and certainly not me!
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches 9 ай бұрын
Holy crap, sounds very painful
@hattyfarbuckle
@hattyfarbuckle 9 ай бұрын
@@ilikewatches I was for the spindle😀
@jacc88888
@jacc88888 9 ай бұрын
Rolex used pressed clasps for decades, nothing wrong with them imo yet these days everyone moans how bad they are 😂
@williamthomas6106
@williamthomas6106 3 ай бұрын
I have a number of watches with the Miyota 8 series movement, and the indirect seconds hand drive for me is a pretty much a deal killer.. I have a Bulova Skeleton watch that has great looks, but that stutter in the seconds hand is just really annoying. I have several watches with Seiko NH34 movements and they simply outperform the Miyota 8 in everyway. I also have a Powermatic 80 based PRX that I purchased for on sale for $505.00. With my $120 non refundable cruise credit, my out of pocket went for $385.00 so it was a no-brainer. I think the PRX hype was over the top, but I also think the recent Anti-PRX hype is equally ridiculous. I'm sorry, but I have yet purchased a sub $1000 watch from Seiko or Citizen that matches the fit and finish of the PRX. The mix of finishing and attention to detail is off the charts. Both Citizen and Seiko have always made questionable choices in materials. I love my Seiko 5 GMT, but can't for the life understand why a $475.00 watch has to have a pressed metal clasp and mineral crystal. At one time, I hade a $250 Citizen that sported a Sapphire crystal when the $750 Skyhawk AT was mineral glass. (Citizen seems to be coming around on this front). I get it, the Swiss basically lost the war with the Japanese when they refused to acknowledge the impact that quartz technology would have on the watch market. But say what you will, in many cases the level of refinement you see in many Swiss watches is on the verge of obsessive, and it's for that reason that many Swiss manufacturers continue to rule the "high end".
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 9 ай бұрын
Its a nice watch ,,,, to call it ''king'' is silly. I really like it in white , if it was a couple of mm's thinner it would be epic.
@daithi1966
@daithi1966 Ай бұрын
The bright flat white dial is by far my favorite aspect of the watch. I just think it is a really pretty watch. It is a mechanical watch watch, with a sapphire crystal, and solid link bracelet for under $400 street price. I'm not going to lie, I really really like this watch.
@cunawarit
@cunawarit 3 ай бұрын
I came late to this review, but I do think they are some of my favourite watches of 2023. The are really beautiful.
@waynesellers4078
@waynesellers4078 9 ай бұрын
I would rather have this than the prx but I wouldn't pay full price. It's a solid watch that is about £100 too expensive.
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches 9 ай бұрын
I personally prefer the PRX but if you can get this watch for under £200 it is a great value good looking watch.
@waynesellers4078
@waynesellers4078 9 ай бұрын
@@ilikewatches I just find the prx is a bit wide where the case meets the bracelet.
@TerenceHughes4501
@TerenceHughes4501 9 ай бұрын
@waynesellers4078 You say it's £100 too expensive. So what mainstream high street brand offers a watch that is similar spec and costs about £200.
@waynesellers4078
@waynesellers4078 9 ай бұрын
@@TerenceHughes4501 just wait for a sale, seiko does exactly the same thing and so does citizen on their divers
@waynesellers4078
@waynesellers4078 9 ай бұрын
@@TerenceHughes4501 a quick search and I have found them from £60-100 off in different colours except the gradient dials.
@akiblue
@akiblue Ай бұрын
Saw this first time at the store this weekend, I didn't know citizen made prx homages. I was surprised at the details like display back, Sapphire crystal, and automatic movement. The date magnifier bothered me immediately, as well as the polished bezel . It just looked cheap (reminded me of the cheap chrome plated watches you buy at wallmart). The more I had it on my wrist, the more I noticed how cheap the dial looked. I understand why someone would buy this, but I just prefer the prx.
@snacklofter
@snacklofter 9 ай бұрын
Very fair review Gary👍👍 Unless the used prices are attractive I think I would prefer Jody's new watch!
@Goxilla
@Goxilla 8 ай бұрын
I own a PRX and the yellow dial Tsuyosa. The PRX has the better bracelet, dial, clasp and no cyclops. I barely wear the Tsuyosa but I still like it. It's no PRX killer at all though
@bendunn2732
@bendunn2732 7 ай бұрын
Hey Gary, thanks for the video as always 👍🏻 I just picked one up on a great price based off your review. At full price I would feel slightly underwhelmed but for almost half price it seems a lovely watch, shame about the unidirectional winding. It does have to be said though the crystal looks incredibly clear, perhaps its AR coating is responsible
@mrmyc0rn840
@mrmyc0rn840 9 ай бұрын
It's nice enough, i suppose. But why bother putting an integrated bracelet on such a vanilla watch? I'd rather have options for this one.
@Aries0098
@Aries0098 Ай бұрын
Well, I got mine for around $300. I live in SEA and definitely a budget option here.
@BarnOwl61
@BarnOwl61 9 ай бұрын
It is an attractive watch, the price is acceptable. It isn't Rolex quality, let's be honest. I like it, though 😊
@philspencelayh5464
@philspencelayh5464 9 ай бұрын
Seems very ordinary, I'd say a stuttering second hand sounds like a fault but I've heard a lot of them do it, not acceptable to me.
@nedflanders3769
@nedflanders3769 9 ай бұрын
The stuttering seconds hand is so dumb and cheap looking. What did they save, 2 pennies per unit by doing that? So lame.
@UKStevieB
@UKStevieB 9 ай бұрын
I bought mine thinking it would be a good watch and I don't feel at all disappointed, but I think if I had bought it thinking it would be a great watch then I might of felt let down. I got the 88L with the dark blue fume style dial, a lightly textured granular look makes it a tad nicer for myself as well though that is very subjective. Good watch, happy with it, but not a great watch.
@user-yv4jc9ty2k
@user-yv4jc9ty2k 9 ай бұрын
Had mine for about a year , can't fault it beautiful looking watch very reliable from a reputable manufacturer
@kennethg9277
@kennethg9277 5 ай бұрын
Plenty of beautiful watches for cheaper. Why pay more for a meh brand name?
@MultiFles
@MultiFles 3 ай бұрын
My first watch was Tissot gentelman. Blue dial, quartz. I love it. A few watches later, i fell in love with the PRX, tried it on, and it felt really cheap. I am sorry, but the bracelet feels too light. The whole watch has this cheap filing. And the lug to lug is really to big for my wrist. The small one looks funny. So yeah, Rolex killer no, but PRX killer,...
@raulbancroft2552
@raulbancroft2552 4 ай бұрын
It’s a very budget friendly appealing combination of the daydate (bracelet) and the OP (dial, hour markers), But they missed it on a few things, spending the money for a viewing caseback vs a solid caseback and putting the $ in a better clasp was a mistake for citizen, the crown is not great, and the cyclops is terrible, so yes it’s a sub
@cristiantrinca3140
@cristiantrinca3140 4 ай бұрын
I have 2 Tsuyosa's (black dial and tiffany) and i love them. Bought them second hand ofc, for 175 and 190euros (perfect state). Also got 2 PRXs. I love the Tsuyosa's alot and i want to buy the Two tone also. It's not PRX level.finishing, but it's definetely not far. I don't know what people can comment bad about this watch tbh. The cyclops it's decent also. For the price you can't really get anything better. I have a Seiko 5 SRPE and the bracelet is worse than the Tsuyosa's.
@shanephillips8735
@shanephillips8735 9 ай бұрын
NB1050 all day long, around the same money, but waaaay better
@TheGeekazoid
@TheGeekazoid 3 ай бұрын
i got the yellow dial i wear it i like it... lovely summer watch each to their own
@simon1003
@simon1003 8 ай бұрын
Cyclops windows are usually set to see the date when you tilt your wrist, and are therefore off centre. Many reviewers don't seem to understand this simple fact.
@glenncaukill1320
@glenncaukill1320 9 ай бұрын
I'm really pleased with mine , I went for the yellow dial, comfy , running at 2 seconds per day , recently sold a Rolex Submariner 2020 which was gaining 5 , seconds per day , I will be getting the pale blue version next
@vincentferreira1135
@vincentferreira1135 2 ай бұрын
$400 for +18 seconds per day? I’m normally not one to shit on a watch brand because of one person’s review, but that’s wild. I have $80 Aliexpress watches in my collection that are +/- 4-5 seconds per day. That’s nuts.
@Domingojazz
@Domingojazz 26 күн бұрын
I have a Tsuyosa, no complains about it, way better than a Tissot Swissmatic that I bought last year and payed the double...
@ninosalvati379
@ninosalvati379 9 ай бұрын
Really nice watch..£100 too expensive but it's coming down after the hype..certainly not a prx killer but the powermatic 80 is £300 more so you only have a quartz to compare it with...that said, the yellow is stunning and the prx could do with a dash of bold colour tbf...get this and the quartz prx and be happy 😊 great review
@el_puma_real
@el_puma_real 9 ай бұрын
I have this watch, got it on sale for $314 USD. I mainly bought it as a Summer watch, I got the light blue dial. Is it the greatest watch I’ve ever owned? Not even close. Is it a bad watch? No. Unfortunately some reviewers tend to over embellish and consequently and unfairly give this watch a bar it can never reach.
@golden1_1dragon12
@golden1_1dragon12 Ай бұрын
more like some reviewers tend to have a stick up their arse
@Steven-dw8ru
@Steven-dw8ru 9 ай бұрын
I have had my Tsuyosa for about a year and I think it is very solid for the money. I have a PRX, Tudor 1926, few Bulovas, etc. The PRX is a better watch all around than the citizen so I agree that people who make that claim are wrong. The clasp is the worst part of the watch by far. I feel if they were to just change that, the entire watch would feel better. The pressed clasp just makes you question other things more. The bracelet has some rattle to it but I think for the price it hits the mark. The one thing that has me curious is the hacking. Mine does not hack and it’s always bothered me about the watch. I have read they updated the movement, so I’m disappointed I have an older non-hacking version. Overall I think I paid $300 US and would call that a budget watch. I understand that line is different for everyone. I think your review is a very fair and honest one, so good work.
@fleatronic4062
@fleatronic4062 6 ай бұрын
I like this watch. I think it’s well positioned. The marketing point is the bright coloured faces. Mine is yellow and fills that gap in my collection.
@frazzl
@frazzl 6 ай бұрын
I quite like the orange dial version, and there are online Citizen ADs that sell it for significantly less than USD$ 500. Will definitely be picking one up eventually.
@datutturugang666
@datutturugang666 5 ай бұрын
i got the yellow variant, looks stunning under direct sunlight
@user-xd8tt9bv4l
@user-xd8tt9bv4l 11 күн бұрын
I own the PRX Chrono and the normal PRX, the Bulova Surveyor and the Tsuyosa....the are all better than the Citizen but I love the color of the dial, I got it as a birthday gift. It's good and nice but people like to overreact for views.
@Zotrax1946
@Zotrax1946 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this 🙏🏻👌🏻. It is overhyped.
@ilikewatches
@ilikewatches 9 ай бұрын
VERY!!!! but thankfully not by all reviewers, some reviews were balanced and fair I think.
@gwcrispi
@gwcrispi 6 ай бұрын
It's a good, not great, entry level automatic that is saved by some great color options. I'm getting the yellow one solely because it looks cool.
@valengreymoon5623
@valengreymoon5623 9 ай бұрын
A little PRX, a little Seiko, and a tiny bit of Rolex all rolled into one. A nice everyday piece.
@anuragkhosla
@anuragkhosla 7 ай бұрын
I’ve just ordered mine on a discount from H Samuel. Getting the black one at just £143. Now eagerly waiting for its arrival :)
@devstories-iv1mw
@devstories-iv1mw 7 ай бұрын
I would really like that Citizen makes a more quality version of this watch. Just add 100m water resistance and a better clasp, but I still really like it. It is such a timeless design and suited for almost every occasion. If you ask me, it looks better then gentleman, prx, alpinist or seiko 5.
@billgrisenthwaite3874
@billgrisenthwaite3874 9 ай бұрын
to be fair it,s quite a nice looking watch ,although having bought a prx I would'nt get this as well .Perhaps if you had a choice between the two you could argue the case for buying this and another £300 watch instead of one prx.I think I will stick with my tissot
@stefpix
@stefpix 9 ай бұрын
Can be found for $200/$250 so a lot cheaper. I have the yellow dial. +5 seconds per day. I like it. I just wish the bracelet was less rounded. It should be like the back of the bracelet.
@JSwatchesthings
@JSwatchesthings 9 ай бұрын
I love mine, the only complaints are the price I paid, and the crown is a little small for my digits, but I love the way it looks!
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