The Cold Steel OSS: Wasn't Thrilled, so I Modded It.

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Michael Rizzo

Michael Rizzo

Күн бұрын

I got this knife about a decade ago and never really "connected" with it in terms of feel and a few aspects of the design. So here's my impressions as it is in still mostly out-of-box condition, and then I do a bit of tinkering.
One thing that's visible in the thumbnail image but I didn't mention in the video (because I did it later after I'd handled it awhile) is I did a little reshaping to the Kraton grip, which can be done with a Dremel sanding drum (I've customized a lot of Hogue grips this way). The trick is to chill the rubber before you work on it.

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@ald.5147
@ald.5147 Жыл бұрын
Theres a story on youtube about a guy that killed a Cape Buffalo by stabbing it with his OSS.
@Punchy_Portuguese
@Punchy_Portuguese 10 ай бұрын
I use it hunt pigs here in Hawaii. I wanted a long blade with the finger groove guard. It's messy sticking pigs and your hand can slip down the blade very easily. Never had a problem on this knife. The blade is plenty of sharp outta the box and has only needed honing to keep it sharp enough for me. This knife has held up very well since 2010.
@4449John
@4449John 8 ай бұрын
Good to know. Blade was good for me as well, but have yet to do more than practice with mine. Your experience says a lot as adult pigs have a fair bit of hide to penetrate. Thanks for sharing. Mahalo.
@JoeSteel1
@JoeSteel1 2 жыл бұрын
Great work Michael, great that you have the skill to do what you do...
@Mark008able
@Mark008able Жыл бұрын
This knife sits very comfortably in a Large size spec-ops Brand Combat Master jump sheath and is a very versatile and light weight package overall. Interesting video, Thank you Sir.
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've come to really like the OSI single-edged version, and of course had to get a Black Bear Classic.
@ThirdoptionJCSU
@ThirdoptionJCSU Ай бұрын
@@michaelrizzo5523 Hello my friend. Looks like we're having a very similar collection of knives. Would you please tell me from your experience what dagger is the best for combat aplication?
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 Ай бұрын
@@ThirdoptionJCSU Long experience and personal nostalgia will always make me favor an original Gerber Mark II, preferably with a wasp-waist blade, but it doesn't really hold up build-wise to newer designs on the market. The Boker Applegate is a great choice, and I've heard good things about the Ka-bar EK, CS Tai Pan and SOG Pentagon, but don't rule out the classic Fairbairn Sykes. Depends on how it feels in your hands, how much blade length you want, etc. I've also reviewed some very slim Spanish and German single-edged "Bowies" that are very stiletto-like, some specifically designed to be actual pig-stickers.
@ThirdoptionJCSU
@ThirdoptionJCSU Ай бұрын
@@michaelrizzo5523 That is very impressive because just about 20 mins ago I've received an offer from the seller on Ebay regarding the 2ND pat Fairbairn Syke knife and I couldn't make up my mind between Ka-bar EK44 and British classic WW2 dagger. Ka-bar would probably have some more cutting ability unlike Fairbairn Sykes which is been made primarily for stabbing only If I'm not mistaken. If you would have to choose between those 2 which one would you prefer?
@ThirdoptionJCSU
@ThirdoptionJCSU Ай бұрын
@@michaelrizzo5523 Boker looks nice but it's bit costly .I have Gerber Commando in s30v but I don't know if that Commando just as good as old classic MarkII
@Tomikai-zc5kb
@Tomikai-zc5kb 6 ай бұрын
Not a bad job at all , was worried you were gonna remove the trigger which is what makes that particular knife a fighter.
@jorgefernandez6407
@jorgefernandez6407 Жыл бұрын
Some videos you just have to see twice! Thanks for the sheath modification tip. Did it to my Marauder's sheaths! I also like that OSS so it's on its way. Again Michael, great video!!!
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rnkmode1876
@rnkmode1876 8 ай бұрын
Imo the OSS would be excellent for piercing in an emergency defense situation because of it being so light, so would alot others as well, i recommend the Cold Steel Marauder too. That thing has a bit more weight to it and has an awesome clip point.
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 8 ай бұрын
I do really like the Marauder as an all-around use sizable blade, and is my favorite in this sub-hilt series. Otherwise OSI has been a better user knife than the OSS.
@RyanR-lw7fu
@RyanR-lw7fu 2 жыл бұрын
I really like these sub-hilt fighters and have owed a few of them including this cold steel oss. I got to handle an actual vintage Bob Loveless original at a knife show long ago and it's since been a dream of mine to add one of his to my collection (maybe when I win the lottery, lol). The kraton sub-hilt, while less pleasant aesthetically, is a general functional improvement imo. Finding a sub-hilt that is always comfortable and doesn't bite at all can be a challenge and a really good commissioned custom sub-hilt knife should be custom tailored to it's user's grip. This kraton is the next best, and Far more affordable, thing. Speaking of grips, I think handshake is how they are intended to be used. I really like to be able to fluidly transition to a reverse grip in my practice though and what I've found works well with these is to eliminate the sub-hilt altogether in a reverse by placing the bottom of the hand against the back/bottom of the sub-hilt. On most models my thumb then wraps comfortably over the end of the pommel and gives a sure and very controlled purchase. Thanks for highlighting the classic "sub-hilt fighter" design! It's one of my favorites and I'm always amazed when people who collect, use, and otherwise know knives have never heard of them. Great modifications, especially to the very questionable typical cold steel "secure-ex" or whatever they call their ridiculously over tight scabbards. I always put my own edge on any production blade but I seldom change the edge geometry much less the blade profile. Very bold of you, but I see the improvement and your satisfaction with your work. Anyhow, great video my friend! I love all your videos. Please keep em coming :)
@Jroc3578
@Jroc3578 6 ай бұрын
Im waiting on mine watching this video. I mistook the kraton for steel before purchase. It was a good deal but i got it primarily as i wanted one for collection for screw it reasons.
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 6 ай бұрын
These are affordable and functional. If you want steel guards, you have to go up to the Black Bear Classic, which sometimes you can find on a good sale for less than $200USD.
@magritteetmoncouteau
@magritteetmoncouteau 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the OSI a few months ago. This blade is now scary sharp and my superstitious brother thinks it has bad intentions of its own 😅 It's a sturdy piece of AUS8 and seems to be an amazing weapon. I may be buying a techlok for the sheath in the future. I was also looking into the OSS because I no longer have a true double edge knife in ly collection.
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people have recommended the Tai Pan, but I haven't picked one up yet myself.
@FLYFfly
@FLYFfly 4 ай бұрын
Not the best but yeah it has a good potential. For the price you actually get a lot. Also, can be used also as excellent “budget” fighting knife as a “sniper” when using two big knives.
@MrMZaccone
@MrMZaccone 7 ай бұрын
Cold Steel's "Secure-EX" sheaths are actually just glass-filled nylon and will dull the knife almost immediately.
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 7 ай бұрын
Yup, it's so damn frustrating! Why do they keep making them?
@MrMZaccone
@MrMZaccone 7 ай бұрын
They're cheap to make, being injection molded, and most people don't know the difference between genuinely sharp and bullshit sharp. Kydex is much better, being made entirely of polymer that is softer than the steel of the knife. The only drawback is that they almost have to be handmade and that costs money. @@michaelrizzo5523
@lucianbrad4291
@lucianbrad4291 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Actually is very easy to deploy CS knives if you press with your thumb on the margin of the sheath ... And is doable with one hand
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 2 жыл бұрын
This one was ridiculously tight until I adjusted it, and unfortunately for me that method is just not very right-hand doable with the ruptured thumb tendon and the arthritic carpals. I can pull it off sometimes with the Outdoorsman because there's a ramp to press against and the retention lugs are not so extreme. Just not built for me, I guess.
@OurOutdoorLifeDannyLorraine
@OurOutdoorLifeDannyLorraine 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome my friend, great work, thanks for sharing..
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@OurOutdoorLifeDannyLorraine
@OurOutdoorLifeDannyLorraine 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelrizzo5523 your welcome very much, take care...
@richardhenry1969
@richardhenry1969 2 жыл бұрын
It was south Africa and it was a men saving his father. Coldsteel is definitely capable of what they claim. That knife is designed for killing pigs. It's long and slim, for a reason. It's made to get to organs. When I was young I was told by the ww2 guys. I was a army ranger so I surrounded myself with old warriors to get stories. I remember one talking about the best knife for wet work. What knife fighting was called by old bad men. Anyway was a large bread knife or fillet knife. The reasoning was blade flex so it would go around ribs. Remember older steel would break. But I believe everything I was taught is still useful people just overlook. Anyway I think your knife is a well thought out killing knife. All Coldsteel sheath do that fake lock. I always push till it clicks then pull up. I do it now without thinking on my kubon. A knife doesn't have to be a 1/2 inch of steel. Nobody ever has knife duels. Most knives are way overbuilt in my opinion. Your knife looks killer. 😆 nice video
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 2 жыл бұрын
What most people think of as a "knife fight" hasn't been a thing for probably well over a hundred years, which is also probably why what's taught commonly as "knife self defense" usually isn't. Since even a sizable knife doesn't parry, anyone with any concept of using it is going to try to get right close on you fast and go for as much lethal penetration as they can get. What knives are best for these conditions sounds like a good video topic. Thanks! Also thanks for reminding me where I saw that video of the OSI in action!
@CSGraves
@CSGraves 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if the trend towards overbuilt knives goes hand in hand with the rise of stainless steels and higher Rockwell hardnesses? You could get away with a lot with a 1/16" thick piece of carbon steel at 54HRC, except maybe keeping an edge long.
@powerplay4real174
@powerplay4real174 2 жыл бұрын
That Sub Hilt cut off on them is a whole different animal , because you can go tip up or tip down , I got one now but I may need to get another to experiment with 🤔🗡️
@shadowrevival
@shadowrevival 11 ай бұрын
Great video Michael! I was wondering purely for self defense EDC, not for utility purposes, Which one is better, the OSS or OSI? Currently i'm rocking the cold steel SRK, and I don't think its enough for self defense.
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 11 ай бұрын
It depends on the techniques you favor. The OSS and Black Bear Classic have very light fine blades suited to thrusts, fast snap cuts and back cuts. The OSS and OSI are a bit lighter than the Black Bear for carry (and around half the price or less). I like the feel and utility of the more blade-present OSI, but it obviously lacks that back edge if that's something you make use of. The OSI would be more like the SRK, but the SRK is shorter and more solid blade-wise for utility use. I do plan to revisit the sub-hilt's functionality soon. Some people feel like it's in the way more than it helps, and on the OSS and OSI you could just cut it off. I hope that helped. Thanks!
@BrewCityRider
@BrewCityRider Жыл бұрын
I really like that mod you did to the sheath mouth. Maybe I missed it, but what did you use for that? A Dremel tool? If you want to reduce the retention a hair, just hit the nubs inside the throat with a dremel - very carefully as you don't want to take off too much material.
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 Жыл бұрын
Yup, I've delicately scraped down the retention "nubs" on a few of these sheaths. I used the wheel of a belt sander to remove the plastic from the mouth in an even curve, then cleaned it up.
@jorgefernandez6407
@jorgefernandez6407 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Not happy with any subhilts. Thinking of removing it from my Marauder. I have the same hand issues as you...
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think with this type of subhilt fighters? I always considered them a gimmick,and an hindrance to the grip.
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 2 жыл бұрын
It seems, for me, they look more awesome than they feel. The sub hilt is supposed to aid retention and create a "trigger" effect in handling, making for a quicker action in snap cuts and fencing-like applications. It's kind of like fingering the crossguard of a rapier. But it's pretty much designed for a handshake or saber grip, which gives a bit more reach (also by putting the hand slightly lower on the grip), but I get more power at close quarters in a hammer or icepick. Also, any kind of stock finger grooves on any grip never fit my hand size, so I suppose I'd need to have one sized and shaped for me. But it just didn't "take" with me enough to invest in a high quality version.
@OurOutdoorLifeDannyLorraine
@OurOutdoorLifeDannyLorraine 2 жыл бұрын
We came back, and subscribed my friend, awesome video, looking forward to seeing more, take care n play safe..
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, my friends!
@OurOutdoorLifeDannyLorraine
@OurOutdoorLifeDannyLorraine 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelrizzo5523 your welcome very much...
@QKVCS
@QKVCS 2 жыл бұрын
IMine get super sharp real easy ...doesnt hold it too long with use tho. I modified the sheath so I can get my index finger into the subhilt before pulling it out
@user-bp8zx4ve7p
@user-bp8zx4ve7p Жыл бұрын
I think it needs to add steel cross-guard if it is possible
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 Жыл бұрын
That's their Black Bear Classic which is an awesome knife but 4 times as expensive and hard to find.
@TheProHunting
@TheProHunting 2 жыл бұрын
Wasnt a charging water buffalo in ausrallia where guy juumped on the back and killed with one shot. It was south africa, wounded cape buffalo that charged the client, but the guide took the knock, saved the client, but now buff pinned him down and the son of that guide stabbed the buff 3 times because the client froze and also wouldn't give his rifle to anyone. But in all honesty, any knife of any half decent brand of similar design would do the trick. Colfsteel were just lucky and used that incident obviously...
@mohammedcohen
@mohammedcohen 10 ай бұрын
...mine was disappointingly dull right from the box...unfortunately...usually they're sharper 'n shit...
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 10 ай бұрын
I might have gotten a bad one. Dulling effect of the Secure-X sheath doesn't help.
@TheProHunting
@TheProHunting 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that this knife is more nostalgic, and obviously historically for "combat". I think it's beautiful and I would definitely purchase one (but not in coldtsteel) or I would have a custom job done...but would NOT consider it my primary knife as far as defence or combat/fighting is concerned. But yeah, I agree with most to all of your points. And in my opinion it's not the best fighting knife, but oh so beautiful! Nice review, thanks.
@nicholassanzo195
@nicholassanzo195 5 ай бұрын
My son carried it in Afghanistan
@MrSteveC
@MrSteveC Күн бұрын
Grabbing the sheath in one hand and the knife in the other to draw the knife isn’t the technique for this type of system you place your thumb on the sheath and give it a push and the knife will draw easily and quickly using only one hand.
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 Күн бұрын
Once I relief-cut the sheath to get a better grip on the knife and adjusted the fit, this became much easier. But something inside is still obstructing the blade on this one.
@powerplay4real174
@powerplay4real174 2 жыл бұрын
Black Bear Classic $247 on Amazon The Blade Emporium ⚔️currently ⚔️ Fabulous knife to own with Cold Steel San Mai vg10 core steel 😎
@powerplay4real174
@powerplay4real174 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping to find someone that can rehandle one for me with G10 or Micarta scales and do way with those rubber handle on one of my OSS knives and put a single metal guard on it also.⚔️🎱⚔️
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 2 жыл бұрын
Great minds do indeed think alike, my friend! I just bought it a few days ago, impatiently awaiting delivery!
@powerplay4real174
@powerplay4real174 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelrizzo5523 Your not going to be disappointed at all. Hope you can find time to talk about it at some point soon 🙂🎱🙂
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 2 жыл бұрын
@@powerplay4real174 I'll do an unboxing and initial impressions, and the I plan to invest some time into sub hilt technique.
@1985tjt
@1985tjt 11 ай бұрын
Africa not Australia 😊😂
@somaloignoto2988
@somaloignoto2988 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a knife worth talking about, so many good knives out there you really had to pick up the lowest of the low. Unbelievable
@anotherknifelover
@anotherknifelover Жыл бұрын
Hey knife snob. Seems that you have unlimited money for your hobbies but most don’t. I just wonder: why you are even watching the video?😂
@Eric-ux4wm
@Eric-ux4wm Ай бұрын
Its too big for the guy, no big deal.
@TheProHunting
@TheProHunting 2 жыл бұрын
I hate it when channels use the automatic heart like system. Its like you can say any maggot ass bleeding bullshit and still get a heart on that comnent
@ryangibson1901
@ryangibson1901 2 жыл бұрын
Lol the video is South African, man... Can’t you yanks tell the difference between South Africans and us Aussies? Shameful and embarrassing.
@michaelrizzo5523
@michaelrizzo5523 2 жыл бұрын
Apologies. I'd only seen a brief blurry snippet of the clip without sound, so I couldn't hear your gorgeous accents. My friends quickly set me straight, I found the whole thing, and fixed it on the next one. Is it bad that I see a bloke taking on a great charging horned beastie with a knife and my first guess is Aussie? Could've been worse: At least I didn't guess Yank. Cheers!
@Visiblyblue
@Visiblyblue Жыл бұрын
Us Yanks don't give a crap about the difference south Africans and Aussies. Seriously, we think more about the difference between a donut and a croissant. Piss off 'mate'
@modern-chiang-mai-pool-villa
@modern-chiang-mai-pool-villa Жыл бұрын
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