Is not an good argument because the fight among fans DC vs Marvel part from the fact actually DC ending copy the idea of an universe from Marvel. the relation between had nothing to do with the discussion, I can even argument Stan Lee friendship with Bob Kane had something more than kindred spirits in writing, Batman is in fact more close to ideas that Stan Lee himself could create, Batman is more likely Iron man and Dare devil archetype of character. since Marvel universe was created by Stan Lee, later creators collaborations was based on his universe, make them extremely rich, specially when mirrors real events. if something happens in fantastic Four the very mention on Spiderman o X-Men makes the people on those days to actually look at that source and obviously bought the comic book and the was a very profitable model. and there's always been like that even cartoons were created that way in the 80's and 90's, when movies comes out was not to hard to make that universe because for decades was created that way.... Bob Kane only create Batman the rest of the universe wasn't even conceived, the DC universe was later created when The Avengers and X-Men share universe become so popular and so profitable, DC Editorial commission a Stunt Damage control to create super heroes with no story lines relations to each other,the sad part is in fact Bob Kane and other original creators had nothing to share in that Stunt, Becoming a share universe with not necessary organic relation to each other that why is so often possible to see Batman and Superman as too different Genres in TV or movies.... DC universe unification back then was like make Rambo and Little women share the same universe and timeline the next You try to talk with not arguments about Fanboys now you know better...

CO-creators*

now they both are not here anymore :(

King Willis Batman (The Dark Knight) ^ Superman (Superman *obviously* ) ^ V (V For Vendetta) ^ Rorschach (Watchmen) ^ Tom Stall (The History Of Violence) ^ Mike Sullivan (Road To Perdition) ^ Frank Moses (RED) ^ Wonder Woman (Wonder Woman) ^ Flash (Flash) ^ Green Lantern (Green Lantern)

1:20 trolling again :D

David Grant-Williams now is Stan lee

And so Stan

David Grant-Williams Now Stan is too 😔

Surely, you jest! LOL! One of his assistants, SHELDON "Shelly" MOLDOFF has said that Kane's ego was the main force driving the success of Batman! He just wanted The Batman to be bigger than Superman ever was and he lived long enough to see it happen again and again! I think it's a tribute to his dad, who schooled him in running his comic strip and studio like a BUSINESS and too many of his attackers just don't get it, and that's why most of them are just journeymen! BTW Moldoff said that he worked with Stan Lee and Kane and said that of the two, Kane's ego was bigger and I believe him!

Gothamite1999 He seems troubled. Probably the reason he was able to create some of the best and most interesting characters in all of fiction with dynamic and true to life personalities :)!

Earth Linger Absolutely no question about that. :-)

Gothamite1999 The guy did create batman. I would say he has earned the right to be a little arrogant