I bought the Bayliner over the Tahoe for a few reasons. As an entry boat for someone wanting a low risk learning experience, the Bayliner is as simple as it gets. It's two pieces (hull and deck), removable fuel tank and battery. Super easy to maintain. Far more storage space in the Bayliner as everything under the seats is usable. Easy to clean, just spray down the deck and under the deck. The cushions that can fly off when trailering are the center cushions, not those described in the video. I don't use the center cushions as it provides full walk space bow to stern. M hull design has its trade offs, but is awesome when lounging and fishing. I liked the Tahoe, but the Bayliner was a better choice for me. This video is clearly a marketing hit piece poorly disguised as an unbiased comparison.

This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for!!!! More similar comparisons, please!

Even though this is a Tahoe commercial, it does seem like a better built boat. Swim deck, finished inside storage etc. However, the current 2022 base prices no longer make these boats comparable. Bayliner is $6k cheaper. Good thing I am super athletic :)

I have a 2022 bayliner m17. Very nice boat. Well thought out design and came with A LOT of options that I always wanted. The bimini is great for all day sun. It's a little bit of everything, pontoon/ski/fish. That's why I like it. Very wide and stable with lots of room. Rides across choppy water pretty good but if you want a all out tight turning ski/tubing boat get a v hull boat. I would buy another m17 or m18 but my family likes to chill and stay out all day. The price I paid for the bayliner was well worth it. Mine has a 90hp 4 stroke mercury and it has tons of power and more speed than I need. Stay safe boating out there!

While bias for Tahoe I appreciate this review. I actually had a deposit on the E18 and a friend made me aware of Tahoe's new T18. I looked into it and regretted my choice on the E18. But then being built in Mexico and the Covid factor it was 6 weeks behind committed date. The dealer agreed to let me switch to the T18 that they received. LOVE IT!

Excellent review. I owned the Element 16 for about a year and wish I had gotten more of a conventional V hull design. Bayliner calls it their M hull. The only advantage is that it's very stable at the dock or when not moving at idle in the water or at anchor. But because it's not a V that cuts through the water and pushes it to the side if there's even a moderate chop the boat smacks down onto the water such force that it'll knock your tooth fillings out. Very harsh ride. Plus I could see from the video that the finish looked at a higher level on the Tahoe. The Element was pleasant at anchor but not underway. I got exactly the same top speed as he did 31mph and it was sluggish to get on plane (I had the 60 hp Mercury) . I can't picture this boat ever being able to pull a skiier. If I remember the 75hp according to reviews did not add a whole lot of zip to the boat. If I got another boat in this class it would be a V hull and the Tahoe looks like it would fit the bill.

Justin you bring here an EXCELLENT video. Very informative. Thank you!

The hull design on the Tahoe is brilliant. The Tahoe appeared very trimmed up as opposed to the Bayliner. which may explain the bow ride, but I think that hull design bring almost a stability element like my old tri hull. Stable at speed and fishing

One positive for the Bayliner is the aft sundeck - it appears to be usable underway, while the one on the Tahoe is not. I liked your comparison, though I, like many others, noted you definitely have a Tahoe bias that seems to be a bit deeper than strictly the results of your comparison - better dealer margin, perhaps? Nonetheless, an informative video.

What a piece of video!!!! Thank you a lot all the questions answered in 6 minutes

Wow my mind is made up. Tahoe is the way to go. Thanks for that great informative video!!!!

This is a very biased video gearing towards the Tahoe. I've been doing quite a bit of research on these boats. The M hull design provides stability on the water that minimizing rocking and very easy to board. Therefore, does not lean when making turns. One thing, I did not really like is that the helm does not have a gas gauge on the bayliner. "Let me lift up the seat so I can see how much gas I have." Huh? They failed to mention how much more seating the Bayliner has. About 25 perfect more. That's pretty huge. That's about it for now. I'll keep you updated.

I have the ‘20 Tahoe 16 with the 75 Mercury. Super impressed with the boat’s layout, fit and finish. Easy to launch and load and tons of fun on the water.

Excellent video. And my vote for Tahoe 👍.

Thank for the info there building my Tahoe as we speak 👍🏾

I have my 2150 on order. I can't wait!

Yes! Finally! I wish more comparison's like this were out there. I used to own a 2006 Tahoe Q4 w/a 135 HP Optimax. Best boat I ever had. I still kick myself in the a$$ for selling. If I was in the market for a budget friendly boat, I would defiantly look into the Tahoe T16. I know Bayliners have come a long way from the 80's but Brunswick puts all cheap stuff in the Bayliners.

The Video is produced by Tahoe and of course skews in that direction. Why did the Tahoe not have the optional Bimini on it like the Bayliner did? Because, it slowed the planning speed and top speed of the Element so it was not apples to apples test but great marketing video.

Awesome video! Good to know a used Bayliner is the better boat

Informative but go deeper - I believe bayliner includes a trailerable snap cover - Tahoe is a ratchet cover and is an additional $700. I have a 2020 bayliner e16 - under powered with a 60 hp. Thier bimini top was $500 - the Tahoe bimini is $1250. Thats almost $2000 for a couple of aluminum poles and canvas. I appreciate the no haggle on the Tahoe - But I aint paying an extra 2k for covers! Thats almost pure profit - I'll negotiate those on the Tahoe or they can give me more for my trade - or i'll just keep the bayliner and maybe up-power to 75. Stay tuned. Also the battery location for the tahoe is awkward - direclty under the driver and access through rear seat panel and you have to reach in...minor details perhaps but important - also it should come with a battery shut-off switch - not standard as it is in the bayliner. Still - a lot to like about the Tahoe in terms of comfort, design ,and quality.

The 2023 Tahoe now has a fully digital guage cluster. Touch screen. Looks really cool!

The part in this video where turn seems to skid/slide vs. turn 'gently' is due to the hull design and creates a situation where the boat doesn't lean. For those newer to boating, this might be a sales pro instead of the implied con it is in this Tahoe marketing bit. Also, the 'step on cushion' issue doesn't exist. You can remove that cushion on the standard cooler/live well or use it as a seat. I have an Element 21 Fish version which sold me. I have both a deck boat and a fishing boat.

Well done!

Tahoe ftw 🙌🏾 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I’m not smart, but I know which one I would choose: Tahoe!

I ordered my Tahoe T16 with the black hull and red trim, 75HP engine, fish live well and bimini top.. I just got the call today that its in. I look forward to etting it out ( still a little cold but I ordered it months ago covid).

Thanks. Would like to see the comparison with Tahoe 450 and 550 vs bayliner. Very informative.

Location of production sold me. It looks like a fun boat.

Hard to trust the performance comparison. Bayliner Element series does not porpoise unless you have the motor trimmed too far up...like any other boat.

I made my choice at the 30 second mark....Made In America baby....

I would have considered the Tahoe but Bayliner makes an 18’ and 21’ also and that extra space sold us.

I won a 2021 t16 from the price is right. Will get it in 8 to 10 weeks! I’m excited it’s gonna be my first boat 😁

can you make another video like this comparing the M-17 Vs the T-18!?

Love the part about when you let go of the steering wheel, so typical of a Bayliner, try docking a Bayliner on a windy day...

Great marketing. The choice seems clear.

I bought a Tahoe 700 limited last year. 6.2 liter v8 300hp with the corsa exhaust. folding wake tower and bimini top. deep v hull. this thing tops out at 56 with just me and a quarter tank of fuel. seats 9. plenty of storage, plenty of power, and very easy on the eyes. if your buying a first boat spend a little extra and go for the tahoe. I saw a lot of negative reviews on all brands, tahoe included. my typical day at the lake is from 9am till the sun goes down. this boat has met and exceeded most needs.

No mention of the price difference. I've been shopping and the Bayliner is actually available at dealers for a much better price.

What are the trailer dimensions?

So the removable back rest in the Tahoe can only be used from one sitting angle? If you are leaning back, how does the other passenger behind you sit? Looks like the back rest works only in one direction.

I don't care either way, but noticing that the video was produced by Tahoe it makes me wonder about a few things during the performance tests: what prop was on each motor? Where was the motor trimmed during the holeshot test? How was the motor trimmed during that clip showing how the boats handled chop? It looked like the Bayliner was porpoising which is a trim issue, not hull design. As I said, I own a Lund so I don't care either way in this comparison, I just noted some details that were left out which would impact these results. I did enjoy the comparison video, I would just like to see a few more details included for clarification.

When the video shows Bayliner is raising at the front more have a look at the Tahoe front how it tapers down on top of course it's going to be different

damn never thought much of the bayliner anyway but performance from that tahoe blew me away

I wish these prices were still current

Excellent points. My big question is over the power. I will be buying a 16 foot boat soon (16' so it will fit in my garage), however, am afraid to purchase a Mercury OB. Any thoughts? Thanks

Does the TAHOE offer a rack for towing?

Do those prices include the trailer?

I have the E-16 with 75hp and owned many boats of various sizes over thirty years. It is a decent low end boat. But there is one addition that makes is a much better boat and that is trim tabs. Boat gets on plane much faster and does not porpoise. It is like a entirely different boat with the trim tabs. The cushions are a bit of a PITA, but three years later they are at least still holding up quite well.

Are either of these good for the bay which can be a little choppy some days?

I ordered my T16 a few weeks ago 👍

In California, I have never seen a 16 ft Tahoe boat offshore. Bayliner ski boats go out all the way to the Coronado island and Catalina Island. lol

I wanted a Tahoe but no one from the company would call me. So I bought the bay liner

This Tahoe video is no longer accurate. The Tahoe is certainly the better boat; however, you can still get a new bayliner for 16k but Tahoe raised the price of the T16 to 21k. That is a 25% increase! I no longer consider that an affordable entry level boat. I’m aware of how crazy inflation is now but that seems ridiculous for a boat this size.

Cost???

I’d buy the Tahoe just because I like to support American companies where I can. 🇺🇸

Where can I find a Tahoe T16 at MSRP in California???

I have a feeling this guy owns Tahoo! lets see a video with the owner of Bayliner...

Bayliner is stable as a rock where the Tahoe will be..Rockin...I know...I take my Bayliner 16 miles offshore fishing..more stable than my 21 footer...

When you 1st see the overhead shot of both boats the Bayliner looks larger..the E16 Boats like an 18 footer...

Why do you say welds on the trailer are going to last longer?

This is a good video, except the part where you let go of the wheel. You want the boat to make a turn when you let go of the wheel, that is by design. If you get thrown out of the boat you want it to circle back to you instead of going straight.

The video is comparable with a situation where a Mercedes guy compares a C class to a 3 series and comes up with the C class as the clear winner. After all, the KZfaq channel’s name starts with the winner brand 🤣

I own the Element 16 and it has a back cushion for shorter drivers, you can see the snaps above and below backrest i video. Also, this video is very bias towards the Tahoe. Element planes way faster and i dont have porpoising issue at wot unless i overtrim.

Is there an infill cushion for the bow for the Tahoe?

Tahoe

Sadly, the prices on these have skyrocketed in comparison.

2021 now and the Tahoe boat price jump to $20,000. its not worth.

gee... do you work for Tahoe??

Make a t18

This is the the perfect example of a biased review!

Good video. Buy a t shirt that isnt 3 sizes too small next time.

Sucks they don't make T18 or T20

Haha great marketing 😂

Why wouldn't you test the 75hp? Maybe because the Bayliner performs better? Paid Tahoe actor.

Nice comparison but one comment. Why would you power turn to pick up a down skier other than in an emergency? Power turns are fun, but send rollers (even from small boats) in all directions. For example: With overhead video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bsWRqpmp28i3cWQ.html

Had the element for a couple years, it’s a bitch to load onto the trailer because of its m shape haul.

I been saying "made in the US, that is why its sooo expensive" but i just saw where those boats are made" In Mexico" ha ha. i was wrong. they pay Mexican laborers $10 US a day to build those boats. and they bring the boats to the US to sell them for tons of money. h

The Tahoe t16 is $25k now lol

A Tahoe biased review sponsored by Tahoe. Seems legit.

i see only ONE advantage is fuel gauge

Is the bayliner really that crap or is this very biased?

So.... Tahoe

Bet I can RIP the Tahoe dash an steel wheel off in seconds guess how I know lol

lol people this video is made by Tahoe do you really think this is a good comparison

tahoe's trim is adjusted far far differently than the bayliner. this is clearly a Tahoe commercial. thumbs down

Bayliner is the cheapest boat brand. If Tahoe makes a comparison with Bayliner, that means Tahoe is also a cheap brand

Wow the "no haggle" price for just the 60 HP went up to $19995!!...Thanks, Biden!!

Hmmmm.... biased much?

Bayliner's still making crap I see 🤦

How embarrassing for bayliner