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The Complete Xenoblade Timeline - Part 2: The Miltian Conflict

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The second in a series covering the timeline of the entire Xenoblade franchise, this video covers everything taking place before the Xenosaga games until the Miltian Conflict. Thanks to Enel for the voice over!
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0:00 Lost Jerusalem
2:22 TC 0001 - TC 4000
4:36 Release of the U.M.N.
7:00 Life Recycling Act
7:58 Events of Pied Piper
14:10 Pied Piper Aftermath
15:37 The Zoar Incident
16:28 U.R.T.V. Creation
21:11 Sakura's Illness
22:28 Michtam's Destruction
25:16 Miltian Conflict Lead-Up
38:05 The Miltian Conflict
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@hugenose8824
@hugenose8824 5 ай бұрын
“The Xenoblade Timeline: The Miltian Conflict” There are no words to describe just how surreal it is to see that title unironically. What time to be a Xeno fan.
@EvilMike349
@EvilMike349 5 ай бұрын
I'm just so happy that the main Xeno KZfaqrs are fully accepting the saga connections and the fact that it should all be mostly canon at this point. Right after FR released, I was concerned about the amount of X copium I saw going around and Luxin even expressed some worry about people getting too set on X connecting rather than saga. I fully believe they'll connect X in some way eventually, and I'm sure it'll be awesome, but blade connecting to saga is arguably the most exciting thing that's ever happened
@lipstickwines1003
@lipstickwines1003 5 ай бұрын
No way I literally just finished xenosaga and watched part 1 of your timeline like yesterday
@captianblitz
@captianblitz 5 ай бұрын
It’s back? ITS BACK
@estebangamer636yt2
@estebangamer636yt2 5 ай бұрын
Yes, it's back!
@SBaby
@SBaby 12 күн бұрын
3:33 - The People of the Zohar, or as they call them in Gundam, Spacenoids.
@SearchmanDS
@SearchmanDS 5 ай бұрын
A very important piece of the history right here
@99flower99
@99flower99 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this in-depth breakdown! With so much going on across the different series, it’s hard for me to keep track of everything. >.
@gamezx
@gamezx 5 ай бұрын
Ok so my running theory (and probably where you're going) is that when klaus did the experiment, it created the bionis in 1 pocket dimension and threw the earth (becoming alrest) into another pocket dimension, while the rest of the universe carries out as normal as the saga universe. So yeah i'm definatly of the mind that was the final scene of saga playing at the end of future redeemed and so origin recreated the earth back in the material world right as saga ended. Which interestingly would also tie in perfectly with a line in xenosaga (from chaos i think?) saying something like "the key to escape the universes destruction lies on lost jerusalem", as earth in now in the possession of origin, a machine that literally rebuilds worlds even after universal scale annihilation events. Interestingly this means that chaos was aware of what was going on in aionios, knew about origin and the fact it was gonna return to the material world, which raises a number of questions in itself That said, there is quite a few more questions that still need ironing out too. Like how does the timeline add up with both zanza and wilhelm resetting time numerous times while alrest never went through that. Also what about all the time in aionios which was atleast 1000 years, maybe a few thousand. Did that time actually pass or did it all happen in an instant when origin activated. Somehow to make this work, you gotta make all of the xenoblade games add upto the same amount of time as the xenosaga story to end at the same point You said that when klaus's experiment happened, they picked up the zohar where the earth used to be but then what about the zohar in XB2? How do you explain that being there if it was in the saga universe and where did it vanish to after the end of XB2, that still needs clearing up. For the longest time i was under the impression that the conduit went to wherever ontos was with the fog beasts given his stupid amount of power but that still doesnt quite add up if the zohar is known to be in the saga universe all that time Speaking of the fog beasts, i still dont think i really understand them at all. They're clearly meant to be the xenoblade's version of the gnosis but if that's the case, there's gonna need to be explanations on that and how ontos came to be controlling them. And then i guess if ontos controlling them would mean anything for the gnosis in the saga universe too Still not sure i understand what's up with wilhelm either. He's just this god like being who can bring people back from the dead but why? Its not like he's just controlling a simulation of the universe like Z, so how does he have Z like powers in the normal universe I've always found it interesting how alvis looks alot like chaos, you think its possible chaos was there at the rhadamanthus station and played a part in creating the aegis cores (or atleast ontos)? Also kos-mos being in xb2 has always seemed weird to me. Sure you can dismiss stuff like shulk or telos as non canon easter eggs since they're dlc, but kosmos being a blade was base game. Plus she was given cutscenes where she seemed to have direct knowledge of how the beanstalk was constructed, coupled with klaus saying "blades are the memories of all this planets former inhabitants", her being there is just peculiar. Maybe somehow she could have been a kosmos left over from one of wilhelm's universe restarts? I'm guessing after saga would come xenogears given the connections between those games. But what about xenoblade X, how does that come into it? Atm i'm really liking the theory that mira is actually another aionios created with origin seeing how its literally pieces of extinct home worlds smashed together and apparently in a space that cant be escaped from. But the backstory with earth being destroyed by an intergalactic war seems to directly contradict with saga's story of aliens not existing. The fact its called earth and has earth location names (which should be long gone from history of both bionis and alrest) is just strange. And thats not even starting on whatever the "ghosts" are
@chrislennon460
@chrislennon460 5 ай бұрын
"I'm guessing after saga would come xenogears given the connections between those games. " ~> there are no connections between those games.
@gamezx
@gamezx 5 ай бұрын
@@chrislennon460 They literally have abel show up as a character who was the boy that originally connected with the zohar in gears. The similarities between nephilim and elly cant be overlooked either, they even have the same iconic necklace Plus its well known that after xenogears fell through, they came back with xenosaga telling an earlier part of the same perfect works story. So give or take a planet name, it was clear this was still them trying to continue the same story they planned out If you're able to connect up xenoblade and saga, you can certainly connect up gears as well for a complete story
@Elvisbackpack
@Elvisbackpack 5 ай бұрын
A form of Gears could happen in the SagaBlade universe, but there's also some timeline troubles and I think a Zohar problem.
@KrimsonKattYT
@KrimsonKattYT 4 ай бұрын
Zanza never reset time. What Zanza did was use the Telethia to perform a mass extinction event of all intelligent life every 1000 years or so and then start over with new creations. This was so the races technology never got too advanced so that the people could leave Bionis which would kill Zanza since then Zanza could never recycle their lifeforce to fuel himself and birth new life. It was never a "reset of the universe" with Zanza. That was a mistranslation. As for Wilhelm, all of Xenosaga/Xenoblade is the current cycle. There were countless cycles beforehand that went perfectly according to Wilhelms plan and were reset back to the origin of the universe with Zaraustra where things played out similarly yet very differently. All of Xenoblade and Xenosaga takes place in the current cycle which is inumerable cycles into the process. And finally as for Aionios, all of that world's history took place during the 1 second period that time was stopped. After Origin was reset the universes continued colliding and instead of destroying each other they fused back together and reconstructed in the real number domain. All the characters in Aionios, including the "origin avatars" as the fandom calls them like Rex, Shulk, Melia, Nia, and potentially Riku that do not age, are clones of the original versions with cloned souls as well. Noah and Mio in XB3 aren't actually Noah and Mio but clones of them. Even Rex and Shulk are just clones including cloned souls and considering that Rex and Shulk become the new Pneuma and Logos cores respectively at the end of FR it's safe to say that post-XB3 Pneuma/Aionios Rex and the "original Rex" can coexist and the same goes for Shulk. At the end of XB3 the simulation of Aionios ended and everyone in it perished. Their memories/souls returned to their original bodies (minus Rex and Shulk who's souls were cloned) and time resumed as normal with everything that happened in Aionios being like a dream. Xenoblade 3 was a meta-spiritual battle between embodiments of hope and despair, of change and stagnation, where every character were avatars of concepts. It was a physical journey with physical characters.
@Worthless-one
@Worthless-one Ай бұрын
First of all, I'm loving this discussion, even if it’s only a couple comments in right now! Second of all, my opinions/theories are: (A) The Zohar exists simultaneously in multiple dimensions, because it's a 'gate', hence why it's in Saga and Blade. (B) Could it be possible that XB X is in another cycle (prior or after that of Blade/Saga), using the same souls from the Collective Unconscious, which is why there are similarities but no connection? I haven't looked into Gears much yet, so I can't really comment on that part tho. (C) Going out of order a bit, on the timeline part, my understanding is that XB1&2 take place simultaneously with 3 being time slowed to a crawl so slow that it is incomprehensible (which is why annihilation events are happening at all, and that people can move around, things which shouldn't be possible if time was actually frozen and not moving at all), ending with the universes of 1&2 finally merging and re-emerging into Saga's universe Thirdly, the part about KOS-MOS being in XB2 is an interesting point. Especially considering she was created well after Earth / Lost Jerusalem was sent into it's own dimension. (unless I'm understanding incorrectly? In which case I would appreciate being humbled) Fourthly, in the opening cutscene of XB3, we see multiple instances of what looks to be other "universes"(?), with some also merging too (iirc), before we zoom into Aionios. What could these others be? (Maybe Gears, X, or simply other universes of existence created by U-do, assuming the multiverse?)
@XanderW7381
@XanderW7381 5 ай бұрын
Another banger, looking forward to the rest of this series
@Michail_Chatziasemidis
@Michail_Chatziasemidis 5 ай бұрын
I can't wait for part 3
@Shazam1414
@Shazam1414 2 күн бұрын
I need that 3rd video soooo bad. LOL
@JustJulyo
@JustJulyo 5 ай бұрын
Monolith Soft should hire you!
@mythicalmew6054
@mythicalmew6054 5 ай бұрын
Hoo boy. At this rate, you'll be finished with this series before I finish that document of mine! Great work on this series btw, I'll give a full watch later and my own review! So far it's pretty accurate, but I'll have to do an in-depth dive soon!
@waltlock8805
@waltlock8805 2 ай бұрын
Very well done. Xenosaga is the greatest space opera, and one of the greatest stories ever told. It's a shame how few people got to play the games.
@benschaloff2550
@benschaloff2550 Ай бұрын
I need the next part ASAP
@Michail_Chatziasemidis
@Michail_Chatziasemidis 5 ай бұрын
Finally!! 🎉 Hooray!!
@Diamoondust
@Diamoondust 5 ай бұрын
LETS GOOOO I JUST WAS WONDERING WHEN U WOULD RELEASE IT AND I GOOGLED IT
@XenoBits
@XenoBits 5 ай бұрын
Of course, if you subscribe and click the notification bell, you'll always be informed of my uploads 😉
@Diamoondust
@Diamoondust 5 ай бұрын
@XenoBits im subbed but i have all notifs off for yt to not get distracted 😭
@Diamoondust
@Diamoondust 5 ай бұрын
@@XenoBits i do come every month or so to check tho
@texben123
@texben123 Ай бұрын
There’s also something else Zohar in multiple places at once, because it’s in the Xenoblade pocket dimension, in Xeno saga in the rest of the universe, and in Xeno gears on a planet on the edge of galaxy. It’s literally in three places at once before the emulators were made. Which means it could be at any time period Because It disappeared, from the Xenoblade pocket dimension, and reappeared in empty space in Xeno saga and exactly the same time. my theory is that time flows differently for it, because it wasn’t on earth though but yet it’s on earth in all three games. Somehow, the Zohar pretty much left earth, appeared on earth, causing it to disappear because of Klaus’s experiment, then reappeared in normal space 4000 years later.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@VIInOni
@VIInOni 5 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, Xeno time
@elatkercola6635
@elatkercola6635 5 ай бұрын
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@texben123
@texben123 Ай бұрын
So Willhelm created the pocket dimension for Xeno blade universe well miniature universe. for 4000 years
@lipstickwines1003
@lipstickwines1003 5 ай бұрын
Enel jumpscare
@texben123
@texben123 Ай бұрын
Do you know this game Lore can be a bit confusing, when it comes to God and U-DO mainly because at first I thought it was God, then it was clarified that the Zohar is God or the consciousness inside of it. And then I assumed U-DO was same species as God, but my original theory was actually correct. It’s just a game made confusing.
@MrStarman926
@MrStarman926 Ай бұрын
absolutely torturous to discover this series only two parts in. how many do you think there will be total?
@XenoBits
@XenoBits Ай бұрын
The roadmap currently has 10 parts total. That's subject to change, obviously, but it's the number I've been working with. I can safely say that development on them will be speeding up now since pre-Saga lore is much more nebulous than Blade lore. Part 3 should be expected as the next upload.
@CloudyChances0
@CloudyChances0 5 ай бұрын
FYI, it sounds like the audio cuts out for a sec at 26:30
@XenoBits
@XenoBits 5 ай бұрын
Man, I must have watched through this video 10 times, and I still didn't catch that. Well. Just another thing to fix for the supercut.
@WaldysProject-vg5tm
@WaldysProject-vg5tm 5 ай бұрын
Ho yes
@laziness6641
@laziness6641 4 ай бұрын
I wonder how you tie Xenoverse into this
@ZegZegZegZeg
@ZegZegZegZeg 5 ай бұрын
Ok but when’s the missing year remaster dropping?
@XenoBits
@XenoBits 5 ай бұрын
One day.
@ZegZegZegZeg
@ZegZegZegZeg 5 ай бұрын
@@XenoBitsvery excited for it it’s gonna fill in a big hole in accessible Xeno content you guys are doing great work
@iota_4
@iota_4 5 ай бұрын
i cannot decide whether i want to watch this video or not because if i do it might ruin xenosaga for me but it also might not so i dont know, what do you guys think should i watch it or no coming from someone whos never played saga or gears for that matter
@rikibdgd4764
@rikibdgd4764 5 ай бұрын
play them first
@XenoBits
@XenoBits 5 ай бұрын
Playing them is probably the way to go, as much as my analytics would love to have your watch time.
@iota_4
@iota_4 5 ай бұрын
@XenoBits alright, I shall return once I have beaten gears and saga. Thanks for the warning 👍
@rikibdgd4764
@rikibdgd4764 5 ай бұрын
@@iota_4 tell me when
@iota_4
@iota_4 5 ай бұрын
@@rikibdgd4764 i assure you it wont be for a very long time
@texben123
@texben123 Ай бұрын
Yeah, but it’s called the galaxy Federation which means they only colonized a bunch of galaxies, and colonize 500,000 worlds, right when the universe has billions or trillion of worlds that can be colonized, And that’s just a rough estimate on how big the universe is. Because I think they colonize about , half of the universe. not the whole thing. well, that’s just my head canon.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@mysteriouscolours1532
@mysteriouscolours1532 2 ай бұрын
14:53 why is the background music greensleeves?
@saveriobontempi8603
@saveriobontempi8603 2 ай бұрын
In Xenosaga I this version of Greensleeves plays during a cutscene
@HunchbackOfNotreJon
@HunchbackOfNotreJon 5 ай бұрын
I'm not sure how on board with the idea that Klaus exists in the Xenosaga timeline. My approach to the continuity between the different Xeno series is an evolution of universes within an eternal recurrence cycle. For example, we might call Shion an incarnation of Elly's soul. Or the progress from grotesque chimera mutations and extremely limited mechanization of humans in Gears to naturally occurring chimera properties and biomachinery through the destruction and recreation of information observed by U-DO. If this holds true, I would suspect Klaus to be an incarnation of Wilhelm, similar to how Zanza is an incarnation of Klaus and Mayneth is an incarnation of the researcher who tried to stop him. As such, Klaus presumably would not be on the same timeline as Wilhelm because Wilhelm is in an earlier, less advanced universe. I don't know if MonolithSoft is considering it a part of the Klaus arc, but even if we're to believe all Xeno games are canon (I do), I don't think one series will happen on the same set of universes as another. So Gears, Saga, Blade, and X would be the different "arcs" so to speak. The placements are distant enough that they don’t narratively lead into each other so directly. I think the assumption tends to be that 1-3 are so closely tied that all connection to past entries must be linked together with the same closeness. It's an infinite loop, we won't see every universe on it.
@XenoBits
@XenoBits 5 ай бұрын
I respect your opinion, but I entirely disagree with your line of thinking. The idea that Eternal Recurrence changes the universe as much as you suggest doesn't make much sense to me. Neither does Xenogears in any way being connected to the lore of Saga and Blade. Elly and Shion are two completely different characters and this idea of "soul recycling" through Eternal Recurrence is just not a concept that has ever been present. I also think that the extraneous material makes it pretty clear that Wilhelm exits in every incarnation of the universe, so to suggest that Klaus is another Wilhelm is pretty wild to me, especially considering that Klaus is just a regular guy and Wilhelm is a literal force of nature who has lived for trillions of years. In my opinion, Future Redeemed made it very clear that Monolith intends to bridge the gap between the two series. Of course, there's always the possibility that I'm wrong, but I truly don't think I am.
@HunchbackOfNotreJon
@HunchbackOfNotreJon 5 ай бұрын
@XenoBits Actually, my line of thought on Wilhelm and Klaus came from assuming the creator had to be Wilhelm, but Klaus creating a universe doesn't necessarily mean he's a Wilhelm stand-in. So, fair enough on that. I know Shion and Ely are different characters. A better example of it would be like how Vandham from 2 and Vandham from 3 are clearly not the same person, but the association was very, very deliberate, and Guernicca has more than a name in common with his predecessor People do tend to associate Ely and Shion on an abstract cosmic level for their physical and some personality similarities, but that's a bit less clear than Vandham. It's not like duplicates are out of the question, lest we forget the plots of Gears and 3 or that the point of Origin was to create backup copies. Like, we unironically have multiple examples of universes that duplicate people from other universes via Origin and Mira, or Zanza and Meyneth. I couldn't really think of a better term than soul recycling, but I think most of the Blade stuff is more sci-fi digitization. I would suspect pre-Gears would be spiritual/natural while Blade 3 is science/technology, so a soul reincarnation eventually evolved to become a full digital reincarnation. You can basically trace biological and technological evolution from Gears to Blade 3, despite their timelines not being very compatible in chronology. I think the eternal recurrence itself is closer to Noah and Mio always finding each other. The finer details of how are less important than the "fated encounter." This should follow the line of thought that the iterations of the worlds build off each other. What I took from Future Redeemed's confirmation of Saga and X was that it's a universe that's blended Saga and X, not that Saga and X are the same universe.
@chrislennon460
@chrislennon460 5 ай бұрын
gears is not connected to anything else. the universe's structure is well laid out in the lore, and is completely incompatible with the universe structures laid out in the other series. @@HunchbackOfNotreJon
@HunchbackOfNotreJon
@HunchbackOfNotreJon 5 ай бұрын
@chrislennon460 Xenosaga and X are incompatible, but Future Redeemed canonized both. How do you explain the inconsistencies between X and Saga while also accepting Future Redeemed's canonization of both? What is the universe structure that prevents this explanation? Aliens don't exist in Saga, so it would be impossible for Earth to be destroyed by warring alien races ala X. Mainline Blade titles ahow Klaus destroy Earth, conflicting with X more. Do you accept X and Saga to both be canon? How? What makes Gears so different from those? My point is that just because Saga and X have been canonized does not mean they have to be all the same rigid set of universes that are linked directly. They come off far more likely to be separate universes at varying points on the cycle. One may lead into another, but that would suggest the possibility of worlds/universe/whatever in between.
@chrislennon460
@chrislennon460 5 ай бұрын
future redeemed name dropped some references, it did not yet canonize anything as being connected. could they connect them going forward? yes. have they already? not really. unless you feel things like lucca being in xenogears means it is the same universe as chrono trigger. I do not accept X or Saga to be canon, but i do think they are compatible enough with xenoblade 1-3 to be retconned, by the writer, to become canon. If you do not understand the structures of the xenogears or xenosaga universes, you should replay xenogears as the universe is explained in game, and you should read xenosaga episode 3 perfect guide as it shows the structure of that multiverse. both series' universes, their origins, their structures, their god like beings, etc are all perfectly outlined without much room for head canon to fill in blanks. @@HunchbackOfNotreJon
@lazypines
@lazypines 5 ай бұрын
this is literally not xenoblade at all lmao. Xenobits you make great videos but cmon man
@GregCaldwellPlays
@GregCaldwellPlays 5 ай бұрын
He’s clearly not finished with explaining the timeline maybe have a bit patience
@MakoTenseii
@MakoTenseii 5 ай бұрын
It is now
@chrislennon460
@chrislennon460 5 ай бұрын
for now, it is still just references. until more is made, its just some name drops. they have reused names and made so many references through out all of the franchise without connecting anything in the past. it will take a LOT of retcon to actually connect them. @@MakoTenseii
@Riku2005
@Riku2005 4 ай бұрын
This series is hot fucking anime weeb trash. But I still play it
@elatkercola6635
@elatkercola6635 5 ай бұрын
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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