Bragging about being a savage?

@@silentmajority8365 No, it was a joke and if has to be explained to you, then you probably lack a proper sense of humor.

@@silentmajority8365 After Captain James Cook was killed in a skirmish with Native Hawaiians in 1779, his ships opened cannon fire on "savage" villages (just like how the Luftwaffe dropped bombs on Cook's island nearly two centuries later).

@@user-lvqk2wdp8sjn My point is you can stop crying about long dead white guys Literally whites brought them into the 21st century Hawaii was the first state to allow Gay marriage So if they don't like Hawaii they made it what it is

@@musoangelo My point is you can stop crying about long dead white guys Literally whites brought them into the 21st century Hawaii was the first state to allow Gay marriage So if they don't like Hawaii they made it what it is

CBS considers every single historical achievement of white Christians to be "controversial", while every Jewish achievement is simply benevolent exceptionalism. Hmm CBS Israel?

Please lock it off. The native peoples were brutal

CBS considers every single historical achievement of white Christians to be "controversial", while every Jewish achievement is simply benevolent exceptionalism. Hmm CBS Israel?

You lost me at "especially from the perspective of the native peoples." That infers that their perspective is somehow truer than other perspectives. When you say "those of us," you mean people who aren't native peoples, and when you say "can gain a better understanding," you're suggesting that our perspective is somehow inferior or disillusioned. To say one side should better understand the other without expecting reciprocation is uninspired thinking. All of our perspectives are mired in biases and prejudices based on experiences. Therefore, all of our perspectives deserve understanding.

@@heybrentdavis CBS considers every single historical achievement of white Christians to be "controversial", while every Jewish achievement is simply benevolent exceptionalism. Hmm CBS Israel?

do what ? The history is HAWAIIANS discovered Hawaii …Not a european explorer

@@koap273 fact

@@koap273 Tahitians discovered Hawaiians

@@comment1984 Uh, no. Tahitians discovered the Hawaiian Islands.

no forget that it was with aid of European advisors and European weapons like muskets and cannon that Kamehameha was able to even corner his enemies at Kalelaka'ane Pali

@@jerryakamuadams6399 The king still pushed them off didn't he? That probably doesn't matter though, some people are desperate to miss the point.

The story in the video definitely doesn’t match the story told on tours or readily available in books or online.

@@jonathanmietzner8003 Good point. I’m not certain if I fully comprehend your comment. Perhaps this video is more accurate to history and offers new revelations or what is readily available in books and tours is facile? I apologize for belaboring your effecient comment, I am just not certain how to read it.

@@jonathanmietzner8003 Hawaiian 🌺 books ? And online is a joke , cooks logs essentially agree with @345mrse ! I have seen ridiculous posts from Hawaiians on this and other subjects

That’s a cop out because there were plenty of individuals who fighting for basic civil rights for all humans The American use of slavery was a good example. Many abolitionist died and were imprisoned for their work

Because Westerners are tied to the rest of the world.

Cook used a triangulation device he learned to use from a dutch engineer back when English troops were trying to map the area around Quebec while attacking France in modern day Canada. He didn't need Tupaia, he already mapped areas million times bigger - for example, eastern coast of Australia and most of the western coast of modern day US

....ain't about biggah! (area) I always grab a local "nate" for those high spots,reefs,and who knows what else to effect a grounding.if Cook didn't have BIG T =major stress + the crew major stress I love to explore

Which was the basic point.

@@lieberte but he didn't know where the islands were, tupai'a did.

@@ChristianG-bx5jq Wow! . You did an excellent job of echoing the Europeans who came and took over the islands with ZERO regard to the native peoples' wishes. The standard story of colonizers is "Look how savage they were! Look what awful lives they had! Good thing we showed up with our superior everything!: Nobody asked them what they wanted. Nobody allowed them to come to the Europeans to say, "yes we'd like to talk to you about some of these things." The default response of white and/or European descent people is to say "look at all these wonderful things they have now!" At what price, you should ask yourself. What was the price THEY were required to pay? And, for your clarification, Native Hawaiians and Native Americans, Canadian Indigenous people often become dangerously overweight. Not because they have government subsidies, dear. But because their bodies had evolved to digest and benefit from their native foods...all kinds of seafood, poi made from taro and many cooked vegetables and edible plants. But, protein was mostly seafood. When Europeans brought flour and sugar and other fatty foods, their bodies couldn't digest it as well and use it for energy and so it was stored (and IS) as fat. It's really important not to make assumptions. Particularly as a non-native person. Of course, all societies had their issues and I don't subscribe to the "noble native" stereotype. But I do know much was forced upon them. I suspect that native peoples living now aren't saying we wish we were living the same ways we did 250 years ago. But we know they were a People able to travel great distances. They didn't need to sit and wait for Europeans to bring them all these things. You think they wouldn't 't have electricity, or internet etc without Europeans?? Those are all modern conveniences we've ALL enjoyed in the last Century and a half or so. It's hard to expect people to be thanking the "conquerers" for x,y,z when they are still suffering the decimation of their sacred spaces and respect for them and their ways. Did you even listen to this report? First visit, Capt Cook telling the sailors to keep their STD's to themselves? Yeah I bet they were really grateful for that. And other diseases. I'm just asking people to think before you say something. It would be like your neighbors coming over and saying "we really don't think you're caring for your grand mother properly and homeschooling is BS. We're going to put granny in a nursing home and put your kids in a school where we don't allow them to speak their own language or wear clothes they're comfortable in. Oh and your house! Needs to be completely rebuilt, it's a mess! Also, I didn't want to bring it up, but this food is awful! I can't eat this! We're going to bring over our food and you'll start eating THAT from now on." Does that help at all with the tiniest bit of empathy? Or respect?

@@dod2304 Throughout the ages people have explored and taken lands without the permission of resident humans. Exploration and land appropriation is an integral part of the human experience.

@@ChristianG-bx5jq “Resorting to cooking dogs and pigs they raised for meat” what is that supposed to mean? Do you know what resorting to means? The term “resorting to” means to adopt a course of action that is disagreeable or savory. If they raised dogs and pigs for meat why is that “resorting to”? They were raised for the express purpose of eating them. Also dogs for the most part have been a food source for many cultures and peoples and while served as a companion also served as food for many peoples including Europeans and not as a last resort. Also tribal cannibalism was not the result of starvation often times cannibalism served a ritualistic purpose either for the purposes of granting powers, defeating enemies, or familial remembrance. When it comes to the claim that the natives were “constantly in brutal warfare with each other” yeah and? So was the entirety of Europe. Both world wars were caused by Europe. All the crusades were initiated by Europe. Europe has been a powder keg of war and conflict don’t act as if the natives were the only locale under conflict.

right

I guess you prefer other perspectives to just go away and not bother your existence 🙄

@@RudieObias back then we had other perspectives aplenty. Today instead a lot of it seems to be just tribalism and passive aggressive hate, and removal of what you don't want to see. Though the sentence "I guess you prefer other perspectives to go away and not bother your existence" would best be applied to the KZfaq censors, who hide anybodys speech they don't feel like being visible on a daily basis right.

​@e.gadd.1 But you didn't have perspectives aplenty, at least nowhere near comparable to today, otherwise you'd know James Cook wasn't 'simply an explorer who discovered lands for Europe.' Sure he made many great discoveries for Europe, but he was also a quack who held a king for ransom because a rowboat was stolen. It's not identity politics if a different perspective that challenges the one you learned 50 years ago is based on historical events that actually happened.

​@@parkerhughes434 true there is more information online today for those who look. But free speech is much more limited today :( Most public discourse is now online and what you see and say is controlled utterly by a few giant social media monopolies, with zero accountability and we have no idea who is even doing it. And most every home is bugged by at least 3 or more electronic devices. Its 1984 but 2024, basically

@@parkerhughes434 I don't think you understand the definition of quack.

My husband and I were there last September. We visited The Place of Refuge. It was serene and peaceful. Our tour guide talked about Cook and his demise.

CBS considers every single historical achievement of white Christians to be "controversial", while every Jewish achievement is simply benevolent exceptionalism. Hmm CBS Israel?

CBS considers every single historical achievement of white Christians to be "controversial", while every Jewish achievement is simply benevolent exceptionalism. Hmm CBS Israel?

Cook was apparently a good Commander for his time , his sailors didn’t get scurvy! Like most other’s on such long journeys.

Read about what it took to keep discipline on board an 18c ship and what were considered acceptable norms of society at large.

Bligh was a great navigator. After the mutiny he sailed in a small boat with the loyal sailors thousands of kilometers. He then went on to govern the colony of Sydney where he suffered another rebellion.

ok????? and that's a problem why?

They should be happy someone so good like cook and not others who would have wiped them out.

@@marsspacex6065 that's a sick statement

@@808-PFH-Kanaka-Rights Just history look at what the Spanish arabs did to native people.

@@marsspacex6065 ya think I care? that's still a sick statement

My thing is how do you discover a country full of people already. Wasn’t he just visiting then? This western bs and notion that a place wasn’t discovered until westerners landed on it has always been baffling to me. Never ever made sense and why we still give it credence is beyond me. I want all history taught and acknowledged; good bad and indifferent but it should also be taught accurately and not through the lens’s of the Colonizers but the actual natives of said land. Imagine telling the history of Spain through the Berbers when they conquered and ruled Spain.

@JaySaidy ,you misunderstand my point, these places would have been conquered no matter who did it. Most people misunderstand history as a whole, in order to understand history you have to understand the time in which they lived. For people to think these places would have survived to today in the same way is ridiculous, even if they would have made it to the early 20th century, Germany or Japan would have dominated them just as an example!!!

@@1965Grit So true!

I learned a lot by watching Hawaii 5-O!

yeah but there isnt life and civilizations on those other planets that are going to get eradicated by us going there. and if we do happen to go to a planet that has life and we end up eradicating it...then shame on us

but it's us hawaiians who killed him so let us tell you why

Because can’t compare historical figures to today standards, every American founding fathers would be cancelled today.

Ofc they didn't, their ancestors were the colonizers

It's been happening in North Carolina, London and elsewhere.

Celebrating our culture’s greatness is antithetical to their agenda.

What an oil company celebrates him? Those wonderful humanitarians

Unlike today's people who travel on oil powered cruise ships and airplanes. Cook utilized renewables, wind power. James Cook, explorer. Environmentalist

the journalist literally said, "the first to map out the pacific" not the first to discover.

@@JohnDoe-ch7ww Quote: "Pacific Ocean on the map creating detailed diagrams of the places he was the first European to discover including New Zealand, Australia the Cook Islands...". The journalist literally said "discover including New Zealand'

@@tcusdin Why didn't Tasman come ashore on NZ?

⁠@@user-lvqk2wdp8sjnhe went up the west coast of the South Island and went into what’s now known as Tasman bay , his ship was greeted by canoe’s full of locals, blowing indigenous horns and drums etc ! So Tasman got his crew to play music on deck and put a cutter or two out on the water the locals attacked them and killed four of his crew! So he said adios to unfriendly NZ.

Because he's Hawaiian and was a native to the islands. There's a big difference between local conquerors and foreign ones. Like how Mongolia has a holiday and statues for Genghis Khan, or how France celebrates Napoleon. Humans can find pride in warlords, but it's far easier when they're of the same ilk, so to speak

because unlike what you think, he ended hundreds of years of wars. oh you didn't know we had hundreds of years of wars? well, big island was strongest genealogically while the maui kingdoms were the most rutheless even giving fear to those of kaua'i and big island. o'ahu had the most political power while due to the days of manokalanipo, kaua'i and ni'ihau made a forever alliance that lasted for nearly 400 years until kaumuali'i became a vassal of kamehameha.

@@serdownofhousebad1127 for kamehameha, what is celebrated about him is the fact that he ended years of wars and actually united the kingdoms. something that has been tried and failed for hundreds of years.

@@808-PFH-Kanaka-Rights Great explanation, thanks

@@Deadfoot-Dan no problem

Spanish had already mapped areas of West Coast of US almost 150 years before him

Thank you

your comment gives us a ignorant version of the history, history is never one dimensional and Cook definitely had his flaws and imperialist mindset

@@danielvanhuizen1253 Please capitalize your sentences, some grammar would strengthen your arguments. Who is “us” you speak of please? Are you the nominated representative of a group? Captain James Hook was an explorer who was extremely brave and helped us to better understand our world. His views were, for his time, liberal, and he should be celebrated.

He was an amazing sailor and navigator but there is controversy about him. Hence, he is also controversial. They're not mutually exclusive.

Ironically enough, oversimplifying someone’s historical legacy like you’re trying to do is about as ignorant as you can get.

no very few native hawaiians actually own any land in Hawaii. a lot of it is government or rich billionaires like zuckenberg, bezos, ellison

@@jerryakamuadams6399 Exactly. Unlike American Samoa the royalty of Hawaiin people soldout in 1893. Virtually culturally indistinguishable from mainland Americans more and more. I mean its no secret modern Hawaiin culture is Holland based Heineken and Japanese Tacomas. Quite frankly they are one of the biggest hypocritical cultures because of their lack of consistency in living what they preach

👏 👏 👏 at the end of the day, it's a bunch of Leftist/Marxists that like to engage in revisionism.

Yes.Anyone that bothers to learn history and can think,will realise that cultures are only ever temporary.

@@bazjones5282 Can't spell or say culture without CULT. But the sheep still worship it like its not one.

Totally agree

Kind of a silly argument. It's like an abuser saying, "well, if I didn't do it now, someone else would've done it soon enough."

@@dod2304World history isn’t pretty. People have conquered other people since the beginning of time. You’re privileged to live in a world where you don’t have to worry about being conquered and can watch the conquering on TV from your living room and say, “oh how horrible!”

It would have been better had Leif Ericsson had succeeded . . . his takeover would have been more gradual and less traumatic.

⁠@@user-lvqk2wdp8sjn😂 Finding new land was like striking gold. As soon as someone found it, everyone and their brother was on their way to stake a claim. Gradual and civilized was never an option!

And Captain Hook of “Peter Pan”.

exactly

Neither Portugal, Holland nor Spain laid any claim to discovering Australia.

The Enlightenment played a large part in how Cook treated the people he found on his travels

Yeah, look at that happened to Rapa Nui (Easter Island).

As was said in the video, he "discovered" the islands as a European who had no knowledge they existed at all.

Discovered by civilizations with a history. The natives of the islands had no history.

In world terms he did discover them as they were isolated.

CBS considers every single historical achievement of white Christians to be "controversial", while every Jewish achievement is simply benevolent exceptionalism. Hmm CBS Israel?

that is true. I wonder what would have happened if metcalfe didn't attack the village of olowalu considering that it is because of that incident that he acquired Davis and young

They truly are! So kind and gracious

@@marytheresejacksonlutz2533 And Cook took advantage of that and NOT in a good way....That monument should come down..

@@marytheresejacksonlutz2533Hawaiians aren't so kind to white people

@@marytheresejacksonlutz2533 lol no

@@billhathaway2814 simp

They had no written language.There are however orals histories passed down through generations.

Well at least one prominent writer of history, recognized for his earlier book “The Ghost Soldiers” felt his story should be heard. It’s by Hampton Sides and was just published-“The Wide, Wide Sea”.