Jesus is relentless and will never give up.

@Paula Wallace Jesus Christ is God.

@Paula Wallace Torah observant Jews (hardly pagans) worshiped Jesus of Nazareth as divine in the 1st century (as early as 46 AD, 13-16 years removed from his crucifixion). Christianity, which was recognized as a Jewish sect until after the destruction of Herod's temple was founded in the thoroughly non-pagan province Judea. So good luck with the whole "pagans did it" thing.

@Paula Wallace Funny joke

Paula Wallace Bless Your poor little heart Dear. Not true.

Yes. It's good to know he wasn't a Christian.

Steven Crowder has done 3 videos with him in the past few days about the first and second amendments and the history of the US navy

@@samanthasowell6350 interesting. Will watch when I have time

@@williamh7517 it's good. This guy is the guy you wish you had had as a history teacher.

Why does Shapiro deny Christ?

Jesus commanded His people to spread the gospel. A Christian is absolutely supposed to "tell others how to approach the Logos". That's the Great Commission (Matt. 28:19-20).

@@bryanjacobs1423 That's not why he did it. Jefferson's religion was between himself and God alone. He believed the way he lived his life would say all that needed to be said. His book wasn't meant to be an iron rod of command, it was his red cap of liberty.

​@AngryReacts OnlyPlease I could have said "𒀭𒅗", which I assure you isn't popular at all, but since we're discussing Jefferson's view of the New Testament and the impact of his _philosophia_ on American government I figured I'd just transliterate the original Greek. My most grievous goof. Perhaps you would prefer Lakȟótiyapi?

Marcus Aurulius' Meditations was also written for personal reflection.

@@YouTubalcaine nice

Val Mid great point, especially since he purchased it in 1765 when studying ottoman law and didn’t deal with Barbary pirates until 1786. Oh, wait that timeline is off by 21 years. Damn history.

@@andrewmn3024 The Barbary Pirates were a hot topic everywhere at the time, you couldn't study anything ottoman without piracy being part of it, so your condescension is irrelevant, just like your point/opinion.

The Barbary Pirates, why the United States has a Navy!

@@johnnybop64 I’m curious, how many writings or publications from the 1760s have you read to base that opinion on? You seem rather defensive for the apparent wealth of your knowledge?

Jefferson thought Islam was not compatible with America as they believe the way to Heaven is killing infidels.

Jefferson would approve of this verbiage

Truly funny. How he speaks of these actions of Thomas Jefferson as if he was there himself. I can totally debunk all of his Misinformation for his Christian agenda by just saying “Thomas Paine”. Him and Jefferson shared letters describing hopes the fall of Christianity in the new world “ being America”. This guy is a brain washer. He hasn’t done any research. Lol. I’d love to debate him. I actually study this

@@LVL50DarkElf His credibility is easily found and verified. What the heck is your credibility ?...your word ? Nothing you said can be verified. Marxist puke.

@@chevymon1 lol. Hey 👋 Boomer Pick up a book called “The age of reason “ by :Thomas Paine. You know. The guy who wrote the “Common Sense” pamphlets The corner stone of all American history. Benjamin Franklin recruited him to be a writer …. But I’m sure Books make you Angry because you are incognizant of common sense in general. Btw Fox News is going down pretty hard right now because of the “BIG LIE”. Maybe that’s why you are so angry right now 😂.

@@LVL50DarkElf Not angry. I just abhor a marxist liar. You communists have positioned yourselves sweetly, for the time being. It's going to end badly for you all.

They would know they are Jews

Yikes

You love these: *Romans 1:1* "Paul, a _bondservant_ of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God." *Ephesians 6:5-7* _"SLAVES,_ obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as *SLAVES* of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.” *Revelation 2:16* “Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the SWORD of my mouth.” *Matthew 10:34-35* “Do NOT suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a *SWORD.* For I have come to turn a man _against_ his father, a daughter *against* her mother, a daughter-in-law AGAINST her mother-in-law." *Luke 14:26* “If anyone comes to me and does not *HATE* their father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters - yes, even their own life - such a person can NOT be my disciple."

Another one trying to christianize people again. The constitution is godless. Miracles are magic

Really???

Just a daily devotional, not a daily devotion bible.

Ben hates Jesus and he doesn't even think his God can do miracles.

@Paula Wallace your both being dumb. You guys DO realize the God in Judaism and Christianity is the same God? Lol

@@michaelwatts5139 Same God, its not like Batman lol. They didnt have Micheal Keaton in there as God then Christianity recast God as Christian Bale lol. Its all the same God.

@Paula Wallace idiot

That goes for everybody 💯

Explain fulfilled prophecy, the E.U. , and the return of the Jews from the 4 "corners " of the earth...Bad investment.

He just said that

Yeah. Most of the modern historians frame Jefferson as a Deist who believed Jesus to be a moral figure, rather than a religious one, due to the very claims about the Jefferson Bible cutting out all of the miracles. Its disconcerting that I was assigned an academic book for one of my classes just last semester that continued to forward this claim, which David Barton here counters. I will need to follow up on David Barton's claims and look at the primary sources, but, he is hardly wrong on scholars simply citing each other rather than the source material, especially when they begin to go down historiographical rabbit holes. I wrote an entire paper on a topic that suffered from such a rabbit hole, actually.

If your really look at it Auren the liberal historians are trying to remove Jesus and God from not only American history but all history.

Jack MeOff If you actually watched the video you'd know that he said that.

@@jackmeoff8953 I will definitely attest that some of them are doing this, yes. But, I would not place a blanket over all of them saying as such. There are a few decent ones out there that will, perhaps in their words, "give the devil his due" when it comes to religion, etc. They are becoming fewer and fewer, however, which is a major concern.

Serious question. I'm not a Christian and even if jesus existed as a person the existence of a man called jesus would not establish his claims or others claims about his divinity. I'm asking because I'm genuinely interested. In your thoughts. I'm not asking God or religion but the historicity of Jesus and the historicity of the Bible.?

James Psimaris Every credible historian recognizes that Jesus existed, even the agnostic Bart Ehrman, and the leading German historians. You're right, though, the historicity of Jesus does not mean He was God. It all comes down to the question which He Himself asked of His apostles in Matthew 16, "Whom do you say that I am?" It's not enough to acknowledge that He was a good, historical teacher of morality because a good teacher would not have said the things He said but would have been either declared to be a liar (which the Pharisees said He was) or a lunatic (which the rationalistic Sadducees said He was) or Lord. He obviously existed because there is no other explanation for the quick growth and expansion of Christianity without the Jews or Romans easily strangling it in the cradle. So, given that He existed, it is up to each person to read what He said and decide for themselves WHO this man Jesus was and is, a liar, a lunatic, or Lord.

Barton is not commited to accurately portraying the relgious beliefs of the founding fathers unless they fall more closely in line to his own.

Then u still dont

How do you know it's the truth

It's not, David Barton is a total pseudo-historian who invents quotes and writes bullshit based on his evangelical propaganda. Look into his background.

@@weefeatures What was invented here?

Truth without facts is only an opinion. There's lots of opinion going on here.

Jefferson was a theist and he believed in God, but he certainly did not believe that Jesus was divine, and he did not consider himself a Christian in the sense that most of us would. He also believed that the Gospels were corruptions of Jesus true teachings. The miracles were part of the books that he rejected. "Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him [Jesus] by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others again of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism, and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being." -Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Short, April 13, 1820 "The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills." - Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, January 24, 1814

VCR Time Machine He did not officially reject those things his entire life, only in the last few years of his life (hence your letters from 1814 and on far after the founding of the nation and even his presidency). Consider these statements by Jefferson and how right wing religious extremist he would appear today for saying such things: “The Christian religion is the best religion that has been given to man and I, as Chief Magistrate of this nation, am bound to give it the sanction of my example.” “God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever…” He recommended that the Great Seal of our nation be modeled after a Biblical account depicting the "children of Israel in the wilderness, led by a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night" and include the word "God" on it. (So much for him rejecting miracles...) In his official government role, he also did the following: He negotiated treaties with the Indians where he included direct FEDERAL funding of Christian missionaries which was then ratified by Congress. He ended his LEGAL documents as a government official (including U.S. President) with "In the year of our Lord Christ" adding the word “Christ” to the commonly used phrase. He started the use of the United States Capitol Building (home of Congress) as a church building when he was President of the Senate. He attended church in the Capitol for 8 years as a sitting U.S. President. He ordered the Marine Corp band to play for worship services in the Capitol building. Ironically, though he is often cited for keeping the influence of the church out of the government, rather than keeping the church out of government, Thomas Jefferson LITERALLY put the church in the government when he approved church services being held in the United States Capitol Building. In the letter to the Danbury Baptist’s where Jefferson makes the statement, “separation of church and state,” he ends that letter in what many today would erroneously call a violation of the First Amendment saying, "I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man..." The fact is, though he is one of the least religious founding fathers, he would be considered a religious extremist in today’s climate. The

​@@jlrapid So perhaps the correct answer is recognition of the two: people change, and as with Thomas Jefferson, he held beliefs earlier in his life that perhaps, if we cannot attribute such a shift to senility, he eventually abandoned. Perhaps that is what people should be highlighting, rather than trying to say he was firmly one or firmly the other.

💯. The guy could've saved a lot of time by simply telling the truth from the start.

Well, unfortunately, though not surprisingly, this is one of those videos leftists hope you'll never see. They will crap themselves if more people became informed by this video, so that their arguments of Thomas Jefferson being a "deist" will begin to lose their effect!

@@Gozoman24 You missed the point of this conversation. Stop hating people just because they may not agree with you politically or for any other reason. Love is the answer. That's the point. Jefferson WAS a deist. He loved God and followed the teachings of Christ in his daily life. How about YOU try doing that each day!?

@@remixandkaraoke Guess who's my judge? The Only Begotten Son! Guess who's not my judge? YOU! Many others too! But I suspect you don't know what the definition of a deist is anyway- unless I was just misinformed about the definition.

@@remixandkaraoke Jefferson said he was a Christian in a letter. A few things a Diest doesn't do is go to church, pray and read the Bible. Jefferson did all three. Jefferson was known to go to multiple denominations churches. Diests believe in a Creator who is silent and just observes. There would be no point for a diest to do any of the above mentioned. The claim about the Founders being deists is just another attempt to remove Christianity from our Founding and public life by the left. It's not about different politics it's about the left flat out lies and omits facts to push their agenda.

@@remixandkaraoke as you were saying?

This is a very important point because it also debunks the Sally Hemmings myth that Jefferson had a sexual relationship with her. It now appears that his profligate younger brother Randolph Jefferson was who impregnated her and NOT Thomas.

It's one of our Founding Documents that states our rights come from God

@Paula Wallace Are you telling me or Thomas Jefferson?

@Paula Wallace Absolute horsehit.

@Paula Wallace The Hebrews had no word for virgin, but the word for maiden (unmarried woman) was considered to be synonymous with a virgin; otherwise, the woman could be stoned to death. Semantics, very deceptive semantics. I don't like deceivers.

@Paula Wallace girl you're trippin'.All these ridiculous talking points have been debunked ad nauseum by bible scholars,even atheists ones. Go get a life aight?

@Paula Wallace Bitch you're crazy get the hell out of here.

Barton's official biography describes him as "an expert in historical and constitutional issues".[32] Barton holds no formal credentials in history or law, and scholars dispute the accuracy and integrity of his assertions about history, accusing him of practicing misleading historical revisionism, "pseudoscholarship" and spreading "outright falsehoods".[8][9][10][11] According to the New York Times, "Many professional historians dismiss Mr. Barton, whose academic degree is in Christian Education from Oral Roberts University, as a biased amateur who cherry-picks quotes from history and the Bible."[7] Barton's 2012 book The Jefferson Lies was voted "the least credible history book in print" by the users of the History News Network website.[33] The book's publisher, Christian publishing house Thomas Nelson, disavowed the book and withdrew it from sale. A senior executive said that Thomas Nelson could not stand by the book because "basic truths just were not there."

@@Achromaticdj Wow! This was SO informative! I'm gonna start listening to -David Barton- Achromatic from now on!

@@Achromaticdj You went full Wikipedia. Never go full Wikipedia

I wouldn't. He's not telling the truth. He's telling a story he wants to be true.

@@M240D Click the citation links if you conveniently dismiss Wikipedia.

Right Jefferson was a luciferin member of the illuminati elite. Completely anti God or man's idea of self perfection with out god

@@vernontoews1982 what?

@Jhonny Un poco loco Bravo not sure I have studied many sources

@Jhonny Un poco loco Bravo Duh. He was a mason.

Jew's have been made blind by other Jews since the beginning.

A land in rebellion has many rulers, but a man of understanding and knowledge maintains order. Proverbs 28:2

This is just false. He clearly believed in God. He was not an atheist, that's one thing we actually know for sure.

Too bad Jefferson's Bible removed the key to spiritual rebirth. Living by a list of Biblical morals may well be better than where they are at now.Satans victory comes by watering down the truth and blinding us to a better life. On false teaching, churches etc. Satan will offer you a hundred truths so to fool you with just one lie. Many have come in my name, . Do not believe them

Vernon Toews ah yes the same Biblical morals that say you can own slaves.

@@steggyweggy us Christians follow the new testament only .no slaves. The old testament is used as a reference point to show life in the period known as the age of law. The new testament is our life also many Democrats owned slaves. History shows no Republican ever owned slaves

@@steggyweggy Satan has an evil double for everything and is intended to distort and water down the truth.Jefferson's Bible should be avoided like ebola

Vernon Toews I’m gonna call bullshit on the no republicans owned slaves. Christians do follow the Old Testament. Otherwise why hold the Ten Commandments to such a high standard and want to suppress gay rights. Without the Old Testament the New Testament doesn’t matter. Besides even if you don’t follow the old law it is still the same terrible god that commanded that law that you follow. Also the devil doesn’t exist. There is much evidence for how the devil and hell are things that evolved over time in the religion of Christianity.

Well he's not the 1st or the last to change or ad to the word of God. Infact its been done So many times its hard to know what the word actually was. And what was put in to help control minds& hearts of a broke, hungry, & desperate population.

@@shaunlowe5108 that's what Satan has and still is doing to the "poor" and "broke" and "desperate" . I might add the the so called "wise" and "Well to do". The Hebrew and Greek manuscripts align almost word for word with the King James Bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls discovery prove that along with 100's of 1 century copies, all align .i suppose your looking for a convenient excuse to disregard, but guess what? That will not change your future, only Jesus Christ can. Skeptic eh? You have a glaring prophecy staring at you everyday in the state of Israel. Went out of existence 2k years ago, language even died, people dispersed, and came back as a nation as told so in Ezekiel 37. BTW that has never been done in the history of the world. The Word of God changed me. I was a foul mouth, drug abusing, fornicater. (That's one of those poor, broke, and desperate you spoke of, but not monetarily I might add) I put my faith in the Lord and He Took those destructive behaviors out of my life and I desire them no more

Me too man.

Yeah, so much truth is lost to idiocy today!

@islanti mine does ;)

Exactly, he was a deist at most. This David Barton is completely reliant on people never reading either Jefferson Bibles to peddle his evangelical propaganda.

I agree, David Barton's line of thinking is completely asinine! I am an atheist yet my family still attends church (my wife wants to go). My kids attend Sunday school and we have several bibles in our home. That doesn't make me a Christian. He is glossing over the many quotes and letters Jefferson has made on the subject of Christianity and its role with in our government. To say the least he thought it dangerous and that it had no place in a truly free government. Jefferson, like many of the founding fathers, was a deist at best.

Ridiculous religious attitude.

It's not intended to be a Bible, so the rule on "taking away" does not apply. (Duh)

It does when people think its a Bible as well as hand it out to be taught as God's words.

Your right it says-[N]either can constitutionally pass laws or impose requirements which aid all religions as against non-believers, and neither can aid those religions based on a belief in the existence of God as against those religions founded on different beliefs.”

@@memphisjohnnyminnesota8049, 2 days after President Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter to the Danbury Baptist he attended a church service in the United States Capitol to hear a sermon and had even called in the U.S. Marines to be the worship band.

He basically cut and pasted out the parts he did not particular care for is my understanding.

"logically" believe God is real ..... Hmmm

“logically believe god is real.” Hmm I think this is an oxymoron

@@2287rna elaborate

@@steggyweggy elaborate

@@HerveyShmervy there is no logical argument that leads to the belief in God that does not suffer from some sort of fallacy or error of some kind. William Lane Craig’s idea of God isn’t even coherent in the first place. Ben’s probably isn’t either but I’ve never heard him define it before

" Which is the very mouth of God " prove it, prove any of it. Come on give it the ol' college try.

@@jjosephs6521 There is no proof, as in scientific proof. It is purely a matter of faith. I know the Scriptures contained in Saint Jerome's Latin Vulgate are the inspired Word of God to the exclusion of all others because the Holy Catholic Church said so when She established the Canon using Her divine authority in A.D. 405. Otherwise, there is no way to differentiate them from similar writings of the same time period.

It was used by Jefferson.

PoDH the Quran version??? Uh, no. The Bible came first. The Quran came, I think, a couple thousand years later and is basically a bastardized version of the Bible.

@@BijinMCMXC No I mean as a Holy Book. Like if you're a Muslim, your Holy Book is the Qur'an. While if you're a Christian, your Holy Book is the Bible.

Paula Wallace That’s not true because in Christianity, Jesus is considered a part of “God” (which is considered to have 3 parts - the Father, Jesus, Holy Spirit). He is worshipped as part of God, not as the human he also was (again, complicated).

That is why Barton said Jefferson wasn't an orthodox christian.

Barton said he didn't think Jefferson was a Christian

He fucked his relatives, you gotta love that!

he's my grandaddy

please explain...

The denomination of...what?

@@toeknee5565 Unitarianism was considered a denomination of Christianity at that time. It was basically Arianism, similar to Jehovah's Witnesses. Unitarianism today is much different. I realize it's NOT Christianity in the Biblical and orthodox sense, but it was considered a Christian sect during that time, an unorthodox or liberal Christian sect anyway.

@@saintjeremykjv1611 it is absolutely still considered a branch of Christianity even today.

@@toeknee5565 I think of Unitarian Universalists when I hear about modern Unitarianism. I was unaware that classical Unitarianism even still existed, aside from Jehovah's Witnesses' theology. As far as orthodoxy goes though, denying the Trinity puts a person out of the Body of Christ and therefore out of Eternal Life.

@@saintjeremykjv1611 none of that disputes the fact that unitarianism is a branch of Christianity

Jefferson would not have been a Deist either. A Deist believes in a Creator God who observes and is not involved. They would not go to church or pray. Jefferson did both. Jefferson also believed good deeds were the way to salvation a Deist would not believe that.The claim about the Founders being deists is just lazy history pushed by the left with a secular agenda behind it Jefferson also in his own hand says "I am a Christian" in a letter. He followed the Christian Enlightenment philosophers -Locke Montesquieu and Blackstone.

@@godssara6758 Saying that "The Founders were Christians" or "The Founders were Diests" (or anything else) is using too broad of a brush. You can say that they were all deeply steeped in the Judeo-Christian tradition and that they were familiar with the Bible, etc., and that much is true, but beyond that you have to talk about them as individuals. Some were traditional Christians as we would understand it today (Patrick Henry, John Jay), others like Thomas Paine were far from it, and Jefferson is particularly complicated. Yes, he went to church but that doesn't make him a "Christian." They all went to church on occasion. You had to to hold elected office. Jefferson did not believe in the resurrection, or the miracles, or the Trinity. He edited all references of those things out of his own Bible --and by that I mean literally taking a razor blade and cutting those passages out. (Not sure in what sense you can be a Christian and not believe in the resurrection.) But he was not an atheist either. He believed in a Creator who set the universe in motion. Everyone from evangelicals to atheists all want to claim Jefferson and mold him into their own worldview but we need to allow Jefferson to be Jefferson. There are some good books out there on his religious views if you are really interested.

​@@dentonflorian7405bro you literally called him a deist, lol. So is that too broad of a stroke or not??

@@toeknee5565 : I said making sweeping statements like “The Founders were all Christians” or “The Founders were all deists” was too broad and that they had to be taken as individuals. In Jefferson’s case, yes, he was a deist.

He was arguing for Jefferson’s appreciation of the Bible as a whole, not his Christian beliefs. I guess you selectively listened to him?

He did not officially reject those things his entire life, only in the last few years of his life. Consider these statements by Jefferson and how right wing religious extremist he would appear today for saying such things: “The Christian religion is the best religion that has been given to man and I, as Chief Magistrate of this nation, am bound to give it the sanction of my example.” “God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever…” He recommended that the Great Seal of our nation be modeled after a Biblical account depicting the "children of Israel in the wilderness, led by a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night" and include the word "God" on it. (So much for him rejecting miracles...) In his official government role, he also did the following: He negotiated treaties with the Indians where he included direct FEDERAL funding of Christian missionaries which was then ratified by Congress. He ended his LEGAL documents as a government official (including U.S. President) with "In the year of our Lord Christ" adding the word “Christ” to the commonly used phrase. He started the use of the United States Capitol Building (home of Congress) as a church building when he was President of the Senate. He attended church in the Capitol for 8 years as a sitting U.S. President. He ordered the Marine Corp band to play for worship services in the Capitol building. Ironically, though he is often cited for keeping the influence of the church out of the government, rather than keeping the church out of government, Thomas Jefferson LITERALLY put the church in the government when he approved church services being held in the United States Capitol Building. In the letter to the Danbury Baptist’s where Jefferson makes the statement, “separation of church and state,” he ends that letter in what many today would erroneously call a violation of the First Amendment saying, "I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man..." The fact is, though he is one of the least religious founding fathers, he would be considered a religious extremist in today’s climate.

He fucked his relatives... -_-

have you ever sat down and read scripture and taking notes on that scripture so that it can help you or someone else? Then I guess you are cursed as well.

Are commentaries and commentators cursed as well??

Or else zap mind erase

"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's " Some Jewish carpenter in 33AD

What bears the image of Caesar and what bears the image of God?

@@LeviPaladin Mankind bears the image of God. In other words, give to the secular authorities the things that are owed to them and give yourself to God.

@@bryanrhoden7052 You're like that helpful big brother who answers questions not posed to him, aren't you? Jesus wasn't playing friend to Caesar when He answered a question meant to ensnare Him. He was answering that everyone, including Caesar belong to Him, not endorsing taxes...but the Pharisees knew that if He answered against Caesar, that the Romans would take Him captive and if He answered for Caesar that the people (who knew that the system of taxation was unjust) would turn against Him.

@@LeviPaladin I apologize. I thought it was a public question. You are correct in your assessment that it was a question to ensnare Him. I was just answering the question on who bears the image of God. If I've offended you, I ask for your forgiveness.

The Mason’s? “Enlightened “

@@sandiegipson3716 'Age of enlightenment' does not specifically highlight any individual religious or secular denomination vs an age of reason & logic oriented mindset in regard to higher thinking. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment

That's because it's bullshit. David Barton is a pseudohistorian who is basically laughed out of the community. Look into his history and you'll see a complete snake-oil salesman.

Correct. A corrupt bible.

I AM KURGAN , well a corrupt one or one full of fairytales is all the same to me. Fictional...

@@markschiavone8003 So fictional in fact that The Holy Bible has stood up to every critique ever thrown at it from the desperately denying mind. However, it is, after all, your soul.

I AM KURGAN , yeah I don't think that it has stood up to every critique lol. Don't get me wrong it it accurate in a lot of ways but FAILS in every way as providing evidence for the supernatural claims. All you can do is use the bible to prove the bibles supernatural claims. That is a logical fallacy referred to as circular reasoning. But god bless you bible thumpers trying to scare me with threats of hell lol......oh my soul is at stake lol. Really?

I AM KURGAN so any factual evidence for the supernatural claims within the bible? Yeah.....I didn't think so so go ahead and tell me that I was right

So what you're saying is Jefferson was an imperfect mortal human being....cool.

@@aj12271 no need for snide remark. People, as I am sure you are aware tend to see in black and white on subjects. When viewing historical figures such as the founding fathers many see them as more than just mortal men. As a historian myself I find Jefferson to be an interesting study due to his contradictions in action and thought. If you haven't I recommend some study on him. You won't regret it.

Paula Wallace Oh you. Yeah I’ve seen your comments here. You sound like someone who never had a good understanding of the Bible in the first place if you brand Christianity “Anti-Semitic”. You do realize Jesus is Jewish? And he’s mentioned all throughout the Old Testament. Guess you never learned about that.

Paula Wallace What the heck is a BA/BB/SF Christian?

Paula Wallace I asked you a question. Don’t respond with a question.

Paula Wallace Oh I see now 😑 yeah people don’t go around using all those acronyms. What is the purpose of that? RC? JW?

Paula Wallace No your silly use of acronyms don’t mean a thing 🙄 you act like they’re used in the Bible itself. No, that’s something people came up with. Like I said, people don’t go around using those. Maybe people YOU know but nobody I have ever known does.

@Libertarian Rants - Source?

www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justin-taylor/thomas-nelson-ceases-publication-of-david-bartons-error-ridden-book-on-jeffersons-faith/ www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/08/09/158510648/publisher-pulls-controversial-thomas-jefferson-book-citing-loss-of-confidence www.patheos.com/blogs/secularvoices/2012/08/24/david-bartons-book-pulled-for-falsifying-us-history-to-fit-evangelical-agenda/

"That's not my decision. That's God's decision." You seemed to have left out part the context of what he said.

He’s also not defending Jefferson’s faith. He’s clarifying it. He’s not arguing that Jefferson was a born-again Christian. He’s only arguing that Jefferson viewed himself as a Christian and not a Deist.