Slow clap to you, my good sir

That is D4C for you

I think you mean F3ARP

And god bless America, you guys are gonna need that integrity soon

@@trinhhieu6270 FA3RP

as a member inside America's borders, I have no problem with Valentine's goal.

@@nillynush4899 Fine. Then i will become the next Bundeskanzler of Germany and do the same thing. Wait! Didn't that already happen?

@@dupin9251 ummm, you know that the 3rd Reich didnt push their problems onto others, but actively removed the others? Thats kind of a difference...

When you hit the replies of a spongebob meme and see political arguments

I am already seeing what is happening

The Fluff And also many people believe he did all that just to be able to walk again, but it’s more than that, he wanted to change and become a better person, by the end of SBR he wasn’t fighting Valentine so he could get his legs back, he was fighting him cause he knew such power couldn’t be trusted to someone like Valentine, Funny Valentine offered Johnny to bring back Gyro, which would change nothing, gyro is still dead, the presence of an alt Gyro would be only beneficial for Johnny since he misses him, but still he did what was right at the end

This is why he is my favourite jojo, bc he goes from not knowing himself to having a strong philosophy on life and having a true resolve to do what’s right, especially in the jojo lion flashbacks. He sure gets back to zero, and then goes beyond into infinity

@@_cripticon8004 Same here.

Johnathan ans Johnny had the most fucked up life, in my opinion.. i can't but love and have respect for Johnny, his character development is amazing. that's why he's one of my favourite jojo

and then Giro fucking dies !!!!!!!!

Zeb why

Thanks Zangeif

True

@@krokodil7057 it just works.

I want to put this quote on a shirt or tatoo it in my forehead.

Including mine, he would fuck my country. I'd hunt him to the ends of the earth if he fucked with me. No mercy or remorse.

Ultimate Kars You wouldn’t be able to do SHIT to Valentine with Love Train.

@@cthulhubecausewhynot1182 I don't care, my sacrifice would inspire others to do the same

@@katsu890 what country would that be, the one you completely destroyed yourself anyway? and how exactly do you expect get to earth from the ice ball in outer space you're stuck in? no offence mate, but you really don't seem to have thought this through.

@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 I'm not speaking as a character, if someone went to my country to make the US better at the cost of making my life worse and harming my country, say under the influence of Valentine's ideology, I'd hunt them relentlessly with anyone else attempting to do the same thing

Who shot Johnny Joestar aka Why is logic broke

The real question is who didn't shot Jhonny.

Let's also not forget that one time where three Valentines with three D4Cs that fought Diego.

Who/how/where/when shot jhony joestar.

Hey look, it’s my favorite jojo youtuber

Araki think the readers are better than they really are.

@@santhiagorocha8719 It's wiser to treat your readers to be smarter than they are.

I know

Yeah funny valentine is many things, a coward is not one of them.

@@diegobrando3409 "I wont shoot you" *hides pistol behind him*

Filthy act at a reasonable price

at a reasonable price, or cheap.

filthy favors for favorable fees

Disgusting feats for pennies in the dollar

Kensler Gaming Filthy Acts that cost very little

You forgot there's also a nun trying to stop him

Joao Luiz Kurianski Freitas Santos no it’s a nun PRETENDING to be a guy. Mulan style

Don't forget Eminem.

Gyro? Is that you?

TheMightyPancake bro why you spell dinosaur like that

Kira, Pucci, hell, even DIO had that flaw

@@almostsaladofcaesar6884 Well, Kira moreso believed that luck was on his side through hardship, not that he was destined for greatness or victory. And Dio moreso believed that he was on top because he had proven himself to be so and that he has the power to. He doesn't really use fate to justify his actions. But with Valentine and Diavolo, they believe that everything that has happened and is going to happen is preordained for them to assume the position that fate has in store for them.

I agree strongly because the moment they say that they get beaten by the protagonist one way or another

@@JonathanRiverafrickinnice555 diavolo didnt believe but he saw it

Hmmm... I guess, I know, what's funny. It is Valentine. Sorry for my bad joke. Just couldn't resist.

Emeraldpichu imagine the Stroheim theme starts playing

A good villian

nah man, he’s just doing what’s best for everyone in his country soldiers kill in war that doesn’t make them bad guys there fighting for there own family and country.

I agree with you

Bruh

He still is a hero he just has some bizzare tendancies at times 😂 but don't we all

Im more worried for the 5-6 years for us to get a part that isnt considered mediocre at best. Dw when it comes the time dp wont make us sad they never do

I'm 99% certain that they will be cgi

They can always do some touch ups to part six's story, maybe give the cast some more screentime to work better.

They did it in part 2, I dont see an issue with 7 unless you take into account the sheer frequency of the horses.

@@kaedenle it still looked bad and the focus of the fight wasnt horses unlike in SBR where horses are the focus a lot.

Ri Sawaragi no we like valentine because he did *almost* nothing wrong

Fafa Gamer I don’t know man, that one dude he disappeared on the train for no reason would beg to differ

@@pvt.gaminggummybear6337 He was a witness. Not that is right killing people, but he didn't kill for no reason

Kira is relatable? What?

@@nulle8935 almost relatable

Love Train is a cruel ability, being protected at the mercy of another person's injury is not something cool and Funny Valentine doesn't even use it moderately, he literally spams it.

Yes, but other countries were likely planning on doing the exact same shit as Valetine. See Napoli and likely the international racers' respective countries

@@Kerrisive That doesn't excuse the deaths of hundreds of innocent people, evil government or not

@@underscore2736 to a degree yes, but his motivation regarding to make America "take the first napkin" was so that the other countries wouldn't be able to subject the USA to Love Train (or whatever ability they believed the holy corpse would grant them) and instead flipping the script on them. It's comparable to knowing that another country plans on nuking you and preemptively nuking them first so that they are unable to. That's not evil in and of itself. Sure, it's not morally good either, but it is well intentioned and has the best interests of the citizens of the US at heart. It's not like the countries were going to negotiate over the corpse either since it's quite clear that they didn't want it going public. That being said, yes, Valentine is evil, not for his goal, but for how he attempts to achieve that goal. Hundreds of people didn't need to die for the US to get ahold of the holy corpse first, and there likely were better ways of going about this. He's evil in the same way Senator Armstrong from MGR is in that they honestly aren't too different from the protagonist when you consider that they have comparable methods. Johnny kills a ton of people in SBR for getting in his way and to achieve his goals, but after befriending and learning from Gyro, he becomes a better person despite his selfish goal. Valentine--in comparison--serves a more selfless goal (considering multiple versions of himself sacrifice themselves and pass on D4C to other consciousnesses), but he was a lot more unnecessarily ruthless than needed.

@@Kerrisive you make a very valid point

I literally never thought of it like that, that’s really clever

Nice

I liked the “ahem” part

I can't wait for more napkinposting in 10 years

Thanks for that

Once part 7 gets animated this is gonna be the new Yoshikage Kira copypasta

"Self-centered" him bringing over alt diago if he failed largely proves this wrong. Everyone is selfish but his plans largely at the end had parts in place if he died and the fact funny died multiple times also disproves the selfish aspect. Would you die so a clone could live your life? That's funny by en large. People forget we aren't following the EXACT same funny thought jojo despite a shared stand

@@paveesfox375 To be fair its not like these alt Valentine's are unique entities. All Valentines share the same will and memories once they gain control of d4c

@@cake6851 Yeah but it's not the same soul/conciousness. I personally wouldn't want to replace myself like that if I were in a bad condition. While it would be me in mind and body, it wouldn't be me. I'd get cheated out in experiencing all of life's wonders.

Hey im reading part 8 and its def worst than part 7 just saying

Pavees Fox i believe this is wrong, he was self centered but in a different way, Valentine doesn’t care about his life but only his goals, he did not bring back alt Diego for anyone else or any other person that himself and what he wanted to achieve

I hate you for this

@@canaldecasta In reality, D4C is truck-kun's stand.

@@thenarwhalking5604 in reality, d4c is that one guy who overthinks the situation and creates multiple altenarate decisions and check it out to see if that decision is better than the other one, in short that kid who jumps the gun always.

Wait a damn minute

And including Emporio got isekaied twice due to Made in Heaven Yup, Jojo is isekai

Accurate, this truly summed up their characters.

That’s why I love gyro, Johnny valentine and Diego Valentine is selfless in the evil way Diego is selfish in the evil way Johnny is selfish in a good way and gyro is selfless in a good way, a true hero

How is Johnny selfless

@@bgr4214 He isnt

@@bgr4214 he wasn’t, at least not much in first half of SBR. He is selfless later on though. Suger mountain arc, sacrificing the chance to save Gyro in order to do what’s the best for the world, and end up sacrificing himself for his wife and son.

*cough* Eyes Of Heaven

Except Griffith's negative actions were put in the spotlight *much* more than Valentine's, but yes. I see where you're coming from

@@DuraTOAA case in point, the rape

@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 Of course. I'm not saying they aren't similar cases, but I'm saying that Griffith is much more depicted as being an evil and traitorous bastard than Valentine is. Of course they're both evil, but Valentine does a much better job at hiding it, like what was discussed in the video

This is dead on accurate that is not even funny. Both great antagonists tho

Same! I never really understood why FV was thought of so highly up until now. And I started thinking of him to be more humane at the end too, but all the same, I couldn't help but think that he is still too far gone in most things. As OP said, he often tries to justify what he's doing, but that only seems to me like he convinced himself that all the evil he's doing is in the name of patriotism and all his other beliefs, which just isn't right to me.

That’s good because that’s how reality works

the clown music is an especially good touch

Valentine did nothing wrong he wanted the best for his country For example Suppose that you were sitting down at this table. The napkins are in front of you, which napkin would you take? The one on your ‘left’? Or the one on your ‘right’? The one on your left side? Or the one on your right side? Usually you would take the one on your left side. That is ‘correct’ too. But in a larger sense on society, that is wrong. Perhaps I could even substitute ‘society’ with the ‘Universe’. The correct answer is that ‘It is determined by the one who takes his or her own napkin first.’ …Yes? If the first one takes the napkin to their right, then there’s no choice but for others to also take the ‘right’ napkin. The same goes for the left. Everyone else will take the napkin to their left, because they have no other option. This is ‘society’… Who are the ones that determine the price of land first? There must have been someone who determined the value of money, first. The size of the rails on a train track? The magnitude of electricity? Laws and Regulations? Who was the first to determine these things? Did we all do it, because this is a Republic? Or was it Arbitrary? NO! The one who took the napkin first determined all of these things! The rules of this world are determined by that same principle of ‘right or left?’! In a Society like this table, a state of equilibrium, once one makes the first move, everyone must follow! In every era, this World has been operating by this napkin principle. And the one who ‘takes the napkin first’ must be someone who is respected by all. It’s not that anyone can fulfill this role… Those that are despotic or unworthy will be scorned. And those are the ‘losers’. In the case of this table, the ‘eldest’ or the ‘Master of the party’ will take the napkin first… Because everyone ‘respects’ those individuals.

@@TheBest-od6vc yep he is

He can switch bodies with his alternate selves. What do you THINK happened?

That's Funny.

Fabiocean I think its because of d4c, because we all know valentine can switch between alternate versions of himself. This means that he literally was fat but then switched bodies later on to be more fit for fighting, as fatty wouldn’t have been agile enough to fight Diego and wekapipo at the same time

@@_cripticon8004 it could just be a style change Araki made

Saethron Elf yes I agree he probably realised a fat antagonist would be silly. But still it makes sense that he could use d4c to get different valentines of different body shapes

I recommend u don't watch these vids as they tend to spoil things. There's also multiple things that make valentine stand out and jojo parts 7 and 8, that is the fact jojo transitions into seinen (for adults) so the story gets quite deeper than usual and allows for even more brutal things and IT'S FUCKING GREAT.

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Pucci and Valentine are the White Sheep of Jojo Villains

Curtis Gill something like that

Curtis Gill **Valentine S-tier villain**

Actually, it's mandolin.

I forgot about Valentine's lesbian wife

Instead he decided to join the navy

The memes of destruction i see

No he doesn't, what are you talking about he voices Mikitaka (the alien) not Kira. Not to be rude but you should get your ears checked.

I liked him, but does DP ever recast people?

I’m pretty sure ASB diavolo was the guy voicing anime Kira, not valentine.

@@fernoshader1363 fuck ... oof

@@bug9591 yes

@XXENOLOGY Gyro was Bi, he wanted some limp dick, no one who wants to win carries around random cripple in race with them.

I'll stick with Anasui thank you very much

@@ellagage1256 Reminder that we were this close to yuri.

@@tasertag7513 Thankfully we dodged that bullet.

@@brosephnoonan223 much unlike Johnny

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Absolutely. Valentine's "patriotism" is a destructive force that he uses as a means of justifying abhorrent actions. It really is a terrifying nationalism. He's willing to discard the lives of those whom he deems lesser for the sake of preserving a nebulous abstract ideal of a country that doesn't actually exist.

Thats not Nationalism. Thats Zealotry

Karnacle Blackburn Nationalism is zealotry

@@LongSinceDead1 no. Nationalism is an extreme patriotism? Zealotry is an extreme form of nationalism An extreme of something, cannot be considered the same as the base thing

Not to mention that populations can double in like 30 years. What’s the long term plan? Snap every 30 years? Well that wouldn’t work out since he can’t use it again afterwards, apparently. He’s wrong - full stop. His “solution” would likely result in a faster growth rate and a much larger population in 40 or 50 years.

@@badbeardbill9956 exactly

Thanos in the comics is a weirdo, he has an obsession with lady death and kills people to woo her. Valentine is a different case..

somehow the people 'who did nothing wrong' all raped a girl lol

@@theflashgordon193 did you do nothing wrong?

FV did nothing wrong = Dio and Diavolo are good guys, they're just misunderstood

@@ryu246 Also, Yoshikage Kira just wanted a quiet life, only killing because he was on the thot patrol, or to defend himself.

@@ryanm.8720 yes

Hot Pants is pretty cool, ngl.

#NotAllValentines

Solarx64 I mean, he didn’t know that it was Lucy at first to be fair.

@@drago9000 HE STILL CONTINUED TO FORCE HIMSELF ON HER AFTER DISCOVERING SHE WAS LUCY. ARE YOU TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE PRESIDENT RAPING A GIRL?

Gekke Gijs griffith raped casca ✊😔

What about that train conductor he trapped in the mirror by roping his dead alternate self to his back. There was no reason to do that. Same thing with killing the bee stung security guard.

Oh lord I'm imagining now the Steel Ball Run dub with Valentine's VA just calling his stand "Faderp"

FAAARP btw

I really hope the dub calls D4C "Crimes for Dimes" because that would make it C4D or you know "I aint gay but 20 bucks is 20 bucks"

it's faaarp you absolute normie

@@Oceaniz well they can call it D4C without getting in trouble, so I'm assuming they'll say D4C as much as they can

That and the napkin speech for his true motivation for American Supremecy. His lust for power can not be quelled until America has ultimate power and the other geo-political powers are forced to follow America's lead. Similar to how many poorer nations are exploited for labor or other resources irl.

American imperialism is minuscule compared to Britain, the Dutch, France, Portugal, Japan, and Germany. Power exists regardless of your desire to take it, and only when America obtained it, did all these other countries fall in place out of fear and claim to be righteous.

@@AYVYN That sounds like something Valentine would say before gunning down some cripple.

@@AYVYN "ummm acctually, america good others bad. My opinion is definately not tainted by favoritism uwu."

It would result in a war. This is a body of Jesus Christ after all. Many people would be hurt and killed over it. Steel Ball Run race was made to prevent this.

He could search for the body in his spare time. D4C makes Valentine an army unto himself by being able to access his other universe counterparts. He wins the election campaign and starts learning how to actually govern whilst his copies go incognito and search America for the corpse parts. He could have good governing and the corpse part plan working at the same time.

That would come at the expense of one of the greatest Jojo parts though...

because the whole part was a consequence of Hey Ya ability

The thing is in a sense he needs 'fated' individuals to find the parts, you know the whole 'stand users attract other stand users'. I think he was trying to find strong willed individuals for that. And the race to me looks like one of the best, with the lowest risk ways of doing that.

Yeah

Pretty much.

Too many people misinterpret his character and it's honestly so hilarious to me. The amount of mental gymnastics you'd have to go through to believe he's the "good guy" is crazy.

@@link0714 His charisma breaks the 4th wall, making real people believe him

If it makes you feel better, the Villains Wiki/Heroes Wiki community categorizes Funny Valentine as Near Pure Evil (aka just a couple redeeming qualities away from being a completely heinous monster whose every action is immoral and spreads unmatched evil)

Who the hell is _Lucky_ Valentine? (Don't answer, I know you just made a goof.)

It kinda is but some unironically think that and it genuinely baffles me

It's a stock meme to say that "X did nothing wrong".

Valentine: *tugs strings coming from Pavees Fox's brain* Valentine: Yeeess! dance for me, my little charismaticly brainwashed pawn

He'd have no way of knowing if this was going to work out or not. Hindsight is always 20/20.

oxymoron and yet it did. So acting as though it’s an utterly foolish idea when he has a way to access alternate universes probably can make you know some things others don’t. I’m not saying Funny is a good person because SBR doesn’t have good people (mostly because there are no good people)

@@7411starfox So? if it's a stupid idea, but it works, then guess what, it wasn't a stupid idea.

@@tykixds That's not true. A stupid idea that happens to work is still a stupid idea. The race just wasn't a stupid idea.

Successful? Ehhhhh...

He's more of a hitler than a trump The dude is insanely smart for a "selfless" person

@@rattila5858 He is very very ignorant but he convinced an entire nation the same stupid shit he believed in even though it was kinda through other people or so, but still. And he delivers the most convincing speeches in the most powerful manner mixing truth and propaganda. And german technology because sekai ichi during his time and Valentine kinda wants America to be on the top of pretty much everything. The dude knew what to do and what not to do until Russia. In those aspect Valentine and hitler are pretty similar. Trump and valentine doesn't have that much of a connection in my eyes.

@@rattila5858 You call it stupid table talk because you have the power of hindsight. There are big reasons why his strategy worked so well. Right place, right time and all that.

Eeeehhhh... Trump doesn't really have much charisma. He's just kind of a jerk, personality wise. I say this as someone who voted for him.

@@katsu890 don't you have something better to do? Like float around in space

@@katsu890 duwang man wins, nice try tho

Ultimate Kars Wow, you're dense, he's referencing kars floating in space, the name you took on.

@@noakinn How can I be dense if I have 500 IQ?

@@katsu890 hey cars, did a asteroid hit u to go back to earth? If so were doom.

No, I think the idea is eventually Valentine's recklessness will cause him to either go mad with power or fuck up and get everybody killed/screwed over, regardless of how lucky his poor decisions seem to be. I would much rather a competent leader who is stable and makes decisions that don't work out perfectly sometimes but ultimately cares about his country as opposed to an incredibly lucky yee-yee-ass egomaniac.

As for evidence of that, look at everyone valentine recruited to do shit for him. Diego, all his bodyguards, the whole Steel Ball Run race and all the casualties in general. They all met a pretty shitty end, due to either Valentine's actions themselves or circumstances he put them in as a result of following him.

I meam in just terms of pure morality there is something to be said for putting aside personal differences and beliefs and distain for greater long term achievement, but there really is only so far that benifit could go before following that person is straight up making you sell any shred of common decency you have and you're just as bad as them if not worse through enabling them for your and your people's benifit. Even if its for the sake of someone besides you, selfish, irresponsible behavior is selfish irresponsible behavior. Now if we bring common logic into it, its literally only a matter of time before that person fucks you over or crosses a line big time with their actions one way or another.

That's a very interesting question. I'd have to say that even if they do benefit the group, if I can't agree or vouch for what they do, then no.

I think I would sit down at a table Put some napkins to our left and some to our right , you know ? Then I would take a deep breath,look that leader square in the eyes..... And take the first napkin !

As an American I agree. He is an ultranationslistic, delusonal, shithead. Great character though lol

I mean its a meme

Wait what tf were you going about a year ago, grass

That would be his grandson

@@mis_l5858 I see you're a man of culture as well