Right, my man just "Hangs out" in 8k res.

@@standarsh8056 most just watch him for entertainment, I highly doubt anyone not having amd GPU is specifically going out to search for this topic.

Ancient gameplays is the youtube channel you want to watch when it comes to AMD overclocking and adrenaline software stuff.

Same!!

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@@erwinmatic5062 Ancients has all the AMD info for sure

Same here! I managed to undervolt my RX580 from 1150mV to 1070mV, while keeping the stock clock of 1411MHz, but the max power usage dropped from 170W to 130W, and the card never reaches 60°C, fantastic!

Same. I like running things efficiently and quietly. Lower Temps means lower fan speeds so better performance per watt is always my goal.

Can it help with reducing coil whine? I want to buy the 7900 XTX but I've read story's of very loud coil whine.

@@Brabant076 it can help you can't know. I was lucky to get a 3070 and 3080 right after release and the 80 had massive coil "rattle". One of my friends wanted to buy either card from me for the price I paid and I almost gave him the 80 due to the noises it made! I then used the video from Optimum Tech about undervolting and reduced the 3080 clockspeed from 1950 to 1790 while dropping the voltage from just above 1000 mV to 830 mV. The card basically went fully silent! Performance loss is 1to1, so 1790/1950 = 8% in theory. BUT the games that ran into the power limit and would've needed that performance made the clock speeds drop to 1750 MHz anyway... So in the end I gained 40 MHz in the power limit while making the gpu silent and drop the average Watt when not at the limit about 120W from 330W to 210W!

@@1337Ox I did the same thing with my old rx 570. 990mV at 1284MHz (Stock) instead of 1150mv, which was too much.

this guy needs to script and edit his videos. it's impossible to watch him stutter and ramble

@@gm08351 H'mkay, I like it the way it is.

@@gm083513.62m followers say otherwise

That’s not it. It’s the new desynced shader clocks they are using this generation! They are super power intensive so when you take PL headroom away those start downclocking in the background!

No! Infinity fabric works between GCD and MCD here not like regular Zen cpus.

That's what I said in his last video ..... Technically it's Infinity Cache on a GPU but it works kind of the same as Infinity Fabric on a CPU. Chiplet design does NOT GAIN YOU PERFORMANCE, it only lowers the cost of manufacturing but you are going to take a hit to performance compared to a monolithic design. In AMDs own literature they said they had to raise the GPU clock frequency 200-300MHz to get back some of the performance lost with the chiplet design. That should tell you that AMD is already pushing the clocks as high as possible out of the box. Much like Ryzen CPUs it's going to take another generation or two for AMD to tune the Infinity Cache to get as much out of it as possible, perhaps get it so 100 MHz increase in clocks evens things out. Even as good as Infinity Fabric is on Ryzen CPUs there is still a limit on RAM speed and Intel can do a few hundred MHz more than AMD because of their monolithic dies

probably controller clock speeds downclocking but you can't see that value because AMD said no... maybe we will get access to that value in future.

@@longjohn526 You can technically gain more maximum performance if you combined multiple GCD's, but that's not something they did this time, mainly because the interconnect isn't fast enough for that (not enough bandwidth). With a monolithic die you'd have so many defects at such large sizes that it's going to be close to impossible to match such a chiplet design (if you're capable of manufacturing a GPU with multiple GCD's).

And in regards the 'why not just buy a lower tier card if you're going to undervolt' sometimes the higher tier card is still faster. A 3080 at 280W (83% power) and 5% less framerate handily outclasses a 3070 Ti at the same power draw.

I gained ~9% fps by undervolting my 6900xt to 1065mV

The thing with AMD cards is undervolting gets you more performance tho

@@thesaltlick4057 can you share other settings you changed? I have a gigabyte 6900xt gaming oc

That is the idea yes, but with the current GPU boost algorithms an undervolt will result in lower temperatures and lower power consumption, leading to higher boost. And with NVIDIA (at least before 4000 series) the cards were power limited, so undervolting would drop the power for a certain clockspeed, allowing a higher clockspeed before hitting the limit. Thereby also increasing performance.

From my own experience. The Liquid Devil comes with an EK block and its almost identical behavior as the Red Devil. Same board/bios as the Red Devil just under water.

I got a 5700xt, can never get any stable OC settings, can I ask you what you're running and you're settings?

​@@W3NNISI'm running 1087mv 2050 core 1850memory

@@W3NNIS Biggest thing about the RX 5700 and XT is how many 8 pin connectors it has, my reference XFX RX 5700 had two 8 pin connectors and it took the XT bios and would still auto overclock stable to 2049mhz, reference used the highend XT boards with better power phase design. not all RX 5700 XT are the same power design. Someone showed a reference RX 5700 XT in a video and it had one 6 pin and one 8 pin connections, that will never do for overclocking and makes me think it had weaker silcon on board and why the 6 pin connection on an XT.

I UVd my 6800xt just 25mV while setting max to 2600.. my Timespy score tanked by 2000pts compared to stock!! WHY?

@@W3NNIS 5700 XT doesn't have a lot of headroom, neither on the memory, neither on the core due to the 1.2V limit. My card can only OC reliably to 1830 MHz on memory and 2080 MHz on core. Some games will accept 2120hz, but not all. Going beyond 1.2V allows higher clocks. For undervolt, I'm usually maining 2000 MHz at 1.112V.

How is AMD treating you? 💀

@@Pisscan Totally not warranted. Please take your childish trolling/bootlicking else ware. *coming from a 3080 user*

@@Pisscan Probably good? Been treating me good for years as has Nvidia until these 2 grand gpus lmao

@@ElementalDonnie I asked the AMD user for their personal opinion. Please stay in your lane.

@@Pisscan Lmao 💀

Hi, I'm trying to remember how Can I Do OC scanner with MSI afterburner on my RX 480... Newer MSI AFTERBURNER can't gave that for me at this point, so I' might have to ditch it. So If you can tell me how to Apply PBO thing to my RX480 that would be sick.

It's not always about temp. On watercooled GPUs, you'll see silly-low temps but still benefit from undervolting.

​@rustler08 Agreed. I have been using a 3080 FTW3 with watercool kit. It runs ice cold with the undervolt and I can push it surprisingly far beyond stock. Performance is maybe 5%-10% less than overvolting at 400W. With the undervolt it runs around 250-315W and WAY cooler.

Here we are a few months later and it’s still the same issue. Can’t raise minimum clock speed without tanking fps

They're software is very sensitive to crashing though, I played cyberpunk 2077 with a OC using afterburner with zero crashes on my first playthrough, then tried Amd's OC software hoping for less overhead and maybe slightly better performance, but the game crashed(flatlined) for the first time within 10 minutes of play

@@chillhour6155 not just that, forcing reverting to default settings after some failure... meanwhile the only thing i changed is the fan curve lmao

Agreed, you can even see Memory Errors if you push your VRAM clock too high

HWinfo is definitely superior.

I was just trying to remember while watching, "Isn't all that shown in HWiNFO64..?"

No not really. For example, the radeon 6600 non xt from powercolor gives you nothing.

I'm glad I learned about HWInfo64 right now.

Ancient plays have the best video with overclocking the 7900

Jay still got it wrong You shoud overclock the vram first until you see a drop in performance after findings the max vram speed you can begin to raise core clock and undervolt You should aim for the highest vram speed to gain max performance But maybe try more core clock and less vram speed as well it could be better each card is different afterall

just go watch Ancient Gameplays for RDNA overclocking guide. you're not getting it here.

Rx 7900xt (Not XTX) Best results so far. 1. Increase Power limit to the maximum, which is common 2. The memory clock operates at approximately -20Mhz higher than the set value. (eg: 2640=2626) 3. For undervolting, slide the maximum clock up and observe the core voltage displayed on Adrenaline. The lower the core voltage, the longer the higher clock will be maintained. 4. For reference products, the power consumption does not exceed 400W. 5. There are differences depending on the product, but PL+15%, maximum clock setting of 3300 to 3400, memory 2640Mhz, core voltage 980mV, and maximum clock around 3Ghz sounds the best so far. Cooling needs to be increased. (Fan speeds) 6.AIO products can get more 200~400Mhz here. 7. You can use MSI after burner since it's more aggressive.

Buying a 7900xt was your first mistake 💀

maybe at those clocks theres a bunch of correctable memory errors and the GPU is wasting a bunch of time correcting 1 bit errors, which would lower memory controller utilization and perf.

@@WTFZOMG actually that sounds very plausible!

@poolshark2880 Do you think there might be a bad timing chip somewhere on the board that is causing it not to show. I am thinking there has to be a hardware silicon chip that isn't up to spec and that is why @Jayztwocents is having issues with it not showing in the bar. It could very well be the firmware but my gut feeling is it is a hardware issue and not just software or firmware. I'd like to know what is really causing this but we may never know.

@@Laforge129 it's not a silicon problem. I'll ask the team at work but not likely results that would be shared publicly ...

@@poolshark28 Any new insights?

I have the 7900 XT Hellhound and was able to get similar results to yours, but it's not at all stable in MW2. So I personally find stress testing with Time Spy pretty much useless, if it can't handle a super popular modern title with the same settings.

@@mikidof indeed Timespy is not a real world test, after playing for a while was getting weird issues, but dialed back the memory and it's fine now. Didn't see that much difference in perf vs stock so I've just gone the other way and tried to make it as quiet as possible while retaining the stock performance.

Same

Lol

Well I like u :3

I love lamp

Fabio’s an AMD overclocking Guru

He does a terrible job explaining those settings.

​@757Bricksquad who does?

Yep he did. That guy is a gift

He is great honestly the reason I never had the issues many had with the 5700xt.

For my 5700xt at least short tests dont reach the full temp clockdown threshhold so they dont show the full benefit of undervolt...

theres many guides online already for all sorts of cpus and gpus

@@wilihey1425 That's not what he asked.

@@FoShizzleMyPizzle there are literally guides for undervolting cpus and gpus step by step

I mean, just do what Jay is doing in this video. Start off with default settings, then try lowering your voltage while doing test runs. You should be able to lower voltages at least 25-50 mV and you should see some improvement in temps as well as clocks. The more time you're willing to spend, the further you can push your tune.

@@wilihey1425 And what that mean???? He obviously trust what Jay is doing thus the reason for asking him to do it.. I hate seeing comets like yours, he didn't ask you.. most people don't trust everything they see online.. he asked who he felt comfortable with watching.. move around dude..

I think you might be onto something there. I don't really keep track of all of the fabric stuff, but I do remember that the memory 'sweet spot' is 6,000MHz before it switches to 1:2. The thing with ram is, they add each channel to give it its' rated speed. A memory stick's frequency is actually 3,000MHz, but it uses dual channels to "double the speed" to hit the advertised 6,000MHz,

6800XT and 6950XT are two of the greatest GPU products ever made, I swear nobody realises how far these things will pu0sh when extra power is applied and cooling is present. Well done AMD for this entire last 3 generations of CPU and GPU products, really amazing. Without RTX gimmick sales nVidia would literally have nothing. They definitely need to win the next generation!

That's what I think as well, and it makes sense. Too bad we cannot see both clocks (shader clock speed AND front-end clock speed), maybe in the future it will be possible with some updates.

@@1337Ox I'm sure AMD will make those changes to their software at the very least. I think that it was something they just overlooked. Even if you cant change the clock, they will definitely let you view it at the very least

Just bought the same exact card. How much did temp changed after undervolting?

@@Rol4nnd sorry didn't do a comparison ^^ grats on your card, this is actually the best air-cooled model for temps. Depending on how lucky you are with the sillicon lottery you might even undervolt a bit further than I did

Any chance you could share a screenshot of your config in the AMD software?@@jujuliolezesuiglaz1780

Same here (6800), Ancient Gameplays has a lot of AMD videos

Hi man, i have a 7900xt and a ryzen 7 7700x, i bought on the system a PSU corsair tx750m with 750W, can you help me with some advices how i can overclock a little bit this gpu to be safe considering the amount of power of the psu. Thank you very much!

thanks!

@edyluchian I'm running an evga 750w with a 5800x3d and got those numbers. Remember results vary by card you'll have to test but the test methodology should stay the same

Got my 7900 XTX to overclock to 3095MHz from just using their auto overclock option - pretty crazy.

Is overclocking safe? And is it worth it when I'm already playing pretty much maxed?

@@panikk2245 This rule applies to both overclocking and buying new GPUs: If you're already maxing out your FPS and resolution for your monitor and your settings for the games you actually play, there's no need to upgrade any more. You can if you just want to, of course, but there's no reason to.

Yay Ancient Gameplays did great videos on this topic, he deserves a lot more subs Just be carefull when you use RayTracing GPU usually need more juice for it, so you can have a stable UV/OC in full raster that crashes with RT enabled

Exactly what Demmrir said. If you’re already maxed, don’t worry about it. Squeezing an extra 5-10% isn’t going to do much for you for the time it’ll take to fine tune your GPU. It’s only if you want/need to push the limits to get the performance you want or you’re an enthusiast like me and just want to see how hard you can push your card. As Jay said before, you should never buy a GPU for its overclocking potential. The AMD software is pretty good about stopping you from killing your GPU, as long as you don’t try a massive overvolt, power limit increase, overclock. Less is more for overclocking.

Every time I try to tune the vram frequency on my 6600M it locks the max core frequency to 500 mhz. I can only overclock/undervolt core for some reason. Power limits and fan control are fine

It's tighter memory timings, if you are running stock memory speed you'll be fine with fast, unless the silicon lottery really skunked you. If you're overclocking, the default will let you get to a higher frequency. You then have to test if the lower frequency with tighter timings is more performant than higher frequency with loser timings. It's usually one or two percent difference between them, except for some edge cases.

Also some games will let you. Run both high Frequency and fast timings. While other games will crash with fast timings even at a lower frequency. You have to test on ever game you play. And adjust setting that best for each game. Than save it as a profile. Also after updating/changing drivers you might have to Tweak the profiles.

Well 1100 point increase is 7% and 7% in game that's running at 80fps is 5fps. As he said, you can expect a 3-5fps increase.

@@DuBstep115 5 whole fps .. wow 💀

@@Pisscan lol yeah, totally worth the effort!

No they didnt they did what they always do, have always done and will always do, 20+ years of AMD and ATI Cards :) This behavior is in ALL AMD Cards and its caused by a lack to total power, AMD Do NOT like (nvidia) slap a 600 watt power stage setup on a 300 watt card, if they need 300 watts power stages provide N + 10%. Then again in my life time I've never really overclocked GPUs and thanks to mining i got undervolting down to an art form :)

My gigabyte eagle 6700xt gets up to 2777. I could fiddle with some dials and get better results but i noticed a significant increase in cyberpunk framerate (37 up to 65) which was with the adrenalin utility on a 1440p display.

Biggest uptick in performance with the 6700 you can get is change the memory to fast timings.

Interesting. I've got my 6700xt red devil running at 2600-2920 mhz, mem maxed, powerlimit maxed, at 1060mV... any higher and it would throttle down clocks. It's about a 7-8% performance increase for a 9% power draw increase.

That's so weird... My 6800 XT doesn't have this behavioral issue.

@@NeededByNobody both my 6900xt's do it. They won't crash they'll just start dropping performance.

This also happens with my RX580. I can push my memory to 2300MHz and while it is stable, the performance drops, and actually in HW Info you can see Memory Errors. And they do happen. So that's why. It's not only with 6000 and 7000 series. I guess you can think of it like ECC memory, where it tries to correct the errors and loses performance, but is stable. So everytime you overclock memory, keep an eye on the memory errors.

@@damianstevenson1196 If I am not mistaken it's like a memory lottery of some sorts, a majority of cards have this issue, but a few subset does not. I was having core frequency performance loss on air though, 2,500 was faster than 2,700, but when I went on water the issue was eliminated... Probably relating to temps.

@Menti Capti what does yours do?

6800xt is a card that's far from power limited, it's a 72cu card if I'm not mistaken, most of the time they're equipped with a similar 3 to 4 slot cooler as a 6900, generally with 6000 series a 6800xt is basically a defective 6900 so it's still very happy to boost, the way that AMD uses boost is to reference heat and power head room, if you have tons of head room in both then it will use the voltage available to it to ensure that what ever speed it can reasonably boost to will be safe and stable, obviously board manufacturer bios and which bios is in play on dual bios cards will impact how the boost algorithm decides what to do. I have a 6900xt, specifically an Aorus master, I have inline capacitors to maintain clean power even in transience and power fluctuations, lots of things add up to the performance of your card, your card may be pulling that voltage for a number of reasons, boost may be one, if your card is hooked up with a pig tailed power cable can be another, amperage tends to be the limit on that set up as too many amps cause a hell of a lot of heat so voltage is added to compensate as it's easier to step it down and regulate it, For reference my 6900 runs perfectly in and around 2800mhz @1120mv & 310w worth noting that my card has a 1200mv cap, memory has been a secondary concern as oc on the older 6x00 cards is worse than a 6x50 from what I've seen so is run conservative @2120mhz on fast timing, This is an example of a card that's had every precaution taken to ensure it gets enough and consistent power delivery, individual 8pins on a 1000w common rail psu, sounds over kill but my performance speaks for itself, my now defunct gpu is sniffing at the heels of some of the new card coming out like the 4080 admitted it's not a hard mark given it's relative performance to a 3090 but it certainly shows that some of the high end cards will last for years, it's enough to be bottle necked on a 5800x3d which is nuts at 2160p.

I have a 6800 (non XT). I have set the voltage to 950 mV and the frequency to 2330/2430 (min/max). Memory to fast timings and frequency to 2100. Power to 15%.

@Elysian My 6800xt is in a custom loop so temperature is never a problem. The best OC I can get is 2550-2650 and 2130 on the memory and my junction is at about 60. Just always thought it was weird that if I try to undervolt it the voltage won't budge off of 1150mv while overclocking. I'm also considering a 4080 or 4090 but that would also warrant a platform upgrade as well since my 5900x will bottleneck them (definitely didn't see that coming). Really the 6800xt is enough for me but it's coil whine is obscene and while it does improve with undervolting and frame limiting it still never gets to a volume that I can't hear. I've seen that some of the 4080 and 4090 models seem to have very little coil whine and since I spent all this money on a custom loop to have a quiet build, my screaming gpu made it seem pointless.

@Samir Ben Karroum I can undervolt it if I set those kinds of frequencies down to 980mv but if I overclock it the voltage won't change

@@philrdaly better make sure it's your gpu with the coil whine and not the GPU. My 6800xt has basically zero coil whine on my sf600 or sf750 but I tried the cooler master sfx 850 watt and coil whine was bruuuuuutal from the PSU. Returned it the next day and bought the sf750 which was essentially silent.

Adrenalin driver 22.5.2 introduced DX11 optimizations back in June so you are probably seeing a performance uplift on DX11 games. Greatest uplift for me was on AC: Odyssey.

I mean you can get an XTX for like 950 right now. Just how cheap do you expect a card that can play basically every AAA game in native 4K at over 120 frames to be? There is really only a handful of displays that can even fully take advantage of what this generation of cards has to offer yet you seem to think its too expensive.

@@chrisbruchak4519 Yeah, 700 seems extremely unrealistic, the card is worth probably around 850-950 imo.

Just got a 7900xt for $750, buy while you can !

Just picked up a 7900 XT for $720 around Black Friday

And if its not stable then what do you do?

@@Farrcast7 add voltage,reduce max frequency or lower vram settings. Each card will be different and you will have to find the right settings for your exact card.

This was my situation, more power tool increasing max power limit was a godsend. But annoying that I couldn't do it in afterburner or amd's own software.

@@jagvirsodi8192 How do i use this that you are talking about? What is it and how do i get it? Thanks

Be interesting to see what the water-cooled ones can do.

What did you put your settings at? I have the same card.

@@dirrti3rsanchez387 I have a gigabyte aorus card. I let it auto oc and wrote down those numbers then put them all in manually. Then, I bumped the core up by increments of 10 while running the benchmark in the background. It was something like maxed vram and 2794mhz on the core with a slight undervolt. I ended up turning it off though because it got really wonky during screen recording and video editing. Turns out Jay maybe right and the AMD cards are a lot more delicate with their clocks. Can't go wrong upping your fan curve and power limit though.