So it turns out I was wrong about the ending part starting at 13:10 I spent some time asking around the team hitless discord before I made this video to try and clarify some stuff, and one of the people there mentioned that Dodge Rolls have a 2-frame startup window. Turns out this is NOT true, so him I-framing that projectile is possible with a frame perfect roll. I should have verified this myself rather than just taking somebody's word for it, so it's entirely my bad, and I'll do better in the future. I've decided to not take this video down though, because I'd much rather just admit I'm wrong with a correction in the comments. Deleting a video every time I'm wrong about something feels like I'm hiding all my mistakes, and that feels very disingenuous.

I watched this whole video without getting hit (segmented)

“Take a look at this clip, and pay close attention to the audio” Ad plays “Did you catch that” Why yes that audio did change quite a bit

the "you guys should have just told me to change the title and i totally would have!" response is so disingenuous as if he never meant to mislead anyone

15:20 You clearly are a beginner to Elden Ring. The ability he used to take no damage is a spell called "Cheating". It's a spell you can find in a chest in the DLC, pretty much at the beginning. It enhances the duration of your iFrames by 2000000%.

Cant believe you would splice this youtube video together and not do it in a single take. Unsubbed

Also, during no-hit runs, quitouts to reset enemy placement are not allowed.

Most of us who are casual fans of these runs don't always know what to look for. I saw someone in his comments complaining that he was doing quit outs. when the run is littered with splices and quit outs that have no purpose other than to splice

that's the thing you always see with cheated speedruns, the speedrunner does baffling unskilled maneuvers but still manages to make it by luck. Meaning that someone more skilled could easily replicate what they did and get a better time by optimizing the run with the same amount of luck

the saddest thing is that this videos will probably remain, and some peaple will belive them :( btw your video on elden ring are AMAZING!!. and thanks to you i bought the dlc.

No hitting my drunk dad when he is mad (segmented)

i also noticed that during the run through with the pests, he got hit by a single pest thread, which didnt damage him or torrent, even though it clearly went through their hitbox

13:26 I checked the hitbox on the golden arc and the hitbox is sligthly behind the arc and when the arc was just behind him(not touching him), his stamina got consumed meaning on the next frame he gets s, so he did the arc. So the run is still spliced but no evidence of god mode being enabled.

saw Gino react to this lmfao it was so obvious u dont even need to analyse it, you can just use your eyes and ears the cuts are as clear as day haha

Sidenote to 13:45 Roll Iframes start at 1st frame of the roll, so its perfectly fine if he spams roll, obviously the rest is spliced, but this one is fine

15:22 he leveled up his adaptability in DS2 to 99

ok i know u said not to harass this person but i'll RIDDLE WITH HOLES HIS ROTTEN HIDE ,WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS ,WITH EVERY LAST DROP OF MY BEING

In defense of that Holy Attack. Elden Ring has a mechanic where if a Weapon/Attack had already passed through the player during the invincibility frames it fails to register as a hit. It’s the same when making a riposte as it’s why even if the immediate hit makes contact right before the invincibility frames wear off, it does no damage despite the hitbox making contact. As it would be extremely unfair for an Invader to make a Riposte on the Host only for some Random Rescuer to charge a Heavy Attack Right when the invader is done making the riposte. This can also be shown during any duo Boss fight.

as someone who has watched every GinoMachino run and a ton of content from people like aggy, i'm 4 minutes in and already in disbelief. No kukris, no gambit, no 10 minute setups to script encounters, just balls to the wall hoping for good luck. full risk in a category about taking as little risk as possible. also i watch your channel for tf2 videos so i was pleasantly surprised to see this kind of content from you too. also also, there's *no* explanation for that arc not hitting him in enir ilim. Door i-frames do last a bit longer than you'd expect - it's not the moment your character stops opening the door, it's after they've got their weapon out. and yes, roll startup frames are very much a thing, and would completely fuck him there. it's why no runner relies on door s as a strat, there's a few frames where your hitboxes are active but your s aren't, even with frame perfect inputs, there's always a few frames of vulnerability. same thing with grace s, which is what makes the earlier ensis clip so insane. he *should* have got hit in enir ilim, there is no way in normal gameplay that you could replicate that.

I was willing to be more charitable to this guy when I thought he was maybe a relatively small channel, but each of his videos get upwards of 100k views, even breaking into the millions on some of them, that’s not okay at all, a lot of fame, praise, and (most likely) ad revenue being directed towards someone who absolutely does not deserve it, good on you for spreading the word

this does look crazy 15:35 , but several times while entering raya lucaria, I swear I should've been hit by the burger king dudes after opening the doors

maybe Karl Jobst should be informed. Just so that if he makes a video more people will know about this liar

That Pest Threads moment is ABSOLUTELY something you'd say "... yeah that was completely planned..." in the same tone as saying "not even close" when you kill a boss when you have 1hp left.

this feels just incredibly disrespectful towards the whole hitless and challenge run community. I’m glad it’s getting some coverage. Great video, thank you!

As someone who's consumed a lot of no hit content and did some routing myself for runs in games like DSIII, these "strats" made my jaw literally drop. And these sections aren't particularly difficult so that adds to it, but what's quite possibly the funniest aspect to me is grabbing the grace right before Castle Ensis. Why would you even need this? What a silly goose. Great video, btw!

Bullying people on the internet is not as cringe as faking hours of work

Stop fucking protecting his identity. Yes, dont harass him, but make him known to the community, like wtf

“Pay close attention to the audio” *random advert pops up whilst trying to listen*

not arguing against the fact that its spliced just want to mention if you go frame by frame, at 13:53 you can see the stamina drain from the roll just before it hits him 2-3 frames before where you pause. i dont know the attacks frame data to say for certain but if its small enough he couldve got an insanely lucky roll, as you can buffer rolls from door openings.

14:22 that’s…not true as far as I’m aware. Rolling I-frames starts immediately on the first frame, there is no 2 frames startup, not even for fat roll, you can check this with animation tools, this is true across all souls game. The startup delay ppl experience is an input delay, not an animation or I-frames delay.

I have to comment on the hardest run section; the fact the one on the roof didn't aggro until after he was at the door is a miracle because the door guy likes to aggro when you're near the first divine beast warrior

imagine you can get through all the other games but when you get to elden ring you get caught by the cops 😂

for the part near the end of the video about him opening the door in regards to cheats, i think it might be invincibility and/or automatic dodgeroll upon being hit. I want to point out the potential of them using an automatic dodgeroll, i believe that this is shown in the clip at 15:35, I think it's incredibly suspicious how well the first dodgeroll is timed, someone in this reply section pointed out that the stamina bar showcases the frame a dodgeroll occurs and it just happens to be the *exact* frame a projectile would've hit them. they also input buffer, either a mistake due to not knowing an opponent's attack (definitely possible), or his attempt to dodgeroll manually after the automatic one saves them. I watched *some* of the actual no hit video, with my confirmation bias in tow, i was able me to nitpick out some instances of invulnerability, these are a bit more subjective than splicing. these timestamps are not for this video but rather the no hit run video: 13:38 (someone should check whether you can be hit by the blade of this long ranged attack) 13:41 30:51 44:52 (i already pointed out this one) 45:05 (this one's already in the video but i can't stress how ridiculous this looks, the only way this is possible is if input buffering applies to the opening doors animation)

When content creators heart every comment that calls them out: It's what I call copium.

“Did you notice it?” Me yelling spliced in a public place

Htwo: "Listen carefully to this splice audio" KZfaq: "LIBERTY LIBERTY LIBERTY liberty"

the video by niko completely shafts the real player who achieved a no hit, i believe it was Question Marks

15:00 It's obvious why he wasn't hit here. He used his mangekyou sharingan eye. Hidden behind his white mask to transfer his weak, spliced spine to the kamui realm for extra i-frames.

The sad thing is, if he was just being honest and titled his videos appropriately, he could get the same amount of recognition anyway, but for the right reasons. Segmented runs contain useful information because they require a fair amount of planning and good execution. That could give other players ideas on how to get through a section more consistently. Or it could just be entertaining to watch. There's literally no need to lie. Getting exposed on the other hand can ruin his entire channel. The risk just isn't worth the short-lived fame.

Around 12:10 you said “spliced” and an ad for an editing app come up called “splice”. Perfect timing💀

I love it when tubers tell me what to do and how to act online. It's very special

he only apologized because he got caught. It was not "for fun" he clearly wanted to be recognized as a legit speedrunner.

Other moments that I believe are HIGHLY likely to be proof of invulnerability that are seen in this video: 1:48 - I believe the slam from the Bloodfiend has an aoe that would have at least stunned him, if not outright doing damage. 2:40 - The dude isn’t even block cancelling the animation for picking up the items on the ground. That animation slows you down and doesn’t let you roll until several frames in, as seen at about 2:41 when the dog bites him and he rolls after the bite animation is already finished (he was spamming dodge and so the input got buffered and was executed after the pickup animation finished). I’m pretty confident at least one of the two bites there did hit him. Not only is not knowing an extremely basic tech like block canceling indicative of this guy’s utter lack of knowledge of the game, it’s also responsible for him getting (likely) hit on multiple occasions even in a single clip. 3:39 - I’m pretty confident that one stray thread goes through Torrent’s head. It’s not super clear because Torrent’s head is mostly out of frame but it is EXTREMELY suspicious to say the least.

This person is trying to rob clout from a community and exploit people who dont know better. They apologize when they get caught and pretend to care. You aren't doing any justice hiding these people. They need to be exposed and shunned. You are activly doing a diservice by sheltering them.

Has bro never watched a no hit run, they don't play like a headless chicken

Rolling frames are active immediately as soon as you release the roll button and the invulnerability is active as soon as the dodge animation starts.

Even the Waterfowl dodges that came out early were done with godmode and hitboxes turned on for visual reference by MrBorkD. Most of the challenge run scene openly shares info and cheats. Its why old challenge runners like myself don't take challenge running seriously anymore.

1:00 bro started interrogating me when I was about to get up for some Tea 💀💀💀

this gives me massive epic youtuber minecraft hardcore letsplay vibes where the player is doing the craziest unsafe things ever, and it just works

I'm pretty sure I-frames are a little bit different when opening doors in elden ring, I've spammed roll when going through some and avoided a bunch of things I thought I wouldn't but I didn't check these things frame by frame so I could be wrong. The only way to know for sure is if you recreate a similar situation and see if spamming roll as you open doors just simply extends the I-frames as opposed to starting up new ones

Damm….i did watch that speed run and did not clearly hear the sound ques at the grace sites, thanks for the explanation

great detective work. i loved when you pulled out a spectrogram

I just rewatched a simple Malenia solo no summons fight of mine, and based on where her positioning was at numerous times, I would have 100 percent called me a cheater if I had no prior knowledge becauze there were minimum 5 times where it looks like I should have been killed and late rolled out. The reality is that I-frames, hitboxes and the systems that reference them to convey a hit just aren't reliable. Edit: That's not to say the guy in the video isnt a cheater. He is.

It is my belief that most no-hit runs are fake. If they are not live, i dismiss them outright, and even if they are live that is no guarantee. One of the biggest cheater fallacies is that someone is really good at the game so why would they cheat, when the reverse is true: people who are really good feel more entitled to cheat because they know they can do it - eventually - so why waste all that time? I'm not saying everyone cheats, I just believe most challenges are achieved with cheats, even if they are subtle ones.

i mean, your first clip of the pest missile strike thingie, sorta shown a single string of the pest attack connecting to him and torrent, yet he did not even "feel" it or much less took any damage. Same with the weird hippo thing. He knows exactly what was going on.

Speedrunner viewers/ community are probably one of the sharpest people ever.

No he halfway came clean and made an excuse saying “I never claimed it was an actual Hitless not spliced run” he knew what he was doing.

I'll harrass who I want, thank you very much Sir lol

Jesus christ we have a batman in elden ring now lmao. Good vid!

I called bullshit when I saw the plague thread going through him while on Torrent. Why would you enter an area with enemies using a homing rocket barrage on Torrent, which not only makes you a bigger target, but also robs you of your dodge roll? Sad guy, to sell your dignity this way for some Internet points.

"Gino or the Team hitless discord should have just told me to change the title of the Video and I would have happily obliged them." Is this guy serious? He should have added the "segmented/spliced" to his video title from the beggining. This just shows how disingenuous this guy is and all of his "apologizing" is just fake. No, he did not make this video because he thought it would be fun. He made it to garner audience, views and a title to himself being the first person to nohit this DLC. Not to mention, I can not even fathom how adding "speedrun" to his video title was a good idea. If anything, this is more like an anti-speedrun.

solid detective work... tarnished CSI :D

Me while watching: Sure, but just because they used unsafe strats doesn’t mean they couldn’t get lucky. H2: “So you’re probably thinking…” Me: Damn, he’s good..

He really tried to pretend he wasn’t trying to fool people.

My first thought was...Damn bro, the DLC just dropped and you already have a no hit run, but I agree for a speed run, he doesn't really move with any urgency, is too casual, doesn't really take precautions, and doesn't play as safe as a typical no hit runner where they only attack at specific times.

15:19 You forgot to grab the Ring of Splicing in one of the dungeons 😂

splicing was a thing that worked like 25 years ago. seeing people still trying this is so funny to watch, it’s insanely easy to see splices and invisible mods.

It's a classic cheater tactic to only admit to some parts of your wrongdoings and not all of it in the hopes that admitting that one thing gets everyone off your back. Where there's smoke, there's fire as some say.

lol this is just like the hollow knight pantheon hitless drama

I love your channel! Congrats on 100k!! (Don't know if I'm late to the party)

All I got is “this is hard to do, so he cheated”

"Pay close attention to the... plaudia." "Did you catch it?" ...No, no I didn't. lmfao

taking no damage despite getting hit is a common trend in no hit runs haha

So not only is the two frames startup on Dodges not true, but also the hitbox on those arcs are super wonky

Im so used to people “cheating” in elden ring i thought the video was just someone using rivers of blood

i saw the 1hr dlc speed thought it was legit. heartbroken. his name is nico bellik btw

I think I can prove that the hitbox thing isn’t fake. From what I’ve seen playing Elden Ring, there’s a frame of standing still with your items that makes you invincible, that guy might’ve gotten lucky for the projectile to hit him on that exact frame.

I mean, if he is cutting the run why would he cheat, he can just cut and try again, its pefect dodge timing, you can see the first milisecond the door animation ends he is already in the rolling animation, he probably spammed roll and it perfectly timed the shoot on the last pixel

idc what anybody says... Unga bunga roll has gotten me through some of my hardest moments in my souls runs.

Good video. Your other videos don’t really interest me so I wasn’t gonna subscribe and just watch something else, but then. But then I heard the risk of rain soundtrack as your outro. Fastest sub of my life

I’m not saying he isn’t cheating but @8:01 it could be that the game glitched and when he touched the grace it refreshed the area, it happens a few times while I was playing on ps4

clearly he didnt get hit by the projectile cuz he is him

This is spicy. Great video! I've started making elden ring videos recently and was debating doing a challenge run.

5:42 I completely object to that dodge being inconsistent. I can dodge it 100/100 times. You dodge as soon as you come near the left hand cliff that's slightly protruding into the stairs. I don't do no hit runs. I was just frustrated about being knocked by the ballista every time I reach that point so I learned how to dodge it 100% of the time.

Avoiding dad's belt and having a happy upbringing (segmented)

Serious note: if you’re depressed always remember “regression to the mean” it basically means that everything has to return to the average. Nothing lasts forever, not the good and certainly not the bad… I was severely depressed for 21 years and I’ve been the happiest I’ve ever been the last 4 years. Pain literally can not last forever.

What a plot twist that was! He wasn't segmenting his run to get sections where he didn't get hit. He was segmenting his run to get sections where IT LOOKS LIKE he didn't get hit! He was probably relived people thought it was just segmented. (And btw no, I'm not giving the benefit of a doubt to the guy who's lying about the very nature of his runs)

i enjoyed this video, great work man. Team Hitless takes pride in what we do and obviously we hate cheaters because it discredits other runners and their achievements. But i would like to say that in my opinion: An argument that says “why would he do this very unsafe strat” doesnt really makes sense when it is technically a “hitless speedrun” there are many examples in hitless speedrunning where we do very unsafe strats for the goal of speed. For example: Sekiro: - Yolo Gun Fort (running through gun fort is not safe due to the amount of gunshots that are thrown at you in the section). This is a heavy reset point if not the very main one. - Section running up to geni (frontside skip, for any knowers). This section is completely safe if you do it the hitless way, but when you add speed to it and are going for record time, then it’s recommended that you “yolo” this area too. Dark souls 3: - Deacons of the deep yolo attacking. With this routing you don’t have as many skulls so you need to just yolo attack these guys, this is a pretty heavy reset point. - irithyll section (yolo) usually you would branch here in hitless and this is usually a 2-3 minute process. But with speed added and a record time in mind, you need to run through and hope you don’t get hit by the knights roaming around in it. This would only be 30 seconds compared to 2-3 mins of time. Just a few examples of why i don’t really agree with that argument. Obviously anyone is entitled to their own opinion. I thought i would just share my thoughts with my bit of experience in hitless speedrunning. Great Video Htwo, i thoroughly enjoyed it.

Dude should just call himself FaZe

Bruh I can understand you dont want this video potentially taken down but you kinda gotta talk to these people or else this sht wont stop.

Those dogs at the magic castle site of grace def should’ve hit too

Don't care about the audio evidence. That Pest Threads BS is what sold it for me.

13:34 NOT ALWAYS! Lmfao. Ive seen all too many PLAN on those I frames and get stomped at a door or Teleporter ect.. "WHAT I HAD I FRAMES! RAAAA WTF MAN" Too funny.

Ten seconds in you can’t convince me this isn’t grian’s secret second channel

Soon there will be a “world first cheater” category

Guys it’s just a naming problem. He meant: No Hit (spliced)

niko belic strats are the best

Why am i hearing ultrakill music on the middle of the video? Am i going insane?

It's incredible how people still think they can get away with the common splice. It's the first thing people check for when they have any suspicions. This guy didn't even try to hide the audio cuts lol.

He's definitely using God mode. Which is not bad, but uploading it is. Sometimes people just want to play the game without any hassle, which I think is acceptable. Not everyone is a purist.