Not sure many bankers or accountants wear jeans in their offices but I understand where you’re going

And the Tucson N, since Volkswagen will not give its customers the Tiguan R or the T-ROC R.😁

That would be amazing. I would love it. The smaller the better as far as I am concerned.

It's too bad Hyundai doesn't make the Entourage anymore that as an N would be interesting.

@@damilolaakanni No T-ROC in North America at all.

@@afcgeo882 that’s exactly what he said

Yes! Check out the clearance on a Kia Niro 😆

If it's officially recognized as an SUV it's an SUV.

Alex had already reviewed the Kona N some weeks ago and the thumbnail text did address the nebulousness of what this vehicle does or looks like vs what Hyundai markets it as (crossover): "Whatever it is...its fun!"

@@scott8919 There’s no such thing as an “official recognition.”

It’s kind of moot. Basically “everything” is an suv/cuv these days-“cars” are basically gone because they don’t sell. Yes, the niro is just a raised unibody hatchback, but so are 80% of the new vehicles made now.

Civic Type R has more power and doesn’t need AWD

All Facts. Nicely Stated.

@@baldheadlogic I appreciate you!🙏🏼

I do not disagree... BUT.. Hyundai has mainly just put the same engine and suspension on other vehicles that they already have, and do not get me wrong its awesome to see this, but it is really the same car that can fit different lifestyles as oppose to many sports car options. again, still dope.

@@poppachoppa8956 Exactly, they figured it out! I totally see your point.✌🏼 Now Imagine a Supra with it's own Toyota inline v6, and then they make it fit into an Avalon TRD, I'm 100% it wouldn't have being discontinued, oh, and by the way, we made it fit into a Highlander TRD that is competing vs MDX type S and the Ms and AMGs, of Europe. Wouldn't that be amazing?🧐

@@HappyCarReviews Honestly, anything to get these engines in consumers hands at a reasonable price before electric vehicles become so widespread that it takes center stage. The Veloster N powertrain being used everywhere is a really cool proof of concept for other manufacturers to follow suit, fingers crossed!

I owned a stinger 3.3TT GT for a year.This is a better vehicle for all around use.The stinger sits very low and is really a sports car.The skirts etc--had dings and nicks on it and I am a careful driver and ceramic coat the car.I sold it for a huge profit 6 months ago--bought a CX-30 premium plus turbo--and just traded the mazda today--even trade on a 22 KONA N--paid 1k for the taxes and fees and the KONA is just way better overall then a stinger because of the ride height--better fuel mileage.The stinger--I have videos of me at public drag---- does have insane performance.I have 100s of hours of track time and for a daily driver the KONA N is perfect--I am starting a learning curve and will shoot videos after the break in period for the KONA--but for something under 40k--it has exceptional performance--also the brakes are fantastic--i plan on putting cross drilled and vented rotors on mine soon to make it totally track level.

I got mine at MSRP by walking away and then calling back and telling them if they didn’t lower the price I would wait.

I know and I had to decide between the two of these vehicles last weekend and I ended up buying a Kona N. I was replacing the VN DCT and I went to a much more comfortable vehicle and I am so pleased with the purchase.

@@anonymous00117 The N Line Kona is the same as the Limited 1.6T. The Elantra N Line actually does have suspension tuning changes (Stiffer front spring rate and shock tuning), multi-link rear suspension, and some other small tweaks over base Elantras including the 1.6T engine. The Kona N Line and Tucson N Line are the two fully appearance based N Line's so far. All other N Line models have very functional upgrades over their base counterparts.

It's an e-LSD and it's available on the Veloster N and now, the Elantra N too. The later model GTIs (2018+ Performance Packs) have them along with the Focus ST (the current model that we don't get in the US) does too. Although the GTI mk7.5 doesn't lock as hard as a Veloster N. The GTI mk8 can lock as hard and is adjustable via the infotainment, just like the Veloster N. There's also the Corvette C7 (don't know which models) that comes with an e-LSD and is currently the only car that I know of that is RWD with the e-LSD. Lookup "VW VAQ" if you want to know more on how it works as they are all clutch type LSDs and they all work the same.

You can from the GTI or the Integra.

@@afcgeo882 I would add the Civic R but when it lands the dealers will have "market adjustments"

@@stevethomas760 The Civic Type R is a higher category of performance, closer to the Golf R and the WRX STi, but there are no standards really.

@@afcgeo882 I agree, higher standard = $$

Brian, I feel the same way. If it had AWD and a manual transmission option I think it would be a great alternative to the GTI. I think it will all come down to price. If it's going to be the same MSRP as the GTI, I think people will choose the GTI. Other than the infotainment unit of the new GTI, I think VW has the upper hand over this vehicle. If Hyundai prices this 2-3 thousand dollars less than the GTI, it may take some sales away from VW but still not enough to be a serious sales threat.

I've seen reviewers say no one would cross shop this with a GTI. This literally is a GTI. Nearly identical width, length, cargo space; the GTI has better rear legroom; the N is 2" taller. The GTI's motor is underrated, and the N's motor is overrated... net result the quarter mile is nearly identical. GTI gets better mpg and is cheaper. So sure - Hyundai did a good job making this, but the GTI has existed for a long time.

Not in US

Some snow tires w/ the eLSD at it will be just fine.

veloster N and elantra N are also great

But it’d be well over 35k at that point

@@GHinWI since it wouldn’t have competition it would be worth it

@@D.mo7 just buy the golf R

It is not bad at all

As an owner of the KN, it is leagues better than their previous 7-speed DCT, but you can sometimes catch first gear being a little rough. Doesn't happen often though.

and this is 35k. not that much more

Not with that type of power.

Agreed, by the time they put in AWD and beef up the DCT to handle said AWD, it will cost as much as a Golf R. In that case I might as well just buy the Golf R.

@@thomaschan4981 Hyundai wants you to spend $40k on a Tucson N instead of a Kona N.

Yeah abut the fluid change. If it’s one of those “fIlL fOr LiFe” systems, where the life of the whole transmission is defined by how long the fluid lasts, that’d be a real fail.

My wife has an '18 Soul turbo, with the 7-speed DCT, which I believe was Kia/Hyundai's first effort at a DCT. It's awful, especially off the line and when moving slowly. I suspect they've gotten better by now, and this is obviously a different unit being 8-speed.

@@BrakRulesAll It's that dct a dry one??? I believe it is, and a wet dct makes a difference.

@@Retiredmco 7 speed is dry yes.

@@princesiraj1 Yes the Kia soul turbo has 7 speed dry dct. But Kona N is a wet dct 8 speed.

Maybe with the 2023 facelift upgrade, there will also be an AWD model of the Kona (Kona N) with an electric motor in the rear axles. 🤔

👍🏻

In terms of performance this CUV is still leauges better lmfao.

I snagged an outgoing Mk 7.5 Autobahn and LOVE IT. And its footprint with what it offers is got about the most practical, functional space available in North America. I also wanted it for the tow capacity. I did a lot of in-depth research and it's got the identical Transmission, clutch, engine and tune that you get out of the European version and it's rated to tow 700kg unbraked and 1600 kg with trailer brakes... so for us Americans: you can tow in excess of 1,500-3,500lbs and be within "factory spec". Remembering the laws are different over there and driving conditions can be very different depending on where you're at, I would shave a bit off this if I was going to hit the freeway with semis and pickup trucks with massive campers on going 80mph without anti away hitches, but you should be able to tow 2,000 pounds without any issue if you're responsible.

@@NoZenith Good points but the consumer market for towing with either the GTI or the Kona N is limited enough to hold national conventions in a Holiday Inn ballroom.

@@stephenhendricks103 😆 too right! Everybody here needs a pickup truck to even think about going to pick up a grill from Walmart😆

You have reliability data on a new car?

@@GHinWI It's more of a Brand thing, you can ask your mechanic

The internals are different so supposedly the fog lamps would have interfered with the changed cooling paths behind the bumper.

Not really. 90% of people with moonroofs rarely open their moonroof.

@@sabrimo4020 Not true. I use my all the time minus cold weather

@@sabrimo4020 It doesn't need to open for it to serve the purpose. Just need it to exist so you can have natural light come in and make the cabin feel open. Otherwise it feels like you are in a dungeon when you are on long trips - like what Compact SUVs are USED FOR. No one wants to be driving in a dark lit cabin for 7 hours. That's the point of the moonroof it to make it feel spacious and airy. This is why Tesla cars feel so great because you feel like you are driving around in a glass house. Stupid oversight by Hyundai here for their CUV product...

It adds weight

@@anonymous00117 I didn't speak for anyone, but myself. Please troll on somewhere else.

It's a relative comparison rather than an absolute metric.

@@AAutoBuyersGuide got it

While I agree the scale is a great idea, I also have the same issue…it seems to exaggerate differences between fairly similar cars. I wonder if it might be more useful if it covered the full scale off passenger vehicles, e.g., from a Mini Cooper on the left & Chevy suburban on the extreme right.

"PerformaNce PeriwiNkle"

It's a clutch type LSD that locks via an electric motor.

…also needs more headlight modules on the front…4 just doesn’t get it anymore

🤣 goodnight

Get the existing electric Kona + aftermarket coilover?

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I love the blue on the Veloster N, but the freaking blue on this is a whole different kind of blue. Love both of them actually

They actually made the PP blue in other regions. The Sonic Blue color that we get in the US, is also available in other regions and it was intended to become the N color for N-SUVs over the PP Blue. Basic seats have a lot of bolstering, and the intent was for these to focus a bit more on comfort... the EN/VN seats look nice, but don't feel as comfortable as the KN seats. I do agree that they should've added a lighting N logo to them... that was just a cruel move.

Huge difference. The GLA 45 AMG is in the same category as the Porsche Macan GTS/Turbo, not the Kona lol

Considering that KIA is discontinuing the Stinger as a result of slow sales, I'm sure it gives Hyundai pause in terms of a full "N" version of the Sonata as you suggest.

They hellah missed the mark in general, they should've just slapped on some sort of AWD, the masses and females would've eaten it up.

Ummm forever

That's how my buddy got his avalon

Dude, base macan is like $60K... gtfo

@@karmahunden That wasn't the question.