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My sister was on birth control from 16-32. She just got off recently and we had a several hours long conversation about all the wild shit associated with being a woman that she just didn’t know. “I can smell everything.” “I have days where I feel shit about myself for no real reason.” “Eggs for breakfast are disgusting for a few days out of the month.” It’s wild to see her, a grown ass woman, experiencing the full spectrum of womanhood for the first time in her entire life. Because of hormonal birth control.

I experienced this recently, my girlfriend of 3 years broke up with me soon after stopping birth control. No real problems in our relationship, she just said that now she realises what she really wants in a partner. Weird sad stuff - feels very unfair

"interesting, totally unaware of that side of things" My favorite line here. Perfect model of humility in a person of science.

Someone should do a study on the long term effects of birth control and if it effects subsequent children. What long-term birth control use over decades and generations can do to thier offspring.

I haven't been on any form of birth control since 2016. I was on the depo shot for almost two years and it messed up my body so bad. I gained 50lbs in that time period. It took two years to get my body back to normal. I have lost 110lbs in the past three years and use chasteberry to regulate irregular cycles. No hormonal birth control for me, ever. Never again.

I’m ultra sensitive to pretty much anything I ingest. From caffeine to birth control. I tried different hormonal contraceptions in my 20s in the form or the ring, the patch, and 2 different pills. Every single one made me so sick so I just decided I would never take them again. What’s crazy though is the amount of pressure and shame I get from doctors since I’ve elected to not take any birth control. Even in my 30s after having my 1st child the doctor was so rude and basically told me I was going to end up pregnant by accident if I don’t get on birth control. I think the monetary incentive to prescribe birth control is very high and the shame of unplanned pregnancy is too, so it’s literally changing women.

what does the toxic soup in which we live, eat, drink, walk on, breath, do to our health in general?

Sarah Hill's work on this subject is enlightening. As a male it's hard to fully get a grasp on the subject but I know from anecdote growing up Birth Control was viewed the families of girls I dated as a somewhat Risky but perhaps beneficial drug. Now it's just accepted as standard for Women and I think we should step back as a Society and really re-examine the effects of Birth Control because it's most likely far more impactful than simply a magic don't get pregnant pill, there are consequences that come with messing with people's hormones, especially when it's 50% of the population.

I was suicidal on depo provera. The no periods was nice, but I also know that’s not physically healthy either.

I really do think there’s a psychological effect. My ex gf of 3 years was on it and she would have a lot of mood swings and would see a therapist (apart from her personal family problems she was dealing with) cuz she also realized it wasn’t normal. Also one of my coworkers explained to me and my other fellow coworkers about her experience with hormonal birth control (specifically the pill) and admitted that she felt like she was going insane when she was on it and had broken up with her bf due to how bad she was feeling. And after while she was off it, she felt completely better

My wife of 11 years stopped BC about a year ago... she left me.. JK, it was the best thing we decided to do, she feels so much better, balanced and happy. And her sexy drive is over the moon again. 10/10 would recommend 😂

Chris, I really like your podcast and have started listening to it more often recently. The video title is a little bit misleading for this one. Topic indicates the discussion would be about birth control but almost 80% of the video wasn’t related to the title. Didn’t like that.

Women are affected differently with BC or HRT. Don't think it's a one size fits all. My experience completely different from what some are reporting.

Hey Chris, did I just see you at the salt lake airport? If so, didn’t want to bug you but wanted to say that you are killing it and your podcast is now my number 1. Keep it up!

Its sad my mom put me on this growing up instead of kicking my ass for having premarital sex. That shit made me insane off the bat and when i stopped i didnt get my period for like 2 years.

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Straight up love the new ultrawide format!

20 years on birth control, 20 on HRT and they will be prizing my HRT out of my cold, dead hands. Without it i can't sleep, my joints hurt, severe heart palpitations. I have to fight my GP every couple of years to stay on it. BUT - you can't just say "birth control" or "HRT" without saying which type, brand or dosage - all of which vary from country to country. This video, to me, is scare mongering (and I love your stuff). It's like the now debunked study that said HRT increased cancer risk and now it's admitted that it was combined HRT (not oestrogen only) and the study contained too many women who were obese, smoked and drank - all of which increase cancer risk. I suspect (anecdotally, of course) it's more likely that any effect is being magnified by sedentary lifestyles, poor diet, smoking/vaping and alcohol.

Thank you for this discussion. Inately, I knew birth control was a bad thing and never took it. Looking around me, I know I'm better off for listening to my instinct.

The experiences I’ve had with women on vs. off the pills are wildly different

I stopped taking bc back in about 2022. I realised that for a lot of girls who were taking it for long periods of time, namely starting in high school, when they got into adulthood, they were experiencing infertility issues. I hadn’t been taking it very long to begin with, but reading up on the side affects did make me want to stop

Is there anyone other than Sarah Hill that is studying this? I have seen many podcasts on this topic but all of them are quoting Sarah Hill. Not saying she is wrong, but verification would be good.

Chris, I feel you’re genuinely concerned about the affects of birth control on women and how that can turn a hetero relationship upside down. I’m completely impressed you’re interested. For my background, I was told BC would stop my acne so I took it one month and felt very fat on it. What would’ve helped my acne would’ve been DIM. It’s basically greens-salad, cucumber, kale-in a pill and decreases estrogen. What is hard for some guys and girls is to know our genetics we are born with have everything to do with how or why a guy will need to increase or decrease test. or whether a girl will need increased (BC) or decreased (DIM) for her hormone health. I am genetically high in estrogen…I did not know but it would’ve helped to know and then eat daily salads or take DIM-the green salads and DIM help the body eliminate the buildup of estrogen left over from the period cycles. Other women who are flat chested (not me) will have lower estrogen and will be greatly affected by BC-it will make them feel excited for sex until they are off BC and then be way less interested in their guy partner. A natural mid to big bust woman has higher amounts of estrogen (that’s how boobs are naturally made-estrogen) and will be more depressed from even higher amounts if put on BC. Of course watch out for fake boobs, know what the mom of the girl looks like-that’s a good indicator, and fairly muscular girls have a tendency to hide their boob amount with all the muscle going on so that’s tougher to know BUT girls with strong muscles are well balanced in general with the hormones because they enjoy some test. Both males and females benefit in many many ways from having a healthy muscle to fat ratio that lends to great hormone balance and great sex life-hopefully monogamous in each relationship until they find their life partner for better or worse.

i took birth control for 6 months. worst 6 months of my life.

how much of that hormonal birth contol epiphany after stopping treatment or what ever comes with years of declining intrest

So how exactly do preferences change while on, and then off, birth control?

Where’s the full video?

Great topic! Really agree with Chris on the impacts of birth control. Always been against these pills.

Huh?? This conversation between 2 men is wild. Blaming bcp on women deciding to walk away from a relationship 🙄. Women : find a good OB. Estrogen & Progesterone fluctuations change by the hour. BC hijacks those fluctuations and streamlines it. Men: have some self-awareness and accountability.

I live in a European country where girls typically don't take birth control, because common knowledge is that it fucks you up really bad. I have an ex who tried to take it to feel civilized like a western girl, she said she had wild mood swings, would start crying for no reason, it freaked her out and she stopped immediately. I'm not a woman and it's clear they're way more complicated than men, but it's not hard to imagine how taking exogenous hormones for long periods of time would mess you up, or at the very least, be extremely unnatural. Pull out, people :)

How do xenoestrogens impact on this?

Hey chris can you do an interview with a specialist on unnecessary c sections? It's a massive global issues that is contributing to a declining birthrates because it's hard to have pregnancies afterwards.

I wish it wasn't controversial to discuss covid mrna vaccines on podcasts. I'd be super interested to have these biohackers/lifespan experts' opinion on it

Wow how'd I miss this episode. It's different for women to use hormonal birth control, once they're already in 20's (maybe late adolescence) for a limited time, while fully aware of, and watching out for side effects, vs. just being put on it early adolescence and staying on it continuously for 20+ yrs, that's much more insane. Ppl must pay attention to this.

I was never a fan of hormonal birth control. I had to take it for about 8 months because I was having my period twice a month, which made me extremely anemic. During that time, my libido dissappeared, and I felt quite down in my mood, not depressed but sad. I stopped about 3 months ago, after reading in the prospect of the pill that it had risks of breast cancer and ovarian and uterus cancer. I already had cancer, thyroid cancer, and I won't risk it having that crap again. Luckily, for now, I'm on a regular normal period. But yeah, I don't think the risks outweigh the "confort" of taking that crap.

Recent research has some evidence for a casual relationship of hormonal birth control with depression. And a strong relationship with suicide after controlling for some things.

I feel clickbaited

Peter is more precise and exact…Chris likes to conjecture a lot 😊

As to the second question on suncream, Ivor Williams did an interesting video fairly recently on this on his Imagine That channel, which got me thinking as never heard anything stating it might actually be detrimental, so I am definitely looking forward to Dr Attia’s conclusions. I mean I wouldn’t worry too much about the points raised here, it’s not as if there’s nefarious organisations that have openly stated they wish to compromise nations populations by differing means is it. Oh.

While discussing health issues, a responsible podcaster should double check their statements so they don’t misinform their listeners. Squamous Cell Cancer on the skin especially on the face and head CAN metastasize. Even Basal Cell Cancer EXTREMELY rarely but also can metastasize.

Guests: "Let's have the podcast in person so we don't have to look at screens for 3 hours." Chris:

To touch a live wire topic, abortion, there is a similar politically-dismissed physical impact on a woman's body after an abortion. During pregnancy, a woman's body is prepping for breast feeding and for supplying the fetus with what it needs. An abortion cuts this off, and the immediate termination affects the body in many negative ways. Few are willing to acknowledge this or study it for the sake of women being fully informed. An abortion is a sudden termination that isn't the same as a body initiating it's own miscarriage. Women deserve to know.

This video is ridiculous. Geez Chris you really made a masterpiece in the image.

Then add social media and caffeine and sugar they’re consuming on a daily basis

Never been on birth control and never plan to. Cycle tracking has worked just fine for me but where there's Pharma profits to be made, that's exactly where the science will go.

Just my own experience. All the girls I dated that were off the rails all were on BC, the one girl who is logical and pragmatic is not on BC. Just my own experience.

Basically they're saying "It makes them crazy" in a polite way. BTW not a bigot. It is what it is and that's okay until it isn't.

I always bring up t shirt test if dating. Shes gotta get off that poison before i take it seriously. T shirt test is an interesting study

You don't name drop continuously about another doctors work and how great they are when you are talking to another about topics they have researched. He is saying a lot of things other doctors disagree with.

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I don’t understand it all but I will say that after my wife got off birth control, about 7 years into our marriage, I could not keep up with her sex drive. It is pretty crazy and it didn’t let up after a year or two. Obviously the birth control is doing something.

The pill is AWFUL I’ve tried jt several times in my life and can’t ever make it past 2-3 months. I feel so depressed

Not saying that it’s bs, but this whole being on bc and then getting off mid relationship makes women dump guys sure smells like some manosphere broscience. Let’s get some non Sarah hill sources yea?

It's hard to get behind vilifying BC considering it has been responsible for allowing women to have freedoms unimaginable to them even 100 years ago. It's also rather tone deaf for this conversation to be happening in the current political climate around abortion in the US. Does it BC change women's health? Absolutely! But to those who suggest that it should be done away with all together is similar to saying opioids should no longer be used due to the addiction crisis. You cannot speak on this without weighing in on the societal impacts these drugs have.

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Some men ask, What happened to woman's view of relationships and marriage, back in the 60's? Dr Sarah Hill explains it on Spotify "How the Pill changes Everything: Your brain on birth control." Very profound.

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The answer is nothing significant.

Defund the government, stop paying tax Thank you

If I had any plan to date/marry/have children, I (25F) probably would’ve tried to quick birth control a year+ ago. But the side effects of only menstruating every few months gives me no incentive to stop.

The selfishness of the men in the comments is unbelievable

Chris, stop. Please. You have no business talking about this. You don’t have to jump on every recent trend in heterodox online world.

Why are men talking about this?

Hormonal birth control should be immediately outlawed especially with the absolute abundance of Alternative forms of birth control available on the market.

Women need to do research on what is being prescribed. The best method is the pill. Everything else is a NO GO. I’ve done the pill since I was 18 and now I’m 43. I am fine. I’ve never flipped the switch and I don’t have babies from random dudes, don’t have babies at all by choice. I don’t take advantage of men. Let not give women excuses for poor behavior. Hormones are something that is always changing and we will never master them as women. We just have to keep ourselves grateful and in a positive mindset.

There's a theory that vvomen prefer more masculine, fun, and aggressive guys when not on BC. When on, it switches to a much more transactional relationship. They look for safe provisioners. That's why guys that get with single moms often realize in very harsh ways they are just a human ATM, and baby daddy is a lot of times a criminal, former athlete, and generally a lot more masculine than they are. They find a lot of ways to cope. A lot of phrases to cope. Sad, really.

Hormonal birth control has been around for over 50 years,and multiple generations.

I had 2 breaks from reality when I stopped birth control. I thought the CIA was following me.

It's crazy how it can change a woman's attraction towards her partner, imagine getting married, she comes off of it to have kids and she's like "I feel nothing for you", insane!

For some it's increasing aggression and hampering critical thinking. It's already been observed that some brands of birth control can render women increasingly irritable and prone to outbursts. In regards to their organs, it is highly likely to increase organ failure due to the upsurge of hormones induced by certain birth control. This is similar to the long term usage of hormonal blockers and meds used by transgender individuals due to the artificial and foreign hormones/chemicals being introduced to the body. In regards to children, they have an increased rate of birth defects, including mental disorders, increased likelihood of disabilities and immunodeficiency and hormonal imbalance. The usage of birth control for extensive periods of time alter children generation to generation, causing genetic mutations including the increased likelihood of cancers, lower muscle/bone density, depression, ADHD, aggressions, mental retardations, gender dysphoria, and autoimmune disorders. Here's another thing, of your girlfriend/wife is attracted to you while being on the birth control, the moment she stops using birth control, her hormones are shifted back to her normal "standards", meaning she will most likely lose interest in you, because you no longer match her standards set by the birth control as opposed to her own predetermined "type".

It only affects 20% of women on birth control

That's how deeply hormones effect thoughts, how subtly and biologically manipulable that they are. And this is why I am a proponent of condom culture; that is condoms as the main form of birth control and protection against STDs

Brave new world shit

What brains 😂

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