The Creature From Midnight Mass Explained

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Cogan Lollins

Cogan Lollins

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Timestamps
0:00 How the vampire came to Crockett
2:56 Could it be an Angel?
5:01 Fallen Angels
7:10 drinking the creatures blood
9:34 what did it want?
12:30 Angel or Vampire?
13:02 other theories
14:47 final thoughts and outro

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@divisionbell143
@divisionbell143 Жыл бұрын
A vampire that a senile old priest convinced himself was an angel because “it saved him”. Felt pretty straightforward.
@roshunepp
@roshunepp Жыл бұрын
I'm with you. It's very straightforward and there's no question about it. He had dementia and called it an angel. Vampires are intelligent; so when it heard angel it made Pruitt its thrall/servant. Very straightforward.
@notsure5840
@notsure5840 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, at no time in the show does anyone compare the "angel" to a vampire, so it's very possible the concept of a vampire doesn't exist in the world of midnight mass. Yes, Pruitt could be thought to be a thrall if we use vampire tropes from outside of the show, but I think there is room for speculation.
@cralo5431
@cralo5431 Жыл бұрын
Yes lol I saw the title of the video and was like “wuuuuuuuuut???”
@jwoz8517
@jwoz8517 Жыл бұрын
But why the vampire give him his blood? to control him?
@CrazyLinguiniLegs
@CrazyLinguiniLegs Жыл бұрын
@@jwoz8517 the vampire was stuck in a crypt in the desert for untold years and was weak from lack of feeding. It restored the priest so that he could arrange for boxing it up and setting it up somewhere safe where it could feed on others and grow stronger.
@HermaeusM
@HermaeusM Жыл бұрын
When the Mother says to the pastors assistant “God loves my son just as much as he loves you. Why does that make you so angry?” THAT’S what so many people need to hear. This show was a masterpiece of metaphors.
@dadcomeback1470
@dadcomeback1470 Жыл бұрын
Whoever the pastors assistant is did an amazing job of acting I she made my blood boil like few actors have been able to do
@Nutterbutter123
@Nutterbutter123 Жыл бұрын
@@dadcomeback1470 rip doggy 😔 beautiful cane corso
@nightwalkYEG
@nightwalkYEG Жыл бұрын
That is not a metaphor
@dadcomeback1470
@dadcomeback1470 Жыл бұрын
@@Nutterbutter123 her killing that dog set my hate in stone for that character
@michaeliv284
@michaeliv284 Жыл бұрын
Mrs Carmondy from The Mist
@jakewoodisgood1
@jakewoodisgood1 Жыл бұрын
Riley, and his Parents were able to refrain themselves from drinking blood because they have been practicing sobriety for what Riley did. Hence why his younger brother did not drink with his buddies in the uppards in the first episode. They have learned not to give Into cravings and control themselves. Very good Writing there for sure!
@tdbla98
@tdbla98 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even think about that and I was a few months into my sobriety when this show came out! Crazy to look back and see things that I didn't notice before. Such a great show, and the way the "angel" comes into the church with robes on was fucking creepy to me. I'm not very religious but I did grow up in church and with religion around me. Just not super into it and my mom and I stopped going after a couple bad experiences. But gave me enough knowledge to get me creeped out when watching this show! I may not believe in the exact Abrahamic god/prophets in the form they're spoken of in the Bible. But this show gave me the creeps enough to remind me we don't know everything that we want to know or should
@Dubya3030
@Dubya3030 Жыл бұрын
Hey great catch there.
@leonelgalan9431
@leonelgalan9431 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was like strength of character or strong Wills that prevented them to go berserk. Like the Flynn parents, Mrs.Gunning and Ali unlike everyone they didn't give in to the urge to kill and drink. Kinda like Dracula Untold how Vlad had the will to not give in to the thirst/hunger, also stated by his maker.
@bigguy8818
@bigguy8818 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s more will power than sobriety, because Riley had been sober but still tried to attack Bev. Also Ali didn’t attack anyone either. I’m also pretty sure we see Ed Flynn taking a bottled beer out of the fridge in one episode so maybe he still drinks, although it could’ve been soda.
@incidentlyaniguana2193
@incidentlyaniguana2193 10 ай бұрын
@@bigguy8818 I think it's more about willpower and discipline than sobriety. Ali was a practicing Muslim and was raised with discipline and a strong moral compass by his father.
@overlord6815
@overlord6815 Жыл бұрын
I mean, a Vampire trapped in the middle of a desert sounds like it's imprisoned, no blood to consume and too much sunlight to escape. The fallen angel origin theory makes sense.
@gigabuck9091
@gigabuck9091 Жыл бұрын
It could be very well be Jesus christ. the creature was not in chains, it was trapped in what could be a burial chamber.
@simplyizustic6122
@simplyizustic6122 Жыл бұрын
After the day always comes the night
@tonoornottono
@tonoornottono Жыл бұрын
he was trapped… underground. no sun. i don’t see how him being an angel has anything to do with this detail.
@jamesrobertson3853
@jamesrobertson3853 Жыл бұрын
There's a book which mentioned a creature like this it held a man up against a wall the man thought he would die from being choked it told the man a religion the man claimed . the year was 610 bce That man became the prophet of that religion his male followers are often named after him LOOK INTO IT
@louiscypher4186
@louiscypher4186 Жыл бұрын
@@tonoornottono It's one of the more heavy religious themes Book of Enoch was an early Christian text but was not given offical canonisation by the catholic church so fell into obscurity, there's only like 3 small orthodox churches that still use it. In it fallen angels drink blood and corrupt men. The Angel Michael sends the rebel angels down to Tartarus which is described as a "deep dark place" and they are forbidden to walk in the light. It also hits upon the references the new testament with Jesus being tempted by the devil in the desert to feed. Jesus refused, the priest in the show gave in to temptation.
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, the worst and most violent parts of the show aren't because of the vampire. It was Bev who poisoned that dog, it was Bev who decided that a mass murder suicide was the way to go. The vampire just went along with it.
@conormurphy4328
@conormurphy4328 8 ай бұрын
“This crazy lady has some good ideas”
@Lilmanskis
@Lilmanskis 6 ай бұрын
That’s how Lucifer works he makes it so you make the decision and he doesn’t take the blame for your actions. It’s his duty to bring truth to the light and he’s seeing who really is a servant of good or a servant of evil then he punishes you for betraying God.
@TtotheCizzel
@TtotheCizzel 6 ай бұрын
Yeah she made the vampire look like an angel
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 6 ай бұрын
@@TtotheCizzel She made it a fucking little dress!
@santiagosancho2317
@santiagosancho2317 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I think the Angel should have been scared of Bev. Like the dude was turning people into monsters, but was a monster all along, and just for the sake of it
@bard8903
@bard8903 Жыл бұрын
as someone who reads a lot about abrahamic religions, i never actually seen it as a vampire, i just assumed that it was a fallen angel (demon) from the begining and the whole sun weakness and blood drinking are just symptoms of him being a literal mockery of regular angel -it is said in ancient jewish texts that angels were casted down into great, dark caves uder ground (the cave where we meet him) -it is said that they are banished from the light and "may they never see the sun again" (they die from light) -it is said that they are a mockery of god (they literally mock the resurrecton of christ by reviving people as monsters and mock the eucharist by drinking their own corrupted blood instead of the blood of christ, the demon in the show also chooses to use a man of faith as his tool to kill a whole flock of his followers) -it is said that they are deceiving (literally tricks an entire town of people into commiting suicide) Vampires are kinda just an extension of what christians would call a demon if you think about it that way (but not entirely ofc, the original and earliest tales of vampires from slavic mythology (wąpierz) describe that vampires were once humans who were cursed during life, but you get what i mean)
@JoelPit
@JoelPit Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for these ancient Jewish text your talking about. I to study religion I would love to read more.
@VladimirEnd
@VladimirEnd Жыл бұрын
After the video and your comment I am sure this is a fallen angel and he makes the vampires, his cursed offspring.
@wintertrooper7918
@wintertrooper7918 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps it is a fallen angel that is also a vampire but that it is the progenitor of vampires and their earliest legends
@JoelPit
@JoelPit Жыл бұрын
@@bard8903 you don't have a name for these writings I read all types of religion papers a name helps me find the info with having to get approval from the Vatican and most of the info I'm researching they don't let see the light of day
@pIayingwithmahwii
@pIayingwithmahwii Жыл бұрын
@@wintertrooper7918 i like to think of it as a demon, a fallen angel, that took bodily form so that it could infect humans with vampirism. it would probably be difficult to "infect" a human as an incorporeal spirit, so it had to take a "human" form (in mockery of jesus) to spread its curse.
@riyarajan5817
@riyarajan5817 6 ай бұрын
Man, Mike Flanagan is such a criminally underrated director.
@FernStone
@FernStone Жыл бұрын
I've been grieving a lot recently , this moments where they spoke about death in this show truly helped me. AMAZING show .
@gracimh1780
@gracimh1780 Жыл бұрын
DUDE ME TOO I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER
@123456donnell
@123456donnell Жыл бұрын
Why are you telling us. Keep it to yourself weirdo’s
@gracimh1780
@gracimh1780 Жыл бұрын
@@123456donnell because this is the comment section? Where people talk about the subject matter of the video and how it influenced them?
@bigbobabc123
@bigbobabc123 11 ай бұрын
How did it make you feel better? It basically said there’s no after life and when you die you cease to exist
@pointfrogg
@pointfrogg 7 ай бұрын
@@bigbobabc123 For some of us that's a peaceful thought not a scary one. In a way it forces you to believe your life is truly worth living, because what else is there for you but it?
@mightymochi6320
@mightymochi6320 Жыл бұрын
This show was a gem. Highly underrated.
@hunterklugh5067
@hunterklugh5067 Жыл бұрын
sadly its discontinued
@TheFreshTrumpet
@TheFreshTrumpet Жыл бұрын
@@hunterklugh5067 well it’s pretty much a limited series within a larger set of projects by the creator. Same with its predecessors Hill House and Bly Manor (also excellent works), and it’s followed by The Midnight Club which will be released in October. Sign me up to be the first viewer of that one lol
@SKYJAYDEN
@SKYJAYDEN Жыл бұрын
@@hunterklugh5067 no it's just a limited series
@codranine6054
@codranine6054 Жыл бұрын
Yea I enjoyed it.
@zedovski
@zedovski 6 ай бұрын
It was a gem in the same line as The Messiah, that was also a thought provoking show, and also discontinued only after one season.
@zakkmylde1712
@zakkmylde1712 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised nobody else tossed this option out there, from what I've seen at least, but a cave in the Middle Eastern desert and seemingly granting wishes but enacting a price sounds more like a D'jinn than a vampire or fallen angel. Especially when taken into consideration that some D'jinn were good, others bad and some in a gray area.
@princeali4411
@princeali4411 Жыл бұрын
A Jinn Is a very good possibility. Especially since it is Canon to Middle Eastern and Abrahamic lore.
@phoqueme
@phoqueme Жыл бұрын
It was my thought as well. Like a combination of the two showcasing how these myths probably originated from different perceptions of the same creature
@Twulfbynight
@Twulfbynight Жыл бұрын
Probably. In supernatural the djinn were reimagined as vampiric. Could be the reverse here that vampires are a type of djinn
@princeali4411
@princeali4411 Жыл бұрын
@@Twulfbynight Though Djinn are creatures made of fire in Islamic and Arabic mythology, so the sunlight thing might not work... i could be wrong since there isn't much else to go off of from mythology. So it's open to interpretation.
@CordellPotts
@CordellPotts Жыл бұрын
Some "jin" were fallen angels.
@mikigordon9852
@mikigordon9852 Жыл бұрын
Before watching midnight mass I had been reading about the nephalim from the book of Enoch. The children of angels and human women, they were giants who drank blood and devoured everything in their path, including eventually each other from their hunger. I think that's what the "angel" was
@gracieisbored9191
@gracieisbored9191 3 ай бұрын
that makes sense. it would also give another good explanation or why erin's baby disappeared: it wasn't an "angel" baby, so the blood simply did away with it, seeing it as a foreign parasite.
@Boydem274
@Boydem274 2 ай бұрын
Yes perfect example,
@kiryukazuma8089
@kiryukazuma8089 Жыл бұрын
I could imagine the “angel” as a fallen angel. Something that was once an angel who was struck down into something that’d have to hide from the light and feed on the beings it could’ve hated. Kinda like how some stories, Satan hated humanity getting the love of God, and therefore fully decided to rebel then.
@brettsmith5903
@brettsmith5903 Жыл бұрын
Nephilim is what their called
@Serpentking789
@Serpentking789 Жыл бұрын
@@brettsmith5903 Nah, Nephilim are the offspring of (Fallen?) Angels and humans, born after "the Sons of God laid with the daughters of Men" and all that.
@funnelingspace9268
@funnelingspace9268 Жыл бұрын
Fallen angels are literally demons, I'm pretty sure that's what the word demon means anyway
@umatveg
@umatveg Жыл бұрын
@@Serpentking789 This character can very well be a Nephilim. Demons are spirits and don't have a physical body, much less blood.
@umatveg
@umatveg Жыл бұрын
It is surely not a demon(fallen angel) because they are spirits and hence have no physical body. If we were to make something up, it could be a Nephilim. But if we were to be fully Christian, this monster would be a lab product or a hominid subspecies gone wrong due to evolution.
@roderick8167
@roderick8167 Жыл бұрын
I've always believed and still believe 100% that this thing is a Vampire, Monsignor Pruitt just has his beliefs so strongly that he thinks this creature is a angel when it clearly has all the call signs of being a vampire and the creature used Pruitt's beliefs against him to fool him into thinking he was a good angel of the lord when it's actually a blood drinking demon, but also I would find it more interesting if this creature was some kind of demonic angel of some kind that would be very different
@danny_decheeto8300
@danny_decheeto8300 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it is 100% a vampire
@raxevonapbwd8769
@raxevonapbwd8769 Жыл бұрын
Yeah its a vampire that probably created the Christian Faith
@jamesmcclaren9759
@jamesmcclaren9759 Жыл бұрын
My theory: It’s a cursed/fallen Angel, perhaps from the Biblical cities of Sodom and Gomorrah event like the story in Guillermo Del Toros “The Strain” depicts. Their human victims infected by their curse burn in the Sun and other such creations of Gods grace they’ve fell short of. Check out the origin of the strigoi on YT it pretty much clicks right in. Wild
@eyalreiss294
@eyalreiss294 Жыл бұрын
Demons are fallen angel so it could of been the latter
@garrettelgin4742
@garrettelgin4742 Жыл бұрын
“Demonic angel” that’s just called a demon.
@Kaijutopia
@Kaijutopia Жыл бұрын
My two-cents: The Creature is a vampire that inspired the myth of angels. Monsignor Pruitt discovered the Creature in ruins buried beneath the sands of Jerusalem, where it could've been trapped for centuries. The Creature spared Pruitt only after it heard his prayers, which seems to imply it knew of Pruitt's Christian faith. I'd further speculate it not only knew about Christendom but also played a hand in its founding. The Creature weaponized Monsignor Pruitt's faith as it's likely done many times before. Pruitt was just its most recent disciple (and hopefully last).
@brumexclusives-oc6be
@brumexclusives-oc6be Жыл бұрын
I don't know why but if it knew of the Christian faith would it be a stretch assume, this is Judas? His eternal punishment for betraying god and instead of dying he became that.
@Wonderwhoopin
@Wonderwhoopin Жыл бұрын
The show went way over your head
@methatguy5996
@methatguy5996 Жыл бұрын
@@Wonderwhoopin i hate people like you, unless you have proof that the writer said otherwise you're just being a know it all. Whats your take on the show? Tell me so i can call it stupid no matter what it is.
@axe863
@axe863 Жыл бұрын
Kind of a stretch given that no one would think an Angel from Heaven literally burns in sunlight. Everything else could be plausible but that is clearly a problem.
@coganLollins
@coganLollins Жыл бұрын
I agree, seems like the most likely scenario
@patmcsperin1484
@patmcsperin1484 Жыл бұрын
In the show it was made clear that this wasn’t just an ordinary cave but some kind of ancient structure, likely a temple or some kind of prison perhaps as when he’s inside it you can definitely make out that it’s much bigger than the initial room he is in, it has vaulted ceilings and there were a few hallways that stretched into the darkness and went around corners. He mentioned early many ancient ruins had been uncovered by the recent storms, I’m thinking this was a ruin from the time of the ancient Assyrians or something even older, as many of their deities and what we would even call demons were pictured with wings of a sort. Perhaps this was one of them that they could not kill and so had to imprison it somehow so they built the tomb to contain it.
@dranzerjetli5126
@dranzerjetli5126 Жыл бұрын
Angels were terrifying to look at. They had to request people to not be afraid of them
@ConorChaos
@ConorChaos Жыл бұрын
It's interesting that a curse like vampirism is given a scientific explanation in Midnight Mass, which kinda makes sense to a layman. Of course, if there was a God and it decided to curse someone then it would just be an insanely advanced virus or something that wouldn't make sense to us which I find interesting and would have endless possibilities in fiction. If someone from 2000 years ago saw us in our world today, they may consider us to be of some higher power. Not having to push doors to open them, flying without wings etc. I wish Midnight Mass had a prequel or sequel. Mike Flanagan is on a roll right now.
@MaxGideonActor
@MaxGideonActor Жыл бұрын
Far advanced science will always appear to the ignorant as magic until the mind can learn its secrets.
@triplemoyagames4195
@triplemoyagames4195 Жыл бұрын
I mean going off the Christian discipline, God has been quite creative but not too complex. Like with the plagues of egypt, made it rain Sulfur as well. On an individual scale, he has just given someone severe bad luck, made someone think they're a cow if I am not mistaken. When choosing to curse someone, he doesn't make it complex, but effective. So the likely option would be to get them bit by a black mamba or somth. Or perhaps they have illness incurable in their region
@thetechlibrarian
@thetechlibrarian Жыл бұрын
Vampires with a scientific explanation is The Strain, probably one of the best depiction’s of vampires ever.
@crystalbluepartain3434
@crystalbluepartain3434 Жыл бұрын
it makes sense that god would create things that work inside the lines of what we believe to be the laws of nature he would have created said laws himself. (which is why creation very well could have followed what the big bang science suggests potentially just in super speed time lasp to explain the 7 days stuff). so i think it makes alot of sense that seemingly super natural beings could be natural just from parts of nature humans are rare to be exposed to.
@triplemoyagames4195
@triplemoyagames4195 Жыл бұрын
@@crystalbluepartain3434 I mean in the Bible, for the most part, God has kept it within the the rules of nature etc
@stephendean2896
@stephendean2896 Жыл бұрын
I accidentally stumbled across this series and then could not stop watching for 8 straight hours. It is one the best vampire shows I have ever seen but it’s so much more than just about vampires. It is more to do with human nature than anything else
@xandara75
@xandara75 11 ай бұрын
And here was me thinking Vampirism (and its thirst) was always the subject of interpretation of human nature. (The undead in general are.)
@susanyee1
@susanyee1 Жыл бұрын
I loved this show. The soliloquy at the final scene, where Erin describes her view of life and death, brought me to tears. It was so vast and encompassing, far more open than any one religion. I even wrote it down. The creature reminded me of the winged creatures in the film, Jeruzalem.
@tonymaxwellhatt1175
@tonymaxwellhatt1175 Жыл бұрын
@susanyee1 My old school was Catholic. Looking back it was full of strange creepy teachers, and a resident nun, who wore a huge black outfit that made her looked like she was floating along the buildings corridors. The headmaster was on another level of scary. He looked exactly like this vampire, seriously he wore a black robe that had wings attached from his armpits to his waists. He was a frigging vampire bat, and a menacing attitude to match.
@susanyee1
@susanyee1 Жыл бұрын
@@tonymaxwellhatt1175 Yikes! Was it a creepy old building, too?
@MrEnjoivolcom1
@MrEnjoivolcom1 Жыл бұрын
Guillermo Del Toro's THE STRAIN has the seven original vampires, known as The Ancients, as manifesting from the original angel who was killed and torn into seven individual pieces for the unforgivable crime of killing his angel brother so to drink his blood (which was silver, so in life silver hurts them). They, The Ancients, must also maintain and keep the dirt/soil from which they landed after being torn apart and cast down. They also cannot cross over moving water by themselves. We see this in the show as The Master's coffin box is filled with his dirt and loaded into a van to be driven across the bridge to be taken into Manhattan (which is an island). Kudos to you for souring them! Love your channel. ❤️
@mismismism
@mismismism Жыл бұрын
To me, it seemed implied that it was a vampire and arguably, the entire belief system was based on the manipulation of the vampire(s), with them misinterpreting the things it could do as miracles. The vampire clearly recognized that Monsignor was religious and kept him alive to try and reestablish the fanatical religion around itself, like it instantly went along with it all implying it's happened before but the show had no indication that a god even existed or had anything to do with it as they explained what the vampire was doing to the people. I don't think it was an angel in the religious sense, it doesn't do anything the show doesn't explain as scientific or akin to a virus or parasite. I think the entire premise is basically the snowball effect of fanatic belief and blind faith starting from the Monsignor and spreading just like the vampire virus not letting people see reality or how unbelievably hypocritical and evil they had become.
@triplemoyagames4195
@triplemoyagames4195 Жыл бұрын
I get what you're saying, but there is often a fallacy that Science is supposed to be seperate from Religion. Just because we understand doesn't eliminate religious elements. I do agree that people may have run with the wrong idea about them
@mismismism
@mismismism Жыл бұрын
@@triplemoyagames4195 I'm saying, in the context of the show, the entire premise kind of revolves around the idea that everyone involved is dictating everything based on god but there is no evidence of anything godly or miraculous happening. Their blind faith let's them just make up a reason why anything they can't explain or any evil act they do is justified when we see that actually, it's just manipulation and self delusion caused by a thing that they are showing us is not a god, it's basically just a predatory animal with their beliefs being put onto it because it "looks like an angel" when no one actually even knows what an angel would look like, especially biblical angels. The whole show is constantly pushing the fact that everything is screwed up because these people are so invested that they are blinding themselves to the facts. It actually being an angel or magical in some way, would undermine the whole point of the series. No one can say angels do or don't exist but this thing is not an angel and it should always be questioned.
@triplemoyagames4195
@triplemoyagames4195 Жыл бұрын
@@mismismism That would make more sense. In the context of tthe setting of the story. As I am sure if this creature's existence got out, it would be questioned 100% by the religious community lol
@mismismism
@mismismism Жыл бұрын
@@triplemoyagames4195 I just mean within the context of the show, it seemed like they were making it like the town was just accepting everything as miracles and not questioning while we as the audience were seeing the full picture and seeing that the thing was basically just a predatory beast witha disease or parasite, kinda like that parasite that lives in cats, infects mice and makes them not scared of cats so they get eaten. If the vampire is actually an angel then it kinda breaks the whole premise. I just don't want it mistaken as me saying god or angels aren't a thing in that universe or dragging religion, it's just my opinion for this concept because it's making a point against blind faith and extremism, not religion in general.
@amberlaughlin3518
@amberlaughlin3518 Жыл бұрын
Well consumption of blood does make vampires younger and younger looking. That's a fact. So if it can do that for them and it does, when they consume blood, Clearly the blood has miraculous powers in it for them and others.jesus who IS a vampire. Did these same miracles on people and I would bet just as they show in this movie. By having the church attendees consuming vampire blood on a regular basis. And Walla! There u go.
@delinquentgamer0748
@delinquentgamer0748 Жыл бұрын
I agree: it's a Fallen Angel. It lived without blood in the cave since it was immortal and only fed because it wanted, not needed to. The townspeople are the ones who become vampire, after they die while having drank the blood of the angel
@carljensen333
@carljensen333 Жыл бұрын
Fallen angel was my impression throughout, but I was struck by its limitations and how it doesn’t vibe with the War in Heaven. The first problem is that it wasn’t physically impressive and was very susceptible to physical harm, seeming mundane despite it’s longevity. Maybe it was of a species older than humanity with only a few remnants left. Maybe it was a fallen angel that was extremely weak after long imprisonment and he was setting the town up to drain them after trapping them there as easy pickings after the curse. I wish it were better explained. Secondly, fallen angels were sent to Hell in huge numbers, and after the Nephilim debacle and flood, God restricted all interactions in the mortal world. A fallen angel shouldn’t be lingering in some cave, as both God and Satan would have taken note. After consideration it makes more scriptural sense that the “angel” could have been a Nephilim that survived the flood within the cave and had been there since, or maybe Cain and the curse is his mark. I’m left uncertain. It’s really too bad the creators won’t expand on the show. I’m a horror aficionado and this production touched all of the right bases. I just wish I understood it.
@arx3516
@arx3516 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the millennia long imprisonment really messed him up, the isolation deteriorated his mind making him almost a feral beast, and the lack of nourishment made him unable to access even a fraction of his actual power. Probably if he didn't soend the last 2 millennia rotting in a necropolis he would be similar in abilities to the vampires from Ann Rice's chronicles of the vampires.
@iGame3D
@iGame3D Жыл бұрын
All of that relies on your own head canon. Show is someone else's head canon.
@mechanicalbreathing589
@mechanicalbreathing589 Жыл бұрын
i somewhat agree, but maybe angels being cast out of heaven lose a magnitude of it's power not being on God's side anymore. Keep in mind, Angels can walk both at night and in day, and this one cant, meaning it possesses powers much greater than this creature. Might explain why it seems weaker than what the bible interpretation of angels are like.
@denucci66
@denucci66 6 ай бұрын
Not all fallen angels were warriors who fought, some waited to see who won and they were thrown out just the same as they were cowards
@petekwando
@petekwando Жыл бұрын
I think you are spot on, and figured much the same when I saw the show: the creature design being so close to the imagery of fallen angels, the fact that it was found in the Holy Land, how it responded to the word angel and was seemingly into wearing the vestments and appearing to the congregation, etc. It seems more thematically consistent if it is a fallen angel, rather than "just" a vampire. But as you noted, the origin of vampires varies greatly from story to story, so maybe the real answer is: it's both. As for the doctor's porphyria explanation, I figured that was just our limited science grasping at the tiniest fraction of the truth. I mean, who is to say that angels - or what our civilization came to call angels - don't have some sort of recognizable cellular structure, even if the specifics are far beyond our understanding? I know not everybody cares for that sort of blurred line between science and the supernatural, but I really liked that aspect of the story.
@davidhanson4909
@davidhanson4909 Жыл бұрын
Here's a theory: the creature is Lazarus. Maybe once J.C. did his thing, he came back...different. The cave was actually his original tomb, perhaps.
@Petaurista13
@Petaurista13 Жыл бұрын
so you suggest it wasn't miracle but necromancy?
@MaxGideonActor
@MaxGideonActor Жыл бұрын
Maybe it is Lazarus and Jesus brought him back from the dead because J.C. was a vampire?
@Callumdevan17
@Callumdevan17 Жыл бұрын
Great theory, I was thinking that myself, I made a comment a few minutes ago with similar.
@mrunderhill40
@mrunderhill40 Жыл бұрын
No.
@jimmyboy131
@jimmyboy131 Жыл бұрын
That doesn't fit the biblical narrative of resurrections. When you are resurrected you come back exactly who you are/were, not something different or "other". So any ideas that Lazarus came back as a vampire is just made up, not based on anything else.
@CrawfordPrime
@CrawfordPrime Жыл бұрын
Midnight Mass was a great change of pace and I thought this is one of the best vampire stories that isn’t so cliche but makes u think about it after. It has some major Stephen King vibes too. I’m pretty convinced now that this creature is indeed a fallen angel, perhaps the last one. I mean what if there was another one that turned Dracula or perhaps was turned by a follower of this very same angel that had lived for centuries. Might be a cool prequel idea
@adrianramirez159753
@adrianramirez159753 Жыл бұрын
I really feel like mike Flanagan has made some sort of comment pointing to Stephen king and his work either being an influence if not then maybe just something he enjoyed . At any rate , his three Netflix series consistently has SK vibes and this one is no different.
@LCsongor98
@LCsongor98 Жыл бұрын
Great video! One thing I would disagree with is that the Angel was only enjoying the blood. I think it was part of its punishment: being overwhelmed by the lust for blood so much, it is not bothered with people shooting at him or even cutting his wings. Succumbing to one of the seven deadly sins is certainly a fitting punishment for an angel which driven by its own ego and selfishness challenged God.
@dougo18071
@dougo18071 Жыл бұрын
What I never understood is why the vampire in midnight mass wanted to make so many more vampires. That's more competition for food for the original vampire. I could see it wanting a few more vampires but not a whole town full. It would be difficult to control that many vampires. That also puts him at higher risk for the rest of the world to know of his existence if some of the other vampires are discovered. Once his existence is discovered he could be hunted.
@Flipitmixit
@Flipitmixit Жыл бұрын
To be honest I think this vampire was just a force of nature poisoning anything in his wake not really caring about the consequences. This man was biting on erins neck while she was clipping his wings and he just let it happen. This vampire is actually an idiot who just Does things and not the master manipulator some people think. Paul and Bev were the manipulators
@thomascoolidge2161
@thomascoolidge2161 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it an impulse control of the vampire virus.. it adds a desire and removes inhibitions to control that desire.
@MrRotesy
@MrRotesy Жыл бұрын
@@Flipitmixit i think paul was more a true believer than an malicious manipulator, he wanted everyone to be healthy again and actually care for them. Bev on the other hand was an angry lady who was mad that god could love anyone who wasnt her.
@jonathancampbell5231
@jonathancampbell5231 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, there are lots of stories where vampires want to make a whole bunch of other vampires (or even turn the entire human race into vampires) and they don't make much sense for those same reasons either. At least this one is "only" transforming a town.
@RayValdezPhotography
@RayValdezPhotography Жыл бұрын
it didnt. it ate cats for the majority of the series. It was Bev and Pruitt that want all the followers and crap.
@laysrightdimple3442
@laysrightdimple3442 Жыл бұрын
Two things I'd like to add 1) The blood didn't make father Paul convulse, it was because he ingested rat poison. 2) About how it comunicates and if it influences people, it is mentioned a couple of times that those that are fully changed hear the angel's voice inside their head giving them instructions and they are encouraged to obey My own personal take, I believe it was a vampire, the priest was senile and he made sense of what he saw based on his belief as did the islanders .
@theguileraven7014
@theguileraven7014 Жыл бұрын
Wait, when did he ingest rat poison? Cus if that’s true, then that completely changes a LOT of the story.
@jenniferortiztoro220
@jenniferortiztoro220 Жыл бұрын
@@theguileraven7014 He was poisoned by Bev that is how he die, he then resurrected as a vampire.
@theguileraven7014
@theguileraven7014 Жыл бұрын
@@jenniferortiztoro220 When was this actually shown? Why would Bev poison him? She was his primary follower at the time?
@dylan351321
@dylan351321 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. What I took away from the show was the twisting of one’s faith. The vampire fit nicely into his beliefs and used them against him. Fantastic show.
@SjofnBM1989
@SjofnBM1989 Жыл бұрын
@@theguileraven7014 it doesn't change ANY of the story YOU just misinterpreted the story to begin with.
@tychoinshadows
@tychoinshadows Жыл бұрын
I think the show itself ultimately doesn't care what the "angel" is. It cares about individual people coming to terms with death, faith and their place in the world. The creature works equally well as an unknown species or mutant as it does as a clever vampire or fallen angel. It never tells us its perspective, we only have speculation from human characters, which makes the creature all the more mysterious, terrifying and, in some senses, horribly divine. The creature seems very cunning, it can choose its prey, it may be able to communicate mentally, it can certainly understand and use gestures and echo voices. It may have manipulated the priest, it certainly abetted him and was angry when he was harmed. It also shows animalistic behaviours. It shrieks when angry, it does not contain its hungers even when they arouse suspicion, crucially it becomes so absorbed in feeding that it can be shot or stabbed and hardly notices or cares. If the creature does burn up in the sun, it is because instincts blinded it to the harm Erin was inflicting on it. Fire, the bane of beasts, does hurt or frighten it though. This suggests a different species enthralled to instinct as much as to intelligence. But could also mean a vampire so ancient that it has lost human thought patterns or even common sense. This doesn't sound much like a demon or fallen angel, who are often depicted as being at least as wise and intelligent as humans. But perhaps even an angel could be altered by a curse over time. It might also be alien to us because angels and demons simply aren't human. The lack of interest in outside interference when feeding might possibly be explained as sheer arrogance - it doesn't think anyone can really harm it. Again, I think the very fact that multiple conclusions could be drawn about the creature goes to the heart of the show, which presents multiple views on life, death and the afterlife. (Though I think the writers / show-runners probably favour Erin's point of view.)
@sleepdeprived7780
@sleepdeprived7780 6 ай бұрын
I’m a Christian and whether you’re religious or not, this is an AMAZING SHOW. the quality, writing, the ideas and the dialogue all so good. Mike Flanagan does not miss.
@zackearl3200
@zackearl3200 4 ай бұрын
same here bro. This show actually is a great example of Faith based Horror
@cosmo_clover_creek
@cosmo_clover_creek Ай бұрын
while i am not anymore, I used to be religious, and oh my god religious horror chills me to my core. it freaks me out more than ANYTHING
@adamfowler350
@adamfowler350 Жыл бұрын
The most interesting thing about this vampire was the feeling that he needed Pruitt as much as Pruitt needed him...This creature may have not fed in centuries until Pruitt wandered in, who knows? I loved this dynamic. Like why would this creature only follow Pruitt back across the world? For whatever motive, he needed Pruitt.
@Leo_Zackular_Art
@Leo_Zackular_Art Жыл бұрын
The pacing and mystery of this series was one of my favorites, and some of the acting is phenomenal, tear jerking
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 Жыл бұрын
A vampire for sure. It used the father’s religion against him and that was the beauty of his plan.
@gwc6953
@gwc6953 Жыл бұрын
I mean fallen angel makes more sense. But also religion being a organization has basically turned it into a religion of vampires who suck the hope out of others for the power and life of "god" not really vampires in this show but like the idea of them or like a succubus and incubus thing
@0912sooli
@0912sooli Жыл бұрын
@@gwc6953 thats how I took it. Or maybe that this creature was living and some religious folks took it as a representation of an angel on Earth
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 Жыл бұрын
@@gwc6953 maybe it could be a fallen angel. But its definitely nothing holy. I also wouldnt say it makes more sense because there is no proof angels even exist in the world of midnight mass.
@danny_decheeto8300
@danny_decheeto8300 Жыл бұрын
Yeah nah it was a vampire 100%
@remingtongagnard4442
@remingtongagnard4442 Жыл бұрын
Idk man I'm sold on it being a demon, creating vampire spawn
@tortugabug
@tortugabug Жыл бұрын
What makes me so sad is the one who I thought was evil (the priest) turned out to be the most honest, humanitarian one of all. And he basically did all of this for his loved ones 😭 his senile and pure mind genuinely thought he had found an angel. So sad.
@xandara75
@xandara75 11 ай бұрын
't was a strange twist to me as well
@chloemedeiros3546
@chloemedeiros3546 Жыл бұрын
I just watched Midnight Mass with my Dad (his first viewing, my second) and he's a Pastor, a man of God one might say and he was terrified of the angel in this series. He said "I think it's the devil. The devil after all is often called the prince of darkness" hence why this angel can't go into sunlight. This and the theories presented in this video makes sense because in most vampire stories they are repelled by holy objects or walking into a house of God. So it makes sense this would be the devil or a demon (though I'm going with my Dad's theory) since they were once angels.
@josiahtheblacksmith467
@josiahtheblacksmith467 Жыл бұрын
Demon makes the most sense to me from what I've seen in this video. In most vampire origins they are the result of 1demons themselves, 2the nephilim (spawn of fallen angels and humans), 3 people under the influence or possessed by demons who commit suicide or die in an unrepentant state ( like Judas in some stories. Or Cain being cursed for killing his brother Able)
@victorswamp1547
@victorswamp1547 10 ай бұрын
A bit late, I know, but mind telling what your dad thought of how the monsignor and religious people in general are depicted?
@Jon155mt
@Jon155mt 9 ай бұрын
Yeah but remember the scene that showed the monsenior’s hand was bleeding while holding the cross? That’s another direct implication that the creature was a vampire.
@zeuslorne7005
@zeuslorne7005 6 ай бұрын
The Devil is not called the prince on darkness, that is a man made term. He is THE angel of light, and will forever be. The creature presented in that video was a fallen angel, nothing more nothing less. Man has a bad habit of just automatically calling anything" dark " the devil and anything " light " of God. By that logic, the devil is God, angel of light and all. So no, it is not the devil and hypochristians, especially pastors need a deeper education and understanding of the bible & all the mysteries it contains instead of throwing all things dark and evil at the devil. God did say that HE created the peace and makes the evil, keep that in mind. So who is the bad guy really, in the end? Vampires are not repelled by holy objects, that is also something that is man made, again, men have twisted, added to and taken away from so many myths. The bible states that man shall not add not take away from the word of " god ". Even if you consider it the word of " god " man has had way too much of an influence on it, tweaking it for personal and political gain. Take the KJV for example, few people know that King James was a raging bisexual pedophile who removed so many things from the bible and rewrote numerous passages and words to fit HIS narrative. In the end, the great mysteries of the universe and even the vaunted scholars of the world will never understand the mysteries behind divinity and damnation. The fun part is learning about it little by little along the way. Do not be scared of what you do not know or don't understand, embrace it, explore it. Knowledge is invaluable.
@davidfaustino4476
@davidfaustino4476 6 ай бұрын
Satan can't go into daylight? That's a new one.
@hakianabenioni9666
@hakianabenioni9666 Жыл бұрын
@7:19 when you rewatch it you realise that the convulsion isn't about the resurrection but it's caused by the poison. When Monsignor Pruitt dies and comes back it's actually because Bev poisons him as a way to force him to admit the secret to at least the mayor and his wife. Before that point he was still able to walk in the sun, which is how they learnt that everyone had to die to fully complete the change. She literally went on a limb thinking he was like Jesus and would resurrect, inadvertently causing the final events.
@pirateskeleton7828
@pirateskeleton7828 Жыл бұрын
I did not notice her poisoning him. Will have to look carefully on a rewatch. Makes sense, though. She did take the poison and used it on the dog.
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 Жыл бұрын
So the stupidest thing about the show is that, apparently, no, Bev did not poison Pruitt. That really was Pruitt dying from the vampire blood. Why is this stupid? Because you're right, there are so many clues that Bev did poison him. And the way the episode is filmed implies that she poisoned him
@kaetispannbauer9082
@kaetispannbauer9082 6 ай бұрын
​@@carlycrays2831What do you mean apparently? What's your source?
@Zikomo7
@Zikomo7 Жыл бұрын
It could be a fallen angel/demon. It’s smart and disciplined enough to know when to hang back. When the storm unburies it, it could have immediately gone back to Jerusalem and started feeding but it didn’t feel like it. When the priest came into its cave, it was going to kill him to keep its secret. But when it realized he was religious, it knew it could have a little fun. So it agrees to cloak itself and fly to the island with the assumption that it could torment the island.
@jasminkrieger8464
@jasminkrieger8464 Жыл бұрын
Its a vamp watch underworld movie vamp vs werewolves
@Zikomo7
@Zikomo7 Жыл бұрын
@@jasminkrieger8464 not sure what you mean, but it’s smarter than an animal and not fueled by hunger. It seems to enjoy bastardizing religion. The scene where it gleefully enters the church dressed in religious garb proves this.
@jasminkrieger8464
@jasminkrieger8464 Жыл бұрын
@@Zikomo7 watch underworld movie sons of corvenius one bitten by a bat the other by a wolf
@jasminkrieger8464
@jasminkrieger8464 Жыл бұрын
@@Zikomo7 and compare this here is defently a vamp
@jasminkrieger8464
@jasminkrieger8464 Жыл бұрын
@@Zikomo7 this Type of vamp blade would hunt
@xochiltaviles4539
@xochiltaviles4539 Жыл бұрын
I recently four your channel and omg I’m binging all of your videos. I love vampires and love that your content has a focus on vampires in our modern media🧛‍♂️
@CynsCorner
@CynsCorner Жыл бұрын
In Dracula 2000, the vamp was Judas, living out the curse played upon him when he betrayed Jesus. I thought that was an interesting take on vampire lore. Great video, btw!
@jamesclukey7488
@jamesclukey7488 Жыл бұрын
I'm not usually much of a vampire movie viewer. I Binge watched this series in just a few days. Not because of the impending horror, but because of the well defined characters. So much of the series focused on the church and what the priest was telling his parish that it was tough to turn away. Very well done show. Good writing is so rare, so I was happy to find this by accident.
@zionleach3001
@zionleach3001 Жыл бұрын
Well the Priest was senile. So maybe the vampire influenced his mind. Cause I'm sure most people would assume it's a demon.
@0912sooli
@0912sooli Жыл бұрын
I think priest already was quite fucked up in mind before that.
@hippy282
@hippy282 Жыл бұрын
Your theory makes a lot of sense. Every time an angel shows up they utter the phrase "Be not afraid." A more accurate translation could be "Please stop screaming it hurts my ears"
@PooPooWeeWee814
@PooPooWeeWee814 Жыл бұрын
Fallen angel or not, there is the viral aspect and there is the supernatural aspect: that Angel is the progenitor, the source of the infection and it's sole purpose is spreading it. Also, it can communicate, and possibly manipulate, those infected by it - as Pruit said, he could feel every death, every person affected by the "miracle", thus we can assume that the Angel could've had a better mastery and possibly even control, of that sense. This might explain the mimicry of the voice even. And most certainly that is how it "talked" to father Pruit.
@Justicar333
@Justicar333 Жыл бұрын
I still think it's just a vampire, but you do propose an interesting hypothesis. As to why a handful didn't give in to the lust, I think it's just that their good people at heart. The transformation brings out the beast inside, so to speak, but there are some folks who genuinely have a good core. It's not that unusual in vampire stories to see someone hold off for a while, only to later give in as their humanity slow fades in comparison to the hunger. Very much an addiction allegory. In time I think they would have fed, but for then their morals were strong enough to let them control their hunger.
@naginy6
@naginy6 Жыл бұрын
When he brought up angels and calling it a possible fallen angel, I knew what passages he was talking about whenever angels came to prophets and telling them to not be afraid. I do remember that the angels described as not looking in any way shape or form the same way the vampire looked lik.
@Sidragrosm
@Sidragrosm Жыл бұрын
It was a Vampire, but not just *ANY* Vampire - Much like with Demons, there are, call them, "Positions of Authority," for lack of a better term. Given how powerful it was, even starved as it must have been, I would class it as a Vampire Lord. Most 'Lesser" vampires would have died from starvation - THIS one didn't. That alone suggests it's power. Beyond that, there is a reason it responded to Pruitt's words - One can find them in the Old & New Testament: The Blood is The Life. (Which is probably why blood drinking is so proscribed, but that's for another discussion...)
@amberlaughlin3518
@amberlaughlin3518 Жыл бұрын
That phrase says it all. The blood is the life.
@MoonchildOfDarkness
@MoonchildOfDarkness Жыл бұрын
man, it's nice to finally have a channel where you don't have to wonder whether or not VtM will be mentioned when it's relevant very nice :)
@drowningpooralice5505
@drowningpooralice5505 Жыл бұрын
I liked this. The biblical description of angels are terrifying, not vampiric, but terrifying, angels are the militant wing of heaven, makes sense they'd be scary.
@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459
@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459 Жыл бұрын
The producers said it's a vampire, my guess it started out as a human and was cursed by god thousands of years ago becoming a shadow of its former self. The sunlight weakness could also have a biblical explanation, in some cultures, the sun is a symbol for god.
@DeAngryDan
@DeAngryDan Жыл бұрын
I loved the part when the priest turned on the lighter and right in front of him was the vampire shouting "its morbin time"
@gusguzmanjr.12
@gusguzmanjr.12 Жыл бұрын
I think the vampire kept the Priest alive because it saw him as a way out of his prison. Mostly likely the vampire was trapped in the dessert because obviously there isn't much shade in the dessert for hundreds of miles. Also, at the end about 30 min before dawn the vampire flew off with damaged wings trying to fly to the mainland 30 miles away did leave a possible sequel.
@AidilAfham
@AidilAfham Жыл бұрын
When they said people were terrified when they’ve seen an angel, it was probably refering to very early depictions of angels, as flying objects with eyes surrounded by wings
@monsunoguy19
@monsunoguy19 Жыл бұрын
I have one weird suggestion for a video topic. This one's pretty out there, the Fangires from Kamen Rider Kiva- and probably by extension the Wolfen race of the same series. The Fangies are vampiric creatures albeit different from the norm. Hopefully the source material of the creatures aren't too different since it's more of a superhero work aside from the usual video topic.
@daniell1483
@daniell1483 Жыл бұрын
Genetically Modified Skeptic makes a good argument that the angel is an analogy for religious extremism, and that is how I interpret the angel. Further, there are a few points worth making. First, I agree that this version of vampirism is partially biological, and partly supernatural. We see Riley getting genuine prophetic visions of the bloodied church, which are implied to be sent by God; it is Riley's act of selfless sacrifice that tips the scales of fate just enough to stop the angel. Had he not done so, the angel would have won, as not even Erin believed his story of being turned until he burst into flames at sunrise. So there is definitely a pinch of implied divine intervention going on. Throughout the show, Father Paul explains that the angel can communicate telepathically with those who have drank the angel's blood. As he releases Riley, he makes the remark that over time, the angel's "voice" grows stronger over time and its thoughts become his thoughts. I assume that the end product here would be people incapable of resisting the angel's influence. This turns the whole ordeal into a nearly apocalyptic disease outbreak. Had the angel's curse spread to the mainland, it really would have been the end of humanity as we know it. So yes, I think ultimately that the angel was a fallen angel.
@666hellviewlane
@666hellviewlane Жыл бұрын
Vampires in general are great story vehicles for comparing anything in real life and turning it into a vampire story where the vampire could be a hero and the bloodlust can be sort of becoming what you're supposed to be or dealing with addiction to drugs by being all powerful fast don't age it was done very good in The Vampire Diaries in my opinion this is a whole new level though I like when they go a route of totally leaving out how or what turned this thing into what it is because most vampire stories are either God made the first vampire or a witch or some kind of Supernatural being created the first vampires like in The Vampire Diaries True Blood did the Lilith being the first vampire aka the first demon
@daniell1483
@daniell1483 Жыл бұрын
@@666hellviewlane It is hard to ignore the parallels. Drains life from others to feed itself in a parasitic manner? Check. Promises immediate power at the expense of human morality? Check. It is really a who's who of the classic vices. Pride, gluttony, lust, wrath, sloth, etc.
@sthlng2180
@sthlng2180 Жыл бұрын
This actually makes a lot of sense. Riley abandons his faith after the accident and is haunted every night, but he starts having visions of himself on the boat, something that does happen and where he sees the same girl he killed 4 years prior, except she's normal and happy (them being in heaven possibly? As a reward for Riley, for passing God's test and halting the fallen angel's plan)
@daniell1483
@daniell1483 Жыл бұрын
@@sthlng2180 I really think that is the case. From the first episode, Riley is haunted not by a ghost, but by his own guilt for having killed someone. He served his time, he paid his fine, but Riley still is haunted. Then in the boat with the sunrise, he sees the girl for the first time not in a dream, but before his very eyes. And she looks at him with warmth, taking his hand in forgiveness. This is clearly not a dream, but seemingly not on Earth, either. So yes, I think Riley died instantly from the sun, and we see him in the boat, being raised up to what is clearly an implication that Riley went to some form of Heaven. And judging from the girl's smile and caring look, she has forgiven him, finally allowing Riley to forgive himself.
@hozair
@hozair 2 ай бұрын
This is the best explanation to Midnight Mass. Thank you for the video.
@Mavrock954
@Mavrock954 Жыл бұрын
Great cast/performances compelling story. I didn’t want it to end 😭🔥🔥🔥🔥
@xevikan8818
@xevikan8818 Жыл бұрын
Azrael is actually the name. Idk where ozrael came from. Could be a variation I'm not familiar with. Azrael is the arch angel of death in cabbalistic belief
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Жыл бұрын
Azarel is the angel of death in both Jewish and Islamic beliefs
@staceyd8397
@staceyd8397 Жыл бұрын
I read that as cannibalistic 🤦🏻‍♀️
@jamesfede
@jamesfede Жыл бұрын
I'd be very interested in what your take on the Vampires of Nosgoth is/would be. The Soul Reaver franchise has a lot of interesting takes on what it is to be a "Vampire"
@namekman01
@namekman01 Жыл бұрын
the franchise is called 'legacy of kain'
@jamesfede
@jamesfede Жыл бұрын
@@namekman01 I've heard it referred to interchangeably between LoK and SR Franchises - I only chose to say SR over LoK because of the original Blood Omen which is canonically Kain, but technically not a "Legacy" Title, you know?
@coganLollins
@coganLollins Жыл бұрын
I havnt seen it but will definitely check it out! Thanks 🙏
@grantpflum6844
@grantpflum6844 Жыл бұрын
I am not even sure that this thing is responsible for the angle myth. It is far more likely that it would be likely to be the original inspiration for demons! Seriously, the only reason people associated this thing with an angle is the words of a literally demented priest. Considering Jerusalem's long and BLOODY history its just as likely that this monster lived there for the easy hunting than it is for the religious significance and considering we don't know how common this species is, it was never confirmed if there is more than one, its just as likely that they are dotted across that entire continent in the remotest regions than it is that this priest found the ONLY one.
@IgoByaGo
@IgoByaGo Жыл бұрын
@@coganLollins It is one of the greatest game series ever made. Amy Hennig of Uncharted fame used to be in charge of the story line. I loved Blood Omen, but the first time I played Soul Reaver, that Intro had me hooked. Still my favorite Vampire saga ever.
@zacman223
@zacman223 Жыл бұрын
I shared your fun of exploring this fantastic show with your fantastic video. Thank you!
@sabrinagana
@sabrinagana Жыл бұрын
Coogs. Ur one of my favorite ppls. Really. I love these videos mane.
@ornu01
@ornu01 Жыл бұрын
Vampire is really more of a descriptor, it's entirely possible for it to be both a fallen angel with vampiric abilities.
@danny_decheeto8300
@danny_decheeto8300 Жыл бұрын
Maybe? It could also just be a vampire that isn’t repulsed by holy ground or holy objects
@jenerin905
@jenerin905 Жыл бұрын
I've been deep diving into biblical text lately (my husband has been a little worried about me since I have never put much stock in the Bible) and the descriptions of angels are quite horrifying. The wings, we all expected, but the tons of eyes, or multiple faces. You're right, in this story, the angel and vampire are definitely one and the same.
@ornu01
@ornu01 Жыл бұрын
@@jenerin905 Yeah, biblical angels are shapeshifters and utterly terrifying entities. If you've seen the ban on ever trying to depict God in any form it's the same reason, trying to envision God is blasphemy because succeeding would be so much worse for you.
@nolives
@nolives Жыл бұрын
This was one of the greatest "vampire series ever, much less one of the best series on netflix. The show wouldnt have been nearly as good without the actor Hamish as the Priest. He is one of my favorite actors. Hes good in everything ive seen him play in, I especially enjoyed watching his role in legion. Hes pretty diverse, in legion hes more reserved and calculated where in midnight mass he was more frantic and maniacal. Hes been really sucessful in the roles he has gotten but I feel he is really under rated and under used in hollywood and I hope that changes.
@nohedidnt777
@nohedidnt777 Жыл бұрын
Just came across the channel and I'm digging it my guy 👍
@tdbla98
@tdbla98 Жыл бұрын
The part of the show where it shows Riley's parents being able to contain themselves and not attack others shows their true beliefs/morals, I think it's pretty open and clear what's going on.. They're genuinely good people who are not turned into monsters because they don't have "bad blood" and yes it was hard not to make that pun haha. But I believe that his parents and the child of the sheriff were not attacking others because they were "pure" and knew better, at their core, and that they wouldn't just give in to temptation. I think that is really shown well in the show, the fact that it's not easy to know others true selves, and that nothing makes you a monster, it can only shed light on those bad parts that you have, and bring it out of you. It's not making them violent, it's just loosening their inhibitions and letting them feel as if it's okay because "god" or an "angel" gave them permission. Says a lot about addiction and true, deeply held morals, or the lack there of.
@bigguy8818
@bigguy8818 Жыл бұрын
I had to read into the themes of this show for a class and two of the main ideas that stuck out was the dilemma of choosing love or faith, and faith giving permission to act unethically. This actually ties into that so well, that the ones who attack people are doing it because since their faith told them it’s okay, while the Flynn’s and Ali know it wrong whether or not that Faith says it’s okay. Although it could also be about the strength of the temptation, Riley tried to attack Bev when she was close by. Maybe Ali and the Flynn’s just were never close enough to a person for their hunger to get the best of them.
@remingtongagnard4442
@remingtongagnard4442 Жыл бұрын
I'm sold on it being a Demon, its resulting spawn could be considered vampires tho. Just not the science-y genetics type the antediluvian-curse type.
@crozraven
@crozraven Жыл бұрын
Based on the geographical & historical mythos aspects, it's more than likely that the creature is a "goul/ghoul." This is especially strong with the creature live in cave across deserts that hidden in the storm. Exactly the general description of ghoul in Arabian literature. Yes, all the vampiric Europen creatures also based on Middle Eastern ghoul mythos. Sometimes, ghoul could also be categorized to "djinn" & it does make sense in religious aspects for Abrahamic religions as Christians demons/fallen angels are what djinns are to Islamic mythos. In this aspects, it make sense how the djinn/creature able to grant people healing power or even immortality, also have some seemingly deceptive supernatural powers. Of course those perks comes with "heavy prices."
@basedgod6016
@basedgod6016 Жыл бұрын
"All vampirics creatures" aren't based on Middle Eastern myths, the modern vampire takes inspiration from myths and folklore that's developed independently all across the world, like i really doubt some Polish farmers scared of Strigas were very well versed in Arab folklore
@wittyjoker4631
@wittyjoker4631 Жыл бұрын
Vlad tepesh would like to have word, sit on this pole.
@JoelPit
@JoelPit Жыл бұрын
@@wittyjoker4631 Vlad Tepesh was from Turkey which is the middle east and at the time was being attacked by the Moors so he could have heard the stories
@basedgod6016
@basedgod6016 Жыл бұрын
@@JoelPit folkloric stories have nothing to do with what Vlad Tepesh was doing though, he WAS the inspiration he literally just impaled people (also he was from Romania, he was just in a war with the Ottoman Turks)
@sweaspurdoddd5466
@sweaspurdoddd5466 Жыл бұрын
@@JoelPit amerimutt education
@newp848
@newp848 11 ай бұрын
The people insisting the vampire creatture was litterally an angel or devil or demon missed the point of the show. Listen to Erin's dying monologue in the end.
@justinlang313
@justinlang313 Жыл бұрын
I just found your channel and liked how you explained this.
@jand.4737
@jand.4737 Жыл бұрын
Since you mentioned Vampire: the Masquerade, I feel like adding something there: in VTM there is a church of Vampires who see their kind as angels of death, blessed by god to end the suffering of humans who are living in hell-on-earth. This movie feels like it was either the inspiration for or inspired by the Church of Caine, depending on release dates.
@plinyelder8156
@plinyelder8156 Жыл бұрын
What’s VTM?
@Toccata.
@Toccata. Жыл бұрын
@@plinyelder8156 VTM is a like dungeons and dragons but it focus on different types of vampires and werewolves it also has PC game but it’s pretty old.
@hunterphille1280
@hunterphille1280 Жыл бұрын
I can see your theory here. You make a great argument with a strong point, however I'm choosing to still view the series as a more elaborate vampire story for the sole reason that the majority of viewers will never be able to connect those dots and therefore not be able to imagine more than what the series only shows. Great video though man. It was very entertaining and thought provoking.
@xuxuang8574
@xuxuang8574 6 ай бұрын
I assumed it was a vampire, but the implications of that to me wasn't that this one priest had mistaken a vampire for an angel, but that angel's aren't real, and every Christian angel was in fact a vampire from the beginning to now. Hense the blood drinking rituals and obsession with resurrection.
@vasipro
@vasipro Жыл бұрын
@Cogan Lollins interesting take. Thank you for the clip.
@AnotherKid23
@AnotherKid23 Жыл бұрын
This was actually a really great series. It took vampirism on a realistic spin and using Christianity, it manipulated and used the people of the island. It was believable that people would fall prey to something smarter than them.
@TheOnlyHBIC
@TheOnlyHBIC Жыл бұрын
I love these videos ugh. We need more vampire shows and movies!!!! Theres so much to do with vampires. Have you ever did twilight vampires? I went through your videos and I didnt see any.
@mr.whisper3338
@mr.whisper3338 Жыл бұрын
Going by where it was found, its appearance and wings, I always assumed it was an ancient demon/fallen angel. It doesn't make sense that a vampire would be found in Jerusalem.
@cerogravity8653
@cerogravity8653 Жыл бұрын
One of the best one off shows I have seen, hopefully we can get another from the director
@grahamcann1761
@grahamcann1761 Жыл бұрын
I think the "fallen angel" theory is right, but I also think it's a vampire, in otherwords vampires are from fallen angels. Thank you so very much for the video.
@tciaravino
@tciaravino Жыл бұрын
In the book of Enoch, the Watchers came down to earth to take mortal wives. Afterward, they were damned forced to watch their children kill one another, then they were buried in the desert. This may have been one of those watchers unearthed.
@princeali4411
@princeali4411 Жыл бұрын
This is very interesting, what chapter is this in if you recall?
@kreevisful
@kreevisful Жыл бұрын
@@princeali4411 Read all the book of Enoch or listen to an audio book on KZfaq. It's a wealth of information and there's a good reason the catholic church removed The Book of Enoch and many others from the original Bible.
@rulerofkripsy9143
@rulerofkripsy9143 Жыл бұрын
@@kreevisful the book of enoch is catholic monk fanfic . Why do you anglo saxon fools lie about everything you touch weather it be Christianity or Ireland. Thousands of copies of the original bible exist in north and east africa .
@rulerofkripsy9143
@rulerofkripsy9143 Жыл бұрын
@@princeali4411 enoch isn’t canon bruv .
@kreevisful
@kreevisful Жыл бұрын
@@rulerofkripsy9143 *Cool, story bro.* Go read more.
@mooseitself
@mooseitself Жыл бұрын
"It's not an angel, but a fallen angel, or possibly an angel of death" So an angel...
@TANKTREAD
@TANKTREAD Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this very much, would really like to see more of this story.
@onuadhain7399
@onuadhain7399 Жыл бұрын
I was definitely skeptical up until you said it could be a Fallen Angel. Really have me thinking "Damn could be"
@magicman3163
@magicman3163 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping it would look like a biblically accurate angel and use like a butterfly mouth to drink blood
@jenerin905
@jenerin905 Жыл бұрын
Biblically accurate how? As described in the Bible or Renaissance interpretation of angels? I never quite understood the proboscis vampire mouth. Where did that start from? Any ideas?
@magicman3163
@magicman3163 Жыл бұрын
@@jenerin905 the highest level of angels in the Bible look like weird bird bugs with a bunch of eyes and 6 wings the low level angels look like people or try to hide their true appearance and appear human for humans to not be scared when they appear with a sound and brightness of lightning
@HieuTran-bk5di
@HieuTran-bk5di Жыл бұрын
Love the video, I just watched the Day Shift on Netflix hope you could do a video about the Vampires there
@fannyalexander5906
@fannyalexander5906 Жыл бұрын
Watched the series twice already, one of the best.
@CeticWales
@CeticWales Жыл бұрын
The idea that it is a fallen angel is very interesting, and I can absolutely see it being the case.
@Ocelot4R
@Ocelot4R Жыл бұрын
It's either a fallen angel (demon), a creature created by a demon or just some high level vampire that has managed to sustain itself for a very long time.
@arturocaissut1071
@arturocaissut1071 Жыл бұрын
I strongly hope there is no season two: this show is so good I wouldn't want it to be potentially spoiled for me by any sequel.
@Zeithri
@Zeithri Жыл бұрын
I like how in Legacy of Kain, the original Vampires are as described by Janos Audron, as "Divine". Angelic wings and all that. But then they were cursed with bloodlust. The curse they pass on however worsens on their 'children' so to say, making them look more 'demonic'. And while none of them ever grew wings after that, the right-hand that Kain sired, Raziel did grow wings. And his wings were demonic, featherless. It's an interesting juxtaposition. Also fits with the original intent for Soul Reaver when it was called a different name, being a story of an angel cast out of heaven climbing it's way back up. In Soul Reaver, Raziel is cast out of Kain's empire left for dead and he crawls his way back from the abyss to get his revenge. So if I were to build upon your theory; Yes it could had been an angel. Yes it could had been cast out of heaven when it lost. Yes there could be more. Having been cast out, they are also cursed and twisted to look like that. And their curse, is the traditional traits of Vampires we know. Which in this universe ( _Midnight Mass_ ) is what people associate with "miracles" as well as "vampirism".
@RexMckinnis
@RexMckinnis Жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only person still talking about this show. Halloween coming up and ima re watch it! It was SOOOO GOOD!! I’ve been trying to get people to watch this! Also, I do NOT want a second season! Please No. It was good how it was!
@MaxGideonActor
@MaxGideonActor Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people are getting hung up on naming the creature as one or the other, when it could be all of the choices. The creature could be the or one of the originators of all the mythologies for vampires, angels, demons, etc. -- each of the names of these supernatural beings being different branches from the same root tree. The debate among those who wish to categorize it as originally one or the other may be moot. It is each of them and all of them are it -- a kind of synecdoche. That said about its official nomenclature -- discussion about if it is a historical or mythological figure, or if it gave rise through itself or its actions to those figures, is an ongoing & interesting debate, as well as the confirmation of its origin -- though I doubt we'll ever know unless told by the author (and I really don't think they probably had a concrete definition of that either). Happy hunting. ;)👹🧛👼🐧
@senju31
@senju31 Жыл бұрын
This is the comment I was looking for.
@MaxGideonActor
@MaxGideonActor 11 ай бұрын
@@senju31 awesome possum 😁😎👍🏻 happy to have hopefully helped! 🐧
@erikwhitney7403
@erikwhitney7403 Жыл бұрын
A fallen angel and probably not the only one, that led to vampire myths is the best fit. Not that we know anything about this but base on what we know a vampire needs blood to survive and this one was hidden for 1-2 thousand years with no blood.
@neras271990
@neras271990 13 күн бұрын
My buddy who played the monster is an awesome monster actor and I’m so happy to see how well he did
@patriotenfield3276
@patriotenfield3276 Жыл бұрын
Hello again Cogan. I came here with more recommendations. some more TV/ movie/ games /anime Recommendations What We do in the Shadows ( Both Vampires and Werewolves) Being Humans (Both Vampires and Werewolves) John Carpenter's Vampires (1998) The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (Vampire Mina Harker) The Order 1886 (Video Game / Both Vampires and Werewolves as well as immortals) The Order TV series (Lobisomem/Werewolves) Skyrim (Video Game/ Video Game movie Vampires and Werewolves and other mystic creatures) Howl 2015 (werewolves) Stephen King's Silver Bullet (Werewolf) An American werewolf in London (Werewolf) An American werewolf in Paris (Werewolf) Bad Moon (Werewolf) Cursed 2005 (werewolves) Ginger snaps franchise (werewolves) The Howling franchise (Werewolves) Werewolf:The Beast Among us (werewolves and Vampires) Helsing, Helsing Ultimate, Helsing the Dawn (Vampires and Werewolves) From Dusk till Dawn (Vampires) Dracula 2000 (Vampires) Dracula 3000 (Vampires) Night Teeth (Vampires) The Last Vampire Princess/Guardians of the Night (RUSSIAN Vampire movie) Sirius The Jaeger (Vampires) Luger code 1951 (werewolves and beasthumans) Supernatural The animations (all of them) Marvel Blade animation (Vampires and Werewolves from Asiatic folklores including Mannanangal ) Nightwatch and Daywatch ( RUSSIAN movie franchise on Vampire-Demon and Angelic like entities) Dark Shadows (Vampires) Vampire Academy (Vampires) Interview With a Vampire (Vampires) Bloodsucking B*tads / Bloodsucking Office Vampires (Vampires) (can't afford to spell that censored B word) Bloodrayne franchise (Vampires) The Lost Boys (Vampires) Cirque du Freak : The Vampire's assistant (Vampires) Ghoul (Indian movie on Ghoul)
@bobbylee_
@bobbylee_ Жыл бұрын
I particularly love how this story places biblical tales and characters on the same footing as mythology.
@MakiPcr
@MakiPcr Жыл бұрын
I assumed Riley's parents and Ali didn't give in to the urge because they're good people, it's not that they're "different" from the rest is just that they realize killing people is bad; Mildred didn't kill anyone either
@Saffron-sugar
@Saffron-sugar Жыл бұрын
Angels are depicted in the Bible, and many other writings, as looking many different ways. Ophanim are wheels of light and cherubim three headed six winged beings. Yes. However, none of them can be freaking vanquished by a little bit of sunlight! The idea of fallen angels being the same thing as vampires is a cool idea and I understand it is a theory in the book trilogy “the strain“. However, they are more dangerous, they are not gargoyle bat people who have to rely on some patsy to drag them around in a suitcase. I just think we have to believe that this story takes place in a universe where people don’t know about vampires. Since this thing gives the priest youth and immortality, of a type, he wants to believe it is an angel. You’d think he would think it was a Demon
@antoniobrown247
@antoniobrown247 Жыл бұрын
Thank God I found a comment that actually makes sense. All these other commentors doesn't know much at all.
@peachoxo4099
@peachoxo4099 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, it's definitely a vampire. I think a lot of vampires in vampire lore don't actually die from not drinking blood, but I think it was very weak that's why it needed Pruitt at the start and didn't just fly from the cave.
@andreas904
@andreas904 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE these theories about fallen angels and demons. Biblical stuff portrayed in movies and media in general is my fav genre easily!
@daledrakewriter4912
@daledrakewriter4912 Жыл бұрын
You should listen to Broken Messiah on Mrcreepypasta channel or Hellbound
@Nosferatu_21
@Nosferatu_21 Жыл бұрын
I BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO GO OVER THE DETAILS IN THIS SHOW
@jeffluebbe6907
@jeffluebbe6907 9 ай бұрын
I love Stephen King's Salem's Lot and recall that Larry Crockett is the dodgy real estate agent who unknowingly facilitates the arrival of the vampire. It seems like an homage or Easter egg not an integral thing; but in shows like this names are often intentional.
@johnsummers2943
@johnsummers2943 Жыл бұрын
For Vampires I think Legacy of Kain/Soul reaver games are great and have a nice take on Vampire lore. For non Vampire why not cover The Ring american or japanese. Love the vids keep them coming :)
@jenerin905
@jenerin905 Жыл бұрын
Dracula 2000 was the first time (I was a teen) I had ever heard the Judas/Vampire connection, and linking vampire lore to the Bible only makes sense because of the vampire weaknesses (crosses, silver, holy water). I agree on the Ring! I had a love/hate relationship with that movie when it came out! That TV scene creeped the hell out of me, but the movies were so good.
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