The Crisis in Cosmology

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The search for a single number: the hubble constant, which is the rate of expansion of our universe, has consumed astronomers for generations. Finally, two powerful and independent methods have refined its measurement to unprecedented precision. The only problem is that they don’t agree. This calls into question some of our most basic assumptions about the universe.
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In 1929, Edwin Hubble discovered the universe. He gave us our first incontrovertible proof that there are galaxies outside the Milky Way by measuring the distances to the spiral nebulae. They were many millions of light years from us -far outside the Milky Way and so must be galaxies in their own right. Combined with the Doppler-shift velocity measurements of Vesto Slipher, Hubble revealed that the galaxies are not only receding from us, but they are receding at a rate proportional to their distance.
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@vellyxenya3970
@vellyxenya3970 5 жыл бұрын
"Dark Energy = Dark matter * (Speed of Dark)^2" got me laughing for much longer than I should have
@traviskelsey6674
@traviskelsey6674 5 жыл бұрын
His delivery was beautiful. I had to rewind the video (a T-reversal, if you will) to properly appreciate it.
@ChronoSquare
@ChronoSquare 5 жыл бұрын
Given that the speed of dark exceeds (can exceed) the speed of light... it's a scary thought!
@Semicon07
@Semicon07 5 жыл бұрын
That's because you are a human...and all humans find bullshit amusing.
@forthebirds4
@forthebirds4 5 жыл бұрын
DE=DM(can'tc)^2
@easyeagle2
@easyeagle2 5 жыл бұрын
And now, Dark Flow. I am laughing too long too. Lololol. Cosmology is getting humorous.
@RR-fi4oh
@RR-fi4oh 5 жыл бұрын
Whether you use standard candles or cosmic microwave, your frozen burrito is still going to have a great cold spot.
@deathbydeviceable
@deathbydeviceable 5 жыл бұрын
If you add the size of the burrito vs time nuked, fixed with trial and error, that cold spot will be non existent in about ten burritos
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x 5 жыл бұрын
@@deathbydeviceable I beg your pardon?
@PainterVierax
@PainterVierax 5 жыл бұрын
is burrito the new time measurement in the USA ?
@RR-fi4oh
@RR-fi4oh 5 жыл бұрын
@@PainterVierax We are not quite there yet. Give us a few more decades of demographic blueshift.
@PainterVierax
@PainterVierax 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the future president will be the Taco Bell CEO
@artbyjes
@artbyjes 5 жыл бұрын
I get soooooo excited when there’s an argument between prediction and observation at this level - because it means we are missing something. And that means more science! MORE SCIENCE! 😁👍
@robknight9406
@robknight9406 5 жыл бұрын
perhaps it's something like the idea that the atoms in our universe are also expanding proportional to their size, throwing off the results. i like the expansion of atoms idea as it can also explain gravity!
@life42theuniverse
@life42theuniverse 5 жыл бұрын
Even more excited when it is discrepancy between two observations?
@adventureseeker8988
@adventureseeker8988 4 жыл бұрын
Look into Thunderbolts projects channel.
@chrisdonovan1642
@chrisdonovan1642 3 жыл бұрын
Jes Ewers the experts are always shocked at what we find...They have no idea. Observations are nearly always far off from their predictions. They really dont know
@dedskin1
@dedskin1 3 жыл бұрын
Science = Physics =Math you dont want more Math nor do you need it . What you need is Metaphysics= Reasons and explanation why something is . As soon as you ask Why? You are on a good Because Why implies that there is some grand design , and everything has a reason why it is what it is . There is not a single thing in the nature that doesnt have a WHY But common ppl that enjoy science dont have one Answer to any of it . They are not even used to that question. If i Ask Why Gravity , not what is Gravity? What can a scientist say , lies are done , and they dont have the truth , so they wont even answer it . On the other hand Metaphysics can answer that question truthfully. And iknow that becasue i am in to Methaphisics , not Physics or math . But philosophy behind it .
@johnk4437
@johnk4437 5 жыл бұрын
A decent treatment of this outstanding problem in current cosmology... not too overly detailed, clear, and thorough ! Great job !
@antoineroquentin2297
@antoineroquentin2297 5 жыл бұрын
we could just cut the photons in half and count the rings
@killssingasuka7819
@killssingasuka7819 5 жыл бұрын
No. Photons are not discrete. They are destroyed by further knowledge... but you knew that.
@yeeterchungus3887
@yeeterchungus3887 5 жыл бұрын
***that's not how that works***
@adizmal
@adizmal 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, Yeeter.
@domu
@domu 5 жыл бұрын
@@yeeterchungus3887 woosh
@isaakloewen5172
@isaakloewen5172 5 жыл бұрын
That’s not how mafia works
@ahmedabbas4434
@ahmedabbas4434 5 жыл бұрын
*An engineer walks in* Just take the average of the results and call it a day...
@dasaggropop1244
@dasaggropop1244 5 жыл бұрын
it's easier on the computer, too.
@brawnstein
@brawnstein 5 жыл бұрын
sin(x)=x
@TheArnoldification
@TheArnoldification 5 жыл бұрын
stop bullying me :(
@xarmanhskafragos2516
@xarmanhskafragos2516 5 жыл бұрын
I laughted way too much to that.
@coopergates9680
@coopergates9680 5 жыл бұрын
@@brawnstein Sqrt(x^2) = x
@TheBendejo
@TheBendejo 5 жыл бұрын
"We know everything, as long as we can prove this number is constant" "... damnit."
@raymondpopple6390
@raymondpopple6390 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@martir.7653
@martir.7653 3 жыл бұрын
7:41 subtitles say "are a factor of 100,000 cooler", but actually 1/100,000. A mere 10 orders of magnitude wrong :)
@LeroiPaddi
@LeroiPaddi 5 жыл бұрын
I love to imagine what PBS Space Time will talk about 20 years from now, seeing how much questions about space time still haven’t been answered ^^
@dracolique
@dracolique 5 жыл бұрын
The only thing I'm sure about is that we'll still be arguing with Flat Earthers in the comment section.
@eggsngritstn
@eggsngritstn 5 жыл бұрын
They will be be advanced enough at space time to eliminate the questions from the start.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 5 жыл бұрын
That's great. It may means that we are wrong about something and need to rethink things. And that's a great opportunity for us to discover what is wrong, but also to consolidate what's right.
@justinfarnell2284
@justinfarnell2284 5 жыл бұрын
You are right. Mainstream cosmology is a house of cards built on wrong assumptions.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 5 жыл бұрын
@@justinfarnell2284 That's not exactly what I meant...
@thesavantart8480
@thesavantart8480 5 жыл бұрын
@@justinfarnell2284 he was right, you are wrong.
@dr.ambiguous4913
@dr.ambiguous4913 5 жыл бұрын
Justin Farnell That’s a bit of an ignorant statement.
@TheMarrethiel
@TheMarrethiel 5 жыл бұрын
My 8 yo son wants to be an astro-physicist, this gives me hope that the universe won't be explained by the time he finishes school :)
@josephcampbell4724
@josephcampbell4724 5 жыл бұрын
Socrates: Shall we set down astronomy among the objects of study? Glaucon: I think so, to know something about the seasons, the months and the years is of use for military purposes, as well as for agriculture and for navigation. Socrates: It amuses me to see how afraid you are, lest the common herd of people should accuse you of recommending useless studies. - Socrates
@harleyspeedthrust4013
@harleyspeedthrust4013 2 жыл бұрын
Is that from his Apology? It's been a while but I remember seeing the name Glaucon
@firestem4
@firestem4 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you PBS and Matt! This is one of the most enjoyable and informative shows on youtube and anywhere else. I'm fascinated by astrophysics and these episodes only help to raise my interest until I can start taking these courses for my degree.
@Myvoetisseer
@Myvoetisseer 5 жыл бұрын
Man I'm smart. *watches PBS video* Man I'm stupid.
@chaost11
@chaost11 5 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, being smart is knowing how little you really know. I think that's a famous quote too, actually, but I don't remember who said it :p
@jozsefkalmar7054
@jozsefkalmar7054 5 жыл бұрын
@@chaost11 Me neither, but (s)he must have been wisest of all the Geeks. Or so it would seem :)
@brucewayne9985
@brucewayne9985 5 жыл бұрын
@@chaost11 I think you're referring to Socrates "I know that I know nothing" to a certain extent.
@iainpattison903
@iainpattison903 4 жыл бұрын
@@chaost11 Plato.
@PifflePrattle
@PifflePrattle 4 жыл бұрын
Man I'm dumb. Watch flat earth video - Hello Stockholm
@slother932
@slother932 5 жыл бұрын
The Hubble . . . variable?
@ZeHoSmusician
@ZeHoSmusician 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought! Plot twist!
@donaldendsley6199
@donaldendsley6199 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm wondering. The CMB clearly shows different energy levels throughout the universe, so why would the rate of expansion be the same throughout the universe?
@JavierCarron
@JavierCarron 5 жыл бұрын
@@donaldendsley6199 Good question! It is not, the Hubble parameter varies with the expansion of the Universe. But we have a very good understanding of how it varies, so obtaining the value at the "time of the CMB" means knowing the value in the current time. The Hubble constant is just the value of the Hubble parameter now.
@drx1xym154
@drx1xym154 3 жыл бұрын
@@donaldendsley6199 -- yes the variance, so far, is very slight - AFAIK. . The bigger question is why we have any variance or even the measured variance.
@stevejordan7275
@stevejordan7275 3 жыл бұрын
I believe you have my stapler.
@Dzeroed
@Dzeroed 5 жыл бұрын
Well the answer is obvious isn't it? Hubble Constant = 42
@papaclanc
@papaclanc 5 жыл бұрын
Yawn. . .
@BRUTALLEGENDD
@BRUTALLEGENDD 4 жыл бұрын
Yes the answer to the question is indeed 42. I will let my depressed AI robot, Marvin, to explain why the answer is 42 and why we do not know what the question is. Maybe it is a quantum thing.
@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587
@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587 4 жыл бұрын
@@BRUTALLEGENDD "why we do not know what the question is" stop 😂
@DG123z
@DG123z 3 жыл бұрын
@@BRUTALLEGENDD At what age does a person truly realize their life has been completely pointless and that there is no meaning in the universe.
@georgeb.wolffsohn30
@georgeb.wolffsohn30 3 жыл бұрын
@@DG123z the universe is it's own meaning.
@bostonmetalclips
@bostonmetalclips 4 жыл бұрын
I love when you say things are easy.
@carterredfearn4249
@carterredfearn4249 5 жыл бұрын
Why did this get taken down for like 30 minutes? I was watching and it was just deleted from existence. Am I a time Traveller?
@JeremyKolassa
@JeremyKolassa 5 жыл бұрын
You were in fact quantum tunneling through realities when this happened. You might want to check everything when you get home and see what details have changed.
@MrTomtomtest
@MrTomtomtest 5 жыл бұрын
You are stuck in a timeloop, doomed to only watch a few minutes of the video.
@sauron4481
@sauron4481 5 жыл бұрын
There was an editing error at the start that got fixed
@Omar-em7rl
@Omar-em7rl 5 жыл бұрын
at 0:22 he got cut off before showing the intro thingy, bad editing, PBS Space Time actually looks at the comments, so all you guy's voices are being heard, different for once....
@TS1336
@TS1336 5 жыл бұрын
They fixed a couple of glitches of the previous version
@Calex23
@Calex23 5 жыл бұрын
The Crisis in Cosmetology
@TheCimbrianBull
@TheCimbrianBull 5 жыл бұрын
ROFL! 🤣 😂 😅
@pseudoname3159
@pseudoname3159 5 жыл бұрын
Like oh my god everyday's a crisis in the cosmetology department sister
@Jossandoval
@Jossandoval 5 жыл бұрын
Your mirror?
@TheManglerPolishDeathMetal
@TheManglerPolishDeathMetal 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@quill444
@quill444 5 жыл бұрын
Tin Foiled Again!
@FlamingAtheist
@FlamingAtheist 5 жыл бұрын
I need to get the BGM for these episodes. They are so calming and great to listen to while having a learn
@benr3799
@benr3799 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most profound video I’ve ever seen on this channel, thank you for the curiosity :)
@mememem
@mememem 5 жыл бұрын
Not so constant now, eh?
@Skeleton-bs7zy
@Skeleton-bs7zy 5 жыл бұрын
meme What rule 34 are you
@sakari_n
@sakari_n 5 жыл бұрын
i did not expect to see u here
@arcaneinane
@arcaneinane 5 жыл бұрын
Love the profile picture
@05TE
@05TE 5 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that if you want to discover new physics it's a good idea to take a closer look at constants. A lot of them have turned out to be "constant" in special cases only.
@InfinnacageMusic
@InfinnacageMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Cirno.
@RandallStephens397
@RandallStephens397 5 жыл бұрын
A shame y'all didn't take the opportunity to recognize Chandrashekar who did the math to figure out the critical mass that makes IA supernovae luminosity so highly predicable--and for whom the Chandra X-ray telescope was named for.
@albertconstantine5432
@albertconstantine5432 5 жыл бұрын
Knowing members of the Chandrashekar family, I can say that they are both immensely proud (and often engaged in the fields themselves), but also accustomed to this all-too-frequent lapse.
@WestOfEarth
@WestOfEarth 5 жыл бұрын
Matt has spoken about this before in previous videos.
@rationalmartian
@rationalmartian 5 жыл бұрын
Not too mention the Limit of his. The Chandrashekar limit on mass sizes, determining what will then later happen to the star.
@chrissearle23
@chrissearle23 3 жыл бұрын
This so very exciting.
@enterprisesoftwarearchitect
@enterprisesoftwarearchitect 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful show! I thought you had run out of subjects. I was sooo wrong. You have surpassed Gabe. Incredible feat!
@LeeGoGators
@LeeGoGators 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's fair to say the calculation based off the CMBR relies on more assumptions than that of Type 1a Supernovae.
@soheil527
@soheil527 4 жыл бұрын
there are several stars going supernova over and over again which the scientists cannot explain
@oliver_siegel
@oliver_siegel 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@BryanM61
@BryanM61 2 жыл бұрын
@@soheil527 Yes, the scientists can explain it. It's only one supernova, but 'gravitational lensing' from galaxies in between us and the supernova give the appearance that the supernova exists at a) different places at the same time, and b) at different times. In other words, we'll see the same single supernova perhaps several different times, in some cases years apart.
@butHomeisNowhere___
@butHomeisNowhere___ 5 жыл бұрын
Best part of the week! I love this channel
@victorjcano
@victorjcano 3 жыл бұрын
He does a remarkable job of explaining the topic. Thanks
@manskiptruck
@manskiptruck Жыл бұрын
This is great and exactly what I’m doing in my undergrad right now. I’m basically listening to my report, laid out much more nicely
@evaristegalois6282
@evaristegalois6282 5 жыл бұрын
*_Einstein's cosmological constant has joined the server_* *_Hubble's constant has joined the server_* *_Einstein's cosmological constant has left the server_*
@SrmthfgRockLee
@SrmthfgRockLee 5 жыл бұрын
xD
@quintecence
@quintecence 5 жыл бұрын
Just did a spit take.. not sure if I should get a life now or not 😂
@ObjectsInMotion
@ObjectsInMotion 5 жыл бұрын
*Dark energy has joined the server* *Einstein's cosmological constant has rejoined the server*
@garywilson3042
@garywilson3042 5 жыл бұрын
Evariste Galois newtons status set to _away_
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 5 жыл бұрын
*Microwave Cosmic Background has joined the server* *Microwave Cosmic Background:* SUP 😜 *Hubble's cosmological constant has left the server*
@michaelsommers2356
@michaelsommers2356 5 жыл бұрын
I really do wish you'd include links to the papers you cite.
@michaelsommers2356
@michaelsommers2356 4 жыл бұрын
@Sammy Smith I meant specifically the most recent papers.
@isaachess9356
@isaachess9356 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsommers2356 a list of a few related papers would be nice
@picpac2348
@picpac2348 5 жыл бұрын
I've just seen the Joe Scot's video on quantized inertia and it got me hooked. Please do a video on the subject. I'll do some reading in the meantime so I'm ready for your in depth suff when you get around to it.
@shahidafwan1102
@shahidafwan1102 5 жыл бұрын
Your lectures enter in one ear and go out from another
@edvolve
@edvolve 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you gave credit to Vesto Slipher, Hubble usually gets the credit for red shift measurement
@Cliff_P
@Cliff_P 5 жыл бұрын
Oh it's back! I thought the crisis was over, But I guess it's back again.....
@aspektx
@aspektx 5 жыл бұрын
But guess who's back... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/grhldbyLz9u8fYk.html
@PainterVierax
@PainterVierax 5 жыл бұрын
Like MM, We thought it was censored by the FCC again.
@quill444
@quill444 5 жыл бұрын
Trending Towards Uncertainty
@Maximus_Novin
@Maximus_Novin 5 жыл бұрын
What I love most about these shows is that it allows for understanding to be both mathematical and hypothetical! Allowing for the furtherment of... Spacetime...
@GiI11
@GiI11 5 жыл бұрын
This is such a great channel!
@ObjectsInMotion
@ObjectsInMotion 5 жыл бұрын
I finally know what he was trying to say 0:22! I was so lost, was it Uniform, was it University? Unibomber? Uniqlo? Who knew? Glad that mystery is finally solved.
@jovetj
@jovetj 5 жыл бұрын
Question everything.
@bljah123
@bljah123 4 жыл бұрын
Perplexed: if light from distant galaxies travels to us longer, that means they are older than the near ones. So if far away ones recede faster than near ones, doesn’t than follow that in the past they receded faster...?!
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness 3 жыл бұрын
which makes sense since we know the initial expansion was MUCH faster than it is now.
@Tomer-Barak
@Tomer-Barak 5 жыл бұрын
The cosmological constant is not constant. It seemed constant because we have only one/two data points when we describe the observable universe scale. There are dynamics in the observable universe scale, just as with any scale, and new forces, etc. All we can get are >effective< field theories. We should embrace it.
@stewitr
@stewitr 5 жыл бұрын
It amazes me that despite constant failure to find any dark matter/energy signal in any experiment, it's still firmly rooted in the mainstream as absolutely correct.
@BridgetMayAljasser
@BridgetMayAljasser 3 жыл бұрын
About 8 years ago, I told my husband dark matter was a lazy scientist's explanation. If something doesn't fit within their hypothesis, they make up crap without evidence rather than doing the hard work to find the truth.
@DorianLust
@DorianLust 5 жыл бұрын
Question: Does the Local equation assume it starts from a singularity? What if it didn't? How big would the initial universe need to be to make the two equations align?
@kirkdecker6228
@kirkdecker6228 5 жыл бұрын
The best channel, IMO, on KZfaq. Perhaps the whole universe is a vast fractal pattern operating with a Heisenberg uncertainty principle. Or it's a vast living organism. I always feel like I ate a ton of shrooms after watching these videos. Thanks for the great videos!!
@Kwisatz_HaderachXIII
@Kwisatz_HaderachXIII 2 жыл бұрын
🍄
@johnfarris6152
@johnfarris6152 5 жыл бұрын
PBS has always been the Unknown Soldier!
@kevinmakwana
@kevinmakwana 5 жыл бұрын
I love how this channel doesn't dumb things down!!
@ChaosKeep
@ChaosKeep 5 жыл бұрын
Gravity Waves - Nature of the Speed of Light, Dark Energy and Dark Matter - Musings of the most dangerous type - with only partial knowledge. Listening to Dr. Krauss on Penn’s Sunday School talking about gravity waves got me thinking. The fact that gravity waves have now been shown to exist, this seems to have some interesting implications to me. I admit that the following thoughts have probably been thought of by smarter minds than mine, especially since my degrees are in Geology and Planetary Science with a minor hybrided between Physics and Remote Sensing. However, in listening to this I was using the following hypothesis and was predicting what some of the possible reasons for the differences in H naught could come from, specifically Dark Energy not being constant. Gravity waves are the physical effect of the movement of mass through space-time. To me this may help explain the speed of light and the difficulty of reaching it. If a gravity wave is created every time a mass moves, and given that presence of a mass of matter will bend space-time, then moving matter not only should create gravity waves, but try to drag the frame or fabric of space-time with it. The faster a mass tries to move the more it drags on the frame or fabric of space-time. This drag then would act as a form of inertia that increases as velocity increases. This would explain why you need a nearly infinite amount of energy to accelerate a mass of matter to the speed of light. It also may explain the speed of light itself. Many experiments exist that demonstrate the duel nature of light, particle and wave. Classically, the mass of a photon of light is essentially zero. But what if it really isn’t? What if the mass of light is infinitely small, say one divided by a googleplex, with the result raised to the power of a googleplex. And it is the mass of a photon of light that limits its speed to the speed of light because of the gravitational frame drag inertia created by the moving light. IF true, then light, as it moves through the universe is attempting to drag the fabric of space time with it. With light literally moving through the universe in every direction, could light be responsible for stretching the fabric of space-time through a drag force? Would that mean that it is the frame drag of light that is what we call Dark Energy? As the fabric stretches, in all directions, then the light energy fills it out again, keeping the universal constant energy density. Conversely, we know that matter warps space time towards it. But we also know that we see gravity as being too weak. Could it be that the force of gravity is, in part, dissipated in fighting the frame drag expansion created by light? Could it be that Dark Matter is not an exotic form of matter, but the effect of gravity on the fabric of space-time? If true, then if we could minutely measure the amount of red shift due to expansion of the Universe, then it would seem that the amount of expansion, and hence the amount of red shift should differ for say the area around a star in intergalactic space, and stars orbiting close to a galactic center super massive black hole. This would seem to explain some, if not all of the difference as you would need to consider a variable of energy density between us and the object being measured to determine H naught.
@lololman
@lololman 5 жыл бұрын
"Speed of Dark" lol
@maestrosk
@maestrosk 4 жыл бұрын
Cosmology should distinguish between those two different statements: 1. "Redshift is proportional to distance". 2. "Further galaxies recede faster away from us." Statement 1 is an accurate, experimentally backed statement. Statement 2 needs a bunch of approximations from statement 1 to be made..... including that redshift is ONLY made of Doppler effect.
@michaelsommers2356
@michaelsommers2356 4 жыл бұрын
The cosmological redshift is not the same as the Doppler shift, or gravitational redshift.
@maxcovfefe
@maxcovfefe 5 жыл бұрын
A crisis in cosmology! Hold on! Saving to "watch later" playlist because I need to call some friends and get some beer for this!
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 5 жыл бұрын
how different would the inputs in the CMB modeling have to be to get a result from the other method? has anyone considered this approach?
@chmeee9562
@chmeee9562 5 жыл бұрын
That is a great question. The answer to that would give good insight on how sensitive each measurement is.
@cosmicmutant33
@cosmicmutant33 5 жыл бұрын
This universe could not contain the amount of information of this video so they had to compact and reupload it
@MorbusCQ
@MorbusCQ 5 жыл бұрын
Best series on KZfaq
@sylviapapp8812
@sylviapapp8812 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Matt !
@crsmith6226
@crsmith6226 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think you could ever do a video on “Iron Stars” which Isaac Arthur talked about as the final future of stars if protons don’t decay and the “Big Rip” doesn’t occur
@coopergates9680
@coopergates9680 5 жыл бұрын
They have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h81kqcVesK6Zdmg.html
@coopergates9680
@coopergates9680 5 жыл бұрын
@@c7042 This is for stellar remnants without enough mass to collapse to neutron stars.
@jamesdietert1998
@jamesdietert1998 5 жыл бұрын
Can you explain why we're so hung up on the notion that dark energy has remained constant since the release of the CMB? You mentioned the possibility of variable dark energy almost in passing, but considering how little we actually know about it, this seems like a rather simple theoretical explanation for the discrepancy in measurements.
@pseudorandomly
@pseudorandomly 5 жыл бұрын
+James Dietert Yes, it could be that dark energy is not constant, though that wouldn't be the simplest view. Arguably, that simplest view should hold absent observations that indicate otherwise. And, as this video points out, there are other possible explanations of the discrepancy. The goal is not simply to find *an* answer, but to find the *correct* answer. It may well turn out that dark energy really _is_ constant, and some other explanation obtains. Don't view it as being "hung up"; look at it as preferring the most conservative explanation.
@Darryl_Frost
@Darryl_Frost 5 жыл бұрын
I'm hung up on inventing new physics to make your model (sort of work), Dark energy, the energy that gets stronger the further away you are! ON what basis of reality is that based on?
@poshmark9807
@poshmark9807 5 жыл бұрын
this is just mind blowing
@Jolafunk
@Jolafunk 3 жыл бұрын
You are our every eye and ear to what our brians needs to understand
@Jolafunk
@Jolafunk 3 жыл бұрын
@paul w Unplug your ears
@Jolafunk
@Jolafunk 3 жыл бұрын
@paul w Hammer your computer! FLAT
@Jolafunk
@Jolafunk 3 жыл бұрын
@paul w Latest brain mainiac. I got lots of knowledge are you satisfied now? Calculate the largest mass that could produce a star?
@SupLuiKir
@SupLuiKir 5 жыл бұрын
If the Hubble Constant is the rate of expansion of the universe, then wouldn't it be evident that the Hubble Constant in the distant past would be significantly smaller then than it is now since the rate of expansion is accelerating? What if both values are correct?
@lunkel8108
@lunkel8108 5 жыл бұрын
Both values are the Hubble constant for the present day.
@dcsignal5241
@dcsignal5241 5 жыл бұрын
But aren't the measurements based on observations of objects as they were in the distant past?
@calebmatthews2026
@calebmatthews2026 5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.... Just wasn't able to articulate them lol.
@pseudorandomly
@pseudorandomly 5 жыл бұрын
@@dcsignal5241 "... based on observations of objects as they were in the distant past?" You're correct. The explanation is at 9:10 in this video. Essentially, you start from the conditions at the time of the CMB release and calculate forward to get the present-day Hubble constant. The Hubble constant was much _larger_ in the very early Universe than it is now; gravity spent several billion years slowing it down before dark energy began speeding it up. (If you're troubled by the Hubble "constant" being a changing value, note that many prefer to call it the Hubble _parameter_ instead.)
@SupLuiKir
@SupLuiKir 5 жыл бұрын
@@pseudorandomly I agree, 'parameter' is a far better term as far as linguistic specificity is concerned.
@dt28469
@dt28469 3 жыл бұрын
"The velocity part is relatively easy" Pun intended?
@sillywizard6220
@sillywizard6220 5 жыл бұрын
Sup? Thank you PBS and Dr. O’Dowd for another great episode of... ...Space Time!
@jameswebb8162
@jameswebb8162 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@TheExoplanetsChannel
@TheExoplanetsChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Just had a Déjà vu..
@johntate6537
@johntate6537 5 жыл бұрын
Again?
@Trias805
@Trias805 5 жыл бұрын
That's a glitch in the cosmological constant. It appears when cosmologists are changing something.
@MeadowBrook2000
@MeadowBrook2000 5 жыл бұрын
invariance of scale is the answer
@EscapeMCP
@EscapeMCP 5 жыл бұрын
I think it was a parallel universe brain thingy colliding with ours for a few minutes (of our time... it lasted millions of years in the other one).
@peterbonnema8913
@peterbonnema8913 5 жыл бұрын
You just violated T symmetry
@leyasep5919
@leyasep5919 5 жыл бұрын
Now we have to measure the speed of dark !
@RichardTruth123
@RichardTruth123 4 жыл бұрын
Anton Petrov recently reported on new studies showing that the "constant" is not constant at all
@MtnTow
@MtnTow 5 жыл бұрын
This may be the best expansion video available. Thank you. I feel that the expansion of space should change certain things like electron flow, mass. And a thought that just occurred to me is, could space at near the limit of expansion get weak and cause a tear in a gravity well? Also, i feel redshift interpretation is not completely uniformly accurate and if we can resolve that, we may solve a few issues.
@perfectwhine742
@perfectwhine742 4 жыл бұрын
It makes me sad that there's a universe where I'm a crackhead and my parents are crying, wondering where they went wrong
@birdmw
@birdmw 4 жыл бұрын
Is that this universe or a different one?
@orlandovazquez8694
@orlandovazquez8694 4 жыл бұрын
This solar system,let alone Earth,is a miniscule insignificant dot compared to the universe. Look up smbh, quasars,exoplanets etc.
@perfectwhine742
@perfectwhine742 4 жыл бұрын
@@birdmw lol XD
@perfectwhine742
@perfectwhine742 3 жыл бұрын
@fynes leigh Sounds like you need some friends Fynes!
@perfectwhine742
@perfectwhine742 3 жыл бұрын
@Frank Sears You're so clever!
@swbusby
@swbusby 5 жыл бұрын
I have much greater trust in the directly observed supernova measurements.
@chmeee9562
@chmeee9562 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the CMB number relies on many stacked calculations and assumptions. I agree the supernovas seem more robust.
@traviskelsey6674
@traviskelsey6674 5 жыл бұрын
It does seem there's less *physics* involved in that measurement. The fact the CMB measurement is so close is actually somewhat reassuring, I think. It suggests, at least through one metric, that the assumptions made about the nature of the CMB might not be utterly flawed. But there are two potential counters to this assumption: 1) Our understanding of the CMB is flawed and the closeness of the results in purely coincidental. 2) The assumptions and calculations involved in understanding the CMB are potentially biased by a need to conform to existing data and theories (in other words, they fudged the theories to make the numbers work, even if unintentionally). I don't think either of these two are highly likely, but they -- the latter in particular -- concern me a little. I'm no physicist. But Matt's explanation of how the CMB is understood and the h0 constant is calculated from it felt like they were making some risky assumptions that they are only so confident in because the math seems to work out.
@Biomirth
@Biomirth 5 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness we rely on experiment, math, and logic rather than trust and faith. \#bringontheenlightenment
@Ralwor
@Ralwor 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed the use of megamanX4 music in the background of this video and i compliment your choice.
@jaredmartin4607
@jaredmartin4607 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@jeremykaschmitter3502
@jeremykaschmitter3502 5 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the shirt you're wearing in this vid?
@pablosiles6885
@pablosiles6885 5 жыл бұрын
I want one too
@Sinnbad21
@Sinnbad21 5 жыл бұрын
I second that question!
@Ni999
@Ni999 5 жыл бұрын
Adult Galileo "Sup?" T-Shirt | AMNH Shop shop.amnh.org/adult-galileo-sup-t-shirt.html $24.99
@pablosiles6885
@pablosiles6885 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ni999 You truly are the King of Kings
@fantasick8880
@fantasick8880 5 жыл бұрын
Google.
@catharsis21
@catharsis21 5 жыл бұрын
It would seem that the "constant" would prefer to be a variable.
@BridgetMayAljasser
@BridgetMayAljasser 3 жыл бұрын
The only constant is change
@Bob-zx7io
@Bob-zx7io 5 жыл бұрын
I like listening to these vids because it make me feel smart, even though it's all over my head :-)
@ynntari2775
@ynntari2775 3 жыл бұрын
there can also be "an unknown event happened and interfered with the thing", rather than just "this event we know interacted with the thing differently than how we think it did"
@complex314i
@complex314i 4 жыл бұрын
Negative mass would be interesting. Personally, I really want tachyons to exist. That way the universe would have particles with imaginary mass.
@lastmanstanding5423
@lastmanstanding5423 5 жыл бұрын
wait wait wait... the universe was playing a sound when it was opaque...? that's soooo cooooool... _the song of the baby universe_ (cry?) nice...
@JgHaverty
@JgHaverty 4 жыл бұрын
They are called baryonic acoustic oscillations. Not particularly lovely to hear lol
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I love your show
@theklaus7436
@theklaus7436 3 жыл бұрын
The H0 is quite important! But I think James Webb might give one of these teams a little edge. Gravity waves might have the answer. Exiting times ahead of us.
@grokeffer6226
@grokeffer6226 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy these videos, but they make me feel dimmer than a brown dwarf, sometimes.
@Sinnbad21
@Sinnbad21 5 жыл бұрын
Grok Effer that’s dim af.... but I feel even dimmer.
@Scanlaid
@Scanlaid 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sinnbad21 black hole dense
@kenlieck7756
@kenlieck7756 5 жыл бұрын
Racist! Sizist! Comparative, um, luminance... ist!
@scotchfillet
@scotchfillet 5 жыл бұрын
So called intelligence pales into insignificance when compared to wisdom. Wisdom is a much more useful thing. You don't need intelligence to have wisdom.
@grokeffer6226
@grokeffer6226 5 жыл бұрын
A wise man once said... something... I forget. I wasn't really listening. Regardless, Joni Mitchell [who IS wise] said "We are Stardust." I'm not sure how that relates here, but there you have it. Thank You.
@AmoebaMan23
@AmoebaMan23 4 жыл бұрын
Let's be totally honest here: what are the odds that the accuracy on these competing calculations is just not as good as the scientists want to think? Especially with that second method, there must be so many variables baked in that I really struggle to believe a +/- 1% accuracy.
@michaelsommers2356
@michaelsommers2356 4 жыл бұрын
Read the relevant papers and point out their errors.
@soheil527
@soheil527 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsommers2356 there is a reason why we still have so many competing views because the scientists are at loggerheads whether their inferences and calculations are accurate. it is al hypothetical nothing else
@soheil527
@soheil527 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsommers2356 there are several stars going supernova over and over again which the scientists cannot explain
@michaelsommers2356
@michaelsommers2356 4 жыл бұрын
@@soheil527 Read the relevant papers and point out their errors. Be specific.
@irokosalei5133
@irokosalei5133 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsommers2356 wow you beleive in paper more then man? stupid!
@brianjohn3839
@brianjohn3839 4 жыл бұрын
Your blinding me with science!
@rayzorrayzor9000
@rayzorrayzor9000 5 жыл бұрын
09:14 "How do you get the Huuble Constant from all of this ?", i think that question overshadows the work that must have gone in to actually find out the answer deemed as "All of this" , i for one was "blown away" , by "All of this" , when he explained about the battle beween light and gravity it made me soooo thankfull that im alive in a time where information is just a "click" away ! ! !.
@moeharvard
@moeharvard 3 жыл бұрын
Another reason for the crisis in Cosmetology is that there aren't enough qualified Aestheticians
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 5 жыл бұрын
A red shifted photon has less energy than if it is not red shifted. Assume concervation of energy, where does this energy go? If i throw a ball strait up, Kinetic energy is converted to potential energy. If redshifting photons is converting kinetic energy to potential energy, what does this mean on a cosmic scale? And if there is no effective way to converr that potential energy back to kinetic energy, does that change our notion of conservation of energy in regards to the universe?
@WisdomVendor1
@WisdomVendor1 5 жыл бұрын
If you consider the photons in the direction of motion which would be blue shifted, then the total energy of the system is conserved.
@atlmyk
@atlmyk 5 жыл бұрын
I know enough to know I know nothing but I am going to guess the lost energy goes to the 'energy of the void' powering the expansion of the universe.
@fluffy_tail4365
@fluffy_tail4365 5 жыл бұрын
In the full formulation of General Relativity conservation of Energy is not absolute. After all time symmetry (The Noether version) is broken, meaning energy isn't conserved. In layman terms the energy is stolen by spacetime itself, similarly to EM fields; however, contrary to standard field is impossible to define a proper energy density for spacetime, due to the broken reference frame thing. This doesn't mean that the universe is broken in GR, simply you can't use energy conservation to solve equation of motion anymore and you have to rely on the full GR tensor magic. There is some more info here by actual physicists: motls.blogspot.com/2010/08/why-and-how-energy-is-not-conserved-in.html, physics.stackexchange.com/questions/35431/is-the-law-of-conservation-of-energy-still-valid
@skandragon586
@skandragon586 5 жыл бұрын
There was an episode on this... Basically on cosmological scales the conservation laws do not always hold because the size of the universe is not constant
@skandragon586
@skandragon586 5 жыл бұрын
@@WisdomVendor1 they are also redshifted from the expansion of space. When observed from far enough away even stars moving toward us are moving slower than the expansion
@jsmunroe
@jsmunroe 5 жыл бұрын
That background space image is an image of the space surrounding the star Rigel. I just realized that. Nice.
@FreiNrg
@FreiNrg 5 жыл бұрын
Cool story Bro, but Halton Arp has another theory, one which radio astronomy seems to confirm more than the expanding universe concept. That is the redshift of galaxies is proportional to the "age" of said galaxy or quasar. Quasars and galaxies have been seen linked via plasma channels (Birkeland currents) thanks to radio astronomy. These connected galaxy-quasar groups show that obviously the quasars we once thought were so far away are actually closer than we thought, and that it may be said these quasars were "birthed" by the galaxy its connected to through these plasma filaments. Check out Thunderbolts Project on KZfaq for videos relating to how astrophysics truly is in crisis as it flails about trying to create crazy objects and explanations for things using only gravity as the prime motive force in the universe.
@JennySimon206
@JennySimon206 5 жыл бұрын
The Primer Fields Experiments kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b6uAn9yavJPcd30.html
@meizhongbai
@meizhongbai 5 жыл бұрын
We expect other galaxies to be all moving away at exactly the same rate, but if our current model is wrong then we might observe slightly different rates. For example, if massive objects in space are free falling in 4 dimensional space (5 dimensional space-time) then depending on the mass and how close it was to other massive object(s) when it's mass became significant enough to fall away instead of fall towards another massive object, and many other potential factors, objects could be moving away from each other at slightly different rates. It is also possible that space isn't expanding then, and all massive objects are free falling in 5 dimensional space-time.
@revolution51
@revolution51 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that parsecs was just an average sexual encounter between two golfers.
@DragonsFrogs
@DragonsFrogs 4 жыл бұрын
revolutionpm 4/10
@stevenpdxedu
@stevenpdxedu 3 жыл бұрын
@@DragonsFrogs In my area the metric is bogysecs. Or 2√parsec X handicap + age.
@RLomoterenge
@RLomoterenge 3 жыл бұрын
Subpar sex
@faybrianhernandez2416
@faybrianhernandez2416 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@jacquesstoop2587
@jacquesstoop2587 3 жыл бұрын
MEGAPARSECS
@peterphil9686
@peterphil9686 5 жыл бұрын
That’s one of your best..,!
@MO-pn8ip
@MO-pn8ip 5 жыл бұрын
Hi here!!! I don’t actually comment...but am sooo amazed of ur channel (its z best )....but i would really like if u made a video about “fringe theory” ...am sooooo exited to see that (cuz obviously no one can do it better than u ).......am waitin ....peace!!
@MO-pn8ip
@MO-pn8ip 5 жыл бұрын
That theory is actually called ...”quantized inertia “!!!
@KantiDono
@KantiDono 5 жыл бұрын
What about a direct measurement of the Hubble Constant? I know that sounds silly at first glance, but it's not strictly impossible: In the last 40 some years the Voyager 1 space probe has been flying away from us, it should now be about 2 cm further away from us, due to the tiny sliver of space between us expanding during that time, than if space was not expanding. This is tiny on an astronomical scale, but a readily understandable and measurable distance. Though we know Voyager 1's position and velocity relatively well, all things considered, it's not nearly precise enough for that sort of measurement. But it should be possible to construct an experiment that would be capable of measuring the infinitesimal additional acceleration we would observe of a space probe flying away from us on a human timescale, and not only from analyzing million-year-old photons.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think the space expansion is measurable within a galaxy. Because gravity dominates on that scale.
@X3MgamePlays
@X3MgamePlays 5 жыл бұрын
I like your idea. But the Voyagers don't have that accurate measurement tools.
@robertmolldius8643
@robertmolldius8643 5 жыл бұрын
68 km/s/Mpc = 2cm/s/Ly. Voyager is not that far out.
@KantiDono
@KantiDono 5 жыл бұрын
@@robertmolldius8643 Not 2cm/s. 2cm _total_
@ivangirardirodrigues6452
@ivangirardirodrigues6452 5 жыл бұрын
what about h0 calculations by the gravitational waves?!!!!!
@trashman9948
@trashman9948 5 жыл бұрын
Gravitational waves would be accurate, but they are too difficult to measure. Hell, we only measured it the first time because 2 black holes collided. That doesn't happen often, and definitely not often enough to conduct research with.
@badlydrawnturtle8484
@badlydrawnturtle8484 5 жыл бұрын
They're working on it. Give it a decade or so.
@badlydrawnturtle8484
@badlydrawnturtle8484 5 жыл бұрын
@MIDBC1 Gravitational waves would be red-shifted in a similar manner to light waves.
@Xanoxis
@Xanoxis 5 жыл бұрын
@@badlydrawnturtle8484 How can you measure "redshift" of a spacetime itself?
@gigakoresh
@gigakoresh 5 жыл бұрын
@@Xanoxis If we have some way to estimate the original object's mass, we can use that to measure the expected gravitational wave wavelength against recorded one.
@Ethan-gb3zh
@Ethan-gb3zh 4 жыл бұрын
On the off chance that you see this, would you be interested in revisiting this topic with the recent reports from the CCHP regarding the tip of the red giant branch stars? I just had to do a report about the crisis, and I found their paper really interesting but I don't think I know enough to weigh in on its accuracy
@ATLJonathanH
@ATLJonathanH 5 жыл бұрын
I still watch this channel despite having 90% go over my head.
@jaimemaldonado4152
@jaimemaldonado4152 4 жыл бұрын
Dark energy is the fish trying to decifer how gravity affects tidal waves without yet knowing about the existence of water .
@soyounoat
@soyounoat 3 жыл бұрын
Pop Cosmologist: "80% of the universe is made of 'dark energy' and 'dark matter', and we don't know what it is - nor do we know the exact rate of it's expansion" "But we CAN describe the exact state of the universe at each fraction of a second after the big bang"
@capusvacans
@capusvacans 3 жыл бұрын
@lostman33 Yes, someone will be able to type the entire proof for all of that in a youtube comment. I mean, how complicated can it be, right? There is a reason why ppl study their entire life to figure out this stuff. You have 2 choices, you either join them, or you trust in the math they do, or you come up with something else, which of course you then also need to prove. I wish you good luck.
@capusvacans
@capusvacans 3 жыл бұрын
@lostman33 Are you seriously bringing up the "it's just a theory" nonsense? Really? Ppl must have explained to you 1000's of times what a "theory" means in science, so I won't bother reiterating that. You equate the terms hypothesis and theory, eventhough those things are completely different things in science. Also, even if it were all just based on a hypothesis (which it isn't), that would still not be proof of it being wrong. Everything we know started out as a hypothesis, and only when proven correct does it become a theory, or a part thereof. But considering that you bring up the non argument of "it's just a theory" i can assume that you have no scientific schooling. So please, go learn cosmology, and then disprove it. In your mind it should be easy, as it's just a theory, right?
@capusvacans
@capusvacans 3 жыл бұрын
@lostman33 Nope, you don't seek truth, you seem to dislike reality and are looking for another one. The world isn't one big conspiracy. And science, due to the millions of ppl involved from all different countries, cultures etc. is the one thing that we can actualy trust because it doesn't involve politics or monetary gain. Any scientist that makes up nonsense to fit a narrative will instantly get debunked by 1000's of others. And they don't use arguments like "it's just a theory", nope, they use maths, experimentation, observation etc. And the best of all is, if you really really want to know, you can check it all for yourself. Of course, this requires effort and study, and a willingness to ignore your "gut feelings". But yes, i know, it's much easier to just go with your gut, although this does ensure that the world won't make any sense to you. I honestly hope that you really go study in some scientific field so that you can behold the beauty of it all. (and nope, reading 2 articles and watching some stuff on youtube does not equate studying).
@DarthObscurity
@DarthObscurity 3 жыл бұрын
@lostman33 You are using a device, right now, that would not work if relativity were not correct. The very hardware it uses is based on the mathematics of the theory. "I am a truth seeker" Lmfao
@nik8099
@nik8099 3 жыл бұрын
@@capusvacans Well, you believe in an external objective reality that is predicated upon a linear materialist perspective. Scientists are just as ideological and dependent on funding as others. Paul Feyerabend realized that scientists were becoming like the religious.
@karlthetrader
@karlthetrader 5 жыл бұрын
hmmm, I love that channel even if I usually cannot follow anyway. this time I thought - what about the for me 'obvious' possibility that the hubble "constant" is changing over the long long time...? I was surprised that this possibility was not mentioned.
@fCauneau
@fCauneau 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting !! Maybe a presentation on the Janus Model and the last paper of authors on QM ? Seems to propose interesting facts to be confirmed in this context...
@bananabourbonaenima
@bananabourbonaenima 5 жыл бұрын
Could you explain the significance of the Hubble Ultra Deep Field?
@mullymloo
@mullymloo 5 жыл бұрын
????? Its basically a photo of very long exposure of very distant or very fait objects. The significance?? Well, you'd have to specify what you mean - specific to what.
@bananabourbonaenima
@bananabourbonaenima 5 жыл бұрын
@@mullymloo What does it mean that we see such developed galaxies relatively shortly after recombination? Is that specific enough for you?
@utkarshpathak9780
@utkarshpathak9780 5 жыл бұрын
@@bananabourbonaenima it think you told the significance of it in the reply anyway. Well, it helps fitting the time of epoch of recombination and reionization because we will come to know about the oldest of the structures in the universe from a deep field. My field is not cosmology so i don't a lot about it.
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 5 жыл бұрын
Why do cosmologists talk about the "moment" when the CMB was released, when the hotter denser regions of the universe must've taken longer to cool enough to release their CMB radiation?
@katzbird1
@katzbird1 5 жыл бұрын
Shawn Elliott According to Spergel et al (iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1086/377226/fulltext/), it took about 115,000 years for recombination to occur ("Thickness of surface of last scatter" on table 2). Although this seems like a long time for us and was 1/3-1/4 the age of the universe at the time, when looking back, that difference is negligible. The current estimate for the age of the universe is about 13.8 billion years. A difference of 115,000 years is only an error of 0.00083%. I'm sure that cosmologists take this into account. There are too many variables in these measurements to fit into a 20 minute video. But to the layperson, 115,000 years may as well be an instant.
@TheRABIDdude
@TheRABIDdude 4 жыл бұрын
Marc Katz so Shawn Elliot is right? Those red speckles in the CMB were actually released up to 115,000 years after the dark blue speckles? That's very shocking if so!
@elsenorcostaricence
@elsenorcostaricence 5 жыл бұрын
can you do an episode on the amplituhedron and why scientists are interested in understanding scattering in the first place? why are physicists so excited about the amplituhedron? big fan!!!!!!
@matthawkins4579
@matthawkins4579 2 жыл бұрын
I am no cosmologist but my money is on dark energy being the fly in the ointment, given that one of the possible sources of it is the expansion of space itself. Its interaction with the universe may have been substatialy less in the early, CMB era than it is now. Just my guess anyway.
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