The Cry Of The AURORA -- Last Footage Of The Classic Cruise Ship Before She Sank

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28 күн бұрын

Peter Knego paid a visit to the 1955-built passenger ship AURORA in Stockton on May 20, just three days before she mysteriously sank at her berth. The AURORA was built in 1955 as the WAPPEN VON HAMBURG for service between Hamburg and Helgoland. The first German liner built after World War Two, she went on to become the pioneering Greek cruise ship DELOS (and was even featured in the James Bond film "From Russia With Love"), the pioneering expedition cruise ship POLAR STAR (featured in "The Love Boats" book that inspired the TV show by Jeraldine Saunders) and PACIFIC STAR, the luxe mini-cruise ship XANADU, a floating expo ship EXPEX, the Christian Missionary ship FAITHFUL and the preserved KZfaq sensation AURORA. Her full story will be told in a forthcoming documentary called "Man Seeking Ship" by Robert James detailing her history and how she was acquired on Craig's List by entrepreneur Chris Willson, who spent fifteen years gradually restoring the ship to much of her former glory. Sadly, now it looks as though this cherished ship is now at the end of her days. Licensed music from Artlist: "Lullaby #3 in E Minor" by Ran Raiten. #aurora #manseekingship #classicship #oldship #wappenvonhamburg #delos #xanadu #faithful

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@tdbeltz2 25 күн бұрын

I just did a google search and did not realize the ship had recently been sold. I had been awaiting updates on the progress of the restoration and now I know why I haven't. Very sad.

@reaarayah6716 16 күн бұрын

The ship is now under water 🥲

@bobsch-gd6ze 13 күн бұрын

yes, been looking for more info and this morning she has sunk at her berth.....

@Kaidhicksii 16 күн бұрын

Listening to her metal creaking and frankly screaming louder than I've ever heard a ship scream before... My heart man... 💔😢

@bebeslife4519 24 күн бұрын

As a native Stockton citizen and an amateur boat/ship enthusiast, this really breaks my heart especially learning just recently the historical facts on this ship. I have passed this ship dozens of times going on small road trips or fishing on the levees nearby. I never knew that this ship had such a history!

@petersmith5783 26 күн бұрын

I was wondering why there hasn't been any updated videos of the work going on her

@mrslinarcos 26 күн бұрын

AURORA sounded as if it was screaming for help. Very sad this lovely ship has sunk, I'm glad you got to visit her, at least from the outside before she sank. 😥😥 Thank you for another video of a lost ship that we'll never forget.

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Thank you, Mrs. L.

@mrslinarcos 25 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinema you're very welcome

@CruiseLifestylenet 20 күн бұрын

So heartbreaking. Thank you, Peter, for all that you do in preserving maritime history - it is much appreciated by many.

@midshipcinema 19 күн бұрын

Thank you for your kind words and for watching this channel. :)

@daveleephoto 26 күн бұрын

So grateful for you, Peter. You truly carry on the legacy that Frank Braynard and William H. Miller established. You’re the most important maritime historian in the United States, maybe the world. This video really helps us to process the loss of this grand ship that has an important place in passenger shipping.

@midshipcinema 26 күн бұрын

Wow, Dave, you are always so kind but I'm truly humbled by your post here. Thank you -- I will continue to try and bring my viewers with me on my quests to document and preserve what is left of the se once glorious ships. :)

@daveleephoto 25 күн бұрын

@midshipcinema and you're certainly correct. Ships do have a soul. Every time I board Queen Mary in Long Beach I feel such a warm and loving energy as long as I'm on board. I honestly never want to go on land again.

@wowitskevin 26 күн бұрын

So sad - I had been following the restoration project for a while...

@doug2078 26 күн бұрын

Same here !

@karenharrington3757 25 күн бұрын

This is just so sad. I wondered why there have not been any updates on her over the last months. I just figured they had stopped working over the winter and that there would be an update soon. I certainly never thought this would be the update.

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

After all the hope, this has been the ultimate devastation.

@code4forlife 25 күн бұрын

This Is Truly Sad. Totally Agree With You That Ships Have A Soul.

@colinstewart6458 25 күн бұрын

Well what a month, this sad news and I’ve also been tracking the Bella Fortuna, former Song of Norway making her way through the Suez Canal and mostly likely destined for Alang. My very first cruise was on this ship and I fell in love with her! You are right Peter - ships do have a soul, they deliver us safe passage through storms and serve their owners well. We’ve seen so many classic ships scrapped over the past 20 years, with 911, SOLAS, Covid, the desire by most folk for balconies etc Times are hard and sad for ship enthusiasts 😕😕

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Thank you, Colin. Hard times, indeed.

@user-lf9yr2yy3z 25 күн бұрын

Oh Peter, such SAD news, indeed! Another one bites the dust....they're all going away, little by little. Very distressing news. Thank you for sharing and I applaud you for your constant and untiring efforts to document these grand old girls.

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Thank you, Andy. This really is so sad after all the work and time invested in her restoration. We who love old passenger ships are destined to be heartbroken over and over again.

@user-lv5tn5hx2n 26 күн бұрын

Thank you. Peter have been following this channel for a while and wondered what had happened. So sad to hear about the end of this beautiful old liner. Robert put so much effort into the restoration of this vessel. Cheers from Brisbane Australia: James

@midshipcinema 26 күн бұрын

Thanks for posting, James. I think this sad news will resonate all around the world for ship lovers like us.

@arronjones6985 23 күн бұрын

Such sad news. Iv watched all Chris' videos regarding this beautiful old cruise ship. Iv recently visited the queen Mary in longbeach from the uk and was hoping that one day the aurora would be a candidate for a visit. I feel like chris has put his heart and soul in to this old girl. My thoughts are with him and what ever he plans to do next. He should put a vieo up on his channel as im sure he will get an enormous amount of support and comfort from it. Peace ✌️

@JJMHigner 26 күн бұрын

So sad and such happenstance. I cannot see or understand what politics could have intervened to terribly complicate this project.But i'm sure that there will be an explanation at some point. All I know is that whatever has happened, the ship has been seemingly betrayed and she is showing it. I guess the shock comes from seeing so much progress being completed and in such a forward and practical and beautiful direction that that she is now all of a sudden sunk. It is a kick in the teeth quite frankly. I feel very sorry for chris who put in fifteen years of his life to this. This is more than a gut punch for him but more like a stab in the heart. Amazing Work as always Peter.

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

There is a world of people who don't care or even worse, who think ships are an eyesore. Battling them can be unsurmountable when taking on a project like this. I think Chris gave his all and then some to make this project happen.

@ItzBry_. 26 күн бұрын

RIP aurora

@geofflara1 26 күн бұрын

I just can’t believe this, I wore my 2018 AURORA shirt yesterday, and was wondering if and when the 2024 version will come out. Then I saw Chris’s post and I’m still so surprised at what’s happened. 😢

@midshipcinema 26 күн бұрын

Very bad day for classic ships. SO incredibly sad.

@Bruh56788 25 күн бұрын

Been a long time goal for me to visit this classic vessel and finally made the visit in 2023. Even then, I felt the restoration was a doomed effort but remained hopeful, sadly I was right but it didn’t have to be that way. Truly tragic!

@benwilson6145 26 күн бұрын

Thank you Peter, a neglected ship feels sad.

@midshipcinema 26 күн бұрын

Yes, especially when there was so much hope. I've known a lot of sad ships but this particular one really strikes at the core.

@fhwolthuis 26 күн бұрын

What a shame! I watched her when Gemma from Ship Happens channel visited her to help out as a volunteer 😢

@highwayman8180 25 күн бұрын

Me too! Surprised and saddened by this news.

@ChrisFrameOfficial 26 күн бұрын

Another fascinating insight into a remarkable ship. So sad to hear of her fate.

@midshipcinema 26 күн бұрын

Thanks, Chris. Welcome back from all of your wonderful QA adventures. :)

@ChrisFrameOfficial 24 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinema thank you my friend.

@berntd 25 күн бұрын

Chris Wilson apparently sold the ship last year? Is anything more known about why and to who?

@NorseNerdleMeister 26 күн бұрын

Very sad news, thanks for sharing. Hopefully the CGC Fir can continue to be preserved. I was stationed on the “new” CGC Fir built in 2003.

@midshipcinema 26 күн бұрын

FIR is a beauty. Hope she isn't tangled up in the situation but most likely, she will be forced out, too.

@dizzydevil547 26 күн бұрын

so shocked to hear about the aurora i sub to the restoration project channel but nothing had come up in my feeds about it this is the 1st time annything has ...such a sad loss of a historic ship and all that time and effort not to mention money that the owner had invested in restoring her! 😢😢

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Yes, a huge blow to the cause of passenger ship restoration. On the bright side, he shined a light on this little beauty and gave her some love in her final years.

@jeremy1350 26 күн бұрын

Hi Peter. I "get" what you have said here. She sounded like "I need help, I can't breathe." To me she looks just the right size, not too big and not too small, for a complete overhaul, to become a really nice floating Yacht, or small expedition ship, yes? I'm sad she sunk at berth. Will look forward to your upcoming videos and the documentary.

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Thank you, Jeremy. I agree that she would be a perfect yacht. Her lines are spectacular. As a cruise or expedition ship, her size, lack of balconies and all the regulations are prohibitive to return on the investment.

@MrJuvefrank 22 күн бұрын

That ship has a beautiful bow. If you're new to this planet, the front of a ship is the bow, the rear of a ship is the stern, the right hand side is the starboard side when you're facing the bow when you're on board, and the left hand side is the port side when you're facing the bow when you're on board.

@damianstellabott3613 26 күн бұрын

Weird. The tug next to her sank a few months ago too.

@IntrepidMilo 25 күн бұрын

This is very sad. It's such a shame to see the beautiful little ship sunk.

@Chios82100 25 күн бұрын

She looks like and reminds me of Aristotle Onassis's private yacht Christina 'O ... Very sad to see another historical ship that resembles and reminds us of better times in a better era fade into the ashes of history... Hopefully someone saves. She would make a wonderful private yacht..... Greetings from beautiful Greece 🇬🇷

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Greetings! Yes, she has a similar form to the beautiful CHRISTINA. I agree that she would make a wonderful yacht for a supremely wealthy person with good taste. We can only hope there is some oligarch out there who agrees. :)

@loualiberti4781 21 күн бұрын

Scary 😦!!

@miniatureshipyard 25 күн бұрын

This is very sad news indeed Peter 😢

@theTimHernandez 26 күн бұрын

you always seem to the at the right place a the right time or wrong place at the wrong time. as always, gald you had your camera with ya.

@midshipcinema 26 күн бұрын

Yes,, I've been called the Flying Dutchman for classic ships for good reason. Even my friend Lis felt something was awry that day. This one is very personal as I have followed this ship for so long and rejoiced in her recovery over the past fifteen or so years.

@theTimHernandez 26 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinema thanks. do you have a link handy for your other Aurora content on youtube?

@midshipcinema 26 күн бұрын

@@theTimHernandez kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pL11oN1jlrK6eI0.html

@theTimHernandez 26 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinema Thanks! It is crazy how you have all this old great content.

@tdbeltz2 25 күн бұрын

It is hard to believe with all the hard work that had gone into the ship, that it would just suddenly sink. I hope it was not intentional. I pray there might be some hope in raising her back up and fixing her.

@crissyb00 6 күн бұрын

Much work done. All of it cosmetic.. or most of it. All it takes is a through hull valve to surrender to corrosion, and it's all over. It's such a shame. She was unique, technically innovative for her time and so pretty.

@jamesbraun9842 9 күн бұрын

That "scream" is the sound of metal bending .

@LongdistanceRider22 25 күн бұрын

Heartbroken 💔

@crissyb00 6 күн бұрын

Poor girl finally gave up her fight to live. The previous owner put a valiant fight to save her. But it must of been a daunting task, and god knows how much the final cost would of been. Certainly more then even the richest few could manage.

@gc7820 26 күн бұрын

That screech sounds like metal scraping metal - the minesweeper moored outboard of it was already partially sunk (can see its wreck in newsclips of aurora sinking) so maybe aurora was scraping against that (mooring lines slackened a little and new owner not checked on them) and that’s worn a hole in her hull.

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Yes, there is probably a logical explanation for the creaking. She wasn't listing, so I think it was more the connection with the gangway in the wind. Plus, the minesweeper has a wooden hull but either way, the timing and mood made it easy to anthropomorphize the cries of the AURORA. This was the very first time I have felt that familiar sadness I have when visiting doomed ships while in her presence.

@aqua0lung 26 күн бұрын

I do get it man!...

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

You certainly do! :(

@ClydePaddler 26 күн бұрын

😢

@ShelterCats 26 күн бұрын

Very sad news.

@midshipcinema 26 күн бұрын

It is, my friend.

@tubefr71 20 күн бұрын

One of the first video of the Aurora « restoration » project was the restoration of the guardrails. I was surprised to see that I was the only one thinking it was literally like changing the curtains in a burning house. This whole project was a PR stunt from the beginning taking advantage of the gullible people. And let’s be frank, even in her prime, the Aurora was never that of a particular interest.

@midshipcinema 20 күн бұрын

It was definitely not a PR stunt but a well-intended effort that finally met an obstacle that it could not overcome. And, perhaps to you, the ship was not of particular interest, but to many around the world, it was of great interest. I can assure you that AURORA is the last of her type and was, until this event, an important link to the past.

@mctag5317 26 күн бұрын

It looks up on the bow, not trim. I guess there were no water sensors in the bilge or pumps just in case.

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Or no one present to read them, if there were.

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

For some 30 years, she has ridden a little high at the bow.

@mctag5317 25 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinema I saw an recent interview with Chris - he said they never left it unattended and had pumps at the ready. New owner probably didn't think. I'm wondering where the leak is?

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

@@mctag5317 I hope there will be more information as the story unfolds. Agreed that Chris would have never left the ship unattended.

@GeschichtenUndGedanken 26 күн бұрын

❤ That sounded like crying for someone or something. And it was heard. After decades of bringing people joy… To some it might sound strange but I am sure more than one person (that would be me) can imagine talking to a ship.

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Yes. I talk to ships all the time, especially the ones I like. There could certainly be worse things to do, lol. :)

@drscopeify 13 күн бұрын

Fresh water usually does well in preserving the metal a bit longer but nature always wins and is working against the ship 24/7. I wonder why someone in Germany has not had interest in the ship as they do not have that many museum ships for obvious reasons and this is the only one left of that ship builder as far as I know but I have not read up much on it.

@midshipcinema 13 күн бұрын

It will be interesting to learn what actually did sink her. A hole or leaking valve or general hull corrosion. In the meantime, the ship does have an active following in Germany and the ideal thing would have been for her to be placed atop a barge and transported to her original homeport of Hamburg. The two ships that replaced her have been recently scrapped and her original running mate disappeared decades ago. She is the last of her kind. Although it is unlikely anyone with the funds will step up and save her at this point (again, depends on her overall hull condition), she has survived many seemingly hopeless situations thus far. Thanks for posting.

@drscopeify 13 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinema Thank you for the comment that is great information. I think the same if someone has not saved her until now I rather doubt they will show up going forward but time will tell.

@funone8716 19 күн бұрын

It hasn't really sank sunk, it's just a sorta sink sank right now. Hopefully the next guy that buys it will get it more in ship shape. Ta ta

@midshipcinema 19 күн бұрын

Hah, well thanks for that! :)

@thechosenone9965 26 күн бұрын

I'm absolutely shocked. Do you think she can/will be saved? Also, I heard that chris wilson sold the ship, is that true?

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

From what I glean, Chris sold the ship in October of last year and I think the chances of her salvation are pretty nil but we can always hope.

@thechosenone9965 25 күн бұрын

@midshipcinema the fact that she sank in freshwater gives me some hope. praying that someone who actually wants to preserve this piece of history buys her and restores her.

@sccarguy8242 21 күн бұрын

Any idea who the new owner is/was ? I wonder what that sound you heard actually was, and did it have to do with the sinking ? Was she crying out for help, rather than pain ?

@midshipcinema 21 күн бұрын

No idea on either but hopefully more info will be available soon.

@MrJeep75 25 күн бұрын

Very sad

@russoley8995 25 күн бұрын

wow. sad what happen to the crew that was doing all the work on her ?

@Jorge7YT 16 күн бұрын

No way if the aurora from Subnautica

@jandoerlidoe3412 25 күн бұрын

restoring & preserving a historic ship is a never ending story of work & money investment...usual far beyond the means of an individual...the ending is sad, perhaps unavoidable ??

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

It is as you say. I think there was hope that an entity with the right funding would come along and take the restoration to the next level. Nonetheless, what was done kept the old girl around 15 years more and gave her a chance to be admired by people around the globe. Hugely devastating outcome but at least she has had a few moments of glory in recent years.

@clementgoetke2385 23 күн бұрын

the people doing the restoration were in way over their head i watched all there videos they did not have a clue

@MrDarcykampe 23 күн бұрын

No clue and no money. It was easy to see that this was going to be the end result.

@icezone5555 26 күн бұрын

This is very unfortunate news :(

@astereux4519 21 күн бұрын

What is the verdict then? Will she be scrapped or is it not known yet?

@midshipcinema 21 күн бұрын

It is not known yet but most likely she will be scrapped.

@tropicalblum 25 күн бұрын

Terribly sad news

@American_Jeeper 26 күн бұрын

She sank?????? What the hell? A KZfaq channel pops up, loads some videos that seem to have been shot a few years ago, and now she's gone. So what is her current disposition?

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Half sunk and waiting for the next step, which will likely be scrapping in place or being refloated and towed off for scrapping unless someone with a lot of money and passion steps in to save her and we all know what the chances of that are...

@American_Jeeper 25 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinema Peter, that makes me sick to my stomach. Another piece of history gone. Please do keep us informed of her disposition, as I can't find a thing about her current status, and I doubt Chris will post anything about her ever again.

@johnlunnun9769 26 күн бұрын

What a crying shame!😢😢😣😣

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Agreed.

@johnlunnun9769 25 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinema Very soon, in the not too distant future, there will be no more proper ships left! Oh for the teak decks, the sheer, the open wing bridge, the mid day ships bell, no theme park novelties (yuk), a proper cosy cabin, et el! Saw a photo not so long ago, which I would rather have not seen, my beautiful Saga Ruby driven up onto the beach ready for demolition!! 😣😣😢😢😖😖

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

@@johnlunnun9769 So true.

@alangurman3961 26 күн бұрын

The lost hours of all that work to date. What a pity.

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Yes.

@sotm6078 2 күн бұрын

There comes a time when all ships die!

@rubinbrown8142 12 күн бұрын

What happened to the guy that was fixing it up, he dissappear?

@midshipcinema 12 күн бұрын

He sold her in October.

@thelastbaronweeren5549 11 күн бұрын

Did he run out of cash, lose interest? Kinda weird when he claimed to be so dedicated to the restoration.

@midshipcinema 10 күн бұрын

@@thelastbaronweeren5549 I can't speak for him. I think there were a number of reasons and am sure he will provide them at some point.

@michaelhilber8284 21 күн бұрын

Sounds like Whale Vocalizations alright.

@fhwolthuis 26 күн бұрын

What a shame! 😢

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

Agreed.

@darploin5071 26 күн бұрын

Did Chris Wilson pass away hope not

@midshipcinema 26 күн бұрын

No but he sold the ship several months ago.

@darploin5071 26 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinema No wonder I haven't seen any uploads from him glad he's still alive you must be hard brokens Is to the M.V. Aurora

@midshipcinema 26 күн бұрын

@@darploin5071 Yes, gutted. Thanks.

@pedrozatravel Күн бұрын

It is sad end to the story

@billeldon 22 күн бұрын

Sank. Or has sunk. But not has sank.

@midshipcinema 22 күн бұрын

Thank you. Duly noted. :)

@michaelhilber8284 25 күн бұрын

"THE END" is right!

@bportwig5203 25 күн бұрын

to be fair she is not sunk - rather down by the stern and leaking oil - we have a similar preserved naval ship back home that is lying half sunk at her moorings since 2021 and yes would seem no hope for her either - the big u has been in philly far longer than she ever sailed the seas - if ever a ship should be scrapped the big u should have been in the history files by now !

@midshipcinema 22 күн бұрын

She's settled on the bottom, so, yes, she is sunk, or, if you prefer, partially sunk.

@michaelhoran407 24 күн бұрын

Tow her where exactly to be scrapped by who? It was abandonment which caused her to sink in a wildlife estuary. Other notable examples of abandonment of ships include the SS United States , the San Francisco Bay Southern Pacific Railroad ferry boats , and the 77 Elco World War 2 torpedo boats. The latter were all burned in the Philippines by the U.S. Navy. They had thin plywood hulls fastened with millions of screws.😮

@midshipcinema 22 күн бұрын

Well, they towed the MAZAPETA off for scrap locally, so wherever she went, perhaps. If they cannot find a place in the Delta or Bay Area, then the irony is that she would probably be dry docked at BAE in San Francisco, have her hull secured, and get towed off to Brownsville like the recent ships in the MARAD fleet at Suisuin Bay. Also, the UNITED STATES is not abandoned. Forlorn and in distress, perhaps, but not abandoned.

@johnclamshellsp1969 20 күн бұрын

Good Bye Aurora, you will be missed.

@VideoServicesVB 22 күн бұрын

You all didn't really think that 1 guy with a grinder was going to restore this ship?

@tonyarsenault4256 21 күн бұрын

There is 100% / Zero Chance anyone will purchase this ship for restoration. This vessel was built in Germany and sailed under foreign flags. Geez we have the Blue Ribbon award winner the USS United States and it sits rotting away in port at Philadelphia PA ! ! !

@midshipcinema 20 күн бұрын

The SSUS is about 25 times larger than this ship, for one. Her restoration is a much larger and more expensive project. I think we are all on the same page that a restoration is unlikely but at some point someone thought she would make a good yacht and perhaps someone might think so again.

@jdslyman1720 2 күн бұрын

I'm happy that the Queen Mary is getting restoration work and new paint, wood refinishing, LED lighting, etc, ever since Long Beach regained full control of her and is not going anywhere. The QE2 is also in good condition in the Middle East, as is also the Rotterdam. Keep in mind that all those ships still have their interiors as well. The Big U, I hate to say it, is a lost cause unless someone comes forward with a ton of money and redoes the interior and removes the rust. The SSUS Conservancy wants to eventually move her somewhere else, because they are in a nasty legal battle over dock fees.

@TheBirdFlu666 25 күн бұрын

Rust in pieces.....

@kiowa1508 22 күн бұрын

I understand saving assets of TRUE historical value (this wasn’t one)…but anyone who donated money to the prior owner’s “restoration” of this hulk should’ve just flushed it down the toilet and saved on the postage.

@midshipcinema 22 күн бұрын

Feel better now?

@kiowa1508 22 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinema Yes frankly, I do. The same situation is happening now (and has been for years) with the SS United States. Individuals, foundations, Gibbs’ granddaughter, and yes…taxpayers have been pouring money…lots of it…into this worthless cause of finding a new use for this now-useless ship. It will NEVER sail again…and it will NEVER become a profitable venture in any other form. It should either be scrapped and it’s steel used to build modern infrastructure, or…towed out to the Atlantic and sunk as a habitat for marine life. The latter would be an honorable burial for what…in 1952…was a marine engineering achievement. As a retired financial guy, I absolutely hate seeing money wasted on impractical “likely to fail” projects…money that can be spent to better humanity. We need to pick our battles carefully. Question…who’s going to foot the bill to remove that hulk from the mud? Seriously. Please, PLEASE don’t tell me it won’t be CA taxpayers.

@kiowa1508 20 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinemawhy did you delete my comment? Afraid to debate the facts?

@midshipcinema 20 күн бұрын

@@kiowa1508 I'm happy to host civilized dissenting opinions but not when they are with malicious intent or just to boost the ego of the poster. Real facts are welcome but your uninformed opinion about the historic merits of the ship are mean spirited and clueless. Trolls need not apply here.

@kiowa1508 20 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinema BTW…do you not have any concern about who will pay to haul the Aurora out of the mud? Sometimes dissenting voices are necessary to temper the romanticism of preserving history. Much needs to be saved (I live near Valley Forge and wish many more artifacts from our nation’s founding were with us), but it needs to be balanced with common sense. You certainly can agree with that…right?

@SkyPilot54 22 күн бұрын

Arrest the owners , year in prison for ignorance

@midshipcinema 22 күн бұрын

Maybe you should wait until there is more information on exactly what happened before you make remarks like that.

@charleyfrancis8671 21 күн бұрын

Oh come on... That ship does not meet the definition of ocean liner. But seriously folks, that is just a average looking small ship. There have been some truly beautiful ships that in the end were beached to meet their fate with the Breakers. It's history is meh at best. The sad part is not that she sunk, the sad part is she wasn't recycled.

@midshipcinema 20 күн бұрын

I've been on that beach nine times salvaging items from some of those old beauties. Just because AURORA doesn't meet your standards of "beautiful" doesn't mean we all have to wish her gone. And completely disagree on her history. She has had quite a few milestones in her long career and there are no ships left like her. In a better world she would be saved.

@charleyfrancis8671 15 күн бұрын

@@midshipcinema Put your money where your mouth is and step up and save the ship. It really is that simple.

@midshipcinema 15 күн бұрын

@@charleyfrancis8671 OK, thanks so much.

@crissyb00 6 күн бұрын

To say her history is "meh" is lame, and misinformed. No she was not a great ocean liner (like the Queen Mary, that is currently being allowed to rot) But she does have history of note. She was also a ground breaker with her propulsion systems, a very modern ship of her time. As the OP has said many times, she could of been a magnificent vessel again, for someone with way to much money to spare.

@jdslyman1720 2 күн бұрын

@@crissyb00The Queen Mary is not being allowed to rot any longer. Long Beach has put millions (from the Tideland fund, which is from Port fees and the drilling of oil and gas, so no taxpayer money) as well as fees from Carnival's terminal next door into her and she looks better now than she did a couple years ago. Is she perfect? Heck no. It is going to take a long time to repair and replace what is broken on a ship that is almost 100 years old. It can be done, it just takes time. The same could be said with Ford and Michigan Central Station. That place was coming apart and now it's been mostly restored.

@sailorman8590 25 күн бұрын

This was likely an insurance job….

@midshipcinema 25 күн бұрын

One must have insurance for an insurance job. I doubt that insurance was even possible for her situation. Best to not make assumptions until there are more facts available.

@fergman300 22 күн бұрын

They must be done milking all the donations from the community...time to bail out, and hand it over to the Tax payers to clean up. While they laugh all the way to the bank. Well played....

@midshipcinema 22 күн бұрын

You have no idea who or what you are talking about.