The Culture War is No Sideshow; it's a Fight for Western Civilisation

The Culture War is No Sideshow; it's a Fight for Western Civilisation - Prof. Eric Kaufmann

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"Of all the people claiming to wage a war on wokery, Professor Eric Kaufmann has arguably gone the furthest - by setting up an academic faculty dedicated to the pursuit." (Telegraph). On this week's #NCFWhittle, Prof. Kaufmann discusses his new course: “Woke: the Origins, Dynamics and Implications of an Elite Ideology”
"Following a 20-year career at London’s Birkbeck University - of which he says the past five years involved multiple “Twitter mobbings” and investigations with “zero credibility” due to his views - its former head of politics last week announced the launch of the brand new Centre for Heterodox Social Science (CHSS), where freedom of expression won’t be “distorted by ideology”, as he believes is the now the case on campuses across the UK.
"Based at the University of Buckingham, its first course, “Woke: the Origins, Dynamics and Implications of an Elite Ideology”, will launch as a 15-week online programme open to all in January, with a Master’s degree to follow in September. Access to the course materials will cost £80 (rising to £480 for students who want a 90-minute seminar with Prof Kaufmann), with topics to include the origins of liberalism, the rise of “cultural socialism” in the 1960s, and the “public opinion dynamics” driving groups that “support woke ideas”, such as “putting pressure on JK Rowling’s publisher to drop her”.
"The Master’s will focus on “the intersection between the woke left and the populist right” [charged at standard UK university fee levels]. (Telegraph: www.telegraph.co.uk/education...)
For more info on Eric Kaufmann's course please see: www.buckingham.ac.uk/courses/...
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@RalphOK 5 ай бұрын

All of this misses the important issue: the English race is seeing its culture and race dissolved in favour of foreign races and cultures. What we (English people) need to turn our attention to is protecting our race and culture.

@marwar819 5 ай бұрын

While I agree that immigration needs to stop because of the severe destructiveness it brings to to countries and culture, this is a very racism statement.

@RichardEnglander 5 ай бұрын

Yes! And there have been great efforts to make sure that the English never act in such a way, all other groups are encouraged to do so and celebrated for advocating for their group interests. We are told it is evil when we do it and because we are nice we listen. We have been too nice.

@evolassunglasses4673 5 ай бұрын

White people need to become revolutionary.

@RalphOK 5 ай бұрын

@@RichardEnglander This is the result of a feminised society.

@dominochappin 5 ай бұрын

@@RichardEnglandertime to stop virtue signalling.

@gee4947 5 ай бұрын

I was born a bleeding heart liberal, but then I had a family, so I had to grow up! Perhaps that's what most of these people are missing - real relationships, real parenthood, real jobs, real work, real responsiblities. But the ideology has ruined that for them - No meaningful life, just zombiehood!

@janewest2845 5 ай бұрын

Whats 'real parenthood'?

@aerialpunk 5 ай бұрын

Maybe they mean having actual human children instead of a bunch of cats & dogs 😅

@catiapb1 4 ай бұрын

@@janewest2845 Parents that actually educate the kids instead of using screens to babysit them, that know that a child needs discipline and rules and not anarchy, that know they are parents and not the child best friend.

@RosemaryDrone-zy2eh 3 ай бұрын

My sister is a die-hard leftist. We are old now; late sixties, and her beliefs are opposite to how she lives. I just can't with these people.

@prboddington 5 ай бұрын

The problem with universities not simply pursuing truth goes even further. Reviewers' comments on journal article submissions frequently demonstrate that the reviewer will question and reject. papers on the basis that they disagree with them - or require that it's re-written according to a totally different framework according to their preferences and viewpoint, rather than simply assessing them for the robustness of methods, findings, discussion, etc. It's worse in some disciplines than in others. So much of what is published is pedestrian repetition of same old same old. I have colleagues who are excellent researchers and admired as leaders in their field, with piles of unpublished work rejected, rejected, rejected, while we have to sit and watch pedestrian boring work published in the same journals. Universities are shot.

@steveguse4481 5 ай бұрын

The almighty Gatekeepers are there to ensure humanity does not progress beyond their control.

@Je-suis-en-minorite 5 ай бұрын

For too many years “woke” has been debated. It’s time now for ACTION and CHANGE. The Local Authority that i reside in is so WOKE it’s cringe.

@JohnSmith-su3ze 5 ай бұрын

No-one actually wants Woke. Everyone hates it

@marwar819 5 ай бұрын

Fighting woke on a large scale, very exciting. Should be a free course.

@gee4947 5 ай бұрын

It's a good seed! 👍

@TheOriginalJAX 5 ай бұрын

Nothing in life is free, for it to be free for you someone else has to fit the bill which will be the taxpayer of this institution and it's financial contributors. Why should they pay for your education?

@stoicsociety247 5 ай бұрын

If we pay, and it becomes highly profitable then more courses will follow and the knowledge with spread. . We need to support these endeavors if we can.

@esthermarcen7587 5 ай бұрын

is free, " This NCF Locals event is FREE of charge" . it says on the top of the comment section on here.

@Arran1994 5 ай бұрын

Funded by who exactly? The woke infested government?

@ianlawrie919 5 ай бұрын

Invigorating interview, fascinating that Woke is officially a thing to be dissected 👍👏👌

@JohnSmith-su3ze 5 ай бұрын

Well of course it is lol Its literally destroying our society

@jameswhyte5094 5 ай бұрын

Good values are like super powers. They help you AND everyone around you. Some good values that help you in life are: responsibility, wisdom, pertinence, courage, optimism and kindness. Wokeness is basically these values inverted to vices. Instead of helping you AND everyone around you, it hinders you and everyone else. Responsibility: taking ownership of the situation. Wokeness teaches it is always someones else's fault and you are a victim. Wisdom: seek knowledge, truth, experience and think from first principles. Wokeness teaches you to be emotional and reject facts. Pertinence: taking a long term view rather than a short term view. Wokeness teaches you to ignore the long term effects and focus on your feels now. Courage: dealing with tough situations with resilience. Wokeness teaches you that you are weak and a victim. Optimism: Staying open to new opportunities. Wokeness again teaches you to be pessimistic and you have no agency. Kindness: Helping others in their journeys. Wokeness is the opposite of tolerance for people with a different view.

@evolassunglasses4673 5 ай бұрын

Culture is downstream from ethnicity and race.

@ValTwineDeaner 5 ай бұрын

You've absolutely hit the nail on the head

@daviocampi6951 5 ай бұрын

Well said. 👏

@johart9994 5 ай бұрын

I am doing this course at the moment and it is very good. It has really helped me bring many of the themes together and understand woke more fully.

@craxd1 5 ай бұрын

Don't forget Hillsdale College, here, in the US. They can do what they do because they don't accept government funding.

@keithawhosoever5384 5 ай бұрын

Make this course compulsory for all UK schools ❗ Once the students have learnt the ABC's , 2 plus two's and the not dropping litter on school playground and streets and parks 😊 ✝️🇬🇧

@stevemcmahon100 5 ай бұрын

Fantastic stuff as always, and thank you very, very much for posting these videos.

@bill8784 5 ай бұрын

Brilliant interview with excellent interviewer and interviewee. We should all be so grateful for people like them in these testing (understatement) times.

@Nirvana7734 4 ай бұрын

I like Eric's choice of phrase when he said that the "Woke" have made race "sacred." I, like Eric, am a trained social scientist, and for decades I have been pointing out to people and questioning why it's more acceptable to make inferences about people based on, for example, country of origin, hair colour, eye colour, height, build, but that making any inference about a person based on the amount of melanin in someone's skin (i.e., skin colour) is taboo. Of course, in more recent years, some of the other categories that I've mentioned, such as build, HAVE become more taboo. Ultimately, as I'm sure most of you reading this will agree, we need to evaluate people based on their behaviour and merit, not pre-judge people based on certain immutable characteristics. This elementary statement is what the Woke have ironically inverted in their quest to equalize outcomes for various groups, and this is definitely not to the benefit of our societies as a whole.

@georgewarner5496 5 ай бұрын

When I was a young schoolboy a group of Christians called the Gideons visited our school and gave us free copies of the New Testament. Perhaps an anti-woke army can visit schools, wait at the gates and give anti-woke training manuals to the kids as they leave school : A compact book of wisdom, small enough for kids to keep in their rucksacks and for mothers to keep in their handbags.

@jenniferbate9682 5 ай бұрын

The Gideon’s have now been renamed by the woke society!

@grannyannie2948 5 ай бұрын

There are books that do that on different topics I bought some for children for Christmas. Ian Plimers, published his Little Green Book, on the truth about climate change in three versions, one for primary aged kids, another for young teens, and an adult version ofcourse. Another is, We Do Lockdown, a picture book mocking lockdowns, at a comprehension level of a five year old.

@ManuelBTC21 5 ай бұрын

Alternative title: How to play chess with pigeons.

@kkk-yj8re 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, but we westerns still have to learn our culture also thru the prism of wokeism as an opposite of us, or as a dark part of us

@user-sq9sw7no2l 5 ай бұрын

What’s the role of Cluster B personalities? A ton of narcissists in the woke movement.

@Stormlucy111 5 ай бұрын

They want you to shut up because any dissenting voices show that their precious "truth" is not held as truth by the majority. So by silencing the dissenters it appears as if they are in majority.

@philiphumphrey1548 5 ай бұрын

I think it's also the the case of the emperor's new clothes. They can't stand people speaking because 5 seconds worth of rational analysis completely demolishes their ideas

@grannyannie2948 5 ай бұрын

Revolution only requires 10% of the population.

@KeepingTheIronThroneWarm 5 ай бұрын

What a silver lining in a dark cloud. I fear, however, that lip service is not enough. You need to rise up. Rise up. Rise up. Rise up.

@alexanderweber288 5 ай бұрын

Excellent talk, thank you both

@GFRESH636 4 ай бұрын

As an immigrant I will say this. There are 3 problems. 1) Multiculturism, multi systemism (where you bring systems into the country that will not mix with the local systems, diversity thereby not being a strength, assimilation not required), 2) the government systems, checks and balances are broken (for example a PM can remain in office indefinitely, 3) Liberalism needs to be channeled into a productive future. The green economy and going broke as a result is not sustainable. We should be focusing on not solving climate issues by buying more things with more money we don't have.

@dellacrean3296 5 ай бұрын

Could the rise in "woke" be associated with the availability of further education to people whose academic and intellectual ability are lower than what was required before "new labour"? Did the monetarism so enthusiastically pursued by Margaret Thatcher also play its part in the erosion of academic excellence in favour of profit? This is not meant to insult anyone, but for me these are genuine question.

@sandpiper9288 5 ай бұрын

I think it was a long term plan that began over 100 years ago. The ECHR sealed everyone's fate.

@dellacrean3296 5 ай бұрын

Interesting. What do you see as the catalyst 100 years ago?

@grannyannie2948 5 ай бұрын

@@DailyMilkToastAnd to go back a step, when women started voting in large numbers, 124 years ago in my country.

@grannyannie2948 5 ай бұрын

@@sandpiper9288I'm curious what event you mean?

@sandpiper9288 5 ай бұрын

@@grannyannie2948 The destruction of the West.

@daheikkinen 5 ай бұрын

You need something akin to Hillsdale College in the UK. America’s premier non-woke college. Completely private. No DEI mandates.

@sandpiper9288 5 ай бұрын

Sounds like a great idea now that Harvard made itself look like complete idiots.

@margueritespringer3687 2 ай бұрын

I agree Peter. Your guest has an agreeable positive cheerful demeanor. Thank you for the work you gentlemen are doing.

@petebaumbach7944 3 ай бұрын

A voice of reason ... thank you, Pete Baumbach

@SevenAllTheMarbles 19 күн бұрын

Woke-prevention should become a staple of childrens' education. Resisting the allure of fascistic self-righteousness is an age-old, fundamental issue of humanity.

@aerialpunk 5 ай бұрын

Very cool! Hopefully this will help some people wake ul a bit, and others be able to better articulate these issues and work against them.

@testerbend9473 5 ай бұрын

This sounds like my course

@stellahubbard4050 5 ай бұрын

Keep going Eric, Matt , Douglas Neil etc 👏

@earlanderson4002 5 ай бұрын

When you get that invitation by email from "Human Resources," the best policy is to delete it and DO NOT APPEAR. The feminists in HR don't actually have the legal power that they pretend to have. A decent college president would reduce them back to their original level as a "Personnel Department" whose function is to process hiring decisions made by the faculty.

@darev6780 5 ай бұрын

It's a fair analysis that the majority of people are fed up with Woke lunacy.

@philiphumphrey1548 5 ай бұрын

Difficult to see how you can have a course on woke when woke is largely emotionally driven, incoherent, often self contradictory and hardly the product of the greatest minds on the planet. It may be more fruitful to study the people behind it and what really makes them tick. And why so many intelligent people are either taken in or too cowed to speak out.

@eyeofrage7025 Ай бұрын

Thank you for your efforts, very informative

@TheSeydlitz 5 ай бұрын

Imagine Lee J. Cobb wins at the end of '12 Angry Men'. That's the sort of world this bloke wants to live in.

@Chris-hq7nl 5 ай бұрын

Outstanding

@briandelorme6689 5 ай бұрын

I have had enough. I will stay quiet no longer. Unfortunately we may have waited too long.

@elleelaine 5 ай бұрын

I can't wait to begin my course.

@SuperBlinding 5 ай бұрын

Great Conversation.

@simondavies5444 5 ай бұрын

If someone tells you the “culture war” isn’t important or isn’t real, you know they’re misleading you and have an agenda. Anything that helps against them and their desire to destroy European culture, heritage and history is to be applauded.

@tashhashimi9483 4 ай бұрын

I remember watching Eric Kauffman’s interview almost 20 years ago!

@daviocampi6951 5 ай бұрын

Great guest to have on the programme very knowledgeable about the current times and thank God he has appeared to analyze the woes of woke idealogy, which is extremism against sound doctrine and decent culture.

@rebekahshantz569 4 ай бұрын

In the media we constantly hear that that we are in dire need of doctors, tradespeople etc, our population is aging and that our own birth rate is falling dramatically. Of course no one can complain about immigration under these circumstances.

@the_forbinproject2777 5 ай бұрын

best way to preserve the Enlgish is granchildren. Now you know what woke is up to .

@Knighted357 5 ай бұрын

I hope come to Uk. I will advise people to take the course.

@b.dangerfield6499 5 ай бұрын

I want to do this course… unfortunately woke ideology has prevented me from working, so I have no money to spend on this course.

@benmarr352 17 күн бұрын

He lectures at the only genuinely forward thinking University I am aware of in the UK (It was 35 years ago and I beleiev still is now). Send your kids there, it also has two year courses that do away with the ludicrous long summer holidays sononlyntwo years of accomodation and subsistence to pay for.

@Gabriel-lm7jw 4 ай бұрын

It’s a start!

@gram440a 5 ай бұрын

It's good to hear from someone who realizes the problem didn't just start 5 years ago, for a change.

@lisaanderson5747 5 ай бұрын

Pandemic? What pandemic?

@grannyannie2948 5 ай бұрын

LoL my thought to.

@rossriver75yukon27 4 ай бұрын

Canada’s problem with progressives is more than just the introduction of multiculturalism in 1970. There’s no national pride and no cognissance of identity. There’s the passivity problem as well. And maybe just selfishness ( my own life is all that counts). Maybe the same with Australia which seems to be keeping pace with Canada on wokeness. I don’t know which place is worse.

@FindThisArtist 5 ай бұрын

Maybe they'll start with the head of the snake. Talk about the I.B.S, I.M.F, W.H.O, U.N, W.E.F, C.I.A, M.I.5, MOSSAD, Silicon Valley etc. Maybe they'll charge you 9 K a year [charged at standard UK university fee levels]. I doubt it, but maybe. Cheapest and best bet, as well as our greatest hope, would be citizen journos. Oh, and common sense i almost forgot.

@awf6554 5 ай бұрын

Sounds awesome. Free tinfoil hats for all students.

@mrror8933 5 ай бұрын

It doesn't take a genius to notice that it is actually the Muslim Brotherhood that has infiltrated the politics and institutions of the UK. Your stuff, on the other hand, is too far-fetched and far less plausible.

@FindThisArtist 5 ай бұрын

@@awf6554ooooft right in the feels

@simchalebovitch6944 5 ай бұрын

To be Woke is to lose ones moral compass.

@Eellogofusciouhipoppokunuri0us 7 күн бұрын

Be good to get this out as a free Khan academy course or what have you. The quicker the better and the wider the scope the better. I realize under other circumstances, charging would be better. Maybe a charitable funded series? If the goal is to get this out asap, free would be good. I’m taking a double coarse load this fall; both a degree and a certification and I need something like this pronto as the university is in full on social justice mania. Recently, I’ve written two essays critiquing CSJ but I need more education to defend myself and still maintain my student status. Interestingly with my two recent essays critiquing CSJ, II received an A plus. Yet no comment/evaluation from the professors. Either they don’t want a fight and gave me the mark to shut me up or they agree with my arguments. The course assignments made me quite ill as I couldn’t stomach BSing just to pass.

@bobross6802 4 ай бұрын

If I didn't know better, I would think that there is a greater covert force trying to fulfill an agenda ....

@colinread1159 5 ай бұрын

👍👍👍

@patriciapatricia9040 5 ай бұрын

Hillsdale college offers free online courses.

@Tony-ol4bt 5 ай бұрын

How do you sign up for the course?

@user-ts4rd7sv5n 5 ай бұрын

They tell you during the programme.

@ReasonAboveEverything 5 ай бұрын

Nice

@Vintagevanessa99 5 ай бұрын

We haven't got 5 years though. We can't play chess with the country

@Charlotte-vp2fu 5 ай бұрын

Perhaps someone should mention that islam is all about destroying other cultures and replace them with...eh, .islam. Not to mention taking over all the territory. And this is why Sadiq Khan is such a great political figure.

@butterflybeatles 5 ай бұрын

If that is what you purport then what is wrong with replacing something rotten with something good?

@Charlotte-vp2fu 5 ай бұрын

Are you saying that The West is rotten and islam is "something good"? Do you have a brain?@@butterflybeatles

@grannyannie2948 5 ай бұрын

@@getweyetgetmadgetorganizedAnd yet they are certainly close allies. I once heard Douglas Murray use the biblical quote to describe it. The who're of Babylon rides on the beasts back.

@crisafenehielm7777 5 ай бұрын

interesting!

@SN-jh3bb 4 ай бұрын

Without a good underanding of the core of all people personality disorder when speaking of those woke..the why will forever alude you

@steveh7823 3 ай бұрын

We need de-programming tools. Whether we like it or not, we have all been programmed to support 'good causes' by decades of MSM, academia, social pressure. Causes such as equality/equity, which only serves to undercut a high performing economy causing even greater inequality, but now with weak leadership and decision-making that cannot be criticised.

@jons6013 5 ай бұрын

The question is still: why? What motivates Sunak et al to make these voter-hostile policies. Do they fear powers other than voters? Is it self-serving (money, virtue, future power)? I can't see it being something they really believe. It may have been a ‘missed opportunity’ to us but was it an opportunity to be avoided at all costs to them?

@user-vj7vk1oc6v 5 ай бұрын

"So what are your views on the nanny state?" "I think it's f*cking bollocks. Why should Jacob Rees-Mogg and Mark Carney get a free £28billion a year from the taxpayer?" "Not that nanny state!"

@billynomates920 5 ай бұрын

what's new discourses about then?

@rogeralsop3479 5 ай бұрын

More info.

@rODIUMuk 5 ай бұрын

I missed it

@rossriver75yukon27 4 ай бұрын

It’s interesting that we can study all animals, plants, aspects of nature, but we cannot study peoples, cultures as it would be considered racist from the get-go. ( as alluded to around 11:00).

@nzreggae2534 5 ай бұрын

Is anyone willing to say 'anti European'.

@richardmartyn7865 5 ай бұрын

Elephant in the room...feminism

@evolassunglasses4673 5 ай бұрын

Downstream from Liberalism and Capitalism.

@Cherismile 5 ай бұрын

Real women don't need to be feminists... They just seem to be the louder voices. ... But I'm up for raising my voice against all woke guff, including feminism!

@rebekahshantz569 4 ай бұрын

There are enough well educated and literate women to publish their own small newspaper by now (without relying upon beauty, feminism and advice columns). I don't think anyone would stop them if they asked for a loan from the bank. However, would it be legal to have an all-female group of people do this now? Perhaps the woke movement will be reduced when people have a feasible project of their own and the project not being the woke movement.

@JohnBobRoger 4 ай бұрын

Its all Marxist.....women drive it...its in their DNA.....the Kazarians.... in their religion.

@illinoisenemabandit9209 4 ай бұрын

Did someone say "reconquista"???

@justanothernick3984 4 ай бұрын

Stupid hypothesis: Once society gets more advanced, we can "afford to trade" in a new currency; morality.

@lindsaytwort8655 5 ай бұрын

Dumbing everything down to mediocrity. What happened to excellence? Also the correct speaking of the English language. Horrified as an English teacher, at the spoken language on all platforms. I cringe all the time!

@user-we2qv1cx6x 4 ай бұрын

Kaufmann never ceases to amaze me. He sets the bar quite high. I study the classics and ancient languages, so I have a different focus academically, but nonetheless his skill and dedication is extraordinary. I hope to be at that level one day! With him, I know I am with good people:)

@sweden_is_xxxx 4 ай бұрын

Start living in the real world. Stop consuming. Save your money.

@FindThisArtist 5 ай бұрын

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@ClownTown15000 4 ай бұрын

Study race and IQ. Oh wait, that's already been studied.

@wjdeoliveira3809 4 ай бұрын

Eric Kaufmann is brilliant, but I just can't get used to the American use of the term "liberalism". It is so extremely counter intuitive. It keeps throwing me off, even though I do know what he means by it.

@abuyusef27 5 ай бұрын

This guy needs a knighthood

@_HeathenChemistry_ 4 ай бұрын

This course will never be free. These people are simply making money off the back of wokism

@roblancs 5 ай бұрын

I mean, we could just teach the Bible again?

@grannyannie2948 5 ай бұрын

Yes. I suggested this in the comment section of a Triggernometry video about a school being sued for not having a Muslim prayer room. As an Australian I was shocked that most British commenters were more upset about Christianity being taught in schools than the reality that Islam controls the schools.

@onenote6619 5 ай бұрын

If you could adequately and consistently define what 'woke' is, I might perhaps pay attention.

@user-ts4rd7sv5n 5 ай бұрын

The professor did so.

@gorkri9215 4 ай бұрын

@@user-ts4rd7sv5nIt's his definition. MAGA has many definitions. It boils down to whatever they don't like. The term woke originally was used for those who recognized there is such a thing as institutional racism.

@ibtisamhtewek3407 3 ай бұрын

You should also mention not only Islamophobia and Antisemitic ???????? please be fair , ,

@gorkri9215 4 ай бұрын

Any video with the trendy word woke in it is not to be taken seriously. It's just part of the MAGA entertainment complex.

@SebastianE30 4 ай бұрын

I suggest you read the Talmud and study Kabbalah to understand our post WW2 predicament rather than interviewing those practicing Tikkun Olam.

@user-po3km8in2h 4 ай бұрын

It's important to have multiculturalism and diversity

@thel1355 5 ай бұрын

There is something about Whittle's mouth that makes it look like he's been dubbed over whenever he speaks, almost like he prerecorded the audio in a studio and then had to mime the words for the video. It's really weird.

@offshoretomorrow3346 5 ай бұрын

Good stuff, but bring back the young presenters, Peter.

@martinjackman2943 5 ай бұрын

More talking heads fiddling while Rome burns. We already know what it is, what they are doing and how and why An eighty quid history lesson is just smug.

@grannyannie2948 5 ай бұрын

When Rome fell to the barbarians, they were already living in the city as economic migrants.

@actonman7291 5 ай бұрын

Buy my course it will cost you 3K . Grift vibes.

@FindThisArtist 5 ай бұрын

Maybe they'll start with the head of the snake. Talk about the IBS, IMF, WHO, UN, WEF, CIA, MI5, MOSSAD, SILICON VALLEY, maybe they'll charge you 9 K a year and actually teach you how the western world is run. I doubt it, but maybe. Their cheapest and best bet, as well as our greatest hope, would be citizen journos teaching them. Oh, and common sense i almost forgot.

@robertseavor4304 5 ай бұрын

Courses cost. Live with it.

@TheCuggsmeister 5 ай бұрын

Well, it's £80. So not quite three grand.

@stumccabe 5 ай бұрын

£80, not £3000! Why do you think this man should give his work away for no reward? Do you work for free or do you expect to be paid? Are you some sort of communist?

@Zurvan101 5 ай бұрын

Nothing is free, everything has a cost. When government offers a free service of some sorts, you're the product that they seek to control through it.