Allowing the previous button to be mapped when using a mouse..

I agree Snazzylabs actually made some good points. And there are basic stuff we shouldn’t let Apple go on. Better don’t support. Too many times I have to switch between iPad and Mac, because some client font isn’t compatible. But making things feel like a desktop it’s missing the point. I used Dex on Samsung, and its desktop for babies. All the tablet perks gimped without the actual perks of a desktop. I think Dex on phones is nice, but on tablet? Nah. Stage manager sucks too. 13” screen is just too small to properly multitask. I need two screens for that kind of behaviour.

Right on. And so many others, like better file management, having an eject button for drives to avoid drive corruption (which does happen), being able to choose what app opens with what file type, being able to play more one audio source at a time, multi-user support or allowing a guest account. These are all basic features and quality of life improvements that everyone benefits from and has been asking for in a $1000+ device but Apple has willingly ignored for years. This channel is such a bootlicking apologist of a corporation that he doesn't even give this a second thought for the user experience.

I agree. It’s possible that some of the issues you pointed out may be due to iPadOS still supporting devices with 4GB of RAM, but there are others that seem like relatively simple fixes.

You should buy something else if the iPad Pro does not do it for you. It is a niche product that sells 7-9 million units a year, so it is clearly not for everyone. Move on and leave the iPad Pro to people who understand it is for certain people, not everyone. And saying it should run macOS is dumb as 99% of all iPads out there have 8GB or less of RAM, and they would be awful running macOS due to that alone (according to the trolls that whine about 8GB Macs).

He's always been an Apple bootlicker. Anytime there have been public complains about anything from Apple, he's defended Apple.

Here is what is happening. Apple is not listening to the majority of iPad users and is dedicated to serve the minority, artists. They use them as an excuse to not improve the laptop abilities of iPadOS, thus protecting Macs from being cannibalized. So the only way for the ordinary person to use the iPad is to use it as a companion device. Many are tricked by KZfaqrs praising the iPad Pro and ended up getting it as opposed to the MacBook (that is me). And I got the MacBook anyways at last. I still like the iPad and I like it WITH MY MAC. However, it feels so wrong to buy such an expensive device just to use it as a second screen. When people asked me iPad or laptop, I say always laptop. If you have to ask, then just buy any proper laptop and skip the iPad. The only people who should buy the iPad are those who are clear that the iPad is for them. I do coding and design, and the iPad proves itself useful in many occasions, but for the number of times I use the iPad, it is just not worth the price. I would say either get both the Mac and iPad or just get a Mac. And I would speak to aspiring designers out there, you want an iPad, you need a real laptop. You see, you can draw on a computer, that is how all the professionals are doing things for years. Then the iPad landed and is luring many younger artists for their thin design and stylus support, it seems like a great Wacom tablet made by Apple and yes, it is great, for that reason only. Any other use case is only for convenience. Maybe you wanna sit on the couch, or on your bed, on being in meeting without having a laptop blocking you. I am just speaking from personal experience. The iPad is a really good convenience device, but it is by all means not necessary, and the most misleading marketing of Apple is the "Pro" marketing. We should all understand by now that all pro devices are for professionals. Like the AirPods Pro are clearly not for professionals. Pro simply means best, you are a pro Apple user. And for some who utilize their devices, pro does translate to professional and that is what Apple shows in commercials and success stories but most people out there just need a device that does everything and needs it to be reliable, easy to use, versatile and THAT IS THE MAC (or other PC laptop). iPad is flexible hardware, not software. It is designed to be that way and is not gonna change. Don't ever buy an iPad Pro for video editing, for music production, for coding when you can use that money to buy something way more capable. Even if you are an artist, make sure you have a Mac or PC before splurging on an iPad. The most pro use case of the iPad is just as a Wacom and even Wacom users buy computers before they buy their tablets. Do not be sad about the potential of iPad, instead take a step back and see what device is all about. It is a tablet, for watching videos, for editing photos, for drawing, for gaming, it is able to touch fields like video editing, music production, graphics design and coding but you shouldn't buy it for that. iPad users that complain about the software are usually those who want it to be your laptop and it simply isn't what Apple expects it to be. And I think the most deceiving move from Apple is the release of the Magic Keyboard. It gave people hope that Apple is making a touch screen laptop but in reality, it is another cash grab from Apple so you can get 2 laptops from them.

@@VincentLeong-bb4vn don’t agree with you mate. All the stuff you want to do, you can do on a MacBook Air. The iPad doesn’t need to be a MacBook Air. And the iPad just isn’t for you, and that’s just less money you need to spend. As someone who makes pictures for a living this is my favourite tool. Wacom makes gimped and expensive products and art apps on desktop lag like crazy. And compared to what Wacom devices cost, the iPad Pro is actually cheap. For keyboard and mouse input, I don’t see how the iPad form factor is good, the Magic Keyboard is worse than any MacBook, and the trackpad is small and for a worse experience you have to pay more money. If you not using it as a touch first device the iPad isn’t for you. I use my iPad with just the pencil. A desktop OS is a horrible idea. And dual booting is just another nightmare I don’t want to deal with and neither does the majority. Been using the iPad since 2010, and it’s great for what it is. An entry level chipset will never do my full workflow, why I have a Mac Studio for bigger tasks. You don’t need everything from Apple. I have an iPhone, iPad and Mac. Refuse to buy an Apple Watch. It’s ugly and runs out of battery too quick. Too many times it ended up being just a wrist band when I had it, as I left the house forgetting to charge it too often 😅 there are other options and that’s good enough for me. I have a G-shock smart watch right now, it’s the 80s with a step counter, notifications and some health measurement stuff.

​@@sloppynyuszi I like the iPad as a tablet, not so much as a laptop alternative or replacement, that's why I have both. However, I think it really comes to app developers whether the iPad can continue to sell. So far, Procreate is the best on the iPad since it is ONLY on the iPad, however, when you take a look at Affinity and Adobe apps or even, in a broader sense, most productivity and creativity apps, the capability of these apps are limited. And I am not saying that the iPad itself is bad, the apps on it aren't the complete version, and that is fine if the iPad isn't that powerful and expensive. With the latest iteration of especially the Pro models, the iPad Pros are getting outrageously expensive, one of the reasons being tandem OLED and that is honestly pretty cool, however, the M4 chip is honestly useless on the iPad. And before you come at me, think about this for a moment, I guess we can agree that the iPad's strength is drawing (for illustration and design), however, it isn't really good for 3D graphics design, or video editing, or coding. The problem I have with iPads is that they are getting increasingly powerful to the point that, for what I use the iPad for, the extra performance is basically redundant. Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure that I don't need an M4 to draw on Procreate or design a logo or Affinity Designer. After this iPad Pro update, the iPad got its best update, which is the screen. And everything else are convenience features or bells and whistles, and most ironically, the most useless part of this iPad is M4. They give an example of Octane on the iPad (basically because Apple mentions it in the keynote), however, who will even buy an iPad for Octane? I get your point-the iPad is not for tasks like video editing and 3D rendering but it is capable of it. You don't have to buy an iPad if that doesn't suit your workflow. And to that, I agree. What I am having a problem with, is people on the internet telling people to buy the iPad Pro for video editing, 3D rendering and coding when it is clearly not made for it. Worse still, people, especially fanboys, defend the iPad regardless claiming that it is "a whole new experience with touch and the Apple Pencil", when something like the Surface Pro exists. The iPad is a tablet, not a touch screen laptop, therefore, it is far from an essential but more of a quality of life device. And you owning a Mac or potentially some other PC proves my point, you can't (or don't want to) get by with just an iPad. The iPad should always be a companion device, doesn't mean it is bad. It is like a smartwatch, it is another form factor for your smartphone and there are extra features you only get on it like fitness and health tracking. The iPad is an extension of your Mac or PC, allowing to interact with a large screen with touch, while offering exceptional drawing features and for many people, the iPad can play a larger or smaller role in your workflow but I couldn't be a laptop, but a laptop could be a tablet (Surface Pro). And whether merging the two is a good idea is down to personal preference, I personally like to keep them separate but lots of people seem to have some other ideas of putting macOS on iPad.

What room is that? You are living in a KZfaq bubble where sentiments feed off of each other and everybody has the same work flow, but go into the real world and nobody’s talking about any of this stuff. The vast majority of people love their iPads, which is why they outsell Macs. Chris is reading the room, but it’s the room with most users in it, not the niche users who want everything to be exactly like a Mac. THE IPAD ISN’T A MAC, yet so many just don’t understand that simple concept. As for specific things for iPad, have you thought about the iPhone and Mac, items that also got very few things specific for them? This WWDC was all about AI and all the OS’es got maybe two unique things to each. iPhone got almost nothing unique as Apple’s best selling product. I don’t see anyone complaining about that. Mac got two things and iPad got two things. If you don’t like the iPad, it wasn’t made for you. Go buy a Mac and leave the iPad to those of us who love it for being the best tablet in the world bar none. There is not a tablet that comes remotely close and I’ve had practically all of them.

iPad is a touch device, as is the iPhone, so naturally they will share features that make them both great touch devices. That being said, iPadOS does have a lot of room for improvement, and I don’t think iPadOS needs to be complete separated from iOS to do that. As Chris stated in the video, this will happen over time

He nailed the video, and it was probably hard for him not to be frustrated by comments like yours that defy reasonable logic. Apple has stated that it will never be a hybrid device, and they are in it for the long haul, so when it is as old as Windows, it will be as good in its own tablet sector. One of MS' biggest regrets and most costly was trying to make Windows a tablet/desktop hybrid. It taught OEMs that it is a stupid model and should not be repeated. It meant that MS not only missed out on smartphones, but they also became irrelevant in the tablet market. Apple would be stupid to follow that course. The rest of the minor issues may be fixed if they can, but some, like the file app, will not due to iPadOS sandboxing.

@@andyH_England Once upon a time, I bought a Surface Pro because I really wanted a hybrid device. That experience soured me on the whole concept as the device was the worst tech device I’d bought in a decade. Compromises made it a weak laptop and the worst tablet I have ever seen, and I’ve seen a lot of them. The current Surface Pro is a decent laptop, but I still would never use it as a tablet. It may pretend to be a hybrid, but it still runs an OS that is not optimized for touch. Even if it were, touching controls on apps is a nightmare. Hardly any apps, including MS’s, are touch optimized.

The iPad Pro would be a perfect device if it is a few hundred dollars cheaper. I understand why some people defend the iPad, they are either fanboys or are really passionate professionals using the iPad is their work. And Chris is probably a mix of the two. However, the problem people have with the iPad is less about the functionality but the price. When the price of an iPad is raised so much that is the same price as a MacBook Air and more expensive than an M3 Pro MacBook when fully speced with accessories, people expect more. And honestly, Apple never changed their stance on the iPad. They believe that it is for art, they believe that it is the best companion to the Mac, they agree that they are the portable lite version of the Mac which is built touch-first (or iPhone like). They never intend to make this a replacement for the Mac. However, the price of iPads went so high that expectations from people are raised and they are disappointed again and again. I am not joking, the iPad part of WWDC24 is the absolute worst among other OS announcements. And frankly, this WWDC kinda sucks apart from Apple Intelligence but is more of Apple playing catch-up. I have be testing the betas of macOS, iPadOS and iOS and only macOS window snapping and iPhone mirroring proved to be useful, other features are just pointless gimmicks (iPad Math notes included). I expect major change in iPadOS this year because of all the hype and most people really misinterpret Tim Cook's statement at the end of the Let Loose event telling us to look forward to WWDC. He really says that literally, telling fans to hop on the AI hype train, not really iPad-specific enhancements. iPads have always been cool devices, never necessary. I would argue that digit artists can also draw on laptops or desktops with a bit more effort. Yes, they cannot use Procreate but they can use the better version of illustrator or affinity designer 2. And that is what I am using right now. The advantage of iPad is not that apparent and most people who choose iPadOS over macOS or Windows are just liking the feel of iPadOS, not really its functionality. It is a really convenient companion device, but was never meant to be used alone. It excels at a lot of tasks but absolutely struggle with certain tasks, whereas a proper laptop handles all tasks fairly well. There is NOTHING you are missing out on if you go for a proper laptop over an iPad. Those are just convenience features but doesn't change the game. I have been really harsh on the iPad but I am also an avid iPad user myself and is in the Apple ecosystem. The iPad is great device and my main use cases for it is universal control, sidecar, as a laptop when my MacBook is updating or downloading something, when I want to read ebooks, stitching together presentation on the way to a meeting, working on the car. And I never use a keyboard on my iPad as I might as well use a Mac at that point. My Mac handles video editing, music production and graphics design. And my main workflow involves Xcode/VSCode + Docker for iOS development and learning C++. I am stating my workflow as many people don't do all of these on their devices and they might get by with an iPad but again, if you are not sure/if you are a student who has yet found your passion, Mac would guide you there faster. Mac is an inspiring computer to work with, this is also true with quality windows laptop (that also have a touch screen if you are really a big fan of that). Mac has free apps that are rather advanced. iMovie and GarageBand and Xcode on Mac are all free and are packed with features, the same cannot be said with iMovie for iOS, GarageBand for iOS and Playgrounds for iPad. You are also more likely to game on your sexy iPad than on a good old Mac, just facts. Apple products are selling a dream, a dream that users of Apple products become professionals and creatives, Mac fits that ideology better. iPads are bad but they are a quality of life thing. I am sure if an artist starts drawing on an old crappy tablet or on their old $300 windows machine, they would love the iPad Pro a lot. But if you are diving into the world of content creation, getting an iPad is just spoiling yourself. And for students who are planning on buying an iPad for school, just don't. It offers more distractions than utility. I would only recommend iPads for college students or high school students with really really good willpower and self-control.

There are cheaper versions, but if you can afford the Pro and, like my family, still have Gen 1, then the cost-per-year is very reasonable if you keep them until they break.

Sorry, but I disagree with your assessment. I have no problem dropping that kind of money on a device like this. I want the hardware to be the best it can possibly be at purchase time so the device will still be performant in many years to come.

Exactly this. And I really wanted to own the M4 iPad Pro. Just couldn’t justify it with the unfortunate software story. The fact that Apple is leaving money on the table should worry them. If it doesn’t then that is a failure of leadership. Remember the iPad has had several substantial down quarters. It’s not like the current Apple strategy is working.

I'm not sure why you are disappointed. The iPad Pro has been basically the same since the M1 version. What were you expecting? The M4 is the OLED upgrade with a faster, future-proofed chip.

@@andyH_England not sure what you don’t get . I was hoping for more .. and I certainly was hoping for a better software news with WWDC so there you go . Hence I sold it .

@@woofiooxx You probably watch the same YT channels that claim that macOS is coming to iPads when Apple has reiterated hundreds of times that it will never come. That is nothing to be disappointed about from the iPad; it has more to do with your expectations being misaligned to reality. People should forget about macOS on an iPad and buy it for what it is, not pipe dreams from influencers preying on people's wishes for clicks.

@@woofiooxxhonestly what were you expecting? Like specifically (please not a desktop OS, if no one is converting to that on windows why you think it will be different on MacOS?). For most people 2018 iPad Pro is fine. Looks similar, runs all your content fine, and you have your precious 120hz for scrolling through tiktok. I had some 4k animations my M1 iPad was struggling with, and full Zbrush is coming to iOS. My M4 is struggling less now, and Apple hover was something I found hard justifying the upgrade for last time, but the significant grunt and OLED screen makes it more palpable. This is clearly a pro tool for artists and a super long lasting tablet for others. There just isn’t a device to please all. This is totally awesome and very happy with the upgrade.

No, most of the features were AI, and the AI features haven’t been released on any beta OS yet.

They want a Microsoft Surface made by Apple

Nonsense. I’ve used an 12.9” iPad Pro w/ Cellular as my main device for over 3 years now. This device absolutely kills Mac’s in many ways, detachable, 120hz, pencil support, touch interface, Face ID and Cellular models. I’d much rather have a 13” iPad Pro any day of the week. I could care less about battery, and an extra usb-c port. If you want a Mac get one, but don’t say that a large population of people can’t get things done with this as their main device.

But it doesn’t pretend to be a Mac. People try to push it into that shoe and it just doesn’t fit. My MB Air was my daily driver, that recently went to my wife and I have moved to an iPadPro knowingly that I will be operating off of a mobile OS. For my use case it will work. I have an iPad 6 with a pencil that I still do a lot of stuff on, and it was time to upgrade. But to each their own and folks just need to realize is one persons use case is not another’s and in the end if you get the right tool for your use case, that’s a win.

The iPad does not pretend to be a laptop replacement, neither does Apple profess nor advertise it to be such. The iPad is a tablet, marketed as one and designed to be used as one......and it very much excels in it's role as such. When will folks ever come to this understanding and appreciate it for what it is? Bottom line, if for whatever reasons you are unable to fully utilise the iPad for what it is and is capable of, then it clearly was not made for you or your use case. Accept this fact, be content with a MacBook (or any other laptop for that matter) and leave the iPad niche for the folks who truly appreciate it and are able to get the most out of it's usage.

You take stuff too literally. It is a PC replacement for some, but it never tries to be a replacement for all PC users; otherwise, Apple would discontinue its Mac line. So, it is more about people's misperceptions of choices. For example, my parents have replaced their laptops with iPad Pros and used the same ones since they were released.

It’s a use case thing. I need a computer, but I also need a drawing device. MacBook Pros are crazy expensive and can’t do anything of the things I do on my iPad. Now my iPad can’t do some of the stuff my Mac does. That stuff doesn’t need to be on the go, and for the price of the MacBook Pro you can get an iPad Pro and Mac Studio. So it totally replaced my laptop. I honestly just draw and animate on my iPad, and some of the bigger projects need the processing and ram. I swear 90% of the stuff people want to do with iPads doesn’t make sense on the form factor. How is editing not easier on a regular laptop?

MS and Samsung all have similar prices for their accessories, so I am not sure that is a valid point. The advantage with Apple is third-party keyboards and pens can be had for much less, so you have a choice.

The same exact thing can be said about the MacBook Air versus the MacBook Pro. The iPad Pro is just one iPad that does things faster and better than the lesser iPads with better hardware. The MacBook Pro is just one MacBook that does things faster and better than the lesser Macs with better hardware. But I ask, what does the MacBook Pro do that the MacBook Air can’t? 99% of users would do just fine with a MacBook Air just as 99% of users can do just fine with an iPad Air. I can’t think of a single thing a MacBook Pro can do that a MacBook Air can’t, software-wise. As for desktop apps, newsflash. It isn’t a desktop. It’s a tablet. If you have complaints about any particular app, take it up with the developer since Apple writes very few apps. Any iPad app will operate differently and will emphasize different things. Why would you want everything to be exactly like a Mac? Then what’s the point in the iPad? There is no reason to ever buy an iPad if it is a Mac because it has a worse battery and worse thermals than a MBA and could not outperform a MBA. I find it odd that people want the iPad to do everything a Mac does in exactly the same way, yet don’t have the same expectation of a Mac. It can’t do everything an iPad can do and doesn’t do things in the same way an iPad does. Chris is exactly right. You think in Mac terms, not iPad terms on how things should work. But since an iPad isn’t a Mac, why do you think that way? Ever thought that the Mac is a poor substitute for an iPad? I use an iPad for 90% of all my computing needs due to the iPad’s sheer flexibility and ultra portability a Mac just can’t match.

I appreciate that you spent that much time misinterpreting my comment. Do it again please.

@@dystrakted Sure. What did you want to me dispute? I already disagreed with everything you’ve said and commented on it all. I am a person who uses an iPad for almost everything I need in a computer and there’s nothing I need iPadOS to add that would be essential. There are always new features that would be neat, but iPadOS and iPads do everything necessary in a tablet.

What you fail to realize is that your needs are not the needs of others and your use-case and opinion is not the be-all-end-all. I'm very happy that you're able to justify your purchase though and I'm glad that I could trigger you this evening.

@@dystrakted I agree that everyone’s needs are not the same and don’t pretend to speak for everyone. The complainers of the iPad are the ones that are always saying their workflow is the only workflow and that anyone who likes the iPad is just sucking up to Apple and that Apple must make the iPad the way they want it. I’ve always said that if it doesn’t meet your needs, by all means buy something else. But saying the iPad software is underpowered and that no “desktop class” apps exist is nonsense. There are tons of excellent apps, just not the ones you need. I’m just sick of all these niche KZfaqrs who say the iPad should be something it isn’t and speaking for everyone. Chris is one of the few who actually speaks as an iPad user and not a Mac user who wants their iPad to be their Mac. I’ve read enough posts to know “I don’t expect iPadOS to be macOS’ really means “I do want it to act exactly like my Mac in every way, shape, and form even if it’s not running macOS”.

maybe you also don't need a 1000 dollar iphone,

@@BenCadetThePastafarian Oh, but I do!

There are other tablets if 120Hz is essential to you. I am not condoning it, but Apple is a business, and they work for shareholders not consumers per se, so they have to think of what makes customers upsell.

Sidecar doesn’t do that for you? I’ve mirrored my Mac onto iPad before, it’s an old feature. Or you mean you want your iPad screen on your iMac? Why don’t want to just duel screen for more UI space? Just drag whatever window you need to see in OLED onto the iPad.

Switching Spaces is not a big deal. Even four windows on my 11-inch are messy, so I'm not sure I would want that many in one space. I have space zones and can easily switch them, which means I do not have to keep finding windows or switching them from the sidebar.

True, but some people can afford to buy the best. For others, there are cheaper versions or refurbs, even secondhand. There are different demographics, and expensive you may not even register for someone with high disposable income.

99% of users don't, we all want an iPad OS that isn't caged by Apple, where we can do basic things like listen to more than one audio source at a time, have real background multitasking, proper file management, be able to eject an external drive, and so on. A bunch of basic stuff that a $1000+ "Pro" device doesn't do.

@@carpediemearth Interesting. So we are to assume that you’ve personally spoken to “99% of users”? Must’ve been an exhausting endeavor!

@@operabrotha5208 You said "people want iPads to operate exactly like Mac", and that's a gross overstatement as 99% of people don't, they want the OS of their $1000+ device to have all the basic features and quality of life improvements expected, which all other competitors' devices have. It's INSANE that an iPad PRO can't play more than one audio source at a time or have real background multitasking making use the device's ram capacity, among many other basic stuff.

Nah. It can totally replace MBP for average non creative users. I know a growing number of people that only owns iPad annoy other computer in their household.

Most of my family have ditched their laptops and now only use iPads or Android tablets. You are referring to pro users, not the core market, where what pro users need is irrelevant. There is a good reason iPads are heading for one billion units sold.

The same experience you'd have on an M1 iPad.

On mac u don’t have artificial system limitations. A dev can use everything there is and request permission to the whole system. On iPad u can’t. U can’t even let an app run in the background. Until recently u couldn’t even get other browsers than safari/ safari with a chrome skin on top. Chromium is often used as a base for many apps on Mac and pc Devs can also publish everywhere on mac with more payment options . Not just the AppStore with its fees and rules. U can’t even make free trials on the AppStore All reasons why iPad is unattractive for devs This is on Apple not the devs

All you need is one…

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