The Cynical Beauty Of Mindless Self Indulgence

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Mindless Self Indulgence has been one of my favorite bands since I was 14, this video essay was a labor of love! Long live MSI.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
1:15 Beginnings
2:16 Tight
4:37 Frankenstein Girls
10:09 You'll Rebel To Anything
15:14 IF
18:36 How I Learned To Stop Giving A

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@punishedgremlim6104
@punishedgremlim6104 2 жыл бұрын
MSI is a once in a life time band. Rabbit Junk, Black Dresses, and Food House are all great with what they took. But they'll never beat Mindless 😎👉👉
@MAXAMILLIONMAN
@MAXAMILLIONMAN 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Uncle Outrage and Switchee
@xLimito
@xLimito Жыл бұрын
@@MAXAMILLIONMAN For real, Uncle Outrage is my favourite
@qwerty-br9vv
@qwerty-br9vv Жыл бұрын
@@xLimito BTW he's releasing hew album!
@xLimito
@xLimito Жыл бұрын
@@qwerty-br9vv I'm one step ahead haha, got it on pre order
@lilstinker2715
@lilstinker2715 Жыл бұрын
@@MAXAMILLIONMAN Retard-O-Bot too
@wispy_nova
@wispy_nova Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Jhonen Vasquez, creator of Squee, Invader Zim, Johhny the Homocidal Maniac, and more, directed the music video for "Shut Me Up"
@valefurrywaffles55
@valefurrywaffles55 11 ай бұрын
Another fun fact: Jimmy wrote the song that Dib and Gaz listen to on Tak's ship in the Invader Zim movie.
@jamesstaggs4160
@jamesstaggs4160 5 ай бұрын
God I love that video. Super creative. Lots of fun to watch.
@17twiztid17
@17twiztid17 4 ай бұрын
Pretty sure he did some of their artwork too
@JaceReboot
@JaceReboot 4 ай бұрын
He also did the album art for "If" and the short comic "Everything Can Be Beaten" was included as a bonus promo item with the anniversary rerelease of "If" on vinyl.
@CrankyCanine
@CrankyCanine 3 ай бұрын
WHAT HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS
@brizzyxxriot
@brizzyxxriot Жыл бұрын
I fell head over heels for MSI when I was 15. Shut me up on a crush's myspace page was how I discovered them. From 15 to 22 I saw them six times. Jimmy knows how to hype an audience but man did he get away with a lot that wouldn't fly today. The early to mid 00's were just a WILD fucking time
@slipknotboy555
@slipknotboy555 2 ай бұрын
This is over a year later, but it's kinda funny - I first really started listening to them when I listened to "Bullshit" on my ex's myspage page. Haha. That was like 2010 or so; I think I was in 8th grade or kinda fresh out (somewhere around there). Didn't really start getting into them until like a year ago, though. Never saw them live or anything. :/
@chromerotica
@chromerotica 19 күн бұрын
I got recommended MSI on youtube- it was their album IF. My mom was a MASSIVE fan of them, though, and she was enthralled with me finding them. My aunt and her got to see them live, and true to Jimmy's nature, slapped my aunt on the ass after bringing her up on stage. Also true to Jimmy's nature, she was underage. Regardless, my aunt and my mom both recount the whole thing positively and recall everything with a whole lot of joy. Through my mom i got introduced to a bunch of MSI adjacent things like Z? (or JTHM), Invader Zim, and i found some stuff on my own like Black Dresses (fantasic band btw!!). I would love to hear about your experiences with the shows, im a bit of a nostalgia fiend for experiences i didnt have ^^;
@dannyslag
@dannyslag 4 ай бұрын
I got the honor of having Jimmy pour a jug of milk onto me.
@hi3-xk4mz
@hi3-xk4mz 3 ай бұрын
WHAT
@averagekinnie
@averagekinnie 3 ай бұрын
LMFAOOO THATS FUCKING AWESOME
@hissifit
@hissifit 2 ай бұрын
woah.
@pumpkien101
@pumpkien101 2 ай бұрын
thats actually so cool! when did that happen?
@Ieatmanydrywalls
@Ieatmanydrywalls 2 ай бұрын
@@pumpkien101jimmy did a lot of things at like every concert, he used to give people kisses for a price no joke
@thejohnkaufman
@thejohnkaufman 11 ай бұрын
Just a wholesome, family-friendly Christian rock band. You really can sit there and feel the unconditional love they feel for everyone in all of their songs. ❤️
@carecaruivo
@carecaruivo 8 ай бұрын
yeah...💀
@ju4408
@ju4408 2 ай бұрын
Only if you play it backwards.
@Electrohead92
@Electrohead92 2 жыл бұрын
MSI deserves way more credit and respect than they get for influencing a ton of popular acts. 100 Gecs and Death Grips both have elements of MSI in them along with a lot of other artists like Grimes; who openely mentioned that Jimmy Urine was a huge influence on her. Their style is one of the most unique I've ever heard, even to this day. Frankstein Girls has some of the best production I've ever heard on an album.
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
I could give you an entire grocery list of artists both big and upcoming that take a ton from MSI. Even I do with my music. MSI is just one of those unsung heroes sadly, they remind me a lot of bands like From First To Last, The Birthday Massacre, and Cartel for really setting the standard and influencing artists who became huge. I hope they start to get the credit they deserve. Also is your name a reference to Combichrist?
@Electrohead92
@Electrohead92 2 жыл бұрын
@@graymads Yes, it is. I discovered Combichrist through MSI when they toured together alongside THe Birthday Massacre. Unfortunately, I never got to see any of them live. Not seeing MSI live is one of the most upsetting things for me.
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
@@Electrohead92 I caught that that tour! Adn yea not seeing MSI is on my list of regrets to lol
@incaseofimportantnegotiations
@incaseofimportantnegotiations 2 жыл бұрын
@@Electrohead92 they are old people now you not gonna see pissing on the scene even in 2015 live jimmy was just leksplay talking first thing he can come up with. like yeah that's better than those bands that literally do nothing with audience and just play music. there's real effort but it's not an oustanding show where the musicians have a live play or prewritten jokes or can really do stuff on the fly
@themyth1990
@themyth1990 8 ай бұрын
100 Gecs is more like a dry fake eboy version of brokencyde.
@tvbra1nr0t
@tvbra1nr0t Жыл бұрын
Msi has been my favorite band for years now and I genuinely haven’t been able to find other bands that can replicate or create similar music to them
@missylee5
@missylee5 25 күн бұрын
And you never will! Everyone is so pussified now
@worm8294
@worm8294 11 күн бұрын
@@missylee5 we just need to wait for a new band to counteract the pussy culture
@OrbGoblin
@OrbGoblin Жыл бұрын
Tbh Frankenstein Girls is maybe one of my fave albums ever. I don't really care if they intended it cynically or ironically, it's the musical equivalent of chaotic neutral and I love it.
@yuvan4244
@yuvan4244 3 ай бұрын
same i fucking love it
@justarandomcat2367
@justarandomcat2367 Жыл бұрын
I got into MSI because of My Chemical Romance and Lyn-Z (just like many others) and honestly I fell in love with them, you'll never find a sound like theirs anywhere else and both their stage presence and aethetic are just amazing.
@winglessfairy564
@winglessfairy564 11 ай бұрын
Literally same here
@mrspaghetti8147
@mrspaghetti8147 2 жыл бұрын
I think it should be noted “Faggot” is quite a serious song about discrimination against Jimmy for his sexuality. Incredible video tho! I’ve been waiting for a really good MSI video essay and I’ve found it!
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks glad you liked it!
@esslee4042
@esslee4042 Жыл бұрын
Hey. Can you explain more ? Is he bisexual? I always wondered haha
@mrspaghetti8147
@mrspaghetti8147 Жыл бұрын
@@esslee4042 well, I’m not Jimmy lol so I couldn’t go in depth but he’s said before that he’s pansexual
@beta5483
@beta5483 Жыл бұрын
didnt he groom a 16 year old girl
@majime1246
@majime1246 Жыл бұрын
And about people labeling you as gay wether you are or aren’t.
@hazelXin223
@hazelXin223 Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you made this video. MSI is one of the bands that made me who I am today.
@hazelXin223
@hazelXin223 Жыл бұрын
Subbed btw. Forgot to do that earlier. Silly me.
@striderreborn1467
@striderreborn1467 Жыл бұрын
Jimmy also went on to do voices in videogames and even boss battle music for "Lollipop Chainsaw".
@katsu1455
@katsu1455 10 ай бұрын
You won't believe how many people learned about MSI from AMVs
@joshtoten
@joshtoten 9 ай бұрын
And 90% of those people cite the Pokemon Bitches AMV. (...guilty. It was a wild ass time in 2001.)
@chungusmychungus
@chungusmychungus 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish someone would talk about Euringer, because its a really interesting reflection on MSI, but I loved the video! I learned a few things, this is definitely a band worth talking about even if they aren't for you
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
I've considered doing a video on it. Though my feelings on it are very lukewarm, so I am not sure how good of a video I could make on it.
@chungusmychungus
@chungusmychungus 2 жыл бұрын
@@graymads I understand that, I think it would be interesting if you ever had the time. There's a lot of Easter eggs and references to find throughout the album, example: in one of the songs there's the line "It is the omission of the words that gives it is power" which is a reference to the no-no word track on his first demo cassette. a lot of people debate too, if this was him going out and was his final album because he knew of the lawsuit happening before hand, and a lot of the lyrics seem to kind of jive with that idea
@cairn4719
@cairn4719 Жыл бұрын
@@graymads euringer is worth a listen just for do you kiss your mama with that mouth. died laughing
@sjukfan
@sjukfan 4 ай бұрын
@@graymadsI think Mindless Self Indulgence were for younger people and those with a young mind at that time, Euringer are for us old cynical people who can't conform now. Thing is, if the early albums like Tight and Frankenstein were released today both the right and leftist parents, and the young, would argue for a nationwide ban.
@hades_-xz9rw
@hades_-xz9rw 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I always thought msi as a band was genius. I am more of a fan of the earlier albums, Tight, frankenstein girls. I think it's good to separate the art from the artist, speaking on the recent controversy revolving around jimmy. It doesn't not sound like anything else out there, trust me I've looked. And I think that's why I enjoy their music as much as I do. I've seen most of their live shows available just because of the fascination I have of the band.
@hades_-xz9rw
@hades_-xz9rw 2 жыл бұрын
The hidden narrative by digibro (yes the guy who like lxli) made a video explaining the narrative behind each album of the band, and the way Jimmy views himself and others.
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
@@hades_-xz9rw I bet Digibro's favorite song was Panty Shot.
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
I am actually working on a whole video about separating the art from the artist. People tend to assume its only a handful of monsters that are in the music industry but from huge to small artist they are everywhere. MSI is far above Jimmy and his sins, and that's why I still enjoy them.
@hades_-xz9rw
@hades_-xz9rw 2 жыл бұрын
@@graymads yeah totally agree with you man. And uh yeah, that's probably one of the only reasons why he listened to msi lol. But besides everything great vid, guess msi will just be another bizarre history footnote. 👍👍
@maggotemma
@maggotemma Жыл бұрын
i think at a point its difficult to seperate the art from the artist with MSI...because quite a bit of jimmy's lyrics reference things that hes being accused of now
@Jdoom13
@Jdoom13 Жыл бұрын
$30!? I have Frankenstein girls but I don't remember paying that much. Maybe I stole it.
@causticdisco
@causticdisco 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish the band didn't end in the trainwreck it did, Jimmy is truly a talented person even if he is truly awful. It's a little hard to separate art from artist when in songs like Panty Shot and Clarissa, he sung about.. What he ended up being exposed for EDIT: At the time this comment was posted, I was not aware the allegations were proven false. I apologize. While some of his actions still absolutely raise eyebrows, I cannto say with certainty that any allegation is indeed true.
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
t's a bit hard to look at it all as satire when you are being sued for similar actions, also being friends with some other greezy people doesn't help.
@causticdisco
@causticdisco 2 жыл бұрын
@@graymads Yeah, that was my point. It's honestly sad. I wish we still could look at all of it as satire.
@theSemiChrist
@theSemiChrist 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the accusations are basically vague references to abuse and then "LoOk aT ThE LYrIcS!". Not to mention innocent until proven guilty. Edgy bois are just easy targets because who woulda thought shit would end up like... well, everything now.
@causticdisco
@causticdisco 2 жыл бұрын
@@theSemiChrist 1. The accusations have solid evidence, and I choose to believe victims over known abusers. 2. He's not an "edgy boi" he's a grown adult who has made questionable choices in his life,even if he makes good music I can call it what it is, Innapropriate behavior.
@theSemiChrist
@theSemiChrist 2 жыл бұрын
@@causticdisco yeah again, assuming that they are a "victim". Really nuanced approach my guy, everything is black and white right? Were it so simple. I hope you're never falsely accused of anything.
@m00k61
@m00k61 Жыл бұрын
Love their entire discography. MSI fan for the last 20 years.
@jayceegenocide4402
@jayceegenocide4402 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@camillosteuss
@camillosteuss Жыл бұрын
Same dude, same...
@robotprison9320
@robotprison9320 2 жыл бұрын
This was very thoughtfully written. Brought me back to why i first started listening to them in the 2000's. Thanks for making this.
@rockshmo
@rockshmo 4 ай бұрын
Such polarizing bands can't go on forever, I wouldn't want them to return. Enjoy what they did create, over and over and over and over and over and over again.
@russianmafiasmackdown1617
@russianmafiasmackdown1617 Ай бұрын
You’re right, it wouldn’t be the same if they came back but I’m so pissed I never got to see them live
@TRIPPSKIP
@TRIPPSKIP 5 ай бұрын
i've found that as time goes on, the name mindless self indulgence is definitely true. it's definitely more of a guilty pleasure band for me since it almost feels wrong to openly listen to them after jimmy's controversy/allegations/whatever you wanna call it, and i've seen allegations of harmful actions thrown at other msi members too. it's a band i have a deep appreciation for but at the same time it's surprisingly good to just have a sort of "brain shutdown" to and just enjoy the weird music without thinking too hard about the lyrics. i've never been able to find anyone who comes close to their sound, and i think msi doesn't get nearly enough credit for how unique and new their music sounds even today.
@heckarockstick802
@heckarockstick802 5 ай бұрын
so real
@gdhdjhrhdj4009
@gdhdjhrhdj4009 5 ай бұрын
💯💯💯
@bard.adottir
@bard.adottir Жыл бұрын
on a real note though this video was incredibly well researched and well made with tons of Information that I even learned from(ive been listening for 9 years which is since 2014) and no one talks about msi anymore so it was amazing too see a video essay on it
@graymads
@graymads Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! Wanted to do the music justice.
@jwolfgang6034
@jwolfgang6034 2 жыл бұрын
I was introduced to MSI in highschool 15 years ago. And honestly, i didn't like them that much. The only songs people showed me were Shut Me Up and there other more popular songs. But when i actually explored their music on my own, i truly stopped giving a shit and loved mindless self indulgence. And i feel the same way. MSI deserves A LOT more notoriety. And IF, and How I Learned were my favorite albums
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
MSI is sadly a forgotten titan but hopefully in time they will get more attention, its happened before.
@nellcreate3349
@nellcreate3349 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm too didn't liked MSI that much after I heard their popularest songs, but when I listened through all If album and other whole I started to really love them.
@sarahherbison5419
@sarahherbison5419 Жыл бұрын
If a Jhonan Vasquez comic was a band.
@FeathersPryx
@FeathersPryx Жыл бұрын
This is going to get hugely personal, and it needs to be so that I can make my point. Mindless Self Indulgence has had more influence on my development through adolescence than anything else ever could have. It taught awkward, unassertive, and self-conscious teenage me that it was ok, and actually pretty fucking cool to be loud and proud about being weird and gay as fuck. That you can be casually offensive without ill-intent. What originally attracted me was how genius his music was. The juxtaposition of clashing elements, the insane tempo changes without missing a single beat, how he is able to mash a thousand horrible sounds together to create a masterpiece. Their theme/music/style kind of created the entire atmosphere for my teen years. They "felt" like MSI. I would sit in the back of my SUV high as fuck, listening to MSI and having vivid daydreams about all of the perfect little idiosyncrasies in their style and music, how the themes all relate to each other, and why in the end it's all just silly bullshit anyway. There is not a single experience I can compare to these moments and I would give anything to feel that teen MSI atmosphere again. I was infatuated with the philosophy behind it and it helped me understand others and my own place in this world. We are all simply seeking the things that make us happy, and we should stop at absolutely nothing to make this happen. It really helped me stop judging people and to really start to be happy in my own skin. Where the lines between irony, satire, and shock value all blurred together, all being ultimately justified with the phrase "because I want to". This is the influence I needed. Jimmy could wear tutus and prance around singing about his parents fingering him. Why? Because he fucking wanted to. Then him contradicting his own philosophies (making a sellout album after singing about how awful selling out is, becoming edgy and emo after singing about how awful emos can be). This seems to contradict, when actually, it fits right in. He did it simply because he could. Why not be a hypocrite? Who are you hurting? MSI taught us that you can not judge a book by it's cover, that talk is cheap and words and lyrics are bullshit. But if these allegations are true, that flips this all on it's head. Our parents had a right to not let us listen to the old man singing about sex and drugs. That the shock value edge was not just a "fuck you" to those who tried to censor him, and is truly just him being a creep. I used this logic to justify panty shot's existence, thinking all his songs about pedophilia were either him pointing out how horrible it is that these things are normalized in music (I hate jimmy page being about how disgusting pedos are still hugely famous and no one gives a shit), or just him and his odd brand off ultra-ironic-edginess. Now there is a whole new context to these songs. If this does come out to be true, I will be ruined. The single biggest influence on my life was just manipulation from a pedophile. We were his fans with all the love and we were the ones who were fooled. Satire isn't supposed to be real, Jimmy. I really appreciate you going this in depth, as the logic behind their music and personality has been haunting me for a decade. Also one thing I noticed was that their albums fit on a slider. On the left side is "raw crackhead energy", and the right side is "smooth over-arching riffs". The middle is catchy hooks. Albums fit on this scale chronologically. On the left, Tight and despierta los ninos have raw crackhead energy. Frankenstein girls has a mix of the raw energy+smooth riffs+catchy hooks. You'll rebel to anything has much less raw energy but still keeps the smooth riffs and hooks. Then on the right side, How I learned to stop giving a fuck abandoned all crackhead energy and catchy hooks and went for very streamlined hooks, making it pretty unexciting.
@ihateducks4500
@ihateducks4500 Жыл бұрын
I’m not reading all that
@beta5483
@beta5483 Жыл бұрын
He also groomed a 15 year old girl and abused her, hes now in a huge lawsuit
@xs1358
@xs1358 Жыл бұрын
@@ihateducks4500 then don't, but also don't be a douchebag about it
@whipstickagostop2239
@whipstickagostop2239 Жыл бұрын
@ÅňöňýmøùŚö1ıđ shut up freak😭
@whipstickagostop2239
@whipstickagostop2239 Жыл бұрын
this is so me and relatable like u put all of my feelings about this band into perfect words that perfectly explain it all thank u sm
@diggysdungeon
@diggysdungeon 9 ай бұрын
A band like no other. Hate Jimmy for being a piece of shit, but I still love the music he wrote.
@Sexiraina1993
@Sexiraina1993 Жыл бұрын
I remember being like 14 dating a dude that was too old for me who was obsessed with this band. I was introduced to them back then and I have had Bitches and the “do do do do do do” part from Never Wanted To Dance stuck in my head since then.
@NSN_CYND
@NSN_CYND 4 ай бұрын
I got into msi when I was 13 i think I got recommended the shut me up music video or the Pikachu bitches amv i don't remember but i was hooked I think at one point i have heard every msi song available on KZfaq i remember searching for Brooklyn hyped part 2 because i really liked part one Im not really into them anymore the whole lawsuit thing really put me off but i occasionally listen to the KZfaq to mp3 converter downloads i still have, ironically I actually got into my chemical romance because of msi and now my chem are my favourite I even got to see them live I also really like 711 despite never going to one because of MSI and jhonen Vasquez Ok I'll stop yapping now
@D3f3n3strat10n
@D3f3n3strat10n 4 ай бұрын
Just incase you didn't know, Jane doe and Jimmy both decided to drop the court case so idk if that proves if Jimmy is innocent or not but yeah, also apparently Jane doe needed money for surgery
@doublestakked1041
@doublestakked1041 Жыл бұрын
Awwe c'mon, "Kill You All in a Hip Hop Rage" was pure gold.
@laraelkady3212
@laraelkady3212 Жыл бұрын
LIKE A BAD GIRL STRAIGHT TO VIDEO 🗣🗣🗣
@ornevelder
@ornevelder 2 жыл бұрын
This video certainly deserves more attention. This is great!
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! spam your friends with it ;)
@ornevelder
@ornevelder 2 жыл бұрын
@@graymads will do! :D
@xenos_n.
@xenos_n. 9 ай бұрын
Frankenstein Girls was a masterpiece. I bothered everyone blasting that album when it came out when I was 16. Even though their other albums were good, I don't think any of their albums match the energy and perfection of Frankenstein Girls, it was their peak imo.
@joshtoten
@joshtoten 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, that money Elektra put into FGWSSS made it years ahead of everything else. Nobody could ever create that album again, even if they tried.
@tousenkaname231
@tousenkaname231 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for being brave enough to make this video! This band changed my understanding of what music could ans should be. I play MSI regularly along with The Birthday Massacre
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
TBM is also a great band!
@the_seer_0421
@the_seer_0421 Жыл бұрын
@@graymads would you cover them at some point as well? I would love that.
@graymads
@graymads Жыл бұрын
@@the_seer_0421 I definitly plan on it!
@the_seer_0421
@the_seer_0421 Жыл бұрын
@@graymads cool! They're my favorite band. This was my first video from you btw and I really enjoyed it! A well done little retrospective on the band if you will. I wasn't too familiar with them beyond their hits so it definitely helped me to get more insight into them.
@zombiimo5280
@zombiimo5280 10 ай бұрын
The first time I saw Birthday Massacre was with MSI 🥰
@LivingwithPerks
@LivingwithPerks 5 ай бұрын
I got a demo cd from Sam Goody at the mall that featured artists like Linkin Park... but one of the songs on the demo was "I Hate Jimmy Page" this was back in '99. MSI instantly became my favorite band.
@dorkthefork4900
@dorkthefork4900 Жыл бұрын
msi really is something, they have been my favourite band for so long. its just amusing on how they can make such unique music with all that emotion and feelings put right on in there. especialy with their side project the left rights, jimmy urine really is a musical genius
@darthcarnage6734
@darthcarnage6734 Жыл бұрын
I love they got Johnny the homicidal maniac comic creator to create an album cover lol
@camfratus8636
@camfratus8636 2 жыл бұрын
You have some big gonads making a video about MSI after Jimmy’s allegations! Loved this band for ages. Jimmy shaped the way I created my music as a teenager and as young adult and that’s something that will never change, but since what’s come to light it’s just a shame… Much love to all the old and new (sadly unaware) MSI fans out there!
@Slimebeast
@Slimebeast Жыл бұрын
I wish the case hadn't been thrown out so we could see what came of it. As it stands, all we have are an album cover, a song, and a help wanted ad... and no response from the accused. It's frustrating, not knowing what, if anything, there was to know.
@l1fef0rm
@l1fef0rm Жыл бұрын
Not condoning or condemning the frontman's "alleged" actions. This comment is just strange. He shaped the way you created music as a teenager and as an adult and that will never change... then say much love to "sadly unaware". Weren't you sadly unaware too? Is it the music you like, the lyrics/lyrics, or the "message"? What is your point here? You say the guy that made this video has "gonads" for making the video, as you back up the band, only to then immediately condemn them and come off as condescending toward the fans. Are we allowed to listen to/enjoy the music, or not? You can't have both. Are their albums still on your hard drive? Do you still listen to them?
@ToxicWebb
@ToxicWebb Жыл бұрын
​​@@l1fef0rm I am pretty sure they meant that the new fans were unaware of Jimmy's actions, but by the look of the text that part was written a bit weird and should've been more clear. But he rest of the text I can't really decipher.
@dorthelthree
@dorthelthree Жыл бұрын
​@@Slimebeast the case was not thrown out. There is still a case against Jimmy Urine (James Euringer). The charges were voluntarily dropped against Elektra and the guy who does the bass whose name I forget, but not against James Euringer / jimmy urine. If you Google it like the updates on it, it is supposed to be served to James Euringer this year in october
@Slimebeast
@Slimebeast Жыл бұрын
@@dorthelthree It supposedly is no longer on public record.
@user-tj9ko8of4x
@user-tj9ko8of4x Ай бұрын
I literally used the translator all this time just to be able to understand this video (I don't speak fluent English) it's worth it. I can say with certainty that there will NEVER be a band like MSI, two years ago I met the band, and no matter how much I listen to the songs, they never bore me. Jimmy's work independently as well as in the band is excellent, leaving far apart from what he has been accused of lately, good video :)...
@kimackerman2183
@kimackerman2183 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love MIS and Jimmy. I discovered them throughout Invader Zim and the Lollipop Chainsaw game, they are a great band and a few years back Jimmy even liked a few of my tweets, though I haven't heard of them recently but can someone explain why Jimmy has been absent?
@cataptromantia6831
@cataptromantia6831 2 жыл бұрын
He was accused of grooming a teenager.
@hars14
@hars14 Жыл бұрын
he's raising kids :)) and maybe also bc of the allegations? idk tbh
@Ghoul_HNTD
@Ghoul_HNTD 2 жыл бұрын
I listened to If so many times in highschool.
@XRL7official
@XRL7official Жыл бұрын
Great doc, MSI was a big part of my music rotation for years.. We were fortunate enough to have Jimmy voice some characters in our musical webseries X-RL7 before all the drama
@markwullenschneider195
@markwullenschneider195 2 жыл бұрын
12 times I’ve seen them since 2003 when “Alienating our audience” Tour/albl came out. Anticipation of Msi live with Lynz at a half full venue. Never dissatisfied! My kids, ex, ex’s xs and there mom heart lil jimmy!
@Fupdernom
@Fupdernom Жыл бұрын
So happy someone made a video going over all the albums and the intention of some of the songs. Awesome video! You went over a lot of stuff i didnt know too. Their music is so catchy, even though it's so highly controversial. Ive never found another band that sounds anything like MSI.
@Probablylani
@Probablylani Жыл бұрын
Something I learned is that I know less but more simultaneously about this band as time goes on. Like Poppy, I kind of gave up trying to catch up with the “drama” until more time passed. Because just when you think you know-you don’t.
@cairn4719
@cairn4719 Жыл бұрын
absolutely CRIMINAL that you didnt mention stalkers (slit my wrists)
@PisserDick
@PisserDick Жыл бұрын
such a good video, really well put together, love to see other people that love msi as much as i do
@420gzuz
@420gzuz 5 ай бұрын
i really enjoyed this. been an msi fan for a long time. the only thing (justifiably) missing from your video was the left rights... but that's a whole nother bowl of skittles
@dia9221
@dia9221 Жыл бұрын
it’s a shame jimmys actions tainted the band so much
@TLabsLLC-AI-Development
@TLabsLLC-AI-Development Жыл бұрын
It's always so hard to even try to go back but I for sure want to enjoy them again occasionally
@HawRazor
@HawRazor Жыл бұрын
you know those charges were dropped right?
@BiteSizedCrafter
@BiteSizedCrafter Жыл бұрын
@@HawRazor They sure were. He was found to be not guilty. I edited my comment cause the accusation was about it happening in the late 90s not a few years ago. My bad.
@maxii5570
@maxii5570 Жыл бұрын
@@BiteSizedCrafter the accusations wasnt about something that happened in recent times, but something that happened in the late 90s
@beautyandtheoffbeats
@beautyandtheoffbeats Жыл бұрын
I was disappointed in hearing the allegations, hearing one of your favorite bands doing something like that is hurtful. I also liked his wife's band morning wood.
@KaiDecadence
@KaiDecadence Жыл бұрын
MSI was really one of a kind and I'm so grateful that I go to experience their music back in the day when they were one of the bands that I could've easily missed. I was around 13 going on 14 when I discovered them back in 2005 when I heard their song "Stupid MF". I can't remember how I came across them, I think it was from random searching but either way, I thought the song sounded cool and I went out and bought "You'll Rebel to Anything" album shortly after and it became one of my favorite albums, "Straight to Video" is such a good song. I eventually got around to listening to a lot of their other songs and enjoyed most of what I heard. Their sound was just so unique. Like the Birthday Massacre, it was hard to find a band that sounded just like them and I'm just upset that I didn't get exposed to their music sooner. And though their lyrics are randomly immature, it just... works lol And the instrumental work was already solid to begin with (in my opinion)
@hydetheghost
@hydetheghost 3 ай бұрын
they are fcking crazy and i love them for that.
@sneakupandhitya
@sneakupandhitya 5 ай бұрын
bro i love long video essays and msi so this video was awesome. good work man 🔥🔥🔥
@arturos.l.2248
@arturos.l.2248 Жыл бұрын
What about Pink. Pink is one of the best albums
@tsunamijin
@tsunamijin Жыл бұрын
I love your channel. I came for the doc on Malice Mizer because there's so little western discussion about them, besides MANA. Your essays have a strong MTV2 vibe to them. I could watch this right before Headbanger's Ball or the Real World.
@graymads
@graymads Жыл бұрын
Bless
@sempermiser.
@sempermiser. 2 жыл бұрын
Nicee!!! I like how you narrate and cool info about a old band I luvv ^_^
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@WesleyEllisEsquire
@WesleyEllisEsquire Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people found them because of a "Bitches" anime music video from Pokemon. That's how my friend and I found them...
@CodyVondell
@CodyVondell Жыл бұрын
who has full songs/sets saved from their early years before they had fans and would fight with the audience? like 1999-2003. most of these videos are no longer on youtube :(
@thatroverguy1937
@thatroverguy1937 3 ай бұрын
You forget to mention the tapes, I actually have one of the early tapes from one of their first gigs, I think there’s 3 demo/album tapes each has 4-5 tracks on em, and surprisingly a lot of the tracks feature on later albums
@A7XREV
@A7XREV 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man, I love MSI🎸🤘🏿
@xxdeadjhonnyxx
@xxdeadjhonnyxx 2 жыл бұрын
Wow Great video, your narration and editing is very good and comfortable!
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@LautaroGalanCid
@LautaroGalanCid Жыл бұрын
I fucking love MSI and i love you for making this video.
@skeletonkiss1112
@skeletonkiss1112 2 жыл бұрын
A video on MSI? Hell yes.
@theSemiChrist
@theSemiChrist 2 жыл бұрын
Love this analysis. Good to see people still making positive content about Jimmy and Co. rather than just automatically buying in to anonymous complaints about him. Also, don't think I don't hear that Silent Hill menu noise lol.
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
You hear correct. ;)
@starzzixx
@starzzixx 4 ай бұрын
This is super well done
@XxIDONTREMEMBERxX
@XxIDONTREMEMBERxX 3 ай бұрын
Honestly I love MSI but I don’t listen to all there songs I usually just keep finding more as I go but rn I really like them! Really wish I was alive when MSI was touring
@smokedks
@smokedks Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this
@DeaD1te
@DeaD1te 8 күн бұрын
i honestly respect using silent hill pick up sound you use, as i have done for MSI for years
@Mars-hx9wx
@Mars-hx9wx Ай бұрын
You should talk about PINK, I think it’s really interesting! It takes such a turn from how MSI usually is, and is pretty dark considering how unserious they usually are. It’s also js my favorite album lol :D
@internetphia
@internetphia 2 ай бұрын
Still love this video so much. This is what put me on to a lot of their songs.
@Bmorebirdz
@Bmorebirdz 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Thank you.
@graymads
@graymads 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, got more retrospectives on the way!
@lazypix3l949
@lazypix3l949 2 ай бұрын
17:13 "The man who did the world a favor and shot John Lennon" Christ, what the hell did Lennon do? o_o Am i missing something?
@izzybonbizzy
@izzybonbizzy 2 ай бұрын
He was violent towards women, he was a serial philanderer, he viciously attacked a friend for joking about him being gay and he was a neglectful and abusive father
@lazypix3l949
@lazypix3l949 2 ай бұрын
@@izzybonbizzy jesus christ.
@Jaimepilled
@Jaimepilled 6 ай бұрын
Found out about MSI a few months ago n immediately scoffed n wrote them off.. came back to their music a few days ago n it’s genuinely genius. It’s nonsensical in the best way possible and the production is outstanding. If happens to be my favorite, it’s full of nothing but hits!
@TrippVomit666
@TrippVomit666 5 ай бұрын
OH NO! ITS 2024 AND IM STILL LISTENING TO THIS BAND...ITS STILL A GREAT COASTER AND EVERYNOW AND THEN I FLIRT WITH HEART ATTACKS AND DO YAY OFF THE CD CASE...
@virtualgyaru
@virtualgyaru Жыл бұрын
i wish i had the opportunity to see them
@treverhildebrant3848
@treverhildebrant3848 Жыл бұрын
I feel like he’s not innocent but he’s also too easy a target.
@tobidos4717
@tobidos4717 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@doomdegree2584
@doomdegree2584 8 ай бұрын
19:51 Man with due credit to KMFDM and Skinny Puppy, the godfathers of Industrial, you've got my respect and my subscribe.
@semidesert_cat
@semidesert_cat 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@IsmaelQ2Q2Q22
@IsmaelQ2Q2Q22 2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t covered the album despierta los ninos from mindless self indulgence anyways great video I will always love mindless self indulgence forever and ever 🤘🎸
@Sry342
@Sry342 Жыл бұрын
I also love Despierta los Ninos, it's kind of underrated but it's soooo good!
@bastardcore7560
@bastardcore7560 10 ай бұрын
yeah!! and less than three is so good too (
@missylee5
@missylee5 25 күн бұрын
MSI put on the best show I've ever seen!! Wish they would come back!
@MAXAMILLIONMAN
@MAXAMILLIONMAN 2 ай бұрын
Good video and interesting take on You'll Rebel to Anything. Thats probably my third favorite? Nothing beats Frankenstein Girls and the live album Alienating our Audience if you count that i certainly do.
@Skollscatha
@Skollscatha Жыл бұрын
Finally a good deep dive of one my favorite bands a fuckjng g classic
@nogrecords
@nogrecords 2 ай бұрын
ØRGY RULES!!! **STILL** just saw them in Knoxville over the weekend and they were AMAZING! *I realize that's not the point of this video, but you mentioned Ørgy, so I thought I'd share that with you* 😂
@missylee5
@missylee5 25 күн бұрын
You're not a true MSI fan if you're commenting about "Jimmy's actions tainting the band" or similar BS. You can't be a snowflake and an MSI fan. MSI til I die. Love you Jimmy!
@user-vm8vd9ik1r
@user-vm8vd9ik1r 3 ай бұрын
Personally i really liked how i learned to stop giving a shit with some of my favourite songs such as it gets worse and fuck machine it isnt my favourite album but i think its decent, either way great video
@summerwise5833
@summerwise5833 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video
@Dr00zk1
@Dr00zk1 Жыл бұрын
My first MSI album was Youll Rebel, but i remember audiograbbing all of IF on myspace when they were releasing it lol
@nesamdoom
@nesamdoom 7 ай бұрын
MSI is how I used to see if people wanted to fight in bars. I love me some fun.
@cyxx414
@cyxx414 Жыл бұрын
goddd msi is still such a big part of me back when i discovered them they rly molded my personality finally i had a place to be at w the weirdos and freaks jimmys allegations rly fucked it all up i used to idolize him this still hurts
@Krilium
@Krilium 14 күн бұрын
Limewire got me into MSI. I remember singing Stupid MF in PRIMARY school!
@enderbugg
@enderbugg 2 ай бұрын
in the late 90's msi apparently shared a practice space with leftover crack, another band you should look at
@CemalMirza
@CemalMirza 5 ай бұрын
I
@RainBearsthatlikelazytrees
@RainBearsthatlikelazytrees 3 ай бұрын
It’s so unfortunate looking now and seeing that he ended up abusing a minor. His music will always live on though. Very unique and underrated music.
@someguy8
@someguy8 2 ай бұрын
absolutely love MSI
@greendayrocks559
@greendayrocks559 4 ай бұрын
glad I got see them on the tour for their last album
@Conwayandjoeadventures
@Conwayandjoeadventures 12 күн бұрын
One of the best concerts I ever seen
@choke666
@choke666 11 ай бұрын
I FUKKN LOVE EM' NO MATTER WHAT. THEY FUKKN KILL IT ON STAGE TOO!
@SecretSocietyofGoths
@SecretSocietyofGoths 5 ай бұрын
i need yall to underdstand how hard i used to jam bring the pain
@divine555
@divine555 5 ай бұрын
Fr, though I don't support any of the creators for their awful actions but by god is their music incredible and speaks to my soul deeply, I understand why my friend always talks about this band and it's songs
@SecretSocietyofGoths
@SecretSocietyofGoths 5 ай бұрын
@divine555 yea sometimes it's the last person you suspect. Other times it's jimmy urine
@twelvevoltage
@twelvevoltage 4 ай бұрын
That's crazy because I do the same but for the tighter version
@joshelderkin9592
@joshelderkin9592 Жыл бұрын
I saw these guys in like freshman year and i didnt see it happen but like right next to me somebody got their lip ring pulled out
@sleepykat666
@sleepykat666 6 ай бұрын
Cant believe you didnt mention anything about "it gets worse" off their last album, its a banger. Also the Euringer album was actually pretty good. Not sure why it didnt catch on.
@asha4736
@asha4736 Жыл бұрын
Of all the places in rhe world, Jimmy and his wife/kid are now living down the road from me in New Zealand lmao
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