The DANGEROUS Lengths Scientology Went to Destroy Marc Headley

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Cults to Consciousness

Cults to Consciousness

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Scientology Sea Org employees who work at the headquarters in Southern California, are treated like prisoners. After Marc was falsely accused of embezzling money, they threatened to take hime away from his wife to put him in a rehabilitation center. His only other option was a dangerous escape off of the property. Learn how a civilian saved his life, and how Scientology began to stalk and harass Marc and his family for speaking out about the abuses within the organization.
Watch pt 1 here: • SCIENTOLOGY: When A Co...
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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:58 The beginning of Marc's dramatic escape out of Scientology Headquarters!
00:07:23 The Sheriffs come. Whose side are they on?
00:13:22 When Marc realized he could be making REAL money outside Scientology
00:16:49 The beginning of getting "fair gamed" by Scientology
00:19:29 Confidential internal documents about Marc
00:24:27 Scientology turned Marc's "friends" against him and turned them into spies
00:25:59 Is this the end of Scientology?
00:31:10 Is Scientology STILL harassing Marc and Claire?
00:36:57 Craziest thing they have done to Marc
00:39:38 Linda, listen
00:44:24 Find and support Marc and the Aftermath Foundation
Theme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara
*Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.*

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@juliemiller2658
@juliemiller2658 11 ай бұрын
It’s crazy that this organization gets tax exempt status from the government, even though every one knows they are basically kiddnappers
@Zekrom569
@Zekrom569 10 ай бұрын
yes, they tried once to revoke their tax exempt status and the IRS got dozens of lawsuits and legal shenanigans, unfortunately they dont play with their "fair game" policy and that's what got them to actually reinstate it. Unfortunately the IRS decides if an organization is a religion or not and they cracked under the pressure of this money machine, but lets hope after the revelations from countless ex-scientologists will lead to some kind of action against them
@kelliintexas3575
@kelliintexas3575 10 ай бұрын
THE CHURCH OF SATAN HAS TAX EXEMPT STATUS.
@getupandgo77
@getupandgo77 11 ай бұрын
I don't understand how this is not kidnapping or at a minimum unlawful confinement
@michaelwagner8859
@michaelwagner8859 11 ай бұрын
Marc Headley and his wife Claire are amazing warriors and truly inspirational...and beautiful people... so happy to see Marc as your guest!!!
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@jskeyboardwarrior-pe9kn
@jskeyboardwarrior-pe9kn 24 күн бұрын
Claire, who everyone was afraid of for YEARS...but she's okay now...yeah right
@BeachLover1965
@BeachLover1965 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate Mark’s levity given the harrowing situations he and Claire went through. I can’t believe the extraordinary lengths that Scientology will go to keep someone quiet. It “blows” me away!
@svetlanaherhorses6526
@svetlanaherhorses6526 11 ай бұрын
Marc is such a sweet man! He's so kind and gentle and honest to us, vulnerable to us so he can educate us about the heinous crimes committed by Scientology. Thanks Shelise to bring him into this beautiful conversation and thanks Marc to go two episodes in a row!
@justkiddin84
@justkiddin84 11 ай бұрын
And funny! I hate that they monopolized him for so long! But really glad he and Claire are free!😉♥️✌️
@svetlanaherhorses6526
@svetlanaherhorses6526 11 ай бұрын
​@@justkiddin84 Right? Love both of them!
@mmmmmmmmaria
@mmmmmmmmaria 11 ай бұрын
his stage presence and storytelling is just next level! absolutely horrid what he went through but i admire the strength and humour with which he’s handling it so much
@katwitanruna
@katwitanruna 11 ай бұрын
Break the silence. Break the cycle.
@katwitanruna
@katwitanruna 11 ай бұрын
@@teagunn Huh? How?
@teagunn
@teagunn 11 ай бұрын
@@katwitanruna Apologies, my response was meant to be made as a comment, not a reply. That will teach me for not wearing my glasses! 🙄🤓
@katwitanruna
@katwitanruna 11 ай бұрын
@@teagunn I’ve done similar things. I even made a graphic about it. 😂
@brandyisblue
@brandyisblue 11 ай бұрын
Exactly
@lisasante254
@lisasante254 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing Marks story!
@windycityliz7711
@windycityliz7711 11 ай бұрын
I am just in awe of the basic humanity of the Headleys and how that survived years of cult abuse.
@chrisburgman1580
@chrisburgman1580 11 ай бұрын
What a nightmare.Psycopathy at an extreme level. Who needs hell when you have Cults like this.
@theakaneko
@theakaneko 11 ай бұрын
Just finished the episode. Love Mark and Claire and how wild their escapes were and so glad they managed, and that their marriage survived both the pressures being in and after leaving. I am totally with Mark in the "but I got run off the road on a motorcycle and all they wanna ask about is Tom?!" disbelief... But now that he has said he has some juicy and unflattering Tom Cruise stories 😂😂
@franciet99
@franciet99 11 ай бұрын
Agree with you. The survived as a couple despite their childhood and Scientology. Amazing!
@Julia-uh4li
@Julia-uh4li 11 ай бұрын
​@@franciet99 And just celebrated their 31st wedding anniversary last week or the week before. They are amazing 💛
@user-ec6fq4ni9o
@user-ec6fq4ni9o 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Marc, I enjoyed #2 as well.
@obgfoster
@obgfoster 11 ай бұрын
Aftermath-type stories would be great additions - how Mark, Claire & the other entered society after their abnormal childhoods and "work" life would be of interest for anybody who has to start their lives over from scratch.
@justkiddin84
@justkiddin84 11 ай бұрын
Yes! Coping mechanisms would be very helpful-Shalise touches on this usually-but maybe a round table style thing where they compare notes about this.
@Lisa.E.decide2thrive
@Lisa.E.decide2thrive 11 ай бұрын
Yes! The round-table formats make for interesting AND entertaining episodes. Together guests often serendipitously discover connections or stories *new* to them. Claire & Mark are shining lights not only for exposing Scientoogy, but for providing support to anyone living the nightmare of coercive control. I love episodes when they share screens w/their peers. You laugh a lot & feel like you're included in the fun.👏❤️
@KathyAnne28
@KathyAnne28 11 ай бұрын
You should check out the story of Serge Obolensky on Blown for Good. It shows a former scientologist (serge) who lost his hands and an eye due to scientology and was left to live on the streets outside the LA Org for years before Aftermath (and Marc and Claire). He's doing great!
@justkiddin84
@justkiddin84 11 ай бұрын
@@KathyAnne28 wow. Thanks!
@Serenaincali
@Serenaincali 11 ай бұрын
Mark’s and Claire’s story is so interesting. I’m so glad they were able to escape and have a family and a happy life. Cults are so evil
@amykru
@amykru 11 ай бұрын
I really love this guest and am so glad that he escaped with his wife and is exposing the for-profit organization masquerading as a religion. I wish him great success in bringing scientology to its knees and into its grave. I would love to see all of the victims receive giant payouts as the result of litigation.
@dianacryer
@dianacryer 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, they could divide that 3 billion and give it to the ex Scientologists and it still wouldn’t be enough.
@Grace_Psychology
@Grace_Psychology 11 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how much deprogramming needs to be done even after leaving
@annemurphy8074
@annemurphy8074 11 ай бұрын
It takes years.
@RobertaReal7980
@RobertaReal7980 11 ай бұрын
What a fantastic interview. Marc is one of the true success stories as a survivor of Scientology. I would love to see more interviews with Marc & Claire in the future.❤
@Weissguys6
@Weissguys6 11 ай бұрын
Thank God, for once Riverside County Sheriffs didn’t let us down. I live here and I’ve been so disappointed to hear they do nothing about the RPF and people trapped there. At least, they helped Mark!
@starlingswallow
@starlingswallow 11 ай бұрын
Scientology is going DOWN!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 BlownforGood~ you, good sir, are AMAZING!!!!!!
@ruthc8407
@ruthc8407 11 ай бұрын
The picture of Headley passed out on the sidewalk is friggin' hilarious.
@tiffanymorgan4445
@tiffanymorgan4445 10 ай бұрын
I love this channel. She handles the interviews so well and the interviews (and interviewees) provide so much educational/insightful information. So concerning that this is going on in “the greatest country in the world” and is not mainstream news EVERYDAY!
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Tiffany!
@Carole.P
@Carole.P 11 ай бұрын
Dave Miscavige certainly knew he’d lost out when Marc Blew. DM is so sadistic and paranoid. Great 2nd part interview. Marc really is a gem 🖖
@kylablack8990
@kylablack8990 11 ай бұрын
Shelise, you brought out the very best of Marc. I've followed Marc and Claire for years and I've NEVER seen him funnier or more charming than he was on your channel. Looking forward to part three!
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you! I love hearing that!🥰 he was great! So much fun
@mitsim
@mitsim 11 ай бұрын
I just love Marc's stories. He really gives you such insight into this cult, and his humor shows how ludicrous the COS and DM are. Thanks for interviewing him!
@freedombuckofive9640
@freedombuckofive9640 11 ай бұрын
This same situation Marc talks about here -> 15:37 happened to me in Scientology. Unfortunately my wife at the time chose Scientology / family over me. I am still somewhat bitter over that but I can understand that is no kind of choice to make. Hopefully they will all wake up one day.
@Jazzy.girl.Sarah2023
@Jazzy.girl.Sarah2023 11 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry. That's rough.
@lindatannock
@lindatannock 11 ай бұрын
Surely forcing people back to Scientology when they try to leave is kidnapping/abduction, if they don't want to go? Why are the police not doing more if they're doing illegal things? Makes no sense! I'm so glad Marc got nice cops the day he was escaping. He was so lucky someone reported him being run off the road. Looking forward to you having Marc back. He's a great guest! 💗🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@PokemonRules333
@PokemonRules333 11 ай бұрын
Well money talks in this country that’s probably why Scientology gets away with these things
@pamelashaffer5108
@pamelashaffer5108 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for including our most loved SPTV crue, i am now subscribed to your channel also. You are wonderful.
@bonniemeyer1301
@bonniemeyer1301 11 ай бұрын
Marc is a great storyteller! Absolutely incredible what he went through in Scientology and then trying to get out.
@skyjust828
@skyjust828 11 ай бұрын
Yes 41:11 if youre in any abusive relationship this is how it is😭 if you know someone who is in an abusive relationship please don't just ask "why dont you leave?" Theres often no place to go, theyve been kept from family ect & theres nowhere to go!
@Annemarie01967
@Annemarie01967 11 ай бұрын
I could listen to Marc all day , he is such a great raconteur.. so glad you have a happy life now Marc!
@pemman
@pemman 11 ай бұрын
A brilliant part 2! The old adage of '...truth is stranger than fiction...' certainly applies in this scenario. Thank you Sherise and Marc :) :)
@sharonminer9350
@sharonminer9350 11 ай бұрын
The SPTV community is the best! We got you Shalize!
@cruiselife2023
@cruiselife2023 11 ай бұрын
I've listened to Marc's audiobook x2 and was still on the edge of my seat listening to his escape
@lesliewells-ig5dl
@lesliewells-ig5dl 11 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you had two parts each with Claire and Mark!! Thank you! You are really good at doing these interviews, with the fine line of empathy, understanding and humor. I really admire that and I don't a lot of people would be able keep that balance the way you do!!
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
What a kind compliment! 🥰 blushing over here. Thank you so much!
@lesliewells-ig5dl
@lesliewells-ig5dl 11 ай бұрын
@@CultstoConsciousness You are welcome!!!
@nikkisaturno.
@nikkisaturno. 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for introducing us to Marc and Claire! Their stories are so important and they just seem like the nicest down to earth people
@lorrainefranchi9105
@lorrainefranchi9105 11 ай бұрын
Mark and Claire's story would make a great movie - there's intrigue, suspense,high speed chases, our hero being run off the road- its got it ALL!
@cannibalculture4499
@cannibalculture4499 11 ай бұрын
Cults to Consciousness is one of my top three favorite channels! All three are tied for #1, and the other two have been guests on your channel. That being said, HOW IN THE WORLD HAS SCIENTOLOGY NOT COLLAPSED BY NOW?! Everyone knows they're insane, and everyone knows Tom Cruise and David Miscavige are insane. It is just a matter of time before they're done. I don't even get how it got this far to begin with. LRH was a total JOKE! Sending love to you and all your guests.
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
Aww I’m honored! Thank you! Great question. I give it….40 years to be completely irrelevant
@cannibalculture4499
@cannibalculture4499 11 ай бұрын
@@CultstoConsciousness I just did a great big fan girl dance around my house. My cats' theory that I've lost my mind is now 100% confirmed I think. 🤣💖😻
@nsasupporter7557
@nsasupporter7557 11 ай бұрын
@@CultstoConsciousnessI want to be on this podcast, I have a story to share!
@emilyrln
@emilyrln 11 ай бұрын
That is one hell of a story! I'm so glad Marc and Claire are out and doing well 💕
@AK.kje11
@AK.kje11 11 ай бұрын
Can’t say enough abt how wonderful Marc and Claire are.
@scarletfalanges
@scarletfalanges 11 ай бұрын
Episode 2 did not disappoint! Marc is the fantastic human and his and Claire's channel is excellent
@greenliter1
@greenliter1 11 ай бұрын
He seems amazing, I love his energy
@firststepshardest1656
@firststepshardest1656 11 ай бұрын
You're all very resilient and I'm proud of you ❤
@Julia-uh4li
@Julia-uh4li 11 ай бұрын
Marc & Claire's inside information (along with the rest of the SPtv crew) is so invaluable to the world. I can absolutely imagine anyone watching these interviews would instantly think, 'WOW, that's an organization to avoid at all costs!' Growing Up In Scientology with Aaron Levin Smith is another great channel I very highly recommend to anyone wanting raw, unadulterated information, and he's a hoot as well. P.S. HI OSA👋 if you're ready to leave CoS, please reach out to The Aftermath Foundation. I wish you all the luck in the world.
@makanivalur
@makanivalur 11 ай бұрын
These two episodes were incredible! Just had to buy the audiobook version of Blown For Good because I really want more of his storytelling. Insane story but somehow very entertainingly presented.
@hopegold883
@hopegold883 11 ай бұрын
You’re gonna love it. He narrates it himself. I couldn’t “put it down”.
@joward481
@joward481 11 ай бұрын
Yes 💯 agree you will love it for sure 🤗
@kimwexlersponytail
@kimwexlersponytail 11 ай бұрын
Saw Marc and his wife on Leah and Mike's show and watch their content on KZfaq Wonderful couple who have picked up the pieces of their lives, built a happy family and help others who leave via the Aftermath Foundation Every one of the ex Scientologists who bravely appeared on the Aftermath show can be proud of how much it highlighted the evil practices of that cult It must have made a huge difference to recruitment and been a massive bug up Miscavage's butt 👍
@brendapatterson7123
@brendapatterson7123 11 ай бұрын
Love Marc,Claire and the entire SPTV crew!
@bes03c
@bes03c 11 ай бұрын
I have heard Marc's story multiple times in different interviews and it still amazes me.
@chimaknits
@chimaknits 11 ай бұрын
Mark sense of humour was a great way to listen to a sad story. Good job 👍🏼
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening
@mychemical74
@mychemical74 11 ай бұрын
I❤Marc and Claire , Marc is a wonderful funny storyteller .🇬🇧
@sirtedricwalker2979
@sirtedricwalker2979 11 ай бұрын
This video made me subscribe. Hope Leah has these papers to sue the HELL out of this CULT of SOCIOPATHS.
@dominikaMickiewicz
@dominikaMickiewicz 11 ай бұрын
Sooo great to see Headleys on your channel! Thank you ❤
@gailcarney3630
@gailcarney3630 11 ай бұрын
Love listening to Marc!
@Doe808eoD
@Doe808eoD 11 ай бұрын
Waiting for the Mike Rinder interview next!
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
Us too! 😁 we will reach out when he’s feeling better
@jessicaC8083
@jessicaC8083 11 ай бұрын
I was just watching Claire and Sterling's video and when I finished, part 2 of your interview with Marc was up!! Thank you for all your hard work. We appreciate you sharing cult survivors' stories with us. ❤
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@missymurphy9996
@missymurphy9996 11 ай бұрын
I love the way Marc tells his story. He’s such a storyteller
@mama2dinga
@mama2dinga 11 ай бұрын
❤❤❤ Thank you Marc fie sharing your Amazing life experiences. Ever since I heard that Tom Cruise was In Scientology I chose not to watch any of his movies.
@Yourmomashley8
@Yourmomashley8 11 ай бұрын
This channel puts in so much work! I just got done listening to the first part and low and behold, part 2 is already out ✨
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
We do our best! Thanks for watching and supporting! (And recognizing our efforts) ❤️🙏
@sharonminer9350
@sharonminer9350 11 ай бұрын
Marc is always such a great interview!
@TheJoematarazzo
@TheJoematarazzo 11 ай бұрын
Mark and Claire are the best two interviews for the SPTV group.
@spcmcpants
@spcmcpants 11 ай бұрын
Hell yes I made it to the end. I cannot get enough. I'm happy Marc didn't die or get injured when he was run off the road, and thank goodness for back-up cameras, huh?!! Thank you all!
@islesofshoals3551
@islesofshoals3551 11 ай бұрын
You're the best storyteller Marc. Bless you
@Jazzy.girl.Sarah2023
@Jazzy.girl.Sarah2023 11 ай бұрын
This is so wild. Thanks for sharing this interview with Marc Headley.
@EveningTV
@EveningTV 11 ай бұрын
My ex husband must have gone to Scientology's Fair Game School! He is a diagnosed sociopath, however, so I think that makes it pretty clear what is wrong with L.Ron Hubbard and DM
@trevanon7450
@trevanon7450 11 ай бұрын
I like the streamyard special effects when Marc raises him thumb. 🤣
@MalikaBourne
@MalikaBourne 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad you got out. Thank you for sharing.I hope you can still be safe.
@Joyzee86
@Joyzee86 11 ай бұрын
You are a great interviewer. You ask insightful questions. I watch Marc and Claire's youtube channel all the time. I've read Marc's book.. But I've learned things that I didn't know before listening to your interviews with Marc & Claire. Really enjoyed watching all 4 interviews.
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! That’s so great to hear! I appreciate the feedback. Thanks for watching 😁
@zippymacadoo6336
@zippymacadoo6336 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Marc for bringing the laughter ❤
@smoore7614
@smoore7614 11 ай бұрын
Marc is such an entertaining guest. Thanks for having him on!
@Kati-did
@Kati-did 11 ай бұрын
Yea Maybe a Marc and Clare episode! Love these!!!
@froggyjen9791
@froggyjen9791 11 ай бұрын
I had to clip the "Linda, Listen!" section for someone. Thank you for such an amazing story, everyone!
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
Aww yay! That’s great!!
@julie_leo_monkey
@julie_leo_monkey 11 ай бұрын
Shelise, thanks for the second part of Marc's interview. Your doing a great job. As I wrote in my comment in the previous episode I purchased the hard back of Blown for Good. The great thing is when purchased directly both Marc and Claire sign them which I like getting signed items by those brave enough to inspire people like me who have not been part of what they have, learning about Marc, Claire, Mike and so on is eye opening and educational along with others who have gone through so much . Keep up the great work!
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I love that!
@pamelacrawford4105
@pamelacrawford4105 11 ай бұрын
Love Mark and Claire 😊😊😊 They are really good people. 😊😊😊
@dramatriangle
@dramatriangle 11 ай бұрын
I forgot how awesome Marc Headley is!
@themenna007
@themenna007 11 ай бұрын
Hi OSA! Come on out - you get to sleep as long as you want, and eat what you want. The Aftermath Foundation will help you to get a job, accommodation, team you to drive and get a car, and support. #SPTV #WHERESSHELLEY #freebobferris Thanks again Shelise ❤ I'm a proud member of the SPTV community, and I'm a Neverin - never been in $cientology!
@annamittal8319
@annamittal8319 11 ай бұрын
Was looking for part 2 yesterday and I’m so excited it’s already here. Thank you for all you do!
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!😁
@womenfrom0202
@womenfrom0202 11 ай бұрын
OSA is being kept sooooo busy with the enormous number of SPTV channels and interviews given by ex-CoS’sts
@tracischuller329
@tracischuller329 11 ай бұрын
I've said this before in comments on some of these Scientology videos, years & years & years ago, when I was super young, I saw a commercial for Dianetics. The book Dianetics was advertised as a self help book that teaches you how to get a mindset that will get you to be able to solve all your problems by yourself. That sounded really good to me, so I thought about getting it. A few days after I saw that commercial, I said to my mom, "Hey, I'm going to get this book called "Dianetics"..." and before I could tell her anything else, she said "You don't want that book, they're nothing but a G.D. cult!!" I've often wondered, after seeing so many Scientology stories, what might have happened to me had I purchased that book.
@KeilahMcDonald
@KeilahMcDonald 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love that you are having all of the different MAJOR voices from the ex-scientology people ❤
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
We do too! 😁
@alltaira5922
@alltaira5922 11 ай бұрын
Love to Marc and Claire! Such an amazing pair! I rather hear more from Marc about himself so definitely will buy his book.
@turner23kc
@turner23kc 11 ай бұрын
Love Marc and Claire and all the SPTV crew! The more people who the stories reach the closer to ending Scientology. Thanks for all you do getting the stories out there.
@laurenakalumi1775
@laurenakalumi1775 11 ай бұрын
Every time I listen to Mark, I think of Aaron, and when I listen to Aaron, I think of Mark. They both speak so well, and both use comedy to lighten the tone. If you don't laugh, you'll cry, right?
@lacibrotherton
@lacibrotherton 11 ай бұрын
Marc Headley rocks. Buy his book if you don't already have it.
@oleeb
@oleeb 11 ай бұрын
Former Seaorg members should sue Scientology for wage theft. I think that would be pretty easy to prove in court. You might consider doing it as a class action suit.
@CathyMiller0711
@CathyMiller0711 11 ай бұрын
I've watched many of your interviews but I think both of Mark's were the best. He's a great storyteller and what a story he has to tell! That Scientology is some crazy s---t! Can't wait to see the next video.
@Beginnerreadsthebible
@Beginnerreadsthebible 11 ай бұрын
This is SO nuts. If it wasn't you interviewing these people, I'm not sure I would believe this is all true! It literally sounds like a science fiction novel.
@juneb5975
@juneb5975 11 ай бұрын
I'm definitely more interested in Mark's story than in Tom's story. But if Tom escapes, I'd listen to that story, too!
@katwitanruna
@katwitanruna 11 ай бұрын
Liked, shared and commented!! So excited for the second part!
@tbella5186
@tbella5186 11 ай бұрын
Mark is so entertaining! I think I can speak for most in saying we'll watch any interviews with him! I had no idea they founded the Aftermath Foundation, they are amazing. Also I have the Tom Cruise Crazy song stuck in my head now....
@hopegold883
@hopegold883 11 ай бұрын
O thanks. I’ll check it out
@tbella5186
@tbella5186 11 ай бұрын
@@hopegold883 You will NOT regret it lol!
@ehayes7849
@ehayes7849 11 ай бұрын
Hey BFG ... you guys rock - thanks for exposing evil.
@LudmilaT.
@LudmilaT. 11 ай бұрын
Someone in a prison: hey, i'm thinking about leaving 🤔
@sandybowers5085
@sandybowers5085 11 ай бұрын
Made it to the end❤I love Marc and the way you interact with him, Shalise! Great video!! Thanks so much for sharing with us 🥰
@Beginnerreadsthebible
@Beginnerreadsthebible 11 ай бұрын
This is what you think of when you think of a cult!
@tatianagranger2427
@tatianagranger2427 11 ай бұрын
Anyone else want to be on his list of clients so we get those letters???? I’d LOVE IT!!! How much do I have to donate to get on it?? ❤
@annecasillas5402
@annecasillas5402 11 ай бұрын
Great follow up with Mark! Thank you so much Shelise for doing this interview (and hopefully more with Mark and Claire!) and all the work you do for brave people who share their stories and bring awareness to all the rest of us. 💜💜
@purpledragonfly313
@purpledragonfly313 11 ай бұрын
Great interview 🤗 I know I said that at part 1, too, but Marc is great and he can make you laugh almost no matter what ❤ Love that! Amazing survival skill ❤
@xxx...pyxidis
@xxx...pyxidis 11 ай бұрын
Yah for you Mark, and Claire too - I am so happy for you both - bring down those nasty money grabbing bastards.
@corneliusantonius3108
@corneliusantonius3108 11 ай бұрын
Nicest cops ever.
@sarahforbear9978
@sarahforbear9978 11 ай бұрын
Marc's blow story never gets old, loved this episode x thanks both x
@alison2649
@alison2649 11 ай бұрын
But it seems like the media doesn’t want to touch those documents! 😩😩😡Please someone get 20/20 involved
@GrumpyVickyH
@GrumpyVickyH 11 ай бұрын
Mark is always fun, and so is Shelise. So enjoyed this two parter. 🌹🌹🌹
@CultstoConsciousness
@CultstoConsciousness 11 ай бұрын
😁❤️
@BeKindBeFree
@BeKindBeFree 11 ай бұрын
Thank you you for not giving in to fear and sharing your platform with Marc and Claire. Scientology has had too much success being the bully and I’m tired of the continuing message that bullies win. It’s so hard to resist making some decisions out of fear. I think maybe fear more then hate is the opposite of love. So thank you for the example, I recognize it is not easy to expose yourself to the bullies. ❤ P.S. I could listen to Marc all day, there is so much hope and F U oppressor in his stories. 😊
@kazferns64
@kazferns64 11 ай бұрын
Another great interview! Thanks so much for having Marc on!
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