The Dangers of the Seeker-Sensitive Movement | Dr. Steven J. Lawson & Costi Hinn

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For the Gospel

For the Gospel

7 ай бұрын

The seeker-driven, attractional church model has taken over modern evangelicalism. In the video, Dr. Steven J. Lawson shares with Costi Hinn why this philosophy is such a danger to the spiritual health of a church.
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@Dennis-gn1nq
@Dennis-gn1nq 7 ай бұрын
"We gather to worship, we scatter to preach the gospel. ".. Amen for that.
@lenpalajc5634
@lenpalajc5634 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying the purpose of the church is not for the unsaved!! It's for the believers! So rare to find anyone who believes this.
@rrickarr
@rrickarr 3 ай бұрын
and yet Jesus spent his ministry preaching to the unconverted!
@DSSarkar-ln4lj
@DSSarkar-ln4lj 2 ай бұрын
​@@rrickarr You didn't watch the entire video did you ? And by the way, how did Jesus preach to the sinful people ? Did He say things for their itching ears or did He say "Repent, for the Kingdom is at hand" ?
@michaelstjean7050
@michaelstjean7050 7 ай бұрын
“We don’t need the ushers to tuck you into bed” 😂😂
@cherylgeary5591
@cherylgeary5591 7 ай бұрын
I am SO SO SO GRATEFUL for all our Truth Teacher's & Preacher's!!! Coming out of the Charismatic Chaos, I have FINALLY been being sanctified and renewing my mind with the Truth of The Word. It was September 2015 when I accidentally happened upon Justin Peters while looking for a Beth Moore teaching. Listening to Justin changed my life! I questioned so much of what our church was preaching & teaching, and I was the secretary for almost four years. I would ask my Pastor of why we don't do what the Word commands us, each time I would be given a sugar coated lie. I Praise God, Jesus & The Holy Spirit for saving me out from these false teacher's who are just wolves in sheep clothing. Thank you Steve, Costi, MacArthur, Washer and all the teacher's who Truly Truly care about the Gospel and sharing it with the lost! God Bless You All.
@uglypie670
@uglypie670 7 ай бұрын
I was raised Catholic and when my dad married my step mom, we started attending a charismatic church so I never knew anything outside of that until the past year really. It gives me courage hearing your testimony. Thank you for sharing! May the Lord be with you as you continue to grow in your faith. ☺️
@cherylgeary5591
@cherylgeary5591 7 ай бұрын
Continue in The Bible and pray for understanding, knowledge and God’s wisdom as you read The Word. Continue to learn the Truth from these men OG God who wholeheartedly desire the lost to be saved.
@cherylgeary5591
@cherylgeary5591 7 ай бұрын
Continue in The Bible and pray for understanding, knowledge and God’s wisdom as you read The Word. Continue to learn the Truth from these men OG God who wholeheartedly desire the lost to be saved.
@dwightWSmith73
@dwightWSmith73 7 ай бұрын
And speaking of the singing, it should not be from Hillsong, Bethel, or Elevation. So many, if not all of the current seeker friendly churches sing nothing but music from these three organizations.
@sarasigman2000
@sarasigman2000 7 ай бұрын
👏👏
@spiritman-em4qr
@spiritman-em4qr 7 ай бұрын
My wife and I attend a biblical church. We sing old church hymns and some new music. I think that it's okay to play the occasional hillsong tune, so long as it's biblical lyrically, followed by sound teaching, and in a congregation of rooted believers who are able to separate the wheat from the chaff.
@jennamarielovesjesus12
@jennamarielovesjesus12 7 ай бұрын
Amen and Amen I’m SO grateful and thankful that my church don’t sing ANY songs from Hellsong, BetHeLL, Helevation, Jesus Culture (there’s a few more , just can’t think right now) That music is of the devil and all u have to do is listen to the “preaching” and all the strange fire that they do, sooOoooo sad !!!!!!!
@jennamarielovesjesus12
@jennamarielovesjesus12 7 ай бұрын
@@sheilal5852AGREED 10000%
@Mojo32
@Mojo32 7 ай бұрын
​@@sheilal5852I agree. I'd also say abstain from all the "Jesus culture" type music, other affiliated names are Passion, Maverick City, Phil Wickam, etc. as you said there is a good chance there are people in the congregation who lack Biblical discernment, and those who may understand don't want to associate anyways.
@jeffshimkus9437
@jeffshimkus9437 7 ай бұрын
Our worship should be all about our God and none about us.
@marilynbenthien
@marilynbenthien 7 ай бұрын
So true! Sadly. So many have bought into the seeker-friendly pattern! I so long for a church that's like the one Steve Lawson describes.
@inchristalone25
@inchristalone25 7 ай бұрын
Amen! Great message. We can't rearrange our church services for the unbelievers who can't handle the truth.
@krystle8287
@krystle8287 7 ай бұрын
It’s SO refreshing to hear this. The church he describes is exactly the one I’ve been praying for, that I can be a part of & plug into so that I can go out & do the Good Lord’s will. They no longer exist in rural, suburban America; seeker-sensitive churches abound out here, at least where I’m at.. it’s so sad. Good churches are minimum 45 min to an hour away.. not at all like it used to be, the other way around. I’m still praying & hoping. I think a big move is long overdue for me, truly. By His grace. ❤🙏🏼
@EphSBGGSO
@EphSBGGSO 7 ай бұрын
Too many churches, including my own, have turned their services from worship into theater.
@user-qp3bi4ix3g
@user-qp3bi4ix3g 2 ай бұрын
Very bad 😢😢😢
@user-qp3bi4ix3g
@user-qp3bi4ix3g 2 ай бұрын
It,s a great discoshow to manipulate the Christian
@JamesGaoist
@JamesGaoist 3 ай бұрын
0:33 was the best chuckle in all of church history
@gustavorocha6004
@gustavorocha6004 3 ай бұрын
100% Sure! kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@lizshella
@lizshella 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for preaching the truth!! The church is/is for the believers.
@jerryanderson3181
@jerryanderson3181 6 ай бұрын
Costi Hinn God bless you my brother being who your Uncle Benny Hinn is not judging him but for you to walk away from i am sure a very lucrative position you had with him and you walked away for THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST wow what a testimony testimony
@jjd1983
@jjd1983 7 ай бұрын
Amen brothers! Hate sin, fear God, and the Holy Spirit will do the work.
@Dennis-gn1nq
@Dennis-gn1nq 7 ай бұрын
"We gather to worship, we scatter to witness . ".. Amen for that.
@downsify
@downsify 4 ай бұрын
This was so good, oh my gosh! Yes, unbelievers will not feel warm and fuzzy, and all comfy at church. We need to know the bad news about ourselves before we'll ever understand the good news of the gospel.
@Grace_needGodeveryday
@Grace_needGodeveryday 2 ай бұрын
"the Good News is not the Good News until you know what the bad news is" ❤️
@louis2you
@louis2you 7 ай бұрын
I love you brothers in Christ Jesus!!! Highly edifying for God’s glory!!!
@newyorknight
@newyorknight 7 ай бұрын
This is Church 101. Time to go to school with Dr Lawson🙏
@jonhester8909
@jonhester8909 7 ай бұрын
Powerful.💯🙌🏾
@sgabig
@sgabig 2 ай бұрын
As a trad cat - I approve this Protestant message. It's possible that seeker sensitive "churches" conflate the church's worship space with a fellowship hall - which has a purpose but should be a separate space
@derrelleggert5953
@derrelleggert5953 17 күн бұрын
Well put!
@scottgonzalez7574
@scottgonzalez7574 2 ай бұрын
AMEN!!!
@pamlewis1214
@pamlewis1214 7 ай бұрын
Amen, brothers! So thankful for this perspective on the purpose of the worship service! Thank you, Dr Lawson!
@lisfong
@lisfong 7 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness this was so good!
@cowgirlchurch
@cowgirlchurch 7 ай бұрын
Woah!!!! This is so good!
@Eric-jt8yx
@Eric-jt8yx 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video
@GabrielMartinez-su8di
@GabrielMartinez-su8di 7 ай бұрын
Amen! Grateful for this conversation
@kami5620
@kami5620 7 ай бұрын
Amen and amen!! Truth bombs! 💣 💥
@RaptureReadyPam
@RaptureReadyPam 7 ай бұрын
Helpful truths on this channel, praise our Lord.
@marcimccann1109
@marcimccann1109 7 ай бұрын
Truth!!!!
@susanneohmes1044
@susanneohmes1044 7 ай бұрын
Praise our Lord Jesus Christ! Thank you brothers!
@maryowen1722
@maryowen1722 7 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT!! Gathering to worship and scattering to reach!👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Give me those old paths, Dear LORD!!
@dawnbrown9898
@dawnbrown9898 7 ай бұрын
Amen and Amen!!❤
@carlosvalle7769
@carlosvalle7769 7 ай бұрын
Two great men of God this is ver helpful video to teach us always the truth @costi hinn and Steve Lawson great great teaching thanks so much hopefully one day we get one of this churches in our country becuase my is lock of very sound doctrine churches I am from Belize 🇧🇿 Central America hope u one day come here
@spiritman-em4qr
@spiritman-em4qr 7 ай бұрын
Praying for you, brother Carlos 🙏🏼
@spiritman-em4qr
@spiritman-em4qr 7 ай бұрын
Praying for you, brother Carlos 🙏🏼
@cherylgeary5591
@cherylgeary5591 7 ай бұрын
Carlos, I pray that maybe you could come to America and attend The Master's Academy International, then when you graduate, you could plant a church in your home town. Keep listening to these Teacher;s/Preacher's and share with the lost in your area. God Bless!
@TheBlessingReport
@TheBlessingReport 7 ай бұрын
Amazing
@Broken_Berean
@Broken_Berean 7 ай бұрын
Amen!
@mr.keokiliftee-kau7861
@mr.keokiliftee-kau7861 7 ай бұрын
SO good!! Where was this filmed? Production is on point!
@lewislibre
@lewislibre 7 ай бұрын
Ekklesia is a Greek word defined as “a called-out assembly or congregation.” Ekklesia is commonly translated as “church” in the New Testament. It’s for a believers not the world!
@siulublu
@siulublu 7 ай бұрын
I agreed with everything, except the part when he said "People tripping over the skirt??" He couldn't even said the word women, this shows that the lack of respect for women 😢
@sgabig
@sgabig 2 ай бұрын
He's also probably dunking on Catholics & Orthodox etc where men wear religious robes
@user-gv7wy1cv8x
@user-gv7wy1cv8x 7 ай бұрын
Proverbs 29:25 tells us that the 'Fear of man lays a snare" just as an animal caught in a trap can't perform its God-given function, when you or I give in to the fear of man, we can't do what God is calling us to do & I fear that some good ministers of the gospel are caught in this trap & its more about surviving their time in ministry than it is about thundering out the truth of scripture because of backlash & ridicule. The verse ends, "But, whoever trusts in the Lord is safe." It's painful to witness what's going on in 'Seeker sensitive churches' greater will be the judgement on their leaders heads - pray that God would raise up more courageous, God honouring, God exalting, God glorifying preachers, the likes of Dr Steven J Lawson!
@jumperstartful
@jumperstartful 7 ай бұрын
I want that church. I’m in a seeker sensitive church. Women give the positive thinking message. Baloney, there are people who are headed for Hell.
@burningheartsministriesmis1488
@burningheartsministriesmis1488 4 ай бұрын
@caminandoensuverdad
@caminandoensuverdad 3 ай бұрын
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying; give without pay. (Matthew 10:8 ESV)
@Billy1690-ws8jz
@Billy1690-ws8jz 7 ай бұрын
Most seem to be curiousity seekers not actual truth seekers.
@slycescott
@slycescott 7 ай бұрын
When you described to what that influencer driven "Pastor" told you what a church should be like the Holy Spirit in me started crying in my stomach fell to the floor I can't believe people actually do that I mean Mr Lawson said it right, churches for worship you don't make up a sermon to bring the people and you had the sermon is given to you by God for that we correct? Sorry if my post is not grammatically correct and not exactly English major. Keeps the great work up costie
@downsify
@downsify 4 ай бұрын
Where can I see the full interview, if there is one?
@spiritman-em4qr
@spiritman-em4qr 7 ай бұрын
Excellent sermonette. I'd prefer that brother Steve not snicker at the folly of seeker churches (as he did at the outset of this interview), as it's no light matter, and displays a hint of mockery.
@matthewcullen4536
@matthewcullen4536 7 ай бұрын
Ugh… I noticed it too. I half chuckled until I realized I’m in a seeker church and it’s real depressing seeing the direction it’s heading… no laughing matter
@RaptureReadyPam
@RaptureReadyPam 7 ай бұрын
We are still sinners even as we are being sanctified. I came from a seeker friendly church too. Didn’t know it for years. I was not saved in that church. 🥲
@spiritman-em4qr
@spiritman-em4qr 7 ай бұрын
@@RaptureReadyPam I like your username. If a seeker asks you how you're ready, are you prepared to articulate what has prepared you for his coming? How are you ready?
@RaptureReadyPam
@RaptureReadyPam 7 ай бұрын
@@spiritman-em4qr Sure! I’ve been given the gift of repentance (acts 11:18), realizing I’m a wretched sinner in need of my only God and Savior who desires all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the Truth. (1 Tim 2:3-4) Jesus died making propitiation for my sins (Hebrews 2:17) He rose again as the first fruits of the eternal life I will have with Him. (1 Cor 15:3-6) “The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus.” Romans 6:23. By His grace I am a bondservant of Christ, and am looking forward to His great appearing. Titus 2:13🙏🏽💜
@spiritman-em4qr
@spiritman-em4qr 7 ай бұрын
@@RaptureReadyPam Praise God! He has done it all. 🙏🏼
@shilohsanders5475
@shilohsanders5475 7 ай бұрын
You call Babe Ruth up to bat, you get home runs.
@onlyatoy
@onlyatoy 7 ай бұрын
Much truth in this video, but..there are things I'm questioning. I was surprised to hear so much speaking about "feelings" and what we should be experiencing. Some of this same wording used here was the same wording I hear when speaking against some of these larger churches worship services. I have much respect for Hinn and Lawson but over all there is some mixed messaging compared with other teachings/warnings I've heard from them.
@lifeasgracefaith8712
@lifeasgracefaith8712 7 ай бұрын
I disagree with several aspects of what was said here. For example it sounds like from this he’s saying being set apart means being in the olden says. Heaven is like a past era of earth. From my understanding the songs he mentioned aren’t from thousands and thousands of years ago so they were modern and possibly controversial at some point too. That being said I think he makes an excellent point about the purposes of church towards the beginning of the video.
@andreapril6969
@andreapril6969 7 ай бұрын
The sad thing is that many people in those setups fall for those antics and acts in that "circus" and live a decieved life thinking they are saved. I was in such a setup ... pentecostal aog ... female pastor with designer skinny jeans, hillsong, bethel and elevation style. Straight after worship and even during Holy Communion a married woman would flirtingly make advances while im next to my wife... thats surely not "the called out" 😢
@ogabrielsouza
@ogabrielsouza 7 ай бұрын
I completely agree on what has been said but I tend to worry about how unloving people who appreciate this type of content might become here on comment section about the brethren attending other churches. I belong to a theologically sound church and I know some brethren who have this type of sectary conviction on their speech. You who are reading this: be humble with the knowledge you’ve got from God and tremble at accusing someone’s faith.
@DB-cx6cb
@DB-cx6cb 7 ай бұрын
I quit going to Church simply because of leadership afraid to preach the Bible. Buckling to entertainment and bringing in high profile guests and having membership with the deep pockets pandering to them over those with less fortunate backgrounds. I was raised in the Southern Baptist and thought by most conservative. They have become so progressive to pander to the left I will never shadow their doors.
@James-nk6tz
@James-nk6tz 5 ай бұрын
Why not go to a church that preaches truth?
@mikelyons2831
@mikelyons2831 7 ай бұрын
Guys, according to Calvinism some are irresistibly coerced into turning to Christ, all others are arbitrarily preordained to destruction by God's divine decree...so why fuss over church dynamics?
@aranza1221
@aranza1221 7 ай бұрын
I think I am more inclined to the Baptist believe except for the issue with women in leadership. I think we have plenty of examples in the Bible that women can lead. I don’t think that God gifted women with certain talents/gifts just to go to waist. And every men at some season in his life have been and will be under the authority/leadership of a woman….unless your mother dies at birth…
@Rflower1
@Rflower1 7 ай бұрын
I'm confused about his exclusion of women in the service. His example of "women not tripping over their skirts" isn't relevant because most women wear pants. I don't agree with the casual attire of men or women but many services have women wearing tight fitted pants that show their bodies and it distracts from the song, no matter how beautifully sang.
@lambo58
@lambo58 2 ай бұрын
I'm a bit confused. Are we to bring unbelievers into the church or not? First I hear don't do what the secret sensitives do then I hear go ahead and do what they do.
@Szuubs
@Szuubs Ай бұрын
Yes, bring unbelievers into the church, I was personally converted as an adult by gospel preaching in a church I was invited to by a friend. Inviting a friend to church to hear the gospel of Christ and see/participate in the worship of him is not "being seeker-sensitive." Being seeker sensitive would be inviting your friend to church because the band is super awesome and you can get free coffee and donuts. Nothing wrong with having coffee and a donut together after we worship but that's not why we gather.
@AnnieGrace777
@AnnieGrace777 7 ай бұрын
Oh, you mean the ones who do not want to hear the REAL TRUTH of The Gospel???? Or the tickling of the ears??? JESUS is the only One The big name people = IDOLATRY. RUN RUN RUN from these churchs. RUN TO JESUS CHRIST ALONE. Bless you for speaking out.
@primafacie40
@primafacie40 7 ай бұрын
But what about drawing people with you popularity? It’s easier for Costi Hinn to start a church than No Name God Fearer who can deliver the word and shepherd better than anyone else’s but simply and no fame or platform. That’s the reality for the church that it will never overcome
@nldj344
@nldj344 7 ай бұрын
@forthegospel #forthegospel How about “the dangers of quenching Holy Spirit” There is something called a MIDDLE ground. you don’t want to be so far left with no spirit at all and so far right with too much THERE IS A MIDDLE. THOSE WHO WORSHIP HIM MUST WORSHIP IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH you’re basing all of this on your bad EXPERIENCE….that’s right on an EXPERIENCE….so you do the same thing as what you blame others for. So now you’re basing your theology on your experience rather than what the Bible actually says. And that’s something you should really be concerned about!!!
@yvonnedoulos8873
@yvonnedoulos8873 7 ай бұрын
If Dr. Lawson was consistent in his Calvinistic systematic, his answer would simply be, “Because God, before the foundation of the world, ordained those churches to be seeker-sensitive and for those pastors to behave the way they do.” His smirking and arrogant grimace when Warren & Moore are mentioned reveal Dr. Lawson’s distain and disregard for those not in his camp. How sad for the cause of Christ. May the Lord have mercy!
@Glockenstein0869
@Glockenstein0869 7 ай бұрын
Yeah a calvinist wouldnt see the point of any of that.........am I right?
@Szuubs
@Szuubs Ай бұрын
Calvinists evangelize and share the gospel because our sovereign God commands us to and He frequently uses Gospel preaching and Christian witness as the primary means of the conversion of souls.
@sheilawainwright6239
@sheilawainwright6239 7 ай бұрын
Ditch the hokey background music. Unnecessary and annoying.
@kate60
@kate60 7 ай бұрын
Well Done, Sirs
@debrasusan73
@debrasusan73 7 ай бұрын
Amen!
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