matpat sucks at minecraft theories tbh

I'm just gonna say it Because at Least the ones this guys makes has some sense of consistency *_And they're videos get straight to the point instead of whatever overly loud and obnoxious stuff mat pat is doing_*

@@aro-xv9eg if you ask me that's what make it interesting these theory's just boring to watch

Well the point he made that reinforced deep slade is actually made out of Skulk, and the bones that grow out of itself because the Skulk came from a different dimension how could you build the portal out of the Sculk? It is not impossible because remember how he said that the smaller versions of the city center were labeled as small portal statues? What if just what if those small portal statues were actually prototype portals? After all they have portal statue as their name and considerate things that the deep sleep is actually made out of Skulk no small portals with the granted temporary access to that demention notice how I said temporary because I think the small portal statues were pretty unstable and so the portal was stopped working and turns into stone statues of their former self's seconds after being activated because of how unstable they were so eventually after several failed portal protype experiments they finally gather up enough skulk so they could to make reinforced deep slade, and eventually they create a portal to get to the nether where they got themselves some soul sand, and put it underneath the portal but this smooth, and steady reinforced deep slate experimentation wouldn't last forever as eventually as we here in disc 5 eventually when one of the the illagers that was out caving collecting precious resources he hears something other than the phantoms out on the surface he rushes to the surface to see the wither is floating about, so in the first section of the disc we hear emergency sirens blaring as the ancient City home of the illagers all of the illagers that were part of the army suited up to protect the ancient cities in hopes that they could try, and take the wither down once they got to the secure entrance, and then pulled the giant lever to open up the gates their worst fears have actually come true that the wither has followed them down into the depths eventually they start hearing loud thugs, and explosions that are distorted by the cave system which means the weather is firing wither skulls, and as the explosions started to get louder they knew that this mean that the wither is getting closer, and are happening more often this means they're getting more frequent, so they rushed into a try and then finish the new version 1.0 portal to the new dimension that they've been trying to reach with the small portal statues, but once did they light the soul Sand underneath the portal to activate it the weather breaks through one of the illager guards that tries to use blocks to tower over to the portal to reach it, but it's not what they expect from that portal comes the warden in which insta kill the wither super quickly, but also brings with it way more skunk into the world the in the entire illiger population of over the ancient City could throw back through the portal, and what they didn't realize is that the skunk is a deadly invasive species, but they didn't realize that when the warden first came through the portal, and killed the weather so they're like: this dude is a God because he was able to kill the wither in one shot! So they decided to put candles around the portal that the Warden came out of, and made it, so that the portal was shaped, so it looked like the warden in order to worship the warden however this blissful ignorance doesn't last forever because eventually as they're carrying on with their lives they accidentally activate three Skulk shriekers which resummons the warden which kills many of their population, and when it happened around the new skull catalysts that were scattered all around this caused the skulk to spread pretty quickly all over the illagers Homeland the ones that didn't die to the warden put down carpets, and wool to make sure that they didn't make sounds while they were walking, so that the warden wouldn't accidentally killed them, but it wasn't enough because just the very act of opening their own chests cause the Skulk sensors to go off eventually so they decided to flee the city, and eventually they found the strongholds underground, and met up with the ancient builders the ones who showed them the way the ones that showed their ancestors how to fight the piglins, and help create their society that they now live in, but the illagers being able to live with the ancient builders eventually became cut short as eventually the ancient builder has created a Portal to the end dimension which eventually once all the ancient builders who knew how to make eyes of ender that allowed the end portal to be a two-way trip went through the portal, and the portal deactivated also now for the illagers the only people who knew how to make to those special eyes of ender were gone, and over time the instructions on how to build an end portal became lost to time because the ancient builders left their journals the detailed how to build the end portals, and the eyes of ender back in the stronghold which they can't assess any more eventually there journals of how to make those kinds of eyes of ender started to become unreachable as time went on with the owners losing more and more the ancient builders language which made deciphering their journals even harder as time went on for the illagers, and because of the engine builders had such a different language after, so much time the illagers couldn't read, or decipher the words in their journals any more because they use standard galactic alphabet 1 which is now a language they can't really understand anymore, so eventually the journals that contained the knowledge needed to bring the engine builders back completely rotted away now the ancient builders could never get back home luckily the ancient builders Left behind enough spare eyes of ender that made the portal a one-way trip behind, and the villagers have been completely forgotten how portals work, so they could at least figure out how to activate the portal as we see in every one in a trillion of all strongholds that already have all 12 eyes of ender in them, and they put them into the end portal, but they didn't know if it was safe on the other side because they didn't know what the end dimension was like, and ask yourself this if you were somehow able to activate a portal left behind by beings that were much smarter than you, or your entire species that to you, and your entire species saw as essentially God because they were able to make technology that goes beyond even your civilization's smartest people's imaginations then would you risk it, and go through the portal because you saw that the being that were much smarter than you have never returned ever since they last went through the portal when it closed? No! Of course not! So the illagers assumed that it was extremely dangerous to go through, and only the ancient builders could go through, so then they he went into the rare dark forest biomes in which very few people see, and made mansions out of a dark oak wood, and found in those biomes, so that no one could find them, and to make sure that no villager that didn't sign up with them, or wasn't born into their society would ever be able to find out about her deep dark history that they wanted to keep secret no wonder her all the illagers evokers, and vindicator's in the woodland mansions, and pillager Outposts attack at the player right on sight it's because they don't want their history to be uncovered, and, so that's why I think woodland mansions, pillager outposts, And ancient cities exist. 😅😅😅😅😅😅

@@star5384we get it, your attention span is terrible

Personally I don't see that relationship I mean if it was related to skulk then explain these questions Why aren't hoglins afraid of skulk you would think they would fear it if it's a variant of the blue warped forests it would fear it all the same Also why no mushrooms? wouldn't they also grow from skulk that's not even mentioning the biggest flaws to your theory What's the deal with the warden if it's really from the nether you'd think you would see some in said nether home but you don't especially since the ruined nether portals don't show any signs of the skulk instead all skulk is kept in the lowest part of the earth where most mobs don't dare to venture to

warped forest is end related, sculk is not end related

​@@SmokeFactory proof?

@@tjk-goix8513 warped forest has been called “where the nether meets the end” by mojang staff officially, plus in dungeons there is a plant that resembles twisting vines but purple rather than blue in the end levels

​@@SmokeFactorysculk is end related

I pretty sure the end book isn't canon

ALL HAIL THE ILLAGERS (especially one who has taste in KZfaq Channels)

Yeah that makes sense. It's possible that the Ocean/Desert/Jungle Civilizations was a Villager-Human Civilizations. Based company the villager statues in dungeond and the creeper Hyroglyphics in desert temples to the traps and redstone.

He also forgot that that deep dark biome exists which would explain the city being designed with sculk in mind and explains the portal itself. They were trying to built a portal to this new dimension as sculk is clearly not natural in the overworld like the end stone found in end portal frames

We might focus on that in the next theory video, we'll see

​@@Xatrixcool

i mean the players probably had the same problem as the warriors, no purpose, nothing to fight, so mayeb they grouped with Warrior Tribes and participated in the same activities. They might've even went into the ancient cities with them, which made the people more open to accepting new species (like the enderlings)

@@Xatrix Also, if the ocean monuments were built on land, why are their prismarine golems(guardians) aquatic? They were intentionally built to get around by swimming and swimming only. Maybe the illagers who built them were trying to colonize the sea as a challenge or something?

@@Laff700 since monuments have sponge rooms, they likely built them and then continued to maintaint them as the waters rose, eventually building guardians to defend them after they left. unfortunately they did not come up with a counter for players with doors and milk

fumo

A GAME THEORY!

Matpat was wrong many times, He was wrong about the Ocean Ruins, he completely forgot Dungeons, and the Wither cant even really move around, even when the target is in a cave and right under the Wither.

The Seer is controlled by the Orb of Dominance, who _is_ overarching antagonist of the franchise

What @sboy2044 said

@@sboy2044we never see the Seer die though

@@DjDeadpig So?

Uhhh watch the video? Unless this is a headcanon, you have no proof. But the players probably had the same problem as the warriors, no purpose, nothing to fight, so mayeb they grouped with Warrior Tribes and participated in the same activities. They might've even went into the ancient cities with them, which made the people more open to accepting new species (like the enderlings). The Illagers DID visit it later, but just to see what their ancestors lived in, how to mirror it and maybe even tried to settle back in.

@@hsdiamond2113 considering illagers are known for being adventurers, it would make sense for them to have discovered the ancient cities after they fell to ruin but weren't able to stay for long due to the persistent thread of the sculk

It would and that did happen, but The Ancient Warriors/illagers post-piglin could also be the makers of the ancient cities, because of the reasons Xatrix said in the vidoe@@supercharged5-39

​@@supercharged5-39the main proof of the humans building the ancient city is redstone itself. No other faction can use redstone as an energy source other than the humans itself

@@tapgames3465 i agree humans likely made anchent cities, but villagers and illagers are known to use redstone

this is supported by the very much ancients skulls littered throughout the structures.

@@Water-rg7gp this guy gets it

I could see myself placing the heads or skulls of my undead enemies around my cities, similar to wars, I don't see why humans would be placing the heads of their dead in the open

@@Xatrix they would be on spikes in that case, im saying they died there, and their skulls are like the remnants of those humanoids.

i agree that illagers were there at one point, but i disagree with the idea that they were the original inhabitants, nor do i have any clue about when the skulk could have possibly been introduced to the deep city environment

Uhhh watch the video? Unless this is a headcanon, you have no proof. But the players probably had the same problem as the warriors, no purpose, nothing to fight, so mayeb they grouped with Warrior Tribes and participated in the same activities. They might've even went into the ancient cities with them, which made the people more open to accepting new species (like the enderlings). The Illagers DID visit it later, but just to see what their ancestors lived in, how to mirror it and maybe even tried to settle back in.

@@hsdiamond2113 Bro they literally gave proof

I meant proof that the Humans built it@@sboy2044

So this is basically a fanfic?

The phantoms also could be from the shulk dimension and entering the ancient city leaving them to escape and fly into the overworld.

The Illagers WERE a militaristic society, and they had a differing ideology. Its likely the Villagers did house them in the Warrior Huts, but the Illagers either left willingly/were kicked out, since Villagers are quite redeeming for the Villager Warriors in the story, painting them as brave fighters before turning rotten after the war with the Piglins end. As for the Monsters? the Nameless Kingdom back then mightve not been powerful, considering that the Hosts couldve just stopped them. The reasons Villagers were hostile to even friendly Illagers like Archie would probably becuase eventually the Illagers rose from the Ancient Cities and began mass capturing and massacring villages, its only when Archie takes control that the Illagers are truly united against the Villagers, when the war is at its peak. Also Piglins and Villager problem? Considering Legends was ancient, both of them wouldnt even recongize eachother, or it could just be an oversight by Mojang. Afterall, you arent going to be boating through the Nether to some Villager breeder.

What's interesting is that in bedrock edition they had green eyes and were much dumber before. Perhaps Lapiz is what makes the vindicators smarter

nvm you can literally see this in the Hollowed at 24:37 in this video

NVM AGAIN YOU ALREADY KNEW ADSHGAJFSH

Mojang developers confirmed that sculk has no relationship with the end and they retextured scull to distance it from looking similar to the end portal frame

@@tapgames3465 They still look similar to the End Portal frame. Also when and where did they say that?

@@Boomblox5896 Kingbdogs confirmed it's not related to the end. They changed the texture to be more blue to differentiate it to the end and the white part of the warden is just bones.

@@tapgames3465 Agh... still. When they said that those big gaping structures were "portals" in the game files, I felt like that would have been a perfect opportunity to expand upon The End and what would have been a great update for the future. Now they gotta contend with some completely unrelated lore and potential dimension that we'll never see and it wouldn't make sense for us to see because we have two extra dimensions that still feel like they need a bit more development going into it. The End is barren as hell and could have used that extra bit of boosted content.

@@Boomblox5896Stupid idea because these "portal frames" Are clearly meant for a ew dimension. Why should the end get 2 portals? Also it's just the end that needs an update and there still room for only 1 dimension because of the bedrock

?????

If we had a way to have illager villages with illagers who are neutral and trade that would be great. Plus illagers like vindicators and pillagers would behave neutral in villages

Given their grey pigmentation they must be a different race

Experience is a connection between all things, progression of life, life itself. Animals having babies, completing advancements, deaths by others, smelting, and breaking sculk (proving it is more or less semi alive)

Well it a legend after all mabye it existed at the time but was forgoten by villagers ever since

MC:L is semi-canon, as its a story. So its likely details were forgotten, like the Sniffers.

For the mobs in Legends, they could’ve just gone extinct. For Dungeons, which mobs specifically are you talking about.

@@sboy2044 the types of enderman the different types of piglins and the different types of skeletons like the necromancers

@@Red-or3yu Necromancers: We simply just don’t have the chance to see them in the base game. They only spawn in the the Nameless One’s desert temple in the default difficulty, and they supposedly only come out to spawn mobs at night. It was said by a developer that just because we don’t see something in-game doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist in-lore. Skeleton vanguards: They used to also only spawn in the desert temple, but they were added to some DLC levels simply for more enemy variety. Mossy skeletons: They could just be the result of the Orb’s elemental corruption seeping onto mobs. Sunken skeletons: The devs want to add a ranged mob in the ocean levels that isn’t trident drowneds, but arrows don’t work properly underwater. They already added harpoon, which are projectiles that work underwater, so why not make a skeleton that shoots harpoons? And why not make a new design to go along with it? Enderlings (watchlings, blastlings and snarelings): I’m not really sure about these. I I used to think that the Orb created them during the events of the Echoing Void DLC, but there’s a banner with a snareling’s face on it in Broken Citadel. Maybe their existence was purely so that the only mobs wouldn’t just be weaker version of a mini-boss Endersent: They might come from the same “inbetween” dimension that endermites come from, and only the Vengeful Heart was able to let them free. Are you talking about the piglins from Legends, or the fungus thrower and the zombified crossbow piglin from Dungeons?

Illagers that learned ice magic.

Probably a similar story with the Illusioners? Fading to obscurity after Archie is defeated, with the last of them heading for the shards of the Orb Of Dominance

Xatrix abandoned most of the theories that they made before the “Broken God” theory

The Nameless Kingdom

​​@@Xatrixok but it's impossible for the illagers to have build the city because we see small dark oak bridges and camps impling that they recently discovered it

​@@ilyes_games_2Well, How could've they discovered it? How would've they known that there was a massive city ruin somewhere down in the caves below the mountains? That sounds so increadibly specific first of all and second, every single Ancient city that exist has already been atleast explored by Illagers beforehand. Even if they discovered it on their own, Why even explore deep into it and risk being sorrounded by dangerous alien substances and build structures in them as in a attempt to fix or make navigation easier in the city ruins in the first place? They'll have no reason to do that unless they know it beforehand from their Ancestors and want to connect back with them, Or retrieve back something that has been taken from them long ago, Or try to rebuild the glory days of their kingdoms. Otherwise they shouldn't have been connected to it in the first place.

We're going to focus on that in a later video 👀

Oh, ok