This isn't what they meant when they said return to monkey
@justacringymakotoyukifangi88253 жыл бұрын
@@slyseal2091 definitely nothing will go wrong
@aniquinstark43473 жыл бұрын
@@slyseal2091 Just don't get it in your hair, that shit ain't coming off
@arandomcommenter4123 жыл бұрын
Oh god
@EmpressTiffanyOfBrittany3 жыл бұрын
Nobody specified to be fair
@josevst72743 жыл бұрын
But it is a good step towards reject humanity
@D4_Isnt_Real3 жыл бұрын
>Decapitates man >Expects noble prize >Gets life in prison >Sadge.jpeg
@dabielle3 жыл бұрын
it was the noble prize for medicine/science, not peace :)
@vallisdaemonum2553 жыл бұрын
Decapitation of peace ☮️🕊️
@cml55603 жыл бұрын
@@vallisdaemonum255 Well played lol
@brutalnobody52403 жыл бұрын
Has to be for a purpose....and done through legal loopholes
@gotzvonunentberlichingen14523 жыл бұрын
With all the violent morons and useful idiots getting Nobel Peace Prizes, this guy getting one sounds fairly reasonable.
@cooltop1013 жыл бұрын
Imagine waking up and having a stranger's head attached to you, or you attached to a stranger's body. Or waking up and not having a body at all. Can't imagine what those animals were going through
@MadMax-dp2bb2 жыл бұрын
It baffles me how arrogant some people are thinking this is somehow justified. They call it "the greater good". We must not progress at the expense of our own humanity. This really made me sad. I'm off to watch a comedy now 😅
@sayori39392 жыл бұрын
@@MadMax-dp2bb let's analyze it, you basically "kills" the person whoose head is going to be transplanted, you straight up kill the host and the Best thing you can get is a tetraplegic person who is probably going to die pretty soon that's fucking fucked up!
@MadMax-dp2bb2 жыл бұрын
@@sayori3939 I know, its awful 😥
@sayori39392 жыл бұрын
@@MadMax-dp2bb yeah and the fact that they throw away the original host head is disturbing
@valley_robot2 жыл бұрын
Heart transplants are common , what is wrong with using a dead body to to give a paraplegic a full set of useable limbs , we have face transplants for burn victims and also arm transplants ,once the body is dead we can use so much from the dead person to help people , liver transplants , eye transplants , do you all really think the dead body feels the emotions of the person in once lived in , how , the person has died , only the person is dead , the body is still useful
@Nikki04172 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the dog experiments freak me out more. Not just because it involved dogs, but because thinking about how either dog must have felt is horrifying. Imagine waking up with a stranger attached to your body or waking up as a disembodied head attached to another creature. It's the stuff of nightmares.
@nameofthegame96643 жыл бұрын
Imagine waking up without any sensations because you’re just a brain outside your body.
@possumverde3 жыл бұрын
If it's anything like being in a sensory deprivation tank, it would definitely be weird. With the body actually missing though, I'd worry about something along the lines of phantom limb syndrome being an issue.
@YourFriendlyOnlineStranger3 жыл бұрын
I have no mouth, and I must scream.
@LoGaIta993 жыл бұрын
Well, they still had the head... The probabily felt like some paralitics feel every day.
@nameofthegame96643 жыл бұрын
@@LoGaIta99 I’m talking about the experiment at 4:30. It was 6 brains without the heads.
@LoGaIta993 жыл бұрын
@@nameofthegame9664 I suppose the had still the heads around them... How do you extract a brain without interrupting bloodflow and/or causing massive emorragies?
@mariomario18493 жыл бұрын
Imagine you are about to get brain surgery and you're scared, and the surgeon says "oh don't worry, i once did a head transplant, this will be super easy"
@allanredhill86823 жыл бұрын
On a monkey nonetheless lmao this is monty python material right here
@sockbonez19293 жыл бұрын
ok but that just sounds like medic from tf2
@mariomario18493 жыл бұрын
@@sockbonez1929 yeah now that i think about it it does lol
@tractorenjoyer93103 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the doctor said that he stole the skeleton of a patient once
@mariomario18493 жыл бұрын
@@tractorenjoyer9310 engineer gaming
@chibbersthesquirrel61892 жыл бұрын
What's nightmarish about this, to me at least, is to imagine what must be going on in the monkey's thoughts. From what I understand of it, it sounds like the body itself wasn't being kept alive by the brain's signals to the muscles, but rather by mechanical processes which kept the lungs and heart working. So this isn't so much of a "head transplant" as it was hooking a head up to what was essentially a biological machine that kept it alive. The body it was hooked up to was little more than a life support system that kept the brain active. But think about this for a second... that means that the monkey's brain would be trying to tell it to do the things it normally would, but it wouldn't be able to. It would try to breathe, but it has no lungs with which to take a breath. It would try to move, but it's not actually connected to the muscles of the body, so nothing would happen. It could just... observe its surroundings and respond to stimuli on its face. That sounds like hell.
@lobsterbark2 жыл бұрын
The most bizzare part is the brain isn't solely responsible for the panic response. A large part of the feeling of panic is from your bodies reaction. So what would that feel like? The adrenal glands aren't located in the brain, they are located in the torso. So there would be no adrenaline, no feeling of your heart beating quickly, no hyperventilating. But obviously your brain would try to panic, but could it even? Even the fear and panic from being in that situation would feel strange and confusing.
@gj57482 жыл бұрын
@@lobsterbark now that's interesting
@bittipasuta2 жыл бұрын
"Kill me." "Later."
@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.99172 жыл бұрын
I think it'd be a very surreal and more extreme version of the phantom limb syndrome, except it's an entire body. Imagine feeling like you have an itch on your leg, but even if you could command your new body to scratch it you'll always feel that itch. It would take a very long time to get used to that feeling, and it would drive nearly everyone insane to some extent.
@TheFlippyNioa2 жыл бұрын
@losmmn loserman The monkeys were specifically chosen because their brains are similar to humans. Humans aren't unique in feeling most of the things mentioned, in fact many of them are some of the most basic responses to stimuli. The only thing animals might not experience is phantom limbs, but I think it's more likely they just can't communicate it. Animals are a lot more complex than you think.
@legowoshi2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a conscious brain without any link to sensory organs or anything that's actually horrific. No nerves or breathing or hearing just alive but nowhere.
@Broken_Orbital2 жыл бұрын
You ever have a dream? It'd be just like that. 🤷♂️
@legowoshi2 жыл бұрын
@@Broken_Orbital how is being aware without any connection to any sense without the comfort of the context of a room or the sense of connection to your body unable to affect anything like a dream, you'd just be trapped nowhere but able to think without any way to express your panic
@Broken_Orbital2 жыл бұрын
@@legowoshi you kinda just answered your own question... Dreams are literally just your brain actively working without being in control of your body. That's not much different than a brain actively working without being in control of a body.
@legowoshi2 жыл бұрын
@@Broken_Orbital what they would be fully aware though at least for a short time, the consciousness is fully preserved but it would sort of be like paralysis
@legowoshi2 жыл бұрын
@@Broken_Orbital if I took you and made you unable to affect any parts of your body except your brain you wouldn't just start dreaming you'd still be aware but unable to do anything except think
@ASHERUISE3 жыл бұрын
The worst part is the grafted brains. How would it be like just being a brain without any sensory organs?
@tessaminick87453 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they felt a consciousness...
@krxzpkrxnxh14313 жыл бұрын
you would feel dead but your not dead
@druidfromthewest72583 жыл бұрын
We're all just brains grafted onto bone suits that wear meat armor. But still give those monkeys anesthesia at least!
@lethaljellybean3 жыл бұрын
That's basically the plot of Johnny got his gun
@thetulipcollective89013 жыл бұрын
@@krxzpkrxnxh1431 off topic but why is that dissasociation in a nutshell
@casbyness3 жыл бұрын
The key problem with this branch of medicine is that even the most recent attempts to make progress don't even bother trying to re-establish any sort of nervous system connections. They can just barely reconnect essential blood supply and combat immune system rejection, so far they aren't even trying to link up sensory connections. It's like firing manned space flight missions into orbit before you've figured out how to pressure seal the interior of a cockpit. First we need to figure out how to repair spinal cord injuries properly, THEN we can think about brain/head transplants in extreme circumstances.
@skeetsmcgrew32823 жыл бұрын
Thats a good point. The only two scenarios I can imagine this being useful is someone with unbelievably horrific body injuries that didnt affect the head, and massive spinal cord damage on the donor body. Either way, who wants to live as a quadriplegic, may as well try to keep a head alive in a jar. Also, the unbelivably complex ethical rammifications of essentially live organ donation. The only body donors possible would be coma patients, meaning youd have to physically murder them rather than just let them die naturally. Seems like a cart before the horse scenario on many levels
@HooLeePhucingSheet3 жыл бұрын
Right? And they only "lived" For 6-15 hours max. With those results with such high cruelty is unethical imo. If they were trying to figure out how the monkey can live comfortably this would be a different story. This is just some low class Frankenstein shit.
@evil1by13 жыл бұрын
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 you act like that isn't what is already happening with organ donation. If you believe in brain death it's all the same whether you only take the major organs or the whole damn body. Also kinda ableist to devalue the lives of quadriplegic people like that. They're lives have value too and deserve to be saved. Lastly.. Stephan Hawking, would probably still be alive if we had transplanted his head off his failing body with minimal quality of life loss at that point in his disease.
@platyhelminthes28773 жыл бұрын
@@voidofspaceandtime4684 Feel free to show all of us exactly where they list Stephen Hawking's accomplishments as an example - we both know they did nothing of the sort. You are grossly misrepresenting what they said, both about able-ism and about Stephen Hawking. (Which were quite clearly two separate and unrelated statements.)
@eboninkdeathliquidnecrosis3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but also why not just figure out how to fix the fucking spin and call it a day. This is just freaks getting bored and getting a hold on money to play with.
@whitedragoness233 жыл бұрын
Actually the monkey doesn’t look afraid, just borderline between life and death and as if it’s not fully aware of what the heck is going on and I hope it didn’t have long term memory functions
@aldebaran5842 жыл бұрын
Just imagine, a group of seemingly omnipotent, semi-bald, big-headed giants abducted your ansectors so now you just gotta be a head with no body for a day and a half while in unimaginable anguish numbed heavily by a magical mystery serum completely erasing what remaining senses you had left, given to you forcefully by the aforementioned giants as everything you knew in your short life as a Rhesus monkey in a strange, angular cave in which said giants keep you and your relatives ceases to exist and you never experience life as a monkey again, that being your final conscious state as a living being.
@JohnSmith-hq6fl2 жыл бұрын
Thats from the viewpoint of a human trying to imagine what such a monkey would see and think, it probably wont be like that for the monkey, but I'm sure pain and confusion would be involved. Regardless of whether you have thoughts or can understand (in a way) whats happening, you will feel pain because you're alive and not numbed. And you would probably want to be in your old fucking body, right? The unethical part for me is when someone is awake and feels pain, they are probably in a state of shock. We wouldn't do it to a human under normal circumstances assuming we dont have a mental illness, but since it's a monkey or another animal it's okay.
@whitedragoness232 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-hq6fl one time My head was getting crushed. Didn’t feel pain, it was like everything was weird. Probably didn’t reach the point where intense pain would of been in that case. Think my brain was having issues processing what the heck was going on. The body is a strange thing.
@AK-fr5zv2 жыл бұрын
@@whitedragoness23 Jesus, I'm sorry that you went through something like that! A curious part of me wants to ask what and why happened, but the squeamish side is like oh my lord please don't think about it, don't ask. Not to mention, it might be something you wouldn't want to talk about, so I'm kinda not sure if I should ask or not... So uh, yeah, sorry if asking about it is wrong, but I'm really curious and have some issues with interpersonal interactions, so I don't know where the boundary in this case is o:
@AK-fr5zv2 жыл бұрын
@Pixie No I'm not sleepy, what do you mean!
@NyanCatHerder2 жыл бұрын
There's something incredibly disturbing about this, honestly, especially the isolated brain transplants. It's pretty much impossible to know whether an isolated brain remains conscious, but if so, that idea is absolutely terrifying.
@deontaeavila3514 Жыл бұрын
200th like
@willoliver903611 ай бұрын
@@darcipeepscue a Vsauce video about identity and self
@spjmrlahey40083 жыл бұрын
"The 1970 Monkey Head experiment" is an excellent name for a punk band.
@LjCaples3 жыл бұрын
Dangthatsalongname
@screwhammer36963 жыл бұрын
dibs
@lich86-3 жыл бұрын
Or a prog band
@PineappleMagician3 жыл бұрын
Ayo that would be pretty epic
@seafire97263 жыл бұрын
Reduce it to "Monkey Head Experiment" and I honestly wouldnt question it for a second if you told me it was an actual punk band
@vintagefalcon39743 жыл бұрын
I don’t think “totally evil” and “for the greater good of mankind” are mutually exclusive unfortunately.
@pauld96903 жыл бұрын
I suppose one could think of it as an excusability scale rather than a morality one
@darrenmuse3 жыл бұрын
We still use some of the information about humans surviving in freezing temperatures that was developed from Nazi torturers.
@jwenting3 жыл бұрын
@@darrenmuse and the ways we fight epidemics has been greatly enhanced by Japanese experiments where they bombarded Chinese cities with biological weapons just to see what would happen.
@TairaEldritch3 жыл бұрын
I think that scientist should be more open to doing experimental crazy tests.. The greatest scientists who ever lived probably didn't care a lot about morals!
@ElTomatoEAFan3 жыл бұрын
*Eren Jaegar vibing on the back*
@molly51112 жыл бұрын
i cant imagine how helpless and terrified those animals felt
@VampireFlutist2 жыл бұрын
The hardest part of a brain transplant would be the reconnection of nerves imo. Especially to the extent of regaining full functionality of the whole body.
@benkinder2800 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, neural tissue is slow to regrow if it does at all. They focused on the monkeys facial movements [Crainal Nerve 7.] Since the incision point was at Cervical nerve 5 it makes sense those areas above the cut are not going to be affected. My question is, once the spinal column and thus the spinal cord was severed on both subjects. and they were frankeinstiened back together was any voluntary movement in the body noticed...? I assumed the body was being kept alive with Machines beating the heart and such. but with signals not getting to or from the control centre in the brain [thalamus and hypothalamus] to maintain body homeostasis then all they really accomplished was creating a quadriplegic monkey.
@olivecool3 жыл бұрын
i like how the title says “an unethical experiment???” like it was a rare thing in the 70s
@anastasia57563 жыл бұрын
doesn't make it less unethical?
@olivecool3 жыл бұрын
@@anastasia5756 yes i know but it's like it's asking "an unethical experiment??? in 1970???"
@zentrocs3 жыл бұрын
Josef Mengele may or may not have done that to humans, just saying
@KoiladaScrewYTHandles3 жыл бұрын
@@anastasia5756 I'm pretty sure they meant that unethical/questionably ethical experiments, especially on animals, were a dime a dozen in the 70s, so asking if it was unethical is somewhat redundant by nature Aka, it was a jab at the period, not saying the period made it more ethical
@sam84043 жыл бұрын
Would you prefer they described this as ethical?
@dry11973 жыл бұрын
"an unethical experiment?" Rats and mice: First time?
@Slapnuts96273 жыл бұрын
I mean, the lives of pests like that are kind of insignificant.
@dry11973 жыл бұрын
@@Slapnuts9627 Taking into account their high fertility and mortality rate, yes. I would still argue that using the lives of rats and mice for science is unethical despite how insignificant people think they are.
@Slapnuts96273 жыл бұрын
@@dry1197 Either there or get beat to death with a broom in my living room, again.
@ghoultermina3 жыл бұрын
@@dry1197 most mice don’t live very great lives sadly, might aswell use them for science
@ekotuel36313 жыл бұрын
Lol true
@garyowens74542 жыл бұрын
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should." Jeff Goldblum as Ian, "Jurassic Park"
@lucasc5622 Жыл бұрын
Wowe so deep
@pyro-millie55332 жыл бұрын
As an animal lover myself, I have some thoughts about this… Animal testing is a whole can of worms that is understandably hard to talk about. I’m a bioengineer, and so my field has to work with lab animals probably more than any other. I cant imagine the type of life those poor dogs and monkeys lived as test subjects in premodern medicine, but now, there are strict regulations to protect lab animals. You have to have a clear plan for what will be done and explanation as to why it is necessary. In addition, you have to use the minimum possible number of animals, and provide them with clean and large enough enclosures, clean food and water, proper veterinary care, stimulating toys, places to run around, etc. and when doing experiments, you have to give anesthetics unless its absolutely impossible to do so. And prolonged suffering must be avoided at all costs. Its unfortunate that we still have to use animals for experiments, but at the time being there aren’t suitable analogues that would mimic bodily responses to things accurately. I’d agree that this experiment is probably a 5 or 6 on the scale because While I imagine these creatures were treated horribly, I know this work had huge impacts on both neuroscience and making people aware that lab animals needed better treatment.
@RANDOM-pf1ve2 жыл бұрын
Why not use humans? like there are 7 billion of us (of course by their consent) I'm pretty sure there will be plenty of volunteers.
@sparkling9252 жыл бұрын
@@RANDOM-pf1ve messing around with animals is one thing but changing heads on humans is a rabbit hole we shouldnt enter
@MEGADDETHBNNUY142 жыл бұрын
@@sparkling925 Why not experiment on convicted criminals on death row? Like murderers n such. They killed/tormented ppl they might as well be used to benefit society. It's just a thought though. And it's not something I would personally call inhumane but that might just be me.
@hellodumplings85642 жыл бұрын
“aS aN aNiMaL lOvEr mYsElF” don’t lie, you hate cockroaches and are disgusted by worms.
@luxtobeyou2 жыл бұрын
@@hellodumplings8564 cockroaches are pretty cute though, a fair bit of people have them as pets actually. and worms are just little wiggling pink tubes, what's so disgusting about them?
@michaelbaker92743 жыл бұрын
Scientist 1: “I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU TO...” Scientist 2: “Wait, say that part one more time”
@rgbtryhardled6363 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ralphralpherson94413 жыл бұрын
Do people not realize how clever this is? LOL. I got it.
@RyanPurcell3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@mpaso66343 жыл бұрын
Best comment for this video, hands down.
@strawberrymilk66663 жыл бұрын
_Wait why is this comment underrated?_
@tommo2583 жыл бұрын
Incredible. The rate of success here is staggering. Sounds like something out of a horror film though!
@neuralmute3 жыл бұрын
@Lippy Such an underrated classic!
@scottconcertman34233 жыл бұрын
Hey blue eye
@MrFreakRite3 жыл бұрын
@Lippy move them dead bones
@Balthorium3 жыл бұрын
The Thing.
@cgi20023 жыл бұрын
Reality can often be more terrifying than fiction. Morally repugnant as this was, it did advance medical knowledge significantly to the point were as a consequence, thousands possibly tens to hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved/extended/improved.
@TheSieBee2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that the 2017 transplant never happened, I read into it some more and found that the Doctor's main volunteer actually backed out after thinking on it more. The guy has a wife and kid so I'm glad he didn't take such a massive risk; for their sakes.
@anonymousplanetfambly45989 ай бұрын
The volunteer wasn't fully functional. They were essentially a head attached to a malfunctioning body. Yes he had family, but his quality of life is essentially nil. I believe he got cold feet because he believed he would lose what little functionality he still retained if things went wrong and would simply become a disembodied head.
@punkrat57042 ай бұрын
@@anonymousplanetfambly4598 fill me in on the 2017 transplant? Not related to what anyone has said here but I've never heard of it and was going through a lot during that time, so even if I did hear of it I wouldn't be able to remember it (memory loss). It just sounds interesting to me
@doctorbone36553 жыл бұрын
The rate of success is massively impressive. Going from minutes to hours to days to months so quickly? Astounding.
@yeetyeet5079 Жыл бұрын
Yea its kinda sorta getting decently close to potentially becoming a valid surgery for humans
@ilkc1007 ай бұрын
Nerd
@lilpthebasedpoque3 жыл бұрын
"the surgeries were a success, but the dogs died after 2 days." that... does not sound like a success.
@joseph-mariopelerin70283 жыл бұрын
it successfully slow killed the dog in the most horrible way.... don't be so negative...
@loganthesaint3 жыл бұрын
That was success in the 1900’s
@charlieangkor86493 жыл бұрын
@Tano wouldn't have to, if his body weren't paranoid.
@carcar59843 жыл бұрын
Cadaver research used to be considered ethically and morally abhorrent. But look where that research has gotten us. It's not pretty, but few things in life are. Fact is, these test subjects led a much better life than a farmed animal. This wasn't cruel or sadistic. Ugly, but the research led to successful organ transportation. Weigh 100,000 people dying a slow and painful death due to renal failure. Now you could have prevented that with experimentation on a dozen or 2 animals. Which is more cruel?
@lilpthebasedpoque3 жыл бұрын
i'm not criticizing the scientist, i didn't even mention the scientist. i'm saying that a procedure that prolongs the subject's life by only two days does not sound succesful, since usually the point of surgery is to prolong life as long as possible. frankly it was a joke, but please keep explaining this to me like we didn't all watch the same video.
@theTwilightSystem3 жыл бұрын
As fascinated I am by these kinds of experiments, I can't believe there are people twisted enough to think them up.
@piemoon24883 жыл бұрын
Shiit. you know who they do it for.....????
@SillyConure3 жыл бұрын
@@sonacphotos Technically speaking you're correct and head transplants could very well be possible in a further future but those experiments are still nightmare fuel.
@treebeard84752 жыл бұрын
@@sonacphotos very interesting potentially very useful. Good to understand the information and how it’s done but I don’t think humans should go much further into playing god tbh 😂😂😂 guess I’ve seen too many sci-fi horror movies. Also I love monke
@MadMax-dp2bb2 жыл бұрын
@@sonacphotos I'm sorry but I feel this is just too cruel. I would rather be in a wheelchair for the rest of my life than put another living thing through this nightmare. Progression is good but it is it always necessary at the expense of others? I dont feel it is.
@hamgobbler91602 жыл бұрын
@@MadMax-dp2bb I geuss there's many different people, because out of all the people I've asked, a good amount would rather kill another living being, human or not. Then live the rest of there lives in a wheelchair.
@Waddles3922 жыл бұрын
While yes, this is the stuff of nightmares, I’m amazed that the monkeys even lived at all, much more that they lived as long as they did, even eat at all, and in the end, neither suffered brain damage. It’s awesome in the most literal sense of the word with a horrible sickening twist
@josephmonkele5992 Жыл бұрын
Sad that the dogs died painfully while the stupid monkeys lived. It should've been the other way around.
@false_icons8 ай бұрын
@@josephmonkele5992 What
@k.k.77972 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know about the dog surgeries, legitimately shocked they happened AND that someone won a nobel peace prize for it
@oddsocks81833 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, if it would be horrific to do to a human, then it’s also horrific to do to an animal
@allanredhill86823 жыл бұрын
Just because they arent sentient like us doesnt mean the process is less torturous. If they feel pain and fear its not moral to go that far period
@roenherkth28213 жыл бұрын
@@allanredhill8682 sapient* sentience is any form of intelligence, whether that be fission bombs, or the ability to recognize food and water. Sapient beings are like us.
@jazzcabbage93703 жыл бұрын
@@roenherkth2821 Wrong, sentience isn't any form of intelligence.
@star-tc7xv3 жыл бұрын
I mean, to be fair, shouldn’t we think that way for cows/pigs? Pigs are extremely intelligent and if it’s so horrific for a dog why can’t it be seen the same for other animals? (This is not coming from a vegan lol)
@mgkest19xxcle803 жыл бұрын
@@star-tc7xv - I totally agree and it bothers me (I'm not vegan either)
@InceRumul3 жыл бұрын
Dog: man's best friend. Man: lol, ima make a double doggie.
@EZ-D-FIANT3 жыл бұрын
Super dog 🐕 Dog + 🐕 2.0
@ABW9413 жыл бұрын
Soon we will have cerberus to guard ourhomes.
@EZ-D-FIANT3 жыл бұрын
@@ABW941 Horace is the only dog I want watching my back 😏
@RaivoltG3 жыл бұрын
Had to bring it to 666!
@bababooey9483 жыл бұрын
@@RaivoltG Cool story.
@skyangel69 Жыл бұрын
So glad I found this page. first time I've seen someone discussing topics like this while preserving it as a psychology case study AND horror/disaster content simultaneously.
@mickeymouse126782 жыл бұрын
The fact that this is only a 6 on the morality scale makes me concerned at what would be considered a 10
@zephyr29053 жыл бұрын
Bruh if this is a 6/10 what kind of unimaginable ungodly shit is a 10/10
@jkandd3 жыл бұрын
Probably same but with humans
@danielr.l.mccullough6003 жыл бұрын
Unit 731 level shit
@OrbitalBro3 жыл бұрын
The box that simulated depression is probably up there.
@gr3yh4wk13 жыл бұрын
Look under the heading of "Nazi" and "Japan WWII"
@FragBenitez3 жыл бұрын
@@OrbitalBro whats that?
@AMTheOcarinaPlayer3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, secret of NIHM and plague dogs weren’t kidding about how creepy animal experiments can be... and this just cranked that up to 7.
@darkcoeficient3 жыл бұрын
What do we need to crank it up to 11?
@whydoyougottahavthis3 жыл бұрын
Dude plague dogs lol I wanna show that to children XD
@bazooka933 жыл бұрын
@@whydoyougottahavthis Plague Dogs were ok, but Watership Down gave me legit trauma in my childhood. Same author.
@thedungeondelver3 жыл бұрын
Six. It's rated a 6 on the scale.
@AMTheOcarinaPlayer3 жыл бұрын
@@bazooka93 sorry but I watched it and it’s no worse than any nature documentary... secret of NIHM has a ton of darker implications... “we can no longer live... as rats... we KNOW too much...” Brisby:.... 😳
@GS-ty5ux3 жыл бұрын
"YES WE DID IT! wait this brain doesnt fit in this skull.. dammit welp bring me another monkey"
@kaleido96312 жыл бұрын
This was wholeheartedly disturbing.
@berry22543 жыл бұрын
Man this is gonna sound fucked up but it's pretty amazing how bodies can sorta just do that. It's pretty weird to think that all of those eldritch masses of flesh seen in horror media could in theory be done with enough trial and error. Curiosity is a dangerous thing.
@Bro1212_3 жыл бұрын
You can trick a body but not a brain, immune system response is the biggest barrier in head transplant
@Pain-ib7ot3 жыл бұрын
@@Bro1212_ guess we got to start cloning are bodys...
@erikmckoul24783 жыл бұрын
@@Bro1212_ What if we learn how to make our own immune system with technology in the future then it might work although that would be scary to me.
@RandomPerson-ks3ql3 жыл бұрын
I agree that its amazing how bodies can do that
@rosemarydudley99543 жыл бұрын
Berry ... it was for the cat! LMAO
@PetWanties3 жыл бұрын
While ethically questionable it's interesting that they attempted this and were even successful to an extend. Would be awesome if you can cover more topics like these, I think it's a great addition to your content.
@Nothingmore1463 жыл бұрын
Another unethical experiment the Russians tired was making a human chimp hybrid but it was in the 50 I think so DNA wasn’t even known so gene splicing wasn’t a thing. The carzy thing is if we wanted to we would be able to now. I’m curious how a ape man hybrid would look/ think act but That’d be super fucked up to do so I’m fine with just using my imagination lol.
@mekhane.broken96783 жыл бұрын
@@Nothingmore146 probably like Mr.Throgmorton from the sinking city.
@RevCode3 жыл бұрын
@John Flower Cruel as these experiments may be, they are important to understand science. Eventually you might be able to transplant the head of someone who is severly bodily ill unto the body of a person who is braindead and, given some more advances in neurosurgery for nerve connection, at least give that one person a new body, a new life.
@theangriestcatintheworld3 жыл бұрын
@@Nothingmore146 Well... Bigfoot comes to mind. >
@Nothingmore1463 жыл бұрын
@@theangriestcatintheworld I don’t think Bigfoot but it made me think.if we created a ape human hybrid would we treat it like a animal or human or if we found an intelligent ape species would how would we treat them. Humans can be the most compassionate and kind or most evil and cruel obviously depend on the person or group of people.
@colossalberger2 жыл бұрын
I have seen the live vivisection of this experiment. And let me tell you that the monkey was very freaked out when it saw it’s body be carried away.
@Mephil2 жыл бұрын
Purely as a thought experiment, I wonder how much further we would be in medicine if we had no ethical roadblocks in place. I mean it would be naivé to say that we wouldn’t be further along, its really a question of how much and how much greater the cost would be.
@carneeki3 жыл бұрын
This specific experiment has me pretty conflicted inside. But the new format is great!
@PlainlyDifficult3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@anthonydefreitas60063 жыл бұрын
I have to say I agree with you. This is bordering on Josef Mengele stuff.
@neuralmute3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonydefreitas6006 I keep thinking it's more Unit 731, because they were competent, which makes them somehow even worse...
@cassandrajenkins90953 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way...
@user-pm7fv9dt6j3 жыл бұрын
I know I will get lot of hate but *Is it moral to let millions suffer when a suffering of a few animal could show the path to their salvation?* We already kill billions of animal for fun and food
@rre91213 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ. Scientists scare me, and I'm a professional scientist. It's about an 8. To get to 9 it would need to be on people, to get to 10 it just needs to be on unwilling people.
@eccomi213 жыл бұрын
Bro. 11. Thats an 11. And I'm super mad that science almost has to do this to make progress. Like, even if you theoretically make it work over and over again you only know if it truly works once you try it. The question is should you try it. And that's very difficult to answer. If it could give people the ability to escape a wheelchair, okay. But would a person even want another person's entire body. Could you in the future maybe synthetically grow bodies and attach human heads? Imagine trans people could literally translate over to their gender and even choose the type of body they want... Its a very ethically difficult topic
@sandordugalin89513 жыл бұрын
I'd go 7-9-10 by your scale. To be fair, we've done even worse things to animals in the pursuit of better medicine for humans.
@JR-me7yk3 жыл бұрын
This might sound really messed up but I believe we should replace capital punishment with human experimentation. Like I feel bad for the animals because we cant judge them so for the most part their innocent but say there is like a child rapist murderer, I would not feel bad if they were experimented on especially if they ended up messed up or dead because they wouldve died to the death penalty either way and theyre also horrible people. I especially think this should be the case because say something like experimental cancer cures or something of that nature were being tested, that would greatly benefit humanity.
@ColdNorth06283 жыл бұрын
6 6.5 for willing people and 10 for unwilling. Literally willingness defines this situation.
@lambybunny71733 жыл бұрын
@@JR-me7yk The issue is that a lot of people in jail are actually innocent. I can’t remember his name but a man was killed by our government despite the actual murderer clearing the man’s name.
@MissMisnomer_2 жыл бұрын
Every second of the descriptions of the surgery made me want to hurl. The level of discomfort I feel is astronomical
@EightySix86.2 жыл бұрын
learning comes at a price and that price is me squirming around because of how uncomfortable I was
@Aarohnn3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the experiments we don’t know about
@KalleVonEi3 жыл бұрын
Stop it aaron! Dont go there mate....
@tsukikoamagiri2 жыл бұрын
If there's no papers, it's not scientific research
@CountingStars3332 жыл бұрын
@@tsukikoamagiri There arr papers we know nothing about.
@theindianyouwatch2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGoodCrusader less steps
@KalleVonEi2 жыл бұрын
@@theindianyouwatch /woosh ?
@johncollins12553 жыл бұрын
The entire time I was just thinking how some two poor dudes have probably been tortured like this we’ll just never know
@alzbetal14993 жыл бұрын
That’s unfortunately true... i think there is no greater good in this. It’s just messed up
@jessi48943 жыл бұрын
Auschwitz. Joseph Mengle.
@alzbetal14993 жыл бұрын
@@jessi4894 jep. disgusting shit. but also this seems like a professionally led experiment which makes it even more erie
@jukle893 жыл бұрын
We will know.. but will be undeniable truth to accept, how can one trust ever again
@MsCassidy233 жыл бұрын
Unit 731. I read a little bit of what happened there and it made me want to rock it the shower for eight hours. Pure evil
@janisi92623 жыл бұрын
I was already familiar with these experiments and skipped the dog part because I'm going through some stuff right now, so my thoughts are only in relation to the monkey side of the experiment. Ethically, I don't have a problem with this experiment, and that is due to the way these monkeys were cared for while in the hands of these researchers. From the pictures and videos, the monkeys looked healthy and happy pre-surgery. During surgery, they were anesthetized, given anti-rejection meds, antibiotics, and, presumably, painkillers. I'm not 100% sure about the painkillers, but if they hadn't been administered, the monkeys would have been panicking on awakening, not calmly eating fruit. Post-surgery, their lives were short, but again: they were cared for, studied, and a great deal was learned through this procedure, experiment, and their sacrifice. No one is perfect and no experiment is perfect, but I think the most important part is that we do our best to provide the best care possible based on our knowledge at the time.
@pinkdoll35782 жыл бұрын
They weren’t eating fruit they had no stomach. That was ice being forced into its mouth. Also these monkeys are stolen from their mothers and raised in cages never to see the sun or interact with other monkeys. You saw a 2 second clip and made a ton of assumptions.
@janisi92622 жыл бұрын
@@pinkdoll3578 I stated that I was familiar with these experiments and that prior familiarity includes the knowledge that this monkey was able to chew and swallow food. The monkey did have a stomach, since its head was attached to the other's body. Animals can be raised and live quite happily in captivity, though the exact origins of these monkeys is unknown. Yes, I made the assumption that these monkeys were reasonably healthy, because anesthesia can not be administered to unhealthy individuals for fear of killing them. For example: This is seen in morbidly obese patients who choose to have weight-loss surgery - they have to attain a weight goal in order for the operation to go ahead. If they do not, simply putting them under will likely kill them.
@user-ns3xq5sq7g2 жыл бұрын
@@pinkdoll3578 as much as I love your cause the OP of this Comment is right, your going off our own assumptions though and that’s not healthy.. it could also get you in trouble, I would reread OP’s comment before saying something okay?
@user-ns3xq5sq7g2 жыл бұрын
Btw, I love have you gave background knowledge, this is amazing and as bad as it is I heard a lot of positives come out of it, Science isn’t always ethical but it’s helpful
@pinkdoll35782 жыл бұрын
@@user-ns3xq5sq7g Get me in trouble? With who?… "I remember that the head would wake up, the facial expressions looked like terrible pain and confusion and anxiety." That’s a quote from Jerry Silver who worked alongside White during the experiment. Even IF this fantasy COULD have worked transferring an entire body would cost the receiver around 13 million dollars. Besides the fact that the donors body’s could save multiple people instead of just one. This experiment helped NO ONE and was NOT carried out in a way that was even remotely humane. Also when the spinal chord is detached you lose all function of the lower body ie the stomach. It couldn’t even breathe without a much one. Get your facts straight. Also the one of the dogs used in the previous experiment was a puppy. If you can glean positives from this you are sick and just plain incorrect.
@LoadedPistolTv3 жыл бұрын
To me sometimes we as humans must realize we are not worth more then other beings.what happens to us is meant to be.This type of twisted self righteous thinking is disgusting and should be wiped out.
@Clammychow3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if aliens abducted humans to chop off and restitch their heads bruh. That’s probably what it’s like for these animal dudes. I feel so bad for them
@murrfeeling3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they should fatten us up in a small cage to eat us.
@AntiqueBambi3 жыл бұрын
You should see Mars Attacks.. they touch on that.
@DoctorSess3 жыл бұрын
@@murrfeeling they are. Earth is just a galactic Food Court.
@God-gi9iu3 жыл бұрын
@Spencer Roper wait
@God-gi9iu3 жыл бұрын
@Spencer Roper no...
@sysbofh3 жыл бұрын
This is quite awful. Imagine the monkey, waking up on a new body, with no sensation bellow the cut. That thing is the stuff of nightmares.
@firewulfz3 жыл бұрын
To me the creepier one is the severed dog brain because it had some level of consciousness but with literally no sensory input
@sysbofh3 жыл бұрын
@@firewulfz I think none of them had sensory input bellow the cut. They wanted to see if it survived, not if it had a good life afterwards.
@Evil_Emperor_Zurg3 жыл бұрын
@@sysbofh no he's talking about some of the other experiments conducted. They only tried to keep the brain alive. Literally just a brain sitting on a table being kept alive. Unable to see, hear, taste, feel. They were able to keep the brains alive for awhile and record that they were conscious.. albeit freaking the fuck out.
@johnladuke64753 жыл бұрын
The various ones with dogs make me sad because doggos are the light of the world. But the monkey creeps me out because there's a nonzero chance that it was able to detect that it was atached to a body that was not in fact its own body. And there's just no way to go explaining that to a monkey.
@sysbofh3 жыл бұрын
@@Evil_Emperor_Zurg Ugh.
@ari-ks4cv Жыл бұрын
Didn't show the actual footage which was horrifying. The monkey screaming and biting, bleeding from every orifice. We should all be terrified not just for the animals but our own safety. Probably why they felt free to mandate the bioweapon, experimenting on everyone.
@Tomeroche2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they started with dogs and monkeys instead of something shortlived like mice just to see if a longterm option was even feasible.
@shadowambush7112 жыл бұрын
larger=easier to manage
@huxley30432 жыл бұрын
mice would be way too small for surgeries like this i think (lucky for the mice)
@memegumin3 жыл бұрын
My brain is completely split between "those poor subjects" And "this could have a very interesting results"
@mere11yn3 жыл бұрын
Well I hope it sticks to “those poor subjects” because the poor monkey ☹️ what did the damn monkey do
@bacicinvatteneaca3 жыл бұрын
@@mere11yn nothing, what's the point of your question? Would you prefer the test being done on humans?
@jukle893 жыл бұрын
If I got to have a coffee date with Gordana.. maybe
@jocelyn.__.3 жыл бұрын
@@bacicinvatteneaca yes actually. I'd prefer if itd be done on humans who were in jail for things like murder/manslaughter, rape, pedophilia, you get my drift?
@jocelyn.__.3 жыл бұрын
@Pig Mask That's not very fair?
@Gaburierairuze3 жыл бұрын
"Science is humanity's most efficient tool towards progress, but it is easy to become narrow minded pursuing a result --when that happens it is important to take a step back from the lab, and look into something just as equally important... like ethics." My chemistry professor about unorthodox (borderline cruel) research methods. As a science major and human being I'll never forget those words. So for me that experiment gets a 9 since it did help further research about organ transplantation but honestly wtf
@rodgomez44243 жыл бұрын
@hello amen
@simplyexplained8753 жыл бұрын
@hello I wouldn't.
@HaxxorElite3 жыл бұрын
@hello Of course not. Taking life for another is stupid
@HaxxorElite3 жыл бұрын
@hello I dont think talking about and deciding what one life over another is worth on KZfaq will go anywhere
@00agentmoo3 жыл бұрын
@hello just because a lot of people would realistically do something doesn’t mean that they’re right or ethical.
@livingchronicles2 жыл бұрын
I still will never understand why we use innocent animals as science experiments while serial killers are living in peace in prisons. This experiment to these monkeys that didn't deserve to be confused and not understand what's going on disgusts me.
@kkg9181 Жыл бұрын
People believed lung transplants are cruel until it actually saved someone’s life. Just need to find the balance between ethics and science in my opinion.
@inirafitzpatrick3153 жыл бұрын
Imagine being kidnapped and have your body stolen now being someone else’s with their consousness
@murrfeeling3 жыл бұрын
From what perspective would I be experiencing this?
@MOE135763 жыл бұрын
@@murrfeeling 3 person because you'll be dead...
@murrfeeling3 жыл бұрын
@@MOE13576 Ok, good, because any of the million scenarios in which I end up dead would, in my amateur opinion, feel exactly the same from the first person perspective.
@misterminutes45043 жыл бұрын
Freaky Friday : Science Edition I'm literally gonna go to hell for just writing this comment
@mynthis3 жыл бұрын
The thought of cutting off heads and attaching them onto a completely different body for work alone is 9 out of ten for me
@the4tierbridge2 жыл бұрын
Then you must be stupid. It’s a way to save human life.
@mynthis2 жыл бұрын
@@the4tierbridge I think you read my comment wrong
@the4tierbridge2 жыл бұрын
@@mynthis How so?
@simoki_23072 жыл бұрын
@@the4tierbridge _the thought of.._
@the4tierbridge2 жыл бұрын
@@simoki_2307 I still don't get it.
@99kylies152 жыл бұрын
10/10 on the unethical scale. What the heck.
@guy_b Жыл бұрын
Horrific. I'd score it a 10 no matter what benefits it brought to surgery in the future.
@zzxp13 жыл бұрын
But how they reattach the nervous system? They can't simply slap the head and call it a day. Yeah it survived, but now is in a lump of paralyzed meat.
@morganalabeille50043 жыл бұрын
I imagine that given time the nerves would attach themselves the way veins eventually do when reattaching a body part. And I know there are plenty ofsuccessful lung and heart transplants, but of which require attachment to the nervous system to function. they might have even reattached themselves in this case given that the monkey's heart clearly worked. Or more likely they just found a way to attach the spine
@God-gi9iu3 жыл бұрын
@@morganalabeille5004 idk man seems kinda sus
@swedensy3 жыл бұрын
Warrior who can't feel pain
@krashd3 жыл бұрын
For some people being a quadriplegic would still be better than death. The guy who wanted the Italian surgeon to carry out his head transplant in 2017 did so because his own body is dying and is already near useless, his head is effectively attached to a useless, dying piece of meat - so attaching it to a useless, living piece of meat would be a step up. Your body is not just your limbs, it is also your life support system, if the body dies then the brain starves.
@knightawz3 жыл бұрын
@@krashd he change his mind tho lol
@sheilafromfinance92873 жыл бұрын
“As such I’m going to rate this a....” me : this has to be an 11 this is insane Plain: “ it’s 6 because I’m squeamish” *what in gods name is a 10 then*
@jondoe66633 жыл бұрын
Unit 731 maybe?
@meap64743 жыл бұрын
Probably what Japanese scientists did to Chinese prisoners during the second world war This included freezing limbs and smashing them, shock therapy, purposely giving them STIs, taking out organs to see how long they survived (all of these done while the victims were perfectly concious by the way) etc, etc The sad news is, this is actually what helped western medicine improve so much in so little time, because the results of these experiments had to be given to Americans in agreement to the Japanese army surrendering Edit: Nvm someone commented Unit 731 before me, I'd forgotten the name of the experiments but yeah, what I described was Unit 731
@Milnoc3 жыл бұрын
Just wait. He probably has a list of subjects in waiting.
@eightbitfeline14153 жыл бұрын
@@meap6474 excuse me but they did FUCKING WHAT
@ianmay93723 жыл бұрын
@luna! It was all for the study of torture, to better understand human limits for pain and morale. The nazis did the same thing during ww2
@jayjaytetley92892 жыл бұрын
The saddest part about these tests are that they are conducted on animals that have done nothing to deserve the pain, trauma and reduced life expectancy... if these tests were done on pedophiles or murderers I would be really interested in it
@thegameranch59352 жыл бұрын
No one deserves this, even murders or pedos
@leejerrett82682 жыл бұрын
@@thegameranch5935I can think of plenty of people who absolutely deserve this and worse.
@thegameranch59352 жыл бұрын
@@leejerrett8268 for example?
@leejerrett82682 жыл бұрын
@@thegameranch5935 Putin comes to mind.
@xiphoid20112 жыл бұрын
The biggest hurdle is how to reconnect the severed spinal cord. Given the number of neurons severed, I can imagine regaining control of the host body. Hence I imagine a biomechanical body might be an easier host, at least in the near future.
@JohnSmith-ox3gy3 жыл бұрын
When your scale is defined by pure evil and the "greater good" you know the episode is going to get spicy.
@Duncan_Idaho_Potato3 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as a "head transplant" when it comes to vertebrates. Every vertebrate IS its head. The rest of the body is just life support for the head (particularly the brain). Therefore, all such transplants should be referred to as "body transplants".
@ColdNorth06283 жыл бұрын
Technically there is a head transplant. But it will involve aligning the vertibrae and also reconnecting the bodily wires that is the spinal chord.
@RB-mm7ce3 жыл бұрын
every head is just signal processor for its body. The body is the most important part, with digestive, reproductonal, and other systems functioning mainly there.
@Duplicitousthoughtformentity3 жыл бұрын
This is an uncomfortably astute comment. I am a wet computer suspended in liquid, encased in a bone shell, attached to my meat mecha by a spaghetti noodle.
@Duncan_Idaho_Potato3 жыл бұрын
@@RB-mm7ce If I replaced your head with another head, you would no longer be you. If I replaced your body with another body, you would still be you.
@RB-mm7ce3 жыл бұрын
@@Duncan_Idaho_Potato absolutely not.
2 жыл бұрын
Those agonizing monkeys are heartbreaking.
@bennet7612 жыл бұрын
How can you say that the experiments were unethical when they saved tens of thousends of human lives at the cost of a few monkeys and dogs?
@WooHooLadttv3 жыл бұрын
Finally, return to monke.
@laula8133 жыл бұрын
@@Martian_1336 Ew annoying comment
@justastrider32523 жыл бұрын
@@Martian_1336 I don't like thing therefore thing bad because me no like
@chubbybeastfishing3 жыл бұрын
Ftw but mostly all of you
@crackerjack93713 жыл бұрын
@@Martian_1336 ew somebody who thinks we care about their opinion
@crackerjack93713 жыл бұрын
@@Martian_1336 why *did you reply
@impguardwarhamer3 жыл бұрын
God this is hard to watch This is the very definition of "You were so preoccupied with whether you could, you didn’t stop to think if you should"
@BT-ex7ko3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to note how this idea differs from person to person but yet even the people doing these experiments note it to some degree. After watching this video I ended up watching the Motherboard interview of Dr. White (which is credited in the description here). Dr. White even touches on this particular point, and one thing that stuck out to me was his direct (although brief) criticism of the Soviet dog head grafting later in the interview, saying that: *"This was not an animal model [experiment] that offered much in the human range. I couldn't figure out what the idea was behind a two headed dog."* Apparently he tried to model all his experiments to gather data to help aid in the still developing field of transplant science. He also states at one point (talking about the field in general) "nobody knew how far to go - I mean after all you've got to stop somewhere."
@SuperAmaton2 жыл бұрын
8/10 out of 10 They drugged the monkeys out of their minds so they wouldn't feel pain, but it likely was absolutely traumatizing for the short time they survived and it was a experiment done with healthy Specimens that would have survived and lived in good condition if the experiment hadn't taken place. Not a 10/10 for me, there's so many ways this could be worse.
@lundsweden2 жыл бұрын
The monkies must be so damn angry! What the hell did you do to me!
@johnross50983 жыл бұрын
I know a vampire that replaced his brother's head with his own. He had a star on his shoulder.
@freeze4593 жыл бұрын
Took me a while....
@undersc0r3 жыл бұрын
What?
@woodhonky38903 жыл бұрын
@@johnross5098 well aint you big shit
@ghjkl7953 жыл бұрын
Is that like.... a JoJo reference?
@johnross50983 жыл бұрын
@@ghjkl795 yup
@datboiii14953 жыл бұрын
Schools against bullying: "you never know what they feel until you see the world through their eyes" Mr. White: yes.
@ameanboi2 жыл бұрын
this series might be one of the best that youtube recommends to me, keep up the great work
@skelm49782 жыл бұрын
Disgusting. A nightmare and huge animal abuse. This is criminal
@petrescuework-difficultcas65813 жыл бұрын
At first I thought you said "1917" experiment and I was like, yeah well, they were pretty f'ed up back then. But then it was 1970 and holy smokes that's only some 50 years in the past. This is insane
@squee2223 жыл бұрын
1970s also had forced eugenics experiments, experiments on black people without their consent in hospitals, random BS done on mental health patients like exposure to chemicals radiation electricity or bacteria... Humans can be pretty disgusting creatures when you let the ones without empathy make decisions, and expect the rest of them to follow along.
@soldjahboy3 жыл бұрын
In case you haven't realised, we're actually getting MORE fucked up as time goes on, not less...
@AndukeMTGEDH3 жыл бұрын
I know someone who got a stem cell transplant in December 2020. Without immunosuppressants she would not be here. Science is ugly sometimes
@rogaltriggs47043 жыл бұрын
I see cancer suppressed with cbd until a solution was reached but as you say science is ugly but it saved a gorgeous woman
@HooLeePhucingSheet3 жыл бұрын
@@rogaltriggs4704 yet marijuana is still illegal.
@HooLeePhucingSheet3 жыл бұрын
@Nobody comments are not funny you troglodyte so if I use marijuana to help with my CANCER TREATMENT, I'm destroying myself? Huh? Grow up.
@HooLeePhucingSheet3 жыл бұрын
@Niek Vels oh no KZfaq deleted my comment. Oh well.
@HooLeePhucingSheet3 жыл бұрын
@@voidofspaceandtime4684 Drs prescribe opium in pill form all the time lol what are you on about?
@scottgust9709 Жыл бұрын
imagine caring more about human life than an animals
@giovannireyes94552 жыл бұрын
Poor monkeys! I can't imagine the helplessness they felt. I get that testing is done on animals to further the med and science fields, but why not use actual humans? Like the idiots on death row or who are serving life in prison? That would be dope.
@veluvre24412 жыл бұрын
its still vry unethical to do it on prisoners…
@ShadowNinetales2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I'm sure a lot of us have a few assholes we know who would make good test subjects. I don't mean people who are just annoying, I'm talking the ruin-your-damn-life level of toxic, and also the serial killer/rapist/child molester trash you mentioned. That would be a perfect solution to the ethical problem of using live test subjects.
@quantumfoxgaming27223 жыл бұрын
Although the experiments are messed up imagine if in the future someone's body gets mangled to unfixable levels and then they just super glue their head on to a new body and they're perfectly fine to live out the rest of their life
@mere11yn3 жыл бұрын
But wouldn’t that person then have to take a medication for the rest of their life to then hoping every day their brain dosent reject this new whole body?!? I would be mortified to find myself in a new body I’d rather just die.
@gabevietor36853 жыл бұрын
@@mere11yn Perhaps you might, but think about how horrifying this future is already. So many strange things going on right now would freak out a person even a decade ago, and if you went back in time to when these people were performing these experiments, they would think that the idea of children constantly using machines to access limitless knowledge would be insane. It all is relative, unfortunately.
@timetraveler73 жыл бұрын
Put our head in a jar like futurama
@pwnmeisterage3 жыл бұрын
I imagine that in the future they'll basically be able to 3D print living tissue, replacement limbs and organs, damaged brain tissue. But I also imagine that only the wealthy and privileged will have access to miracle medicine. The rest of us will just be a pool of spare parts and raw biomass.
@bacicinvatteneaca3 жыл бұрын
@@pwnmeisterage there's already a thing where you take donor organs, put them in a liquid that destroys everything EXCEPT fibers, leaving a sort of organ shell or mesh, then take stem cells from the patient and have them grow into that organ, so that it doesn't get rejected.
@DeathbyProxy3 жыл бұрын
Torn between “oh those poor monkeys!” and “this is cool as hell”
@tatotaytoman59343 жыл бұрын
cool as hell
@mere11yn3 жыл бұрын
Oh my lord, do you all have no sympathy, these poor monkeys ☹️
@DeathbyProxy3 жыл бұрын
@@mere11yn I literally said I feel sorry for the monkeys
@DeathbyProxy3 жыл бұрын
@@mere11yn But as someone who’s interested in biology, the thought of a head transplant being possible is fascinating to me
@momentomoricuzimgay3 жыл бұрын
@@mere11yn well, as a person who feels little to no empathy at times, no.
@missdolittle2 жыл бұрын
My dog died yesterday. Listening to this is just ugh.
@kien1092 жыл бұрын
I'll say 3/10, I don't like it but for some to be able to walk again or even have real limbs again, thats priceless.
@GarrettStelly3 жыл бұрын
This is actually crazy interesting. The clip of the monkey's head alive, looking around and such... such a terrifying thought
@brunobucciaratiswife3 жыл бұрын
I feel terrible for these animals. I hope they’re happy wherever they are.
@hossdelgado6263 жыл бұрын
I feel like the bad guy,but they're dead. Without arguing afterlife beliefs whether religious,cultural, or otherwise.. I'm glad they aren't suffering anymore, and I really hope vengeful spirits aren't a thing, because I feel these experiments would've factory for that kind of thing.
@stephenevans59633 жыл бұрын
They're in a shallow grave behind an abandoned hospital
@alzbetal14993 жыл бұрын
Yeah but they were hurting so bad, I’m just so mad. People really are messed up kind
@tandemic42323 жыл бұрын
@@alzbetal1499 Ehh, this really isn't even that bad compared to... I don't know skinning animals alive and throwing the still living animal onto a pile of other ones. I've seen some horrific stuff on this glorious internet. Humanity can really suck, though in nature animals eating each other alive isn't too much different really if you are talking about them being in pain. sad.
@alzbetal14993 жыл бұрын
@@tandemic4232 omg don't even tell me about that, that is terrible. I think its time for humanity to end already tbh...
@Mitzoplick2 жыл бұрын
This falls under "they were so focused on whether or not they could do it, they never stopped to think about whether or not they should". Killing monkeys, and making them suffer postmortem, in hopes of making some human lives possibly slightly better for a short time.
@emptywindexbottle972 жыл бұрын
You should do an episode on the swedish tooth experiments, they are the lead reason for our great tooth health today but the cost was hundreds of humans suffering for several years
@Jayberisk37933 жыл бұрын
I generally agree with your ethical rating of 6 mostly because of the whole "for science" thing, except when they kept the brain alive outside of the head... For me, that simply cranked it up to a 9
@michielbrand41273 жыл бұрын
This was extremely disturbing. I know we need to do experiments to advance in medical science but I wish there was a better way, instead of using animals and putting them though this absolute horror. I'd rate this a 10, stuff of nightmares
@abhorrentheathen3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, we should be using sex offenders
@lShadowdark3 жыл бұрын
There is just not other ways, if you put moral and ethics to everything, we would be in 1221 medical advancements
@michielbrand41273 жыл бұрын
If it's a choice between animals and sex offenders, then yes I agree with AbhorrentHeathen.
@alexadame48283 жыл бұрын
People have it coming, that monkey prolly didn't do shit to nobody though.
@flyingsquirrelfpv48663 жыл бұрын
The people that put human life lower than animals is terrifying.
@abandonedmuse2 жыл бұрын
I don’t even like dogs but I cannot fathom HOW YOU CAN DO THIS TO A POOR DOGGIE OR A MONKEY! This is horrible.
@stainSqaud2 жыл бұрын
Seeing that little monkey wake up made me so sad
@_dragonstorm_26353 жыл бұрын
I feel like this some human centipede type of science. I can’t imagine just being a head being kept alive by a body that isn’t yours. However, I can’t lie about how useful head transplants can be if they manage to make it work. Unfortunately with the current need for more research on how to repair a severed nervous system I don’t see head transplants happening anytime soon... and frankly I feel like that is for the best.
@ulrikahaggard99233 жыл бұрын
If I get to decide it I want my head to be experimented on after I die
@crustbucket27253 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of AHS Coven where dude has his friend limbs attached to him and he remembers how each dude got each tattoo that is now apart of him. Creepy shit
@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how awesome it would be to transfer your conscientiousness/brain to an artificial body like an Android body, or a new body fabricated after your genetics with embryonic stem cells. Immortality
@skroz13 жыл бұрын
Well then, that was terrible. Can we go back to talking about horrifying deaths and injuries from radiation and chemicals, please?
@evelynvslife3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, horrible things happening to people I can tolerate. But animals? Nope.
@nedludd76223 жыл бұрын
Particularly Agent Orange that the US experimented on humans in wars.
@MisterIvyMike3 жыл бұрын
@@evelynvslife Oh yeah, let's talk about human lobotomy...
@FumbleSquid3 жыл бұрын
@@evelynvslife It's more about how deliberate and nightmarish the thing is. Obviously from a moral calculation standpoint one person (counting the monkees as people due to intelligence) dieing is typically not as bad as a group dieing, but vivisection and torture just somehow amps things up emotionally. There's a reason deliberate action vs accidental action is used so much in ethical hypotheticals. Accidents are a lot easier to deal with on the conceance than torture.
@evelynvslife3 жыл бұрын
@@MisterIvyMike yeah I’m okay hearing about that. It’s messed up, but I don’t think it’s worse than cutting two creatures heads off, leaving one dead, and transplanting one head on the others body and watching it slowly die. You are free to disagree, but I think this experiment is worse than human lobotomy.
@All-Hail-Gayle2 жыл бұрын
I can handle the human species experimenting on each other, but when other animals are involved I just get pissed
@Thief-lf4er2 жыл бұрын
Man these scientist were some sick people
@InsomniacFlaaffy3 жыл бұрын
I rate this on the Ethical Scale right on "Goodness to God, This Gives Me Anxiety"
@TheKhfan0013 жыл бұрын
Urgh... This makes my stomach churn and feel nauseous. My neck felt like it was being touched this whole video. Yo, this kind of treatment of animals is ducked up. It's something out of a horror movie; Human centipede levels of disgusting. I can't imagine what these animals were thinking or how much suffering they endured before perishing. Can you imagine if this was done on a human where they could effectively communicate what they're going through? This turns the whole thing into a "Monkey of Theseus" problem.
@keks1373 жыл бұрын
was still interesting to see what science could do, even though I am a little concerned how they got these ideas
@RaivoltG3 жыл бұрын
That monkey looked scared as hell, the one they were trying to feed.
@USSAnimeNCC-3 жыл бұрын
Your not the only one shit man 😱
@rodgomez44243 жыл бұрын
"Are we men or are we mice? We're mice!!!" Hahahah this world may be little too rough for you buddy. If every advancement for humanity relied upon a misplaced "care" for different species, we wouldn't even come close to be where we are. I'm part of team people yo.
@DonRoyalX3 жыл бұрын
@@rodgomez4424 it’s like saying the experiments of the deranged Nazi scientists on unwilling humans is something to be revered bcoz of its positive effects. I’m not dismissing ur points, but I think u should take care in being far, far more attentive to the details and at least try to show respect towards the immensity of such a bizarre topic. Millions of animals didn’t die in brutal experiments just so u can say “team people yo” u cringey shit
@jebwatersheep34582 жыл бұрын
A solid 9. Poor things were terrified and couldn’t move, pumped full of drugs and surrounded by strangers before slowly dying. Disgusting.
@MisledNeNick2 жыл бұрын
This video made me not only not skip the ad in the middle, but actually watch it emtirely. Mostly because I needed it as a moment away from the video.