Ol' Charlie Brown

Yare yare daze

Good Grief

Good Grief

that's sums it up .

Thank you.

Twin: Yea, I remember a lot of that in the adult films I watched.

The very first Peanuts strip had Charlie Brown walking down the street. Two other kids were there. One said... "There's Charlie Brown." ""Charlie Brown." "Good ol' Charlie Brown." "How I hate him!" That's something you never saw in a kids' comic strip until then.

True fax

Yeah, me too. But it really just depends on the person. I mean, a lot of my friends, including most of my closest, get annoyed exactly at the lack of dark and edgy being associated with a show or movie being "adult".

Well, Sparky didn't exactly try to discourage this theory, in fact he all but confirmed it while he was still alive.

I'd chosen to 'suspend disbelief ' around all of this. I'd never thought about Charlie Brown as actually being depressed.

Respek for him.

My life has no purpose, no direction, no aim, no meaning, and yet I'm happy. I can't figure it out. What am I doing right? ~Charles M. Schulz

He really said that?@@cdorman11

I was never under the impression that Marcie had a crush on Charlie Brown. Looking back as an adult, I thought that perhaps Marcie was in love with Peppermint Pattie.

​@@surferdude4487Why did Marcie always call Peppermint Pattie " sir" ?

​@juiliereminiec6332 because of how manly Patty came off.

​@@KateryReminiec9399 a nickname given out of respect and admiration?

@@surferdude4487There’s a comic with her having a huge crush on him.

The Gospel (I Corinthians 15:1-4) is all any of us needs.

@@unastamus6122 true

I do think it is important to remember that the Gospel was written by men, not God. It is a collection of books, which is not how a god would communicate with people. If the Gospels were real, you'd see angels coming down to everyone to teach it to them. But you don't, showing that it is another man-made creation. @@unastamus6122

@@unastamus6122 true. i wish more people nowadays would have been taught Christianity

I feel you. Charlie Brown became my "hero" in a way because of that. He was depressed like me, but he was also kind, gentle and friendly... helped me realized my depression didn't make me the bad person I convinced did.

Did you ever work out an effect means to manage the disorder.

@@willkoestner4159 Yes, but unfortunately, it’s far from a universal solution. I processed my underlying childhood trauma by writing a novel.

10 in the 1980s when we were kids that just something we watched for😂 just a😂 cartoon

@@BonnieBurton-gf3gn Wow! My parents were teenagers back then! It’s amazing how Peanuts has been around for over half a century!

Peanuts Wiki was very helpful in finding a lot of the specific dates and details as I was writing and editing. So thanks to everyone there for all your excellent work!

@@DavidJBradley It did rather sound like you had used Peanuts Wiki in your research, with your precise references to when characters and elements first appeared in the strip. Thanks for confirming that and I'm very pleased you found it useful.

@@spews1973 I don't know if either of you were aware of this Schulz anecdote: When the co-creator of Committed and Over The Hedge introduced himself as such to Sparky at the NCS get-together in San Antonio, his flustered response was "You know, I've done other things besides Peanuts, too..." Yes, CMS's immediate feelings were of inferiority because this stranger had done *two* comic strips compared to his *one!* It doesn't get much Charlie Brownier than that!

Can I join as one of the admins I have like 58 snoopy plushies and I know a lot but I am young

@@ToastedBacon.You can edit Peanuts Wiki (if you're over 13).I usually only make someone an admin after they've edited the wiki for at least 6 months, have proven that they know a lot about Peanuts and have proven that they have excellent English writing skills.

I didn't know Peanuts was a children's show parody.

​@@jesseroggio7260 they didn't mean Peanuts, they meant the parodies of Peanuts and others.

National Lampoon did a parody of Peanuts in which Lucy's bullying of Charlie Brown, starting right after he says "Wow, I almost feel good today" is ramped up to the sort of real physical brutality that bullying often is. It was truly dark humor. But sadly, it was kind of on point.

Charlie Brown brings alot of people joy lol

BS. God just make it into anything you want, tired of this kind of BS. You are full of it who want to try to turn a little kids show into something that isn't.

The peanuts can't be childish like Catherine says there aren't any diffrent colored animals in it and they don't imagen things in there backyard and there aren't any yellow caricters with bouncey tails in it and there are no caricters named foofa and there aren't any guinea pigs ducks or turtles in it and they don't rescue baby animals I really love the peanuts there so much more

Classic lol

YO!

Hey, It´s Cody :D

For sure

Tf is this goofy mf doing here🤨

This comic strip is only mildly dark, and uses children to express the existential woes of individuals and society, I believe. Always went over my head as a kid..I just laughed at the slapstick humor of Lucy and Charlie with the football.

One thing Sparky Schulz mentioned about Peppermint Patty was he got a letter from a woman who IIRC worried he was using PP to make fun of narcolepsy which was pretty much the opposite of what he meant to do -- he said PP isn't narcoleptic, she just waits up late for her dad who often didn't get home from work until late. In his day no one knew ADHD was a thing, yet he nailed it. He also said PP was his only other character who could carry a strip.

Bless the person who wrote that. He or she is a writer after my own heart...

Should someone tell that soldier that Charlie Brown is a child and a fictional one at that?

@@YseaSumera Jesus is fictional. People still quote Him today! Good grief!!!

Me, too. But I don't want to remember my school years.

@@davidlafleche1142 Me too hon, me too. Good thing I never tried certain ideas involving chocolate and poison back then...only ones who would have been hurt were those who took my candy from me of course. And we are talking 55 years since I was their punching bag...

Same! I honestly never considered other kids would read Charlie Brown and also identify with him. I honestly felt I was the only one. Whenever people brought up the Peanuts they were happy laughing and talking about Snoopy. I'd laugh also, not willing to share my feelings of deep sadness and depression that I felt when I'd read the dozens of Charlie Brown books I had collected over time. I've grown up since then but I'm sure I'm not over everything. :( "But just wait till next year! That's when I'll heal. Yeah, just wait till next year." :)

@@bubblemum Now that is a revenge slash self defense strategy I had never considered.

I wrote a whole song about it, called Isn't It Nice by Menage' A Tune on Bandcamp, I don't think I can link to it here though. One of my more popular songs :D

That's really beautiful, thank you

thank you for sharing. agreed on all points. great cartoon.

sorry for your loss!

That is lovely! Thank you for sharing that.

thank you for sharing. I hope you're doing okay

You mean as in his neighbors giving him a rock on Halloween? The author's childhood trauma is played out in Charlie Brown. This was his childhood encapsulated in a cartoon seen by millions. His issues were never dealt with. If they had been there would have been no cartoon. childhood trauma

so sorry for your loss! :(

I don't mind darker takes when they're done well/interestingly, but at the same time I hate feeling punched in the childhood. It's very hard to balance, tbh.

@@juliagoodwin9510 Yeah I think there are ways of doing darker takes for kids who grew with a franchise, but it's very, very hard to pull off well in my opinion

If it were shallow, kids could shrug it off. But YOU put kids in the position of Charlie Brown by coddling them WHILE calling them shallow for "needing" that imposition. South Park, while aimed at adults, was directed at frustration from this haughty behavior by shallow adults. Without being particularly DEEP, it was just handling adult topics in a wide range that included humor, no need to dive past one element to find the depth behnid it. Your craving for "depth" is always actually complaining about media that kinda offends you, but you don't have the depth personally to shrug it off, you have to have a little cry about it. Thin skin is so shallow. Even Angela Anaconda disturbs people despite just being feminine swap of South Park about twee girls' books and cable netwwork kids' dramas. But it's the SLIGHTEST amount of "edge" not being airbrushed off, that gives you this discomforting feeling of uncanny valley and even minimal artistic challenge. But that's normal, if you cry about things at the correct stage of your own maturation, that's the pain of growing up. And kids COULD shrug off South Park, that's abundantly clear. It wasn't THEM who needed the cartoonish depiction, it was the adults who needed those training wheels to understand the difference between fiction and reality. Which is why South Park slipped past the radar of any bigger controversies to take it down, while EVERYONE past the age 12 was watching it. It was one of the thin lines in social sphere kids were still able to grasp to use for their maturation instead of being coddled. That unpadded playing ground does have a little bit of a rough surface to it sorry for the sharp edges. Just don't fall off the monkey bars and you'll be wall-climbing for sport with the adults in no time. "Depth" is a non-factor.

It's ment for adults? It's so tame lol

​@@sboinkthelegday3892sometimes we just want adult shows that don't act immature just because they can.

I hate those "unrequited crush" stories. When I write a story, the guy and the girl like each other.

@@davidlafleche1142 "Unrequited crush" stories are 90% of real life high school relationships though.

​@@misterwhipple2870lmao what

@@SergeantExtremedoesn’t make it right.

@@misterwhipple2870someone watched too much Family Guy.

I wonder if his family noticed “THEIR “T” IS MISSING NOW FROM SCHULTZ!!!!!! GOOD GRIEF!!!!”

Well written, thank you for this

A massive amount of projection going on in these comment sections and in the video itself . It was a cartoon trying to convey childhood whimsy , written by an older man so of course it has its idiosyncrasies . People are reading far too much into this and making much ado about nothing -- as if the Peanuts is on par with the Bible or something . Good grief , hehe

​@@SabbaticusRex 🙄

@@SabbaticusRex No, these interpretations are accurate. Schultz talked about the fact that he was very deliberate with the traits and personalities of most of the characters and why he made the choices he did. I didn't even put together Peppermint Patty's scenario until I saw him talk about it one time.

@@SabbaticusRexwe’re all very aware of that, it’s still fun to theorize

Yea, the Peppermint Patty part hit different. I did poorly in school to the point of being held back. I still didn't care and was rather uninterested until grade 8 or 9 where I wanted to do sports so I put in a minimal amount of effort. In my case it was autism that went undiagnosed well into adulthood.

Yeah, that part got to me as well. I never did poorly in school myself, but my twin was not so lucky. In fact, the main reason I utterly despise exams is because of the effect I noticed them having on my fellow students (both the strugglers and the academically ambitious).

No helped Peppermint Patty? Charlie Brown did what he could, he was always there for her a friend. These are KIDS, not adults, in an era when kids didn't tell their parents about issues with other kids.

😊😊😊😢😢😢

I love learning, I just hated school.

Sparky is A Legend. One of the Greatest Comic Strip Cartoonists of all time.

Weirdly placed humblebrag, but that aside, hard agree.

@@rubyy.7374 Humblebrag? Maybe. Or maybe I wanted to give context as to who I was, was proud of what I'd done, and wanted to acknowledge the debt anyone working in the industry owes to Schulz.

@@emmagrove6491 And yet Sparky himself would probably half-deny his contributions since he was always quick to praise the cartoonists he admired growing up. But of course he never felt he measured up since, due to papers (and comics) being physically bigger when he was young, comic strips could and did have lush art and his art style had always been minimalist even before Peanuts. Regardless, Sparky was and still is an inspiration.

Nah, it’s ok to brag.

@@bethstaley467 The majority of neurotypicals are nasty people, just my own personal opinion.

@@bethstaley467 I think it's important to realize neurotypical does not mean rational. Neurotypicals constantly do irrational things. So equating neurotypical to sane is a mistake.

​@maverickhistorian6488 I don't agree but I don't trust the world or society

I'm an autistic adult and I still relate to Charlie Brown on a personal level lol

Not autistic but same here. So does Calvin.

No-one else could have delivered that "How I hate him." with such relish

Never did I ever have a friend say this to me, "You're lucky that Charlie Brown didn't have to become a vocabulary bee. If he were put up to become a vocabulary bee, he would have to study harder. Everything is predictable in this line of progress." 🐝

I always thought the Peanuts was more ‘culturally Jewish’ than it was Christian. Charlie Brown being the most famous example of a nebbish probably has something to do with that.

“Re: the Christian themes in peanuts, as a Jewish person I’ve always felt positively about this aspect of the series, or at least not bothered by it.” Watching _A Charlie Brown Christmas_ as a little kid in a Jewish household, I never knew what to make of Linus’s speech on the meaning of Christmas, except that it seemed to change what was a form of “holiday” (read: secular) entertainment into a religious one, one that I couldn’t make sense of because I had no idea of the reference. I didn’t think there was anything wrong with that-in fact, I think, even at a young age, I might have appreciated the honesty of it. (For all its secular trappings, we didn’t celebrate Christmas in our family.) As for the Bible verses, to the extent I even remember them in the strip, I just took them as a sign of Charles Schulz viewing that sort of thing as being part of the “default normative culture”-kind of “If you’re reading this strip, you _obviously_ know about these verses (or at least their context)”-which _wasn’t_ a plus but just the way things were, at least at that time.

@@jeff__wI think people who aren’t Christian, even though it may be hard as a kid, can appreciate Linus’s speech as being anti-consumerism and remembering that holidays are meant to be about the human experience and endless buying.

@@misterknightowlandco in America it was literally originally a day where workers would mess with their bosses by having fun and leaving a mess in rich people’s neighborhoods. Then those rich people had enough and pumped out propaganda to make it all about gifts and those dear little kids. Bastards used the youth as propaganda props. Not saying you should stop giving gifts and forget your child’s happiness, but just have that context in mind and note all that packaging and wasted resources that go into a gift that the receiver didn’t like.

Maybe American Jews are overwhelmingly secular?

I want to second this - exactly what I came down to the comments to write! Stellar voice cast all around. Perfect intonation of lines I have read a thousand times and usually only "heard" in my head.

I recognized Kyle right away lol

They all did absolutely Phenomenal

There was serious emotion behind some of the VO's. Exceptionally well done.

Sparky was close to his Mother too. Her Death from Cancer in 1943 weighed on him for the Rest of his life.

Agreed, the media material that truly is respectful to victims is few and far between it seems like

If ever there was an endorsement

Omg I’m sitting here thinking I need a Peppermint Patty tattoo because of this video too!

My brother, now 76, had Snoopy cursing the Red Baron tattooed on his right shoulder while he was in the navy in 1968. He says it's the only tat he never regretted getting. Good luck with yours!

They can't because they're not a person. They are a building. I think you worded it kinda weird.

I remember reading the storyline about the school building collapsing. Charlie Brown and the gang had to attend the school Peppermint Patty, Marcie, and Franklin attended until their school was being rebuilt .

@@rommix0 A building that is both sentient and sapient.

Everybody tries to copy Matpat and it gets boring. I think it's also just an attitude of "Let's take something innocent and make it freaky!!" for shock value

and the fact that it's just the overly repeated cliché that people come up with when they can't come up with anything actually interesting "iT's PurGaToRy GuyS WoAh!!!"

@pinkdostoyevsky the short of it is youtube has a tendency to auto-delete comments with certain words at random, so sometimes using the word "suicide" and "queer" tend to just get instantly deleted by an algorithm.

@@Pazliacci Plus you have problems publishing videos with words like "mur--r" and "suo--de" in the title, as YT algorithm will basically shadowban those videos to appease the advertisers as "family friendly" (example: Zero Punctuation "The KZfaq of Sonic the Hedgehog" reviewing the game "The Mur--r of Sonic the Hedgehog")

Radical Wicked Witch = Wonderfully Wise Witch! Brilliant analysis. I now understand why the Netflix version of All Quiet On The Western Front left me unmoved. Your explanation of how the artifice of edginess warps meaning is insightful. It's a loathsome trend in opera productions, shifts context and characterisation aside. The gloomy explication in this video was too disconcerting for me and necessitated much fast forwarding but it ended on a lovely note. Charlie Brown's integrity and sweetness is monumental. There's a lot of strength in that little guy. Debonair Snoopy (no doubt a component of his self-identification) is my favourite.

A book I think you'll appreciate is "The Gospel According to Charlie Brown". It is mostly the writer looking at certain Peanuts comics and applying to different Bible verses and stuff.

Jesus had no siblings

This sounds quite similar to what the philosopher Slavoj Sizek thinks on British culture and it’s post-imperial decay! The main point is basically that imperial overstretch created a sort of void within British identity, where, because of how ubiquitous and omnipresent Britain has become in global politics and pop culture, British things no longer seem so British. The example that comes to mind right now is the fact that English is our Lingua Franca!

Please let this meme die

@@user-vi4xy1jw7e yes please

There's nothing I love more than making my videos ~an experience~

Same. Laura Crone as Lucy is also brilliant and it's always great to hear Jessie Gender in more stuff.

You know? I unironically think there'd be decent money in that. The voice acting could be pretty fun and it would make getting through something as unwieldy as Peanuts MUCH easier.

really?

You sound like you have a fever of not remembering things.

The David J Bradley sad times guarantee