The Day Game of Thrones Died
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An exploration into the history of Game of Thrones, the creative aspects that led to its unique success, and the one episode that sparked the show's downfall.
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@EntertainTheElk 5 жыл бұрын
What should I explore next in my Day ___ Died series? SOUND OFF!
@Nothing-ic1fl 5 жыл бұрын
Doctor Who would be a good one to do
@fieryfist3150 5 жыл бұрын
Entertain The Elk Why my wife left me.
@Ariel.94 5 жыл бұрын
Malcolm in the middle please
@fr0ggisoup 5 жыл бұрын
the day criminal minds died ??
@TFedits85 5 жыл бұрын
Star Wars
@jasonjones8450 5 жыл бұрын
HBO wanted more episodes. GRRM wanted more episodes. The actors wanted more episodes. The fans wanted more episodes. D&D wanted the Star Wars trilogy. I'll NEVER forgive D&D for what they did to this show.
@KneelB4Bacon 5 жыл бұрын
This. HBO wrote D&D a blank check for the last two seasons. Budget (CGI or otherwise) was NEVER a problem for them. D&D ran out of source material and revealed that they were in WAY over their heads when it came to writing their own stuff. They wanted to bail on the show, which is why they only ordered 8 episodes.
@ULTRAliam 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure some actors wanted to move on and even the set designers. Still, I would have loved more episodes but it had to end somehow.
@S0uLGamin 5 жыл бұрын
ULTRA.liam it didn’t have to end poorly tho
@AxlSlashDuff 5 жыл бұрын
Kit literally had to go to rehab as a reaction to the show ending. I think the actors wanted to give their breakout roles the ending they deserved. But star wars happened lol
@MegaSolidgamer 5 жыл бұрын
Is that real? Can someone please confirm this posting a link ?
@dcli182 5 жыл бұрын
Brienne closing the book before the ink was dry was a metaphore for this entire season.
@brandonbattle5068 5 жыл бұрын
oh gawd I am glad im not the only one that had this thought lol
@s.mmostafakamal2671 5 жыл бұрын
yep rushed
@eno2870 5 жыл бұрын
HA! I noticed that too. I was like.. um.. isn't she supposed to sprinkle sand on that or something to make it dry? She went to all that work to write all that, and there ain't nobody that's going to be reading a word of it now.
@temiladeadekunle1112 5 жыл бұрын
Word!
@mau2074 5 жыл бұрын
Copy and paste
@meekmeads 4 жыл бұрын
Arya went West Drogon went East Jon went North The Show went SOUTH
@Jul10T 4 жыл бұрын
Which reminds us, we don't get to see what happened at Dorne, either
@ODoyleRulz 3 жыл бұрын
Zing!
@sistersofthegeek5895 3 жыл бұрын
Ah! So true!
@DeadlierThanLag 3 жыл бұрын
,ezzeze,e3333
@OwlBard Жыл бұрын
Finger guns
@ronryan7398 4 жыл бұрын
"Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?" LITERALLY EVERYONE!!!!
@kenburns4547 4 жыл бұрын
Even Kevin Costner in Waterworld.
@TheCreepyLantern 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the Hounds story more then Bran's. I shudder to think of the amount of mockery and swearwords the Hound would give me if I tried to tell him that makes him king now
@str8dominican 4 жыл бұрын
Hotpie has a better fcvking story than.
@TonyStark-km5wl 4 жыл бұрын
Even ed sheeran
@reenabiju2939 3 жыл бұрын
He knows everyones story
@maxcovfefe 5 жыл бұрын
If season 1 had been like season 8, this show never woulda made it to a second season.
@dex3057 5 жыл бұрын
shut up kid everyone will watch the show.They dont care about people opinions
@fxtal2775 5 жыл бұрын
@@dex3057 I don't think so
@dex3057 5 жыл бұрын
@@fxtal2775 nobody carew what you think
@fxtal2775 5 жыл бұрын
@@dex3057 lol your a GoT fanboy 😂
@EntrEsprit 5 жыл бұрын
no it will,you know Vikings 5 season was really bad,but they made it to season 6 XD
@bingbippo1073 5 жыл бұрын
I can excuse gendry running to the wall he had been rowing for three straight seasons so his cardio was excellent
@averyjackblack7420 4 жыл бұрын
😃
@AndreaHa 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 exactly
@nikolatovar9884 4 жыл бұрын
King Hippo Your comment made me literally LOL. Kudos.
@kiks399 4 жыл бұрын
off the charts!
@theboy1625 4 жыл бұрын
King Hippo did he run on his hands
@bplup6419 5 жыл бұрын
Season 7 has higher ratings than season 2. NO.
@TheSuperNats 4 жыл бұрын
It’s because GOT became such a huge phenom over 7 seasons, more so than the first
@daveruda 4 жыл бұрын
The first 4 seasons are were its at. The rest became something else.
@aswinremesh6312 4 жыл бұрын
@@daveruda I'd say first four seasons and 70% of season 5 and 6
@Budd631 4 жыл бұрын
Aswin Remesh this!! Very accurate. I still think 6 is great. 5 got slow but the last few episodes were amazing. 7 had great moments as well but it had rushed moments.
@TheZBUCKNER 4 жыл бұрын
@@aswinremesh6312 Yup.
@caitojones3140 4 жыл бұрын
“The dead are coming to life - quick, get the women and children to the place we keep all our dead!”
@purplexninjamom 3 жыл бұрын
@Anjelica Snorcket Right? Just make one of the main protagonists the ultimate antagonist!!!
@purplexninjamom 2 жыл бұрын
@Anjelica Snorcket Oh no, not at all! People claim to have seen it coming since before S1 Ep1! :/
@hunterjones8818 5 жыл бұрын
I am enjoying watching videos criticizing season 8 more than watching the actual season.
@lalarie831 5 жыл бұрын
Hunter Jones me too! They validate my disappointment
@annaphelps3874 5 жыл бұрын
Truth!
@tobias064 5 жыл бұрын
same... and I always end up angry xd
@skywalker6648 5 жыл бұрын
So sad, isn't it?
@HA-rl4fz 5 жыл бұрын
I stopped at episode 3 right after you know arya karate jumped all the way
@traderaptor9643 5 жыл бұрын
Game of thrones didn't just die it was murdered
@lil_chainmail8795 4 жыл бұрын
correction: water boarded for several months and then disemboweled by d&d
@francescoiannino2990 4 жыл бұрын
Brutally
@izehsy6715 4 жыл бұрын
More like manslaughter since D&D were blissfully unaware of how bad their writing is
@nothorren 4 жыл бұрын
wrong channel bud
@DaraGaming42 4 жыл бұрын
Trade Raptor you could say the same for Star Trek
@bernardobarbalat5156 4 жыл бұрын
Dragon: who killed my mother, Jon Snow? Jon: the chair. Dragon: I knew it
@prathamshukla1280 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated 😂
@jayesh1891 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@summertyme5748 4 жыл бұрын
Plot armor. D&D are just bad TV writers so they do all the usual garbage.
@Skelstoolbox 4 жыл бұрын
That dragon stole his knife, just to be sure..
@Nathan-jh1ho 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, it has like a thousand swords
@EmyN 4 жыл бұрын
Back when the first seasons aired I was already picturing myself crying over Daenerys, Cersei, Jaime, or whoever I thought would die, and when it did happen I felt nothing 😐
@samiaaguilar7729 4 жыл бұрын
Emily Norris the exact thing happened to me
@Romy-90 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It was so hollow and unemotional that I just wanted it to be over. The only emotion I felt was being sad and angry about how the show was murdered.
@wicked_deftlady 4 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@sistersofthegeek5895 3 жыл бұрын
You just described my feelings! Thank you 😔
@pleiadesds2012 5 жыл бұрын
Advice for new writers. Never underestimate viewers intelligence.
@pleiadesds2012 5 жыл бұрын
@@freeph78 That's just being dumb, nothing else. Only a dumb person would destroy his career by ignoring viewers.
@tiziobello5974 4 жыл бұрын
@Brazilian Goddess well that's why is called average IQ
@bredwright 4 жыл бұрын
Neo Virz you underestimate my power!!!
@avisco01 4 жыл бұрын
Why would new writers learn from this? D&D won Emmys for this.
@DWLADS 4 жыл бұрын
And that is why I love The Sopranos so much, the writers always had the biggest respect for the viewers they never made things straight forward and easy to understand, every little detail was put there for a reason, if Game of Thrones never ended the way it did it would arguably top the sopranos for me but I don’t think anything ever will
@brandononeal543 5 жыл бұрын
They also rushed Jon and Danys love story, i never felt the connection between them, and they destroyed Gendry and Arya's love story.
@dave7244 5 жыл бұрын
That love story was killed for feminism.
@natesoto1362 5 жыл бұрын
They killed the would be relationship with Brianne and Tormund in favor of a one night stand.... lame.
@WildBison74 5 жыл бұрын
Nate Soto I knoooow I was so waiting for tormund and Brienne. Would have been the best!
@cuuy 5 жыл бұрын
Gendry and Arya's story is pure fan service, it was 100% unnecessary, actually Gendry was 100% unnecessary, many characters were brought back just to please the audience "oh cool, he/she's back!" and have no real importance of impact on the story.
@forthelichkingsname 5 жыл бұрын
@@cuuy that make-me-a-weapon talk between Arya and Gendry didn't made any sense. I thought she's trying to have a throwable javelin-like weapon to get the undead dragon but she just swung it around killing level 1 mobs.
@popejpv 4 жыл бұрын
Tyrion “who has a better story than Bran the broken?” Me: *literally fast forwarded through any bran scene up until he ended up at winterfell*
@aprilwhiteside6337 4 жыл бұрын
popejpv thought that was just me! So wanted Tyrion to end up as Sansa’s hand & the rulers of each of the kingdoms making decisions together.
@Decetop 4 жыл бұрын
I never could figure out why Weiss and Benioff had such hard-ons for their least interesting characters.
@daveruda 4 жыл бұрын
@@Decetop Subverting expectations?
@vitoriawithanaccent 3 жыл бұрын
For me, GOT died in episode 10 of the 6th season when Varys traveled from Dorne to Meerreen in a record and impossible amount of time. It showed that the writers no longer cared about the rules of this universe and if they were willing to do something like that for entertainment, they could do anything and break any rule, that was when I realized that the next seasons were gonna be completely different than the show I feel in love with.
@MrTwentington 5 жыл бұрын
Saying Jaime’s arc got thrown out the window was cleverer writing than both the last two episodes put together
@12valkyer 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, Jon was my boy but Jamie's arc being demolished the way it was broke my heart. What a waste.
@spacekoalalove 4 жыл бұрын
"cleverer writing"..... huh... okay then.
@icecoldnut5152 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah throwing Jaimes arc out the window really crippled the show
@jonathancooper4914 4 жыл бұрын
Connor C I think Jaime shoulda stayed on the stark side and killed Cersei in the end. That would made more sense for his character arc.
@natesoto1362 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I didn't catch that episode 1 pun til this comment!
@yandhiadi3021 5 жыл бұрын
GRRM killed your favourite charecter . But D&D killed your favourite show .
@trappnest4490 5 жыл бұрын
GoT stopped being my favorite show after season 7
@Utoko 5 жыл бұрын
and GRRM never killed characters just for the plot twist. He just didn't give any character "plot armor". As soon as the book ended the fav characters had all plot armor like arya and they killed of daenerys only because the show was over anyway.
@tobagosdetrinidad6781 5 жыл бұрын
Still mY favorite. Even though d and d had meddled with foolish tactics.
@denisekent524 5 жыл бұрын
Stefan Kuehnle George gave Bran and Tyrion “ plot armour” from book one.
@mavericksquid 5 жыл бұрын
This argument is bogus. Dan & Dave infamously had a dinner with GRRM shortly after the premiere of S4. During that dinner, George outlined the main plot points of the remaining story. All 3 parties have confirmed that this conversation happened. D&D told George's story. You can certainly make the argument that these plot points were perhaps rushed due to the lack of episodes left. But if you're mad at what took place within the story itself.... your beef is with GRRM. Not D&D.
@dcpodcastbros.7953 4 жыл бұрын
Game of Thrones died with Tywin. Season 5 and 6 were tolerable, but 7 and 8 were pretty bad.
@thepreacher4810 3 жыл бұрын
Tolerable ? You are too nice
@vermarajkr1 3 жыл бұрын
Season 7 was best
@bug7756 3 жыл бұрын
@@vermarajkr1 how?
@benmac7552 3 жыл бұрын
The unbelievability of the faith militant storyline killed season 5 and 6 for me.
@chriscueva1866 2 жыл бұрын
@@benmac7552 I’m a believer that there are only 2 great seasons. 1 and 4.
@masonshort1572 5 жыл бұрын
Idk why I keep watching all these season 8 analysis videos😂 it’s not like watching them is gonna change how the show ended
@sophiacheng464 4 жыл бұрын
we been hurt,try to recover from these
@Diamondsrfvr 4 жыл бұрын
Crunchiest Chip ...I know you wrote this 5 months ago, but I think watching these kinds of videos has been us trying to understand what happened in the actual storytelling of the show in season 8, and trying to make sense of it.....These videos also give us other people's perspectives about what went so horribly wrong with the way D & D wrote and produced the final season.
@rhythmandblues_alibi 4 жыл бұрын
There are some fantastic rewrite videos that have really brought some closure for me.
@Back2Humanity 4 жыл бұрын
It's therapy, we put some serious time and energy into this world and it was thrown back at us while they laughed as they banked their big Disney cheque.
@Nathan-jh1ho 4 жыл бұрын
rhythmandblues alibi who's rewrite is your favorite
@LegoMocs1 5 жыл бұрын
The day GoT died was when D&D got signed to do a Star Wars trilogy.
@MrGreenCheddar 5 жыл бұрын
I for one will not being seeing that and largely because of them.
@majormononoke8958 5 жыл бұрын
Nop, Game of thrones never died... I just got bad ... and you are the judge when it came... For me personaly Season 7 and 8 are the parts where it got really bad ... But season 6 already had its big problems... For others it may be even season 5 ... IN all this we can see one thing ... the author should have never told them his planes so they could tell their "own" story(after the books were overrun) and/ or the two D should have stop being involved or who ever is responisble for this disaster... I mean come on if they want to attend to other projects or whatever... they should have given it to somebody else... An other Problem is that the actors were getting old ...
@GhostofRhurValley 5 жыл бұрын
True HBO should have questioned their motivation when they got signed .
@myguykaikai9215 5 жыл бұрын
The day it died was when they ran out of source material. D&D obviously cannot write convincing stories, and failed miserably trying to pick up where GRRM left off.
@jameshubbardr 5 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily true - they had been saying it would be 7 seasons since close to the beginning of the show.
@LucaMatoke 5 жыл бұрын
Season 8 in brief:🧕 "Shame!" 🔔. 🧕 "Shame!" 🔔. 🧕 "Shame!" 🔔. 🧕 "Shame!" 🔔
@RanaRandom 4 жыл бұрын
DING DING DING DING DING DING
@wicked_deftlady 4 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@nebunecar 3 жыл бұрын
Shame! Shame! Shame to the sinners D&D! Shame! Shame!
@agentdmtisme2310 2 жыл бұрын
I sincerely hope there's people out there that see D&/orD in public & berate them with this mantra for the rest of their lives. They deserve worse but I'd settle for that.
@TotallyNotJustCynical 4 жыл бұрын
The show died for me when they killed Stannis and his whole journey without so much as a proper fight scene. The treatment of that character was just a joke.
@jonathancooper4914 4 жыл бұрын
Quaid Dalton Stannis’s arc was poorly executed indeed.
@bogdan1746 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is he didn't even have an army (which he did befor ehe started marching)
@RealGateGuardian 4 жыл бұрын
From my understanding, Stannis the Mannis is more likeable in the books. They completely bastardized his character
@thiccpazuzu2573 4 жыл бұрын
@@RealGateGuardian D&D said in an interview how Stannis would be a horrible king. No wonder they killed him the way they did, they hated him! In the show, Stannis gets the news of Renly's death from Davos and just casually acts like nothing happened. In the books, Stannis was in the Stormlands and, well, here is how he reacted: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abBpopRhya68cmg.html
@RealGateGuardian 4 жыл бұрын
@@thiccpazuzu2573 d&d had zero respect for George or fans of fantasy.
@jonny2hotty378 5 жыл бұрын
" Best season Evvvaaaaaahhh " - Daenerys Targaryen
@averyjackblack7420 4 жыл бұрын
😆😂😭☠️
@AkuGMC 4 жыл бұрын
She's joking in that interview :)
@jonny2hotty378 4 жыл бұрын
@@AkuGMC thanks Captain Obvious... I wasn't quite sure
@chaoticneutral7976 4 жыл бұрын
What she said: Best season ever! What she was actually thinking: Please don't hurt my family
@phillyphillylii916 4 жыл бұрын
Aku she was joking in the sense that she wasn’t joking. Lol just like when Kit said the season was disappointing. They were both being serious while exuding sarcasm lol
@tungjen9299 5 жыл бұрын
D&D kind of forgot what made fans love GoT in the first place.
@GrinMonister 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if they really ever knew
@truthof7382 5 жыл бұрын
Or didn’t care
@misterwibble6411 5 жыл бұрын
why dont you try blaming hbo? you know the company that provided the funds and set the numbers of episodes? Thats right - HBO not D&D
@atuljha6128 5 жыл бұрын
@@misterwibble6411 HBO gave D&D 10 seasons with 10 episodes per season, but D&D said they could wrap it up in 7 seasons. Get your facts right.
@matthewmochan3161 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha indeed, much like Dany 'kind of forgot about Euron' eh? What a pair of hacks.
@Nahue91Carp 5 жыл бұрын
You can say it died in "The Bells" but, in my opinion, this death started in episode 7x6 ("Beyond the Wall"). That was the beginning of the downfall for GoT. "Beyond the Wall" is GoT's "The Principal and the Pauper" to me.
@EntertainTheElk 5 жыл бұрын
I can understand that for sure.
@kevinbaker4836 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Nahue91Carp 5 жыл бұрын
@@EntertainTheElk Never before a GoT episode made so little sense. Everything rushed to the point of idiocy but we got a zombie polar bear fight. Is that the same series that had the Red Wedding?
@gothic3theageofwar565 5 жыл бұрын
Jon bending the knee too for no reason to make his country hate him. Such a disgrace in terms of writing
@lrb662003 5 жыл бұрын
Fair point (but I like The Principal & The Pauper)
@bodasactra 4 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe a show that I once enjoyed so much is nothing more than a painful memory of what could have been that I am glad to see fade with time.
@junehatter8479 3 жыл бұрын
I used to rewatch it regularly, and I haven't watched a single episode since the finale
@JR-sx3gl 3 жыл бұрын
@@junehatter8479 Same. And I own 1-7 seasons. There may come time when I will forget what they've done past 4th season and will be able to rewatch 1-4.
@junehatter8479 3 жыл бұрын
@@JR-sx3gl People act like the show suddenly turned bad in season 8, but the seasons leading up to it laid the groundwork for the greater failure
@STikER326 3 жыл бұрын
@@junehatter8479 You have a point, but despite many flaws and dumb sub-plots seasons 5 and 6 have, they are still watchable and have a handful of great moments (Hardhome is the prime example). Season 7 on the other hand... yeah, it's just a rushed mess, but fans probably let it slide because they were hoping the finale will be better... But it wasn't
@junehatter8479 3 жыл бұрын
@@STikER326 If I ever were to rewatch it, I'd just do seasons 1-6
@scottr640 5 жыл бұрын
Its like seasons 1-4 and seasons 5-8 are completely different tv shows. It became just shock value with no logic or development and purely fan service. No source material showed the writers lack of talent
@iamcleaver6854 4 жыл бұрын
I think that the cracks started showing in season 4. They were minor cracks but they were very telling of what was ahead.
@coreydaprince 4 жыл бұрын
Iam Cleaver what cracks were showing in season 4?
@LordSluggo 4 жыл бұрын
@@coreydaprince They'd been guilty since Season 2, but Season 4 was where they really started to throw out Martin's material and started to invent their own characters and plot lines, with the Brienne x Sandor fight being the most egregious fan service to come to mind.
@manvirshergill1739 4 жыл бұрын
@@LordSluggo Geroge R R Martin didnt have a problem with it. S1 is the best and my favourite because its the perfect adaptation of the first book. It captures the spirit, pace, essence and characters really well.
@scottr640 3 жыл бұрын
@1993DJC 100% agree with all points. It became purely fan service
@donjohnson2758 5 жыл бұрын
GOT died when Tyrion suggested to “bring the dead to the living.”
@oliviawilliams6204 5 жыл бұрын
John F when Jaime did not confess to Tyrion about his first wife.
@joewhite22 5 жыл бұрын
Did any character even say "Well that's ridiculous!" or "How on earth are we supposed to do that?" to him suggesting it? I don't think they did.
@davereyez4721 5 жыл бұрын
GOT died with Tywin Lannister.
@stevensahadeo8238 5 жыл бұрын
Olivia Williams yea man I watched a whole video on that. It was very interesting. There's the link kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ba9-i7F8x6-8mWQ.html
@majormononoke8958 5 жыл бұрын
Nop, Game of thrones never died... I just got bad ... and you are the judge when it came... For me personaly Season 7 and 8 are the parts where it got really bad ... But season 6 already had its big problems... For others it may be even season 5 ... IN all this we can see one thing ... the author should have never told them his planes so they could tell their "own" story(after the books were overrun) and/ or the two D should have stop being involved or who ever is responisble for this disaster... I mean come on if they want to attend to other projects or whatever... they should have given it to somebody else... An other Problem is that the actors were getting old ...
@BPond7 5 жыл бұрын
Arya went west, Jon went north, Drogon went east, and the show went south!
@majormononoke8958 5 жыл бұрын
Nop, Game of thrones never died... I just got bad ... and you are the judge when it came... For me personaly Season 7 and 8 are the parts where it got really bad ... But season 6 already had its big problems... For others it may be even season 5 ... IN all this we can see one thing ... the author should have never told them his planes so they could tell their "own" story(after the books were overrun) and/ or the two D should have stop being involved or who ever is responisble for this disaster... I mean come on if they want to attend to other projects or whatever... they should have given it to somebody else... An other Problem is that the actors were getting old ...
@ElumniaWoW 5 жыл бұрын
Pondimus Maximus wow original comment, never seen it dozens of times in every GoT video before great effort!
@BPond7 5 жыл бұрын
Steven Kuijpers Thanks for the compliment! 😀
@BertleMcGertle 5 жыл бұрын
@@BPond7 it's sarcasm. You copied this comment. It's everywhere.
@BertleMcGertle 5 жыл бұрын
@@majormononoke8958 stop
@tonygordon5771 4 жыл бұрын
GoT died when Cersei destroyed the sept of balor. Everything after that was a Game of Thrones rip off. No consequences, no intrigue or subversion. Everything was on the table, out in the open. The world started shrinking as opposed to growing on itself.
@RedBricksTraffic 4 жыл бұрын
For me, it died around the time the Sand Snakes were introduced.
@spencerevans8719 4 жыл бұрын
@@RedBricksTraffic The Dorne fiasco was the beginning of the end for sure.
@jatse511 4 жыл бұрын
GoT died *after Tywin*.
@sammangalick5326 4 жыл бұрын
@@RedBricksTraffic I agree. GoT started bringing in characters like they would change the plot, only for them to die pathetically. The last great villain was Ramsay
@dragonmasterlance123 4 жыл бұрын
Season 6 gets let off a little too easy sometimes imo, and I think thats mostly because of the final two episodes. Prior to those that the season is actually quite boring and there's a very drastic shift in style and tone.
@srclevenger 3 жыл бұрын
Game of Thrones is like when you're telling a story to your friends and halfway through you realize how long it is so you leave out the details and cut to the end and your friends stop listening to you when you talk
@thebacons5943 5 жыл бұрын
For me, the show died in season 7 when it stopped treating its most important character- the land, logic, and lore of Westeros- with the consistency and respect that had grounded the show for its entire run
@speedinggoopman2272 4 жыл бұрын
Season Six had downfalls, but the show most definitely died post Field of Fire. Me and my friends were doing double takes after the following episodes, it was like a different show. I thought the haste was to set up an epic conclusion to the series, but nope, Bran is evil.
@chasm671 4 жыл бұрын
@@katybell9612 D&D have stated that they don't like or understand fantasy and wanted to appeal to people who felt the same. They deliberately cut magic out of the show wherever they could.
@pauldavis5665 5 жыл бұрын
Show gradually got worse and worse as they ran out of George RR Martins material to work with Seasons 1-4 = Great writing. An epic masterpiece. Seasons 5 and 6 = Okay writing. Not horrible, but no where near as good as the first four seasons. Seasons 7 and 8 = Horrible writing. Complete garbage.
@b1bbscraz3y 5 жыл бұрын
seasons 1-4 almost perfect television
@OllieX123 5 жыл бұрын
Remember though GRRM first 3 books are also considered the best. Even if the series matched the quality more with the books they’d still be a drop after series 4.
@pauldavis5665 5 жыл бұрын
@@OllieX123 Yeah, but the criticisms with books 4 and 5 have more to do with how bloated they feel, too many characters and too many side stories going on. It has nothing to do with having bad writing which is the main complaint with the later seasons of the show. The shows writing just started to feel very dumbed down and rushed.
@infantjones 5 жыл бұрын
it really blows my mind seeing people say season 7 was "still great" and call season 6 the best of the series, i get that they looked nice and were generally well shot, well scored, etc. but much like a beautiful house with crumbling foundations, a beautiful show with mediocre to outright bad writing isn't going to stand on its own, and will absolutely fail to stand the test of time season 7 had very similar writing to season 8, casual viewers just weren't as upset because their favorite characters hadn't yet been completely butchered, despite said characters having become one dimensional back in season 6
@Syklonus 5 жыл бұрын
Nah I found season 7 to be very enjoyable, but both 7 and 8 should have had 10 episodes. It's a visual representation that they really were running out of ideas. I'm convinced that they just took the last three episodes of Season 7 and slapped them at the start of Season 8 just to fill it out.
@leetledrummerboy 4 жыл бұрын
The cinematography in episode 3 was epic. Best audiobook ever.
@joshpratt8678 4 жыл бұрын
leetledrummerboy underrated comment
@John-xr9ry 2 жыл бұрын
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie
@RenegadeShepTheSpacer 4 жыл бұрын
I think you're being far too lenient on the lighting issue in episode three. Yes, it is supposed to be dark, but it is not supposed to be unwatchable. Helm's Deep encapsulated the theme of darkness perfectly and not once did I have to adjust my device in order to compensate for over-the-top blackness as I did with The Long Night. It was bad design and it isn't something that deserves a pass because of "themes".
@ryansizemore5064 3 жыл бұрын
Wah, I wanna be able to see. How do you think those men felt knowing that a horde of evil was attacking them in the dark near the north pole. I'm sure it would be even darker in reality. It felt intense. It was.
@DM-Oz 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryansizemore5064 thats dumb
@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 2 жыл бұрын
yeah agreed, bit of overexposition on his thoughts regarding the lightning, i like hearing about the downfall of a show, but didn't really need his opinion about people's watching preferences, lol
@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 2 жыл бұрын
@@One.Zero.One101 lol yeah, like, if they wanted the episode to be slightly dark, for ambiance, that i get, and it can be done right, look at the dark knight trilogy, but this way too dark
@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 2 жыл бұрын
@@DM-Oz lol
@christianschulz1443 5 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest here d&d simply sacreficed our joy and fun on the altar of their own egos.
@KneelB4Bacon 5 жыл бұрын
I think they confused GRR Martin's writing ability with their own. By the end of season 5, they were completely full of themselves and thought they couldn't fail at anything. And then they ran out of source material.
@tobias064 5 жыл бұрын
that phrase sums it up
@nymri8537 5 жыл бұрын
And their wallets.
@kenburns4547 4 жыл бұрын
More like "I'm bored with this series... let's phone in sick, cash our checks and retire!"
@thomasffrench3639 2 жыл бұрын
@@KneelB4Bacon not necessarily. Martin is taking years to write his own books, and these guys had to do it in a few years. It was inevitable that they would drop off. That being said they could have made it longer to develop a better story.
@mirtoppf8960 5 жыл бұрын
I keep pushing my disappointment for this season to the back of my mind. But I keep on watching videos like this and I just feel robbed of an ending that the show deserved.
@OmegaWolf747 4 жыл бұрын
It died because Beniot and Weiss didn't care about it anymore. They admitted as much.
@mith2946 3 жыл бұрын
Even if they did care they couldn't write to save their lives.
@OmegaWolf747 3 жыл бұрын
@@mith2946 True. You could tell when they were winging it instead of adapting the source material.
@scalpingsnake 5 жыл бұрын
So in a nutshell they chose to do less episodes and chose to cut out what they deemed unnecessary; the conversations, not realising that it was the conversations that made the show what it was.... Idiots.
@blaketan7039 3 жыл бұрын
Fewer*
@nikkovalidor4890 5 жыл бұрын
people who say GoT was all about crazy twists rather than coherent and consistent stories should be always dismissed
@UncleBurbon 5 жыл бұрын
nikko validor But it was both with some gray area
@Leo_ofRedKeep 5 жыл бұрын
I wish this were true but one just has to listen to the author's enthusiasm about them to understand they actually are the reason he writes. It is sad, but GRRM is an extremely overrated writer.
@davidstinger1134 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly, D&D are mong those people.
@Wayoutthere 5 жыл бұрын
Most normies, yeah.
@needlestark923 5 жыл бұрын
@@Leo_ofRedKeep If this is his real ending the books will be forgotten.
@debrickashaw9387 5 жыл бұрын
Dan Weiss had written nothing before game of thrones and David Benioff has writing credits for X-men Origins: Wolverine. That is all you need to know
@pauls4075 5 жыл бұрын
De Brickashaw how is that possible they were given this and now a Star Wars trilogy? Suspicious. Who are they related to lol?
@debrickashaw9387 5 жыл бұрын
@@pauls4075 It is possible because they landed a once in a lifetime opportunity when GRRM gave them the rights of ASOIAF. And now they have confused the earlier seasons success with their writing. Hollywood will see them for the talentless hacks that they are when their Star Wars projects is released.
@jesse4238 5 жыл бұрын
De Brickashaw what were their careers before?
@MollyFC 5 жыл бұрын
@@pauls4075 David Benioff's father is a big cat at Goldman Sachs
@fuzzydunlop7928 5 жыл бұрын
@@MollyFC Benioff wrote a novel and a couple collections of short stories. All of which feature self-insert protagonists, including himself as his grandfather in the Siege of Leningrad. He's a bit of a narcissist.
@Mastermax888 4 жыл бұрын
The show died when they butchered the one true king, Stannis Baratheon. Do yourselves a favour and read the books to see the proper story arcs of one too many characters that got butchered on the show.
@JC19171 3 жыл бұрын
I was so shocked in the show when stannis burned his daughter. He wouldn't even flirt with the idea in the books
@deeta000 3 жыл бұрын
Stannis The Mannis.
@davidreynolds7376 3 жыл бұрын
@@JC19171 GRRM has confirmed that the Shireeen scene will happen in Winds of Winter, when it releases sometime in the 2080s
@JC19171 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidreynolds7376 2080? More like 2180
@ARCtrooperblueleader 3 жыл бұрын
@Mastermax888 - Beautifully said.
@xPaynayx 4 жыл бұрын
Well written character arc? Sandor Clegane. No way, his entire arc was thrown under the bus for Cleganebowl.
@war2theren227 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Cleganebowl was the biggest highlight of the season! Sure it kinda ruined his arc, but that fight was great.
@ryansizemore5064 3 жыл бұрын
@@war2theren227 The fans wanted their ending since GRRM wouldn't write us the real one. The things the show had set up made fans eager to theorized and almost demand certain events play out. Its upsetting they didn't bring in more fan suggestions. Lady stark should've been a huge surprise in season 5 or 6 that blew everyone's minds and was just simply omitted, although her death was a tragic well played event in the show and book and I understand wanting to let some people stay dead.
@purplexninjamom 3 жыл бұрын
Sandor f*cking Clegane. I´m absolutely furious that he´s dead.
@soyuzdavillan721 2 жыл бұрын
Cleganebowl was the biggest anticlimax EVER
@tomisaacson2762 2 жыл бұрын
A great character ruined by a forced, disappointing fanservicey ending
@blane2472 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, Jaime's arc was also the most disappointing one to me. It really felt like at the end of episode 4 they suddenly started writing a completely different character. I couldn't even react to his death because by then he felt so foreign to me, I just couldn't picture Jaime being there any more.
@devileanblack 5 жыл бұрын
This. I agree completely.
@josie-tv5ij 5 жыл бұрын
It was Larry under the rubble.
@josie-tv5ij 5 жыл бұрын
It was Larry under the rubble. Felt nothing but disgust that this character was destroyed the way he was. The cheap soap opera ending he got was BS. Also felt nothing when Tyrion was crying when he found his siblings.
@MrGeorgeFlorcus 4 жыл бұрын
I think my subconscious has overwritten the part where Jaime leaves Brienne, to the point where in my mind, as far as I'm concerned, those two got together and lived happily ever after.
@obsessivefangirl5055 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrGeorgeFlorcus is it coincidence that I feel the exact same way? In my head Jaime and Brienne are married and living on the sunny sapphire isles of Tarth (cuz he hated the north) making plenty of beautiful tall golden haired babies.
@matheusg1473 5 жыл бұрын
It was long dead before "the bells", lol.
@hbsblkk3842 4 жыл бұрын
It died in Season 6
@alemarioluiginator 4 жыл бұрын
@@hbsblkk3842 lets say season 7, beyond the wall
@ryanammenheuser4788 4 жыл бұрын
I think the point is that's when it passed the point of no return. It had been on a downward decline for a while but that episode was the nail in the coffin.
@rayberto1826 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say they shifted focus after the red wedding.. after that is was all about shock value and pretty visuals.
@dbleo_ 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The Hound's character arc makes no sense. It throws away his development in seasons 6 and the beginning of season 7 where he decides to move on from revenge and his anger. The whole Cleganebowl was forced
@MintyCanRead 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone's reaction to the subverting of expectations was so positive that D&D thought they needed to do it to the end, but what they didn't understand was that in the first few seasons, people's expectations were the usual cliches, so subverting them was absolutely the right thing to do. By the last few seasons, people's expectations were that actions would have natural consequences, that characters would behave consistently and that time and space in Westeros would be portrayed realistically - these expectations did not need to be subverted.
@GamerSlyRatchet1 5 жыл бұрын
Eh, I thought Sandor Clegane deserved a different ending than what he got. The Cleganebowl was nothing but dumb fanservice.
@janekj4664 3 жыл бұрын
His entire character was based on his hatred for his brother. It wasn't fanservice. It was something that was always going to happen but fans chose to give it a silly name and were always expecting it
@miguelzavaleta1911 3 жыл бұрын
@@janekj4664 Hating his brother was a facet of who he was, not his entire character. And regardless, he was supposed to let go of revenge, to have found peace after living with the settlers.
@coolymanman7 5 жыл бұрын
Jon was so underutilized in The Long Night. He was such a great strategist in the battle against the wildlings on the wall
@jeagerjeager9171 5 жыл бұрын
What about the killing of the main character daenarys?
@CKMLMA8 4 жыл бұрын
He was basically a side character in his own arc
@AsmodeusFire 4 жыл бұрын
The Day game of thrones died is when they KINDA forgot whole plots/character backstories/relationships/personality and intelligence.
@ryansizemore5064 3 жыл бұрын
one of the few criticisms on here that reflect my own. The show needed more time if the seasons had played out like 1-3 and followed the books more closely in terms of telling the story. The books kept growing and the amount they tried to cram in each season became too disjointed and omitted far too much.
@Wolfen443 5 жыл бұрын
The show was collapsing in quality already in seasons 6 and 7. But the ridiculous destruction of everything that came before season 8 was unacceptable for sure.
@FlorasMori 2 жыл бұрын
I know the Arya arc stayed pretty true to the books, but it started dying for me when she went to bravos, just started getting so boring, season 5 was a slog, season 6 was better, then season 7 went down the toilet.
@jonttopia 2 жыл бұрын
Midway through season 5 it started to feel like a completely different show to me, it started to feel less like a medieval, fantasy drama and more like a generic fantasy thriller. It weren't necessarily bad around season 5 and 6, but it just didn't feel like ASOIAF any more.
@uravirginwhocantdrive1400 2 жыл бұрын
I know I even noticed it at the time when first watching season 6 (it also annoyed me how season 5 smashed the most recent two books together instead of a book a season) but I kept telling myself “everything will come full circle in the end”……. Man did I feel like boo boo the fool after the series finale.
@MrLeoMessio 5 жыл бұрын
They ruined the show in the last season. Martin said it needed to be 10 seasons minimum
@Guagex 5 жыл бұрын
Right....and think...D&D only wanted 7
@theatheistbear3117 5 жыл бұрын
Guage12187 x That was D&D. Companies love to continue their shows as long as they get a decent amount of profit from them. GOT earned them millions with each episode. I’d be foolish not to continue it.
@Guagex 5 жыл бұрын
@@theatheistbear3117 Right..but the point to state is the general disintrest to maintain the main series..
@TheZakR 5 жыл бұрын
The Atheist Bear You’d think that but D&D were definitely motivated by greed. Even though they could’ve made a ton of money with GOT, they knew they wanted to end the show early. They knew it would catapult their careers, and were ready to accept the biggest paying deal they could find. And well, it worked, they booked Star Wars. Star Wars means way more money for way less work. Just sad that they had to butcher one of the best TV series of all time in the process.
@frankgesuele6298 5 жыл бұрын
A Golden Crown for each of the show runners.
@Kodiie 5 жыл бұрын
I too appreciate how dark episode 3 season 8 was. That’s why I watched this episode in the dark, with no light, at midnight, in the woods, in a pocket dimension, on a cold alien dwarf planet far from other stars plunging perilously into a black hole. It’s best to set yourself up for success when watching this show.
@fooooooooooooooo 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I get you. Maybe they thought that we wouldn't see that horrendous battle plan and writing.
@peterblood50 5 жыл бұрын
🤣 You too?
@PeacePusher88 5 жыл бұрын
It was realistic
@romancandleofthewild 5 жыл бұрын
People keep saying it was realistic but forget that the Battle at the Wall was lit by fire light and you could see everything that was going on. The fire light looked natural and enhanced the episode. Don't know why they couldn't do that with the battle of winterfell.
@eno2870 5 жыл бұрын
@@PeacePusher88 - There was nothing realistic about that episode. The tactics were absolutely atrocious. I mean, their opening move was to send their light cavalry charging headlong into an overwhelming force in the dead of night, against an enemy that can raise every loss as one of their own.
@shadysheister 4 жыл бұрын
Game of Thrones died when Stannis burned his daughter just to die the very next episode. Change my mind
@AnkitSingh-cd7tw 4 жыл бұрын
No when Cersie became queen
@Thierce 4 жыл бұрын
Stannis' death was so anticlimactic, the battle literally lasts 2 seconds
@haziq12ish 4 жыл бұрын
Season 5 was horrible
@nothorren 4 жыл бұрын
I can't because i agree
@SerbAtheist 3 жыл бұрын
Both the book and show Stannis are irredeemable pompous monsters, entitled beyond measure, yet incompetent to their core. That some people would actually support this sorry excuse of a human being that wilfully submitted to a disgusting cult which burns people alive is an extremely sorry statement for the human race.
@petitio_principii 4 жыл бұрын
Emilia Clarke's inspiration to do the scene was that she thought on how the writers had thrown her character development into garbage. She imagined herself with the power of burning thousands of clones of D&D alive, rather than the innocent people of KL.
@suganthram7767 4 жыл бұрын
May be that anger brought the best of her performance in that moment....
@shalakaj523 3 жыл бұрын
this has more logic than the episode
@calebwinfield1403 5 жыл бұрын
Cleganebowl is terrible. The Hound should have stayed dead in season 4. They could have gone with the gravedigger, where Sandor is living a life of peace.
@TheAkwarium 5 жыл бұрын
also his whole character arc went out the window too, instead of abandoning revenge and seeing that it doesn't get him anywhere - his whole character regressed back to what he was before he ended up on that island. He shouldn't have cared about his dead brother anymore anyway, because like... he's dead already
@newbiechu7024 4 жыл бұрын
Yarp
@user-gw4zg1qm8m 4 жыл бұрын
Hound should've taken the high road and should've left with arya. Him abandoning his vengeance for arya would've been much more better.. In my opinion
@cbrreezzyy69 4 жыл бұрын
J ahhh yes “much more better”
@shitass6963 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought they were leading to him being azor ahai, would've been sick since he's so scared of fire.
@barkasz6066 5 жыл бұрын
Oh no, season seven was already almost complete garbage. The issues started piling in season 5 and 6. Season 7 has absolutely NO business being rated a 9.
@MarcelNL 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. When Tywin died, things started to get very uninteresting. I really didn't care about the sparrows and such. But still it was really enjoyable in general. The real rot started in season 7 and 8 was just the stinking and barely recognisable remains of the show.
@swanee 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, I binged watched it leading up to season 8 and found the change of pacing from 6 to 7 was so jarring that I had to google it thinking I couldn't be the only one.
@bleepbloop101010101 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarcelNL Agree. I lost interest during the incredibly boring sons of harpy, high sparrow and faceless men trifecta. Needed more zombies.
@MarcelNL 5 жыл бұрын
@@bleepbloop101010101 Well that faceless men stuff didn't bother me at all. I really loved it in the books and I enjoyed seeing it. But yeah; the Sparrows, the Sons of the harpy and the Sandsnakes couldn't interest me at all. But with the Sons of the harpy it at least was over relatively quickly.
@Syklonus 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't mind season 7 tbh, but all that training Arya did was never really used to any great effect bar one or two scenes.
@jackgreen5627 4 жыл бұрын
Ed Sheeran's random appearance made Westeros unconvincing.
@phobics9498 4 жыл бұрын
@Val Probably because people looked at him and were like "Wait that is Ed Sheeran bruh"
@KennyMelan 4 жыл бұрын
Val Well, I personally would have found it less distracting if he had been a more important character with depth. We‘ve all seen Sean Bean in other stuff but that didn‘t take us out of the show because he was an actual character. In the case of Ed Sheeran I felt like we were basically seeing Ed Sheeran, the real life person, since he was just...there.
@CollyDoo 4 жыл бұрын
They needed a celeb ginger to round out the extras.
@ryansizemore5064 3 жыл бұрын
It helps if you didn't even realize it was him the first time.
@taterboob 3 жыл бұрын
I like to headcanon the S4 finale as the end of the series. Everyone gets some form of closure. -Tyrion kills Tywin, and escapes to Essos with Varys -Tywin's death effectively cripples the Lannisters -Tommen and Margery go on to become fairly benevolent monarchs -Danerys rules in Slaver's Bay, and works to put an end to slavery -Sansa is safe in the Vale, under the (admittedly questionable) protection of Littlefinger, who is himself being watched by the Lords of the Vale -Jon successfully drives back Mance's forces with Stannis' help, and works to shore up defenses at the Wall while Stannis wages war on the Boltons -Arya departs to Braavos, to eventually become a Faceless Man
@eivom1 5 жыл бұрын
BuT iT wAs FoReShAdOwEd! Criminal to ruin a great show like this.
@ciuby4147 5 жыл бұрын
Very sad, really :(
@Luis87 5 жыл бұрын
@@viracocha It's used to portray dumb people who think they are saying something smart or bold. It goes with the Mocking Spongebob meme
@matthew0dublin 5 жыл бұрын
I just rewatched it all again from season 1. In retrospect it was foreshadowed, a little. But every time it was, dany changed her mind and did the right thing (nearly always)
@anilz4297 5 жыл бұрын
@@matthew0dublin Give me one example where she contemplated slaughtering innocents and changed their mind. Dont say the masters, because they were not innocent.
@Adam-xg1ch 4 жыл бұрын
@@anilz4297 when she talks to the spice king in Qarth in Season 2 about burning whole cities to the ground
@MiguelVicoR 5 жыл бұрын
Best conversation this season was the Tyrion/Cersei/Elmo scene. XD
@Elcrisso1 4 жыл бұрын
The final season reminded me of how I used to play with my action figures when I was younger. I would spend time role playing fun stories for a while but then if I had to go and eat dinner or do something else, I would eventually return to my toys before bed and, to finish the previous story I was playing, would pack away my toys by “killing-off” many of the characters and rushing them to reach their conclusions (uninspired as they may have been at age 8). This season reeks (no pun intended) of putting your toys back into the toy box because the writer’s wanted to go to bed. Such a shame that for a show that prided itself on slow-burning, intricate details over years of storytelling, the writers in charge focussed on undeserved, rushed spectacle based on contradictory, overly simplistic storytelling
@nadinegriffin5252 3 жыл бұрын
Best comment! As you described your toys is exactly GoT. Thank you for your brief explanation that brings closure to wishing the later seasons were handled differently.
@rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 5 жыл бұрын
"The Bells"? Game of Thrones died a long time ago, in season 5. Season 6 was only bearable due to them being able to repurpose unused old scraps of GRRM's original writing from the books. Season 7 and 8 were just awful.
@SomeYouTubeTraveler 3 жыл бұрын
It died when Shireen did.
@tehtapemonkey 5 жыл бұрын
"It's hard to cater to an audience that watches content on such a wide variety of platforms." Except for, you know, every single other show that does it without issue.
@zumogerstubchen2340 4 жыл бұрын
It's like the established media outlets blaming "the internet" for losing customers instead of them pushing an agenda which no one has ever asked for.
@salvtrooper113 4 жыл бұрын
PsychoStuey nah people need to learn to watch their TV/Film on a large tv screen in a dark room.
@just_joe.__1997 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it’s not the creators fault for presenting their show in the way they envisioned it, it’s not a legitimate criticism you are just saying that most shows take less risks with the cinematography
@mcteoful 4 жыл бұрын
@@just_joe.__1997 Creators ARE free to present the show however they like but, when that's the case, the public is free to complain about their choices.
@ryansizemore5064 3 жыл бұрын
He is referring to how color grading and brightness can be affected by the surrounding space. Which is why he shows the phone on a bright background and you notice it seems immensely darker than when it returns to full screen. This show shouldn't be watched on a phone to begin with, but its suggesting that every television has different brightness, contrast, resolution, saturation, tint, gamma etc. Its one of the only things I agreed with that he said other than explaining all the other problems weren't even problems to him. Its more like he is speaking for angry fans that he doesn't completely agree with.
@RonquixoteDIII 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone died in game of thrones even the story itself
@Oblong-Orange 5 жыл бұрын
The only character who matters
@xXMapcoXx 5 жыл бұрын
Dayum
@davemccombs 5 жыл бұрын
Says someone who wouldn't last an hour in a writer's room.
@roydavidson3656 5 жыл бұрын
I have to strongly disagree, I feel that the story ended poetically.
@ceciliaeastwood8947 5 жыл бұрын
Roy Davidson you are one of a very few it seems, but at least you took the trouble to stand up and be counted.
@phonesjuda7318 3 жыл бұрын
The Day Game of Thrones received a fatal wound was when GRRM left (ending s4), it bled throughout s5 to s6, and finally died when the whole plot of s7 was conceived, s8 is a corpse.
@zer0953 5 жыл бұрын
i still laugh hysterically internally or out loud when i hear or see someone defending season 8
@Syklonus 5 жыл бұрын
Such scathing wit! I'm sure it will affect absolutely no-one's lives.
@Moothead2 5 жыл бұрын
Season 7 sentenced the show to death. It left far too much to cover in just 6 episodes. To fix season 8 you'd have to fix season 7 first.
@Ishtamona 5 жыл бұрын
The most frustrating part is we already had a GREAT villain (or two) who'd been set up for a satisfying concluding battle. An entire season dedicated to Daenarys? Sure. From a huge roll in saving all living kind to genocide in 1 1/2 - 2 hrs out of a 72.5 hr show? Honestly I think we just got trolled.
@DaGamingCore 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wouldve rather 9 seasons. Season 8 to deal with the Night King, Season 9 to deal with Cercei. They *could've* set up her snap from this hypothetical version of season 8 too
@josht6633 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there's several plot lines left out from the books that are definitely going to play into Dany's madness in them. If they would've included Young Griff and made Euron the actual epic villain he is then her descent into madness could've started as early as season 5 or 6 and been built up properly.
@legrandliseurtri7495 4 жыл бұрын
@@josht6633 Not madness. Radicalisation.
@josht6633 4 жыл бұрын
@@legrandliseurtri7495 Radicalization does make more sense now that I think of it, that seems a better idea for her character than just the "Targaryen madness" angle.
@rosesongoku6980 4 жыл бұрын
@@DaGamingCore Nah, the Night King should have been the final antagonist. They spent the entire seventh season dealing with Cersei, the show didn't need ANOTHER season of fighting her.
@pzokz 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, and applauding the symbolic snuffing of Dothraki flaming weapons (not torches) seems preposterous to mention outside the context of the utterly insulting stupidity of sending the Dothraki to all die for no point, only to later have the universe "just kind of forget" they were all dead.
@DaGamingCore 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah; that scene was dark and just.. Never brought up again really.
@BanditoBurrito 4 жыл бұрын
Why is season 7 rated so high? Seriously? That was the beginning of the end for sure
@suganthram7767 4 жыл бұрын
Season 7 is flawed but its flaws were excusable and can be brushed off....but the mistakes in season 8 were blasphemy
@chasm671 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, S5 was the beginning of the end. S7 was the end of the beginning... of the end.
@suganthram7767 4 жыл бұрын
@@chasm671 I didn't hate both S5 and S6...its flaws weren't noticeable to me until it was mentioned by someone in reviews or KZfaq videos...and not to mention those seasons had some really cool moments for my favourite character in the show - Daenerys...so I'll give it a pass.....but post season 6 the show didn't feel like game of thrones at all..it felt like a completely different show
@vermarajkr1 3 жыл бұрын
Season 7 was best
@falconeshield 2 жыл бұрын
S5 was the start of the end. B A D P U S S Y
@jaqenhghar7879 5 жыл бұрын
one of the major problems is nearly everything important happens off screen...
@saintless 5 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if GRRM gave them cliffnotes and only the cliffnotes actually got filmed. They clearly needed more input to tell the story and were lost without it. I'll give D&D credit for giving the series life in the first place, but it sort of reminds me of a band that continues to tour after the frontman leaves for a solo project.
@Diamondsrfvr 4 жыл бұрын
@@saintless "It's almost as if GRRM gave them cliffnotes and only the cliffnotes actually got filmed." I so agree!......I have read that they made GRRM give them an outline of the main points of the books that he had not yet written (when they ran out of source material and had to keep filming the show). So then we had THEIR version of the story, but with GRRM's main points crammed in at the end.
@phenomphoenix5835 5 жыл бұрын
Fan theories became more interesting than the actual show. Just imagine
@lemonadelemon1960 4 жыл бұрын
Me and my friends watching the long night: we can’t see anything. D&D: watch in a dark room. Turn all lights off My mom: why is the tv off Me: ......
@onesarcasticboi8760 5 жыл бұрын
Died when Stannis became a power hungry ruthless Monster Basically after the 4TH season
@ryansizemore5064 3 жыл бұрын
Noone ever liked stannis that much and he was always deemed second fiddle to Robert. He can be as awesome and steadfast as he wanted, the people didn't love him. They didn't want him as king.
@florianhufnagl2980 5 жыл бұрын
The other videos of this series often showed a tv show which "died" to factors the showrunners couldn´t have seen coming. But in this case it just hurts so much more because the showrunners wasted a golden opportunity to give an amazing series an amazing ending just simply because they were too lazy.
@Rammstein0963. 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong, it was greed that did it. D&D were tapped by Disney to rap...err, produce a new Star Wars series. These two cocksmokers wanted out of GoT for that alone.
@peterblood50 5 жыл бұрын
Money over legacy. GOT will always be remembered as a job half-done and D&D will be remembered as the duo who sold out the viewing public for the Disney bucks. Star Wars was dead before GOT started and I think I'll walk away from D&D's version of it.
@elliottwatt5297 5 жыл бұрын
It’s my understanding that they always wanted to wrap it up in 7 seasons, but GRRM convinced them to go to 8. My point is I think they were definitely gonna leave regardless of the Disney money, it’s not greed more than it is laziness and that’s worse to me. I can understand greed, I don’t understand laziness
@54tisfaction 5 жыл бұрын
The show died for me in that episode in season 6 when Arya got stabbed in the gut several times and then simply walked it off.
@TheAkwarium 5 жыл бұрын
that's when her plot armor kicked in
@Syklonus 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they could have easily just mildly slashed her across the belly or something. No-one walks away from multiple stabbings.
@theonionsystem7779 4 жыл бұрын
@@Syklonus yeah, or near dead or actually dead
@Torgo1969 4 жыл бұрын
Arya had neither armor nor a big fooking sword.
@arthurmorgan4460 4 жыл бұрын
Arya the 50 cent of that time lol
@TigerHawX 4 жыл бұрын
Game of Thrones started to go downhill after the tv series surppassed the books
@oxnerd 4 жыл бұрын
Go back and watch Cersei's conversations, compilation videos of allllll her talks. THAT is Game of Thrones. That was what made me fall in love with the show. I can't help but blame Disney for this. All shock but no value.
@SAkURAYOWA 5 жыл бұрын
I should be rewatching GoT by now, completely hungover its ending. Instead I’m binging every yt vid about s8. Sigh.
@imextremlyhandsome 5 жыл бұрын
Me too. It's sad that this is the state of the GoT Fandom now.
@tobagosdetrinidad6781 5 жыл бұрын
All the bad writing had brought whole show into mess. I believe they will not make gold in star wars. Has a proof
@martisl9652 5 жыл бұрын
It was like that for me at first.. like season 8 destroyed all 7 previous seasons and everything i thought i knew about the show and the characters. Couldnt go back, and couldnt get passed it. But then i woke up one morning and season 8 had completely disappeared from my consciousness!! Like it never happened at all! What a relief that was! :D Hope you get that lucky too
@tobagosdetrinidad6781 5 жыл бұрын
@@martisl9652 You have same word as mine.
@elizabethannshealthyliving6970 5 жыл бұрын
Same!!! Binging How GoT failed vids is the only meager solace.....
@stevonico 5 жыл бұрын
I would have preferred a "Happily ever after" ending more than a complex ending that is unearned
@Nathan-jh1ho 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen C the strange thing is, besides Dany, nearly everyone got a happily ever after ending. It's just like most of the story happened for no reason, feels empty and depressing. Ex: Jon Snow rose up in the Night's Watch, United the windings, basterd to true hair... ment absolutely nothing, just ended back where he started. Eventhough he's happy with his friends, it's like he's a biggest loser ever.
@MrFunsized13 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say, even though season 7 wasn’t particularly great, I could deal with it. I had fun watching it and it left me excited for season 8. Season 8 straight up killed it though. I wanted the Night King to be the endgame but of course he just couldn’t be.
@hamzamahmood9565 5 жыл бұрын
So Star Wars killed Game of thrones?
@alesksander 4 жыл бұрын
Its funny because we know how Star Wars went under Disney...
@alesksander 4 жыл бұрын
So we could say that LucasFilm killed two cinematic franchises of the millennium. Impressive how much incompetence is in "production" area.
@comelittlelamb 4 жыл бұрын
And then Star Wars killed itself.
@ArmandtheWise 3 жыл бұрын
In a way yes. This is one of the reasons why I have grown a certain resentment towards Star Wars. I still have respect for the original trilogy, but overall I find the entire franchise to be the very definition of overrated. So many instances were other film/tv series had a chance to be special, but were abandoned because "Ooooo Star Wars!". Gareth Edwards left the Godzilla sequel to do Rogue One instead which arguably diminished the quality of King of the Monsters. D&D could have given Game of Thrones additional episodes and produced a far more satisfying ending to the series, but no have to rush off to do Star Wars (which they will ruin even more than Disney already did). Everyone putting Star Wars in this high pedestal sort ruins the chances of other great (or better) fictional stories to shine.
@georgestevens2937 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArmandtheWise u cannot blame directors for chasing their wildest dreams at achieving starwars fandom. Star Wars is one the highest rated piece of fiction in the world. It statistically is bigger than all the projects u just named. So U can’t really blame them for wanting to be in a rush for starwars
@prankishsquire2663 5 жыл бұрын
GOT died for me when Lady Crane turned out to instill plot armor with clever stitches in Arya's fatal abdominal wounds. And then she ran...???
@majormononoke8958 5 жыл бұрын
Nop, Game of thrones never died... I just got bad ... and you are the judge when it came... For me personaly Season 7 and 8 are the parts where it got really bad ... But season 6 already had its big problems... For others it may be even season 5 ... IN all this we can see one thing ... the author should have never told them his planes so they could tell their "own" story(after the books were overrun) and/ or the two D should have stop being involved or who ever is responisble for this disaster... I mean come on if they want to attend to other projects or whatever... they should have given it to somebody else... An other Problem is that the actors were getting old ...
@whitepenny64able 5 жыл бұрын
Milk of the poppy I guess heals all.. except king barathian took it to help sleep and ease pain. Not heal... So idk
@kasim7509 5 жыл бұрын
Mike W milk of the poppy doesn’t heal at all Its just an anesthetic to ease the pain
@Gwildor2020 5 жыл бұрын
And then she did parkour through Bravos and killed her main antagonist from the previous 2 seasons off-screen.
@chloenkitty 5 жыл бұрын
Prankishsquire I just watch that episode again yesterday and there’s no way she would have lived through that. Several stabs in the stomach plus the twisting and turning of the knife and then jumping into the filthy water
@dc8rdecoded 5 жыл бұрын
“Beyond The Wall” was when it died. Suspension of disbelief was gone, and expectations for the show had started to dropped and never truly recovered. When I did a rewatch, it was the one episode I was super frustrated with. I will admit, after “The Bells”, I said I was done with the show. I’d watch the finale, but I was done. But “Beyond The Wall” set things on that path.
@tct8284 4 жыл бұрын
The show started dying for me when Jaime didn't tell Tyrion about Tysha... That's end of Season of 4... AFFC and ADWD were disrespected
@manvirshergill1739 4 жыл бұрын
AFFC and ADWD were about 3 steps down from the first Three Books.
@frocat5163 2 жыл бұрын
@@manvirshergill1739 Absolutely. The truth of the matter is, the story had gotten away from GRRM by the time he started writing _A Dance with Dragons_ (as the fourth book was originally titled), and had to split it into _A Feast for Crows,_ and _A Dance with Dragons._ And, at this point, it's gotten so far away from him, we'll never read the ending at all.
@DavePaddy 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone complaining about Jaimie's arc in these videos (I feel you) but imagine having NK as your favourite and most interesting character of the show and this happens. Absolutely wasted potential.
@althenarb3026 5 жыл бұрын
You say major issues were pacing and character arcs. I agree with that, but I think the most unforgivable issue is the total absence of logic and sense in most of the decisions taken by the characters conveniently leading to the ending the (once before) writers needed . This makes me think they believe: watchers are so dumb they wont see that, so lets do this way, it' easy and fast, then we'll work on SW campaign.
@rickbeniers667 5 жыл бұрын
the major issues with pacing and character arcs created the ` total absence of logic and sense` GRRM said that he estimated that GOT needed about 12 or 13 seasons to complete the story, HBO was prepared to extend GOT to 10 season but the showrunners just said Nope, we are done with this and only wanted 8. this is why GOT feels like a rushed Hollywood movie with nice visuals, because it basically was.
@cuuy 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I can somehow forgive the problems with pacing and character arcs, if I can see the ideas and reasons behind them. But when I watched the the 'council' in the last episode. It really annoyed me. No way the council would look like this, the only reason Sam, Davos and Brienne were there is because they are main characters of the show. No way they would listen to Tyrion like that while he was a prisoner. And while his nomination of Bran was somehow intelectual interesting, no way it could convince anyone of the council. And no way everyone would accept the North being the only kingdom to become independent... yeah and so on. While GRRM will probably write things differently in the books, it's quite possible that Daenerys end up as a mad queen, but no way he would write a council like that.
@Kayla4217 5 жыл бұрын
The day game of thrones died was when Arya was stabbed to death and won anyway lol this should've been so much longer
@Bryan-T 5 жыл бұрын
When Arya was stabbed and lived that was the first time I was disappointed with the show. With that said, season 6 had some great moments so it's hard to say her plot armor killed the show. It wasn't until the "beyond the wall" episode that I lost faith in the show.
@Ms.Byrd68 5 жыл бұрын
The way she was 'stabbed' she should have 'died'... agreed a bit TOO fantastical!
@daveruda 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine that happening in season 1-4. Any character would be dying on the floor after that stabbling. Season 6 was when the show stopped caring about making sense.
@oliviawilliams6204 5 жыл бұрын
Tysha drop was when it died, also Dorne
@samy29987 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was the moment Arya turned into Wolverine and the show turned into Avengers. So disappointing.
@Michael-ru3su 4 жыл бұрын
"why game of thrones sucks now" has become my favorite genre
@ExtremeMedium 4 жыл бұрын
I remember people online complaining about how boring "A Night of Seven Kingdoms" was and how they wished there was more action. Well, they got their wish. I don't think it was worth it.
@martina-dd6vb 4 жыл бұрын
That was the best episode of the whole season in my opinion lol
@chasm671 4 жыл бұрын
@@martina-dd6vb And it was the episode that wasn't written by D&D. Imagine that.
@martina-dd6vb 4 жыл бұрын
@@chasm671 *pretends to be in shock* 😂😂
@davidhurst4883 5 жыл бұрын
It died when the waif killed Arya then was revived with a few sips of milk of the poppy.
@olebramserud59 5 жыл бұрын
For sure, she should have died
@bolg892 5 жыл бұрын
Nolol
@TheSuperQuail 5 жыл бұрын
You know, that actually might be the exact moment when Thrones jumped the shark.
@matthewsawczyn6592 5 жыл бұрын
Also, I thought milk of the poppy was just a pain reliever (like morphine)? And, not an actual cure...?
@guitarherops31 5 жыл бұрын
“bUt arYA iS thE mOst bRutAL aSsasIN”
@csseyhubbard123 5 жыл бұрын
I never thought that you would have to do a day_died video on Game of Thrones...sad. Great video though, completely agree.
@majormononoke8958 5 жыл бұрын
Nop, Game of thrones never died... I just got bad ... and you are the judge when it came... For me personaly Season 7 and 8 are the parts where it got really bad ... But season 6 already had its big problems... For others it may be even season 5 ... IN all this we can see one thing ... the author should have never told them his planes so they could tell their "own" story(after the books were overrun) and/ or the two D should have stop being involved or who ever is responisble for this disaster... I mean come on if they want to attend to other projects or whatever... they should have given it to somebody else... An other Problem is that the actors were getting old ...
@AKRex 5 жыл бұрын
@@majormononoke8958 I especially agree with last part here. HBO offered them full 10 episodes of up to season 9 or even 10, but they just tin canned everything. I hate them for not making a smart choice to give it over to another runner to continue and to resume closer work with GRRM on the story, this should have never been allowed given how big of a cash cow this was. And now it has made a mockery out of itself. I actually feel like a fool recommending it to a few people before season 8 happened, cause I genuinely did not expect it to come out so badly.
@quigglyjohnston6118 5 жыл бұрын
@@majormononoke8958 Did you really just copypasta yourself to show the same opinion to more people... You really want attention that bad?
@majormononoke8958 5 жыл бұрын
@@quigglyjohnston6118 You dont know how badl ;)
@andyappleton3353 5 жыл бұрын
It died with episode one of season 4. Accept it.
@philingrouille7198 3 жыл бұрын
The show made "The Long Night" a literal long night. "The Long Night" needed at least a full two seasons to feel impactful, imo anyway. Personally, the Game of Thrones we got died in season 4; season 5 has some great scenes, concepts, and plot directions, but they were completely shat on in season 6 anyway.
@MightyManotaur22 2 жыл бұрын
"Foreshadowing is not character development" is the best way to frame the criticism of Dany's arc.
@Fangs1978 5 жыл бұрын
The sins of season 7 were not forgivable. It just took the show getting even worse for people to snap out of their denial.
@cristianyampasi4692 5 жыл бұрын
Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
@lennyrose5852 5 жыл бұрын
Season 5 is when the show started to decline in quality, but season 7 is when it died, in my opinion. And I was in denial of that all the way up until S8 Ep 4, if I'm being honest. Now I see how bad S7 and especially 8 actually are. I just thought it could be redeemed
@Bakasama04 5 жыл бұрын
Alot of the people not liking season 8 are dany fans. They would have been perfectly content if she wasn't killed off.
@Fangs1978 5 жыл бұрын
@@lennyrose5852 Hope springs eternal my friend. Welcome back.
@KamikazeChinaman 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bakasama04 You're delusional.
@raymundohernandez505 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a remake where Daenerys attacks king's landing first and then the last episodes be against the night king. Also where everybody gets back their I.Q.´s.
@narlabegins 3 жыл бұрын
The show died in Season 5, when they introduced Dorne just because Indira Varma was Ellaria. At the end of the day, we just had a rushed storyline that lead to nowhere but the death of a minor character, not to mention how poorly edited that combat scene was.
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