The Death of Prigozhin -The crash & its implications for Wagner, Africa, Ukraine & Russia

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Description: Over the course of the war in Ukraine, Yevgeny Viktorovich Prigozhin and Wagner Group became household names around the world. From their fighting at Bakhmut, to their standoffs with the Russian MoD leadership, to the dramatic march on Moscow followed by a public truce, the PMC and its leader often dominated the news.
But on 23 August, Prigozhin's story seems (so far) to have come to a very public end, when a jet carrying him and other Wagner members crashed in Russia with no reported survivors.
What does that mean for the PMC, Russia, Africa & the West? Those are questions I'll ask today.
Patreon:
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Comments & Caveats:
All usual caveats and notes apply - and to those I'd add those I very specifically raise in the video around the quality of the evidence we currently have.
Reading and source notes:
TASS - Business jet crashes in Tver region
tass.com/emergencies/1664307
Utkin's sanctions
www.opensanctions.org/entitie...
Russian Aviation Authority on the manifest:
t.me/favt_ru/1278
TASS - aircraft flight pattern
tass.com/emergencies/1664559
TASS - passengers
tass.com/emergencies/1664395
Putin on Prigozhin's death
www.watoday.com.au/world/euro...
Simon Rynn (published by RUSI) - Where next for Wagner Group in Africa
rusi.org/explore-our-research...
Moscow Times on the crash:
www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/0...
Reporting on Wagner handing over heavy weapons:
www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7...
Poland moving troops to Belarus border
www.nbcnews.com/news/world/po...
Reporting on Wagner presence near Polish Border
www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-3...
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe...
Mark Galeotti article
www.spectator.co.uk/article/p...
Putin orders Wagner fighters to sign pledge of allegiance
www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-2...
Lavrov on Wagner operations in Africa
www.euronews.com/2023/06/26/r...
TASS - Lukashenko says Prigozhin's family confirm that he's dead
tass.com/world/1665595
Prigozhin Africa Video:
www.theguardian.com/world/202...
Reporting on Russian airlines
www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/0...
UK House Foreign Affairs Committee - the Wagner Network
exposed committees.parliament.uk/publ...
TASS - flight recorder
tass.com/society/1665625
Expert reactions published by Atlantic Council
www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...
US reporting on causes
abcnews.go.com/International/...
www.reuters.com/world/europe/...
Western reporting on the crash
www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-2...
www.theguardian.com/world/202...
www.theguardian.com/world/202...
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe...
Prigozhin in Belarus
www.theguardian.com/world/202...
Prigozhin at the Africa summit
www.bbc.com/news/world-africa...
Reporting on Niger coup
www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8...
More video:
t.me/ENews112/15120
Video footage:
t.me/breakingmash/47183
Accompanying commentary:
meduza.io/en/feature/2023/08/...
Timestamps:
00:00 - The Death Of Prigozhin
01:34 - What Am I Talking About?
03:56 - Background
12:58 - What Do We Know?
23:09 - Causes & Responsibility
32:40 - What Does This Mean: Ukraine & NATO
34:24 - What Does This Mean: Africa And Overseas Operations
43:26 - What Does This Mean: Wagner Group
47:24 - What Does This Mean: Russia
52:06 - Winners And Losers?
56:28 - Conclusion
57:15 - Channel Update

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@PerunAU 10 ай бұрын

Sponsored by Private Internet Access, Use the following link to access their promotional offer: www.piavpn.com/Perun I know some of you were waiting for an air-war video this week (and for some of the exciting stuff currently in the video production pipeline) but given the way these events stole the headline, I thought it was better to put the coda on the Wagner mutiny & MoD rivalry story now, and pivot back to the campaigns themselves next week. I had done a lot of preparation for the time when Prigozhin finally ceased to be a factor which did help with this episode - though I hadn't expected the likes of Utkin to be hit at the same time. While it remains hypothetically possible that Prigozhin will surface again (he's done it before) - I think for now the evidence is strongly that this is his end (albeit not the end of the role Russian PMCs play in overseas operations) I wish you all the very best, hope you enjoy the video, and I'll see you all again next week.

@Syndr1 10 ай бұрын

Hi Peun, this little Priggy 🐖 never made it to the Market.

@mr.v3061 10 ай бұрын

On my flight from Spain back home i also had some turbulence, so i can totally relate. I wish Prigozhin a speedy recovery! 🙏

@SourVodka 10 ай бұрын

*Drunken Beat Starts* Song for Perun There once was a plane that got shot to the ground Didn't take long for the crash site to be found It was flying mighty high on Flight tracker before she exploded like a Cracker . She'd not been two weeks since last in the Sky The mechanic even looked at it with his eye The captain called all hands and swore That the next flight will not be a bore. 🎶🎶Soon may the Wagner come To bring us Coups and Vodka and Fun One day, when the tonguing is done They'lll take their leave and go To go reclaim their home ....🎶🎶 Before the plane had hit the ground A Missile made a whirling sound They all fell out with such a fright while Putin watched in pure delight . As news had broken and hit the round Belarus was panicking on the ground Lukashenko tried to interfere and wail But all he could get was Prigozhin's Voicemail. 🎶Soon may the Wagner come To bring us Coups and Vodka and Fun One day, when the tonguing is done They'll take their leave and go To go reclaim their home .......🎶

@rocko7711 10 ай бұрын

🇺🇦🇺🇦

@guderian557 10 ай бұрын

'feet'? It is not the dark ages anymore, use standard units of measurement.

@iliaponomarev1624 10 ай бұрын

My reaction was like "OK, now things are back to somewhat normal". Because Prigozhin being alive for so long was way too weird.

@mursefaneca 10 ай бұрын

Summer is vacation season, even for hitmen.

@DogeickBateman 10 ай бұрын

@@mursefanecaWelcome to Moscow Agent 47.

@chrimony 10 ай бұрын

The weirdest part was being alive while traveling in Russia and reportedly meeting Putin. I thought those early stories of him still being in Russia were dubious. The whole affair is just bizarre.

@iliaponomarev1624 10 ай бұрын

@chrimony yeah, that was the next level of weirdness. I guess they could have had a deal like "I don't touch you for 60 days, you get your affairs in order and leave," and then Prigozhin miscalculated 60 days...

@t84t748748t6 10 ай бұрын

unless hey faked his dead this was gone happen hey should have put down putin not get scared half way

@just_a_turtle_chad 10 ай бұрын

Like a true warrior, he didn't die on the battlefield, he died flying in a private jet drinking champagne.

@ElTigre12024 10 ай бұрын

Well if it’s any consolation at least the champagne wasn’t poisoned.

@emilsohn1671 10 ай бұрын

@@ElTigre12024 Or maybe it was ;-) Why put all your money on one horse?

@krissteel4074 10 ай бұрын

Up there with other champions he'll be toasted in Vatnikhalla

@dx-ek4vr 10 ай бұрын

He stopped being Biology and started being Physics

@jamesmorrow1646 10 ай бұрын

Given that you post “Calling NATO a defensive alliance is like calling Ukraine a democracy” repeatedly on Russian shill sites it appears you’re an attention seeking narcissist Just a turtle.

@GrzegorzBrzeczyszczykiewicz420 9 ай бұрын

The "someone decided to finally send prigozhin the ammunition he long requested" joke absolutely killed me 😂 I love perun's humor

@dwar1072 9 ай бұрын

Special landing operation was also pretty good

@GrzegorzBrzeczyszczykiewicz420 9 ай бұрын

@@dwar1072 I agree, but I gotta say the special *insert word here* operation jokes have been around for a time now. I don't wanna say they are overused, it still made me smirk. But the ammunition one really caught me off guard and was like taylored for this very situation :D

@augustuslunasol10thapostle 9 ай бұрын

@@GrzegorzBrzeczyszczykiewicz420 the joke killed you? Well it killed prigo and utkin to lmao

@GrzegorzBrzeczyszczykiewicz420 9 ай бұрын

@@augustuslunasol10thapostle *laughs in ded*

@OldTownCrab 9 ай бұрын

You could say the Russians finally Denazified their airspace

@michaelhurlbut4830 10 ай бұрын

"I was expecting him to fall out of a window. Him falling out of the sky is not surprising." A classic line!

@otgunz 10 ай бұрын

He fell not out of a window, but in an airplane with windows, it counts in a way.

@stevemontas6107 9 ай бұрын

My favourite was 'Special Landing Operation'.

@user-eq9xs5fz9u 9 ай бұрын

@@otgunzThe Tallest Window Privilege

@martabateman4241 9 ай бұрын

He just fell out of a window a bit higher up than we expected.

@RyanEglitis 9 ай бұрын

Putin: Plane or window, as long as he falls

@roryschussler 10 ай бұрын

Putin's mindset: When you're in a position of weakness, negotiate. After you negotiate, strengthen your position. When you're in a position of strength, break whatever deal you negotiated.

@schmittian1313 10 ай бұрын

Technically, Prigozhin broke the deal, not Putin. There is a decent chance that Prigozhin would be alive had he just stayed in Belarus.

@RipOffProductionsLLC 10 ай бұрын

@schmittian1313 considering how many people were talking about how the resolution of Wagner's... whatever you call that thing they did... made Putin look really weak, I think he was going to do something like this eventually.

@iliaponomarev1624 10 ай бұрын

1. Very reasonable mindset, actually. And it's not like you are supposed to stick to whatever deal you negotiated when the conditions that forced this deal upon you are gone. 2. I would speculate that maybe Prigozhin was given 2 months to get his affairs in order and move to Belarus or Africa. And then it turned out that the last day of subscription is not included.

@mointz 10 ай бұрын

@@iliaponomarev1624 If I was to be in the process of selling you a car, and as soon as you gave me the money I jumped in the car and drove off, you would hardly say "that's a very reasonable mindset"

@iliaponomarev1624 10 ай бұрын

@mointz But, like, when you put a gun to my head and offer me to sell my car to you for $1... I mean, as soon as the gun is off the table, the deal is off.

@guydreamr 10 ай бұрын

The hubris of Wagner flying high over Russian airspace with all of its senior leadership aboard is a veritable living reenactment of the ancient Greek parable of Icarus flying too close to the sun.

@DogeickBateman 10 ай бұрын

SHAIGU

@psmith6512 10 ай бұрын

Looking back in time we can have 20/20 vision.

@12pentaborane 10 ай бұрын

Tbh I think it was Putin having a little bit of dramatic irony considering out of all the oligarchs and fall victims, Prigozhin is the only one who shot down Putin's aircraft.

@davidelliott5843 10 ай бұрын

The stupidity of these streetwise hoodlums is truly shocking. At the very least you’d expect to see a plane shot down with the intended victims escaping until the next time. But, oh no, they gave themselves on a plate. Very strange indeed.

@justderp5713 10 ай бұрын

I dunno man... you think Prigozhin faked his death? I wouldn't put it past him to try something like this. 8 high ranking members of Wagner all on one plane? I think he'll get revenge on Putin in 9 years. A man betrayed by his country, that destroyed his mercenary force and shot down his aircraft. He'll have to rebuild, but maybe Prigozhin will make the legend come back to life.

@mnorth1351 10 ай бұрын

Perun's hunor is on point this episode! "Prigozhin appeared again, this time with pants" "Some of the Wagner fighters wanted to move on to greener pastures, like Africa."

@NIL0S 10 ай бұрын

Times might be grim, but Perun has just the right amount of bleak humour to make me grin with a smile anyway.

@lowtacsjord7481 9 ай бұрын

"Prigorzhin finally got the munition he asked for" was also an excellent case of dark humour!

@jeckjeck3119 9 ай бұрын

@@lowtacsjord7481 ''He finally got his ammo, but with slightly higher velocity'' is also gold.

@MatthewMcCluskey1 9 ай бұрын

"Special landing operation"

@potempkey 9 ай бұрын

@lowtacsjord7481

@mikeharvey9184 9 ай бұрын

When I got my concealed carry permit, one of the first pieces of advice I got was to the effect of "Never draw your pistol unless absolutely necessary and you plan on going through with using it. Otherwise, it may come back to haunt you." Apparently that advice applies to coup d'etats, as well.

@candle_eatist 9 ай бұрын

the advice applies to whenever you use enough force to have people look at you funny after

@AdamMGTF 8 ай бұрын

I mean, more sensible advice would be to move to a country where you can walk around feeling safe without needing a weapon/a country where you haven't tried to overthrow a defacto dictator. 😂

@jb76489 7 ай бұрын

@@AdamMGTFwhat a stupid thing to say lmao

@AdamMGTF 7 ай бұрын

@@jb76489 why

@kriegdeathrider7805 6 ай бұрын

@@AdamMGTFson talking to a therapist in this country is a game of mine sweeper that can easily end in you locked up in a Looney bin I think I'll just keep my paranoid delusions and my Glock thank you very much

@williamstearns7490 10 ай бұрын

Prigozhin’s death served as a cautionary tale for all future mutineers; once you commit to a rebellion, DO NOT STOP.

@macmcleod1188 10 ай бұрын

And do not have living children.

@dasbubba841 10 ай бұрын

If you come at the King, don't miss and don't stop.

@williamstearns7490 10 ай бұрын

@@macmcleod1188 Indeed. Or at least ones within easy reach of your enemy. With all of Prigozhin’s fake IDs, she should have had one and been on a beach in Guam before he started for Rostov-on-Don.

@williamstearns7490 10 ай бұрын

@@dasbubba841 For sure Omar! Kills me that he didn’t plan just a bit better, coordinated with the Russian teams working with the Ukrainians, and pushed until he was in Red Square. Imagine if he was as well received there by the citizens as he was Rostov and if only a fraction of the Russian military forces and leaders arrayed around Moscow were are compliant as those he encountered moving north? Prigozhin is a bastard and a war criminal, but the fact that he publicly stated that the war was based on lies, is continuing based on more lies, and there is a chance in hell that the war will have a good outcome for Russia while Russian soldiers are being slaughtered for no better purpose than the ego’s of those at the top… …a cease fire would have certainly been declared soon after he walked up the Defense Ministry or Kremlin steps, and got on the phone with Putin to discuss the public trial of those “at fault” of deceiving him. Then eventually moving the conversation to the topic of Putin’s comfortable retirement in early 2024, or his state funeral after suddenly succumbing to his long illness in mid 2023.

@notsam498 9 ай бұрын

Yeah I was boggled when the fool did it, but even more so when he stopped.

@armablign 10 ай бұрын

As a South African, I hate seeing other Africans paint the West as destabilizing Africa, meanwhile Russia is the one doing the funding and continuation of the atrocities in Africa. Whether it is Wagner, or funding weapons for both sides. It's frustrating.

@dx-ek4vr 10 ай бұрын

Basically, colonialism is OK when Non-Western nations do it

@TheGuyCalledX 10 ай бұрын

@@dx-ek4vrlet's not equate China with Russia in this regard though. One country pays money and builds infrastructure in exchange for access to natural resources. The other sends paramilitary groups in to prop up dictators and military juntas in edchange for those resources

@ghoststpatrick9955 10 ай бұрын

From the bbc: Since 1990, 78% of the 27 coups in sub-Saharan Africa have taken place in former French colonies. This has led some to question *whether French influence in Africa has a destabilising impact.* Tell me again how the west does not have a destabilising impact in Africa….

@rawpotatofella9654 10 ай бұрын

Russian influence operations are sophisticated and really fool gullible and less educated folk in Africa.

@ElTigre12024 10 ай бұрын

@@dx-ek4vr Yeah. I despise the hypocrisy of the so called “anti-imperialist” crowd.

@shainemaine1268 10 ай бұрын

"Special landing operation" just killed me perun. Laughed uncontrollably for a good 5 minutes

@ApocryphalDude 9 ай бұрын

I'm frankly surprised that Russia managed to bring down a military craft. Usually they have better luck against Dutch civilian craft.

@larsrons7937 9 ай бұрын

I spit my coffee out all over my screen.

@tzarfrogmeister 9 ай бұрын

I laughed so hard that my neighbors called the cops. When they arrived I explained the situation and they had to laugh too. Then all of them and my neighbors clapped and gave me $2000.

@larsrons7937 9 ай бұрын

@@tzarfrogmeister LOL, good story. That reminds me of another time the cops came to a private adress: A late evening from his window the owner witnessed two burglars breaking into his garage. The man 3 times called the cops, stating that the burglary was still ongoing and the burglars could be caught in the act. Each time the cops replied that _"they did not have time to come to his address."_ Frustrated, the man waited 5 minutes, then called again saying: _"You couldn't come, I had to handle it myself. I grapped my rifle. Now the two burglars are dead."_ Within 2 minutes to the scene arrived 6 police cars and a motorcycle with a total of 21 cops, 3 ambulances, a helicopter and a heavily armed SWAT team. They quickly checked the area, arrested the 2 burglars, then confronted the house owner saying: _"You lied to us. The burglars were not dead."_ The house owner responded: _"You lied to me. You said you didn't have time to come here."_

@Johnconno 9 ай бұрын

Ho.Ho.Ho.

@KoffinKat 9 ай бұрын

I can't overstate how much I appreciate Perun's emphasis on the fact that we have very little verifiable information at this point. It's unfortunately kinda rare to see content creators with this kind of integrity. Mad props!

@jeckjeck3119 9 ай бұрын

Perun is what western media should be. Imagine people like Perun in charge of news organizations... no more drama loving media.

@jojolafrite90 9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, media are... Well, it's not good. I'll let it at that. It's bad. So many different problems, how to even point them out where to even start?@@jeckjeck3119

@TheDominionOfElites 10 ай бұрын

“If the train derails or the plane goes down, you don’t want your organisation to be paralysed because half your leadership decided to engage in the kerbal space program school of disacceleration techniques” Savage

@handler007 9 ай бұрын

the death of prigozhin does not deny the fact that your real objective putin is still alive, get it done

9 ай бұрын

Yeah cold he got “the ammunition he was asking for”

@karlscher5170 9 ай бұрын

Lame

@somethinglikethat2176 9 ай бұрын

Lithobraking is always a bold strategy

@Haan22 9 ай бұрын

Perun gets the references every time.

@endo4137 10 ай бұрын

Prigozhin thought he was indispensable. Took a calculated risk, but turned out he was bad at math

@RazorsharpLT 10 ай бұрын

And turned out he was the hot dog boy who just got his position out of loyalty alone After it turned out he wasn't loyal - he literally lost any and all the traits that got him the job in the first place. That's the Siloviki culture of Russia in a nutshell.

@endo4137 10 ай бұрын

@@RazorsharpLT they are all loyal until the doors to power open

@ADobbin1 10 ай бұрын

He took a calculated risk and then chickened out at the last moment. It's like if Julius Ceasar crossed the Rubicon and then decided not to pass the gates of Rome at the last moment. Don't revolt unless you are going to finish the job.

@christopherconard2831 10 ай бұрын

I believe it was Churchill who said "The graveyards are full of indispensable men."

@aslandus 10 ай бұрын

@@ADobbin1 Yeah, the real lesson for Russian officials is that if you turn on Putin, you shouldn't stop until one of you is dead, because negotiations and truces are just going to give Putin time to stage your death

@JustOneAsbesto 9 ай бұрын

The fact that so many high-ranking members of Wagner were on the same plane makes me wonder if they were even alive when they boarded the plane in the first place.

@justinokraski3796 7 ай бұрын

I doubt they were even on the plane

@Nmille98 10 ай бұрын

Wow. I can't believe the pilot had a heart attack, leading to the wing falling off, and Prigozhin deciding to throw himself out of a window. Truly a tragic accident.

@leifvejby8023 10 ай бұрын

Accidents do happen, just look at Trevor Jacobs. His engine stopped, the door sprung open and he was sucked out - fortunately he had a parachute, but more often than not people don't have. And most people too don't have fire extinguisher up their trousers.

@alexandersinger8723 10 ай бұрын

If Perun knew that Pregozhin was going to die, did Perun kill him? He explores how he would do it himself so he clearly considered this course of action. As an Australian civilian, he is the last person anyone would suspect so he could easily get away with it, Furthermore he has the audience and credibility to frame a Russian actor for the murder should too much evidence be revealed. He has the motive, creating interesting content to grow his channel, it all makes sense, Perun killed Pregozhin

@iliaponomarev1624 10 ай бұрын

Considering Perun is a Slavic deity in charge of lightnings and thunderstorms, we cannot really definitively say "no", it falls into "possible" category.

@robertjarman3703 10 ай бұрын

Is it actually illegal for an Australian person to kill Prigozhin? At least if he returned to Emutopia that is.

@BiggestCorvid 10 ай бұрын

If Perun knew he was going to die, and Perun didn't reach out to let him know, then he's at least an accomplice. Not gonna judge him, but I will remember not to mess with Perun.

@Ag3nt0fCha0s 10 ай бұрын

This is definite proof. Now, I wonder who wishes to prosecute…

@Marinealver 10 ай бұрын

He killed the Pilot via Death by Power Point Resulting in the crash

@ExcretumTaurum 10 ай бұрын

Prigozhin had a fall from grace. “Grace” being 28,000 ft

@nerobernardino88 10 ай бұрын

He had a fall from grace but tried to lithobrake himself.

@hippocraticoaf8798 10 ай бұрын

But he finally got his ammo from Shoigu. 😅

@james_chatman 10 ай бұрын

Falling from Angels Twenty-Eight lol.

@Shoelessjoe78 10 ай бұрын

I personally enjoyed the "Special Landing Operation".

@KasumiRINA 10 ай бұрын

Not Grace either. Kristina. He had a fall from Kristina Raspopova, the stewardess.

@TheGbelcher 9 ай бұрын

I’m surprised Putin isn’t seen as weak for having to resort to shooting down a private jet to get Prigozhin. The fact that Putin didn’t feel comfortable arresting him and putting him on trial says a lot.

@maciej5866 9 ай бұрын

I'm surprised that nobody remembers that for years Utkin was presented as a head of Wagner. In fact the entire organisation took name from his military nickname.

@IrishCinnsealach 9 ай бұрын

No the name wagner was given by Utkin because he is a well known third reich obsessive and Hitlers favourite composer was Wagner Is call sign was Wagner not his nickname

@korstmahler 9 ай бұрын

@@IrishCinnsealach By "Military Nickname", I think he meant Callsign.

@sam8404 9 ай бұрын

@@korstmahleryeah that's really semantics.

@Dap1ssmonk 8 ай бұрын

@@IrishCinnsealach well agchkually.

@Morgaen_Rei 10 ай бұрын

Think Gluhovskiy summed it up perfectly - " It's a common knowledge that since the death of general Lebed, a person aiming for president's seat in Russia should avoid using aviation transport."

@E5rael 10 ай бұрын

Or sticking around windows.

@ladela7348 10 ай бұрын

@@E5rael Or drinking tea with somebody they don't know

@robertsneddon731 10 ай бұрын

Armoured trains, just the ticket.

@michaelpalmer4387 10 ай бұрын

Probably best not to run for Russian President if you have any chance of actually winning.

@matthewbarber4505 10 ай бұрын

Russian automobiles also have a tendency towards rapid unintentional disassembies...

@ephremcortvrint2376 10 ай бұрын

Saw this comment about the crash: “Shoigu finally delivered the ammunition prigozhin was demanding”

@goldflame3390 10 ай бұрын

Something tells me you posted this before watching the video

@AzureAlliance31 10 ай бұрын

Russian air defense managed to hit its s target for once.

@RipOffProductionsLLC 10 ай бұрын

"Shoigu, where the fuck is the ammo!" Is easily the best meme to come out of the war, it sums up Russian logistical issues so well.

@tonyduncan9852 10 ай бұрын

lol

@ephremcortvrint2376 10 ай бұрын

@@goldflame3390 yep

@michaelmckeever2734 10 ай бұрын

It's important to note when Prigozhin was, and was not wearing pants. Not many people talk about this. Thank you.

@veronicamaine3813 9 ай бұрын

I have always been dismayed by the lack of pant status reporting in mainstream media.

@beefers96 9 ай бұрын

I always love your videos... a few points that I was thinking of through this... 1) While the loss of Prigozhin and his money will hurt the Wagner Group, the death of Uktin - *the* Wagner - as he referred to himself in a video, is a bigger blow to them. If Prigozhin was the face, Utkin was the heart. 2) While almost nothing in the way the war is being fought makes sense, it wouldn't make sense to fold Wagner into another PMC. Like them or not, they are a brand. They've got musicians writing songs for them, the have people from all over the world posting pictures with their patches and flags, that said if they're just going to be sitting in Belarus for twenty years I guess recruiting isn't a high priority. 3) Assuming Ukraine wins the war, they should put up a statue for Shoigu. He's done more to assure Ukrainian victory that most.

@rosemaryspiota9836 9 ай бұрын

) "Assuming Ukraine wins the war," Russia still lives next door full of power and weapons PLUS right on its side!!!!!!

@TheDennys21 9 ай бұрын

@@rosemaryspiota9836 Russia is a joke at this point.

@stinkytoy 8 ай бұрын

@@rosemaryspiota9836"right"?

@dakka123 10 ай бұрын

The man was a monster, but I will sure miss his unhinged rants at the Russian MoD.

@Lithuanian_NAFO_lad 10 ай бұрын

SHOIGU! GERASIMOV! WHERE IS THE FUCKING AMMO? Now we know where

@jeckjeck3119 10 ай бұрын

@@Lithuanian_NAFO_lad ''It's on the way, 2 months late, but it's on the way; you will receive it any minute now;)''

@peacepeople9895 10 ай бұрын

@@jeckjeck3119 "at slightly more velocity than you were expecting". That's a great line Perun slipped in there

@jeckjeck3119 10 ай бұрын

@@peacepeople9895 Jokes like that are one of the many great things about Perun.

@KasumiRINA 10 ай бұрын

The loss to meme stock was substational! Navalny, Girkin, Surovikin arrested, Stremousov Sonny Corleone'd, and now even Biber is dead. Only things we have to laugh are Sosaldo, Dolik and Chmonya,

@thergonomic 10 ай бұрын

As the saying goes: "When you come at the king, you best not miss."

@ridwanomar5351 10 ай бұрын

One of the greatest quotes of the wire.

@Marinealver 10 ай бұрын

The way they written him off was really telling on how life is sometimes. No climatic showdown between two "champions" in a duel to the death, no grand final last stand. Just a brief incident that happened to result in the end of life.

@just_a_turtle_chad 10 ай бұрын

Ukraine can't even take Robotyne 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@chriscasperson5927 10 ай бұрын

"In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die."

@petergraphix6740 10 ай бұрын

"If you take a swing at the king and miss, expect to wake up dead in a puddle of piss"

@TalkernateHistory 10 ай бұрын

Thrilled to see you're an Air Crash Investigations fan. One of the best tv shows ever

@Edax_Royeaux 9 ай бұрын

Show has gotten kind of dull lately, but hopefully a priggy episode will spice things up next season.

@myunpopularyoutubechannel 9 ай бұрын

A surprise to see you here to be sure, but a welcome one

@ABadRash 10 ай бұрын

The qwips in this episode are all fantastic, but special landing operation has to be a Hall of Fame moment

@Neooowin 9 ай бұрын

Actually, i found this "special anything" too close to surprise, and heard it already from different sources regarding the Plane incident so... nah, no hall of fame, sry x) But since Perun got so many WAYS better phrases in that video, that really made me smile... it shall be forgiven - and it was fitting too well to be left out anyways, i guess xD ✌🏻

@jeckjeck3119 9 ай бұрын

@@Neooowin ''Prigozin finally got his weapons, but at higher velocity than he wanted.''

@Elenrai 9 ай бұрын

I feel kinda bad for the pilot, such a shit day at work :(

@jeckjeck3119 9 ай бұрын

@@Elenrai He was literally working for war criminal nazis:/

@TonyM540 10 ай бұрын

The gravity of Prighozin’s situation finally hit him.

@JB-pu8ik 10 ай бұрын

Oh... that was a groaner 😂

@sandwich5344 10 ай бұрын

I wish i could come up with a pun to add to this, but you stole the spotlight and now i can't read what my script said

@nerd1000ify 9 ай бұрын

Well they do say that pride cometh before the fall.

@agni_oh 9 ай бұрын

@@nerd1000ifyin this case pride came before the surface to air missile

@timh6845 9 ай бұрын

It went down really badly…

@MarcRavingMad 10 ай бұрын

"It was a period of time that had the world looking on with sort of rapt confusion." A perfect example of the brilliant phrasing that keeps us all coming back every week.

@kimmoj2570 9 ай бұрын

As cruel criminal Prigozhin was, he at last night before his rampage on Moscow told us the truth on his late night sofa talk. He said bluntly that Russia has non what so ever valid reason attacking Ukraine. May that be his positive heritage in life.

@anonymoussoap8310 10 ай бұрын

Fucking hell Perun, I know you like to be prepared and all but I wasn't expecting "I've been waiting for this person to die, so I could use this prepared material" I'm both scared and very impressed.

@PapaOscarNovember 10 ай бұрын

So passes Yevgeny the Bald, attainted Duke of Wagner, Earl of Africa, Lord of Rostov, Conqueror of Bakhmut, Cupbearer to the Tsar, a Knighted Member of the Inner Circle of Oligarchs of the Russian Federation, a man who would be the next Tsar. Long Live the Duke! /s

@jeckjeck3119 10 ай бұрын

May the holy vodka be with him.

@cluelessdev3851 10 ай бұрын

I spat my drink, this was genous thanks for the laugh mate

@jeckjeck3119 10 ай бұрын

The tsar that never was!

@briansass4865 10 ай бұрын

He reached for glory and caught ordnance

@Ryan-uk6zq 10 ай бұрын

He also resembled a nutsack

@brag0001 10 ай бұрын

That's unexpectedly fast ... I didn't expect Perun to cover the death of Prigoshin this early after it happened. It really shows that Perun expected it to happen and probably had most of the video ready already in case it did ...

@sashabraus9422 10 ай бұрын

I think he actually did have a good amount of a video pre-made for this occasion, according to his community post.

@liasprings6502 10 ай бұрын

"Now considering I had been waiting for Prigozhin to fall out the proverbial window for some time now, I've already got a pretty good plan on how to discuss the recent developments." He really did just pre-produce (or at least pre-plan) this video and was just waiting for him to croak.

@ashkuigp 10 ай бұрын

@@liasprings6502anyone employing Perun needs to step the fuck up. Dude deserves a raise. Too bad for us thou. He would probably do important NDA shit for rest of his career.

@PBMS123 10 ай бұрын

@@liasprings6502 Lol, I gotta wonder if these comments were made before watching the video.

@obsidianjane4413 10 ай бұрын

@@PBMS123 Seems most are. lol.

@BM-jy6cb 10 ай бұрын

Prighozin's plane simply encountered a rapid unscheduled disassembly.

@vivienclogger 10 ай бұрын

About 8 years ago I had a long conversation with an engineer who had just finished a long contract that oversaw aeroplane maintenance in Siberia. He said the training and quality of aeroplane maintenance engineers was truly shocking and advised never to take internal flights in Russia. (as though I might have been tempted, after his conversation). I also heard from someone who worked at an airport that, under EASA regulations, Russian operators are not allowed into European Union airspace for similar reasons - though tbf, bans on other carriers from across the world also exist.

@hoodoo2001 9 ай бұрын

Irrelevant in this case.

@concinnus 9 ай бұрын

To expand on what hoodoo said, no amount of missed maintenance will make a wing fall off at the root on a plane this new.

@killswitch8493 9 ай бұрын

@@concinnus not in level flight, but if they lost elevator control and and dived repeatedly into sharp pull-ups (perun quoted a source which statet exactly that in the beginning of the video), they could have overloaded the wings which could have resulted in rapid structural failure. commercial planes are no stukas, you will rip off wings if you do that.

@bluemarlin8138 9 ай бұрын

True, but one would think Prigozhin had plenty of money to make sure he had a competent pilot and maintenance crew for his personal airplane. Ruzzian leaders and oligarchs may not care about the safety of their subjects, but they certainly care about the safety of themselves.

@bluemarlin8138 9 ай бұрын

@@killswitch8493That doesn’t explain why it was on fire.

@karlr750 10 ай бұрын

Regarding Perun's business continuity commentary, this somewhat resembles the 1981 Soviet Pushkin Tu-104 crash (while departing St. Petersburg), which killed 16 admirals and generals, and effectively decapitated the Soviet's Pacific Fleet.

@WilliamDeVey 10 ай бұрын

I thought exactly the same. Of course, even then, the first thought of everyone was that it was an assassination, only later did it transpire that it was the old Russian duo of Arrogance and Incompetance.

@trulyinfamous 10 ай бұрын

@@somescottishguy1314wasn't a helicopter crash on a foggy day what killed a famous basketball player and some of his family a year or so ago? I would never ride in a helicopter in anything short of perfect conditions. They are still death traps even on a good day.

@marsultor6131 10 ай бұрын

Or the crash of 2010 near Smolensk where half of the government of Poland and part of the military leadership died.

@KasumiRINA 10 ай бұрын

@@trulyinfamous Kobe Bryant, the LA Lakers legend. The relatively shorter (2 meter tall) guy to Shaq the giant. Kobe's daughter was also killed, and a few coaches, one with family too... about 20 years ago a plane with R&B singer Aaliyah crashed, but that was over the weight limit on takeoff and pilot with false license on coke. Another memorable celebrity crash is Randy Rhoads, Ozzy's legendary guitar player. Pilot decided to "buzz" their tour bus and on third try he managed to hit it, lose control, and what was left of them hit a building nearby. In... all?.. cases of these famous crashes pilots were to blame.

@p_serdiuk 10 ай бұрын

@@marsultor6131 yeah that one has a looot of evidence suggesting intent

@evilwelshman 10 ай бұрын

Not sure if it was mentioned here but I think it is worth taking a moment to pay respects to the crew who also died in the crash despite seemingly having played no part in the Wagner uprising, and whose fates often get glossed over by the media amidst their coverage and focus on Prigozhin and the other passengers - *_Aleksei Levshin (pilot), Rustam Karimov (co-pilot) and Kristina Raspopova (flight attendant)._*

@RT-qd8yl 10 ай бұрын

As a private pilot myself, this is what I was thinking about. Some poor bastards were probably so excited to get out of regional flights and start doing VIP flights. They probably didn't even know who they were going to be flying, just excited that it would be a big name. 🙁

@chuckycharliepeeper-oni9392 10 ай бұрын

It does get pretty difficult to think about the ostensibly innocent people who had to serve the people we hate. They were just doing a job. I don't think they were fully aligned with Wagner. Just paid to ferry them off someplace, treating them like regular rich folks. Doesn't matter who pays them; they got mouths to feed. Wrong place, wrong people. Still, with my sympathies for the crew of the aircraft (and in some sense the aircraft itself), I have practically none for their passengers.

@Melody_Raventress 10 ай бұрын

Thank you, mate. So many forget that ordinary people suffer in these "Little Power Plays".

@jimb9063 10 ай бұрын

Well said. Too often people caught up in the collateral damage only get mentioned to further a political point. I remember a Chechen being interviewed during the conflict there a few decades ago. A rogue artillery shell had hit his street, killing around 20 members of his family. He said that he didn't know who had started the war, he only knew that it wasn't him. How many millions have felt that down the years, as they've found themselves caught up in events they have no control over?

@dana_____ 10 ай бұрын

@@RT-qd8yl⁠ you mean fly for corrupt rich people that stole from them and their Russian relatives? Nah, may as well not even mention the crew, more respectful that way. I would have more respect for those flying regional flights.

@tonypike8774 10 ай бұрын

Congrats Perun. You took your sarcasm to new heights with this one. Fantastic work as usual and an insightful presentation of the facts and speculation surrounding the decapitation of the head of the Wagner snake. 👍

@davidwolf9663 9 ай бұрын

If I were the flight crew and I saw the passenger manifest I’d politely decline to provide my services. I know there has been a lot of loss of life in this unjustified war. I wonder if we can add the flight crew to the long list of relatively innocent bystanders.

@sam8404 9 ай бұрын

I get the feeling politely declining is rarely an option in Russia.

@TheDennys21 9 ай бұрын

Pretty sure the flight crew was also Wagner.

@Kratos-eg7ez 9 ай бұрын

@@TheDennys21 do you have a source? Be pretty shitty to treat them as Wagner if we really don't know. Im assuming the crew was hired by Wagner if they're flying private but that doesn't mean they're part of Wagner or are doing anything in the wars. There's 7 passengers who we know for sure are Wagner and 3 crew members who died who we know nothing about atleast perun didn't. So theres nothing in here that says they're Wagner, so the 2 commercial pilots and a single flight attendant probably arent.

@seanheaney8303 4 ай бұрын

@@Kratos-eg7ezconsider it is a private jet, people who owe private jets generally pay and handpick their staff personally. So it is highly likely they weren't Wagner but were probably employees Pryzyn.... they had probably flew in this manor dozens of times if not 100s.

@casbot71 10 ай бұрын

Prigozhin should have flown on commercial aircraft while near Russia's sphere of military influence. But imagine how nervous other passengers would be to discover that they were on the same flight as an enemy of Putin.

@BearMeOut 10 ай бұрын

Oh no the plane containing 50 civilian mysteriously disappeared - Putin

@imgvillasrc1608 10 ай бұрын

@@BearMeOut Putin and RT would probably say that Prigozhin and Wagner hijacked a commercial airliner and killed the civilians.

@chuckycharliepeeper-oni9392 10 ай бұрын

@@imgvillasrc1608 Or that Ukraine shot it down with a long range munition, and that Prigozhin wasn't even on board.

@vorynrosethorn903 10 ай бұрын

Some random mental case would have assassinated him in the airport lobby, that is an old favourite of the CIA.

@jimmys1558 10 ай бұрын

lets not pretend russians have problem shooting down a airliner full of civilians...

@giovanniprovost 10 ай бұрын

Perun never disappoints. I know more about this situation due to your channel than a lifetime of US MSM could offer me.

@debbest8546 10 ай бұрын

too true, been watching P since his first vid.

@afa78djd 10 ай бұрын

You really shouldn't expect main news outlets to give you "in-depth" analysis commentary like this. Thank goodness we live in the age of the Internet where independent individuals can all chime in and expand on the world's events.

@alexanderg1935 10 ай бұрын

The US outlets haven't been too bad with the Prigozhin stuff. It's just been a bit condensed. Time constraints and short attention spans I suppose.

@FPVQuadModz 10 ай бұрын

I dont know where Perun comes off being so humorous, but for as honest an observer he is, his timing and delivery is impeccable. My only gripe is using the very often cited 'if you come at the king' speak. Honestly, I am very interested in being on the leading edge of geopolitics and world news, and Perun"s commentary and observations are I believe the most unimpeachable. He clearly has a knack for digesting news stories, and weeding through the bs to deliver well thought out takes and thoughts on the days events. Please keep up the good and entertaining work.

@raztaz826 9 ай бұрын

Probably created a goldmine for alternate history and Tom Clancy fiction writers for years to come. "Prigozhin's Revenge" "Wagner Resurgence"

@DevoxGaming 9 ай бұрын

If only Clancy was still alive to see this shit.

@sugandesenuds6663 5 ай бұрын

@@DevoxGaminghe‘d get soooooo hard

@wulf2121 10 ай бұрын

21:45 regarding the reasons why so many Wagner leaders have been on a single flight - one alleged expert on German public TV concluded that this organisation might have been somewhat Mafia-like and that Prigozhin might not have entirely trusted his subordinates, wrongly believing that keeping them close (so they could not conspire against him) might keep him safe. In other words, sometimes dumb stuff like this just happens because of someone being dumb without an elaborate conspiracy behind it. Someone might have seen this list and taken the opportunity (with or without Putins explicit order).

@SpringIsBACK 10 ай бұрын

That contradicts Prigozhin's own words to Lukashenko, which basically add up to Priggy no longer giving a "Flying F" as some in the USA would put it, about his own safety.

@lamwen03 9 ай бұрын

Well, it might keep him safe from them. But not any other power group in Russia.

@nobodynoone2500 9 ай бұрын

Keeping your enemies close is not always a mistake. Might have kept him alive this long.

@jaxvoice718 9 ай бұрын

That seems unlikely given that at least Utkin had significant autonomy. However, going by the idiot theory, the only Wagner who would be in the position to put the whole top leadership in one small plane, and expect that to be followed, was Prigozhin.

@Vesperitis 9 ай бұрын

In other words, never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.

@TheMaristBoy 10 ай бұрын

You know, there's been a bit of doom and gloom about Ukraine's painfully slow progress in their counter offensive. But can we all just take a step back and look at the former global superpower now tearing itself internally after, what? More than a year of a three-day special military operation? i hope no one has forgotten that.

@fregaropa 10 ай бұрын

The logic displayed by the Pro-RU side on this matter always baffled me. Since the start of the war the only narratives that stated it was going to be a walk in the park were peddled by Russia. With this in mind i find it hard to understand how they don't realise every waking moment Russia has yet to accomplish their strategic goals beyond flattening cities is a colossal embarrassment. Never mind the fact that they're in a remarkably worse off position economically and politically than before the SMO.

@attilamarics3374 10 ай бұрын

killing Prigozhin isnt really a big intrnal struggle. Evne his march was supported by noone. Not even mos tof Wagner. What you wrote is just a cope because you dont want to face the unsucceesful ukrainian offensive.

@trulyinfamous 10 ай бұрын

@@attilamarics3374bot

@npc2153 9 ай бұрын

Didn't wagner march on russia because wagner got VERY bad info on attacking a certain target. 500 wagner troops tried to attack a placed controlled by 48 American spec op agents. Wagner lost most their troops. Blamed the bad intel and marched.

@TheMaristBoy 9 ай бұрын

@@attilamarics3374Killing the leaders of a core component of Russian foreign policy isn't a big struggle? Sure

@humanbeing9079 10 ай бұрын

A side note on the Russian military absorbing Wagner fighters to stop them from rebelling: In the Russian revolutions during WW1, it is exactly by forcefully sending political dissidents to the front lines that they found a larger crowd(soldiers in the trenches) to disseminate their revolutionary ideas to.

@canadiangemstones7636 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, but that was before Stalin killed every orc that had more than 3 brain cells.

@BoraHorzaGobuchul 9 ай бұрын

Otoh, Wagner personnel that agreed to the integration reportedly started they were harassed and sent to the front lines more than the ordinary military personnel.

@NewGuyGamesTraveler 9 ай бұрын

Yes, but those are mercenaries who are not known exactly for being too politicaly inclined.

@jbarbeau92 9 ай бұрын

@@NewGuyGamesTraveler to be fair, Wagner isn’t exactly like other mercenary groups as far as I’m aware. It was also a useful way to deploy troops on a semi-deniable basis, going around any legal hurdles by not officially being part of the Russian military. Which also makes it attractive to the most hardcore of Russian nationalists looking for a way to support Russian interests around the world, and a good place for the Russian military to send special forces types so they can work overseas. So people who will have strong opinions on how the war is going. The people they recruited out of prison will almost certainly just want to stay alive and get the hell out though.

@Ttavoc 9 ай бұрын

Prigozhin holds the record for falling out of the highest window in the world

@combatking0 10 ай бұрын

The punishment for disobedience is death. The reward for obedience is also death.

@DogeickBateman 10 ай бұрын

Girkin moment (in jail but still)

@sandwich5344 10 ай бұрын

@@DogeickBateman if history is anything to go by- they'll die there too, or not - then do something, and end up in jail + death again

@olliegoria 10 ай бұрын

Then Russia wonders how it has so much land per person

@u2beuser714 9 ай бұрын

@@olliegoria What do you mean by this?

@jeckjeck3119 10 ай бұрын

When Prigozhin's death happened, my first thoughts were: ''Perun will chew all these news for me in presentations for me to understand it better!'' *And I was right!* Thank you!!

@Zevonfan524 9 ай бұрын

I cannot believe that man got on a plane anywhere near Russia

@DonNoddingPolitely 9 ай бұрын

As always, I really appreciate your lucid, insightful and humorous take on a topic. Relatively deep, balanced dives on *any* topic these days is disturbingly rare. Keep up the great work.

@alexw181 10 ай бұрын

Honestly the biggest shock to me about this is how long Prigozhin somehow survived after the mutiny, especially given he was getting on private jets and stuff. I'd have to think that to kill him Putin would have to send a platoon deep into rural Belarus Apocalypse Now style

@somethinglikethat2176 9 ай бұрын

I'm surprised they didn't just bomb the convoy into dust at the time.

@adfaklsdjf 9 ай бұрын

@@somethinglikethat2176 I think everyone was surprised by that and it's probably the biggest embarrassment of the whole ordeal. I think it speaks to how overstretched the Russian military is at this point. I don't think they made a strategic decision to allow the convoy to almost reach Moscow and shoot down multiple aircraft along the way.

@dgthe3 9 ай бұрын

@@somethinglikethat2176 I'm not. Russian aviation is garbage & the bulk of their air-to-ground assets are in Ukraine right now anyway. I guess they could have carpet bombed them with Tupelev's or something, but I bet they'd struggle to actually hit a moving convoy.

@jeckjeck3119 9 ай бұрын

@@dgthe3 Russian air forces always struggle to hit anything that is not a hospital, school or a church. Or any other kind of civilian building.

@legoeasycompany 9 ай бұрын

@@jeckjeck3119 Hey, they have a lot of experience shooting down civilian aircraft why thank you.

@casbot71 10 ай бұрын

It's just annoying as I only recently learnt to spell Prigozhin's name without having to double check.

@Melody_Raventress 10 ай бұрын

I just added it to my spell check two weeks ago, damn it.

@b.v.skijump432 10 ай бұрын

Well. That sucks. My highest condolences to you all.

@casbot71 10 ай бұрын

@@b.v.skijump432 Thank you, it means a lot. Particularly with my being slightly dislexic.

@b.v.skijump432 10 ай бұрын

@@casbot71 oohh nnnoooooooo. Yeah. You need my condolence.

@jeckjeck3119 10 ай бұрын

@@casbot71 Should have just call him Prigo:/

@RyanEglitis 9 ай бұрын

One thing I think you missed was that the body was supposedly shown to some Wagner troops, and they positively identified it. Another interesing development is the paving over of Wagner cemeteries created by Prigozhin after Bakhmut, which also points to Putin likely trying to cut off any future lionization/martyrdom.

@IMALEFTYful 9 ай бұрын

That 'cemetery paved over' story was literal fake news. There's an article in Russian explaining that the wooden crosses are being replaced by the permanent stone pyramids.

@chipishor 9 ай бұрын

Yup, I've also seen a video of a cemetery filled with dead Wagner troops being erased from the face of the Earth. It wouldn't come as a surprise if in a year time the propagandists would start denying the very ever existence of Wagner 😅

@elektrotehnik94 9 ай бұрын

"Supposedly", without a source, on this topic, is like "it came to me in a dream". ^^ Gotta do better than that, around these woods. No offence meant.

@RyanEglitis 9 ай бұрын

@@elektrotehnik94 The source is a telegram channel in a language I cannot read, as is most of the news coming out relatinig to this. Which is why I qualified it with "supposedly." The paving over graves has been covered in two separate videos (that I've seen), ofc.

@danielleannet8024 9 ай бұрын

@@RyanEglitisIt sucks but I use Google lens to translate telegram in those situations, Can you post the link?

@Captainkebbles1392 9 ай бұрын

To quote another more clever man than me , "footage of Prigozhin's fall from grace"

@Crusader-tu9gb 10 ай бұрын

Rip Pringle, you will not be missed.

@chuckycharliepeeper-oni9392 10 ай бұрын

This Pierogi is now where he belongs; burnt and in the dirt.

@JinKee 10 ай бұрын

KZfaq autocaptions sometimes called him "Guineapig Ocean"

@The_Mad_Pheasant 10 ай бұрын

"Rest in piss, you won't be missed"

@Versatilty 10 ай бұрын

Prigo set the record for highest window anyone has accidentally fallen out of in Russia

@larsrons7937 9 ай бұрын

How to die in the Pootin apparatus: No level = strong tea, swimming pool, car bomb Low level = fall down stairs, window 3rd floor mid level = window 6th floor (hospital optional) high level = window, 9th, 10th floor top level = plane crash Pootin himself = moon rocket? (time will tell)

@jeckjeck3119 9 ай бұрын

@@larsrons7937 ''I am going to the only place that has not been corrupted by democracy and human rights... THE SPACE~'' - Putler, probably.

@larsrons7937 9 ай бұрын

@@jeckjeck3119 LOL, Putler is certainly aiming high 🤣 The Moon might soon be too crowded for him. Best option might be a asteroid? 🚀🪨

@jeckjeck3119 9 ай бұрын

@@larsrons7937 The sun;)

@larsrons7937 9 ай бұрын

@@jeckjeck3119 the sun, good choise. Hot as hell.

@aguynamedscott11 9 ай бұрын

Prigozhin should have been listening when Mike Ermentraut said, “no half measures!”

@dodgeplow 9 ай бұрын

The only part that upsets me about cases like this is the poor air crew were just doing a job. It would be like shooting the Uber driver because your gang rival was in the back.

@thegrimharvest 9 ай бұрын

If it takes a hand grenade to swat a fly, and all you care about is swatting the fly...I guess at least you're guaranteed to get the fly, everything else is just incidental and unavoidable collateral damage.

@dodgeplow 9 ай бұрын

@@thegrimharvestunderstood, if I were an evil dictator this would be an easy approach

@ecthelion83 10 ай бұрын

The description of the aircraft's erratic flight pattern before the crash reminds me of the stuff you see in action films where a fight takes place on an airplane or helicopter.

@humblescribe8522 10 ай бұрын

Or maybe where you've seen a fighter or a missile trail and you're trying to do evasive manoeuvres.

@jfarrar19 10 ай бұрын

@@humblescribe8522that was my first thought as well

@somethinglikethat2176 9 ай бұрын

@@humblescribe8522 would you even notice either unless is was from the front?

@adfaklsdjf 9 ай бұрын

@@somethinglikethat2176 yeah not in a civilian aircraft, and i don't think transportation aircraft have the agility to try to evade anything..

@TwilightSun32 9 ай бұрын

I don't see that "maneuvers" as something important. could be some instruction was issued to pilot just to better separation from other targets on radar or something other not realy relevant (even software glitch or inteference from some military instruments involved, etc.)

@robertjarman3703 10 ай бұрын

The Parthian general defeated Crassus and poured liquid gold into his mouth. The Parthian king executed the general for being a threat to his power. Also, Tribune Aquila did not give permission to pour molten gold.

@Graatand 10 ай бұрын

What are the odds that we could convince Historia Civilis to do a series on some more recent history? I just realized that I need the adventures of the little hotdog-selling square 🟧 in my life.

@jamesferguson6839 10 ай бұрын

@@Graatand That there is perfect hotdog-selling square colour.

@gonwest 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for jumping in on this topic quickly. I honestly thought Prigozhin was smarter than this. I thought taking him out was going to be much, much harder. In fact, my very 1st thought was that Prigozhin was faking his own death.

@mixmashandtinker3266 9 ай бұрын

I SO love the humorous narrative! So many puns and dark jokes! Keep it up @PerunAu

@priyan605 10 ай бұрын

It's actually really nice to see you talk about Africa, you should maybe do a video or two about some of the conflicts going on there, especially since they aren't covered by Western media very well

@BiggestCorvid 10 ай бұрын

I kinda need to know a lot more about industry in that part of Africa as a whole. Where do they get their concrete and steel from, their aluminum and their copper, their chips etc. This channel has taught me a lot about how building things is really really important to making things.

@JinKee 10 ай бұрын

@@BiggestCorvid T-sply on youtube is covering ECOWAS/Niger and the coups that have created a band of puppet government juntas from the atlantic to the red sea.

@andymckinney5151 10 ай бұрын

I recommend "The Next Factory of the World" which examines growing industrialization of Africa by way of several examples. @@BiggestCorvid

@concept5631 10 ай бұрын

@@BiggestCorvid Botswana deserves its own video.

@Repairapplenow1 10 ай бұрын

@aliveortees Short answer? China. China is the world’s largest concrete producer by a mile. The Chinese “Belt and Road” initiative is a policy that encourages massive Chinese investments in Africa and Southeast Asia. Basically, Chinese contractors do the work for Pennie’s on the dollar, and in return they gain permanent access to any infrastructure they built. It’s obviously more complicated than that, but in terms of raw materials, it’s simple enough to just say “China does it”.

@robertosans5250 10 ай бұрын

As usual, excellent commentary about this political assasination. There are several mysteries in this incident, the largest one is why all these important wagner heads decided to fly together.

@nicolaasstempels8207 10 ай бұрын

Yes, that is close to unbelievable.

@canadiangemstones7636 10 ай бұрын

Newsflash: they are idiots.

@johanmetreus1268 10 ай бұрын

An even greater mystery is why they all gathered in Moscow to begin with...

@SpringIsBACK 10 ай бұрын

Prigozhin had a real "I don't give a flying 'F' " attitude. Lukashenko quoted him as saying "The hell with it. If I die, I die." Possibly because he felt he'd been stabbed in the back so many times by "Russia". But, it's hard to believe so many others felt the same. Given the apparently good relationship between Prigozhin's troops and himself, did he not care about what their men would face afterward -- unless, of course, that was already planned out?

@zippyparakeet1074 9 ай бұрын

Maybe there was an agreement between Wagner leadership and Moscow leadership that Putin would let them live if they chose to withdraw completely from the public eye, i.e be dead to the world. So this convenient crash is actually a false flag and they're all still alive but out of the public eye and might continue to live in exile for the rest of their lives. Kinda like Nazis in Argentina type deal, you know. Restart lives as different people and Putin ensures their older selfs are dead to the Public through this fake crash - I mean the crash is real but the passenger list is probably not. Just a theory obviously.

@sandwich5344 10 ай бұрын

As always, Thanks Perun! Honestly, as a dutchman myself i can't WAIT for the Air-war continuation episode next week, but even with Preggie playing DCS (Digital Crash Simulator) err- scratch that... RLCS I think you'll strike the sweet spot on the topic of the F16 transfers in it's timewindow next week. As per always you've been playing the right cards at the right time and providing us with the best sunday afternoons ever. I'm sure you'll bring up yet another on time, on target and on point presentation next week! Thank you and Houdoe

@karenjanusch7978 9 ай бұрын

I've been waiting for this. Ty perun

@PwnySlaystation01 10 ай бұрын

re: organizations not allowing senior execs to be on the same plane etc. I used to work in an IT org that was critical to major economies. I wasn't a senior exec or anything, but my particular department was 24/7/365. Those of us on the same shift weren't even allowed to eat lunch at the same place in case there was a case of food poisoning lol

@YourTypicalMental 10 ай бұрын

My biggest takeaway from the whole Wagner is that I really appreciate how Western military culture and structure evolved in the 19th century from a play thing for the nobility to extension of the modern Nation-state. I like my armies with civilian masters. So stable and predictable, with considerably less human wave tactics.

@aliasalias8433 10 ай бұрын

True words!

@KasumiRINA 10 ай бұрын

Huh? But russia has a civilian minister of defense. Shoigu is not military. At all. Putin is also civilian.

@YourTypicalMental 9 ай бұрын

@@KasumiRINA are you honestly trying to make the argument that Russia still has a civilian government? Are you legitimately trying to make an equivalence between the Russian state and Western democracies???

@ExecutiveChefLance 9 ай бұрын

To act like Russia isn't "West" is false. Not until the USA became the West's Leader did Russia start saying they were a total separation from the West. The beginning of the process you speak of. Occurred with French and American revolutions leading to the Monarchies collapsing. The French Revolution---Napoleon was explicitly stopped by Russia. During that time period. Russian, German and English kings WERE COUSINS. Russia not West? Fact is your Blinded by Hindsight. Kings sent Men to death ALL DAY. But they had only Swords. WWI you do see every country except Germany and England send Mass Waves. So has nothing to do with West. AND EVERYTHING to do with Authoritarian Elites AKA the Monarchy your congratulating in the West's supposed "Empathy". Get IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. Elites don't give a f**k about you. I'm not talking about Hollywood or some crap like that. I am talking about the .01% Rich. That is the New Monarchy trying to control everything. They don't care about your life one bit. Peasants, Serfs, Peons, Slaves, Poor. These are barely animals to the Ultra Rich and Kings of the Past.

@johanmetreus1268 9 ай бұрын

@@YourTypicalMental Do you seriously claim that Putler is the head of a military junta? If not, what does "civilian" has to do with "democratic"?

@enemyofthestatewearein7945 10 ай бұрын

The greatest problem for Putin in these events is that he has been dramatically shown to not be an honest broker, since he reneged on his deal with Prigozhin. This completely destroys the very common narrative that Ukraine should negotiate for peace, which was probably the only possible way that Putin could find a way to back out of his disastrous SMO.

@benlubbers4943 9 ай бұрын

The tent photo is fairly straightforward to explain. Prighozin liked to portray himself as 'a man of the troops' so he did the basic 'treat your troops like you treat yourself'. The Wagner fighters slept in a tent in Belarus, so just for photo ops Prigo slept there to. RUMINT says he actually did sleep there for real, with good effect on troop morale, but that's RUMINT.

@johnathanhughes9881 9 ай бұрын

. . . He preferred his soldiers not to wear pants? ;)

@benlubbers4943 9 ай бұрын

@@johnathanhughes9881 Implication of that photo is he literally just woke up after sleeping on a cot in a tent. Do you sleep with pants?

@johnathanhughes9881 9 ай бұрын

@@benlubbers4943 It's okay. I'm just mocking the dude. :)

@apc9714 10 ай бұрын

When asked about something: Perun: I will wait untill more information on the subject is available to make any prediction Me: I will wait untill Perun video on the subject is available to make any prediction

@LadyTylerBioRodriguez 10 ай бұрын

I mean props for not settling for a window. Blowing up a plane is waaaaay more high profile and sends a stronger message.

@DancingJesusCat 9 ай бұрын

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd suggest that Utkin was also the philosophical and ideological cornerstone of Wagner. Apparently it was he who came up with the name, based on Richard Wagner, who was 'You Know Who's' favourite composer. And there are alternative pictures of Utkin showing that he has at least one interesting tattoo - you know the one, an eagle holding a kind of crooked-cross. Yes, they're neo-nazis, just in case you were having issues joining the dots 😂

@cynthiaarnold1371 9 ай бұрын

Such irony given that putin said one of the attack aims was to de-natzivize Ukraine.

@athrowaway3487 9 ай бұрын

The PMC Wagner, a group of neo-nazis, invading Ukraine to "de-nazify" it, is one of the funniest things of this whole war

@phillipholland6795 9 ай бұрын

@@athrowaway3487 Whether they were or not, it does not change the fact that Ukraine actively supported genocide for others but cried and rambled to the world when it happened to them. So either way it's cool.

@athrowaway3487 9 ай бұрын

@@phillipholland6795 when + how did they support genocide for others?

@phillipholland6795 9 ай бұрын

@@athrowaway3487 During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, there were many troops from ukraine who participated AND they vocally supported the Zionist genocide of Palestine for many years, even until pretty recently so they get no sympathy from me at all. The only times they had anything "humanitarian" to say on a global stage was when it was a NATO-Russia issue that threatened them directly. But getting involved and promoting and celebrating the deaths of civillians elsewhere shows they had this coming.

@alexanderrobertson7040 3 ай бұрын

It's been a pleasure following this channel

@LouigiVerona 10 ай бұрын

"maybe the military decided to send Prigozhin the ammunition he demanded, only at slightly higher speeds" :D

@thomasdelancey5105 10 ай бұрын

The most impressive bit is that you had prepared this “for some time”. Thanks for seeing the future clearly for those of us that just wonder what will happen this afternoon.

@Dramatic_Gaming 10 ай бұрын

I mean, look at Putin's track record. This wasn't a question of 'if', but 'when and how'.

@capitalinventor4823 10 ай бұрын

Any good journalist, and Perun is an excellent journalist, will have files relatively up to date on stories that they want to publish for events that haven't happened yet. In large news organizations it is very common to have background information on important people and celebrities in case a breaking store happens or an obituary needs to be written quickly. As @Dramatic_Gaming stated, Putin has a long record of dealing harshly with people whom break his trust. Many people expected Putin to inflict capital punishment right away.

@maxlarivee3663 9 ай бұрын

"Special landing operation". You crack me up! Keep up the great work, and the awesome puns!

@MsKestrela 10 ай бұрын

Your deep-dive analyses are SO good! Thank you.

@brutester 10 ай бұрын

28:29 Given that during the run to Moscow Wagner shutdown a plane with officers from VKS and some more helicopters with pilots, there will be a lot of folks ready to do it even without getting an order. An order just makes things easier, not harder.

@zackaryfrancisco2795 10 ай бұрын

"whoopsie wrong button"

@somethinglikethat2176 9 ай бұрын

If you lost a brother or son in that, it would be very strong motivation.

@jeckjeck3119 9 ай бұрын

@@somethinglikethat2176 Russians and camaraderie? Doubtful.

@alexandrejosedacostaneto381 10 ай бұрын

It is worth noting that IF the aircraft was not shot down, Russia should invite Embraer, who made the aircraft, to participate in the investigation. So unless Russia's aviation authorities invite Embraer, we can be pretty sure the aircraft was shot down

@AspynDoesStuff 10 ай бұрын

+ Embraer is a Brazilian company, which is a part of BRICS, so why wouldn't they if it really was a accident

@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger 10 ай бұрын

@@AspynDoesStuffwell I can assume Emraer is trying to be a legit company. Backing a false investigation makes you as a company look less trustworthy.

@user-lv7ph7hs7l 10 ай бұрын

@@The_Faceless_No_Name_StrangerThey are huge. Most small regional turboprops are their machines. Flown on them many times, the jet of Prigo was a modified small airliner, they rebranded as a luxury jet. The company will be fine. No one is talking mechanical problems and even if the aircraft had not been officially maintened for years, so even if it was mechanical, it wouldn't really cast a shawdow over Embraer. I think they will do nothing. And they probably won't invite Brazilian air crash investigators.

@julkusoffermanns5113 10 ай бұрын

Thank u so much for your Knowledge and the sympathic way you are sharing it with us. Sunday is Perunday. Greetings from Germany ❤

@markyg254 9 ай бұрын

It's the breakdown I've been waiting for. Great work, as always.

@marcogenovesi8570 10 ай бұрын

I have strong suspicions that they were not "voluntarily" or even "conscious" on that plane

@TheCaptainTrout 10 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing when Perun went into the passenger list and how bad an idea it was to have so many big eggs in one basket.

@anastunya 9 ай бұрын

BINGO! As Wagner leaders rarely were seen together.

@Matuse 9 ай бұрын

Except how could you load a bunch of unwilling or unconscious people onto the plane without the crew noticing? There's just no way the pilots signed up for a suicide mission.

@marcogenovesi8570 9 ай бұрын

@@Matuse telling them this is just a high profile transport mission and if they refuse their families will be "involved". So just like every other time they fly high ranking Wagner people and their most likely illegal stuff around

@marcogenovesi8570 9 ай бұрын

@@Matuse there is also the more tinfoil hat explanation of "the crew was also unwilling or unconscious and the plane was remote controlled". This is a nation-state level operation involving surface-to-air-missiles after all. Remote controlling a plane isn't terribly complex even for a civilian firm these days

@battenbergbobby82 10 ай бұрын

Best and most well presented discussion of these events on KZfaq (probably even in the Internet at the moment) Keep up the great work Perun!

@thomaswagner2586 10 ай бұрын

So well done. I am looking forward to seeing your video next week. Always a trat to see.❤

@michaelcrossley4716 10 ай бұрын

I feel like a kid on xmas morning. Thanks for fast tracking this Perun. Cheers!

@AxellWolff 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the great video and big hugs from Kyiv. You continue to be one of the most insightful commentators and analytics of the war, and watching you each Sunday is now a tradition for me :) One of the things that I wanted to point out, that in my view just underscores that more than anything this was an execution made very public on purpose. There were reports (and videos, that you can find) coming from russia, where wagner veterans are complaining that the cemetery of their brother-in-arms is being demolished - with piles of taken-down crosses and some areas being covered with cement by construction workers... In almost two years we are used to many stuff here in Ukraine, and I don't have any sympathy to these brutal mercenaries, but even with that - I was shocked by this move. Then again - it's very stalin-like - don't just destroy, but also erase... And still the population will support all of this. The graves of the 'heroes' of siege of Bakhmut being erased few months forward and they still have no doubts that they are on the right side of history...

@JinKee 10 ай бұрын

It's like a Pharoh erasing all the names on the monuments.

@JinKee 10 ай бұрын

7:00 Blackwater was disbanded and rebranded as "Academi" to provide training in military skills.

@tristanyoung9673 10 ай бұрын

Wooden crosses were removed for dragons teeth grave stones you clod

@FLUFFYCAT_PNW 10 ай бұрын

Getting to hear your analysis of current world events is such an absolute pleasure and an extraordinary privilege. It's the reason I look forward to Sundays these days. I hope you're well and look forward to what's to come. 🎉

@johnbwill 9 ай бұрын

As aalways - thorough, concise and super-informative. Thanks Perun. Top quality work!!!

@ismailnyeyusof3520 9 ай бұрын

The old saying ‘He who lives by the sword, will die by the sword’ applies for both Prighozin and, ultimately, to Putin.

@yomumisminging 10 ай бұрын

Hey man, really appreciate all the work you put into these videos, the structure and depth are a real testament to how important it is to you that these stories get told. Particularly given the fact you no doubt had an entirely different script near completion when this event occurred. Anyway, you're doing a great service.

@johncampbell2273 10 ай бұрын

Very detailed and comprehensive. Apreciate the level of research and the entertaining delivery. Never failing to cover the most urgent and imactive topics. As always Kudos.

@Suburp212 9 ай бұрын

If you aim for the king, you better do not miss.

@Xv7kyle7vx 10 ай бұрын

You know you were important when Perun does an hour video on your death.

@RJStockton 10 ай бұрын

RIP Kristina Raspopova. I can only imagine how happy you must have been to get the flight attendant job.

@x--. 10 ай бұрын

I struggle to imagine anyone choosing to work for a warlord and thinking they aren't facing mortal danger. Like pilots transporting a general or politician during wars of the past, it's not a safe job. Did she deserve it? Unlikely but the choice was there.

@IrishTechnicalThinker 10 ай бұрын

It was great to see Usyk defend and retain the heavyweight championship belts for Ukraine, there was 40,000 refugees watching the fight Live in Poland. It was a magnificent sight, can you imagine being Ukrainian and your nation is being decimated and you see a boxer fighting for possibly the greatest trophy in sporting history and doing it wearing Ukrainian colours.

@KasumiRINA 10 ай бұрын

Usyk was canceled before for his pro-russian position, and I remember rooting for Joshua twice. A lot of people forgave and forgot.

@IrishTechnicalThinker 9 ай бұрын

@@KasumiRINA It was Usyk old promoter who forced him to appear pro Russian to garner more fans but he's openly said in interviews he has always been Ukrainian and previously wasn't allowed to even wear any Ukrainian flag on his shorts but he demanded to have Ukrainian colours in boxing shoes. Which he wore last night with honour and pride.

@DrBoobY2K 9 ай бұрын

Even if how he defended it was really quite suspect. If it was a low blow, why wasn't a point deducted. Usyk was the better fighter, for sure, but he lost.

@IrishTechnicalThinker 9 ай бұрын

@@DrBoobY2K Wait what, do you know boxing? Boxing rules are punches must be above the belt. Not on the belt or below, above. At no point did the punch land on his skin, it landed on his shorts. A point wasn't deducted because it was accidental, if it was intentional and point would be deducted.

@rubenskiii 9 ай бұрын

@@IrishTechnicalThinkerin my country the Netherlands if someone is a nasty and backstabbing person we say “Hij is onder de gordel.”(He strikes below the belt). It goes back a long time in history, because amongst humans it has been understood for a long time that a stab in the nuts is incredibly nasty and basically cheating hahaha.