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The Death of The A7S Series? | Sony ZVE1 vs Sony A7SIII

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Peter Lindgren

Peter Lindgren

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@jsjproductions1468
@jsjproductions1468 Жыл бұрын
I have seen none stop comments of the Sony a7siii vs Sony ZV-E1. You have to remember that ZV-E1 is intended for Vloggers. If you intend on getting sony A7siii for more Professional Videography im here to give you confidence to get it. The fact that you can't fully rely on the ZV-E1 not overheating in situations such as wedding and events, I will always choose a more reliable camera such as the Sony A7siii. Also dont forget only one card slot for the ZV-E1 therefore if you have an issue with that card during a shoot your footage is now lost. Compared to having the footage dualy being recorded on two slots and having back up with the Sony A7siii. Obviously new tools will start slowly being better then older camera even cameras that are only 6 months old. But dont just look at quality of the video sensor but look at what you intend the camera to be used for. For me Sony A7siii is still better my for my need in Reliability of not over heating, two SD card slot and ability to use 120 and 240fps. Sony a7Siii is a Masterpiece and who knows maybe our prayers will be answered getting Firmware update soon XD. Btw I'm not trashing on ZV-E1 it is an amazing Vlogging camera that is pushing new levels of cheaper quality camera. But I do have to stop the trend of people putting ZV-E1 above the Masterpiece Sony A7Siii
@switchunboxing
@switchunboxing Жыл бұрын
No, you’re exactly right, it’s just a really big drag that you’re going to be paying over a thousand dollars extra for a grip, viewfinder, and extra card slot - while losing features. Hopefully it drops in price soon or they introduce another pro camera in its place that blows the zve1 out of the water. But yeah, it’s just one of those things with technology. You can always play the waiting game and see. Or just cough up the extra $1,300 for a card slot. Def will need it if you’re doing it for a client.
@luxurybuzz3681
@luxurybuzz3681 Жыл бұрын
@Switch Unboxing There's always going to be a better camera some time in the future. It's called planned obsolescence. Every MBA learns about it in business school. Also, it's just the nature of evolving technology. Every 2 years computer chips get twice as fast.
@yourmagicfilm
@yourmagicfilm Жыл бұрын
Nailed it. I’m not at all sad my incredible Sony a7s3 that’s coming up on 3 years old is finally not as good as new cameras…yet it still doesn’t overheat. Until overheating is solved, the a7s line will remain
@Dennis94913
@Dennis94913 Жыл бұрын
Honestly most of the features in the e1 is gimmicky, but if you need a cheapo a7s3 then its a good deal i guess.
@ezrontariganofficial
@ezrontariganofficial Жыл бұрын
real comments! give credit when credit is due, peter use that thumbnail as a clickbait for sure , in Quality , it’s like heaven and earth to even compare the two haha
@KaesarSousa
@KaesarSousa Жыл бұрын
As a Wedding videographer I find myself using the viewfinder a lot, especially outside. Several years ago when I started using the A7s version 1 I thought I would never use it but today I feel it's a must have. The dials are helpful if you want to film in high frame rates (ex120fps) and you want to keep the audio... Having the two card slots is also a MUST HAVE and this new camera will definitely overheat in long shootings... The ZVE1 could be a nice B camera for the A7S III or the FX3 if your not planning on filming long takes but never a real substitute. The A7S III has two and a half years but it's a reliable camera. I would not do or advise anyone to do a professional work with this ZVE1, it's a vlogging camera, not a pro camera. The only thing to ask is that Sony can give us via firmware update some of the additional features in the A7S and FX3.
@michaelscott1778
@michaelscott1778 Жыл бұрын
YES ! Professional videographers use a viewfinder and focus in manual. Maybe first use an auto but then switch back to really make sure they are created clear in focus. The 9 million viewfinder has a real purpose.
@donovankean
@donovankean Жыл бұрын
I personally would miss the mode selector a ton. On my a7s3, I use 1,2 & 3 for 24, 60, and 120 FPS respectively. It's an amazing way to easily and quickly switch between frame rates.
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
It’s super neat to have the mode wheel!
@LouiDali
@LouiDali Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is a feature I would never wanna give up tbh.
@ChrisMitchells_FlyingCameras
@ChrisMitchells_FlyingCameras Жыл бұрын
Same with me, definitely agree!
@switchunboxing
@switchunboxing Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don’t think this is meant to replace that camera. I think something better is coming down the pipeline. more expensive though.
@Average1212
@Average1212 Жыл бұрын
@@switchunboxing If I was to bet, I would say the A7s4 will be an 18MP 6K camera. With all the new bells and whistles in a professional body. It will only cost 1.5 kidneys and maybe a third of your liver.
@CLIFFLIX
@CLIFFLIX Жыл бұрын
Would you trust the ZVE1 to shoot a live concert or a stage play without it shutting down on you? (plugged to USB power) Would you let it roll for 1+ hour on a wedding and not worry about it overheating? The S-III has never once overheated on me.....even when doing back to back lectures and day long training classes. I have turned on my S-III at 7am and let it run all day, non-stop until 7pm.
@Edmundlu
@Edmundlu Жыл бұрын
I'm interested in seeing what else is in store for the future since this tiny camera can pack all of these features. I love my A7Siii ! The ZVE1 is probably just the baby of new things coming out!
@vinstrigz6202
@vinstrigz6202 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking the same!
@theendurance
@theendurance Ай бұрын
I hope not. I don’t want it to become obsolete so quickly 😅
@ItsMe_Philippines
@ItsMe_Philippines Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of people getting sensitive over this camera. Confused why because it’s not sold as a “cinema camera”. It’s sold as a “vlogging camera”. We shouldn’t be comparing it to any a7 camera or FX camera because there different lines completely. Now when you compare it to the older ZV cameras it is a massive step up for their “vlogging line”. So if you’re going to complain about the fan overheating or the fact that it doesn’t have two card slots, it means you’re shopping in the wrong camera line.
@RobertAhearne
@RobertAhearne Жыл бұрын
As a professional, not having a second card slot for backup recording is a significant issue. It's my reason for sticking with a7siii, a nice B/C camera perhaps
@enisakoska2264
@enisakoska2264 Жыл бұрын
A significant issue? You know you can get an SD pouch, keep in your pocket, and take what, 12 seconds to swap it out?
@RobertAhearne
@RobertAhearne Жыл бұрын
@@enisakoska2264 what happens when your recording a live event and the cards curropt? There's no way of retrieving the data, this is where a back up slot is used.
@mattpierson
@mattpierson Жыл бұрын
As someone who has been saving up $$ to upgrade from my a6400, this just might be the perfect camera I was looking for. Would love a comparison between this and the FX30.
@WillemvanderPijl
@WillemvanderPijl Жыл бұрын
No viewfinder is a step back from my a6400 imo
@alexanderK1124
@alexanderK1124 Жыл бұрын
I am fellow A6400 user and needed to step up to a new camera I went with the FX30. I love it honestly the fact that I can use the same lens for both was a big deal to me because full frame lens cost more. To be honest it was a learning curve I had to adjust to but if your dedicated to learning and getting better on your craft then learning something kinda new is not a big deal. I’m not trying to push you to a FX30 just giving you my experience with the switch from A6400 to Fx30. Most definitely do your own research so you feel comfortable and confident on what camera to spend your money on.
@humanfirst11
@humanfirst11 Жыл бұрын
A7C ii might be right around the corner
@casianosd
@casianosd Жыл бұрын
If you're a professional....the single SD slot is a simply a no go
@WillemvanderPijl
@WillemvanderPijl Жыл бұрын
@@casianosd I am not one yet but if I start to shoot weddings I NEED a second slot for backups
@pomanprod
@pomanprod Жыл бұрын
The A7S3 is so good after the first one that I bought two more a7S3. They are my work horse, routinely recording continuously 4k60 in 10bit for 10 hours straight.
@saxophonistscorner
@saxophonistscorner 4 ай бұрын
but if you were going to buy your first camera right now (2024), would you still buy the a7s3 at full price?
@pomanprod
@pomanprod 4 ай бұрын
@@saxophonistscorner yes but know that you can buy the a7s3 for less than $3000 on greentoe now. The camera that I would buy now is a used a1.
@jake2eproductions
@jake2eproductions Жыл бұрын
I use my a7siii viewfinder when im on a tripod or monopod to check focus and exposure when its very bright outside and I dont have a highh nit monitor. The detail in the EVF must be industry leading...or adleast it was when it came out. Great video as usual man!
@urbanrunoff
@urbanrunoff Жыл бұрын
lack of EVF is a dealbreaker for me. I need it and adding a viewfinder (the ones that stick to LCD) defeats the purpose of why i would be getting this camera in the first place, it becomes effectively less compact and stealth than the a7siii. i guess they are targeting the vlogger.
@mantas2139
@mantas2139 Жыл бұрын
​@@urbanrunoff This is literally vloggers camera do you even watch official release's from manufactures...
@urbanrunoff
@urbanrunoff Жыл бұрын
@@mantas2139 no i did not , i don't read manuals either :D.
@Maxiv3x
@Maxiv3x Жыл бұрын
I really don’t like your thumbnails anymore. They are just there to get attention by creating „false“ information. Sony is doing a good job in marketing that’s it. There is no real reason to buy this camera as a pro when you have the s3 or fx3
@BrianTheCameraGuy
@BrianTheCameraGuy Жыл бұрын
I don't think it is the death of the s line. I think the a7siv which I think will be out next year will have all this stuff and them more. The better flip screen, luts, and other stuff. But I do agree. I would get this if I did not have the a7siii.
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't make sense to drop an A7SIV just for those things though. I HIGHLY doubt we'll see another S Series Camera, but i might be wrong!
@HANKBRAVO81
@HANKBRAVO81 Жыл бұрын
I’d listen to the man that Sony trusted with their product launch and the fact he has just swapped his A7SIII for the ZVE1. IF…the A7SIV drops this year and Peter utterly shills it and drops the ZVE 1 like a bad habit then, something fruity has taken place haha. The FX3 has replaced the A7S line 👍🏻
@tonygerassi1502
@tonygerassi1502 Жыл бұрын
I think between the A9iii and FX3ii will end up replacing the A7s line. What would the next step be for an A7siv? 8k? The A1 already has it, 6k? Maybe, 4k240? I would like that. The only way to get 6k would be a 30mp sensor, and if it’s stacked then we can get butter smooth read out speeds without rolling shutter. I think the A7s and A9 lines are getting closer and closer and if they include the video features in the A9iii to utilize the stacked sensor, then we might get the best hybrid camera this year.
@keithmonday5155
@keithmonday5155 Жыл бұрын
Agree, I’ve already moved to the A1. Photos are clearly better and the video looks fantastic. The A7iv and A1 can do it all, so why not just update the FX3 for the videographers.
@DocBoA
@DocBoA Жыл бұрын
Seems like more of an update to the A7c with 1 slot, micro hdmi, no evf(yes the c has an evf but its trash). They just used the siii sensor because the iv must have a new sensor
@Raptvre_media
@Raptvre_media Жыл бұрын
There’s a lot that you mentioned, that would be a deal breaker for me on the ZV-E1. 1. The less weight. For someone like me, shooting handheld most of the time, more weight in my hands is great for balancing and stabilizing my shots. 2. Only 1 SD(!!!) Slot. Sony let their users wait for a two-slot option until the A7III (I guess) just to take it away in their new one. Why would you do that, if not for the purpose of giving your flagship cameras some reason to further exist? 3. As you mentioned… the possibility to customize some buttons to make you faster. Anyway I wish they would pack dynamic active IBIS into an hypothetical A7SIV, just like I would wish for the possibility to load a custom LUT. But as long as they don’t put that LUT thing in there, there’s always external monitors to work around that. The ZV-E1 might be a great camera for vlogging or social media content. But as it was mentioned before, I don’t think I would take it to a professional shooting.
@SoRealSoReal23
@SoRealSoReal23 Жыл бұрын
Yes it will be the death of the A7Siii in the sense that Sony really screwed us by refusing to provide firmware updates. 95% of what the ZVE1 can do that the A7Siii can’t is just software updates on the same chip set from the A7Siii. If you are buying a camera for client work, the A7Siii wins out in terms of usability, reliability, and redundancy.
@uphdennyalexander
@uphdennyalexander 7 ай бұрын
Is it worth to buy a7siii in 2024.?
@TravisVarga
@TravisVarga 5 ай бұрын
Yes it’s still King
@Tonellacam
@Tonellacam Жыл бұрын
You can only use this thing for like 30 minutes at a time , and then you need a 10 minute break and only 1 slot , it’s a no from me , but I’m sure it was made for vloggers
@SatongiFilms
@SatongiFilms Жыл бұрын
next we need a sensor that rotates 90 degrees inside the camera for mixed content creators
@ronlee97
@ronlee97 Жыл бұрын
New user will be either getting a ZV-E1 for casual use or a Fx3 for professional use. A7Siii still a great camera, but the lack of update just don't give any reasons for new users to buy.
@switchunboxing
@switchunboxing Жыл бұрын
They gotta drop that price
@DigitalSmokeStudios1
@DigitalSmokeStudios1 7 ай бұрын
I own and shoot with both. Although the autofocus is good the ZVE1... It seems like a toy compared to A7S iii. No EVF, Can't handle 4K 120 without overheating, have to double press for ISO changes, no mode dial, no dual card slots, a waste of space background blur button for folks that don't understand aperture/manual exposure. The stabilization modes are decent but they are not available with 4K 120. I like the ZVE1 and use it often for quick jobs and use the A7S iii for my passion projects.
@Intuifilm
@Intuifilm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Maybe I just dream too much, but I really hope that they will release a firmware update for the a7siii soon as they did when the Fx3 was released and they add S-cinetone a few days later. I really don't understand their politics, and they are gonna make people go to other brands. Sony please take care of your customers too...
@Intuifilm
@Intuifilm Жыл бұрын
I just had an answer from sony about a question I posted on their youtube channel about their lack of firmware updates... I tought it was interesting to share with you all. sony's answer: LARRY FROM SONY il y a 39 minutes I want you to know that I hear you. I can't and don't speak for the product engineers that work to develop the firmware updates that you are asking about, but sometimes (like with all consumer electronics), hardware requirements to support certain features. Traditionally, we always try to keep our products up to date for our customers and that is the core of building a long term relationship with our customers. As I said, I am not sure what the product engineers may or may not be working on, but with the most recent update to the cameras you mentioned occurring 09/22, I am sure there is process the happens that prevents an overnight firmware update development (assuming that is being worked on). What I would like to know is what are some of the features that you would like to see come to A7S III, A1 etc. Thanks for taking time to reach out. Larry
@Shellvedge
@Shellvedge Жыл бұрын
@@Intuifilm it’s a half answer. Because they didn’t develop this new camera overnight. So for as long as they took to develop the new camera and feature sets, 1-2 years, they could’ve been planning a contemporary update release for the rest of the platform. The fact they don’t, is just a signal of what they are dedicating and what they are not dedicating resources to. No bad dogs in the situation, but if they make business decisions that make customers upset.
@anuraageessar_x
@anuraageessar_x Жыл бұрын
The ZV-E1 will not work in hot places like India as many Canon fujifilm & lumix cameras have failed here. Only Sony A7siii or the FX 3, 6, 9 work here among the low-budget mirrorless or cinema line cameras for motion picture or video.
@meyerdigitalfilm
@meyerdigitalfilm Жыл бұрын
The SIII never ever overheated, i had hot recordings for 6+hours....thats the bar new cameras have to reach
@storybabble
@storybabble Жыл бұрын
Big fan. Keep them coming. Last week I posted a video laying out the case as to why I think Sony has abandoned the a7s series. I was pleased to see that you share my thoughts about this. Was wondering if you’ve heard anything else that might confirm where Sony is going.
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t heard anything, but I don’t see why they should drop another in the S series… might as well go for the FX series instead!
@mayback
@mayback 5 ай бұрын
I love this review and all the points that you made. I've been debating on which Sony camera to upgrade to for some time now, and I'm leaning more towards the ZV-E1, although I know everyone keeps mentioning the overheating issue. I do almost all run and gun shooting so I don't see it be too much of an issue, but I absolutely love that you can get the same picture on the ZV-E1 as the A7s III and FX3 for a much better price (+ some additional new features). I like that you mentioned how the ZV-E1 has significant less buttons, which might take some time to adjust to as I love being able to customize all my buttons, but I hope I can work around this with a plan of what I need to priority.
@christianeggbauer
@christianeggbauer Жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, thanks for this detailled comparison video 👍. Very well made. Hope there are not too much overheating issues. AI features look fun, but don't think you would 'need' it, except the advanced autofocus. Anyways, thanks again. You do a great job. Greetings from Austria and don't forget to putsa your glasses 🤣
@MK-Creator
@MK-Creator Жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter! Another great video. I’ll keep my A7S III’s I just love all C buttons and the wheels and everything else…
@JoseTheRover
@JoseTheRover Жыл бұрын
No real professional that uses their camera for client work and to make money will CHOOSE a camera that 1- overheats and therefore isn’t reliable 2- has less buttons and knobs for special configurations 3- doesn’t have normal HDMI 4- doesn’t have multiple card slots The viewfinder is actually useful when you need a better view of the frame on an extra bright day. This camera is great for KZfaqrs who want to film themselves talk but for everyone else who’s a pro… I think having the mentioned features is a must. I mean the chance of the camera overheating alone is a dealbreaker. Most people aren’t in the KZfaq bubble. Imagine showing up on set with this ZV camera…. Not a good look.
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
Never said that you’d use this on a professional shoot though 🤷🏻. That’s why the FX3/FX6 exists
@JoseTheRover
@JoseTheRover Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 fair enough
@ScottSalvi
@ScottSalvi Жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter for explaining all the new features! Looks like a great little camera, but I love my ZVE-10 and my A7IV 😁
@meyerdigitalfilm
@meyerdigitalfilm Жыл бұрын
I would say if i knew the fx30 dropped 2 years earlier i wouldnt even bother fullframe. But now i have a sIII and a fx30 and they are a killer par. But i must say I prefer shooting S35 / APSc, the lens options are great and since light is everything i wouldnt bother so much about the lowlight performance
@ThisisAOTV
@ThisisAOTV Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@itsmikesui
@itsmikesui Жыл бұрын
It's a crappy KZfaq trend for creators to use "Death of whatever" to get more views. Congratulations, you got my view, and like! LoL, but as an A7SIII user, I'm not worrying about needing to side-grade my equipment to the "lite" version in ZVE1
@martamanera7475
@martamanera7475 3 ай бұрын
Didn’t get all the hate on zv e1 cause it’s can do the same quality as a7s3 but for less price, what’s the problem to have an extra memory card with you in the bag? Overheating can be managed with a fan and you absolutely can do professional videography on it to Collab with brands or events organisers
@PaulStam
@PaulStam 7 ай бұрын
I sold my Sony ZV-E1 because the overheating was a big problem.
@switchunboxing
@switchunboxing Жыл бұрын
Idk man I think this would be moreso raising the bar of the midrange, rather than replacing the a7s lineup. This just doesn’t replace the pro features of all the shortcut buttons and the viewfinder. Maybe something even better is coming down the pipeline 👀 Really I think this camera is in a weird space. Because lacking the dual card slot along with those other professional features, this almost puts this camera in the entry level or beginner category. Even though it has a nice camera and a not-so-entry level price. Esp carrying the ZV name. To me this actually seems like a weird category. Almost makes you think that the next professional can will be coming in higher that the a7iv.
@flexflex5853
@flexflex5853 8 ай бұрын
Even without software updates, the Sony A7S iii is always today the best compact camera for video on the market.
@aViewFromDownAndAbove
@aViewFromDownAndAbove Жыл бұрын
I am wondering what would be better, the FX30 or this ZVE1 (full frame) for city videos, now using a ZVE10 but want something better.
@WillemvanderPijl
@WillemvanderPijl Жыл бұрын
Wondering this aswel
@alfavisionsk
@alfavisionsk Жыл бұрын
Now, give me some advices 😅 I'm using A7sII for over 6 yeras now and it never let me down. I wanted SIII but now, with this camera, I really thinking about ZV too. Lots of you complain about overheating, 1SD card slot and no custom buttons. To be honest, mine A7sII has only 1 slot and I never used any custom buttons, I've just found my way and I'm use to do it this way. So for someone who is used to have only 1 slot, no custom buttons and believe that ZVE1 will not overheat, is this camera better for me? I really need 10bit and 4k 50 thats the main reason I need to update. And to be honest, If I didn't have so many E-mount lenses, probably I would go for Lumis S5 II 😅
@YadVenturess
@YadVenturess Жыл бұрын
A7S3 Is deffo not dead! I prefer it!
@MAKANart
@MAKANart Жыл бұрын
I just use the Viewfinder a lot for shooting, so I would miss that! But I don’t get it, why the A7s3 don’t get a firmware update with some of the new features..Sony! Please!
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
Do you use it to shoot videos with? I’ve ever only used it for photography 😅
@TheOriginalMigz
@TheOriginalMigz Жыл бұрын
There are quite a few reporting about overheating .. I wonder if that is going to play out, for us in Africa this camera won’t perform well if heating is an issue ..
@Edwin--
@Edwin-- Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting video. If it's the end of the A7Siii, I think it will be more because of the FX3 and FX30 than because of the ZV-E1. Personally I like the viewfinder and the shutter the A7Siii has, and are absent in all the others.
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
YEah of course the ZV series won't take over the S series, the FX series most likely will!
@ShafreelCosmos
@ShafreelCosmos Жыл бұрын
Awesome video and thanks for sharing with us. This just makes me want to buy more A7SIII’s. I love that camera and I hope the S line doesn’t end. I use it for photography all the time. The EVF is a must for me, at least when I’m filming wildlife with long zoom lenses. It just seems way more effective to use the EVF to capture wildlife.
@sujalparmar9911
@sujalparmar9911 Жыл бұрын
Sir the country where im living we have temp goes like 40°C-45°C so how as a vlogger I can use this camera. I m just youtuber travel vlogger not a professional still i hve a doubt about this situations
@markelovpt
@markelovpt Жыл бұрын
nope, single card slot, no weather sealing, overheating in 50/60p, less buttons, no mechanical shutter ( really useful for hybrid shooters on a job), good as really expensive first camera but not a pro tool.
@zedl
@zedl Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Peter! I also use the dial to switch between 1/2/3 on the A7SIII. I would love to see a side by side of how quick it is to switch on the ZVE1
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
It’s 2 steps longer basically FN MENU->Mode-> 1 / 2 / 3
@zedl
@zedl Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 sweet! Thank you Peter
@Average1212
@Average1212 Жыл бұрын
I don't see how people say this will kill the A7S series. Are professionals going to stop needing, heat management, weather sealing, dual slots, a view finder(shoot a sunny wedding without one), full size HDMI, a pro body that can use a battery grip. Just because you can get a good picture from the ZV-E1 does not negate all the things a professional needs in a body. If I was to bet, I would say the A7s4 will be an 18MP 6K camera. With all the new bells and whistles in a professional body. It will only cost 1.5 kidneys and maybe a third of your liver.
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
No, but they will most likely go for the FX series instead. I don’t see why Sony would make an S4 when they can just make an FX3 mkII and have all the filmmakers buy that camera. Hybrid shooters can just go for the a7 series
@Average1212
@Average1212 Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 I think what you say would be a logical approach. But I think from a marketing standpoint we will get an A7s4 that will be an 18MP 6K camera. With all the new bells and whistles in a professional body. AND an FX3(or 4) with the same specs in that body style. From a development point it doesn't add too much cost wise and gives the illusion of alot of choice. We already have the R, S, and base line as well as the FX line. All of them just shuffling features and bodies.
@TheHopelessGeek
@TheHopelessGeek Жыл бұрын
I've heard people say the A7SIII holds up better when shooting in hot climates as it doesn't overheat as easily. Is that true, compared to the ZV-E1?
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
Most likely yeah!
@ItzSKYVlogs
@ItzSKYVlogs Жыл бұрын
Man I've been waiting for this! I needed to know your thoughts! 😎
@MStoica
@MStoica Жыл бұрын
I've heard in a review video that the ZVE overheats after 30 minutes or so (in 4k 60)... So, for now at least, it's unusable from my point of view.
@GlassfilmWeddings
@GlassfilmWeddings Жыл бұрын
I just hate that it overheats. Can’t use it for weddings :(
@joostverpoort
@joostverpoort Жыл бұрын
I use a A7S ii and besides it's lack of dual card slot and bad auto focus I still love it and it performs very very well and no overheating at all. Extremely affordable, a good one you find for 700 -800 euro. It's always easy to spend 3 to 3.5K on a new camera but do you really need it and does it bring 3 or even 4 times more quality....
@mikemade_
@mikemade_ Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest thing to consider between the two cameras here is your use case scenario. Are you operating a videography business or are you a vlogger/youtuber? The a7SIII is marginally less expensive than the FX3 and yields an identical final product making it still the best option budget wise for a fully optioned camera in a business setting. Before all the Karens attack, remember what you have over the ZV-E1; dual memory card slots, all intra, full size HDMI (yes that's important), external Raw capabilities, more programmable function buttons, and better ergos. While if you are simply trying to vlog and make KZfaq and other digital content then the ZV-E1 would be an excellent option for you. The crop and cinema features while digital can help you set your content apart from others without having to actually learn how to do that in the editing where such "effects" normally are added. I have zero doubts that Sony will have an a7SIV in the somewhat near future and to say otherwise... hahaha well you know better than that Peter!
@G.RobertMoore-dk4sz
@G.RobertMoore-dk4sz 6 ай бұрын
I may have missed it, as i sampled through the video, but how do they compare in low light? Sure, A7s's are for many functions, but their core competency always was stellar iso. You can compare many things, but thats the essential question.
@fotomaton7852
@fotomaton7852 Жыл бұрын
Bad analysis. The A7S line will continue. It is a hybrid cam and the EVF and mechanical shutter alone are invaluable to that. If you add to that the dual card slots, full HDMI, better grip and overall body UI, and most importantly the cooling system that allows 10-bit 4:2:2 up to 4K120p with no severe overheating like those settings on a ZV-E1, then you understand why the A7S series is in no way threatened by this Vlog oriented cam.
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
Never said it was threatened by this cam, I said I think the FX series will take over.
@fotomaton7852
@fotomaton7852 Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 The title of your video is literally "The death of the A7S Series". If that's not a threat I don't know what is. 🤷‍♂
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
You also seem to forget the question mark in the title 👍🏼
@fotomaton7852
@fotomaton7852 Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 I just rewatched the video and your conclusion is "A7SIII will be the last that we see". Just to be clear, that is your opinion right, or have you since changed your mind?
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
“I think it’ll be the last in the s series” never once stated that it’s facts
@peteydx
@peteydx Жыл бұрын
Only looking at the ergonomics of these bodies i would never pick the ZV E1 over the A7SIII and than i have not mentioned the higher frame rates. I love having 4k 120fps. For starting off it might better choice only because of the price.
@Pontcher
@Pontcher Жыл бұрын
For who has a 2015 Sony a6500, and being working and well until today, you think that ZV-E1 would be the great upgrade choice between the a7iv or FX30? Or I just wait the A7C2 and hope that comes with all tech of ZVE1 and the sensor of A7IV, doing 4k60 no crop
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
I think if you’re doing mainly video, it’s hard to beat this camera for the price you pay!
@ForeignMontana
@ForeignMontana Жыл бұрын
The release should have been the zv-1 mark ii wider zoom lens, larger battery, BUILT IN ND FILTER🤦‍♂️ that’s the vloggers dream all in one, compact and can last all day.
@AJCoReTV
@AJCoReTV Жыл бұрын
They released the ZV1-F… 20mm non-zoom - fail!
@brunomamede2352
@brunomamede2352 Жыл бұрын
I would go with A7S III. All new features of ZV-1 are cool, but full HDMI, dual slots, extra buttons etc ... I can't live without it!
@giulianogirelli
@giulianogirelli Жыл бұрын
so main difference in workflow, custom button, dual sd, viewfinder. beside those things it is a smaller a7siii. thanks Peter 🙂
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
Yup!
@isaacsnowhite104
@isaacsnowhite104 Жыл бұрын
Used markert, $2400 A7SIII worth it?
@TravisVarga
@TravisVarga 5 ай бұрын
Yea that’s a great deal
@isavkov
@isavkov Жыл бұрын
For me, this camera doesn't make any sense.... at all. Yes, it's smaller, lighter, easier to use.... mmm maybe. But it has a lot of limits, that A7sIII doesn't. Yes, there is some interesting new software features, that to be honest we can definitely live without them. And it's worse, that those features are only available on this camera, and the more expensive cameras doesn't have it. But there is one thing that bugs me sooooo much... I think, there is not many vloggers, that needs this kind of cinematic horse power in a "vlog camera"... I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but the majority of vloggers wants something like ZV-1.... even smaller, even easier to use, bacause they use it in Auto. This camera just doesn't make sense.
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
Reusing great tech and rehousing it + making it more affordable. It's an A7SIII without the "Pro functions" I'm definitely gonna use this a lot! What's the limits compared to the SIII in your opinion?
@isavkov
@isavkov Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 no second card slot, no full hdmi port (I hate the microhdmi), the lack of buttons, and overheats mich faster then A7sIII (from what I’ve seen from all of you guys)… all that are dealbreakers for me.
@mariaandwolfi
@mariaandwolfi Жыл бұрын
I think that SONY’s firmware update policy is a disgrace. There is so much they could bring to there older higher end models. But they don’t, because they want us to buy there newer models. I really like my A7Siii but knowing how much more they could add to that camera through a simple firmware update is frustrating. Canon is much better when it comes to firmware updates. Just my opinion, no harm intended. Thanx Peter 📸😊
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
I agree, they could make the SIII SOOO Much better with just a new firmware...
@mkphotofilm
@mkphotofilm Жыл бұрын
Another thing that grinds my gears is no rule of 3rds shutter speed. It's a film camera ffs
@schoeferfilm
@schoeferfilm Жыл бұрын
I think there will be an overheating problem with the EV1 because of the small body 🤔 what do you think? I need a small b-cam for my FX6
@johnclay7644
@johnclay7644 Жыл бұрын
Informative comparison good potential (zve1) for the future thanks Peter
@casianosd
@casianosd Жыл бұрын
Death of a7s? What are you talking about bro? Such bs click bait
@DrL33productions
@DrL33productions Жыл бұрын
I think Sony will kill off the A7s line, if you think about it at this point there is no need. The FX3 is basically the same camera, now with the ZVE1 I really don't see the point on getting a A7siii. But I am looking Forward to the new line of comers though! I bet the FX3 ii and FX6 ii will be sick!!!. Reason I won't be investing in this camera is, I am a hybrid shooter, so I am hoping for a solid A6700. Currently rocking the A6400 for traveling. This camera won't cut it for a solid hybrid traveling camera for both photos and video.
@switchunboxing
@switchunboxing Жыл бұрын
Right this just makes me wonder what’s next
@elyajvlogs
@elyajvlogs Жыл бұрын
Is the ZV-E1 weather proof? Man... when will the A7S3 get some of these awesome firmware updates?? I think traveling to tropical climates like southeast Asia, the A7S3 is way better. Under extreme bright sunlight, the viewfinder is a blessing 😁 Plus in the rain or dusty area, those doesn't get into the camera and lens unlike the ZV-E10.
@checkeredflagfilms
@checkeredflagfilms Жыл бұрын
Question: What's your viewing experience outdoors? I've heard that the screen brightness is not sufficient for outdoor filming?
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t had any issues outside
@AWAShowme
@AWAShowme Жыл бұрын
It's great when new cameras are released, now is a good time to buy the previous versions that are still excellent. The truth - most of us don't need the latest features.
@bigwinmedia5100
@bigwinmedia5100 Жыл бұрын
I’m going with the FX30 for my D cam.
@Chaelaz
@Chaelaz Жыл бұрын
Anyone know if this is at least weather resistant? At this piont, as much as I would love the FF quality, the overheating (here in AZ we record in the 100's), and if not weather sealed, the FX30 seems the better choice for price and not having to upgrade lenses. I am kinda underwhelmed with the ZV-E1 really.
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure the FX30 is weathersealed since it has the fan vent open right?
@Chaelaz
@Chaelaz Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 My understanding, like the FX3 it does. Which seems odd with a fan, right?
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t want to test it 😅
@robertaltman222
@robertaltman222 Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 It is weather sealed- in spite of the fan...
@Chaelaz
@Chaelaz Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 Just saw another reviewer using it for wildlife in a bit of rain and mentioned Sony said the ZV-E1 is dust sealed and water resistant, but they use a cover to be safe. Definitely would not want to test the limit of water resistance either.
@jacksp8de
@jacksp8de Жыл бұрын
I was searching for a new camera and was leaning towards the FX30 but this is full frame. This is a Tough choice
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s a tough one for sure 🤔
@jacksp8de
@jacksp8de Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 yeah especially since I want to use it as a b cam to my main cinema camera Blackmagic 6k
@mkphotofilm
@mkphotofilm Жыл бұрын
The FX30 has an XLR handle, full HDMI out and built in screw holes. It's more geared towards filming, only its a cropper.
@jacksp8de
@jacksp8de Жыл бұрын
@@mkphotofilm thanks I ordered the A7iv Since I want to do some photography as well. I still will get an fx30 or something similar down the line.
@mkphotofilm
@mkphotofilm Жыл бұрын
@@jacksp8dethats a good camera if you can live without 4k slow motion. If you are mainly taking photos, it's great.
@gabe5661
@gabe5661 Жыл бұрын
The electronic viewfinder is extremely useful when nailing focus in bright outdoor conditions.
@SirJosephLopez
@SirJosephLopez Жыл бұрын
Love the content. There is some controversy here, but I love your personality. Keep being you brother.
@RexxReviews
@RexxReviews Жыл бұрын
Great video as always1
@MurlykinYaroslav
@MurlykinYaroslav 7 ай бұрын
I'm thinking of upgrading from my crop a6400 into something full frame, and don't know what to choose( sone zv-e1, sony a7s3, or Sony a7IV? ) Any suggestions?
@tonieet
@tonieet Жыл бұрын
You have not said the most IMPORTANT thing, the ZVE1 has DUAL ISO? Because if it doesn't, I think that big difference makes the A7SIII a much better camera.
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it does. It is the SAME sensor.
@tonieet
@tonieet Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 thanks for answering, you are the best
@judyjackson7321
@judyjackson7321 Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 Not sure that dual ISO is just down to the sensor, the camera has to have some electronics to support dual ISO. Do we know for sure that this camera has dual ISO capability?
@creactivestudios9543
@creactivestudios9543 Жыл бұрын
for 2 memory card slot 1 lakh 25 thousand indian rupees...there is no reason to buy a7siii over zv e1
@petero1068
@petero1068 Жыл бұрын
7:10 don’t agree. A7s3 looks better. Just look at your footage at 9:36, the A7siii has more color depth to the image, whereas the ZVE1 is washed out.
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
It’s just a matter of grading the footage 👍🏼
@petero1068
@petero1068 Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 perhaps, but all the footage I’ve seen on the ZVE1 must pretty much not been graded right cause the colors are off, or that sensor is limited. Would be good to do a side-by-side comparison on the footage.
@RICH_Photography
@RICH_Photography Жыл бұрын
I think so many creators missed the point on this camera, personally, I think this is the camera for a filmmaker/youtuber that is part of the Sony Ecosystem, and they looking for a spare camera dedicated to their KZfaq setup. At $2200 its insanely expensive for what it is, its very limited for professionals, compared to something at that launch price, the Lumix GH6, it absolutely crushes the Sony. And the GH6 is now around $1800 This is sadly a very expensive camera, dedicated to a very specific niche, I personally think Sony aimed for a good market, but its a bit limited to have people shift, its a pure added bonus to an existing Sony ecosystem.
@TommyGunsDunleavy
@TommyGunsDunleavy Жыл бұрын
I just ordered the A7 IV... Should I send it back and buy the ZZ-E1?
@castielvargastv7931
@castielvargastv7931 Жыл бұрын
S3 should get firmware updates , its a much better camera than the new overheating toy camera with the bad screen, no evf, micro hdmi and and and. I need a viewfinder and wildlife videographers need it too. The tv camera is useless for.them
@marcoaslan
@marcoaslan Жыл бұрын
Wait, you can't record 120fps in 4K ? Remind me again why you sold your A7S3 ?
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
You can, but not in S&Q. And also through a firmware update coming soon =). I sold it because i had two, and this was a perfect replacement.
@marcoaslan
@marcoaslan Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 Yea I saw that later on the sony channel, my bad
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
I also mention that In my video
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 Жыл бұрын
Photographers make the most dramatic titles to videos. Nobody is putting down the A7s cameras anytime soon
@furiousangus6467
@furiousangus6467 Жыл бұрын
While this is a great camera at a very reasonable price, this kind of destroyed the market for A7SIIIs/FX3 in a way. Why pay all that extra money to buy either when you can buy the same exact sensor and image quality PLUS amazing features for SIGNIFICANTLY less?
@bleitefilms
@bleitefilms Жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, the only thing I would definitely miss is the amount of custom buttons, and maybe the 2 card slot, but the rest sounds great, mainly with that "small price". unfortunately we cant buy a cheaper used one since it is brand new tho
@CedricAtor
@CedricAtor Жыл бұрын
You prefer to buy a used camera?😵
@RealRen3977
@RealRen3977 Жыл бұрын
What’s the best for a podcast ?
@ChrisA2617
@ChrisA2617 Жыл бұрын
2 drastically different cameras. Professional vs Prosumer. The spec sheet doesn't tell the whole story. A7S3 viewfinder is one of the best on any recent camera and if you're not using it, then you are missing out on an amazing tool that helps in not only shot composition and focus, but stability when shooting hand held. Dual card slots allowing redundant recording are a professional feature and anyone that is doing any kind of client work or legitimate filming should, without question, want that ability. Shit happens and things fail. No heat sink...The fact that this camera WILL overheat in very average conditions is another automatic red flag. The tiny recycled plastic body does not instil confidence for outdoor location shoots. This camera is an entry level camera with some big boy specs. This is a vlogger/youtube camera that has no business being out in the field where reliability is key. Don't get me wrong, it is a fantastic camera for what it is. Just don't let the specs fool you. This does not have the quality/reliability/pro mindset of the A7S3, FX3 or the FX30. The fact that Sony added a feature that puts a letterbox on the image, tells you exactly who this camera is aimed at. Whether or not there will be an A7S4... who knows. Some rumour sites are essentially confirming it. I think there's a place for it. But it needs more than just internal ND's to warrant a markIV.
@seek3n
@seek3n Жыл бұрын
Can I use cfexpress or I need uhs-ii v90 for the 4k 120p
@ctphotographx
@ctphotographx Жыл бұрын
Dang dude nice compare but I can't believe you're not leveraging the advantage of the a7s3 9mp EVF viewfinder for video. Not only for premium clarity critical review in the field, but man it makes manual focusing such a joy even without focus peaking. a7s3 essentially comes with the equivalent of a $2000 Zacuto viewfinder built in... And Zacuto makes these things because top pros understand the benefits.
@eliesersuweydes
@eliesersuweydes Жыл бұрын
well, the 7s3 is 2 and a half years old, but they made it as a 2024 camera, because it has all the resources that a future camera will still have, so it is very far from dying, only for it to have 16 bits raw output , already kills any camera that does not have!
@StianTorp
@StianTorp Жыл бұрын
I wonder what price the camera will have in Norway… It would be a good camera for my use🙂 But Im not sure if I would change from the a7iv even that it has much better video features😏
@AL3XFPV
@AL3XFPV 8 ай бұрын
one thing is having the same sensor and make same quality image, but does it have the exact same codecs and bitrates to capture it? Did Sony give it all the goodies without using the cripple hammer?
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 8 ай бұрын
Yep. Only thing is 4k120 in ALL I. But everything else is there and more
@alexkennedy5133
@alexkennedy5133 Жыл бұрын
lacks 2 sd card slots, and for that I'm out
@gurugamer8632
@gurugamer8632 Жыл бұрын
On the Sony A7S III can you film to CF EXPRESS A and SDXC same time?
@seecraig
@seecraig Жыл бұрын
Perhaps it's a prelude to the FX3 II or FX4 as Sony "cross-pollinates" new features. The question is the S series and FX series are so close as to go with a single body type and drop the S series as nearly redundant.
@TheSunnySuttons
@TheSunnySuttons Жыл бұрын
For me, I would still go with the fx3 especially for professional work due to dual card slots.
@jamskof
@jamskof Жыл бұрын
i think there will absolutely be a sony a7s iv, i think your looking at it from a video perspective only. its a hybrid camera, a sony photographers want a low light beast, so i think it will maybe get a mp bump, it will get the features of the zv-e1 and more. maybe even 6k recording. or a even higher slomo rate.
@PeterLindgren1
@PeterLindgren1 Жыл бұрын
I think You’re talking about the A7V 🤷🏻.
@jamskof
@jamskof Жыл бұрын
@@PeterLindgren1 a74 is good in low light but its not as good as the s3, theres still plenty of room for the s3 grow apart from the a7-4 and to get even better in low light..id bet my a73 on it that they will update it! it will be in the post to you if they dont! :)
@Roeykins
@Roeykins Жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, great video and super helpful! I want to shoot really good high resolution photos and killer videos as well. Would it make sense just to get the Sony a7r5 only or would you go with getting the Sony ZVE1 paired with the Sony A7iV. I'm going to sell my a7siii so i'll have to give up a few extra bucks. Thanks!
@TranzendFilms
@TranzendFilms Жыл бұрын
a7r5 instantly if ur a true hybrid photo/video person, its got the best video/photo specs , with minimal crop that shouldnt affect ur workflow
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