I think your right about that. But hey, props to you sir. Addiction is never easy. Nice work brother.

I’m absolutely convinced that you are telling the truth my friend just don’t ask me how I know! It’s just so obvious to me.

The ego indeéd is the devil, as the Devil himself was cruisified at the cross of Jesus: Col 2:15 🌾 Like the sin of the world, he is NO more. After the cross the name "satan" became a verb, a doing word. The carnal mind today is the devil (again, not a person, but by acting out of a hostile nature - an eye for an eye eyc). The natural man living from his thoughts that are alianated due to the fall of Adam, the flesh.. that is the devil. 😱😎

I’m having been going through ego death since March. The most painful time of my life. I’m just now beginning to see a light of transcendent but have a ways to go. Currently I’m working on healing/dissolving my fear. Not an easy feat but I’m in it and can’t turn back. The pain is the loss of what I strongly identified (ego) with and this identification was shattered.

@Darren I’m only a seeker of the wisdom teachers. No new age here. Jesus is the way but today there are speakers who share the wisdom but in a contemporary relatable way that speaks to the heart.

Similar - I discovered Adyashanti by searching for teaching on losing self, because of the anxiety and fear that was arising. Now I understand better, I'd say "losing identification with the egoic self". The ego doesn't die but will stop when we do.

@EndofMusic It kind of depends on how tightly identified with egoic self-concepts we are. It genuinely feels terrifyingly like dying, or can do. Dr Angelo Dilullo suggests that some people experience an epinephrine response when first experiencing unbounded consciousness, similar to that "falling off a cliff" feeling that jerks people awake. It wears off or we habituate to it as we relax into the perceptual shift of identity. When Adya talks about his first shift, he describes his physiological response in a way that sounds very similar to getting a massive epi-pen shot!

@Darren I really like your style of writing and the fire inside. Love it actually. I don't agree with all of it, maybe because the order of how it happened was just the other way around for me. But is that important? I really don't know, probably not. I went to Jesus first and a few years later Kundalini worked its way up. (The years between were joyful/painful. Will never know if I could've pushed so hard in life without faith.) When Kundalini started, it was actually painful, at first I thought it's a stroke. But I couldn't think straight so whatever, but honestly a bit of Yoga training beforehand to ready my body for it, would've been helpful as I was seriously cramped up when it happened. So when I think about all of it, I mean all the teachings, it's probably all helpful. Even doing yoga as a sport which sounds ridiculous, but the physiological side of the experience is seldom spoken of. (Maybe I was just so far off when I started, it had to hold me in place to do it.) Or take Islam or Judaism, I agree with the idea of a scale and Jesus definitely helped me load up and tip the scale. Today I believe that Jesus opened my heart (Corinth) and told Kundalini to "Finish him!!" and it crushed my ego (for a while). Like a tag team. I also think that kundalini rising is the same as the holy spirit coming down on ya. But this is just the result of my "omg I get everything"-research after it happened. Who actually cares. I mean maybe we should care, because we could build on the idea of all religions talking about the same thing. (That's an original thought -.-) Which is also really obvious, like animals of one kind doing the same stuff on different parts of the earth. Yea I know it's evolution, but there's this saying in Germany, "beavers build dams, no matter where." Yea we should unite, but we also already are, so what's the point? (lol where am I going with this?) Big question: If Jesus hadn't shown me the way, could the Kundalini have passed my heart? I don't know. I'm biased, because this was the order for me. But do I think, this order is the right and only one? I kinda do (xD) but this cannot be true for everybody. That's stupid. I mean, we all have different identitites to start off with, right? And "Cake tastes great no matter how you eat it", don't you agree? (If somebody knows whose quote this is, pls help. I thought it's Maharshi's, but I cannot find it.) Maybe you start with the cherry on top, maybe you get into the cream first. Top-down, bottom-up, who cares right? It's delicious. (Not talking about how you put that in your body btw, don't go bottom up. Would be a waste. And pls don't say other religions wanna eat the cake with their butt, they just don't, ok. But there's probably a werid cult somewhere, where they're convinced that bottomup cakes is actually the only way to do it. And it will probably work, too. I mean if you do it often enough, maybe one day, you'll stop and realize "hey man, we ARE the cake!") The problems in society you see, I see them too. And sometimes I want to to change it, too. But could I've gone this way without looking at them being another way? I don't know man, I mean, I was just like them before. So why shouldn't they also come here on their own, you know? I cannot make them listen to Adya. Or to Jesus even. I feel like they just gotta do/finish their thing, but what if you cannot do anything about it, because it's all okay. It's so stupid that power corrupts, what a downer. Hey, I had a lot of fun writing this. Love you all. One love.

Thank you for sharing Julie. I hope you're still doing well, building on that awareness!

Actually the consensus seems to be that "Letting Go" is the technology to deal with this. Ur prolly not in the loop

@@Koryogden "consensus' - group-think 'you're not in the loop' = big fat ego who needs to feel like part of an important in-group to give them a sense of self-worth. That's attitude is the opposite of 'letting-go'. McSpirituality is for people with big egos. 'the death of the ego' is McSpiritual jargon for 'I have a big fat ego'. Compassion is the only thing that kills the ego.

No I saw through it by letting go and being brave…compassion for an illusion is still a bit deluded

@@princesskenyetta4745 this is a wonderful comment. Thank you very much!

@@princesskenyetta4745 Rastafari is tha stuff. Nevermind the ego, just have yourself a lamb's bread and pick up a coptic bible.

EDGING GOD OUT 😏

Great stuff David. This sounds clear to me. Waving hello.

Is that because of the constant "seeing" over time, that you are not the thoughts appearing? That you are "your" voice in your head? Right now I have regular moments where I see clearly, the illusion that I'm thinking. No. Thinking IS JUST HAPPENING. Yet very soon, I forget or the feeling goes away and I'm identified with thought. I am the thinker.

@@caseyanderson2345 Ist much simpler than that, you are the thinker and you are the observer , you are the dance of life you are the life it self. You are everything

Blessings! Thank you for this. 🙏

Yes, trying not to forget who you are is the hardest, I'm going through it right now

did it pass when you got on the other side of it?

How did you awaken? I read The Power of Now.

I wouldn’t say that I’ve had a final awakening. My path is not complete. I’ve had a few ego shattering experiences and various glimpses beyond the veil, but the day to day is a slow and hectic/chaotic Kundalini energy unfoldment, which has lasted for years and is still ongoing. The Power of Now was what started it all for me, however, all the way back in 2007.

Hahahahah

@@zamoraobed The Power of Now.. an éxcellent book! Follow Mooji, Aaron Abke and other on Awakening or simply read John in the Bible.

@@camilledibenedetto6896 Hahaha 🤔

Ego is killed at the cross of Jesus, the flesh, the sinful nature.. hostile and only focused on "me, myself and i". Col 2:12-15 😱 The cross-events took place inside of us, in our skull, that's where the awakening starts.. Gal 2:20 "i" no longer live, but Christ is living in and thru me". Blessings!

@@eekay5710 Thy Will Be Done

Know thyself 💕🔑☮️

Ego death seems illogical either way even if we are just discussing semantics. We still have an ego, a persona, layers and layers, even after an awakening happens, though we keep shedding the layers throughout life. I see it as just going through a change in consciousness, learning to control our childlike impulses, discarding unrealistic stances, understanding and hopefully accepting ourselves and the external forces more etc. I like the last part you wrote. I don't take myself as serious as I did and have found a great relief and serenity in that. Cheers.

You see right if you see that we are one with another, but then only in Christ. The "me, myself and i" is the enemy, the ego, the flesh, the carnal mind.. and thát was what Jesus cruicified at the cross!! Gal 2:20 now gives insight of who you really are.

full ego death is a scary thing, not sure thats how I want to exist... partial is good though... maybe level 2 or 3 enlightenment (of 4)

Yes bro alcohol pushes you away from yourself.

Agree. Your name is not who you are, as you are not in your body or in your thoughts. You are in Christ and He sees you holy and perfect in His sight, regardless any mistakes or shortcomings you expierence in this life. Blessings!

It's deeply reassuring, when you're sensing this, to hear it's a common experience!

@@jacquin8511 absolutely. ❤

@@josephoutward I've no need to. You're a diamond splinter of the divine whole - be what you are and believe what you like. The infinity needs you to express itself, so whatever you believe yourself to be is fine by me :)

Self-illusion or thinking is like a transparent curtain that adds an extra layer of information to our vision, we see our thoughts but they do not exist in front of us! This is the human ability to see things that do not exist! The problem that occurs in humans is that, when the nervous system contracts, the thinking process automatically begins to think! And because most people have more or less nervous system contractions, they have this extra thought! And in the long run, these thoughts almost become an additional operating system, and it makes its own decisions! If the nervous system relaxes, this process of extra thought will automatically stop and the new human being can see the world as it is without disturbing the mind! After that, it can be understood that creation is predetermined from the beginning to the end day! As consciousness we only understand the life story, and the rest is out of our control!

Some sages say that there are people like you who realized this momentary bliss. Now that you have seen what was on the other side of the fence, you know that there is greener grass and that it is possible to access it. One of the things that comes up in the teachings of the East (Buddhism, Taoism, Advaita Vedanta and Yoga) is that the mind must not be in a spirit of seeking because it cannot awaken if it look for. He must be in content and in the present moment. It is very difficult and I would like one day to realize that I will be able to see this other side of the fence too. How was it?

@@MissRomanticKitty Exactly, the problem is that. My mind and hearth can't be content in the present moment, because I've always had a terrible life and it is getting worst. After experiencing those shorts awakenings, my mind is addicted to that Bliss and can't focus to the present. It was a wonderful experience. If you have Slowly app we can talk there in private, it's a long story. My Slowly ID is: KW0BEZ

Since who was born?

@@AndressaSaporski I was talking about my self

Self-illusion or thinking is like a transparent curtain that adds an extra layer of information to our vision, we see our thoughts but they do not exist in front of us! This is the human ability to see things that do not exist! The problem that occurs in humans is that, when the nervous system contracts, the thinking process automatically begins to think! And because most people have more or less nervous system contractions, they have this extra thought! And in the long run, these thoughts almost become an additional operating system, and it makes its own decisions! If the nervous system relaxes, this process of extra thought will automatically stop and the new human being can see the world as it is without disturbing the mind! After that, it can be understood that creation is predetermined from the beginning to the end day! As consciousness we only understand the life story, and the rest is out of our control!

Who is the ‘me’ though if it’s separate to your ego?

@@gavinduggan199 Hard to explain but the one who observes..

@@Jole30 the “one who observes” is also to be seen through ;)

@@grantsachs Maybe i am stupid but i dont really get the point..

@@Jole30 just that the identification with awareness is also just another illusory identity Ultimately any notion of self is to be transcended

But in spite of these transformations, there is still a ‘You’ isn’t there? So much spirituality seems to argue that we almost don’t even really exist and I can’t get my head around that, it brings me pain. The whole no self thing, I don’t get it. I mean who is Adya, the being speaking to us, if not a self? Can you help

@@gavinduggan199 I happened to experience no self, and it is awesome! The difference is that when ego subsides it's like your identity shifts from ego to self, being, call it as you wish: it is the background, the space that is witnessing all which emerges. When everything is perceived as Life happening, watched as the open consciousness watches but "you" happen as well, your centre is not inside you, but there is no centre at all, no witness, just life, that is no self. Notice that we are multidimensional beings, each of the apparent us is a field of consciousness: so consciousness happens to shift from one dimension to another. When it perceives the field as subjct, then it is self. When it perceives itself from contraction believing it's an identity, then it is ego. When it perceives itself as a whole, not a field, then there is no main character, but just many appearences that emerge.

@@bhaktimaddalena-nakedlife Thank you, is that what Adya means why he talks about the jewel of enlightenment and states that we are a paradox, everything and nothing, nobody and yet someone?

@@gavinduggan199 as a matter of fact enlightment is becoming One with the Absolute in perpetual trascendental state and bliss. I have asked myself many questions around this stuff and I've come to the conclusion there is an Absolute, unmanifested God, that flows into Life and forms. Everything is ultimately divine because nothing can ever exist outside consciousness, but this consciousness as I said is multidimensional (you know you can have higher or lower vibes, don't you?): so the worst scenario is being contracted in ego, that means fear and separation. It is said to be an illusion because it believes itslef to be an entity, whereas it is just a density of consciousness. Then you can open up beyond ego to self, that is pure being, free and with no personal filters. The "I" is not ego anymore but self, yet it is the "excuse" consciousness uses to explore itself: that's why there can be a perception with no self. This experiences do not imply divinity, yet you experience that with no separation and no ego, what is left is peace and even love (isn't this great?). Others feel the whole thing more with a divine look and feel even literally pulled to welcome God completely, so that identity shifts toward divinity, up to complete merge (saints, yogis). All in all, anyway, it's always One consciousness exploring and loving itself.

@@bhaktimaddalena-nakedlife Thank you for your time and insight. Much appreciated. I had an awakening from ego experience a few months ago following years of spiritual seeking and it initially really scared me. Although in retrospective, it was quite beautiful really and I now understand getting beyond ego. My problem is that I’m still stuck very much in the thinking mind and trying to conceptualise everything and make it all fit (really doesn’t help that I suffer with OCD which can turn these attempts to conceptualise into actual torture). I just need to let go but I find myself repeatedly going into old patterns.

So you got through it?

@@Mantras-and-Mystics yeah man

If you completely surrender to it, it will not last that long. 😊

Illuminati means darkness of deception, from first conception it was written as a trojan horse the same as marxism. Human bondage is psychological, not material.

Sometimes a night sometimes years and years...