Great Video Sakan! I really appreciate your passion for the Chinese Martial Arts! Training with you, Rameez, Scott, Doug, G, and everyone else back during the turn of the millennium were some my favorite times as a Kung Fu/Tai Chi practitioner/teacher! Can't wait to train with you in person soon! IN THAILAND!!! :) My best, Jake Mace

Right on Sakan! Still remember watching Shaolin challenges ninja with you, Jake and Eric way back in the day. And you're right about what you're saying. I think Jake is mostly getting hit by trolls just trying to create drama on his page. I love seeing how hard you're training and working on your martial ability!!

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Unfortunately, I think this is more than just Chinese Martial Arts. Happens a ton in Okinawan and Japanese Martial Arts, as well, unfortunately. At any rate, you said it best here: "Don't kill the art. Stop nitpicking." Some of the best advice I've heard. Keep training hard, brother, and keep posting videos! (Also, super cool that you trained with Jake Mace!!)

I think great part of the problem is what you said, people are obssessed with irrelevant details instead of focusing in having greater speed, strenght, reflexes and accuracy, i have been in dojos where the black belts where arguing about the "right position" when you throw a punch and difference between those positions were of less than an inch, there is no point or relevance in that, they should be more focused on sparring and learning what is better for defence, no wonder that so many people believe that chinese martial arts are just for show.

Awesome video. I love the Chinese Martial Arts. I plan on taking some of it one day. I wish there were more instructions available who taught Chinese Martial Arts. I am a taekwondo practitioner and I can really appreciate the differences. Great video!!

I totally agree... it's so easy for people to hate on others, much easier than acknowledging talent and someone applying themselves and contributing to others. It reflects insecurity... and when it comes down to it, martial arts is based on the human anatomy and if you are a practitioner of an art that deals with striking, joint manipulation, or both, then you'll be able to tell if a technique can work or not.... regardless of wether the pinky is in a 45 degree angle or not. Jake Mace's stuff is not the easiest martial techniques (for the most part, some of his moves are simple and street-efficient) but that is the martial ART... and he's far more talented than the average person commenting or even the average martial artist commenting. Also when someone puts out that much content on KZfaq, it can't all be perfect, if you only do what you're perfect at you'll never grow. You said what I've felt like saying when reading the Jake Mace haters... of course if he wasn't hugely succesful there'd be far less haters.

I made the same basic summary you did about Jake Mace and Haters. I also did another on "Why kung fu is a bad word". I would appreciate if you hate a look. you made some good points and nit picking. I did tradition northern shaolin kung fu for 5 years.

The major issue isn't his stances, practice, etc. Though, there are a fair amount who are upset that he does not match their expectations of a self proclaimed master. The major issue is his claiming to be a master of arts people cannot trace. People can trace his Shaolin-Do Karate training, but not his Wing Chun, Xingyi, etc. He did state he learned more than Shaolin-Do when he studied, and I am inclined to believe that, as many Shaolin-Do and former Shaolin-Do teachers teach other arts who's forms are not found in Shaolin-Do. Including a few he featured on his channel under the Bagua banner. But because he legally cannot mention his teachers, thanks to Sin Kwang The's suite, it makes it hard on him.

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Love the observation matey.......... too true.... a lot of people these days have zero insight.... my old master has been describing your observation for quite some time now......

All the martial arts work other wise they wouldn't have bin created haven't at that point in time to protect those people and they still work now, and help with self renewal. Not everyone is exactly the same so we can't do everything the same for Chinese martial art or any. I personally love your videos, and I hope you can spread the love of your passions. You are right, and I hope the decline is fad and will come back some time. I wish I could learn martial arts but all that's around me is taekwando next to bike shops and Small MMA gyms with weird skinny guys with mustaches who are next to a gas station who are teaching little kids. Nothing wrong with the martial arts just hard finding proper teachers that I'll know I'll learn from. I'll share this video and like.

Very good points made I have seen a decline in other traditional martial arts systems, I think it is because people do not have the patience to learn the system or the art and the philosophy behind it.

the video cut off halfway through it on me but I would just like to tell story with on this subject. Chinese martial arts roots have been always traditionally rooted in the idea of developing the complete man. Being mind,body,spirit bring unity and balance. Chi as a explosive tool,self defense,exciting feats were all part of " benefit " to the dedication to self development and universal, spiritual awareness. Modern society has gotten away from it. Much of the focus is on the violence and how to apply that as quickly as possible with as little training and personal development as possible. This is just a element of a much bigger problem in my opinion. Thank you for sharing

Haters are gonna hate. Sakan, keep up the good work southeast asian warriors would be proud of having an excellent pupil like you.

I believe with the emergence of MMA and with the likes of people like Joe Rogan down grading style focused Martial Arts to uplift MMA is one of the reasons Chinese Martial Arts and others are getting a bad rap. For me, I'm not in a position to criticize any martial arts or martial artist being that i only trained in one . I only can speak on my experience and what I know. Good video bro.

I think that those who critique on form and stance/ do not understand their own movements of their body. everyone moves different and in Chinese martial arts it's about knowing your own body and how it moves being one with yourself and nature. appreciate how you move and focus on that not how another moves for you are not them

Right on the money brother. I've been following shifu Jake Mace for a while now without knowing that he was your shifu. I saw many haters there but didn't really care to examine them to why they did that, especially calling someone a fraud. I never like that and in fact that's my main reason for breaking someone's teeth from time to time. I follow the guy because he has the right mind though. I couldn't remember exactly but something that he said in his video hits home for me. I watched almost all of his videos and I can see his dedication, humility and his love for what he does. That's more than enough for me to respect someone. I still don't understand why some people calling him fraud and honestly I don't care. I've seen far worst performance and teaching from those with certificates before which makes me laugh all the time. Haters gonna hate brother. Trolls get there satisfaction from playing with your head. Unless they walk right to your dojo, just leave them be. I don't think these keyboard commando would ever dare walking into your dojo anyhow. Peace bro.

Hey there warrior. If you you don't mind a different perspective. I'm older and there was plenty of Kung Fu in kickboxing. As one repping the Southeast Asian martial arts at the time I ran into many. I was around when martial arts schools of all varieties started watering down their teachings to not only accomodate Western Sports fighting but also they make it easier for Lil Johnny to earn a black belt. They also stopped teaching the full self defense aspect of the forms. So the result was they started cranking out teachers who didn't realize there's a dozen small joint manipulation or multiple ways to cause deaths in their forms As expected it was the beginning of the end. But thankfully kickboxing was prevalent so fighting types could still play. Fast forward and UFC makes an appearance. Then sets rules that essentially keep out traditional martial arts. Small joint manipulation is against MMA rules. That ground and pound would get their fighters crippled. Someone proficient in it would snap and dislocate before even going to the ground. Let's just say when UFC started some traditional martial artist took it as a sign they can cut loose and got a bit overzealous? We live in a world where people think sports fighting with rules is actually true combat. So they have a low opinion of traditional martial arts and Asian martial arts in general. All without understanding reality which is hand to hand combat is in three levels Warfare is at the top Someone will perish there are no rules Self defense is second Maintaining control over self and the situation in order to save lives is the rule. Someone may die. Sports Rules specifically in place to control the situation No one dies. It's at the bottom of the list. It's playtime at best. Yet people think this is the standard and hate on arts that have proven themselves in tier 1 and 2. That said the Chinese martial arts didn't factor in the manufactured hate of sports fighting. However I saw signs of this back in the kickboxing days of the 80s. Back then the same caliber claimed boxing was superior kickboxing. Boxing with kicks added. They just didn't have the luxury of pretending they weren't idiots.

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I wouldn't say the training is outdated. i'd say most people get incomplete training. If you look at people like Shi Dejian, Bruce Frantzis, Jerry Alan Johnson, Li Shu Shen, Wang Shujin, or Liu Hung Chieh they were at a really high level.

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does it come from the so called anti-violence and the lost sense of nationalism? china, Korea themselves have create lots of them during the early 20th century? what does it need for except for "health reason".....

hey man otaka, a true martial artist will never fight MMA. MMA has rules, boundaries and even matches. real life is not like that, no rules boundaries, or ref. and true martial arts is deadly not playing in a ring to see how many times you can take a hit or give one. nothing against MMA just listen to what Bruce Lee said about MMA and he was a great master