The Emperor and his court have been driven back by the onslaught of barbarian forces laying waste to the Balkans during the Gothic war. Now it has come down to this... the crown jewel of the east is under siege... God help us
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@theophileburtz16249 жыл бұрын
The walls of Constantinople were LITERALLY impossible to penetrate ... in 674 the arabs didn't even manage to go through the walls after 4 vain years of siege... As for the desolated walls only Mehmet II's canons were able to penetrated them ... after 700 hundred of defence and 23 sieges sustained... only one word to say to the walls of Constantinople: they're EPIIIIC!!!!
@Kale_Kale9 жыл бұрын
The city was sacked during the 4th crusade, due to the fact the empire was too corrupt and weak. If they actually had decent amount of defenders they could pushed back the crusaders :(
@theophileburtz16249 жыл бұрын
Indeed the city was corrupt but the sack of Constantinople wasnt due too the lack of defenders . The Crusaders , too pay the Venetian ships to make the crusade needed to take Constantinople because of an old rivalry between the venetian dogme and the emperor of Constantinople.After having sacked the city to the ground and killed thousands of innocent people the crusaders were finally excommunicated by the pope.
@papadim86019 жыл бұрын
you both totally dont understand what happened king alexios of byzantine empire promised crusaders to give them money IF they helped them take the throne they actually helped him but then alexios didnt gave them money then alexios was removed from king by his rivals so crusaders were left at constadinopole with out money,ships and the promise that alexios gave them at the end they wanted their money and constadinopole fell
@Kale_Kale9 жыл бұрын
Alexios IV did try to give them money. The imperial treasury just did not have enough to pay his promise. He did raise some money to try to give to the crusaders but it was not enough. When he was getting unpopular with the greek cititzens, Alexios IV sent Alexios Doukas to reconcile with the crusaders. Instead Alexios Doukas imprisoned Alexios IV and his father Isaac II and most likely killed them. He was then crowned Alexios V.
@papadim86019 жыл бұрын
lol no another king took his throne
@milkandcookiesTW9 жыл бұрын
I had so much fun playing and recording this game! Seriously one of the most epic battles I've ever had. Hope you all enjoy
@bobmartin70686 жыл бұрын
milkandcookiesTW This sucks all we have are 2 duffs,yapping it up, how tge hell does this shit get on you tube.
@mortarpestle.42676 жыл бұрын
Bob Martin so much salt, my mouth is dry
@123captainrex9 жыл бұрын
That defeat was disgusting, you had completely outplayed them for almost the entire battle, and then they ninja cap final capture point:( P.S. I love how powerful cavalry are in this game
@Pemmont1079 жыл бұрын
123captainrex I agree. In my mind they won.
@JonatasAdoM6 жыл бұрын
+Pommit But they didn't, enemy captured and murdered the emperor. That's how I see the capture point, think of it like chess.
@markb84266 жыл бұрын
JonatasAdoM true
@largeshake96016 жыл бұрын
9/10 times the emperor would've bailed the city before the battle even started. So i dont see it that way
@thehunter48736 жыл бұрын
Julius CaesarII how about they took all the civilians hostage since they’d be in the town centre
@Dutchman4real9 жыл бұрын
I love thes kinds of huge sieges but I absolutely HATE the fact that catapults can destroy entire sections of walls just by throwing a few rounds at it. That way nobody stays on top of the wall and I want people storming walls with defenders trying their hardest to shoot them/ fight them once they have made it on top. gates should be focus points since they are weak points in the walls but nooooo just shoot here for a sec and look at that we made our own gate! this way you can never have those minas tirith or blackwater bay type siege battles...sieges just become city brawls since the walls never are defended.
@adolfoneto71449 жыл бұрын
he was in siege escalation 2
@Dutchman4real9 жыл бұрын
I know that but even if everything is fresh, no debuffs and walls with 0% damage etc. just shoot a section of the wall for a few secs and level it completely to the ground and march your army in
@ChairmanJMao9 жыл бұрын
The Man To be fair they try to balance that by greatly limiting the ammunition of the catapults.
@Sonic95059 жыл бұрын
The Man I tend to think of it as a touch of realism and game play balance. While battles to take the gate of a city are epic, they require a lot of man power. There's a reason why gates are often the most well defended areas, as you said, they're the weak spots. And honestly, making you're own gate has a sect of epic as well. The attackers rushing forward to try and use their advantage, while the defenders scramble to plug the gap.
@amituna79039 жыл бұрын
You do get a lot less ammo for siege weapons in Attila.
@rush4in9 жыл бұрын
It's official: Capture points are stupid.
@michaelvanberkum28443 жыл бұрын
In real life when you know the enemy has to be in front of you while you are defending the wall. And you see an enemy flag in the centre of the city. As a simple soldier you would lose all hope and think you lost the battle. So it would be wise to surrender. Capture points make sense. It would be stupid to fight to till everyone is dead.
@chargingnoisesintensify63353 жыл бұрын
@@michaelvanberkum2844 idea: elite units could fight until the last even if the points are taken but lower tier units could route like normal
@michaelvanberkum28443 жыл бұрын
@@chargingnoisesintensify6335 they could but still till a point. They would surrender and prefer not to die. Its the most human thing to stay alive and maybe fight another day
@chargingnoisesintensify63353 жыл бұрын
@@michaelvanberkum2844 unless theyre the general's bodyguard, then i can imagine them only fighting until it looks like the battle is SUPER lost for them
@michaelvanberkum28443 жыл бұрын
@@chargingnoisesintensify6335 generally in warfare when the enemy has control over the logistics of the enemy the enemy loses. This is because ofcourse the unit doesnt get any vital resources (like food, water, ammunition etc) So you could in this case fight on and try to get hold of your logistics again or surrender. No other option is available because that is complete self destruction. Only a human with a mental health issue will carry on (people always have feelings and are not machines) Sometimes even armys surrender wirhout even losing a single soldier. Just because they felt there was no sense in fighting This could be possible in a situation from genghis khan. He exterminated some cities and came to the next one He gave them a choice; Surrender or i will exterminate you also A lot of cities surrendered. Genghis khan didnt even control capture point..... He was just chillin oitside on his horse
@mattisnoren4847 жыл бұрын
This is where Warhammer really dropped the ball. Sieges. They had the chance to use grand fantasy-cities of the same scale as this, and then they opt for a single wall and a few streets... And the laziness in animations when towers and walls crumble... They never had a problem showing it before! Why now... *Sigh*
@christianmatthe18 жыл бұрын
They've finally made Sieges epic enough that they can live up to the Epic apocallyptic feeling that the historical accounts of sieges inspire. The sieges in Shogun had some of that but THIS is amazing. The Theodisian Walls have such a massive aura to them, I love it !!! All we need now is for Computers to get powerfull enough so we can recreate Battles full scale and actually fully man those walls with 10000 Warriors. I'm Lookin forward to it.
@stevengriffith24575 жыл бұрын
@Efe Kaya nah 10000 people online each controlling their own guy
@geoffrey1119959 жыл бұрын
Lol what? You totally won! Fuck that defeat! We all know you won.
@mattylovesallll8 жыл бұрын
I would be so salty after such a defeat. An arbitrary holding of a capture point is the most nonsensical b.s ever
@mhswarrior1209 жыл бұрын
I think this was without a doubt the most fun I've had watching a total war video, wonderful video!
@TheTrueKingJoffrey9 жыл бұрын
this was one of the most epic battles i've seen!!! how can i play one of these with you Oakley??? :o
@InvictaHistory9 жыл бұрын
I usually just host these at random times on weekeds
@olivierdevries65439 жыл бұрын
Who want to play with a young mad kind.
@matsdaenen62239 жыл бұрын
Olivier Devries don't get it :/
@matsdaenen62239 жыл бұрын
yeah....
@hywooz9 жыл бұрын
***** What does GoT stand for? Sorry if I sound dumb :/
@ParkRangerStan8 жыл бұрын
Capture points.....sigh.
@diraska8 жыл бұрын
That was a truly amazing battle. One of the best I have ever seen. You guys had a great use of the central position, separating out your enemies, and cutting off chunks of the enemy, Great stuff that reminds me of how Napoleon did things. Great quick thinking. Truly. Seriously. Great. Freaking. Battle.
@TheElMuffin9 жыл бұрын
This is more exciting to watch than any epic battle the big screen has put forth. And your commentaries are funny and illuminating.
@hdrd87 жыл бұрын
That capture at the end feels like 4th crusade all over again.
@Reconta9 жыл бұрын
The cav in this game are like the Rohan in The Return of the King. Charge directly into the front of swordsmen, kill them all without stopping, then they just keep going... and going... and going...
@feelthepony6 жыл бұрын
orcs turn out to be made of cheese,it makes sense,when you see how many any average joe can kill without trouble.
@mattfoley44259 жыл бұрын
Seeing Constantinople's walls treated like paper is absurd. Not even the Turks with their cannons could take those walls down long enough to send an army through them. The Turks got in by a door that was left unattended because of a lack of troops. In this game, a few rocks take down the most powerful walls in the history of mankind?! As Ironfoot said in the "Battle of the 5 armies" when the Orcs showed up, "Oh, come on!!"
@mortarpestle.42676 жыл бұрын
Matt Foley I'd argue the Maginot Line has stronger walls than Istanbul, what with the defense network and advent of rebar, but you are correct in that the walls are underpowered in Atilla, for balance purposes.
@hywooz9 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful video, thx man, really enjoyed it. I gotta get into these multiplayer battles myself one day.
@giwrgosroumeliwtis49389 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best siege i have ever seen!!!Great job guys nice analysis and also nice camera use!!!Keep up the good work!!
@crazymonkey190719079 жыл бұрын
Very good commentary, very nice battle!Thanks!
@juniorbatista41079 жыл бұрын
Most epic siege battle I've ever seen. Can't believe you lost great video. Keep em coming
@Atilla_the_Fun9 жыл бұрын
Junior Batista it was great I agree. Constantinople always has its charm.
@SuperTonganninja8 жыл бұрын
the was amazing tactical fight ! the amount of fought you guys put into this was crazy ! good work guys
@mattn40708 жыл бұрын
I NEVER used cavalry INSIDE a city until now. Hats off to you, oakley and indypride. I'm impressed
@bugsymelone39 жыл бұрын
Constantinople could've used you guys back then
@CollinBuckman9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe the Ottomans wouldn't have taken the city if these two were in charge of the Byzantine forces. :p
@RKNGL9 жыл бұрын
Collin Buckman Well Constantinople was a shadow of its former self after the excommunicated crusaders sacked it. A lot of it was destroyed so similar to this.
@berkayyldz79809 жыл бұрын
bugsymelone3 not Constantinople İstanbul a real name
@RKNGL9 жыл бұрын
Berkay Yıldız Since Constantinople was the name before Istanbul. It is just as real if not more real. Even though Londinium is now London doesn't mean that the name wasn't real.
@berkayyldz79809 жыл бұрын
but some show respect new name please
@Shinz.907 жыл бұрын
soooooooo epiiiiiiiiiiiiic the music the atmosphere .. thank u for this awesome battle
@kevlarburrito66939 жыл бұрын
At 11:07 that is not a counter charge you perform, that's a tactical feint. Counter charging is charging a force that is charging you. Stopping a charge and changing direction in order to lure a force in, is a feint.
@catcalliope37379 жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL great job Oakley!
@dread53809 жыл бұрын
wooow just wooow! Amazing video! But victory points just ruin sieges... I do like capture points but not the victory points...
@catcalliope37379 жыл бұрын
I don't think it ruined the siege, it added a serious and important strategic element to the battle. As implemented it doesn't make much sense realistically, but it's not much of a stretch to imagine that by holding the victory point they achieved some other strategic goal-- like taking the emperor hostage. I definitely agree that it makes little sense but it adds a much appreciated strategic element to the game. If Oakley/Indy hadn't concentrated all their forces on one side, they could have opposed the taking of the point, whereas the enemy chose to concentrate on the point as an objective. IMHO it made this battle more interesting than the pike v pike standoff it could have devolved into otherwise with neither side willing to risk casualties. All this being said I think timer countdown should be blocked by having any units in its area, not just a majority. That's an anticlimactic end.
@catcalliope37379 жыл бұрын
That would be pretty sweet... There's a lot of ways CA could come up with adding a new and potent strategic element to the game and make it more flavorful than this.
@leetommerson6399 жыл бұрын
I'm butthurt about the ending Why is there a countdown with capture points? Why not just go with last army alive?
@MJFAN6669 жыл бұрын
DAMN!!!!!!!! Amazing battle! Unreal ending man! So close
@alantejohnson49279 жыл бұрын
i've never really watched one of these videos before but even i could see the odds they were up against and how amazing this whole battle was
@smithpeter36294 жыл бұрын
"What will it be, young master?" "Someone resembling my mother, please".
@kaylew1089 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome battle. Damn you guys played that very well lol
@MrJodenkoek19 жыл бұрын
Very nice battle, i enjoyed this video alot!!!
@allansimonsen54859 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video really fun to watch:)
@AedenAeducan9 жыл бұрын
I really like those siege battles :3 Personally, I prefere using spear units as defenders because they can hold their ground for quite some time and the towers can shoot them down, but in a battle this massive not the best idea :). The towers are really strong especially when you're starting a new campaign, 1 tower = 1 unit and thats just overpowered. Can't wait for the next video ! ^-^
@dutchguywaffle47059 жыл бұрын
this was osme amazing stratagizing!
@nsil52329 жыл бұрын
I like the siege escalation but it should only be present around the walls/perimeter and it should only occur if the enemy has projectile siege equipment as to mimic being bombarded, why would the Hagia Sophia be completely destroyed, it makes no sense Also if it was blockaded it would make sense for the dock area to be burned down Also onagers are waaaay to op, its really dumb how they take out entire sections of wall in no time at all, i want to see fighting on top of my walls, not just in holes through the walls
@Norha8209 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Oakley
@CapitaoColhao9 жыл бұрын
Amazing battle, really nice job!!
@SwiftFate9 жыл бұрын
Such an awesome battle but capture points are still bullshit. Taking a point like that shouldn't be an automatic win if they hold it for a couple minutes. At the MOST it should be a severe moral debuff but when the defenders still have decent numbers and especially if their general is still alive, the battle should go on.
@M0T498 жыл бұрын
wow, this is truly an epic battle. Watched it all 41 minutes.
@Miketo20009 жыл бұрын
I personally think I more organic way to integrate the victory point capture feature is to, instead of causing the defending army to instantly lose the game once the timer runs out, have the defending army suffer debuffs in morale/melee defense/attack and have the debuffs become more and more severe as time goes on. That way the defending army would still stand a chance, and the attacker can't use cheap tactics (not saying this game was cheap, it was pretty epic) to capture the victory with a single unit, and then win even if they are severely outnumbered in the end.
@thehunter48736 жыл бұрын
MichaelXC I know this is a old comment but the reason the capture point is there is because people used to just run away so it would end in a draw
@THExROYSTER8 жыл бұрын
Truly intense as anything I've ever seen.
@KaiHonsou9 жыл бұрын
Any plans for a Patreon account? Would be great seeing more of the Historical videos of battles and periods of this history.
@MJFAN6669 жыл бұрын
hey can you do naval assault with one guy and then 2 on land and 2 defending or something?? Thanks! Could be any city, perhaps you could showcase carthage or something!
@Todasul479 жыл бұрын
you both exploited the enemies mistakes perfectly even though you had all those disadvantages and yes, if you had 5 seconds more...still an amazing battle, showing that even if it looks bad....you can make something out of it :D
@makiiavely9 жыл бұрын
I fucking hate capture points, like it's so dumb, you win a fucking siege by simply sending a few ninjas to ocuppy the main city plaza. It could perfectly give you a big ass morale penalty and nothing else. Great vid by the way, the best total war sieges are in your channel dude :)
@jjkk119999332222336 жыл бұрын
oh my God you lost! Come on, mate, always protect the victory point, you certainly took your time sending you guys to guard it.
@dudley2far3629 жыл бұрын
love your videos
@Ecripter18 жыл бұрын
Hi, I really liked your video, it was epic well done. I just wanted to know if they fixed unit shudder in attila. Because I know in rome 2 it was impossible to do these battles because of units shudder.
@TJMuas8 жыл бұрын
For 2v3 you guys did real good. If it was 3v3 the enemy would never had made it as far as they did.
@pinkysuspegasus9 жыл бұрын
Epic video!!! Althought I really hated meelee attack penalty for your men. I thing that it is too much for defender to handle.
@marvelfannumber17 жыл бұрын
"I love all the attention they put into *Ravenna* and some of the unique cities" Are you kidding me? Ravenna looks nothing like it did in real life and has none of the Roman monuments that still exist. Mausoleum of Galla Placidia? Nope. Neonian Baptistery? Nope. Neonian Basilica? Nope. Valentinian Palace? Nope. The basilica of St. John the Evangelist? Nope. Why even bother making a unique map for Ravenna if they're not even going to put in any of the landmarks.
@DBoy12729 жыл бұрын
KEEP DOING THIS BROOO.. YOUR VIDEOS ARE FUCKING AMAZING BRO SERIOUSLY
@biggles2584 жыл бұрын
I've been lucky enough to spend some time in Istanbul, staying near the Blue Mosque and the Hagia Sophia. It felt really strange watching this battle play out over the same ground.
@alkisvasileiou39549 жыл бұрын
The battle is massive, I wonder what is your pc configuration and what are your graphics settings.
@olivierdevries65439 жыл бұрын
Awesome siege. I agree with the other guy , one the most awesome siege on youtube. Does he have a channel ?
@kathic64029 жыл бұрын
These videos make me feel bad about my new computer.
@ll0612319 жыл бұрын
loved this siege battle! hope to see more like this :)
@tudorbaloiu95858 жыл бұрын
At min 21:32, if you watch the right side, a guy just falls off his horse without even making contact with the enemy unit, kek :D.
@ltamez26359 жыл бұрын
You should should find out what devastation to a huge city you can do using all seige weapons
@milos950929 жыл бұрын
wow ur strategy is soooooo good
@beroyabaird91049 жыл бұрын
I would register that battle as victory for you and Indie because their timer forced "victory" just excists on paper, it's just a bureaucratic victory they don't deserve compared to you :D
@mattfoley44259 жыл бұрын
There seemed to be an awful lot of units just sitting there doing nothing. Can you please explain why from my perspective that would be the case?
@technician1229 жыл бұрын
For centuries constantanople's great moat and 2 lines of walls kept it from being overrun by its enemies for centuries
@JK_29989 жыл бұрын
Beat by the capture point, damn Total War....
@Samrg7779 жыл бұрын
lmao, "Can they break through those pike men in time?!??? Find out next week on DBZ"
@playboipatrick8 жыл бұрын
i know my history so wasn't the ottoman empire suppose to capture the city
@tannerdenny54304 жыл бұрын
The weak walls in total war pisses me off. They should be muuuuch harder to kill
@BlueskKulls9 жыл бұрын
you guys remember the bridge meat grinder from rome 1? one troop of pikes against an entire army of anything... it was such a great fun :D
@mogadishusneeze9 жыл бұрын
THIS...WAS...AWESOME!!!
@johnmcgrath88469 жыл бұрын
Love historical battles!!
@KiljiArslan9 жыл бұрын
19:20 Really does make me think of the charge of Rohan in RoTK.
@owmycheek8 жыл бұрын
That battle was amazing hot damn
@bvillafuerte765 Жыл бұрын
Good video.
@eoinmeenaghan92469 жыл бұрын
Does shock cav have any usability in ATILLA?
@cato12139 жыл бұрын
We all know you won, Oakley.
@son_of_caesar89089 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable! You guys smashed them! 2 v 3, with all the negative buffs from having a destroyed city!?! Amazing job guys! You're right, in real life, the enemy wouldn't have won. I think the idea of a victory point is a little weird. They should all be capture-points with moral buffs instead of ruining a hard-fought battle by ending the game. Regardless, the enemy made huge mistakes by separating their forces like they did. But you guys took advantage of the error and gave them a hellish fight they probably thought would be easy! Excellent!
@Soripheal9 жыл бұрын
they still had to break through the pikes with no ammo. so there was a small chance they would of won.
@son_of_caesar89089 жыл бұрын
I just think the Victory point thing is a little unrealistic. Just kinda breaks the immersion. But I get what you're saying. Getting through the pikes would've been really hard. I was glad when they took the victory points out of Rome II and just did the moral bonus capture points. I guess they both have their pros and cons though.
@muha8718 жыл бұрын
The capture countdown cause much butt hurt, was there such thing in the original rome total war? Btw the video is entertaining, feel like this kind of multiplayer could be some sort of Esport.
@YoungMusicalRebel8 жыл бұрын
That would be akward a city defends there city and the enemy only has like 200 men and you have like 12,000 and you come to kill them and they are like "No! No! We got the capture point! We won!" And your guys are just like oh yea they got lets surrender boys
@racer78689 жыл бұрын
I want to see the battles live. Not replays explained.
@brandonf246 жыл бұрын
This...this is why I've always hated the capture points that can end a game. Strategic capture points sure, but not those that can win someone a game within minutes.
@leetommerson6399 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck, did they actually put the besieging armies encirclement's into the game?
@BifronsCandle9 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Siege of Minas Tirith. Anyway, Attila looks like the best Total War game when it comes to sieges. I loved Rome and Med 2 but it was hard to maneuver and siege assaults turned into moshpits.
@fizzypurple54959 жыл бұрын
Hey Oakley, would you ever consider doing a unit overview for certain factions? Also, do you think it's weird that in the faction selection screen the Saxons have an awesome looking axe unit, however it doesn't actually exist in game?
@InvictaHistory9 жыл бұрын
I'm not very big on diving into the minutia of unit stats nor does it interest me too much so I'll leave that sort of vid for others.
@fizzypurple54959 жыл бұрын
Alrighty fair enough
@silverrush25089 жыл бұрын
Maximus Decimus Meridius is the reigning authority on this topic. It's quite incredible how quickly he's made a name for himself and become very relevant to the community. I also think it's really cool how THFE, Darren, Maximus, Sun Jetzu and some of the others have not tried to move into the already crowded space of LP's and have specialized into their own niches.
@Farazormal19 жыл бұрын
Yossi Singer oh, maximus decimus meridius is a content creator! i thought it was a joke by indypride about the movie gladiator
@Adamm423109 жыл бұрын
How do you get this type of strategy out of this game? Im pretty nooby at total war games despite having damn near every title. When i play though it seems like the ai always just clumps up and charges randomly.
@charvet20139 жыл бұрын
Oh hey. Im in that game... my buddy just showed this to me, sweet. I got my ass kicked.
@christian806459 жыл бұрын
How would play as the huns. I am really struggling
@KiljiArslan9 жыл бұрын
Escalation really is so Metal.
@zachhayward51429 жыл бұрын
I feel as though this would have been more interesting at escalation I, because then the ERE probably would have had a better chance. 3v2 on escalation II seems kind of easy for the attackers
@cooterSwampgrass9 жыл бұрын
any idea of when the blood pack is coming?
@TerryWong123459 жыл бұрын
historically it has 2 or 3 layers of reli reli reli thick walls, its epic i think its the best defensed city every at that time
@billalhossainfrancis76854 жыл бұрын
Wonderful
@willburr85519 жыл бұрын
Can you get these camera angles in game whilst playing Rome 2?
@atotalwar68376 жыл бұрын
Will Burr its Attila
@andreimadaras71379 жыл бұрын
Perhaps breaking the defectors instead of the archers would have allowed you to move in earlier and contest the point.
@crannage969 жыл бұрын
How did he get the wooden walls on the attackers side?
@shirothegamer75746 жыл бұрын
Definitely better than warhammer. Warhammer needs to look this cool.
@nevertrusasmurf9 жыл бұрын
Late antiquity is the most interesting period in history!
@flappiestflapper37528 жыл бұрын
How do you switch the unit icons off and on
@vitorion0079 жыл бұрын
16:12 - in real life, you would still be able to flank those pikemen, as you would send your men through the buildings, arriving at their left flank. It is a shame that buildings are instead an obstacle in Total War, as historically, city battles would take place even in narrow places between the buildings.
@Thecgarbros9 жыл бұрын
im getting low framerate on this game on quality settings anyone answer this AMD FX-6300 3.5Ghz 8gb RAM R9 270 2gb 500psu Is anything bottlenecking or is it poor optimizing?