The city was sacked during the 4th crusade, due to the fact the empire was too corrupt and weak. If they actually had decent amount of defenders they could pushed back the crusaders :(

Indeed the city was corrupt but the sack of Constantinople wasnt due too the lack of defenders . The Crusaders , too pay the Venetian ships to make the crusade needed to take Constantinople because of an old rivalry between the venetian dogme and the emperor of Constantinople.After having sacked the city to the ground and killed thousands of innocent people the crusaders were finally excommunicated by the pope.

you both totally dont understand what happened king alexios of byzantine empire promised crusaders to give them money IF they helped them take the throne they actually helped him but then alexios didnt gave them money then alexios was removed from king by his rivals so crusaders were left at constadinopole with out money,ships and the promise that alexios gave them at the end they wanted their money and constadinopole fell

Alexios IV did try to give them money. The imperial treasury just did not have enough to pay his promise. He did raise some money to try to give to the crusaders but it was not enough. When he was getting unpopular with the greek cititzens, Alexios IV sent Alexios Doukas to reconcile with the crusaders. Instead Alexios Doukas imprisoned Alexios IV and his father Isaac II and most likely killed them. He was then crowned Alexios V.

lol no another king took his throne

milkandcookiesTW This sucks all we have are 2 duffs,yapping it up, how tge hell does this shit get on you tube.

Bob Martin so much salt, my mouth is dry

123captainrex I agree. In my mind they won.

+Pommit But they didn't, enemy captured and murdered the emperor. That's how I see the capture point, think of it like chess.

JonatasAdoM true

9/10 times the emperor would've bailed the city before the battle even started. So i dont see it that way

Julius CaesarII how about they took all the civilians hostage since they’d be in the town centre

he was in siege escalation 2

I know that but even if everything is fresh, no debuffs and walls with 0% damage etc. just shoot a section of the wall for a few secs and level it completely to the ground and march your army in

The Man To be fair they try to balance that by greatly limiting the ammunition of the catapults.

The Man I tend to think of it as a touch of realism and game play balance. While battles to take the gate of a city are epic, they require a lot of man power. There's a reason why gates are often the most well defended areas, as you said, they're the weak spots. And honestly, making you're own gate has a sect of epic as well. The attackers rushing forward to try and use their advantage, while the defenders scramble to plug the gap.

You do get a lot less ammo for siege weapons in Attila.

In real life when you know the enemy has to be in front of you while you are defending the wall. And you see an enemy flag in the centre of the city. As a simple soldier you would lose all hope and think you lost the battle. So it would be wise to surrender. Capture points make sense. It would be stupid to fight to till everyone is dead.

@@michaelvanberkum2844 idea: elite units could fight until the last even if the points are taken but lower tier units could route like normal

@@chargingnoisesintensify6335 they could but still till a point. They would surrender and prefer not to die. Its the most human thing to stay alive and maybe fight another day

@@michaelvanberkum2844 unless theyre the general's bodyguard, then i can imagine them only fighting until it looks like the battle is SUPER lost for them

@@chargingnoisesintensify6335 generally in warfare when the enemy has control over the logistics of the enemy the enemy loses. This is because ofcourse the unit doesnt get any vital resources (like food, water, ammunition etc) So you could in this case fight on and try to get hold of your logistics again or surrender. No other option is available because that is complete self destruction. Only a human with a mental health issue will carry on (people always have feelings and are not machines) Sometimes even armys surrender wirhout even losing a single soldier. Just because they felt there was no sense in fighting This could be possible in a situation from genghis khan. He exterminated some cities and came to the next one He gave them a choice; Surrender or i will exterminate you also A lot of cities surrendered. Genghis khan didnt even control capture point..... He was just chillin oitside on his horse

@Efe Kaya nah 10000 people online each controlling their own guy

I would be so salty after such a defeat. An arbitrary holding of a capture point is the most nonsensical b.s ever

I usually just host these at random times on weekeds

Who want to play with a young mad kind.

Olivier Devries don't get it :/

yeah....

***** What does GoT stand for? Sorry if I sound dumb :/

orcs turn out to be made of cheese,it makes sense,when you see how many any average joe can kill without trouble.

Matt Foley I'd argue the Maginot Line has stronger walls than Istanbul, what with the defense network and advent of rebar, but you are correct in that the walls are underpowered in Atilla, for balance purposes.

Junior Batista it was great I agree. Constantinople always has its charm.

Yeah, maybe the Ottomans wouldn't have taken the city if these two were in charge of the Byzantine forces. :p

Collin Buckman Well Constantinople was a shadow of its former self after the excommunicated crusaders sacked it. A lot of it was destroyed so similar to this.

bugsymelone3 not Constantinople İstanbul a real name

Berkay Yıldız Since Constantinople was the name before Istanbul. It is just as real if not more real. Even though Londinium is now London doesn't mean that the name wasn't real.

but some show respect new name please

I don't think it ruined the siege, it added a serious and important strategic element to the battle. As implemented it doesn't make much sense realistically, but it's not much of a stretch to imagine that by holding the victory point they achieved some other strategic goal-- like taking the emperor hostage. I definitely agree that it makes little sense but it adds a much appreciated strategic element to the game. If Oakley/Indy hadn't concentrated all their forces on one side, they could have opposed the taking of the point, whereas the enemy chose to concentrate on the point as an objective. IMHO it made this battle more interesting than the pike v pike standoff it could have devolved into otherwise with neither side willing to risk casualties. All this being said I think timer countdown should be blocked by having any units in its area, not just a majority. That's an anticlimactic end.

That would be pretty sweet... There's a lot of ways CA could come up with adding a new and potent strategic element to the game and make it more flavorful than this.

MichaelXC I know this is a old comment but the reason the capture point is there is because people used to just run away so it would end in a draw

they still had to break through the pikes with no ammo. so there was a small chance they would of won.

I just think the Victory point thing is a little unrealistic. Just kinda breaks the immersion. But I get what you're saying. Getting through the pikes would've been really hard. I was glad when they took the victory points out of Rome II and just did the moral bonus capture points. I guess they both have their pros and cons though.

That would be akward a city defends there city and the enemy only has like 200 men and you have like 12,000 and you come to kill them and they are like "No! No! We got the capture point! We won!" And your guys are just like oh yea they got lets surrender boys

I'm not very big on diving into the minutia of unit stats nor does it interest me too much so I'll leave that sort of vid for others.

Alrighty fair enough

Maximus Decimus Meridius is the reigning authority on this topic. It's quite incredible how quickly he's made a name for himself and become very relevant to the community. I also think it's really cool how THFE, Darren, Maximus, Sun Jetzu and some of the others have not tried to move into the already crowded space of LP's and have specialized into their own niches.

Yossi Singer oh, maximus decimus meridius is a content creator! i thought it was a joke by indypride about the movie gladiator

Will Burr its Attila