The Diesel Story - How the EU Pretended to Fight Climate Change While Poisoning its Citizens

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Have you ever wondered why diesel car sales experienced a boom in Europe but nowhere else in the world?
To answer this we must begin way back in 1973, with the first oil crisis which occurred the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries or OPEC initiated a total oil embargo. The result was a shock and dramatic shortage of crude oil that caused the price of a barrel of oil and derived products to increase by 300% shortly after the embargo was put into place.
The problem with the European oil processing industry in the years after the 1973 oil crisis was that they no longer had buyers for their heavy distillates because the energy generation and heating systems of Europe had transitioned to other sources.
But oil refineries weren’t the only ones impacted by the oil crisis. Vehicle manufacturers also suffered because the dramatic increase in fuel prices lead to a dramatic decrease in car sales.
So manufacturers sought to offer buyers more fuel efficient alternatives in the form of vehicles with diesel engines which are naturally more fuel efficient than their gasoline counterparts. The main reasons behind this being that diesel engines naturally operate at noticeably higher compression ratios, they don’t need a homogenous air fuel mixture and don’t require a throttle body to function which means that they can run at very lean air fuel ratios and don’t suffer from pumping losses.
Faced with reduced taxation, improved fuel economy and better performance and driveability in the real world many buyers started started switching to diesel engined cars. If we look at the data it becomes obvious how dieselisation was never a matter of user preference or different tastes in Europe and the US or other countries. If we compare Japan and Europe we can observe very similar low rates of diesel share in the market. The markets only start diverging when European legislation started strongly favoring diesels and creating incentives for buyers. If we observe Europe on a country by country basis we can see that diesel adoption is highest in countries like France for example where legislation and taxation was very favourabnle for diesels.
But initially it appeared thst the mass dieselisation of the vehicle market was a win for everyone in Europe. Oil refineries got a market for their products. Consumers got better cars. Car makers got profits. C02 emissions got reduced. Almost sounds too good to be true. .Well pretty soon it became clear that it indeed all was too good to be true because as time moved on and emissions standards became more stringent it became evident that getting diesel engines to meet new emissions standards was far harder than it was originally envisaged by the Auto Oil 1 and 2 programmes.
And so Manufacturers started reducing the compression ratio of diesel engines to reduce nitrogen oxide emissions. Which sort of defeats the purpose of a diesel engine because reducing the compression ratio also reduced efficiency and power output. To restore power manufacturers increased the boost pressure from the turbocharger which lead to increased C02 emissions which ultimately resulted in equivalent diesel and petrol engines having pretty much the same power output and the same C02 emissions.
But in 2015 it became evident just how far manufacturers were stretching the truth when it was discovered that VW had to cheat to meet US emissions tests. They reprogrammed their diesel vehicles to be able to detect when they are undergoing emissions testing and then run the engine in a reduced performance mode in order to generate reduced emissions and pass the test. When not being tested and driven in normal conditions the vehicles were actually emitting 14 times more nitrogen oxides then the allowable US limit and 3 times more than the Euro 5 emissions standard.
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00:00 Why so many Diesel cars in Europe?
01:02 Oil Crisis
03:38 Refineries have a problem
05:36 Oil prices go UP, Car sales go DOWN
08:51 Creating the Justification
11:30 Changing the Legislation
16:53 The Scandal
20:55 The Aftermath
24:23 Have We Learned Our Lesson?

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@jackbrown3689
@jackbrown3689 19 күн бұрын
how about a breakdown of vegetable oil conversions possibly an environmentally better use for those old diesels
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 19 күн бұрын
I seems that the green trend just means money trend, I wonder if it applies to today's EVs
@conodigrom
@conodigrom 19 күн бұрын
You should do a separate video with how Euro regulations, FAP and GPF filters and environmental sensors work. It's basically a scam where to lower the count of smaller and smaller particulate diameter we make tighter and tighter filters(FAP and GPF) to lower the average diameter below that threshold. We're making smaller and smaller unmeasured particulate and then we inhale it, proud of our eco-achievements!
@SeaJay_Oceans
@SeaJay_Oceans 19 күн бұрын
Only Bicycles & horses are biocompatable. Depopulation and Genocide of Europeans is the direct result of toxifying the environmemt.. All the farm shutdowns, fuel & power elimination, and World War 3 planning of NATO is part of Great Reset 2030 Event 2:1 50% population reduction plan developed in the 1990s by the eugenicists & globalists. Battery vehicles burn very hot & leaking batteries add toxins to water supplies. The Grstapo Censorship of real threats destroying human life and pousoning nature and our environmemt demonstrates collusion to commit hate crimes against humanity. Whuch is why censorship is evil.
@KenFullman
@KenFullman 19 күн бұрын
Here in the UK our government is trying to convince us that the drive for EVs is to save the environment. Yet at the same time, if we get a bicycle and fit an electric motor to it, we're breaking the law if that motor is capable of propelling the bicycle without peddling. Surely if they want to save the planet, they'd rather have us ride a bicycle with a tiny electric motor than a gas guzzling car. Apparently not.
@mattmattmatt131313
@mattmattmatt131313 15 күн бұрын
"I'm old enough to remember when paper bags were being blamed for the destruction of trees, and plastic bags were the solution." comes to mind.
@mro9466
@mro9466 15 күн бұрын
Diesel polluted the air. Now it's time to pollute the earth with dead batteries!
@vargaszilard2425
@vargaszilard2425 14 күн бұрын
This sentence is so spot on.
@volvoproblems3567
@volvoproblems3567 14 күн бұрын
Ah, the old big Oil 'Look over there technique' Provide a solution that isn't a solution so you look like you are working towards tomorrow.
@nicknevco215
@nicknevco215 14 күн бұрын
That crazy just like the 70's ice age scare
@jannikheidemann3805
@jannikheidemann3805 14 күн бұрын
Truth is, single use bags are the problem. Washable bags made from cotton or even better linnen or hemp would help to save a lot more trees and CO2. Euro notes are made out of that kind of material. They only take minimal wear damage from a ride in a washing machine and come out clean and sterile.
@therealfakecaptain7978
@therealfakecaptain7978 19 күн бұрын
French Government 25 years ago : just buy a diesel bro, it's the real shit bro, it's super clean bro. French Government now : wow you're buying a diesel ? Are you trying to kill the planet or something ? Here, pay those extra fees you monster.
@lsswappedcessna
@lsswappedcessna 18 күн бұрын
european governments: "ew you polluting monster, here's a morbillion euro fine for being a total piece of shit" european governments: *doing away with nuclear for whatever reason* european government officials: *flying across town in their private jet to get groceries because they don't want to be stuck in the same traffic or use the same stores as PEASANTS!*
@Kevin-mx4vm
@Kevin-mx4vm 18 күн бұрын
French citizen: yes daddy 😞
@FeelFree3
@FeelFree3 18 күн бұрын
While the government built massive nuclear plants, LOL.
@victormiguelmontero136
@victormiguelmontero136 18 күн бұрын
​@@FeelFree3 nuclear energy is the cleanest source of energy, sometimes even compared to renewable energy due to their effect on the surrounding or short life span
@gg2324
@gg2324 18 күн бұрын
we got fucked hard with the tax hikes on diesel and the crit'air bullshit and now they've also increased taxes on ethanol, it used to be arround 0.80€ now it's around 1.3€
@Eebens
@Eebens 14 күн бұрын
older diesel cars (before dpf, adblue etc.) were perhaps the greatest thing the car and oil lobbyists achieved in terms of customer satisfaction. Back in the day the existence of cheap and reliable diesel cars literally helped people avoid poverty.
@fredfred2363
@fredfred2363 13 күн бұрын
So completely true!
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong 13 күн бұрын
even back then small petrol / gasoline powered cars cost much less than diesels people bought diesel bc of the torque from the turbocharger, not bc of cost
@toshobg
@toshobg 13 күн бұрын
^ this. also I think diesel was cheaper 20-30 years ago and there were diesel cars with less consumption per km.
@tsugumorihoney2288
@tsugumorihoney2288 13 күн бұрын
@@toshobg so in early 2000s diesel cost like 10-20% less then gasoline, and car consumption were like another 20-40% less
@chrispark4310
@chrispark4310 13 күн бұрын
Yup, cars which lasted, no much maintenance and economical.
@mebeasensei
@mebeasensei 13 күн бұрын
I argued this for years but people were deaf. Once sold they were invested and never wanted to hear another word. Rational discussion was impossible
@MajorT0m
@MajorT0m 12 күн бұрын
Reminds me of another rational discussion we weren't allowed to have in the last three or four years.
@TekAutomatica
@TekAutomatica 12 күн бұрын
24 years 400,000+ km almost 100 mpg on diesel or even better #hvo still works fine unlike modem SUV diesel, hybrid and EV inefficient machines.
@Zanduras1
@Zanduras1 12 күн бұрын
@@MajorT0m Yeah just amazing how logic and reason are tossed aside if it's against the "official narrative" pushed by the news media.
@ArifGhostwriter
@ArifGhostwriter 12 күн бұрын
You can't argue with Stupid - which unfortunately is most people.
@vlc-cosplayer
@vlc-cosplayer 10 күн бұрын
@@ArifGhostwriter "Boy, everyone is stupid except me!" (Homer Simpson)
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature 19 күн бұрын
I had a Peugeot 306 petrol 1.6 which had extraordinarily low emissions. At every MOT test it had 0.00% hydrocarbons and 0.00% carbon monoxide. I asked the MOT tester if they were using a faulty test machine, but he assured me it was fully calibrated. And the same at another garage too. But I occasionally drove into London. Because the car was too old, I would have to pay the clean air penalty. I contacted TFL and sent them a scan of the MOT test results. But they were completely unhelpful and illogical. So I bought a newer car that was permitted into the clean air zone. The irony is that the newer car does have higher emissions. Still quite low, but not zero. But because it was in a higher emissions category (simply because it was built at a later date) it is allowed into the zone. Madness really.
@nicky5185
@nicky5185 19 күн бұрын
I wonder whether re-registering the car and going through all the certification steps would allow you to keep the car and not having to pay ULEZ.
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature 19 күн бұрын
@@nicky5185 I sold the car 5 years ago. But yes TFL told me that the manufacturer would need to re-certify it at the higher emissions standard. But why would they for a car they no longer manufactured? The point is that I had proof that the car was very low polluting but TFL were unable to acknowledge the proof that I gave them. Scans of several MOT test results. I never had a car with zero pollutants before or since. The garage mechanic said that engine was very good regarding harmful emissions. I refuse to have a diesel car, due to them being smelly. I have never owned one.
@ankhlee6283
@ankhlee6283 19 күн бұрын
Well, you just did what was desired to do. Ditch a property you already own in order to buy a new one. Buying things is good for governments, specially cars, as it shows a good economy.
@imrileth6618
@imrileth6618 18 күн бұрын
Damn, hearing all the weird car tax schemes from around the europe makes me appreciate finlands car taxing. Gasoline cars are really favored here in taxing and it doesnt make that much difference if its old or new. 1.4liter 1999 gas car has 250€ per year and my 1.6 2013 peugeot is taxed at 200€. And 2.1liter diesel from 2004 is taxed at 710€.
@MagalaxeurDETER
@MagalaxeurDETER 18 күн бұрын
You are also living in a place where you're allowed to get a hybrid porsche cayenne with twin turbo V8 and 800hp, without worrying for entering in the zero emission areas or paying additional taxes. But if you're just a loser who can only afford a 10 years old 308 diesel, then you're the worst criminal.
@WeisswindDragon
@WeisswindDragon 19 күн бұрын
"I hope that this time around the governments are motivated by the interest of their citizens and environment" That's a good one 😂
@jansebesta3112
@jansebesta3112 19 күн бұрын
They are not. In this case, they tried to help European manufacturers against cheap chinese competition. But it already shows this doesn't work, as for electric vehicles, there is not much know-how to be transferred from ICE vehicles production and so it was even easier for the Chinese to overtake us in this as well.
@classicalextremism
@classicalextremism 18 күн бұрын
Ya, I was going to say "keep hoping and dreaming". You'd think the lesson to be learned was not to trust the experts and politicians, but instead trust the wisdom of the masses. But no, lets subsidize slave labor in cobalt mines to finance a new generation of wealth transfer as we build a new and redundant energy system that accomplishes nothing but waste.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 18 күн бұрын
Governments only listen to Isreal
@mry82
@mry82 18 күн бұрын
yep :(
@workdesu
@workdesu 18 күн бұрын
i really lol'ed at that one 😂😂💀
@Stuie444
@Stuie444 9 күн бұрын
Taxes, profits, and corporate lobbying - it always goes back to taxes, profits, and lobbying...
@sicka
@sicka 2 күн бұрын
EU blaming the Diesel engine for CO2 emissions, while their politicians fly from Bruxelles to Strasbourg three times a week with a jet.
@Zippsterman
@Zippsterman 18 күн бұрын
Those nuclear power protests in Germany are such a weird thing to think about now that nuclear has proven itself to be hugely safer and more environmentally friendly than any fossil fuel
@d4a
@d4a 18 күн бұрын
Im not against nor pro nuclear, but it's uindeaniable that the safety of nuclear was achieved partly by learning from very expensive and very painful mistakes with very long-lasting consequences. The ever increasing safety standards have made nuclear power far more expensive and complex than it used to be. As most things, it's too complicated to draw simple conclusions.
@derbruzzler7574
@derbruzzler7574 18 күн бұрын
It may be weird for some , but imagine if the wind blew in direction of tokyo when Fukushima blew up. This conversation would be a different one. The other thing is, mushrooms and wild animals where i live are still contaminated with C137 from Tchernobyl to this day. Maybe this changes the point of view on this topic. Sure its clean when everything goes as planned, and is handled responsively. But the accidents in the past and the horrible pollution in some countries show how its handled in the real world.
@mskiptr
@mskiptr 18 күн бұрын
It's hilarious that coal plants emit way more radioactivity to the environment than nuclear plants
@IvoStunga
@IvoStunga 18 күн бұрын
@@derbruzzler7574 It'd be interesting to compare - one nuclear accident output of harm Vs daily harm from burning consumables for hundreds of years globally. Nuclear with all of Fukushima's, Chernobyl's and Kyshtym's could still be greener, although having a devastating and very noticeable effect on immediate surroundings. More harm from nuclear has come from poor management and competency, rather than the nucleus itself.
@rian0xFFF
@rian0xFFF 18 күн бұрын
While China going hard to get fusion nuclear energy, almost free energy
@mystery_pond
@mystery_pond 19 күн бұрын
I find it a shame that consumers who purchased diesel cars in the last 20 years are now punished by governments with extra charges for low-emission zones due to the governments' own failure to ensure that suitable regulations were in place for these vehicles. This has especially disrupted the second-hand market here in the UK; 5-20 year old diesels are cheap and can be found a dime a dozen, while a huge number of petrol cars from the same period have doubled, tripled or more in price as the supply slowly dwindles away as they all move to London, its surrounding areas, and other cities beginning to implement LEZs. (Edited to add) As people seem to have resorted to attacking me with insults in the replies, I would like to mention: First, I have always driven petrol and have no desire past or future to drive a diesel. Second, even if that weren't the case, throwing around insults provides zero value to the discussion, so before writing one I suggest that you instead spend your time reflecting on the reality in which we all live. Should mistakes be treated with empathy and openly discussed with the aim of learning and improvement, or should they be ridiculed, publicly decrying those who made them, for nothing but a good ego-stroking?
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 19 күн бұрын
That's great for us country bumpkins tho. Can pick up a diesel Bentley for a couple thou
@hansturpyn5455
@hansturpyn5455 19 күн бұрын
Secundhand Diesels are extremely underpriced now, do to the higher taxes on them. The market equels itself out. For now we have the luxury to buy old diesels from 10-15-20years back but we will run out of them in 5-10 years and then we will be fucked. So buy one and store it if you can for the future. Price and demand will skyrocket.
@jakebatty530
@jakebatty530 19 күн бұрын
It's indeed sad how the governments fuck up has affect so many people negatively I had a crash in march and had to go look for another car, I have only ever driven petrols Anyway I was considering getting a VW Scirocco as a friend used to have one and it was really nice, went well, looked good etc, that was a 2.0 petrol So I went online set filters to VW Scirocco with roughly 80 mile radius from me and then had a look There were I think a little more than 100 results for listings, and out of them, maybe 10 or so were petrol, and they were all older, non newer than 2010 and higher mileage, over 100k the diesels were a mix of decent milage, like 60-110k and newer year, between I think 2008 and 2015 I then looked at other makes and models and realised people are clearly having to get rid of their non ulez compliant diesel
@mystery_pond
@mystery_pond 19 күн бұрын
@@jakebatty530 Yep, that's exactly what I'm worried about. I've also only ever driven petrols and it's only a matter of time before my old car breaks down or is written off in a crash, and I shudder to think of having to go through the same thing. Hopefully you can find a decent one for an okay-ish price.
@uosiumen
@uosiumen 19 күн бұрын
That sucks, but how do you want to get rid of NOx emissions while NOx emitters are favoured?
@jdm1066
@jdm1066 14 күн бұрын
10-20 Years from now we will be saying the same things about the fervor for EV's.
@Xizario2
@Xizario2 12 күн бұрын
Yes. Video does not to talk about what USA do with their diesel if the cars are not using it. They still extract it from the oil and they burn it in power plants. So their electric cars run on diesel(and coal). And same will happen in Europe.
@churchofmarcus
@churchofmarcus 12 күн бұрын
@@Xizario2 Stop it. The EV in my garage is powered by the solar on my roof.
@Xizario2
@Xizario2 12 күн бұрын
@@churchofmarcus so you burned the diesel in advance at the factory of panels, ok, I got it.
@churchofmarcus
@churchofmarcus 12 күн бұрын
@@Xizario2 why would a factory use diesel? Maybe to transport stuff, but once the transport is done, the panels generate power for 30+ years with no additional inputs. You are jumping through hoops here to make things as bad as diesel.
@Mace_Window_
@Mace_Window_ 4 күн бұрын
@@churchofmarcus Wonder what happens to the battery when it gets fully depleted...Also mining an EV battery is very damaging to the environment. I'd take my petrol car anyday and sounds so good too!
@80s_kid.
@80s_kid. 12 күн бұрын
in Europe, petrol is way more expensive due to high tax charges, so people started to buy diesel cars, but about 20 years ago, the governments noticed then put the diesel prices up, people started mixing diesel with cooking oil, because cooking oil was cheap, then (as you can guess) the governments figured out what was going on, so they put the prices of cooking oil up.
@gerhardvaneeden5615
@gerhardvaneeden5615 10 күн бұрын
They would tax the air we breathe if they could get away with it. Scumbags, the lot of them!
@Stringboiler
@Stringboiler 9 күн бұрын
"Yeah, but that's cooking oil =)"
@Mandorle21
@Mandorle21 8 күн бұрын
What are you talking about?? 🤣🤣🤣
@chadmagnus5850
@chadmagnus5850 8 күн бұрын
Yes. It was crazy. My country's government ordered cops to stop and sniff at diesel cars exhausts to see if they use cooking oil. If they found one, you could get fined for over a hundred thousand forints. It was an insane period.🤡
@chadmagnus5850
@chadmagnus5850 8 күн бұрын
@@Mandorle21 It's an actual thing you can do. My dad did it too, to his diesel cars, when cooking oil prices were low. Just add some to your diesel fuel as an additive, like engine oil and it could save you quite a buck, back then.
@assassinul95
@assassinul95 19 күн бұрын
Germany has really weird policies when it comes to diesels, I own a small transport company(I'm not from Germany but we pass trough it almost daily)and we own euro 6 trucks (more specifically MAN TGX with the d26 engine) from 2015-2017, this year Germany introduced legislation which saw the increase in taxation for all trucks but most importantly they increased taxation for trucks older than 5 years. I wouldn't mind it but the new trucks are still euro 6 and not different from my own euro 6 trucks, even the parts are fully interchangeable and according to the CoC (certificate of conformity) there is no difference in emissions between old and new trucks. What is the difference in taxation? A 2017 euro 6 truck pays 0.33-0.36€/km while a 2020 euro 6 truck pays 0.28 €/km. This caused massive logistics company to replace their fleet of euro 6 trucks with brand new euro 6 trucks resulting in a insignificant difference in pollution from traffic and an increased pollution from manufacturing. More over, euro 7 emissions standards have been postponed in favor of electric trucks. Which are more expensive, can't do what my old diesels can( Here I mean range, a standard tgx in my fleet has a range of around 3000km meanwhile the electric ones 300-500km) and there is no infrastructure at all for these units. I'm not even sure if we will have euro 7 trucks considering that all manufacturers constantly advertise and talk about curent and future electric vehicles and nothing is mentioned about euro 7. Also LNG trucks started to show up, suffering mostly from the lack of infrastructure. I tried biodiesel for a while in order to reduce my fleets carbon footprint but biodiesel ruins filters and injectors like there is no tomorrow, the funny bit is that my grandparents have an old tractor U650 that can happily run on cooking oil making it quite eco friendly while newer diesel vehicles struggle to do so
@pararera6394
@pararera6394 19 күн бұрын
MAN is from Germany. Only explanation is to increase truck sales.
@assassinul95
@assassinul95 19 күн бұрын
@pararera6394 yeah, that's obvious but they are making it about the environment and I think that's not genuine. Also I gave MAN as an example because that's what I own but it's the same regardless of the brand
@Danis8Pastry
@Danis8Pastry 19 күн бұрын
It’s all about power and the peoples submission to it. Not about the environment.
@peekaboo1575
@peekaboo1575 19 күн бұрын
Step 1) Create a problem. Step 2) Give yourself more money to fix said problem. Step 3) Repeat.
@heinzhaupthaar5590
@heinzhaupthaar5590 19 күн бұрын
We've got the most incompetent and corrupt government I've seen in my lifetime right now in Germany, and I'm getting pretty old these days. There's lots of legislation and regulations all under the guise of climate or environmental protection - but they're all deeply flawed and usually even fundamentally implausible to the very core. The driver behind it is lobbyism, other forms of corruption - but mostly nonsensical ideology and outright idiocy & utter incompetence. Our secretary of commerce doesn't even know industry electricity/energy rates or what a f'ng bankruptcy is. He - by his own admission - doesn't care for Germany very much anyway and thinks liking your native country is disgusting. That's more or less verbatim btw. Who could've known they'll fck everything up and fulfill their dream of crippling deindustrialization and "green degrowth" on the back of the general population and to the benefit of the very wealthy and entities like Blackrock. I wouldn't even be surprised anymore if you'd tell me they're trying to enforce truckers to inhale their own farts via mandatory @$$ to mouth device to "safe the planet", it's disgraceful and outright ridiculous.
@patdurt023
@patdurt023 19 күн бұрын
In some countries. Mine included, the government incentivised scrappage schemes, offering people €2000-3000 to scrap their petrol cars to buy diesels. A lot of good cars got scrapped for nothing.
@ptamog
@ptamog 19 күн бұрын
The story repeats these years the other way around
@lassepeterson2740
@lassepeterson2740 19 күн бұрын
@@ptamog And soon the governments will decide that they want all battery vehicles off the road . Rinse and repeat until everyone is broke . Diesel will always be needed for the militaries ready to fight each other .
@realms4219
@realms4219 19 күн бұрын
Kept the 2nd hand market prices high too.
@ptamog
@ptamog 19 күн бұрын
@lassepeterson2740 Yep. Whe should consider electric cars appliances with a design life of ~10 years. Governments will probably find too dangerous aftermarket battery replacement.
@KeithZim
@KeithZim 19 күн бұрын
Oh it was definitely done for a reason. It was done to make billions in profits for the auto industry.. They did the same thing here except it was just any old car. "Cash for Clunkers" ......
@TheSoup222222
@TheSoup222222 13 күн бұрын
as a diesel tech, i often see videos about subjects like these that make improper assertions and errors about the science on diesel engines, but this is very accurate. i will say that while DPFs do get clogged over time, this issue can be addressed by proper maintenance cycles and they're about as problematic as catalytic converter failures, except catalytic converters are much less serviceable (in my understanding, i work with very few gas vehicles). thank you for this video, it is very well put together and i appreciate you going into the consumer perspective as well
@babayega1717
@babayega1717 10 күн бұрын
Only a man that has never driven a DPF equipped car, can say that regular maintenance is enough to keep it working. Sorry bud, you're clueless.
@TheSoup222222
@TheSoup222222 10 күн бұрын
@@babayega1717 i say this as someone who works with a fleat that doesn't experience DPF failure often because we follow routine maintenance cycles and actually inspect regularly. DPF failures happen due to other component failures that would cause a problem no matter what, the DPF just happens to fall victim since it's down stream. i also think you're missing the bit where i said they're at problematic as catalytic converters, which are still problematic and prone to fail after clogging from oil consumption etc (just like a DPF go figure.) sorry your car has problems, mine does too, if you think it's because of the DPF, switch to a gasser and you'll notice theyre just as problematic, that was my only point.
@DamienWhite
@DamienWhite 10 күн бұрын
@@TheSoup222222 I was reluctant to buy my current diesel honda civic because of all the DPF fearmongering online, this thing now has over 110k miles on it and haven't had any issues with the DPF, it's a 2.2 i-dtec and I do 60 miles on the motorway 3-4 times a week which is probably why I have no issues, the most reliable car I've ever owned!
@johnrbnsn
@johnrbnsn 10 күн бұрын
@TheSoup222222 What maintenance should I be doing on the DPF? Just making sure I've got long rides for a regen cycle or something else?
@TheSoup222222
@TheSoup222222 10 күн бұрын
@@johnrbnsn i work on heavy duty so I'm not 100% sure how different it'll be on a car but there's procedures that allow you to clean the DPF without needing to pay a factory to do it. routine inspection of your exhaust system, especially around turbos, is also important. i also recommend cleaning your EGR valve(s) and taking it apart sometimes to clean your EGR system. a good brush and a blowgun is all you'll need for that. look for soot build up around the tailpipe as this can tell you your DPF is failing, and if you have an SCR system then i recommend running a test on your DEF injection to make sure it's in spec every couple years or hundred thousand miles or so. each vehicle will be different so some it could be more complicated than others, dont be afraid to ask a shop to do an inspection and a good one will let you watch what they do so you can take notes. edit: to clarify as far as i understand cars dont perform parked regeneration, but if they do then make sure to do those at whatever interval your vehicle requests.
@DexCode1337
@DexCode1337 14 күн бұрын
We are sick of this crap. Euro 6, 7, 8, 1250.. then traffic blocks, taxes and more. Just let me drive the car which i bought (which i paid taxes for).
@Anton-tf9iw
@Anton-tf9iw 10 күн бұрын
All that crap come and comes from the Globalist European commission, an un-elected authoritarian body. WEF tools.
@hansmuller23
@hansmuller23 15 күн бұрын
The key advantage is not emphasized: Diesel engines are incredibly energy efficient. 4 liters/100 km are common. Thus a normal tank can drive a car over 1000 km. This is why many people like diesel engines. Because a lot of people commute and require a lot of fuel.
@llomellamomario
@llomellamomario 15 күн бұрын
Indeed, that is my only regret picking a petrol car. I do have ~40km each way of commute, and the 6.5-7l per 100km of my peugeot 206 truly are outshined by the 4-5km per 100k of some diesel engines. Especially considering there is a 16 cents per liter difference in favor of diesel. A week is ~400km, meaning it is 20l for a diesel at 5l per 100, while 28l for petrol at 7l per 100km (mostly highways) from the closest gas station to me, it is 1.7euros per liter of petrol, and 1.54 euros per liter of diesel. Per week, diesel comes out as 20*1.54= 30.8 euros, and for petrol it comes at 28*1.7= 47.6 euros. Per week, the difference becomes 47.6-30.8 = 16.8 euros a week. In other words, for two weeks worth of petrol, I get 3 weeks of fuel worth of diesel. Sure, maintenance will hit me sooner or later, but it isn't like is 50% cheaper to maintain a petrol car either. In other words, I took the big L by choosing petrol. Sure emisisons and all that. But I don't get a wage where i can make the enviroment or public general health issues a priority.
@oimazzo2537
@oimazzo2537 15 күн бұрын
About adoption this video is kind of bs. It was waaaaaaaay cheaper and with most things it's what ultimately mattered in the diesel adoption
@bobdebouwer7835
@bobdebouwer7835 15 күн бұрын
Diesel simply has more energy per liter vs gasoline. So it's not the engine but the fuel that gives the car long range.
@qqww2741
@qqww2741 15 күн бұрын
​@@bobdebouwer7835 And the high compression, which makes it more efficient.
@NzeRekoRec
@NzeRekoRec 15 күн бұрын
​@oimazzo2537 Are we watching the same video? Yes, it was cheaper and more convenient...because of the lax regulations and subsidies achieved by lobbying..
@pest2133
@pest2133 17 күн бұрын
The amount of times "focusing on environment" has been just a marketing gimmick that backfires massively is insane
@ZoomStranger
@ZoomStranger 13 күн бұрын
Great - only three comments in to find someone labelling something "insane" . That's next level.
@silvereagle404
@silvereagle404 13 күн бұрын
yes, electric cars comes to mind
@McLarenMercedes
@McLarenMercedes 13 күн бұрын
@@silvereagle404 False. While not as convenient and not as cheap (yet) it's not even a question over which pollutes more over a 20 year lifespan. Here's what you fail to see: The day somebody invents a highly-efficient battery ICE cars go the way of the dodo. *You can't stop development* . Too many of you seem to believe nothing will change. The reason? You're *aging* and can't keep up. Now you can live in myth lala-land all you want but the consumers will have the final say in the end. And unlike you most consumers aren't myopic chimps. Creatures-of-habit perhaps but not chimps. Where in the world do you live pray tell? In some places time stands still. It's a good guess you've never travelled around much either.
@nottomclancy2439
@nottomclancy2439 13 күн бұрын
@@ZoomStranger Tell me it's not completely insane lol... 🤡🤡🤡
@tsugumorihoney2288
@tsugumorihoney2288 13 күн бұрын
now whole elecric vehicle lobbying come in mind, we already know that lithium requere are lot of water to produce, and cobalt mainly dug by kids in Kongo
@ramblerandy2397
@ramblerandy2397 6 күн бұрын
Back in the early 1990s I was just in my 30s, and my eldest brother was a motor engineer. He has said for years that the diesel was a fundamnetally dirty engine. So I questioned the advice to move towards buying a diesel car. I even went to University as a mature student to research it. I quickly found out that the diesel move was an environmental hoax. Instead, it was basically getting people to buy a car which used a fuel that the oil companies wanted us to buy because we were changing from fuel oil power stations to methane gas versions, and there was a growing fuel oil glut. Incidentally, my engineer brother had also said at a similar time that, if the battery ever catches up with the electic motor, and stores enough usuable power, for far enough [which he believed wouldn't be possible for half a century, if ever] then that would be it for the internal combustion engine [ICE]. He also dismissed Hydrogen as ultimately unworkable. Excellent explanational video, by the way.
@VitorMadeira
@VitorMadeira 10 күн бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you so very much and greetings from Portugal.
@BigUriel
@BigUriel 19 күн бұрын
The problem fundamentally is that politicians know nothing about the technologies they legislate on. Someone told them CO2 is bad, Diesel emits less CO2, so Diesel it is. Engineers had known about NOx and particulate emissions for decades but no one in charge of making the laws actually cared, nor did they care about the obvious fact that despite the European emissions standards becoming stricter and stricter there were several papers out proving that in real driving conditions Euro 5 cars didnt' even meet Euro 2 emissions standards and NOx emissions had not gone down at all since the 90s. For a period public preference was also a factor, around the 2000s a combination of new high pressure fuel injection systems and turbocharging made Diesels very attractive from a real world performance perspective, it wasn't until several years later that turbocharged gasoline engines started becoming more widespread. Perfect example is the Alfa 147 shown in the video, other than the very expensive top of the range GTA model the most powerful gasoline engine available was a naturally aspirated 2l with 150hp and 180Nm, but you could get a 1.9l Diesel with up to 170hp and 330Nm, and a cheap remap would see it making over 200hp easily.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 19 күн бұрын
We need to stop ratcheting emissions standards. Both gasoline engines and diesel engines are about as clean as they could possibly be without destroying the economics of the petroleum fueled transportation fleet. But of course, that is the goal of the communist central planners.
@0megalul309
@0megalul309 19 күн бұрын
business majors ruin environments
@nikfr
@nikfr 19 күн бұрын
the goal wasn't the co2 reduction, but selling a product that energy industries couldn't sell, diesel, the politicians to justify the public spending they say that the goal was to reduce co2. as stated in the video
@swxqt6826
@swxqt6826 19 күн бұрын
It baffles me that people who make laws never need to have expertise within the relevant subjects, and how society simply never learns from these mistakes.
@davemccage7918
@davemccage7918 19 күн бұрын
The real problem is that China, India (and the rest of the developing world) don’t give a single f$*k about the environment and they are among the largest producers of Co2 emissions due to their massive populations. Can’t say I blame them either, it’s hard to be concerned about green house gases with your just trying to get to work or keep your home warm.
@leslieaustin151
@leslieaustin151 18 күн бұрын
Your skepticism is well placed. Politicians care nothing for the people, only for themselves. As an ex-mechanic I remember the nonsense spoken by politicians when they wanted to shift diesel fuels. “Clean diesels” was the cry, but that was always rubbish. Politicians rarely know or understand any technical information, they only understand what keeps them in power and increases their own income. Thank you for this and your other videos. Les in UK 🇬🇧
@alessandro3139
@alessandro3139 16 күн бұрын
Politicians do care for people that are working for and that, unfortunately, are not the same people who votes for them.
@fukkitful
@fukkitful 16 күн бұрын
@@alessandro3139 I know it's not possible and will never happen but.... I strongly believe being a politician should be similar to being a Buddhist Monk. No owning property or having money. Removing the chance of them being "bought" will increase the chance they do what's best for their people. Hopefully. Also if they have a spouse, their income should be public. Can't have someone like Pelosi's husband, making millions on insider information for her.
@C_R_O_M________
@C_R_O_M________ 16 күн бұрын
Great comment!
@C_R_O_M________
@C_R_O_M________ 16 күн бұрын
@@alessandro3139 then vote for politicians who advocate for the elimination of such crony relationships. A certain newly elected President in a Latin American country, comes to mind. P.S. At the same time pursue PERSONAL SOLUTIONS which will make you independent and in no need of assistance from political scumbags.
@rationalityfirst
@rationalityfirst 16 күн бұрын
VIVA LA LIBERTAD CARAJO!
@mrmrmrcaf7801
@mrmrmrcaf7801 7 күн бұрын
25 years ago, gas cars consumed twice as much as diesel cars...I remember perfectly because I commuted daily and diesel was cheaper than gasoline. Even today, if I were commuting like in the past, I wouldn't even think of taking anything other than a diesel. I used to go from Vienna to Munich several times a week for 15 years and I only drove BMW 5 series diesels, my last one was a F10 BMW 520d and I remember that it consumed 4.5l per 100km on this route (52MPG for you Americans) and my colleagues in their petrol cars consumed twice as much. It's not bad for a luxury boat to commute and as far as I can remember, I was making 2 trips back and forth with a full tank...around 1500-1600 km, from my house to the office was a little up to 400 km.
@otm646
@otm646 6 күн бұрын
People forget this. I own a w115 300D with the naturally aspirated om617. I get 17 if not 19 MPG out of it all day long. Similarly sized American cars of the era got 12 MPG and you're not stuck driving in a super econo box like a Mk1 Golf (which I also had).
@leeroyjenkins0
@leeroyjenkins0 5 күн бұрын
Yeah, there's a reason all long-haul trucks are diesel.
@adrianflo6481
@adrianflo6481 11 күн бұрын
i didnt know off brand Andrew shultz was going to be this informative. great video. so concise and the b-roll actually cements the talking point rather than just being store bought assets.
@user-xq4he1yt9v
@user-xq4he1yt9v 19 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great video! As a Korean, this is very impressive content for me. My government had been encouraging diesel vehicles for 10 years, even using the word 'clean diesel'. Now, the government has designated a zone in Seoul where diesel cars are not allowed to drive. Diesel car owners are not criminals, they are just complying with the regulations.
@pintiliecatalin
@pintiliecatalin 19 күн бұрын
I don't know about Korea but in Europe some of them are. Disabling your DPF is quite common issue. For that reason alone diesels should be banned.
@mikelemoine4267
@mikelemoine4267 18 күн бұрын
@@pintiliecatalin You can't realistically punish all people for the actions of a few. It's not that hard to tell when the DPF is disabled as the car tends to smoke on acceleration, while a emissions intact model will not. There is also a very noticeable difference in the smell of the exhaust. Here in the US our EPA has been increasing enforcement including going after the people who sell the aftermarket tunes and bypass components. In some states like California, they got the customer list of a tuner and forced the owners to take the vehicles to the dealer to replace the components with brand new OEM parts before they could renew the car registration. Dealers can be fined tens of thousands of dollars for selling a car with modified emission controls and there have been cases where people have gotten a "visit" from the EPA after posting about modifications online or mentioning them in a private sales advert. The thing I dislike about our EPA is that they are hyper-focused on emissions ratios versus total emissions. Even decades ago the VW Beetle stopped being sold here because the air cooled engine could not meet our emissions limits. At the same time, you could buy a Cadillac land yacht with an 8.x liter V8 that got dingle digit mileage (roughly 29 L per Km) was considered compliant, despite emitting roughly 10 times the amount of harmful combustion byproducts. Today they are still focused on PPM emissions yet don't say a word when manufacturers make half of the engine out of plastic which guarantees early failure followed by a millennia in the landfill, all while using more oil to make and transport the replacement parts that should not have failed to begin with. It seems that if we made cars to last, operate as cleanly and reliably as possible, take steps to reduce congestion (smarter light timing, incentives for transporting outside of rush hours, etc.) and perhaps covered car parking areas with solar panels and trees could make a real impact without wrecking the economy and causing unintended consequences. Common sense in legislation seems to be non-existent.
@pintiliecatalin
@pintiliecatalin 18 күн бұрын
Thr thing is that doesel was pushed nu legislators and because of that certain issues were ignored. For example actually measuring NOx and particles for diesel, a thing wich baffeled even some owners when they found out. Because manu bought diesels for their lower consumption but where also under the impression that they poluted less. That is why i agreen 100% with this video. Many where actuallu tricked into buying diesel.
@abdul-kabiralegbe5660
@abdul-kabiralegbe5660 18 күн бұрын
​@@mikelemoine4267 Great points raised. However I'm a bit sceptical that there'll be any scenario where everyone wins. As with most things in life, there's always an opportunity cost. The question is if it will be considered acceptable. Other than that, I totally agree with you.
@mikelemoine4267
@mikelemoine4267 16 күн бұрын
@@abdul-kabiralegbe5660 Very true, opportunity cost is something that will always apply and of course what is acceptable by some won't be acceptable by others. On top of that, it's usually the wealthy and powerful get to determine what is acceptable, so the worker bees will likely get the short end of the stick.
@yinbaro
@yinbaro 19 күн бұрын
I love this type of videos where you go over more broad themes about the car industry, they are very well researched, written and educational. Very good work!
@matsv201
@matsv201 18 күн бұрын
The issue is that almost everything stated is wrong. For example, calmed multiple time that Diesel got more leanest emission standards. Not true. While the NOx standard was somewhat more leanient for deisel cars, the CO standard was significantly more leanest for petrol cars. The CO standard between 2006 and 2024 for petrol cars is 100% higher. But the Nox standard for diesel cars are 33% higher. Also NMHC standard for petrol cars have only ever been updated once. On top of that the claim that the tax for diesel cars was lowered is very missleading. while true. They where lowered compare to prior tax that was far higher than for petrol cars.
@aymenninja8120
@aymenninja8120 17 күн бұрын
for making OPEC as an Arab organisation which is totally wrong , I need to double check every single fact he mentioned now.
@lala45531
@lala45531 15 күн бұрын
@@matsv201 what bothered me the most is at 12:30 where he says it "because of these reasons it makes it cheaper for manufacturers to develop diesel engines. " It kinda just felt throughout the video he doesn't really know anything about diesel engines. i usually enjoy his videos somewhat. this isn't one of them.
@matsv201
@matsv201 15 күн бұрын
@@lala45531 well. I would say a lot of say "car people" have a anti diesel bias. But ask this simple question. Should trucks and tractors go back to petrol? I se it lile this. Large stuff that is run a lot = diesel Small stuff that is run less = electric Anything between. Petrol. Its also worth saying that moder gas engines is almost diesel engines. A jet engine is basicallt a linear diesel engine.
@fredfred2363
@fredfred2363 13 күн бұрын
@matsv201... OMG! Someone who actually understands. 100% agree.
@jesusrodriquez526
@jesusrodriquez526 3 күн бұрын
An university lecture-tier video, regards a non-graduating engineer of energy technics. You just summarized this better than our lecturers during their courses.
@Michaeltje89
@Michaeltje89 12 күн бұрын
The funny part here in the Netherlands is that they measure your diesel exhaust output every year. But, If you pay some money (+-$100) and a montly fee depending on the size of the car. Then you are free to output whatever you want.
@timokreuzer381
@timokreuzer381 6 күн бұрын
Because paying money to the government will make the weather better. You just have to believe in it.
@otm646
@otm646 6 күн бұрын
I think this is the most fair option. There is a societal cost to my emissions, so let me buy out the cost of those emissions. Don't ban my vehicle or force me to incur extraordinarily expensive repairs. Let me just pay off the difference.
@Sinaeb
@Sinaeb 5 күн бұрын
@@timokreuzer381 stop voting in rich people that wants to destroy governments so the governments stops being destroyed?
@ime172
@ime172 5 күн бұрын
then i can detune and retune my vehicle every year. how do you know which tune im using?
@arromger
@arromger 2 күн бұрын
You only pay the "fine" if you don't have a soot filter (don't know the correct English term). You could just take it to the garage where they measure and register it, remove the filter, and then replace it again before the next check in a year and they'd be none the wiser
@shiekhwaleedmiral-protein2819
@shiekhwaleedmiral-protein2819 19 күн бұрын
No the first time politicians, bureaucrats, generals and corporations got rich off the common man's tax money.
@photon6668
@photon6668 15 күн бұрын
That's why I stopped giving a damn about the environmental policies :) they are designed to protect somebody's income, not the environment.
@shiekhwaleedmiral-protein2819
@shiekhwaleedmiral-protein2819 13 күн бұрын
@@photon6668 true
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 12 күн бұрын
The evil bureaucratic eu also banned fluorescent lamps last year so I hoard all of them that i can find. I will never use ugly boring chinese L*Ds. Plasma is the king, solid state is boring.
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 11 күн бұрын
elon musk is doing the exact same scam with telsa ev’s
@chadmagnus5850
@chadmagnus5850 8 күн бұрын
And not the last. This is why I stopped caring for environmental policies. I protect the environment by not littering and disposing my trash as suggested by the garbage disposal companies.
@SMVB-cl6oc
@SMVB-cl6oc 19 күн бұрын
I like the video essay style production. Id be very interested in more of these.
@Mprikiman
@Mprikiman 15 күн бұрын
One of the best videos you have ever created! Love it!
@fliprim
@fliprim 11 күн бұрын
A truly excellent and detailed account. Superb. Thanks. Subscribed.
@robertwoodhouse-bm7kt
@robertwoodhouse-bm7kt 18 күн бұрын
25 years ago I worked in Brussels for awhile almost every car was a diesel. People would spend a fortune on an expensive BMW or Mercedes but insist on a diesel version as diesel was cheaper than petrol. Now I´m retired in Portugal my petrol BMW is a rarity on the road, I had to buy it in Germany, the local dealer only had diesel in their used car department.
@vascoribeiro69
@vascoribeiro69 14 күн бұрын
With the taxes on fuels, the choice for long runners is still diesel as they are, in theory, very economical. My Mercedes can make as low as 3,5l/100km with moderate driving. Otherwise, I would drive a petrol/gasoline hybrid.
@santostv.
@santostv. 11 күн бұрын
There’s plenty of old bmw’s that are petrol, new ones I think are hibrid, no matter what never buy a new/newish car in Portugal,always import it from Germany 😂 Diesel cars are more economical and fuel is cheaper unless you buy a lpg Dacia.
@lordlazerface5704
@lordlazerface5704 19 күн бұрын
Governments don’t learn lessons.
@grizwoldphantasia5005
@grizwoldphantasia5005 19 күн бұрын
Oh, they learn lessons alright, but the wrong ones.
@Paciat
@Paciat 19 күн бұрын
Lol, governments? More like people are to stupid to understand that state control is the most corrupt thing on earth. Myths like 'national socialism isnt socialism' are alive and well today.
@ianalderton6683
@ianalderton6683 19 күн бұрын
people don't learn lessons . . .
@abstractspaces8186
@abstractspaces8186 19 күн бұрын
The governments got exactly what they wanted because they satisfied the lobbyists. It's up to the voters to call them on their bullshit.
@hoedenbesteller
@hoedenbesteller 19 күн бұрын
You should always trust your government.. they know what is best for you, right?
@ToiOraLAT
@ToiOraLAT 5 күн бұрын
Just checked out your KZfaq site. SO freakin many vids on so many questions I would love to learn. Am excited about the hours to come!
@CitroenDS23
@CitroenDS23 11 күн бұрын
Nailed it again. It makes a nice change to watch one of your videos that my non-engineering background understands, without having to pause and replay often to get my head around a concept you are explaining. I like those technical video explanations too!
@thomaswilding8818
@thomaswilding8818 19 күн бұрын
I didn't realize they lowered compression ratios to meet emission standards. Very useful.
@Turnipstalk
@Turnipstalk 19 күн бұрын
They did not, this is a misunderstanding. The CR of a turbodiesel is not the simple CR of the piston and cylinder but has to take into account the performance of the turbocharger. If you increase the boost, you have to reduce the mechanical CR to suit. E.g. if the mechanical CR is 16:1 and the boost is 0.25 bar, the real CR is 20:1. At 0.5 bar, it's 24:1. Manufacturers wanted smaller engines for less friction with higher boost, so the mechanical CR is lowered. But overall you want higher total cylinder pressure because the fuel burns faster if the oxygen density around it is higher. Back in the day when I was involved in Diesel R&D we ran a test engine with 5.8 bar of boost. The mechanical CR had to be rather low or the head would have popped off.
@silentIm
@silentIm 19 күн бұрын
​​@@TurnipstalkAlso, with boost increase and lowering temperature by intercooler, air density is higher, therefore more oxygen. We cant cool incoming air once the air enters the cylinder.
@Turnipstalk
@Turnipstalk 19 күн бұрын
@@silentIm Yes you are correct. "Lowering CR" shows the video creator doesn't really understand what is going on.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 19 күн бұрын
​@@TurnipstalkWhat was the static compression ratio of that testbed engine? I bet it was very low. How did you manage to start the engine with the static CR so low and no boost when cranking to start?
@SimonCoates
@SimonCoates 19 күн бұрын
If you are interested have a look at Mazda's SkyActiv-D ultra-low compression diesel engine, it has very low emissions achieved by using low compression. Whilst Mazda have lowered the compression ratio of their diesels they have increased it for petrol engines, both being around 14:1. They still make some quirky engines with very interesting design.
@antonio_fosnjar
@antonio_fosnjar 16 күн бұрын
I'm from one European country and almost everyone I know owns a diesel and practically half of them have dissabled their DPF filters because they fail after around 100k km and it's just to expensive to replace them. Even my low mileage Mercedes that has ADblue had a sensor break that literally software dissabled my car from driving until I just had it turn off in the software because Mercedes was asking 3k$ for a fix.
@krashd
@krashd 10 күн бұрын
They only fail if not maintained, like anything else really.
@Fragile-s-junktube
@Fragile-s-junktube 10 күн бұрын
Eastern Europe I reckon
@antonio_fosnjar
@antonio_fosnjar 10 күн бұрын
@Fragile-s-junktube Bingo. We aren't that undeveloped for a country but people just seem to not care and a lot of people just bribe the car inspectors to let them pass. I've driven behind few cars where the smoke and smell was so bad I had to turn off the AC, there's no way these would fly in any wester European country.
@antonio_fosnjar
@antonio_fosnjar 10 күн бұрын
@krashd They ALL fail, after 150k km it's up to luck how much longer it will last for. Maybe they were designed for the life of the vehicle but only in lab tests and perfect fuel economy, which definitely isn't the case in the real world
@Fragile-s-junktube
@Fragile-s-junktube 10 күн бұрын
@@antonio_fosnjar So... Croatia? 🤣 Anything car related in Croatia is ass backwards, be it second hand prices, rigorous laws and obvious violations of the same if you have friends in the right places etc.
@justdaft6182
@justdaft6182 9 күн бұрын
Man, you did some deep digging there. Good job.
@Dzichader
@Dzichader 12 күн бұрын
23:20 - NO2 main distributor in cities are gas kitchen which dont have filters at all.
@StevePhoenix
@StevePhoenix 10 күн бұрын
I don't know where you live, but gas stoves are incredibly rare in Greece. The vast majority of stoves over here are electric or/and induction based ones. That also seems to be the case in most European countries.
@scottfranco1962
@scottfranco1962 19 күн бұрын
Missing from this is "cracking". When gasoline became popular, a lot of research went into increasing the amount of gasoline that came out of the oil refining process. The result was "cracking", which produced more gasoline, and thus less diesel from the input oil. The tradeoff was that it took more energy to crack the fuel. Gasoline is a more expensive fuel than diesel, besides being less efficient. The theory was that more use of diesel would not only create more use of the normal diesel output of refineries, but also allow them to reduce use of cracking to produce more diesel and less gasoline, and better fuel efficiency to boot. What was the price of that? More air pollution, of course.
@brettbuck7362
@brettbuck7362 17 күн бұрын
Diesel is almost always much more expensive than the lowest grade of gasoline, usually 80 cents to 1 dollar a gallon.
@paco2ski
@paco2ski 17 күн бұрын
It is NO MORE Expencive ., Heating Oil is the commodity product equvalent to diesel. US futures Markets /HO and /RB for gasoline. Gasoline ALWAYS WAS POPULAR .. Far easier to build lower pressure engine near 10:1 compression vs 45:1 diesel. Miles per gallon of Much longer chain hydrocarbons diesel wins hands down.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 17 күн бұрын
Today's diesel cars are extremely clean. Now it's sad that diesel engines are dropped from efficient cars and only remain in SUVs. A diesel car is the best vehicle for the highway, where an SUV would be less efficient.
@brettbuck7362
@brettbuck7362 15 күн бұрын
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Except that they aren't - at all. Almost every diesel I see clatters around putting out soot, and turning the back end of the car black. That's why various places are banning them, and no one every buys them any more.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 15 күн бұрын
@@brettbuck7362 those are old cars and the places banning them are wrong. Referring to modern diesels isn't referring to diesels from the 90s to today, but from Euro 6 to today. Euro 7 will streamline emissions between the different propulsions and be a great standard for very clean automobiles.
@CamperKev
@CamperKev 19 күн бұрын
The world runs on diesel and it will continue that way, well into the future. That includes the mining industry, agriculture, manufacturing and transportation. The trucking industry, freight trains, tractors and mighty cargo ships. Everything we do each day around the world, is highly related to diesel. Without diesel, the world economies would collapse and people would starve.
@pararera6394
@pararera6394 19 күн бұрын
Ships don't use diesel since it's too expensive. They use Heavy fuel oil(called mazut).
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 19 күн бұрын
@@pararera6394 Depends on the size of the ship, but for mass transportation of goods, yes.
@SerbanCMusca-ut8ny
@SerbanCMusca-ut8ny 19 күн бұрын
Thank you for speaking the truth and reminding people the limits of gasoline engines mean diesel engines are here to stay and that without them people would starve.
@victorbarberis2603
@victorbarberis2603 19 күн бұрын
bro wake up
@patricklopes-vtec
@patricklopes-vtec 19 күн бұрын
Do you mean steam and alcohol and electricity and water and wind and sun and coal? Yep, the 19th century turns back to the 21st as a continuation, but in a healthier way.
@JoshuaCrunk
@JoshuaCrunk 5 күн бұрын
This is one of the best of your many great videos.
@grotmx
@grotmx 13 күн бұрын
Well researched and brilliantly explained. Great job! Glad I found your channel
@ddrhero
@ddrhero 18 күн бұрын
Basically, Government creates a problem for the solution it was just lobbied for, then scrambles to create a solution to the problem their previous solution just created x5.
@dimfre4kske67
@dimfre4kske67 13 күн бұрын
No, businesses created a problem which caused another problem for businesses which required a solution from the government.
@ddrhero
@ddrhero 13 күн бұрын
@@dimfre4kske67 no, business had nothing to do with the laws. That's government. How do you even arrive at that conclusion?
@dimfre4kske67
@dimfre4kske67 13 күн бұрын
@@ddrhero Because the businesses requested government intervention and got it. Otherwise they'd be stuck with too much diesel which was unsellable in the quantities they were producing and no they couldn't scale it back. This is explained in the video, which I suspect you did not watch completely.
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 12 күн бұрын
The evil bureaucratic eu also banned fluorescent lamps last year so I hoard all of them that i can find. I will never use ugly boring chinese L*Ds. Plasma is the king, solid state is boring.
@GumMagnum
@GumMagnum 18 күн бұрын
Governmental shittery is what creates the perverse incentive. Its not a bad example of consumer preference, its an example of how this heavily interventionist environment creates the problems which people adapt to the best they can
@mx338
@mx338 14 күн бұрын
Government policy can be missguided, but usually it's very obviously lobbyists corrupting legislation. Without government interference companies still would be dumping deadly chemicals into rivers, because it simply makes the most sense economically.
@zvexevz
@zvexevz 14 күн бұрын
It's not just the government, or "interventionist" policies to blame here. Remember that it was the auto manufacturers and oil refineries that first started lobbying for policy changes that would create a market for their products, and eliminate the risk of their diesel technology R&D and investments in expanded production lines. Regulatory capture results in the government working for the private interest of industrialists rather than the public good. We would all do well to remember that when people start talking about how the private sector is so innovative and efficient, always willing to take big risks through their investments which benefit society, if only the interventionist government would get out of the way and let business work its magic. Far from opposing government intervention, as such arguments would have us believe, large corporations make huge efforts to influence public policy to create conditions for easy profits. Corporations hate risk and competition, and view the government as a means to eliminate the risk of their investments, often placing it on the public instead.
@razekt430
@razekt430 13 күн бұрын
​@@zvexevz Many libertarians don't understand that it is the corporate lobbying influenced by the radical changes in the market and their fear of lower profit rates that influence the governments into reshaping the laws in order to ensure they don't suffer much more losses.
@identitymatrix
@identitymatrix 13 күн бұрын
@@razekt430 No, we just think government shouldn't care about what companies say. Want to change the law? Vote differently. That's the way it should go. Governments have to stop interfering, all this interference causes the problems in the first place.
@zvexevz
@zvexevz 13 күн бұрын
​@@identitymatrix Yes, agreed, that's how government should work in a democratic system. However concentrated corporate power prevents that from happening. They spend tons of money to ensure that the government works for them. The point is that just blaming "government" for "interfering" is missing the actual causation, the bigger picture. Namely why they are interfering and for what purpose. In this example, governments spent decades creating regulatory frameworks that directly benefited auto makers and oil refiners, to the great detriment of public health. If you want the government to stop interfering in this way, you need to recognize that it happens because of big business and lobbying. So the way to prevent such abuses is to limit the ability of business to distort government policy to suit its own private interest.
@greg552
@greg552 11 күн бұрын
As always, your presentations are superior. Thank you.
@AmerBoyo
@AmerBoyo 14 күн бұрын
Very well put together, well done sir!
@shingosshojiopoulos6608
@shingosshojiopoulos6608 19 күн бұрын
Greece is one of the few european countries where diesel cars weren't popular in the 1990s,2000s and 2010s . Actually, diesel cars are nowadays more popular than ever since 95 petrol can cost anywhere from 1.8-1.9 euros per liter while diesel costs like 1.6 euros
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 19 күн бұрын
Athens, famous for its crisp and healthy air quality
@shingosshojiopoulos6608
@shingosshojiopoulos6608 19 күн бұрын
@@toyotaprius79 nowadays its way better than during the 80s and 90s , especially with the "ring"
@ujiltromm7358
@ujiltromm7358 19 күн бұрын
For the Freedom Units users: 1.8 €/L = 7.4 €/gal 1.6 €/L = 6.56 €/gal Just apply the current conversion rate for the actual dollar cost at the time of reading.
@spvrda
@spvrda 19 күн бұрын
​@@toyotaprius79 Did you watch the video?
@McBeamer94
@McBeamer94 19 күн бұрын
Yes, diesel was banned in the early 80s in Athens, for reducing the smog. It made plenty of sense back then, since diesel engines weren't as advanced as they are now. But this ban ended in ca. 2011.
@ExAnimoPortugal
@ExAnimoPortugal 18 күн бұрын
"Maybe this time it will be different." - said everyone who accepted tyranny.
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 12 күн бұрын
Te eu is tiranny. The evil bureaucratic eu also banned fluorescent lamps last year so I hoard all of them that i can find. I will never use ugly boring chinese L*Ds. Plasma is the king, solid state is boring.
@samanomedina
@samanomedina 9 күн бұрын
Great video. I don't think it is a stretch to say best auto related video in its class. Well done.
@peanuts2105
@peanuts2105 2 сағат бұрын
This was an excellent essay. Very well researched and intricately filmed with nice intercuts
@romulosteca5324
@romulosteca5324 19 күн бұрын
After the first oil crisis here in Brazil we tried shifting to ethanol. Didn't work out at the time, but led to the creation of the flexible car at the start of the millenium. Overhere pretty much every car can run with either gas or ethanol.
@xc8487
@xc8487 19 күн бұрын
You also have 100% ethanol from sugar cane
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 19 күн бұрын
@@xc8487 And a destroyed rain forest for producing all the sugar cane for runing all VW Ethanol cars. Well done. I applaud the Brazilians!
@xc8487
@xc8487 19 күн бұрын
@@wolfgangpreier9160 And here in the US, 2% of all our land is Corn and it's production is subsidized, so farmers try to plant as much as possible regardless of whether we actually need it.
@rkan2
@rkan2 19 күн бұрын
Renewable fuel production from biomass always sounds nice, but you are always taking away from food production, or these days, more often than not: a rainforest...
@grigorkyokuto7546
@grigorkyokuto7546 19 күн бұрын
​@@wolfgangpreier9160good, fuck rain forest
@andreass.3444
@andreass.3444 16 күн бұрын
It's very well known that the Diesel engine is very efficient. That's true, but what many people don't know: An important reason for the lower fuel consumption of Diesel engines, apart from it's construction, is the fact that Diesel fuel has a 15% higher energy content per liter or gallon than Gasoline! The fuel itself has a physical advantage, at the expense of a dirtier combustion. This higher energy content is above all an advantage for trucks where the Diesel engines belongs.
@N4CR5
@N4CR5 14 күн бұрын
This. Also the design lends itself to low end torque typically.
@marsfoot1237
@marsfoot1237 14 күн бұрын
calorific value of diesel fuel is roughly 45.5 MJ/kg (megajoules per kilogram), slightly lower than petrol which is 45.8 MJ/kg. However, diesel fuel is denser than petrol and contains about 15% more energy by volume (roughly 36.9 MJ/litre compared to 33.7 MJ/litre)
@dnocturn84
@dnocturn84 13 күн бұрын
That conclusion is ridiculous. Diesel engines are a good idea for cars as well. They emit far less CO2 than petrol engines. The only worse exhaust gas component mass is NOx. There are perfectly fine exhaust gas aftertreatment systems available, that can reduce them to extremely low levels (levels lower than petrol cars). It was greedy cooperations, that choose to sell them with cheaper units instead (at full price of the good ones).
@marksmellsdramapt
@marksmellsdramapt 13 күн бұрын
2001-2005 Audi A2 1.2 TDI 2.9 L/100 km 97 MPG UK 81 MPG US
@xiondFirst
@xiondFirst 13 күн бұрын
It's not the diesel engine that the problem in poorer countries there are less emission controls so the diesel fuel itself is very bad. But in 1st world countries diesel is one of the most fuel efficient and cleaner compared.to gasoline.
@lewdards1127
@lewdards1127 4 күн бұрын
very well researched video my amigo
@HorstEwald
@HorstEwald 14 күн бұрын
Important video. Thank you for this!
@adogmcdizzle
@adogmcdizzle 17 күн бұрын
You could make a similar argument that governments have driven the demand for heavier vehicles as well. Since fleet emissions are based on vehicle weight, it means that heavier vehicles can emit more. The German manufacturers lobbied hard for this, wheras the French ones were against it.
@MegaNardman
@MegaNardman 19 күн бұрын
This might be my favorite video of yours yet. As an American, if never really understood why diesels were so popular in Europe; this is the first time it's made sense! As for BEV adoption, i too hope that upcoming regulations are beneficial for our environment, but I fear that they'll be manipulated by the needs of mining companies and car manufacturers looking to make a buck.
@Orzeszekk
@Orzeszekk 18 күн бұрын
You as a american was always able to buy 10x more fuel from average salary, than person from Europe, especially from poor regions. Thats the answer. you could choose gasoline just for fun/better sound/less vibrations/more prestige because financially it doesnt matter. Here in Europe people still have choices like: have a car which consumes diesel or LPG and go 1 time per year on foreign vacation, or burn that money in Gasoline car and dont go anywhere. Almost 2x difference in consumption is what make diesel popular and affordable in europe (i mean used market). If someone got gasoline car, they mostly converted it to LPG, it was making it also 2x cheaper. But right now modern gasoline cars arent able to be converted to LPG (on the other side they are much more economical than years aso). Europe is hungry for energy and spend most of its money on fuels...
@mikelemoine4267
@mikelemoine4267 18 күн бұрын
@@Orzeszekk After the oil embargo when fuel prices rose here too (despite it being cheaper, it was still an increase) diesel and LP cars came onto the market. The difference here was that GM in particular wanted to rush theirs to market and hastily modified a petrol V8 to diesel without sufficiently reinforcing the internals. The result was extremely poor reliability which combined with the smell, noise, harshness and lackluster performance (5.7L making 104 HP in a large, heavy car) turned people away from diesels. Had they made a decently reliable diesel car back then, there would have been more proliferation as fuel costs are still a big family expense here due to our car dependent society despite being so cheap comparatively. In later years when diesels got better, the price of diesel rose above that of petrol, so the savings was much smaller. Now with diesel costing around 25% more plus the need for DEF and high maintenance costs, there really is no savings to be had. It's mostly used in heavy duty applications as it's still the best option for trucks/lorries.
@artforz
@artforz 17 күн бұрын
@@mikelemoine4267 TBH, that pretty much mirrors the atrocity that were early VW diesel engines. Take a 1.6l 85hp EA827 petrol engine, change pistons and head, add a mechanical IP and you get... a 1.6l 50hp EA086 diesel. Oh, and a nasty tendency to warp and crack heads and blow head gaskets.
@mikelemoine4267
@mikelemoine4267 16 күн бұрын
@@artforz Interesting, I always thought the earlier German cars were bulletproof, but I suppose anytime accountants and politicians get involved with manufacturing the results will not be good for the average consumer. My guess is that engineers submit a design that can meet regulations but is "too expensive" and then the accountants nitpick it down to a balance of surviving warranty and being cheap enough to compete on price.
@Zonkotron
@Zonkotron 16 күн бұрын
Diesel cars are just awesome. And i suspect if politicians really listened to public opinion the euro standards beyond 2 or 3 would just be shitcanned and a lot of people would be driving diesel again. More efficient, cheaper fuel. The air is so clean since all the old carbureted vehicles left the fleet and industry had to fit scrubbers on the real dirty stuff in the 80s and 90s, its not like it makes a big difference.
@InTeCredo
@InTeCredo 12 күн бұрын
I recalled living in Texas when we had the European-specified 1977 Mercedes-Benz 450 SEL. In the 1980s, Texas required the annual vehicle inspection, including emission test, so we hoped our 450 SEL would pass the emission test as the car didn't have catalysators. The inspector was shocked at HOW CLEAN the exhaust was, and he had to recalibrate the test equipment and ran the emission test again. He had been hoodwinked into thinking that the vehicles must have catalysators in order to pass the emission test...
@vacation_generation
@vacation_generation 9 күн бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video. thanks for enlightening me I never realised this concept but when explained it is obvious.
@user-sm9wg2le8y
@user-sm9wg2le8y 19 күн бұрын
And one of the worst pollutants for particulate matters turned out to be? Fast wearing tyres! And guess which drivetrain cars are the heaviest and go through tyres like crazy? So, when will we talk about that?
@phumezosinovuyosoka4602
@phumezosinovuyosoka4602 19 күн бұрын
SUVs?... /s 😂😂😂
@hackleberrym
@hackleberrym 19 күн бұрын
Never heard of it, you got source on that? But I agree that legislation should incentivize for smaller and lighter cars.
@strawloki7133
@strawloki7133 19 күн бұрын
And EV's got wide tires too. I see Tesla's on 235 or 245's all the time
@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst
@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst 19 күн бұрын
but the particles atleast dont float in the air
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 19 күн бұрын
@@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst, it depends on the size and weight of the particle, not on where you first deposit it.
@horsemcgraw9631
@horsemcgraw9631 12 күн бұрын
Fantastic reporting! Thank you.
@drinky1
@drinky1 8 күн бұрын
What an excellent video and so well researched and presented.
@markosedlarik9553
@markosedlarik9553 19 күн бұрын
In the countries of the former Yugoslavia, many believe that diesel is the most suitable fuel for cars. When I was younger I argued with older drivers about this and they persistently convinced me of their views. I knew how to put things on paper and draw a line and it turned out that all fuels have their good and bad sides and that due to their characteristics, they are more suitable in some conditions and not in others. For these reasons, gasoline always won for me when I took my needs and budget into account. They often complained to me that I should have taken a diesel, but that enthusiasm began to decline when the Toyota Prius, Dieselgate, stricter eco norms and additional systems (Add blue and DPF) that raised the price of diesel cars appeared. My late grandfather was a taxi driver and back in the days (70's and 80's) he drove a Mercedes on a heating oil (lower level of distillation= cheaper) and that was a real saving for the wallet. At that time, the engines did not have a lot of horsepower per 1 liter of working volume, and thus such engines lasted longer. Those times passed the moment when the turbo and other parasitic components began to be installed, which raised the level of usability, but also overall complexity. Thank you for the video and I love how everything was presented through numbers and diagrams.
@antontsau
@antontsau 18 күн бұрын
heating oil does not have excise tax, first of all. Its not good for engines, but it is CHEAP!
@markosedlarik9553
@markosedlarik9553 18 күн бұрын
@@antontsau I agree. Grandpa after emptying the tank of heating oil used a German diesel to wash the injection system from sludge and gunk.
@TooCloseToHome
@TooCloseToHome 17 күн бұрын
In the US, you used to be able to buy a kit that would modify your diesel engine to run on cooking oil (not petroleum-based; made from soy beans or other oil-making crops). It violates the manufacture's warrantee, so people only used older cars. You could get used cooking oil from restaurants for free (otherwise they'd have to pay for disposal). Your exhaust would smell slightly of food (usually potatoes, since french fries are very popular). It made more soot than diesel fuel, and I assume the gas emissions were much worse. I wonder how running on cooking oil compares to heating oil. Did your uncle have to make any modifications to his engine for it to accept heating oil?
@antontsau
@antontsau 17 күн бұрын
@@TooCloseToHome mercedes diesel from 1970s could run on anything. it was 3l slow natural aspirated pig iron coffin with mechanical pump, so the single possible problem was not to forget to remove potato before pour all this to the tank.
@arromger
@arromger 2 күн бұрын
In my country you get a pretty hefty fine for driving on anything but diesel in a diesel car. They raised taxes on such oils regardless so for them it's a win win either way since it's not attractive to do so anymore so they don't have to spend money on checking people for doing such things
@suprvrmedia6235
@suprvrmedia6235 19 күн бұрын
Follow your gut, and not the politicians. Long distance travel? Diesel City comutes? Electric Mixed? Hybrid Gas-electric Fun? Gasoline
@suprvrmedia6235
@suprvrmedia6235 19 күн бұрын
For me, diesel in cities is really bad for health But, for long distance, is the best option
@Ruben98RaptoR
@Ruben98RaptoR 19 күн бұрын
That's common sense, something not so common among politicians sadly
@LG-ct8tw
@LG-ct8tw 19 күн бұрын
@@Ruben98RaptoR So you need two vehicle? Not the best way to downsize your carbon foot print unless the EV is a bicycle.
@Ruben98RaptoR
@Ruben98RaptoR 19 күн бұрын
@@LG-ct8tw It's not only about carbon footprint but citizens breathing micro particles and Nox
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 19 күн бұрын
Long distance travel: diesel City commutes: gasoline Mixed: gasoline Fun: whatever you like Milk floats and golf carts: electricity
@MoritzLohner-cs3oo
@MoritzLohner-cs3oo 14 күн бұрын
Top Information! Great Video! Thx!
@garydunken7934
@garydunken7934 14 күн бұрын
Well researched and presented. Well done.
@user-eu1zc1xm5k
@user-eu1zc1xm5k 18 күн бұрын
Can we trust governments anymore? Fool me once, shame on you..... Fool me twice, shame on me.....!
@matsv201
@matsv201 18 күн бұрын
The main issue is that almost everything claimed in this video is wrong. Sorry
@user-eu1zc1xm5k
@user-eu1zc1xm5k 18 күн бұрын
@@matsv201 Politicians are masters of tricks and deception! They even use science to fool general public all the while they satisfy the greed of the influential. Therefore, it is a paradox to have a politician with honest concious that puts the interests of general public as a priority on his/her list.
@domagojprpic6419
@domagojprpic6419 18 күн бұрын
@@matsv201 what
@matsv201
@matsv201 18 күн бұрын
@@domagojprpic6419 like the statment that euro is more lenent to diesel cars. Not true. Diesel get to emit 33% more NOx and petrol can emit 100% more CO.
@relo999
@relo999 18 күн бұрын
That you did to begin with. An honest politician is a national calamity.
@niceboy60
@niceboy60 16 күн бұрын
Its Hippocrartic for the U.S with 8L engines for 4x4 Trucks for private use, to find Issues with VW Polo Emissions 🤣🤦
@jp3630
@jp3630 15 күн бұрын
They literally conned the native Americans out of their land, made millions of Africans work for FREE, have forced the world to use their currency through force and you people are still surprised? I just don't get it...
@docvolt5214
@docvolt5214 14 күн бұрын
I'm in Italy and I own a mustang gt with a gas guzzling v8 5l engine, and I pay less taxes on it than my brother's shitty diesel 1.3l 4 banger diesel opel corsa. Just because it's older. How the hell is my mustang an euro 6 which doing 5km with a liter of 100 octanes and his shitbox with the mileage of a bicycle is an euro 3
@theleva7
@theleva7 14 күн бұрын
Hypocritical. And yes, it totally is.
@Lucas-gu7sj
@Lucas-gu7sj 13 күн бұрын
@@docvolt5214because your governments make no sense. wake up
@williamzsolnai
@williamzsolnai 13 күн бұрын
Well, those trucks don't *claim* to be environmentally friendly
@bradrawls8944
@bradrawls8944 10 күн бұрын
Outstanding reporting job. Well thought out and presented without the politics.
@user-zq3wt4qq9b
@user-zq3wt4qq9b 13 күн бұрын
This video actually answered a question that i already had. Thumbs up!!
@Blxz
@Blxz 18 күн бұрын
Oh no, large government initiatives turned out to be inefficient and bad for people. How unexpected.
@MartijnMcFly
@MartijnMcFly 15 күн бұрын
More like: large company lobbies turned out to be inefficient and bad for people.
@MadsterV
@MadsterV 15 күн бұрын
@@MartijnMcFly Lobby only exists because government loves it
@MartijnMcFly
@MartijnMcFly 15 күн бұрын
@@MadsterV Because the lobby gives politicians money. Money corrupts, son, always.
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 14 күн бұрын
A lot like how instead of German politicians upgrading and modernizing it's CO2 free fission power plants they shut them down, then were all about the Nordstream projects to get rich off of cheap Russian fossil fuels to fill the gaps renewables can't fill without grid batteries. Also how the Sierra club in USA was paid to change their stance on fission power by the fossil fuel industry for, money. We need grid batteries to support renewables and modern fission plants to provide 24/7 baseload, but there is too much money in fossil fuels for governments to see clearly.
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 14 күн бұрын
Kind of like how the German government shutdown its fission plants instead of modernizing them only to back the Nordstream projects to get rich off of cheap Russian fossil fuels.
@phukfone8428
@phukfone8428 19 күн бұрын
2:50 I remember at the time they said in France " we don't have oil, we don't have coal, we don't have a choice"
@bobdebouwer7835
@bobdebouwer7835 15 күн бұрын
Using less energy is also a choice. But not what people want to hear..
@Senko13th
@Senko13th 9 күн бұрын
What a great video and storyteller!
@Pulverrostmannen
@Pulverrostmannen 13 күн бұрын
In the end I can almost bet that the Diesel cars will still be cleaner than the total footprint of electric cars. So far every better alternative we get have been worse than the last one
@TheoSmith249
@TheoSmith249 10 күн бұрын
You are correct, and its not even close.
@zdenekkindl2778
@zdenekkindl2778 6 күн бұрын
Bicycles! What is wrong with basic transportation? You ride a bicycle, you get nice looking legs, good lungs and money in your walet…? You can give every gas station you pass a finger!
@Pulverrostmannen
@Pulverrostmannen 6 күн бұрын
@@zdenekkindl2778 If you pay for the Ambulance and healthcare I will need from doing it 80km a day I can do it. But I warn you. I have a broken hip joint and heart decease what they call Sinus tachycardia and high blood pressure. I also suffer from chronic Migraine and Cluster headache which leaves me stranded in pain almost daily and when I strain myself it gets much much worse too. The doctors already feed me with a lot of different medicines to keep me on my legs and the medicine I take for this had the side effects of physical activity giving me fever up to above 39C and flu like symptoms and I lose all strength and sweat like a maniac until I take a break. The heart medicine I take don’t really make good combination with exercise since I take maximum doze or 100mg of Beta blockers every day to keep the heart rate below dangerous average speed. The other medicine have the negative side of making me not work getting cold or vibrate or my hands hurt and lock up until I heat them up or wait for some time again. So taking a bike is not really a good option for me. I would probably drop dead somewhere by the road if I did in my current state I got lucky with the bad luck lottery
@EndlessNine9999
@EndlessNine9999 3 күн бұрын
​@@zdenekkindl2778I drive around 75km everyday, 90% of that Is highway, diesel is the most suitable choice for me. If my workplace was around 5km away from me then yes, but otherwise It makes no sense. Plus there Is no infrastructure for long trips on bycycles
@silyenn
@silyenn 19 күн бұрын
Amazing explaination. Clean, organized, methodical. You could be great teacher, such a talent. Can't wait for more of such content. Cheers
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 19 күн бұрын
And no one is going to evaluate the video, check the facts, investigate the cited sources, or reach a different conclusion. It's just too confident, articulate, and full of seeming logic and statistics to be a problem.
@court2379
@court2379 19 күн бұрын
​@@exothermal.sprocketNot no-one. I plan to investigate the NOx emissions stuff more thoroughly. The last data I saw on it did show negative effects, but were studied at concentrations that far exceeded what actually occurred in the environment, which to me made their claims inconclusive. At lower concentrations the effects could be negligible. From what he has said here, it sounds like better data is available. I also found the absence of comparison to the US a bit odd
@fred8281
@fred8281 18 күн бұрын
@@court2379 " I plan to investigate the NOx emissions stuff more thoroughly. ..." I suggest that you also investigate the role of NOx in the formation of smog.
@Art_Vandelay_Industries
@Art_Vandelay_Industries 19 күн бұрын
There was so much work put into this video. Such an interesting and important topic and very well presented
@Flitalidapouet
@Flitalidapouet 14 күн бұрын
Very well done mini documentary.
@gillesvanleeuwen
@gillesvanleeuwen 7 күн бұрын
Very nice Summary!
@FranNDR
@FranNDR 19 күн бұрын
Fer years, being a mechanic, I've been trying to explain some of the content of this video with people and organisations but they always looked at me like I'm crazy or something. Thank you so much for explaining it all so well going back to the source of all this mess
@zacwayne1181
@zacwayne1181 17 күн бұрын
only few knows truth, the most just will not wake up
@TheFulcrum2000
@TheFulcrum2000 19 күн бұрын
About poisoning citizens, you might want to research TEL (tetraethyllead). Back in these days, the poisoning by normal gas was a much bigger issues then diesel.
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 19 күн бұрын
And after living though all of that, I'm still here...
@atherrien95
@atherrien95 19 күн бұрын
Of course. Those who died early aren't really able to argue their point are they?
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 19 күн бұрын
@@atherrien95 it's not about saving lives, it's about reducing the financail burdon of healthcare.
@martso9288
@martso9288 19 күн бұрын
Leaded petrolium... Oh yeah, I'm feeling it now.
@mikosoft
@mikosoft 19 күн бұрын
​@@LoremIpsum1970congratulation. Check out Veritasium video on leaded petrol. You'll learn what actually happened to you.
@user-qg3cl4uy9x
@user-qg3cl4uy9x 14 күн бұрын
I think a lot of people feel backstabbed, manufacturers even. Late 90s and early 00s diesel was coming along fast fast fast and millions were being pumped into diesel development. By the mid 00s it was Peugeot vs Audi in Le mans, proudly carrying the HDi FAP and TDI names. Diesel was the way ahead. PSA has the HDi, VAG has the TDI, Fiat/Alfa has the Multijet etc. All have been developed to such a high standard only to be told now that it's worth nothing. Euro 6 has made diesels reach a new level of ridicolousness in terms of complexity (and evenb worse for proposed Euro 7), and I would go as far as saying a Euro 6 diesel vehicle in't worth buying as a private owner if you plan to own outside of warranty. Horrible adblue systems on top of complex DPFs, expensive injectors, dual-mass flywheels etc plus the demonisation and high (only going higher) tax of diesels. Won't be heeding advice on fuels from governments anymore, simply keeping what's fixable and workable until the end.
@electricalinput5999
@electricalinput5999 3 күн бұрын
Let's hope electric doesn't become the next diesel, as that's what all the governments have decided to promote
@dokterkarel
@dokterkarel 13 күн бұрын
I worked in the automotive industry in Belgium and I can confirm that until 2011 90% of the cars sold and driven were diesels. Tax benefits for those who bought a diesel because they claimed it polluted less (which was a lie), only later to find out on the long term it did not pollute less. I'm afraid this is what we might be doing with electric cars now. How beneficial will they be on long term?
@kotlolish
@kotlolish 9 күн бұрын
Electric cars "may" pollute less. The only way to know for sure is "getting the numbers." But as it is now... if all gas/benzine/diesel power cars are replaced with electrical cars. Not only will it fail to work in certain countries cause electrical motors FAIL a lot on mountainous areas. But we got the following costs: - Making all the cars. - Ion battery costs (envoirmental costs to make em) - Demolishing all gas stations. - Transport costs for materials (Those ships and planes ain't gonna be electrical powered!) - Every garage needing to get new tools and manuals to fix cars. - All the waste generated from replacing combustion engines/cars/etc. And that's just the envoirmental costs for TRANSITIONING into electrical cars. The long term effects are: - Increased Power Grid usage. (What we burning to power these electrical cars) - Ion battery disposals. (These things are more TOXIC then the CO2 we pump into the air. Essentially this is Nuclear vs Coal like debates. Nuclear is cleaner cause it's more effecient and the nuclear waste that remains can be safely delt with, same goes for Ion minus the explosive chances). Essentially on the short term, replace every car with electircal ones is already a bad idea. On the long term is STILL unknown, but most likely BAD. Cause while we are removing emissions everywhere at once spread out. We are focussing it on power companies... who.. if you know most EU countries.. are already saying: "Due to the technological boom and more demand for power, we cannot add more to the grid or else it will overload." i know this is a problem in several EU countries already... so now imagine every home having to have 1 electrical mode of transportation like a Car or bike. The only way to truely know how much those Ion batteries take and put pressure on the electrical grid and how much "emission" per electrical car would be put on. We cannot know. And before someone retorts, "But what about green power sources??" Windmills produce as bad as pollutants as power plants too, No CO2 but Nitrogen wich has a longer half life then CO2 and doens't get absorbed by plants and trees... and are more unreliable. Where as Solar Farms are safe as well as hydro-plants. If not a lil bit more reliable then Wind Turbines. The best is geothermal but we don't have that in the EU. So the next best thing is Nuclear or Thorium. Wich France is heavily investing in.... Where as Germany is removing it and found out they replaced it with ... Gas... And the Netherlands decided to go with Biomass.. wich is.. just burning trees. Anyway this was a huge side tagent about electrical cars and emissions, but in truth... Electrical car emissions is NOT 0. It's only 0 if electricity production is 0. But as it is now.. transitioning to full electric cars is IMPOSSIBLE and might do more damage in the long run then sticking to normal cars.
@dokterkarel
@dokterkarel 9 күн бұрын
@@kotlolish to sum it up: all costs and pollution combined: are electric cars really environmental friendly? No. So I hope we take all of this in consideration before waving tax refunds around only to find out in the long term we didn't resolve anything.
@kotlolish
@kotlolish 9 күн бұрын
@@dokterkarel Exactly, I am not an expert..I lack alot of data, but from what I know.. the answer is no. It be better, cheaper and overall 10 times better. To develop alternative fuels that do not pollute. Mostly since Oil is a limited resource , but electric ain't it.
@EndlessNine9999
@EndlessNine9999 3 күн бұрын
The difference Is that diesel cars actually work whereas EVs have no Place in this society, are toxic, prone tò autocombustion and weigh a lot
@kotlolish
@kotlolish 3 күн бұрын
@@EndlessNine9999 This is too biased and harsh opinion to be honest. But I will elaborate it for you and others. Yes Electrical vehicles are much heavier then current cars. Infact... alot of roads in the EU will be UNABLE to deal with EVs going over it on a daily basis, causing them to break appart faster and making more pods holes. Thus road taxes will go up supposably or all roads have to redone. This weight and podhole problem actually leads into the other two problems: Toxic and prone to combustion. The batteries on these things are extremely toxic and violitile, worst then gasoline. If an EV explodes...the chemicals it releases into the air will do MUCH LARGER DAMAGE then a CAR EXPLODING. The worst chemicals a normal car can fly into the air is the plastics it might have or the car battery, but the Ion batteries? MUCH WORST! It's like burning 20 car batteries at minimal. And what sets these things off to explode? Shaking and heat... wich... as you guessed.. roads get hot and with more podholes, makes shaking more, increasing the risk. So why is this a "BAD" opinion? Cause we are still developing this technology as we speak. But we are talking about problems that are easily fixed. I already spoken on the toxic in a previous comment. But the autocombustion part? That's the same thing of saying any car can explode due to a faulty part. It's a very weak one. Though them being too heavy for some roads.. Yea I forgot to add that, but the only heavy EVs are the big luxurious ones, you can have lighter ones and the basic consumer will not be buying Tesla's. Thus I didn't bring it up, cause this loop is kinda...fixable. Especially on a long term basis. If we are talking on a short term basis? Yea these things make it worst, but on long term... these problems are very neglectable considering early cars also had these risks.
@Justice-Seeker
@Justice-Seeker 19 күн бұрын
This is surprisingly similar to the story around leaded gasoline. If you're unfamiliar with it look it up. Possibly significantly worse than the diesel impact. And there were countries still using leaded gas up until a decade ago, possibly even later than that.
@SplendidMisanthropy
@SplendidMisanthropy 19 күн бұрын
They will find a way to demonize and tax all electric vehicles also as their aim is to ban individual traffic as a step towards their utopia in which only the most equal ones are allowed to own a car.
@pauloconnor7951
@pauloconnor7951 19 күн бұрын
And the unleaded is made from a cheaper fuel stock; which releases even more neurological toxin/s.
@javaguru7141
@javaguru7141 19 күн бұрын
Crops from those countries are chock full of lead now, too. Eg. rice and ginger from India.
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 19 күн бұрын
Look up in the sky. See those small prop planes flying around? Cessna ect? They must all fly on leaded fuel called aviation gas.
@7sins979
@7sins979 19 күн бұрын
Not probably, definitely. And leaded gas is still available, but at least here in the US, it is not supposed to be used in on highway vehicles.
@rastislavsmolek8140
@rastislavsmolek8140 19 күн бұрын
Every technology has advantages and disadvantages... Diesel that is not burned by cars is most likely burned to make electricity or it is sold to be burned elsewhere.
@Paciat
@Paciat 19 күн бұрын
Yes, but it wont be burned in city centers polluting people.
@anon556
@anon556 19 күн бұрын
​​​@@Paciat 😂😂 you have 0 idea how pollution works or what a diesel engine emitts... Please show me the diesel powered generation station in the middle of any city. You can't. Please show me the output of a modern diesel engine and explain how it's "polluting people" you sound like a 4 year old...
@dadoVRC
@dadoVRC 19 күн бұрын
There's something different in burning diesel fuel in a power station rather than in a diesel vehicle. Power stations are efficient and they can manage their emissions a lot better than a million cars starting from cold and being driven in the traffic.
@Buffalo_Soldier
@Buffalo_Soldier 19 күн бұрын
@@anon556 He said it WON'T be burned in city center. it won't = "it will not". In other words - person you responded to prefers diesel to be burned for power production than to be burned by cars in the middle of city. Considering your response, I don't think you even have different stance, are you? As for output of modern diesel engine, maybe it's not polluting people. But eu is removing from market cars with old diesel engines, not new ones.
@talibong9518
@talibong9518 18 күн бұрын
@@Buffalo_Soldier Must be all those diesel particulates making him dumb
@BaKer312213
@BaKer312213 8 күн бұрын
lovely report, thank you
@matyev-hcuabg
@matyev-hcuabg Күн бұрын
Diesel is efficient, and diesel production is part of petrol production, so cannot be avoided
@personaldronerepair6141
@personaldronerepair6141 19 күн бұрын
Very few channels on the this platform offer a comprehensive and complete presentation such as this. I truly become smarter every time a view this channel. Thank You! Keep 'Em Coming!!
@krashd
@krashd 10 күн бұрын
So long as you spend very little time in the comments ;)
@crissd8283
@crissd8283 18 күн бұрын
What??? The government got something wrong? No way. Im sure this is a one off and will never happen again. We can certainly trust the government to get stuff like this right next time. Government is full of experts and will get stuff right from now on.
@bertsteenbergen6729
@bertsteenbergen6729 8 күн бұрын
Great video!!!
@thatguy2608
@thatguy2608 13 күн бұрын
A very smooth presentation. 25 minutes went by like 5. Well done.
@alangilbert6544
@alangilbert6544 19 күн бұрын
Thank you for making these - very impressed.
@SandraPhillips-cb5og
@SandraPhillips-cb5og 19 күн бұрын
Really digging your videos, keep it real!
@lorddoosworth8175
@lorddoosworth8175 19 күн бұрын
the bots are watching engineering videos to gain knowledge for their self preservation
@rushelm8101
@rushelm8101 14 күн бұрын
Great delivery!
@kevincampbell1395
@kevincampbell1395 7 күн бұрын
This is the kind of real analysis that's valuable here
@b1646717
@b1646717 19 күн бұрын
When i hear "gas converted to diesel," I immediately think of the Olds 350 grenades.
@patdurt023
@patdurt023 19 күн бұрын
This one is a little different as Volkswagen got technical development and assistance from Deutz, when building their first diesel engines.
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 19 күн бұрын
Diesel engine runaways is something to behold!
@TheMightyT1
@TheMightyT1 19 күн бұрын
​@@LoremIpsum1970No the Olds was known for blowing head gaskets and leaking from pretty much every orifice, not to mention not making power relative to its displacement. Parts are hard to come by for the madmen who still drive them and not much is known because despite being in pretty much everything GM made, it was such a hated option not many people bought it and Oldsmobile basically pretended it never happened and swept it under the rug.
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 19 күн бұрын
@@TheMightyT1 General Motors singlehandedly ruined diesel engines in the US for 40 years with that half assed diesel "experiment" that cost participants so much grief. They should have been fined billions for fraud.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 19 күн бұрын
They were great with the DX block.
@tomy8339
@tomy8339 19 күн бұрын
Awesome video. Very thorough.
@Freebaggin
@Freebaggin 13 күн бұрын
Brilliant mate!
@GavinM161
@GavinM161 12 күн бұрын
This was a heavy one... But certainly well researched. Thank you.
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