The Difference Between WWII & Vietnam

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PowerfulJRE

PowerfulJRE

2 жыл бұрын

Taken from JRE #1820 w/Jack Carr:
open.spotify.com/episode/4Tq2...

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@Ryan-th9zm
@Ryan-th9zm Жыл бұрын
I used to work at a gas station when I was younger and I had a customer who was this older black man who would tell me stories about his time in Vietnam. One day during one of his stories I shook his hand and said thank you for your service because I know you guys got treated horribly when you came back so I want to show gratitude for what you guys went through. He started crying in middle of the store very quietly and said “thank you young man that means so much to me, no one has ever said that to me before”.
@misaelfraga8196
@misaelfraga8196 Жыл бұрын
Wow that broke my heart reading your comment.
@BishopWalters12
@BishopWalters12 Жыл бұрын
Very sad.
@brandonbailey5845
@brandonbailey5845 Жыл бұрын
💜
@carterneis8469
@carterneis8469 Жыл бұрын
Wow. The men that went over there went to protect their brothers next to them and us. The government is the only one in the US Military with ulterior motives.
@lotty4006
@lotty4006 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t happen
@catfunt3404
@catfunt3404 2 жыл бұрын
We shouldn’t have been in Vietnam but the way veterans were treated was absolutely deplorable.
@joseureste8257
@joseureste8257 2 жыл бұрын
I found thank welcoming home those vets makes an impact on the ones who were forced to go. They never got that back then
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen 2 жыл бұрын
I have mixed feelings about Vietnam, but holy crap did we make a huge mistake when we stopped sending supplies and weapons to the ARVN.
@MrKT410
@MrKT410 2 жыл бұрын
We shouldn't have went 80% of Vietnamese were going to follow Ho Chi Minh who happen to be a communist making winning such a war impossible but the US was justified to defend people who didn't want to be made slaves under a communist system. For example the US was 100% justified in Korea yet the situations are very similar to Vietnam with the main exception being many Koreans didn't want to fall under communist rule.
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@lovel7838 2 жыл бұрын
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@lovel7838 2 жыл бұрын
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@supergrendel
@supergrendel Жыл бұрын
There's a guy in my town we call "mean Gene". He's now 99 years old and is a WWII vet. He watched his son commit suicide by gun in his driveway, lost his wife of 70 years to cancer and had a major stroke that has since paralyzed his left arm and nearly all of his left leg but he can still get around with a cane. He served in the Pacific theatre. Anyhow, Gene was on a transport ship and the Japanese pilots would come down real low almost to the water line and use our transport ships as shields from the gunships because they sat higher in the water and would come up over the tops of our lighter less important ships to attack the more important ones. Gene would stand on the open deck of his transport ship and throw potatoes at the Japanese Zero pilots. I don't think the reaper will take this man for fear of him.
@nirvanic3610
@nirvanic3610 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a guy who lost everything that's worth it. My condolences.
@kennybakerhvacr5751
@kennybakerhvacr5751 Жыл бұрын
I love you Gene. When Men were Men seems like an appropriate sentence right now
@dedpool_69
@dedpool_69 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@brazyrist
@brazyrist Жыл бұрын
To come from hell and back and watch his son not make it is a different type of hell these Old timers were different
@wolfy5svn945
@wolfy5svn945 Жыл бұрын
there’s an 80 year old man that lives in a home behind my apartments and occasionally he runs around naked…he has dementia from when he served in vietnam as a tunnel rat…
@Nunya310
@Nunya310 Жыл бұрын
My uncle had a shit ton of medals from Vietnam, he was a green beret that was highly decorated and had a thousand yard stare anytime I ever saw him. My cousin and I one time asked him what it was like and he looked both of us directly in the eyes and said we’d never hear about it from him. Definitely got the vibe he’d seen some shit. RIP Uncle wayne…
@thecausalgamer7916
@thecausalgamer7916 Жыл бұрын
My grandma’s third husband was a crew chief on the AC-47 and he would rarely tell stories. If he had a few drinks he would say a few things but not a lot
@jamesowens2675
@jamesowens2675 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry. Maybe it was your age....too young. You should have asked him 18+. I've been through some shit and if it had an impact on me or a valuable lesson, it's going to be in your head regardless. That "I'll never tell you about it" especially if it's a meaningful lesson/insight usually means they were changing the tires and didn't have a necklace made of ears or you are too young. Death before your eyes, even a stranger is a tragedy. Honestly, I think soldiers should be 35+ cuz I would trade my life 10 times over for that of an 18,19 year old who hasn't had a chance at life yet. But, they need them young and impressionable minds otherwise America + Pol Pot killed 5 million SE Asians via a false flag bombing their own ship then jumped and destabilized Central/South America cuz it's fun. Then the middle East.....twice. Next is Africa then back to Europe Again because Australia and Antarctica aren't in the destruction rotation......yet.
@sweptinblack
@sweptinblack Жыл бұрын
@@jamesowens2675 What you said really made me think. It's true though. I'm not a vet but I've seen death and other terrible things because growing up in US inner city. I can't imagine the full brutality of what soldiers in combat deal with. Especially when it goes beyond conventional warfare and women and children get involved. It has happened in every modern war. Imagine storming Berlin and some 13 year old scared kid is pointing a rifle at you, how do you handle that? I don't know what I'd do. Probably try to talk him down and get killed lol. My grandads were in Korea and Pacific ww2, it destroyed them both with alcohol. Wish I could get some wisdom from them, but evidently there was none. Just pain.
@martiniar11
@martiniar11 Жыл бұрын
Poor man and management
@inyourgranmaass3605
@inyourgranmaass3605 Жыл бұрын
What a sucker
@daddymcpapi7520
@daddymcpapi7520 2 жыл бұрын
my neighbor, Sam Hunt, was at Pearl Harbor. He told his story when I was in my late 20s. Sam was on a minesweeper and heard the chaos above decks. He ran up to the top deck to see Japanese planes bombing and strafing. He told me he jumped back into the stairwell and knocked his front 2 teeth out. His CO came up the stairwell and threw up when he saw Sam's bloody face. He told me they were able to get underway and made it out of the Harbor. After that, I cleaned his pool, did yard work etc and wanted nothing. He wouldn't accept something for nothing and would always press 10 bucks in my hand. it was literally less than 2 bucks an hour but I knew his pride was involved so I thanked him. when he passed away, I did the same work around the house for his wife for cookies, brownies, etc. I'll never forget it and glad for it.
@tomaspalacios2826
@tomaspalacios2826 Жыл бұрын
Respect ✊🏽
@bobepilepapa4359
@bobepilepapa4359 Жыл бұрын
you're a good person
@user-oy9zy4ds9m
@user-oy9zy4ds9m Жыл бұрын
FDR let Pearl Harbor happen he knew full well the Japanese were going to attack that’s why the all important aircraft carriers were at sea , not even near Pearl. He needed it as an excuse to get into the war.
@santiagolara8070
@santiagolara8070 Жыл бұрын
@@user-oy9zy4ds9m not the first time or last
@fabioribeiro5071
@fabioribeiro5071 Жыл бұрын
@@user-oy9zy4ds9m unfortunately it’s true.
@tvelis513
@tvelis513 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather went into Normandy on a glider behind the lines with the 82nd Airborne. He was a SSgt. and he only ever said that he did his job just like everyone else. I hope they all know just how special what they did was. RIP grandpa 1921-1999.
@pablo-ismael6045
@pablo-ismael6045 2 жыл бұрын
God bless him. Respect ✊🏻
@Jackjohnjay
@Jackjohnjay 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was at Normandy, too. He never talked about it but he did just what the speaker said -came back, started a successful business, raised a great family. I'm not sure how he escaped ptsd or any vices but he and many did. I think they were appreciated, had faith, knew it was a just cause and just moved on.
@lazyrider6918
@lazyrider6918 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, now you have these DOUCHE@#@s who come back and jockey to take credit for "being the guy to kill Osama Bid Laden" and movies like "The Sniper" that glorify as sharpshooter who didn't do anything remarkable other than "his job". Nothing like the men of old. Look at these 2 "MACHO MEN" smoking cigars acting like they know what they are talking about.
@hdhdhdhhdhdhhdhdhf3479
@hdhdhdhhdhdhhdhdhf3479 2 жыл бұрын
My grandpa was at Normandy too, crazy to think how young they were, young brave but terrified boys, fighting off an American invasion
@solodolo_mma3971
@solodolo_mma3971 2 жыл бұрын
Salute to your grandfather. He was a badass! 👏🏼✊🏼
@KIN_KOLO
@KIN_KOLO Жыл бұрын
Both my Grandfather's were WW2 Veterans and my father was a Vietnam Veteran. They all had horrific stories and never really bounced back from the traumas they experienced. No therapy, or support from the government at all. I now know my dad had undiagnosed PTSD, would wake up screaming, and kept a gun under his bed. The sacrifice these men make is for LIFE, not just the duration of their tour.
@Priceluked
@Priceluked Жыл бұрын
The initial question at the beginning of the clip was inadvertantly answered I feel. You can describe all of these heroic events and battles in WW2, the difference between it and conflicts like Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, Syria, etc. is those conflicts are long, drawn out, and fought for unclear reasons to the public and without any definable end goal in mind.
@ArkaeaFCL3
@ArkaeaFCL3 2 жыл бұрын
I love what he said in the beginning about language. It reminds me of something that George Carlin said. "They want to control your language because that's how you control thought. Because we do think in language. So the quality of our thoughts, actions and ideas can only be as good as the quality of our language." I just felt like I had to point that out.
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@osmosisjones4912 2 жыл бұрын
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@isaacdebebe2224
@isaacdebebe2224 2 жыл бұрын
Good point
@jpmccray6754
@jpmccray6754 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent observation 👌.
@Ryan88881
@Ryan88881 2 жыл бұрын
Very McKennaian
@Simon-talks
@Simon-talks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Biden
@pammathers2134
@pammathers2134 Жыл бұрын
I worked in a VA hospital in the late 80’s, my patients were the remaining WW2 vets. It was one of the best experiences of a 37 year nursing career! They were phenomenal men!
@JN-wn1kw
@JN-wn1kw Жыл бұрын
Truly the greatest generation
@user-oy9zy4ds9m
@user-oy9zy4ds9m Жыл бұрын
Lol they had no problems allowing 100,000 Americans to be held in concentration camps without charge or trial for the duration of the war….
@badxradxandy
@badxradxandy Жыл бұрын
2007 my first pt was on Omaha beach. Saw an old guy walking around the grocery store wearing a ww2 vet hat in march 2020.
@dr2759
@dr2759 Жыл бұрын
OMG, talk about an oral history that needs to be put to paper by VA staff.
@mks9469
@mks9469 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow!!! I would have been fired because I would have stopped to talk to each of them and listen to their stories.
@jakecozzz1040
@jakecozzz1040 Жыл бұрын
My grandpa was a battle vet from ww2 he was born 11-11-1919 he had bad PTSD he slept with a loaded 357 under his pillow he would tell us crazy stories about how after they took the beach his tank driver had lost his mind and would drive over the bloated bodies to hear them pop and all the men had to tie him up. He went into the war a racist and by the time he came out he realized how foolish his beliefs really were. Made him question God and everything he was taught his whole life. Rest easy pop.
@hotfeva9843
@hotfeva9843 Жыл бұрын
My grandpa served as well he used to sleep with his rifle next to the bed, I could remember his PTSD kicking in a few times he would hop up and do a full march and salute, then go bizerk glad my grandma took the bullets a long time ago.
@danschumacher5427
@danschumacher5427 Жыл бұрын
Did he stop being racist
@jakecozzz1040
@jakecozzz1040 Жыл бұрын
@@danschumacher5427 I'd say about 90 percent yea. He still would stereotype people He definitely tried his hardest to change. I mean he was born in Texas around the kkk, My aunt married a Mexican guy and have 3 kids by him and he loved his granddaughters very much by the time he passed I'd say he wasnt racist at all.
@txm2477
@txm2477 Жыл бұрын
Id be glad the tank driver was on his side
@snowfrosty1
@snowfrosty1 Жыл бұрын
@@jakecozzz1040 he was definitely STILL racist, being 'racist' doesn't automatically mean bad person though. De-program & re-educate yourself bud.
@goatbaaad3711
@goatbaaad3711 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I see a Vietnam vet I always shake their hand and say welcome home. It honestly is the best feeling seeing their faces afterwards
@chileanwey
@chileanwey 2 жыл бұрын
He’s right, somehow we stopped holding our politicians accountable. I never liked Nixon but he had the decency of resigning, and that’s respectable.
@SoakintheSchadenfreude
@SoakintheSchadenfreude 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically did exactly the same thing as LBJ did but just didn't have the press in his corner.
@keefeD146
@keefeD146 2 жыл бұрын
If he'd knew how politics were played in today's world, he would of stayed 💯
@DragoBone24
@DragoBone24 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t Nixon responsible for going behind the back of the American government and LBJ’s administration and talking to the South Vietnamese? And didn’t he essentially extend the war by years as he (or his associates) told them not to accept a peace deal?
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@lovel7838 2 жыл бұрын
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@Xxkbtje919xX
@Xxkbtje919xX 2 жыл бұрын
My dad took me to Normandy and Ohama Beach when I was around 10 (22 now). I remember it so well, the mass burials with crosses and bunkers. At that time it didn’t really hit me because I was too young, but looking back at it man… Wow. So grateful for those unimaginably brave men who fought for OUR freedom, something we take for granted so much nowadays. Taking yourself through the experience of imagining what that was like really changes your view of the world. I’m so grateful my dad took me there to do just that when I was younger.
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@aceeduventures 2 жыл бұрын
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@tac6044
@tac6044 2 жыл бұрын
Rich kid
@alexdowd02
@alexdowd02 2 жыл бұрын
@@tac6044 take a look at yourself brother
@jimwallington437
@jimwallington437 2 жыл бұрын
The majority of these men were from poor backgrounds and their families and friends are still poor. Wars are rich people fighting other rich people using poor people as fodder for the cannons.
@dangerous8333
@dangerous8333 2 жыл бұрын
They weren't necessarily brave. Just drafted.
@lilyouyou
@lilyouyou Жыл бұрын
My respect for past soldiers shot threw the roof after my history class in college. Reading world history, war, and what those young men at the time went through really put things into perspective for me. I hope I’m able to teach my kids the same as he did with his little girl, what that generation did for us I will forever be appreciative and thankful for.
@yalbad5160
@yalbad5160 Жыл бұрын
The men who fought against them were a 1000 braver.
@zmoah8184
@zmoah8184 Жыл бұрын
My great grandpa was part of the chosen few he’s told me super sad stories of how they came close to death, and how most of them lost their toes hands etc.. my grandpa even showed me his toes and there were only 3 on each… but the forgotten war isn’t talked much enough sad for what they all went through being from being ambushed to making it though the cold.. Rip all fallen soldiers
@pookienumnums
@pookienumnums 2 жыл бұрын
my grandfather was in ww2, the korean conflict, and vietnam. he was a proud american. even though he said he didnt think everything the government did was right, and that they needed to take better care of the men and women who serve, he was proud to be an american mostly because of the bonds he formed with men and women in the service. he was raised by racist people, in a racist area, but he military completely changed him. he said you didnt care what color the men were next to you, only whether or not they had your back. and they did. they had eachothers backs. brothers in arms, truly. rest in peace grandpa, i wish i had been more mature while you were around, to ask you more about your life experiences.
@Jack-yq6ui
@Jack-yq6ui 2 жыл бұрын
Amen. Rest in peace.
@Vekenstein
@Vekenstein 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that way about both my Grandpas. Was too young to ask them the important questions and now it’s too late.
@LUIGIRACER69
@LUIGIRACER69 2 жыл бұрын
ggs my friend
@kinghenryxl1747
@kinghenryxl1747 2 жыл бұрын
Jack Carr has an unrealistic and mythical perception of history. America was not this great country that "never whined' or "stuck together " to get things done. We had serious problems... -There were 4,000 strikes during WWII. - there were race riots throughout the war beginning in 1942 - Black servicemen returning from Europe and the Pacific were attacked by racist lynch mobs in the South - Hollywood released films that dehumanized the Japanese and films that portrayed black soldiers as incompetent cowards. - Women who worked in traditionally male jobs were fired en-masse to to accommodate returning GIs after the war ended
@Gerthmagic
@Gerthmagic 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t want to live in Mexico… am I racist ?
@DawsDaws860
@DawsDaws860 2 жыл бұрын
The real difference: we were the liberating force in WW2, and the occupying force in Vietnam
@tinto278
@tinto278 Жыл бұрын
Difference is a military conflict and total all out war. WW2 was the last time a western country was at total war. People don't understand what total war means.
@jerry85g7
@jerry85g7 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@stevieo2716
@stevieo2716 Жыл бұрын
also, we won WWII
@viracocha6093
@viracocha6093 Жыл бұрын
What? North Vietnam would only take the South by force. Not that we shouldve been there of course
@_VISION.
@_VISION. Жыл бұрын
The US only liberates for their own gain. The whole world knows that
@lilcheezebag1708
@lilcheezebag1708 Жыл бұрын
I think that as soon as war became profitable, conflicts became easy to justify
@PullupTight
@PullupTight Жыл бұрын
I am 26 and already medically retired from the Army after serving in Iraq & Syria. I miss the brotherhood but I also miss the ones we lost. I really don’t know what to do with my life now since it feels like I have no purpose but I just try to live on for the ones who didn’t make it
@briccathiusgaming
@briccathiusgaming Жыл бұрын
Keep pushing soldier, you got people believing in you, things get better big dawg. stay blessed!
@wlidbill5261
@wlidbill5261 Жыл бұрын
hoorah dont you ever give up your not pushing daisies yet
@miguelsalgado723
@miguelsalgado723 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to give my Thanks to you and your Brothers in arms. You guys really go far above the call of duty, wish you the best Sir.
@JR-jp7mi
@JR-jp7mi Жыл бұрын
You're young, you'll figure it out. Stay active
@andrewstiegel9730
@andrewstiegel9730 Жыл бұрын
I think purpose isn't always something that's found. Sometimes you have to give yourself the purpose and reason for getting up out of the bed. Do some honest reflection about what you love and how you can turn that into a profitable job. You like being pf service and helping others? Then being a cop or fireman might be right up your alley. Interested in putting things together and building stuff? Then maybe a job in the trades or going to school for engineering is the right fit. If you're suffering from depression or PTSD please don't bottle that up. There are lots of helpful medications and therapists out there that can give you the tools you need to get through. Keep your head up man, even the darkest night eventually gives way to dawn.
@skippyz5603
@skippyz5603 Жыл бұрын
My father and his brothers from Kansas decided that it was their duty to fight for our country and join the Navy right after Peral Harbor.. Dad was sank twice the last he was the sole survivor. He got out in 1945 then went to being a sheriff. 1948 dad reenlisted into into the Army and served during the Korean war. Dad stayed in the Army and saw 3 tours of Vietnam 1st Cav active combat. Purple, bronze, etc... While stationed in Seoul I was born. My mother and her family were refugees from the Korean war. Dad was a big man at 6'4 300+. Dad was a gentle man that loved his country. When I was little I asked about how come the Vietnam war was so bad and horrible (Vietnam flashbacks) and the others wars were not? He told me this a few times that during WW2 we had nothing but the dirt under us. When WW2 broke out it was duty to our country. And said that he had 3 meals a day, fresh clothes and $44 dollars in his pocket. We fought an enemy and we won with the world celebrated. Then the soldiers came home, got the GI bill got homes and started the families. The children of those families grew up with so many new and modern things, High School, automobiles, Prom, drive in's, surfing, ColorTV, etc.. The American dream. Then throw an 19 year old kid with a M16 into the jungles of southeast Asia. I miss my father.
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@suckmyass3569
@suckmyass3569 Жыл бұрын
He was sunk twice… in the army? Then served in Korea… 2 years after re-enlisting? Then did 3 tours (combat tours at that) in Vietnam as, what, a 50 year old? Air cavalry. I call BS dude
@nick12_29
@nick12_29 Жыл бұрын
@@suckmyass3569 well, reading comprehension doesn't seem to your strong suit. Regardless of the stories validity. He said he joined the NAVY after pearl harbor, amd was sunk twice. Then he went on and enlisted in the army. That's the best I can dumb it down, lmk if it helped.
@dizzyizzie6354
@dizzyizzie6354 Жыл бұрын
@@suckmyass3569 its says navy...then reinlisted (Isn't edited either) that's how it was dude. Probably was like 18 if that when he joined. Alot of people in the navy where minors they cared less. I wouldn't be surprised if he was drafted into the army like a lot of others. But to end on a joke maybe it was the usa peoples army navy lol
@JM-wf2to
@JM-wf2to Жыл бұрын
No disrespect to your dad's service But, the Vietnam war wasn't about kids not having the same will tonight because they grew up better....That's idiotic. It's apparent that it was a massive lack of support from the home front and from any allies. The media fueled a fire back home that was the opposite of how the nation came together during WW2. The men have always been every bit as capable,if not more, as generations pass. How the home land backs a war has a massive impact on how efficient it is in war. Funding and recruiting were massive bonuses during WW2. That was a good but different during Vietnam...You're father was and is a hero, I just don't agree with the Vietnam generation not growing up hard scrabble enough making a difference.
@bjkarana
@bjkarana 2 жыл бұрын
One difference in particular that stands out between WW2 and Vietnam was _who_ fought. In WW2, all social classes served, but for Vietnam, it was largely working-class Americans who couldn't get those college deferments or cushy Air National Guard assignments Stateside.
@adamcrisis8442
@adamcrisis8442 2 жыл бұрын
Or the large amount of black Americans drafted and fighting for our "freedoms" that they didnt receive at home. Meanwhile in ww2 they didnt really let black people serve in combat roles until the end.
@bmo5082
@bmo5082 2 жыл бұрын
Look up McNamara’s morons. Very sad
@McYeroc
@McYeroc Жыл бұрын
And the fact that the us had no business going to Vietnam. The Vietnamese wanted independence from French colonists and the us went to stop it. The us were the bad guys that’s the difference between ww2 and Vietnam
@dildobaggins6937
@dildobaggins6937 Жыл бұрын
Also the difference was WWII Germany was the occupying and invading, bad guy force. In Vietnam, America was the occupying, invading and bad guy force.
@bjkarana
@bjkarana Жыл бұрын
@@dildobaggins6937 very true!
@phillipsosa3353
@phillipsosa3353 Жыл бұрын
Got nothing but love for the vets. Its ashame how our government treats them. My granda fought in the korean war, he passed away this year and he was all about honoring vets. He would always make sure we honored them and even at his funeral made sure we honored the vets. When he passed away all the grand sons in our family, which is well over 25 of us got together and had a flag retirement ceremony and we all took turns burning his flag for the final time. He would always do it alone in his backyard on veterans day to honor the vets. He left an amazing legacy and now all his grandchildren, great grandchildren and great great grandchildren get to carry his legacy further.
@wesendhits
@wesendhits Жыл бұрын
This guy seems really passionate for someone who didn’t live through those events.
@ssppaarrttaanns2476
@ssppaarrttaanns2476 2 жыл бұрын
I think the difference was that in ww2 there was a clear cut villain with Hitler that needed to be stopped. I’m Vietnam a lot of the soldiers didn’t even know why they were there and what they were killing for. The soldiers were used and essentially thrown away for the interests of people who didn’t care about them at all
@e2320483
@e2320483 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Putin, the Russian soldiers that didn't know why they were there, just a "special operation".
@intello8953
@intello8953 2 жыл бұрын
@Ман ван данн lol ok buddy
@FL00P
@FL00P Жыл бұрын
@Ман ван данн band kid ong
@mr.melendez3872
@mr.melendez3872 Жыл бұрын
Like every war since
@willia3r
@willia3r Жыл бұрын
@Ман ван данн 🇻🇳Vietnam never invaded the 🇺🇸USA nor any of its territories though. Plus, the Civil Rights movement came into play, which amplified the anger over unresolved issues such as discrimination against minority veterans from previous conflicts like WWII.
@Philusteen
@Philusteen 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't understand why he couldn't put his finger on it. It feels insincere, considering he should know better. We entered WWII after we were attacked; prior to that the country was mixed on whether or not Axis aggression should be confronted directly. Vietnam was a twisted side-step into a gruesome conflict with motivations that were questionable at best, and confusing to citizens.
@goldenfishy88
@goldenfishy88 2 жыл бұрын
‼️‼️ 100%
@K33176
@K33176 Жыл бұрын
.The “Why” of WWII was simple, but the “Why”s of Korea and Vietnam required two weeks of Indoc…
@orange_sauce5951
@orange_sauce5951 Жыл бұрын
@@K33176 But can easily be summarized as "commies bad"
@user-oy9zy4ds9m
@user-oy9zy4ds9m Жыл бұрын
FDR knew the Japanese were going to attack , the aircraft carriers were all at sea …..
@ryanshinermusic
@ryanshinermusic Жыл бұрын
We occupied Vietnam since the ‘50s but we officially went into war after the Tonkin Gulf Incident
@thecausalgamer7916
@thecausalgamer7916 Жыл бұрын
Vietnam vets were treated the worst when they came home which really was something sad to learn
@destytayzo77
@destytayzo77 Жыл бұрын
Yea after we tried to drug the viernamese we did it to ourselves. under raegan he gave them opium and then gave our citizens drugs in us the clinton implements laws against the same drugs they brought in the fucking country and used in viernam in china in africa. All over over the works our government corrupts. Theyll destroy this planet in an attempt to control it
@yalbad5160
@yalbad5160 Жыл бұрын
Rightfully so!
@thecausalgamer7916
@thecausalgamer7916 Жыл бұрын
@@yalbad5160 yeah because it’s not the government who ordered all the messed up things to happen. They are perfect. Like the song war pigs go “politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out to fight? They leave that all to the poor” the next time you have a thought just let it go.
@paulyboy1951
@paulyboy1951 Жыл бұрын
My father and my friend's father were both in WW2. My friend's father won the silver star for rescuing a wounded soldier during a fire fight. He said he didn't do anything more than many others did. The mindset of those soldiers fascinates me. To overcome the terror in their mind and function like that. We have lost the greatest generation.
@CBUCK1994
@CBUCK1994 10 ай бұрын
he did alot more than many others if he got a silver star
@expandedhistory
@expandedhistory 2 жыл бұрын
The way we treated our Veterans from Vietnam compared to the Veterans coming from World War 2 was absolutely atrocious. This was the distinct factor in my opinion. Being a History teacher, I find extreme valuable in teaching students in the classroom this difference when discussing the Vietnam War. It was a shifting of cultures among society and the military. No Veteran should be treated in such a way.
@clc-gl4jn
@clc-gl4jn 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@zaidahmed2112
@zaidahmed2112 2 жыл бұрын
@@redneckshaman3099 thanks for sharing buddy,not sure how its related to vets but cool
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@stockontruthchannel2631 2 жыл бұрын
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@Patrick3183
@Patrick3183 2 жыл бұрын
No, it’s meaningless. We have pivoted back since 9/11 to extreme respect towards the military.
@lou1958
@lou1958 2 жыл бұрын
I've been privileged to be good friends with two Vietnam combat veterans over the decades. They are gone now. We sometimes would get drunk/fucked up and the stories they would tell were beyond anything I could ever endure. Being the pussy I am. I loved these guys. They didn't serve together, but were Marine Force Recon, one tall and muscular and the other short and built like a bull. Both were generous and outgoing, but you could see the inner pain they carried. Both had crazy experiences as well as painful struggles in that war with the scars to prove it. I'm talking last man alive stuff. Our government shit on these brave men and still has a long way to go to make it right for everyone who serves in combat for America.
@trogman43988
@trogman43988 2 жыл бұрын
Can you share some of their stories? Obviously no names but I’m curious
@undefinedvariable8085
@undefinedvariable8085 2 жыл бұрын
@@trogman43988 +1 I'd also be interested to hear their stories related.
@lou1958
@lou1958 2 жыл бұрын
@@trogman43988 I'm not a good storyteller, and those guys were captivating, if only for the authenticity of their experiences. One told me of the time he was assigned to a "shotgun squad" way up North to assassinate a high-ranking NVA officer. He simply knocked on the guy's door at night and blew him away. While moving to their extract they were ambushed and got into hand-to-hand combat. When it was over he was alone and covered in blood and the guys he was with dead. He made it back to the base and what he remembered most was taking off his bloody and torn uniform, reaching into a pocket, and pulling out a human finger. He just sat there looking at it and laughed like a madman. He was one of the most calm, intelligent, and friendly men I've known. And was successful as well in his career. Agent Orange eventually murdered him.
@thethaovatoquoc312
@thethaovatoquoc312 Жыл бұрын
Great valor from those 2 friends of yours! Don't let anyone mislead you to think Vietnam War was useless. Hindsight is always 20/20. Without US forces, currently free and prosperous South Korea wouldn't exist today. Vietnam situation was exactly the same, but the Vietnam's landlock geography ultimately make the massive infiltration of North Vietnamese Commie terrorists from Ho Chi Minh Trail via Laos and Campuchia's porous borders exponentially harder to control than the situation in South Korea. I always thank Vietnam vets for their services.
@chrisberrymanalo
@chrisberrymanalo Жыл бұрын
Recon
@kopparhast5921
@kopparhast5921 Жыл бұрын
The gliders Joe asks about at 7:00 were used to transport troops behind enemy lines to fight alongside the paratroopers that jumped in. It was a way to bring in troops without having to have that many more planes to transport them. The gliders were much easier and quicker to build. The C-47’s carried a load of paratroopers and (some of them) towed in gliders full of troops behind them, cut them loose and the glider pilot took over control and landed them. There were lots of casualties due to glider crashes, mishaps etc. but it was still a success.
@jacksteel6590
@jacksteel6590 Жыл бұрын
Storming the beach itself was much more difficult than planned "I think", because the weather was more fowl than expected, which made it much more difficult -- with the sighting equipment of the time -- for the Air Force bombers to target the coastal gun emplacements with reasonable accuracy. The early morning bombing runs were largely ineffective because of that and because the Germans even moved some of the massive guns around. After the Navy ships saw the Army and Marine personnel getting slaughtered, and after being instructed by higher authority to stay a safe distance from the shore's underwater mines and obstructions designed to snag or damage ships, some of the Navy ship captains could not stand it, so they defied orders, moved closer, and started shelling the cliffs over the heads of the soldiers on the beach.
@kicknadeadcat
@kicknadeadcat Жыл бұрын
My father-in-law was in Normandy. He was in the 7th wave. He told me that the first and second wave was destroyed, no one survived. By third wave a few made it to the beach. And little by little they made progress. Crazy……
@babyfarksmgeezaks1037
@babyfarksmgeezaks1037 Жыл бұрын
Crazy thing is is there was survivors from the 1st and 2nd wave 😳
@kicknadeadcat
@kicknadeadcat Жыл бұрын
@@babyfarksmgeezaks1037 Well I'm sure he didn't see them. All he saw was disaster.
@anonony9081
@anonony9081 2 жыл бұрын
WWII was the last war that people generally feel was justified
@JR-ju3kj
@JR-ju3kj Жыл бұрын
I agree.That's how I've always viewed WW II,as well.
@evanricheson1630
@evanricheson1630 Жыл бұрын
Agreeable now we go into countries for gold and oil and take other peoples rights live how they want all in the name of “freedom” even though The government wants to spread their Imperialistic ideals across the world
@tristonray7228
@tristonray7228 Жыл бұрын
Not Korea?
@jebbus8387
@jebbus8387 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why we don't view Korea the same way we view WWII
@Zombie-lp8bx
@Zombie-lp8bx Жыл бұрын
Korea was
@girlinabox1943
@girlinabox1943 2 жыл бұрын
My grandpa was in WW2 Navy on the Mona Island. My dad was drafted in the Army in Vietnam (MP K-9 Sentryman). Even the feel of the stories were so different. My dad suffered a lot after coming home.
@RejectedJedi
@RejectedJedi Жыл бұрын
My dad is an army vet from Vietnam.. He's recently been able to get into a vet's retirement home. Everyone is shocked he went to Vietnam. Sadly he's to old to visit Vietnam before he passes but I hope to go just to reconnect with the country. He comes from my grandfather who is one of the pilots who dropped the bombs on Japan. I definitely appreciate any military veterans in my daily life and try to help them when I can
@michaelferrando9405
@michaelferrando9405 Жыл бұрын
No way you’re a descendant of one of the first atomic bombers.
@sikaifu5509
@sikaifu5509 Жыл бұрын
Not sure how to separate a bad war from a good soldier. It's like saying a random mass murderer of children (like Columbine shooters) in a school is a good person, just happened to be fighting a bad war. Personal responsibility somehow doesn't apply to murders if the victims are poor enough.
@gottago1885
@gottago1885 10 ай бұрын
My grandpa was the other guy who dropped the bomb
@selenophile5256
@selenophile5256 9 ай бұрын
"my family is a lineage of war criminals and I hope they can see the the countries they bombed once again"
@zaynes5094
@zaynes5094 8 ай бұрын
@@gottago1885 I mean, that's not really anything to feel proud about. I watched a doc on the bombing, several actually, and they always finish with "I wish there was another way" or "I would strangle myself before having to drop a bomb again." The thing is, I love Japanese people, I love their culture, I like the people, I even like some of the food and storytelling. However, if you ever told someone who was Japanese, and who was a kid or teen during WWII, they wouldn't think very highly or kindly to us. Their were normal, kind, innocent people that were killed by our American people because of an order given by a government that gave up on any other way to end the war and, in the end, decided on a war that was only ended when that government's own people finally decided to overthrow the dictators their leaders had become.
@TheBency
@TheBency Жыл бұрын
As a kid, I got to know a guy who was a belly gunner in the Pacific during WWII. He always noted that he shot down plans with a Mitsubishi symbol on them and we now have cars in the US with that symbol. I wish I knew him when I'm older so I could appreciate his stories more but he passed away years ago.
@Luhbraindead
@Luhbraindead 2 жыл бұрын
My grandpa was part of a group of 200 US marine tunnel rats along with 700 combined arms. He was spit on he was called names when he returned & while Howard stern gloats of wearing body parts as a trophy my grandfather is rotting away in his room from PTSD & dementia he gathers all the kitchen knives and hides them under his bed sheets on his bed and sleeps In a chair. He was a POW for 1 year and is only 78. I hate what Vietnam took from my papa
@MP-tj5xv
@MP-tj5xv 2 жыл бұрын
I'd "like" your comment, but it does not feel appropriate. I am so sorry for your grief.
@MatchlessConcepts
@MatchlessConcepts 2 жыл бұрын
Thats fucked up what happened to your papa. lets also imagine what it did to the Vietnamese. Children are still being born with birth defects from all the bombs and poison we dropped.
@matthoward7645
@matthoward7645 2 жыл бұрын
Where was he based?
@Luhbraindead
@Luhbraindead 2 жыл бұрын
@@MP-tj5xv didn’t comment for you my g. Thanks tho
@Luhbraindead
@Luhbraindead 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthoward7645 Camp Pendleton Oceanside California
@thegreatowl4912
@thegreatowl4912 2 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather was a Cannoneer during the Second World War. He hit the Normandy beach 1.5 days after the first wave. He, and his brethren, fought from France to Belgium and finally Germany. He was at the Battle of the Bulge and was part of the liberation of Dachau. The stories he told will stay with me until I die. I cannot imagine how it would be to live through it in person. But, I'm so very proud of him and his Generation. God Bless each and every Veteran. Thank you for your service.
@DozerMoto
@DozerMoto Жыл бұрын
So this gentleman's answer to the question is " i don't know " . If you don't know without uncertainty who the enemy is , how can you fight him with vigor ? Things changed when uniforms were no longer worn by your combatant . They are nowhere , they are everywhere .
@histman3133
@histman3133 Жыл бұрын
I was in Singapore twice and I had visited some of the battlefield sites where the British troops had fought against the Japanese in 1941/42. I have yet to visit Europe but I can understand that powerful feeling of being there like that.
@tk4cash969
@tk4cash969 Жыл бұрын
I met a few Tuskegee airman when I was younger and it was an incredibly impactful moment in my youth. I still remember them years later and I have so much respect for the generation that took on hell and won.
@leetheflea4096
@leetheflea4096 Жыл бұрын
Hell on two fronts! And then they liberated concentration camps, I cannot fathom the horror of that
@leviswranglers2813
@leviswranglers2813 2 жыл бұрын
My teenage kid said this to me and it's something that sticks in my head and makes so much sense to me. "Intelligent animals in zoos look so sad and depressed, and I see that today in society. It's like we've all been tricked into building our own little zoos, our own little pen. I don't think we are built/designed to live like this."
@patriciabowler
@patriciabowler 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting observation from your kid.
@rayray7244
@rayray7244 2 жыл бұрын
Man that kid is way ahead of most adults!!
@rjwasser8312
@rjwasser8312 2 жыл бұрын
This’ll be unpopular in sure, but that reminds me of Foucault.
@truthsRsung
@truthsRsung 2 жыл бұрын
That is the very best trait that children possess, their ability to see through the B.S. that Adults spew. We break ourselves when we buy into the narrative, to fit in. People consider me broken because I refused to believe that my Dad's dog tags should list a religion. I am sure that anyone who picks up a gun to solve their problems isn't Religious.
@truthsRsung
@truthsRsung 2 жыл бұрын
​@@BasedAurelius ...We called the original Snow Birds, SAVAGES, then asked for their help writing the Constitution. Those who lived here before whitey maintained the land with a gentle touch, while we muscle our way thru Nature. Natives managed controlled burns in arid climates so they wouldn't get caught in wild fires. Today we build homes in those same areas and watch homeowners cry about fireworks or campfires ruining their life. Any botonist would have advised against a subdivision based solely on the plants growing there, like any frontiersman, or founding father. We have forgotten the basics. Food Water Shelter Love No reason to count past four.
@richardremick1639
@richardremick1639 Жыл бұрын
My dad was a marine in Vietnam and my grandfather was a world war 2 vet. The difference is my dad was in killer mode every second and my grandfather was more laid back.Both killers but my dad was a bit more aggressive. They weee both superhuman though. They could fight through anything it was wild
@jeffreystradling8711
@jeffreystradling8711 Жыл бұрын
Joe didn't do his research 6:52. They did bomb, shell, and drop paratroopers behind the lines. They largely missed their targets or fortifications were extremely strong.
@IstvanThree
@IstvanThree Жыл бұрын
Right? The same with the gliders, not so much Joe, but his guest seems to be the WW2 guy here. D-Day was planned insanely detailed, but the US soldiers were... how could you say without being rude - unlucky because the bombing and shelling was off and the bunkers were still very active. Wait, pretty sure you know this, sorry.
@AroundSun
@AroundSun 2 жыл бұрын
Both my grandfather's flew in ww2 and both were shot down. I'm glad I was alive to know them and respect for what they did. I have always been a ww2 buff. It's crazy to think that we were the last generations of people who can say we knew them. My children and their children will never know anyone who was in ww2, but almost everyone I grew up with, born in 1986 or earlier, had a grandfather they knew and was still alive who served in that war.
@conpop6924
@conpop6924 Жыл бұрын
as we get into the 2020s and the last ww2 vets start to go ive also begun to realize we are the last generation to have met them. i was born in 2004 and have met only about 3 or 4 ww2 vets including one of my grandfathers but have been alive at the same time as millions of ww2 vets. we are very lucky to have been able to meet them but not have to have fought in the war
@amandanorris8
@amandanorris8 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was too young to be in ww2 but his father (my great grandfather) was in WW1 and he served in the Meuse-Argonn offensive which was one of the last (if not the last) big offensive in WW1. That battle lasted 47 days. I also think it is the deadliest battle in American history. Over 340,000 casualties. I can’t remember if that was just Americans though… might be a total count in the 47 days. And my dad told me he asked the man what it was like being young and naive at the time. The 96 year old man burst into tears. My dad later found out his grandfathers best friend was in the trenches with him got shot and he had to watch his friend suffer, die…. Then rot on the battlefield for days.. used his corpse as shelter..….….I couldn’t even imagine. (he was very old when he had my grandfather)
@vlnexalt6063
@vlnexalt6063 Жыл бұрын
My great grandfather fought in Africa, Italy, Normandy, and then went on to the Pacific. The amount of respect and interest i have in these men and history is immense. God Bless America.
@scarecrowman7789
@scarecrowman7789 8 ай бұрын
My grandfather ( British) fought in North Africa against the Germans too. 👍🏻
@EDGEAMAKATEDIDDIOT
@EDGEAMAKATEDIDDIOT Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was in the marines and his time was up and then got home and joined the navy to go back and fight WW II , I was only 10 when he passed away but that man was one of a kind and fearless
@Intrepid70
@Intrepid70 2 жыл бұрын
I work in retail and I see a Vietnam vet almost everyday and I make sure to always shake their hand, thank them for their service and welcome them home because they didn’t get that when they came back.
@nielsen9458
@nielsen9458 2 жыл бұрын
Go Home G.I.
@Intrepid70
@Intrepid70 2 жыл бұрын
@@nielsen9458 Hanoi Hannah has joined I see
@Intrepid70
@Intrepid70 2 жыл бұрын
@@nielsen9458 too bad because of a lie in the gulf Tonkin and the draft many young G.I. couldn’t go home
@krausewitz6786
@krausewitz6786 2 жыл бұрын
Except the 'mistreatment of Vietnam vets' is a wildly overstated story, bordering on urban legend.
@Intrepid70
@Intrepid70 2 жыл бұрын
@@krausewitz6786 greatful dead fan would say something idiotic like that
@SoniasWay
@SoniasWay 2 жыл бұрын
He’s absolutely right, it’s all a big business, everything is about money now
@locochang6533
@locochang6533 2 жыл бұрын
You do a lot for money, right?
@tsquirrel8675
@tsquirrel8675 2 жыл бұрын
What would you do for a klondike bar?
@yoshzlac2429
@yoshzlac2429 2 жыл бұрын
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@yoshzlac2429
@yoshzlac2429 2 жыл бұрын
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@cv4809
@cv4809 2 жыл бұрын
Things were not about money before now?
@adriancarmona7416
@adriancarmona7416 Жыл бұрын
I used to work with a Vietnam vet who was drafted into the war and he said that when he came back after serving he applied for a job as a butcher and they told him that they could not hire him because he was a vet from Vietnam He said he didn't get a heroes welcome like the men did after WW2
@LA-ue2ph
@LA-ue2ph Жыл бұрын
because WW2 was fought against Nazism and the Vietnam war was an invasion and massacre of innocent people, if I was drafted I would refuse to fight and suffer the consequences, just like Muhammad Ali, he was the real hero not the soldiers who blindly pledge allegiance to a racist and morally corrupt nation.
@fiveish77
@fiveish77 Жыл бұрын
My grandad John Riley Walker was at Omaha Beach on D-Day. Wounded by gunshot to the arm in Carentan. He would receive two purple hearts after the war. He also visited Normandy again in the early 2010s. I wish I could talk to him being 29 now. I interviewed him for a high school project and I think he told me things he never told anybody else. The only thing he said about Saving Private Ryan was that his company didn't have bags to keep their guns dry. That was all he ever said about that day besides that he was there.
@pdc4930
@pdc4930 2 жыл бұрын
What the guy says as to why respect for the military is lessened, it's becuase WWII is now further and further away and also Korea, Vietnam, War on Terrorism had/has such dubious motives and unclear goals which makes people question why are they there in the first place.
@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname
@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname 2 жыл бұрын
And because we all have so much access to information, and we have grown up safe in the knowledge we can say a big fat "Fuck YOU" to anyone or anything we don't agree with. Back in the 30s and 40s, you did what you were told, said "Yes sir" and didn't question the official narrative. I like being free, like being able to tell anyone I like to fuck off, and won't be bullshitted into risking my life for anyone, let alone in a foreign land - it's inevitable that comes across as disrespect.
@contrarygirl
@contrarygirl 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy someone is doing this, just to bad this is only happening now most of the WW2 vets are gone
@mojopin2000
@mojopin2000 Жыл бұрын
"The Longest Day" is a legendary CLASSIC. Must watch, no excuses.
@spookyboi8446
@spookyboi8446 Жыл бұрын
Normandy actually went incredibly well. The paratrooper deployment and artillery bombardment could have been much more effective and well timed out. That would have limited the death toll much more. But many of the invading forces faced much less resistance than the main attack on Ohmaha that people remember. The plan was really well designed and executed considering the size and logistics involved with the largest amphibious assault in history.
@MrNinjaone1
@MrNinjaone1 Жыл бұрын
it would actually have been cool if it was real, the americans played as a dishonest fake actor and they engaged with the germans only after they were broken, only to virtue signal and save elite ranked citizen and army officers of the third reich from the russians who wanted justice done "saving general goebbels and his elite friends" was the real mission, "saving private ryan" is the lie that was made into a movie to whitewash it
@scarecrowman7789
@scarecrowman7789 8 ай бұрын
My grandad stormed the breach and served at gold beach in Normandy with the British army. A great victory for us allies 🇬🇧
@lollapop7673
@lollapop7673 2 жыл бұрын
Your thumbnail photo was a photo I chose as one of the best historic photos for my photography assignment! Very symbolic 👍
@Kthb80
@Kthb80 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t that lady come out and say she didn’t want to be kissed by him, didn’t the me too movement try to cancel this photo?
@lollapop7673
@lollapop7673 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kthb80 yes I think you’re right about her approaching him for a kiss! Not sure about the cancelling bit though!! Thanks for reminding me of the origins of this great photo!! 👍
@urygen
@urygen 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was in the marines in the Vietnam war and was very open about telling his stories. Among the hell they went through there and here after I just cannot imagine. That is why it is absolutely crucial to thank a Vietnam veteran for their service. They never got that thank you.
@JoSeeFuss
@JoSeeFuss 2 жыл бұрын
My father, (i'm the 5th kid) luckily got to see me before he left for his 3rd time to Vietnam. Went through a lot and hasn't said much, but now at 85 he's finally relaxed enough to actually laugh now.
@nonono9194
@nonono9194 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for invading a foreign country and killing Vietcong I guess?
@urygen
@urygen 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chester_Oliver my grandfather is still getting his agent orange check monthly. I have to say the side effects of that are nasty- I have multiple cousins/ aunts/uncles that have emotional issues, even one with autism and there is no history of that in the family. Definitely messed with our “gene pool” a bit.
@kenokurose
@kenokurose 2 жыл бұрын
Thank for what? For bombing poor people to fight against the ghost of communism? United States is a JOKE.
@BatCaveOz
@BatCaveOz Жыл бұрын
The use of gliders was to reduce cost... alleviating shortages in materials... and improving efficiency (ie more boots on ground using fewer resources) One powered plane could tow and launch many gliders (one at a time... not all at once) and return to base to do the same thing the next day or the next week.
@isaiah3950
@isaiah3950 Жыл бұрын
My great grandpa and great grandma lived in Pearl Harbor when the attack happened because my great grandpa was stationed there. My great grandma was walking over to a friends house with a dish in hand because they were having a cookout breakfast, and a Japanese pilot came right at her. And she just froze. She said that her and the pilot made eye contact and he nodded and pulled up and flew over her. This was a year before they had my grandma. Which is crazy because he easily could have just fired and I wouldn’t even be here today. My mom has the pan on a shelf at her house. soldiers do indeed have some humanity.
@yahhyeet442
@yahhyeet442 Жыл бұрын
Cap
@-AyeYallThereGoLaFlare-
@-AyeYallThereGoLaFlare- Жыл бұрын
If this is true , that’s dope , but I feel like granny prolly had a couple lil pillies and a martini before this story was recounted
@noahgomez5212
@noahgomez5212 Жыл бұрын
Did he stop by after his runs for some breakfast also?
@youtubesucks9.11
@youtubesucks9.11 Жыл бұрын
That’s cap they went to China to sexually assaulted women and children but this pilot froze time for your granny to look at him and nod bro he would of torn her apart why she a imperial Japanese sympathizer when she saw what they did at Pearl Harbor
@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr
@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr Жыл бұрын
What movie is this from? I seen this ending before
@alanphelan9108
@alanphelan9108 Жыл бұрын
To see what is happening in America today is an absolute slap in the face to all who have fought and died for the country.
@JaronPope
@JaronPope Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. Democrats have totally disrespected everything this great country stands for.
@_VISION.
@_VISION. Жыл бұрын
Man shutup
@DMM1840
@DMM1840 Жыл бұрын
What’s happening today?
@andrewheitmeyer9945
@andrewheitmeyer9945 Жыл бұрын
@@DMM1840 victimhood, woke, and lgbtq culture over patriotism
@alanphelan9108
@alanphelan9108 Жыл бұрын
@@DMM1840 nothing at all. Pull back up your mask and go asleep.
@dustinh4175
@dustinh4175 Жыл бұрын
The germam v2 vengeance weapon had gyroscopes, it was the first precision guided rocket. The v1 was a pulse jet bomb lanched in mass
@nba1942
@nba1942 Жыл бұрын
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@harleybfilms
@harleybfilms Жыл бұрын
thinking on war and soldiers always helps me push through my pain and struggle
@noahberch8468
@noahberch8468 Жыл бұрын
As a kid who has been to both of those places, I agree it gives u a good prospective and deeper connection with that generation and patriotism as a whole
@dontclickonmychannel400
@dontclickonmychannel400 2 жыл бұрын
The difference is that I don't have WW2 flashbacks
@osmosisjones4912
@osmosisjones4912 2 жыл бұрын
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@krishm16
@krishm16 2 жыл бұрын
Also recommend checking out some of the WW1 memorials. Incredible, jaw dropping experience. The crosses that lie row on row will humble you more than anything.
@luke7456
@luke7456 Жыл бұрын
The gliders had extra supplies weapons and ammunition on board. You could stuff a few more troops in the back of them as well. They were also pulled behind the c47s that most of the the parachute infantry were on. So in theory you have x2 the amount of troops. There was a bomber sortie that went out before the landings. But their bombs didn’t do as much damage to the German fortifications as the planners thought was going to happen.
@leetheflea4096
@leetheflea4096 Жыл бұрын
Massive naval bombardment too
@midnight2125
@midnight2125 2 жыл бұрын
At D-Day the artillery to soften up the defense missed by a mile in land. That's why so many people died that day.
@yeahman147
@yeahman147 2 жыл бұрын
Yer, thhats the reason. Not because thhey were just cannon fodder
@divinegon4671
@divinegon4671 2 жыл бұрын
@@yeahman147 you’re both right
@greennimbus2519
@greennimbus2519 2 жыл бұрын
What's sad about D- Day was that was probably the BEST option. Regardless of How many were LOST. Thats what blows my mind. Knowing that was the BEST option to WIN. Fucking Wild.
@D-A-A-
@D-A-A- 2 жыл бұрын
@@greennimbus2519 when rogan said why didn't they soften them up with planes at first and my brain hurt
@johnhenry4844
@johnhenry4844 2 жыл бұрын
@@yeahman147 That’s misleading, Normandy was relatively lightly defended compared to the axis defences at Calais, where the enemy thought the allies would land Fact is anything compared to how the Soviets treated their soldiers is admirable
@Speedo2550
@Speedo2550 2 жыл бұрын
My mom married my step dad when I was 7 years old. He was a Huey door gunner in Vietnam. They didn’t call it PTSD back then and the VA treated it with large amounts of drugs to just make zombies out of a lot of guys. There were times he was the nicest gentlest human being I ever knew and there were times I thought he was going to kill my Mom and I. 40 years later I get it.
@JoSeeFuss
@JoSeeFuss 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is how to get decent normal people to become soldiers, ready to kill or be killed. Then bring them back and expect them to just shut off the recent past. I've seen NO country really try to do the right thing with their vets. The VA got better funding under Trump, that's about it. Since covid, the VA hospitals have lost so many doctors, nurses and others. Care for vets is a joke.
@dasteezyust4717
@dasteezyust4717 2 жыл бұрын
My Uncle was a Sargent in the Army 2 tours in Vietnam....he was on Methadone for yrs for PSTD and ended up commiting suicide 8yrs ago unexpectedly. I blame it on the war
@astraltempestvt
@astraltempestvt Жыл бұрын
My grandmother had a boyfriend at the time who died in battle as a paratrooper. She hardly ever talked about it, but my mom told me the story and also what my grandfather did during the war, such as fighting in Germany. Both my grandfathers fought in WWII, and some of the documents and letters we found after their passing are incredible to read. Seeing some of the German soldier memorabilia they brought back to America with them still haunt me to this day.
@mukuzChannel
@mukuzChannel Жыл бұрын
A lot of veterans don't look back at their fondly, because they remember the horrors to not only experienced, but the horrors they inflicted.
@StubbsMillingCo.
@StubbsMillingCo. 2 жыл бұрын
WW2 made the US and really anyone on that side EXTREMELY RICH and boomed our economy and tech. Our government (life long politicians) realized that. They forced the next wars, Korea, ‘Nam, Iraq, Afghan, Africa, the Middle East again…. Think about it. WW2 brought us out of the Depression and things were glorious after. Up until the 50s. We had all this military built up, thanks WW2, nothing to do with it. We seen the Russians were moving around in that region and we forced the hand. Jumped into war, the vets from WW2 thought it was their chance again along with a DRAFT. Our leaders thought that it was going to be a great turn out for $ and power flexing. It was not. Vietnam was supposed to clean up the thoughts very few had about the Korean War. Instead those people and the soldiers realized that it was a lie and were thrown into the fire because your government told you too. Every war after WW2 was for profit. Not a battle between good and evil. Those battles are long gone. It is all for profit now. That’s the DIFFERENCE between WW2 and Vietnam. The only difference that matters.
@Zarozian
@Zarozian 2 жыл бұрын
Ah the war economy and war as a business. Even now we are trying to provoke China to fire the first shot at us.
@brianjones8899
@brianjones8899 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. America's real religion isn't Christianity. It's money
@lovel7838
@lovel7838 2 жыл бұрын
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@lovel7838 2 жыл бұрын
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@blobgooll9395
@blobgooll9395 2 жыл бұрын
With the exception of Afghanistan. That war was necessary.
@yourneighbor6957
@yourneighbor6957 2 жыл бұрын
My uncles, great uncle fought on Omaha, my uncle one day sat him down and showed him SPR the Dday scene, It was to much for him they had to turn it off. Pid Kennedy, was his name he fought threw the whole war and even killed a high ranking german officer took his gun a double barrel shotgun with ivy, swastikas all that on it (awesome gun to see in person) sent it home to his cousin stationed at fort brag in different pieces so he didn't get caught . It's one of the coolest things I've ever seen or touched. Ww2 vets and what they did can't ever be forgotten.
@aceeduventures
@aceeduventures 2 жыл бұрын
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@MSRLR
@MSRLR Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that ww2 is so romantized ive heard vets say that patrolling the streets of baghdad was equal to storming normandy. Not even the same ball park
@philcarus401
@philcarus401 Жыл бұрын
He’s so right! We need to understand and appreciate what was done for us so much more, god bless those men that have everything for us
@SparkBerry
@SparkBerry 2 жыл бұрын
In WW2, they were fighting for good... In Vietnam, they were fighting for politicians.
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen 2 жыл бұрын
You could say the first part about Vietnam and the second part about WW2 as well. Fighting against communism is a good thing. The problem is that the civilian government wouldn't let our military do its damn job.
@BlazemanGuitarX
@BlazemanGuitarX 2 жыл бұрын
More specifically, WW2 saw massive devastation. People thought Russia and Germany might align and roll over the rest of the earth, then Germany attacked Russia. Who would the winner come after next? With Korea, people were still riding high off winning WW2. In Vietnam, the luster was gone and people were upset we were fighting ideological wars in countries that only in the last 30 years have had an impact on global trade, against a bloc that would collapse under its own weight.
@DeathbatOfSpades
@DeathbatOfSpades 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyfriederichsen fighting against communism on the other side of the world is not a good thing. condemning men, women, and children to die in a country most Americans didn’t even know about at the time was not the answer. Americans preach about freedom until another country does something we don’t like.
@andyfriederichsen
@andyfriederichsen 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeathbatOfSpades Doesn't mean we should have stopped supplying the ARVN.
@fockewulf190d
@fockewulf190d 2 жыл бұрын
At D-Day, there was a massive bombing raid that was supposed to soften up the landing beaches, but the bombers missed their target area and ended up dropping the bombs further inland. Therefore there were no craters for cover, no elimination of mines and obstacles, and no initial degradation of German forces at the beaches. That’s why the casualties were so high. It was a very costly clusterf*ck
@juansuarez8903
@juansuarez8903 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for taking the time to write this that's really interesting I always wondered why d day went how it went, all I know was we lost about 4000 troops on that Beach if I remember right
@ryanhamstra49
@ryanhamstra49 2 жыл бұрын
What made it a success was that we were able to convince them we were attacking somewhere else so the Germans didn’t send supplies to that area and eventually just ran out of ammo. If they had been properly supplied it probably would have failed
@Shatamx
@Shatamx 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhamstra49 Correct. Germans did not have the supplies to keep up landing after landing. If they did D-Day would of been an all time military disaster.
@FuckGoogle2
@FuckGoogle2 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhamstra49 Sure but the D-Day landing failing would've only prolonged the war so long, the western forces was already moving up through Italy and the soviets were closing in on that front, it was merely opening a third front.
@juansuarez8903
@juansuarez8903 2 жыл бұрын
@@xxxx-gu7bj tell me you've never seen saying private Ryan without telling me you've never seen saving private ryan
@topbins1391
@topbins1391 Жыл бұрын
The bravery and willingness that those soldiers had to keep advancing while watching their good friends dying horrifically right beside is TRULY remarkable and unbelievable. In my opinion, the heroes that died so that the men behind them (who lived) could take over Normandy and return home to their wives and families are the true heroes. Our society today would immediately fold at the sight of Normandy that day. Our society today would not win that war. We are too fragile and too easily offended. The men at that time were strong and had thick skin
@ZetsuboNoShima
@ZetsuboNoShima Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind most of these “men” were actually 17-21
@yomama7832
@yomama7832 Жыл бұрын
@@ZetsuboNoShima imagine 17-21 year olds now lol
@ZetsuboNoShima
@ZetsuboNoShima Жыл бұрын
@@yomama7832 I’m 19 and I know a couple friends in the service right now, I’d say they’re pretty tough kids all from rougher backgrounds than I am. The types of limp wristed pussies which are the most vocal part of our generation wouldn’t even join the military, you’re still getting tough kids who join. Not as tough as the kids from the 40s or 60s but it’s something. We fight smarter not harder now
@willcui4887
@willcui4887 Жыл бұрын
@@ZetsuboNoShima i don't mean to be stereotypical, but how many of your friends in the service are from the city?
@ZetsuboNoShima
@ZetsuboNoShima Жыл бұрын
@@willcui4887 none, I come from a rural town where we all have been doing hard work since childhood. I do tree work myself and I’m 19, but some of my other buddies are in the service, 3 to be exact only one is an infantryman in the marines though. I don’t talk to them as much anymore since they’ve left but I know they’re some tough fuckers I’d never wanna fight
@spikeybug1
@spikeybug1 Жыл бұрын
My Uncle Roy Gleason played for the La Dodgers, then got drafted into Vietnam in '67. Lost his Championship Ring over there, and they awarded him another one in 2003.
@soyburglar1878
@soyburglar1878 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was pretty common knowledge how the US and allied forces failed logistically at Normandy by dropping the munitions meant for the enemy entirely too far from the intended lines for them to be at all effective.
@joshnic6639
@joshnic6639 2 жыл бұрын
But do you know why? The reason was due to bad weather…. or worse fog than they were expecting. Apparently 5 o’clock in the morning or 6 o’clock, whenever it was, visibility was horrible.
@KingKong11730
@KingKong11730 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshnic6639 Yup. Imagine dropping munitions and bombs, etc. without any aid of gps or coordinates. They were literally flying blind in planes in major fog while calculating based on altitude and speed with a paper map, where their drops would land. Pretty crazy when you think about fighting a war with 1940s tech.
@kylejones8891
@kylejones8891 Жыл бұрын
Mainly just the US
@raynwolfsbane2084
@raynwolfsbane2084 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather served in the Canadian Navy during WW2. He was a Morse code operator so to my knowledge he never killed anyone himself, but I could always sense the guilt he felt. He told me once that he wasn't proud of anything he did in the war. As much as dehumanization helps you do what war asks of you, my grandfather never forgot that the men on the other side had families too. He may not have liked talking about his service, but he did help me understand the importance of remembering what happened in the war so we can prevent another one from happening. He didn't see anything glorious about what he did. He understood war for the ugly thing that it is. I think when he started losing his memory to Alzheimer's he mentioned that he hoped it would take his memories of the war away. A part of me hopes it did.
@timothymchugh6232
@timothymchugh6232 Жыл бұрын
The softening up missed the target. The Naval bombardment often went over the beach fortifications, and they definitely needed more air support
@rhunter762i
@rhunter762i 7 ай бұрын
Dad was a Pacific WWII veteran. He was 19 in 1944, and survived 3 Island landings. In 1981, when I enlisted, all he said to me was, "I've played that song, and you're not going to dig it; trust me." Did I listen? Of COURSE not; 18yo-s never do. I got out with an RE1-A discharge code, after 4 years to the day. It wasn't until Pop was 75, in the hospital, looking at open-heart surgery, that he ever spoke of his time in the Pacific; and then he couldn't stop. All the things I didn't understand growing up, now made perfect sense to me. We can't even imagine what they lived through, and carried the rest of their days. Having said that, the biggest difference between WWII and Vietnam, is that in WWII we were committed to winning, and in Vietnam, we were not. Certainly, the ground forces fought to survive and prevail, but those at the top echelons, who MADE the big decisions, from either DC, Langley, or downtown Saigon, were NOT committed to win; and since NOBODY wanted to lose, EITHER, it was a "push-me-pull-you", status-quo, goat-f**k. Had we fought WWII the same way we fought Vietnam, we'd have LOST; without debate. If you doubt me, consider the following. The "flags" [generals/stars] were all "field-grades" in Korea, and "Co-grades" in WWII. They KNEW what worked, and what didn't, and had fought in jungle environments, and against "asian cultures and mindsets" before [Japs, Norks, and ChiComs]; there was a DMZ [38th-17th Parallels], and there were North and South [Korea/Vietnam]. What most don't realize, is that Vietnam, like Korea, was a UN-war; our commitment there was based on the SEATO treaty [patterned after NATO]; which is why the Aussies were there. The SEATO treaty got its authority from the UN Charter. Therefore, it was a UN-sanctioned/controlled conflict; with much of the same kind of problems that Korea had. As Korea wound down, the foundation for Vietnam was being laid; and the sides were being lined up, by the CIA, and State Dept. Vietnam was manipulated into a CIVIL War, and because the French had to be placated to remain in NATO, we "had" to help THEM, maintain control of "THEIR" Colonies in Indo-China. When JFK realized that Vietnam was going to be a CIA-managed goatscrew, just like the Bay of Pigs in Cuba, he was intent on withdrawing from Vietnam, and dismembering the CIA; go find NSAM 263, and READ it. JFK even made a presentation at the National Press Club [July/Aug63...+/-?] where he stated that, "...by this time next year, there will be no more personnel in SoVnm...". To his eternal credit, the ONLY time that video clip has ever been seen on film, is in Oliver Stone's "JFK". The Gulf of Ton-Kin was RIGGED; the RESOLUTION was written BEFORE the incident happened! Ask yourself this: How was it we could prevail on a TWO-FRONT World War, with LESSER TECHNOLOGY, and apparently were UNABLE to prevail, against a SINGLE, divided, COASTAL country [and/or Laos and Cambodia], having transitioned from B-17s/24s/25s/26s/29s, to B-52s; from P-47s/51s/Corsairs, to F-4s/A-6s/105s, and from gravity rockets to sophisticated guided missiles, LAAWs rockets, and helicopter gunships; and YET, we couldn't win?? WHY?!! Because the objective was NOT to "KILL the goose that lays the golden eggs (win OR lose); rather, the objective was to FEED the goose, so it laid MORE eggs, and to keep it going for as long as possible; just like Iraq and Afghanistan. How long did THAT last...15+ years? If you want to see what happens when the Pentagon is SERIOUS about winning, look at Desert Storm! So, WHAT HAPPENED 10+ years LATER??? Did they just forget everything they learned in Desert Storm?? Hardly...! Don't take MY word for it; go find a small book written by Smedley D. Butler [MGen, USMCR (ret)], a 2X MoH recipient, entitled "War is a Racket"; he wrote it in the mid-1930s, AFTER Hitler became Chancellor, and BEFORE the war in Europe started [01Sep39]. Given Butler's book, Eisenhower's Farwell Address, the Pentagon Papers, and the advantage of historical hindsight, it should be plainly, blatantly, and painfully obvious.... No wonder DoD can't meet its recruiting/retention goals; go figure, huh?
@Bharlos
@Bharlos 2 жыл бұрын
WWII felt like we were actually defending ourselves, and our allies from an evil enemy. While the Viet Cong were no saints, fighting "the spread of communism" by ruthlessly killing them, along with their women and children just felt completely different. Despite this, like others here have said, our veteran deserved better, it's pretty depressing to see so many veterans drugged out and homeless.
@bonda_racing3579
@bonda_racing3579 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the worse part about it. The viet cong were fighting the French way before the u.s got involved. The U.S could of had an allied if they backed Vietnams independence from France. Instead of inheriting their problem.
@Halo4Lyf
@Halo4Lyf Жыл бұрын
Do you think we didn't do the same to Germany and Japan?
@workingshlub8861
@workingshlub8861 Жыл бұрын
@@bonda_racing3579 in 1945 ho chi minh wanted US support for an independent vietnam.....if china had not gone communist korea and vietnam might not have happened because the US opposed french colonialism
@johnsuttonDBA_Dissertation
@johnsuttonDBA_Dissertation Жыл бұрын
Why cant they own property in the United States?
@GIJake-oo9ir
@GIJake-oo9ir 2 жыл бұрын
I served in Iraq at age 18. Made me grow up fast but also respect those who faught and died before me wearing the uniform. I wasn't for the war but I sure was for my country.
@thunderworks1107
@thunderworks1107 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your service and bravery man! What was the scariest thing?
@kellypitts8481
@kellypitts8481 2 жыл бұрын
So. Do you think you were fighting for our freedoms or for our leaders greed
@jorgebush7519
@jorgebush7519 2 жыл бұрын
@@thunderworks1107 Hahaha you americans
@thunderworks1107
@thunderworks1107 2 жыл бұрын
@@jorgebush7519 true, hope Iraq finds peace one day
@yeahman147
@yeahman147 2 жыл бұрын
Patriotism isn't good
@bestrealredhed
@bestrealredhed Жыл бұрын
We lost Vietnam, that's the difference. As an army veteran from the sweet spot era between Grenada and Desert Storm I can say that my experience was good, but I got out just in time. War is hell and I'm glad I didn't have to go through it.
@brvzi9093
@brvzi9093 Жыл бұрын
The greatest stories have come from men I’ve met who have served. Guys who continue to get up and go to work well into their 70s and 80s. These are men I look up too and absorb every bit of information they want to bless me with. They know what it truly means to live!
@stanleyjordan4993
@stanleyjordan4993 2 жыл бұрын
An older friend of mine served two combat tours in the Vietnam War in the Marine Corps. He told me he was doing his patriotic duty by serving and having faith about why we were fighting. He says if he knew then what he knows now about why our country was fighting that war, he would not have enlisted.
@mjt7231
@mjt7231 2 жыл бұрын
There was leaders who attempted to warn America on a grand scale of the mechanisms that were taking place. Smedley Butler and Dwight Eisenhower namely at the top of that list.
@QuietCornerWoodsman
@QuietCornerWoodsman 10 ай бұрын
Gliders could land troops and ancillaries in greater concentrations precisely at the target landing area and once released at some distance from the actual target, was effectively silent and difficult for the enemy to identify.
@divinenation22
@divinenation22 Жыл бұрын
Ultimate respect and love for that generation of ordinary but amazing men and women who put it all on the line for future generations. My Grandfather and my uncles all served and saw action with the British army in WW2. As a kid I was so fortunate to have them around.
@tavish4699
@tavish4699 Жыл бұрын
what this man does for his daughter is the best a father can do he shows what the generations before have done wrong and how they fixed it
@wolfie8366
@wolfie8366 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather served in the 8th Air Core in WW2. He enlisted right after Pearl Harbor and the shit that man went through, the men he lost during the bobmings of Dresden and the Invasion of the Rhineland gave him some serious PTSD that scared him for decades. The Governorment wanted him to serve in Korea and he politly told them to fuck themselves, he had lost so many frineds from the war that he couldn't fathom making more just to watch them die. He would never even talk to my dad about the war until after my father got back from his tours in the Middle East. I never got to meet my grandpa because he died before I could remember him but he was a strong man who fought for everything he had and I respect him for his sacrifice. Men like him are the reason that we call it the Greatest Generation. It was them who sacrificed everything so that we could live in a brighter future than they had been born into.
@frankmfeb13
@frankmfeb13 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was born in germany and was there during ww2 as a kid. Him and his parents moved to america, not sure if it was during the war or after but he told me he remembers seeing the bombs dropping when germany was getting hit. He joined the military in america and was going to fight in vietnam but was injured in basic training i believe. I think he said he got hit with shrapnel.
@topwater8283
@topwater8283 Жыл бұрын
If anyone has not seen The Pacific, and Band of Brothers. Higggghly highly recommend watching both of them. Most incredible depiction of what our troops went through during ww2.
@dhedge9418
@dhedge9418 2 жыл бұрын
He is missing so much with what went into D-Day, every one of Hitler's intelligence officers was turned. They was in his ear and had him prepared to take on a mass invasion at a completely different spot on the direct opposite side of the island. We had created an entire force that was just inflatable tanks and stuff like that. We also flooded the sky with parachute jumpers that was just dummies, we had different kinds of technology built, like all these weird tanks that could drive up on to the blockaid areas and turn into a bridge and tanks that had these huge slapping chains to blow up the mines etc. I mean he is just missing so so much this was one of the most tactical extravaganza events in military history.
@IIIAJHIII
@IIIAJHIII 2 жыл бұрын
Island? The island of Europe LOL They mass of german troops were fighting the russians in the east thats why it was viable to bank on d-day.
@edsnotgod
@edsnotgod 2 жыл бұрын
@@IIIAJHIII Europe was an island until the imperialist US built Ukraine as a land bridge to Moscow
@IIIAJHIII
@IIIAJHIII 2 жыл бұрын
@@edsnotgod What on earth are you talking about.
@jondoe8271
@jondoe8271 2 жыл бұрын
the reason why d day was possible was because the germans were fighting.....the Russians, and had most of their armies walking towards Russia, not because of some trickery, they were stretched thin
@Coldfront15
@Coldfront15 2 жыл бұрын
@@jondoe8271 They were stretched thin, but they lacked two critical things too: resources and time. They were dramatically below their demographic replacement rate, and had only *5%* of the resources the Allies and Comintern held.
@MichaelLivingston-me
@MichaelLivingston-me 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it has more to do with the type of threat. WWII could be viewed as an existential threat to the free world. It was the allies against the despotic dictators. This analysis glosses over the details in order to explain the differences. It was between a conflict in a country where what was at stake was their experience and choices, vs ours as well as other nations around the globe. South Korea had a good outcome, while North Korea continues under the dictates of a despot. I haven't been back to Vietnam, but from what appears to be shown to us, is a unified nation living with peace, and enjoying some prosperity. Rationing, bond drives, and a vast call up of people to serve in the armed forces, was prevalent during WWII. During Vietnam, much of the youth was involved in creating a counter culture, a rebellion against authority. I was an anomaly because I volunteered during an unpopular trend against serving in the military. Draft dodging became the thing to do. I've written quite a bit about my own experiences (1971-75 USMC) which doesn't necessarily make me qualified but knowing many WWII vets, I could compare their experience to ours.
@malinoisnation9392
@malinoisnation9392 2 жыл бұрын
We know how much we are lied to today. To just believe that history is almost laughable.
@YEEYEE-dy8tk
@YEEYEE-dy8tk 2 жыл бұрын
The Allies teamed up with despotic dictators remember that part?
@SuicideVan
@SuicideVan 2 жыл бұрын
It's a common misconception given the pop-history optics of the situation, but the majority of forces in WW2 were draftees and the vast majority to serve in Vietnam were volunteers. The difference between WW2 and Vietnam and every war since is a clearly defined condition of victory. Hitler dead or imprisoned, unconditional surrender of their armed forces. When I was in Iraq it was find and destroy WMD's, then it was kill or capture Sadam, then it was I dunno, drive around until you get bombed or shot at then shoot back.
@osmosisjones4912
@osmosisjones4912 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLipp618rdDZpI0.html is finally here
@adamhaney9447
@adamhaney9447 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service. I was a Submariner, my son is a Marine. I have a huge respect for the Corps.
@TheRealSo_G
@TheRealSo_G Жыл бұрын
1:02 hits home
@cbstevp
@cbstevp Жыл бұрын
I walked on Omaha beach in the summer of 1997 and it is scary. It is wide, and flat, and it is surrounded by hills. No cover anywhere. At one end is a concrete bunker with gun ports that is sited to fire to length of the beach, not out to sea. So any troops crossing the beach would be exposed to its fire. In the hills there are still many concrete emplacements for machine guns and mortars all sited for the beach. Yes, it was hell.
@flush_entity
@flush_entity 2 жыл бұрын
While i am grateful for my family have migrated over to the U.S. I still have mixed feelings hearing about the war. The veterans who served and came back were just never the same.
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