The Different Levels of Fantasy

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Aidan Pocock

Aidan Pocock

Күн бұрын

Fantasy is an incredibly diverse genre, but what exactly counts as fantasy content? And are certain properties more fantasy than others? In this video I'll offer a brief explanation on the division between the specific extremities of fantasy.
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@AxelQC
@AxelQC 6 ай бұрын
GoT is heavily rooted in European history. Martin draws a lot of the stories from real life events. The Red Wedding is Glencoe. The names of characters are just slight variations of English names like Robb, Caitlyn, Dany, Arya, Jon, etc. That's why it feels like Middle Fantasy, because there are so many touches of real world events and people in them even if they are barely disguised.
@gabriellynch2764
@gabriellynch2764 6 ай бұрын
The War of the Roses is basically just GoT without dragons and snow zombies. The intrigue is insane! And it's real.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
The war of the roses is crazy, and I agree, I think that inspiration is what leads to GoT feeling so grounded. It's a very human conflict.@@gabriellynch2764
@jamesalexander958
@jamesalexander958 6 ай бұрын
@@aidanpocock Being inspired heavily by the Wars of the Roses has nothing to do with it. It's down to the fact that it's a drama and not an adventure. I think it's high fantasy despite our preconceived ideas
@Catherine.Dorian.
@Catherine.Dorian. 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesalexander958I think the world is high fantasy because of the depth of the story. Similar to Tolkien, Martin was able to build up a rich myth and lord of his world which makes it high fantasy to me.
@jamesalexander958
@jamesalexander958 6 ай бұрын
@@Catherine.Dorian. agreed
@melkisel4936
@melkisel4936 6 ай бұрын
World of Warcraft is also a masterful example of High Fantasy with great lore and great universe-building.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
World of Warcraft is sick
@douglasphillips5870
@douglasphillips5870 6 ай бұрын
This is an interesting perspective. What is called low fantasy here, is often referred to as urban fantasy, which is fantasy elements in a modern setting. Although low fantasy is often simply only a few fantastic elements in general. A sword and sorcery story with barbarians fighting monstrous beasts is also often called low fantasy, because there may be some magic in the background, and it takes place on a different world, but the thrust of the story is at a human level.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
That is very interesting. Like I mentioned I think there are lots of different ways people categorize fantasy, and I’m still surprised id never heard of urban fantasy before.
@fizzylime14
@fizzylime14 6 ай бұрын
@@aidanpocockif you‘re keen on checking out urban fantasy, I can highly recommend the Rivers of London series, it‘s a great series with a very interesting magic system
@GreenFalcon926
@GreenFalcon926 6 ай бұрын
I agree with what you said with ASOIAF. I wouldn't class that as high fantasy either. There is a reason why it's so popular. The world feels real and grounded, the magic isn't over the top, the characters are realistic and are always at risk of dying. The world of Game of Thrones is one of the best out there, alongside Middle-Earth. When people bash fantasy, it usually just tells you they lack any kind of imagination. Fantasy is amazing, and is so much more diverse than the same bland thing we see in every day life.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
I completely agree, I wish there wasn't such a stigma around fantasy content. It does seem like it's gotten slightly more mainstream in recent years, but it's still one of the lesser appreciated genres.
@everit6682
@everit6682 6 ай бұрын
I think that while tv series is exactly what you say the books have so much more to them if you really delve deep into them. Mystery of azor ahai mellisandre doing weird shit and other characters like patches or qouthe have much more then meets the eye. Ofc it is grounded and very similar to our world yet so diffrent i think that when its finished it will deserve place in high fantasy
@thefran901
@thefran901 6 ай бұрын
I would still classify it as high fantasy. For me, the level of "grounded" doesn't matter, what matters is that it is an entirely new fantastic world different from ours. If it was for the "grounded" feeling, then the Harry Potter series should be classified as high fantasy because it has more over the top magic than ASOIAF, yet, I would still place Harry Potter as low fantasy because it still happens in England.
@aleximalmgren5301
@aleximalmgren5301 6 ай бұрын
ITs Like G.R.R.M didn;t want magic but felt like he needed to have it .
@Human-zx4rb
@Human-zx4rb 6 ай бұрын
@@aleximalmgren5301Nah. Grrm has a bunch of magic. Asoiaf is inherently magical.
@technikchaot
@technikchaot 5 ай бұрын
6:06 the thing with the elves is in German there is a difference between "Elfen" and "Elben" both are in most cases translated to "elves" in English. I know Tolkien wrote his books in English, but he had many parts of Germanic/Nordic tales in mind while doing so. For the German translation he insisted to use "Elben" and not "Elfen". And Elben are in old German or Nordic tales far more humanlike in appearence and Elfen are still more like the small creatures. So in German he never redefined what the word Elb in a Fantasy book means. But of course because it was redefined in English often lower quality translations of newer fantasy books from English to German use Elfen where in my opinion Elben would be far more appropriate. EDIT: some spelling mistakes
@sgiath
@sgiath 6 ай бұрын
Funny, these terms are used differently in my country (Czech Republic) or at least I have always understand them differently (I basically grew up on fantasy and sci-fi books). Figh fantasy always meant for me fantasy story focusing on promoting great ideals, moral black and white, etc. example would be LotR where bad characters are pure evil wanting world domination and good characters want's to selflessly save the world. And low fantasy meaning more realistic approach, where all characters have understandable motivations, sometimes intentionally doing bad things to fulfill them, sometimes doing good. Example would be The Witcher.
@Highplayzr6
@Highplayzr6 6 ай бұрын
Amazing way on putting it
@stoned3225
@stoned3225 6 ай бұрын
Odd. Gollum is neither good nor evil. A lot of the elves, Feanor to name one, are not black or white either. The general setting may be ine of good vs evil, but the characters populating middle earth rarely are 100% of any flavour. Think of boromir too…
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
One of Tolkien's main themes is that nothing is truly evil in the beginning. Not even Morgoth or Sauron, so I completely agree. I think that almost everyone in Tolkien's works have some level of "grayness"@@stoned3225
@omen5000
@omen5000 6 ай бұрын
I think it is somewhat bold to say "my own scale, which is basically on par with how most people divide them up", especially considering that you put the Marvel Cinematic universe in there with dimension travelling world ending magic powers, time travel and spacefaring cyber-wizardry using gods. I think this could potentially work as an alternative scale to the classic dual level scale, but could use a bit more criteria than intuition. Also your particular scale creates a very big overlap between low and urban fantasy, which regardless of whether that's good, bad, intentional or unintentional might be something you want to keep in mind or expand upon at some point. Great video on the technical side from audio to visuals over script! Well done!
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! And yeah, the more I’m learning about urban fantasy, the more I suppose I would just consider it apart of low fantasy as a whole. But it is a good distinction to make. I do think it would be interesting to take every marvel movie and rank where it lies on the scale from sci-fi to fantasy
@omen5000
@omen5000 6 ай бұрын
@@aidanpocock If you work out a couple rigorous criteria for a Low/Mid/High scale, that would make for a banger tier list like video with opportunity for community engagement - definitely a great idea! Hope you keep up the videos
@Jiub_SN
@Jiub_SN 5 ай бұрын
@@omen5000to be fair high fantasy effectively does fit marvel more so then low I think. It is earth but a almost entirely different earth, science is completely different, there's magic, gods, the only thing that it really fits low fantasy wise is in being based off of modern earth, but realistically it's so generally different that I think it can't be considered low. A case for middle could be made, but when you think low fantasy you think Harry Potter in that it's just the real world but there's some magic, there's sooo much more to marvel that makes it impossible to say it's low fantasy
@milan0762
@milan0762 6 ай бұрын
I would personally call a Song of Ice and Fire high fantasy with low magic (I'd call LOTR high-high and Harry Potter low-high for reference)
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
I like that distinction, maybe i’ll have to make a tier list or something where I label every project accordingly hahaha
@danielgwynne7266
@danielgwynne7266 6 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t call the book series low magic exactly with all the stuff that has been shown so far with all the warging, dead coming back to life, dragons, euron stuff and everything else . Tv show def is though
@janAlekantuwa
@janAlekantuwa 6 ай бұрын
I would personally also put Star Wars into the fantasy category, but in its own subgenre of space fantasy. While many people would label Star Wars as sci-fi after taking a cursory glance, I would argue that the universe has far more fantasy elements (magical wizards, various sapient species, massive lore and history, disregard for scientific laws and realism, epic good vs evil battles, and complex character relationships) than sci-fi ones. After all, Star Wars is set "a long time ago," and the technology acts more like the magical constructs of Lord of the Rings than the scientifically realistic tech of Star Trek. Hell, Star Wars never even explains why gravity exists in their spaceships, and the ships themselves are designed not with practical spaceship design principles in mind, but rather following the rule of cool. IMO, only two Star Wars pieces break from the fantasy genre, and those are Andor and Resistance; however, every other piece falls somewhere along the fantasy spectrum. The Original Trilogy, Rebels, The Bad Batch, and the Book of Boba Fett feel more Middle Fantasy, while the Prequels, the Sequels, The Clone Wars, the Obi-Wan series, The Mandalorian, and ESPECIALLY the Ahsoka series all feel more High Fantasy except mediæval earthlike society is replaced with multiple worlds of a galaxy far far away
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
I would have to agree with you here. I'd love to make a video exploring Star Wars someday, it's one of my favorite works!
@joshualeonard3831
@joshualeonard3831 6 ай бұрын
I'd consider the Abhorsen series of books to be a good example of Middle Fantasy. Two bordering nations, one like England between the wars, and the other is a High Fantasy world, but both the worlds do have some impact on each other. Magic system is easy enough to understand. Fun series to read.
@jesse6777
@jesse6777 6 ай бұрын
Those books are great! Good example
@LucyKosaki
@LucyKosaki 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I remember when someone told me Harry Potter is fantasy and I was like "nah, for me Fantasy is like tolkien-fantasy with dragons and orcs, elfs, wizards and.... oh, wait...." Because I tried watching the original Lord of the Rings trilogy like 2 times and both times it didn't click for me. The movies felt very long with little plot, they were just traveling, being chased, traveling, being chased, traveling ect. I wanted more battle tactics or mysteries being investigated or more flashy action with special moves. So I associated that with fantasy, but the seperation to different style of fantasy really clears things up for me. Turns out in the end I ended up liking eastern fantasy the most, which is often less indeph and more inspired by fantasy RPGs and MMOs instead of novels.
@Dro_21
@Dro_21 6 ай бұрын
bro, vid is so professionally made, got shocked that u have 28 subs. u gained a new one brother, glad to be here from the beginning ❤💪🏽
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! That’s extremely kind of you to say! I’ve been super bored job hunting lately and have decided to make some KZfaq videos to keep myself busy and practice my editing skills. It’s been a ton of fun and I’m really enjoying it!
@Dro_21
@Dro_21 6 ай бұрын
@@aidanpocock keep up the good work. hope that one day when ure famous, i will proudly say that i was there from the beginning 🔥🔥
@iosifdaneugensechelea8810
@iosifdaneugensechelea8810 6 ай бұрын
I was sure while watching this is one of those professional Channels going deep into Geek Theory about different fantasy Universes, which I just love. Seeing that is not the case surprised me a lot. So you get a new subscriber today.
@ancientdarkness3102
@ancientdarkness3102 6 ай бұрын
Although im a big Lotr fan, i gotta say that low fantasy can be pretty awesome as well, as my second favorite saga is the Chronicles of Ancient Darkness by Michelle Paver. An extremely realistic prehistoric setting with just a little shamanism and otherwordly entities, and she managed to write a story that literally changed my life
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
I’m a pretty big fan of low fantasy as well, I’d love to check out that series! It sounds cool!
@ancientdarkness3102
@ancientdarkness3102 6 ай бұрын
@@aidanpocock do it when you can, It might surprise you🔥
@person-hq2xq
@person-hq2xq 6 ай бұрын
Do, I read them a few years ago and I really like the Stone Age setting which sets it out against almost everything else which is either modern or medieval and as a result it’s much more memorable than most other series
@ancientdarkness3102
@ancientdarkness3102 6 ай бұрын
@@person-hq2xq well said mate
@Nlby001
@Nlby001 Ай бұрын
Whoa, big fan of Wolf Brothers (as the series was translated in my language) and recognised Michelle Paver's name, never knew the series was originally named that! Was a huge fan of the books growing up, haven't read them in over a decade now, but all books are still on my bookshelf right next to me. I agree that it's a very good series (the first two books in particular are favourites of mine), and like someone else said here, the setting in particular really is a standout.
@titusschulzezumhulsen5786
@titusschulzezumhulsen5786 6 ай бұрын
What's the name of the song playing in the background?
@Yungshamgod
@Yungshamgod 6 ай бұрын
Malazan Book of the Fallen is the greatest fantasy world and story ever developed and I’m a big fantasy geek. Highly recommend
@thomasamsler3842
@thomasamsler3842 5 ай бұрын
This is also my favorite series together with the other novels from Erikson in the same world and even the novels from his high school friend Esslemont are good. As they build the world together, though Erikson is the better writer.
@Yungshamgod
@Yungshamgod 5 ай бұрын
@@thomasamsler3842 Well said, although my opinion is that Esslemont is enjoyable for reasons separate from Erikson. They do different things w their part of the world and they do those things expertly
@LadyKestrel23
@LadyKestrel23 Ай бұрын
Omg omg my absolute favorite books! I’m obsessed lol. Hard read but even better as a reread and fun to research. Liked Esslemont’s books but not as much. But any world building in the malazan world is a win win!!
@quimicoz
@quimicoz 6 ай бұрын
How do you classify the other CS Lewis books, "Out of The Silent Planet", Perelandra , that Hideous Strength ?
@v1e1r1g1e1
@v1e1r1g1e1 6 ай бұрын
Religious space opera.?
@Zed-fq3lj
@Zed-fq3lj 6 ай бұрын
This is a great video, with useful information, well done dude! Don't forget that George Lucas considers his Star Wars as fantasy! And what tthe author says is the only thing that defines it. People often misrepresent it as sci-fi, and it has minimal ties to sci-fi, Star Wars is a space fairy tale - a high fantasy. A great genre, old as the human civilisation itself!
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! That's very kind! I agree, Star Wars has always felt a bit fantasy to me. It was one of my favorite series growing up
@plebisMaximus
@plebisMaximus 6 ай бұрын
Yea, it's hard to really call it sci-fi when there's barely any science in it. Instead we have old monk orders feuding with magic, which is pretty fantasy.
@stephenbarrett8861
@stephenbarrett8861 6 ай бұрын
First trilogy only.
@seriousnesstv7902
@seriousnesstv7902 6 ай бұрын
Star Wars is a combined genre of sci fi and fantasy except in recent years they have focused on the sci fi part
@Zed-fq3lj
@Zed-fq3lj 6 ай бұрын
Star Wars ended in 2005. There are no recent years- that Disney joke and excrement is not Star Wars. @@seriousnesstv7902
@simonvegas793
@simonvegas793 6 ай бұрын
Great video mate. I'd deffo watch breakdown style content on the fantasy genre and tropes within in. Glad to have found your channel. Great potential here.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I look forward to making more content in the future!
@derpboi42
@derpboi42 6 ай бұрын
Congrats on getting this video to so many views! I’m glad that KZfaq is getting to spread the content of smaller creators more now
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm completely awestruck at the exposure this video has seen. I'm not sure how this video picked up steam, but I've loved getting to see all these fantasy enthusiasts discuss their favorite stories!
@kwamkproductions
@kwamkproductions 6 ай бұрын
This was an amazing video! You deserve 100x the more amount of subs you’ve got currently
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! That's incredibly kind of you to say! I've been blown away by the amount of comments I've gotten on this video, I only had 22 subscribers when I posted it! I've had so much fun talking with members of the fantasy community, it's been a blast!
@cadyclark4904
@cadyclark4904 6 ай бұрын
The Raven’s Shadow Trilogy by Anthony Ryan and The Riyria Revelations by Michael J. Sullivan are current favorites of mine. I would classify them as high fantasy and they’re the kind of books that I consider old friends and will go back and reread over and over again. I would also give the Wayward Children series by Seanan McGuire a look. These are a series of novellas that would fall under Isekai however they approach it in a different way. There is a school/home for children who have traveled to other worlds and found themselves back in our world. The problem is that they were happier and more suited to the other worlds and never wanted to come back to ours. The worlds are unique and not always nice but the one thing they have in common is that to someone they were more home than our world could ever be.
@100iqgaming
@100iqgaming 6 ай бұрын
hiw would you class howls moving caslte? the book combines both the real world and the fictional one of ingary, however sophie has lived her life in ingary. So would that be middle fantasy?
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
That's a good question. One of the things I love about Hayao Miyazaki's works are that they never really establish whether the story is on our world, or an adjacent one. I think for Howl's Moving Castle, I would probably put it in middle fantasy. But that's a tough one.
@theRockRider1209
@theRockRider1209 6 ай бұрын
I agreed with your division of high and low fantasy and then immediately went wait what about Narnia then and you introduced a solution to the problem right away. Very well thought out definitely liking this and looking into your account more
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
That's incredibly kind of you! I've been having a blast making content and engaging with the fantasy community, I'm excited to keep making more videos!
@theRockRider1209
@theRockRider1209 6 ай бұрын
@@aidanpocock please do so, I subscribed and am looking forward to seeing more from you!
@dancegregorydance6933
@dancegregorydance6933 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I usually call the Cosmere secondary world high fantasy, ASOIAF is secondary world low fantasy, LOTR is high primary world fantasy, Harry Potter is primary/intrusive low fantasy, Narnia is secondary world high portal fantasy.
@birthemuller7310
@birthemuller7310 5 ай бұрын
Would you consider His Dark Materials by Philip Pullman high fantasy or middle fantasy? The last book of the trilogy does play in part in our world.
@musichere3287
@musichere3287 5 ай бұрын
4:14 That is such a shallow description though. If you were to ask me why I like Harry Potter, I would probably say the overarching story is good, the characters are really well-written, the mystery writing is gripping, and the themes are good. I think most Harry Potter fans would agree with my opinion.
@scrappycan
@scrappycan 5 ай бұрын
Would the dark tower series be both?
@jeremycooney7976
@jeremycooney7976 6 ай бұрын
The Belgariad by David Eddings is by far and away the most underrated fantasy series that very few people know about
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know! I’ll add that to my list of books to check out!
@kapitan19969838
@kapitan19969838 6 ай бұрын
Why is it underrated
@bensmith9984
@bensmith9984 6 ай бұрын
I started with the Belgariad. It isn't my favourite fantasy (LOTR) but is my second favourite and I've read a lot of fantasy. I highly recommend the audiobooks as well. Also there is a sequel series while not quite as good is still welcome because of how enjoyable the world and the characters are. The Elenium books are a fun ride as well.
@lpvrooom6714
@lpvrooom6714 6 ай бұрын
Adore that series. Guy Gavriel Kays books are also incredible. the lloyd alexander books where also fun when I was young
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
The Chronicles of Prydain were some of my favorite books growing up. I would kill to see a new adaptation after the tragedy that was the Disney animated film. @@lpvrooom6714
@part9952
@part9952 6 ай бұрын
Extremely interesting topic. I love fantasy and worldbuilding in general. I myself have done a lot of different projects, in private but I have also shared a lot of my work on reddit and on instagram. I think this sort of escapism, doesn’t matter if through getting immersed in your favorite movies or by creating your own fantasy content, is really important to ones mental wellbeing. It just helps to relax and can even make you more creative.
@LGunzo
@LGunzo 6 ай бұрын
Great video, you def deserve more subscribers so it's good to see this video's popped off :)
@SarahGSanders
@SarahGSanders 6 ай бұрын
My Friday just got better! Would Dragon Tales be Middle Fantasy?
@jeffseidl
@jeffseidl 6 ай бұрын
Would you class the Sword & Sorcery genre as a subset of Low Fantasy? Or would you draw a line as two distinct categories?
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 5 ай бұрын
I think it would have to depend on the Sword & Sorcery work in question. I think the subgenres can also be split into degrees of fantasy. Much like I believe there to be Low Dark Fantasy and High Dark Fantasy. The classifications can get confusing, and depend a lot on personal opinion.
@jacobwilkinson9702
@jacobwilkinson9702 5 ай бұрын
Great video! Missed hearing about Star Wars or Star Treks role in the fantasy genre.
@LIF3nOOb
@LIF3nOOb 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video, really enjoyed it, it is really well made and paced. One thing I might add, if someone doesnt like reading too much, there are some really good audiobooks for a lot of good fantasy books, either low/middle and high.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Yes! that is a great point! And I completely agree! I read the entire stormlight archives via audiobook and am currently re-reading the lord of the rings narrated by Andy Serkis, it's incredible!
@PrimusSwallows
@PrimusSwallows 5 ай бұрын
How would you classify something like Mount & Blade or Ace Combat, where there there are no supernatural elements, but the world it takes place on isn't Earth, with different landmasses and countries and history? An extreme version of low fantasy, or something else entirely?
@zmani4379
@zmani4379 6 ай бұрын
Nice video - my understanding is you mean the more fully immersed we are in the alternate reality, the higher the fantasy - this seems a very consistent and straightforward approach, and useful - for my part, I do make a distinction between fantasy and myth - myth seems like us just framing reality as a society in a way to draw out underlying meaning - I think it has something to do w how our minds work, how we use storytelling and metaphor in our thought process - but I think Tolkien was a pioneer in fantasy, a newer genre where the goal is precisely to escape into such a different world - Tolkien was wishing that England had a different mythos than it did, in a way that would tie into England's national identity, and so he set out to create one, like Dr Frankenstein setting out to create his own artificial life form, that would correspond w his ideals - myth and legend are dipping into a shared communal pool, like Mallory and TH White each tapping the Arthurian legends for their own respective generations, or Dante and Milton each feeding into our shared ideas of Heaven and Hell - Tolkien tried this, but seemed unsatisfied, and so instead he constructed his own cosmos from scratch, to bring the readers into a world entirely inside his own mind, informed by his own cosmic rules and lore, modeled on his vast scholarship re how such rules work, which also tied to his language background and his creation of new languages - he created synthetic myths to go w his fictitious languages, and set up a giant frame to house them - I think this is what's different about fantasy as a genre, in a way that intersects w both myth and religion, but is also set apart from them - it frames its reality in mythic terms, but within a context that's cut off from the legacy of heritage, and exists in the mind of its respective author (all the better to copyright? I would also actually include certain space operas like Star Wars among your high fantasy category, since they seem less interested in science, and more in the metaphysical forces that inform fantasy) - and your categorization seems a fine way to consider fantasy on its own terms -
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
I'd love to make a video talking about Tolkien's approach to creating Middle Earth, since I think it's one of the coolest stories
@user-ol7bt4wp1j
@user-ol7bt4wp1j 4 күн бұрын
I like how depending on the implementation of dragons, you can also kinda categorize the type of fantasy You have either the really whimsical fantasy world where dragons, are just these magic fantastical animals that exist (Zelda, Harry Potter, LoL, WoW.) Then you have the more grimdark or grounded worlds, where Dragons in lore either used to roam the world or even rule the world. Or have returned from a long absence and are these great beasts, that just terrorize everything and are like the pinnacle fantastical creature (God of War, Berserk, Dark Souls, Lotr, GoT, Skyrim.) It’s a pretty real thing in fantasy, I would say the way dragons are treated either as semi low level eldritch beings or as just oversized animals.
@TylerBur
@TylerBur 6 ай бұрын
Just subscribed, I am about to watch your skyrim video. You have a great demeanor and I can't wait to see what other fantasy content you have coming!!
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I've been having a lot of fun making these videos and look forward to making more in the future!
@userone-dp4hd
@userone-dp4hd 6 ай бұрын
Such a well made video! I've been a huge LOTR fan ever since my dad introduced the books to me when I was a kid. But you really explained the difference between some of these famous stories in a way I was unable to. I think I definitely have to get around to reading and watching GoT.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it! I know I personally put off watching/reading GoT for years because I'm not a huge fan of excessive violence or nudity being explicitly shown (I understand there are themes important to the narrative that can still exist, but the amount we are shown as a viewer always bothered me) But when I finally did decide to give it a try I was unsurprised to discover that it is in fact an incredibly complex and fantastical story. I really do love the world building, and the characters and kingdoms are all so cool. Besides the last two seasons that were sort of a let down, I think it's definitely worth watching.
@MrGhostTheBigRoast
@MrGhostTheBigRoast 6 ай бұрын
damn bro got blessed by the algo keep it up man
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Dude I know hahaha. I had like 14 views in the first 24 hours. I don’t know how this video popped off
@Lexcoaster
@Lexcoaster 6 ай бұрын
In which catagory would you say does Terry Pratchet's Discworld series belong? Or games like The Witcher or Skyrim? 🙂
@Leightr
@Leightr 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was expecting Discworld to be listed in the "Middle Fantasy" category.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
If I can go ahead and make myself look foolish, I'll admit that I haven't read discworld, so I apologize that it wasn't included. It is on my list of things to do. Skyrim I would consider high fantasy, and if you want more of an explanation why, I just posted a new video going over Skyrim in detail
@red.falcon9717
@red.falcon9717 6 ай бұрын
I recommend The Butler's Apprentice series by James Michael Orr. It takes place in its own universe, but it really provides that sort of introduction through the eyes of a character realizing just how incredible the world around them really is.
@yogurtfluff1
@yogurtfluff1 6 ай бұрын
Would Spirited Away be low or middle fantasy? It is similar to the Narnia series in that the main character finds themselves transported from Earth to a parallel universe.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
So spirited away would probably be considered Isekai, since that is a form of storytelling coined in anime where a character travels to another realm
@bustedsaint9442
@bustedsaint9442 6 ай бұрын
Great video. Agree with your stances. Thanks for the book recommendations! A favorite high fantasy book series of mine has always been Deltora Quest. Read the series way back in elementary school 25 years ago and it’s stuck with me since.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation! And I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I'll add that book to my list!
@Do27gg
@Do27gg 6 ай бұрын
Nice vid mate, really well broken down. Subbed 🫵🏼
@dunringill1747
@dunringill1747 6 ай бұрын
Nice video with well thought out discussion points.
@haydeniskander5306
@haydeniskander5306 6 ай бұрын
One of my favorite high fantasy series is Tamora Pierce's "Protector of the Small" series. "Page" and "Squire" in particular are wonderful.
@K.C-2049
@K.C-2049 5 ай бұрын
I LIVED for The Immortals series when I was younger, which led me to read Song of the Lioness and Protector. I would realize later on that her characters were perhaps a tad Mary Sue-y, but I can't explain how cool it was to be a young girl reading series about young women kicking ass and making huge changes in their societies.
@haydeniskander5306
@haydeniskander5306 5 ай бұрын
​@@K.C-2049 I've not read Song of the Lioness, and I've only read the first book of Immortals, so I cannot really speak to the writing of Alanna or Daine. However, Kel struck me as a very grounded protagonist. I certainly cannot relate to your experience of reading Protector, but it was nevertheless a delightful adventure for me.
@ItsskipppermyG
@ItsskipppermyG 6 ай бұрын
Damn I feel like this channel would have at least 10k subscribers, really high quality shit bro 🙌
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! That's very kind of you!
@roguebarbarian9133
@roguebarbarian9133 6 ай бұрын
Six of Crows and its sequel and spinoffs and An Ember in the Ashes, and its sequels are good examples of modern high fantasy.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
I've heard of Six of Crows, I just might have to check it out!
@dralistic2844
@dralistic2844 6 ай бұрын
I like to believe that J.R.R Tolkien's world, the world of Arda (Middle earth referes to only a certain region of it) is above high fantay. He created a world with a functional timeline that is full of events from the creation to now (look in his letters.) His world had multiple lanhuaged full of complexity that rivals modern day languages. Almost ALLL fantasy stories wouldn't exist if not for Tolkien's world.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Not a lot of people know that the world is Arda, so props to you! I usually just refer to it as Middle Earth because it's more recognizable and easier to explain hahaha. And yes, it is absolutely the most fleshed out world in all of fiction. How many authors create a fantasy world based around fictional languages? It's so freaking cool.
@zarathustrasshadow
@zarathustrasshadow 5 ай бұрын
My favorite genre of modern novels is literary RPG. Don't know if it's a genre by itself or just a subgenre of fantasy. It combines classical fantasy with progression of RPG games. I think it started with Chinese web novels. These are mainly based on Taoism and Chinese mythology. The character starts young, usually 15 years old and grows and trains through the story, explores the world, fights for resources and gear, etc. Depending on the novel, by the end of the story the MC can be 30-50 years old, close to 100 or couple of thousand years old. Chinese novels usually feature brutal martial arts based world where strong rule with iron fist while weak are just stepping stones. The Taoist element is training through meditation, or "cultivation" of inner energy which is the foundation of magic system. Everything passively absorbs energy in these novels, so beasts and plants can become extremely strong over the centuries or millennia they survive. They feature hard magic system which differs from novel to novel. These novels are typically huge, thousands of pages long. My favorite among Chinese novels are Combat Continent aka Soul Land, some 4-5k pages long, which is overall quite good. It has a finished 3D anime. Its sequel Unrivaled Tang Sect, some 8k pages long, which is overall quite good too, but has some overdone love drama, and irrational extreme self-sacrifice for romance. It has a newly started ongoing 3D anime. Another good book is Martial World, 13k pages long. The sequel True Martial world I wouldn't recommend due to MC who is an arrogant prick. The series which is absolute best I read in this genre is Cradle by American author Will Wight. I wholeheartedly recommend it. It's a finished series of 12 books, about 1500 pages in total. It takes the best of Chinese Taoist fantasy, but without overlong descriptions of irrelevant characters and events. It features great writing (lost in fan translation of Chinese web novels), interesting story, and charming and memorable characters. Another good example are comic books, fully colored. Finished Chinese Wu Geng Ji, which has an ongoing 3D anime. And Korean Skeleton Soldier couldn't protect the dungeon. It's a great dark fantasy story, very interesting with heavy RPG mechanics.
@eliasarturfjellander3714
@eliasarturfjellander3714 5 ай бұрын
What an amazing video! Keep up the good work!! :)
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! That's very kind of you!
@robindude8187
@robindude8187 5 ай бұрын
Fantasy that I like: Discworld (but only if you have a sense of humor) The Belgariad series (and its successors) The Sparhawk universe series (not called that, but that's what they are, and you can find it this way) The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever (mid-fantasy, but I can't tell if you'll like it or not. The MC believes he's hallucinating, and it's not even clear if he's _wrong_ about that, but he isn't making constant reference to the real world other than things like how he isn't used to walking long distances and such, which has nothing to do with the real world per se, and that MC is an interesting person who isn't a 'purely good guy', but instead someone who is deeply, deeply flawed and does some horrific things) One high-fantasy thing you don't mention: Star Wars. It's high-fantasy with nuts and bolts. You're literally walking around with _space wizards_ who can do... well, whatever the plot needs them to do (every movie the list of things they can do just gets longer and longer, until by the end of the sequel trilogy it's become _utterly_ ridiculous and actually has me no longer caring about the series). What I find interesting about high fantasy being disliked is how much almost all of us were willing to engage with it when we were young. Spongebob Squarepants. My Little Pony. He-Man. Transformers: Beast Wars. Avatar, The Last Airbender. One Piece. These were all _fantastically_ popular fantasy, and definitely _high_ fantasy as the worlds were either not connected _at all,_ or only superficially (like in Spongebob), and yet kids loved them. Maybe it's the split between animation and live-action which drives this idea that we're supposed to take the live action more seriously? Anyway, have a nice day!
@ChrisBillows
@ChrisBillows 5 ай бұрын
I liked this video and in particular appreciated your reference to loving fantasy being a healthy escapist practice. I’m not a fan of how you divided up the low, middle, and high fantasies but I can see your logic. I think that being in a different world is just one element, there are also elements of different people and different time. The further one moves away from the ‘real world’ in any or all three of those elements the greater our imagination needs to stretch. …a long time ago in a galaxy far far away… says it all. Time, place, and people and how far away they are from us, here and now, is what ultimately determines how low to high the fantasy is.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 5 ай бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it! And yes, I understand the difference in opinion. That seems to be the major divider for people concerning whether they count something as high and low. At the end of the day there is a lot of personal opinion that plays into it. But I really liked your explanation as to why you view the difference as such
@jrrrm3
@jrrrm3 6 ай бұрын
Can we get the backgroung music please 🙏
@brettlionheart
@brettlionheart 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your recommendation at the end of the video that many more people could and should get interested in fantasy. That's very apt! Maybe I'll pick up a series and start reading! I haven't read a fiction book even in maybe 10 years, but I love stories. Thanks!
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
No problem! And that's great you're considering picking up a book and trying it out! Last year I started reading again for the first time in years and found great enjoyment within Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere. There are plenty of fun fantasy worlds to discover, and this comments in this video have given me quite the list of works I need to get around to hahaha
@Sms135ftw
@Sms135ftw 5 ай бұрын
where would you place "He who fights with monsters"
@Frahamen
@Frahamen 6 ай бұрын
The thing with the MCU is that it shows that SF, especially Soft Science Fiction and Fantasy are basically the same thing just presented differently and the distinction between it is ultimately arbitrary.
@celinecharrier9719
@celinecharrier9719 6 ай бұрын
Another reference of Middle Fantasy could be Patrick Rothfuss' book series Kingkiller : a stro,gly built world, but explored step by step through the chronicles of a protagonist. And of course Robin Hobb's Farsseer Trilogy and its sequels
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Great reccomendations! I'll add them to the list!
@melbaker9495
@melbaker9495 6 ай бұрын
Well said. Other Middle Fantasy; Kathrine Kurtz Deryni Series. Placed in a middle ages setting, with Christianity, etc, but with an entirely different map of the world. Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover Series. Technically science fiction but set on a lost colony world where physic powers (basically magick) are cultivated in a feudal society where very different customs and ideas have emerged. The other one I can think of is the amazing Amber series by Zelazny that is set in a multiverse where the only true wold is Amber. The royalty of Amber can walk the shadows (worlds like our Earth) and travel through at the alternative possibilities.
@eriklindellish
@eriklindellish 6 ай бұрын
Great explanation video, thanks so much for the clarity! :)
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 5 ай бұрын
I'm glad you liked it!
@SkyFactionYT
@SkyFactionYT 6 ай бұрын
I love both high and low fantasy! A recent series that I liked a lot was The Portal Wars Saga. They were super great!
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Awesome! I'll add that to my list!
@samwisegamgee6532
@samwisegamgee6532 5 ай бұрын
One key of Tolkien success is the fact that the hobbit society is very close to the English one of Tolkien’s time. The first chapters of LOTR are low fantasy in many ways as they mainly describe normal people lifes. And during all the story, Tolkien keep reminding us this normal life, from Merry and Pippin smoking in Isengard or Sam preparing rabbits not far from Minas Morgul. Tolkien was well aware of the effort needed to enter his world and made everything possible to help his readers. He opposed to the publication of the Silmarillon for that reason : the lack of hobbits of equivalent made it too hard to read to be published as a good story.
@kredik5796
@kredik5796 6 ай бұрын
I found two definitions on low fantasy in Wikipedia. The first one, which you used for this video: "Low fantasy, or intrusion fantasy, is a subgenre of fantasy fiction in which magical events intrude on an otherwise-normal world." The second one reads: "An alternative definition, rests on the story and characters being more realistic and less mythic in scope." I much more prefer the second one. By the first definition GoT, a world where the everyday life of mostly every inhabitant is like the life of a medieval person, is said to be high fantasy. And Harry Potter puts us in such a fantastical world where simple things like eating, reading the newspaper and transportation are magical, and that should be classified as magical? I find this distinction by the first definition not even corresponding with the name of the low/high fantasy genre. I prefer the term intrusion fantasy to describe the first and high/low to describe the second.
@henrykkeszenowicz4664
@henrykkeszenowicz4664 6 ай бұрын
There's one high fantasy setting people forget to put into the genre: Star Wars. It's got -fantasy- alien races, -samurai templar space wizards- Jedi, -magical powers- the force and everything. It's not sci-fi, like the Interstellar, Star Trek or the Expanse, but high fantasy shoved into space. Another example of this genre would be Warhammer. It's a high fantasy setting, and when the authors put it in space, it became way more popular. Space fantasy definitely is a genre separate from sci-fi.
@umberto7641
@umberto7641 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I am thrilled that the algorithm brought me here. I appreciated the examples you gave for Low fantasy (not to be mistaken with urban fantasy, which is a subgenre of Low fantasy) and High fantasy; the Middle fantasy category is a good one. I have some observations to make to the introductory remarks: as a classical philologist by profession, I would say that one cannot apply the label of fantasy to myths and legends-or even epic poems-of the past for the simple reason that they were not meant to be considered fantastical. Take the Iliad: it takes itself to be a historical account of what happened. It is of little importance that later generations of Greeks-since the Vth century-and Romans took it to be 'fantastical,' the text is not built as such. If one wants to find the 'fantasy' spirit in antiquity, one has to look at later periods and at works such as Lucian's True History or the novels (especially, in Latin, Apuleius' Golden Ass). On the other hand, I really appreciated the brief analysis of the famous quote by Tolkien on escapism: it is a very sharp point that he made, even though the deserter's flight today does not speak as powerfully as it did in his times. Keep up the excellent work!
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it! And I agree, I think that fantasy and myth have very direct connections, but also can be tricky to compare. Since it can be seen as insensitive to call someone's religious stories "fantasy" or "made up". So there is a certain level of care that should be taken, and I probably should have done a better job of emphasizing that. I appreciate you comment and your perspective on the subject!
@diamonddiva59
@diamonddiva59 6 ай бұрын
Very good video, it got me thinking
@JoeDawsonBooks
@JoeDawsonBooks 6 ай бұрын
Some really great points Aidan, I agree that high fantasy can be a lot to process but I guess that makes it rewarding as well. I wrote a book that is high fantasy but I worked really hard on its readablity so it's easier to get into. It's called The Goodness Potion and its Side-Effects if you want to check it out. Thanks for the video! :)
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
That's awesome! writing a book is no small feat, so way to go!
@JoeDawsonBooks
@JoeDawsonBooks 6 ай бұрын
thanks so much @@aidanpocock keep making awesome videos!
@RelativelyBest
@RelativelyBest 6 ай бұрын
I'm personally rather fond of portal fantasy stories (or "isekai" if you will) since they practically always feature fish-out-of-water type main characters. That gives you a reason to explain stuff without blatantly info-dumping a lot of exposition, as the protagonist will be just as clueless about the setting as the reader. That way they can both learn everything they need to know together in a way that seems natural.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
That's true, and it is a benefit of the genre. Though there are many other classic tropes authors use to convey the same thing. Oftentimes having a main character come from a backwater town and having little to no knowledge about the outside world ie, the Hobbits in the shire. Can help avoid all that needless exposition dumping that feels out of place
@JarkkoHietaniemi
@JarkkoHietaniemi 6 ай бұрын
I like to recommend the Riftwar Cycle by Raymond Feist. It keeps constantly shifting between middle fantasy (much of the story is very real war and politics) and high fantasy (powerful magic users, and demon hordes).
@melanieclifton7314
@melanieclifton7314 6 ай бұрын
Could not agree more with you
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Awesome! I'll be sure to add that to my list! I've definitely got a lot of homework to do after this video hahaha There have been so many great recommendations
@JarkkoHietaniemi
@JarkkoHietaniemi 6 ай бұрын
I would also like to add that it has long character arcs, it is not just a snapshot of one adventure.
@SUVwanderer
@SUVwanderer 6 ай бұрын
One of my favourites…
@wariolandgoldpiramid
@wariolandgoldpiramid 6 ай бұрын
Never heard of this kind of terminology, but this was interesting.
@JilTheReal
@JilTheReal 4 ай бұрын
Great breakdown! Keep up the good work! 😊
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! That means a lot!
@connorgregory5625
@connorgregory5625 6 ай бұрын
I thought a pretty clear distinction is that high fantasy takes place in a non-Earth setting, which is pretty objective (although I guess there are weird gray lines like LotR)
@withonelook1985
@withonelook1985 6 ай бұрын
My three favorite High Fantasy franchises are the Dominaria Series (over 100 books all covering the same in game MTG universe. The Ice Age Cycle is very good), The War of the Spider Queen (from D&D), and The Sword of Truth series.
@kaspershaupt
@kaspershaupt 6 ай бұрын
Will always stand by the opinion that star wars is high fantasy.
@NoOne-br2ef
@NoOne-br2ef 6 ай бұрын
Cool Video! Interesting suggestion including Middle Fantasy :))
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
@BThings
@BThings 6 ай бұрын
You classified Avatar: The Last Airbender as being High Fantasy, and I wholeheartedly agree with that, but what about Legend of Korra? It is obviously set on the same planet as ATLA, but its 1920s-inspired aesthetic brings in many more elements that make it feel more similar to the real world-cars, radios, movies, telephones, etc. Would that maybe be another example of Middle Fantasy?
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Hmmm, that's an interesting question, I hadn't thought of that. I do think that Legend of Korra might start dipping into middle fantasy. Not because the world itself has necessarily lost any of its fantastical foundation, (the spirit world is a huge part of that series) but because the story itself seems to lean away from magical elements and focus more on industrialization and tech powered antagonists as the driving forces for the narrative. To me, industry and fantasy don't always mix super well. I know some people tend to disagree, but in my personal opinion, there is a threshold before a show becomes middle or low fantasy. Even the original ATLA pushes the boundaries a little bit with the inclusion of war balloons and submarines. Everyone has different opinions and tastes for fantasy genres, but I do know that I myself struggle with steampunk content, and prefer shows set in a pre-modern society. So I did struggle with Korra a little bit because of that.
@alinav11
@alinav11 6 ай бұрын
So would you say Outlander would also be middle fantasy?
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
That's a good question. I might consider it middle fantasy since I feel like middle fantasy is the gray area between high and low. And Outlander is pretty much just historical fiction. Besides the magic of the Druid Ring that sends Claire back in time, there isn't a whole lot of fantasy elements. So yeah, I would either put it in low or middle.
@DYhalto250
@DYhalto250 5 ай бұрын
Where does the nasuverse fall in this scale? While aspects are set in "our world" , thats just parts of it.
@dazanii
@dazanii 6 ай бұрын
GoT delivers elements of high fantasy in a Trojan horse disguised as middle or low fantasy. The further into the series, the more magic is brought back into the world, and before you know it you have wights and white walkers, dragons, blood magic, children of the forest, warging, warlocks at The House of the Undying, the Faceless Men, etc
@jeffreysommer3292
@jeffreysommer3292 6 ай бұрын
There's the Rivers of London series, which is Low Fantasy (sort of what if Harry Potter became a London detective), and the roots of LOTR come from the Norse Sagas as well as the Prose and Poetic Eddas.
@Astro_Spud
@Astro_Spud 5 ай бұрын
Agree. Criminally underrated series imo
@gallopinggargoyles7891
@gallopinggargoyles7891 6 ай бұрын
Is The Dark Crystal or Gormenghast trilogy High Fantasy?
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
I would put the dark crystal as high fantasy. Though the actual subgenre would probably be dark fantasy. I'd love to make a video exploring that more in the future
@jenniedarling3710
@jenniedarling3710 6 ай бұрын
Where would place Philp Pullman's "dark metalis" ?
@m.hoffman2889
@m.hoffman2889 6 ай бұрын
change my mind: Star Wars is high fantasy you get a complete new world/universe, different laws of physics, magicians (Jedi & Sith), different invented societies, monsters etc
@seergioalvareez
@seergioalvareez 5 ай бұрын
Would Star Wars be considered (high) fantasy?
@TheCinephileShow-sw2em
@TheCinephileShow-sw2em 5 ай бұрын
Redwall is a high fantasy novel that I would HIGHLY recomend. Adults and children will enjoy it to the same level however it can be quite dark, brutal and sometimes quite gorry with the character deaths. Important characters are sometimes brutally killed. It can depict darker themes like slavery and famin. Although it can be quite mature the darker themes in redwall are presented in a 12+ manner and would probablly be okay for most children. It can also be quite hard to understand at some points because of the complicated vocabulary and complicated plot. If you are planing on introducing a younger child to it consider reading it to or with them. SUMMARY: It is set in a medieval world ruled by british woodland animals. In each books there is usually a primary protagonist and main villain. There are 22 books with the first one of course being redwall. Once again highly recomend!
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 5 ай бұрын
I love Redwall! I remember reading the books and then watching the tv show as a kid. It was one of my favorites, especially since it didn’t really try to hard to be kid friendly in terms of themes at times. It felt like a very mature story with strong messages that still resonate with me to this day
@keatonmeyer5930
@keatonmeyer5930 5 ай бұрын
Great video, very informative any also entertaining!
@stephenmessano1847
@stephenmessano1847 6 ай бұрын
The Dragonlance Chronicles are a favorite high fantasy series of mine. There are dozens of books set in that universe, but I think the original two trilogies (six books) are the best.
@Nathaniel_Scott
@Nathaniel_Scott 6 ай бұрын
Great video, really enjoyed this
@marknelson55
@marknelson55 5 ай бұрын
For a few years, I have been developing and writing some stories for a world that would have to be considered fantasy, but has less fantastical elements than low fantasy. There are no magic systems, or active deities, or fantastical races. It is based heavily on the real world but with entirely different geography which heavily influences cultures, and a very different history. Some plants and animals are real, others are extinct in real life, and others are made up, including dragons. Some of these differences are more realistic or fantastical than others. I can think of a few other fantasy series with similarly minimal fantastical elements apart from being in a different world, such as Redwall and Ranger's Apprentice. I read both of these from a rather young age. All the characters in Redwall are small animals, sure, but in the dozen or so books I read, I don't really remember anything explicitly magical or otherworldly on a different level. In the Ranger's Apprentice series, there are a couple of fantastical races in the first two books, but they never appear again and from that point on, the whole series scrupulously avoids anything fantastical. The realistic sense is even furthered in the eleventh book anthology, which contains a section following archeologists recovering centuries old documents pertaining to the lives of the series' main characters. I also read the Warriors series, which is set in an apparently contemporary world following cats, with some mythology, making it more like low fantasy, perhaps, though it is still very grounded feeling. I'm not sure what to call this kind of fantasy, perhaps just extra-low fantasy, or alternative universe fiction in a historically inspired setting, or fantasy by technicality. This is not to say that I don't like higher fantasy. I have long enjoyed Tolkien's works, had enjoyed Harry Potter, and more recently have read other fantasy series, including the Cosmere, the First Law, and ASoIaF. I developed a magic system some years ago, but haven't come up with a story to pair it with.
@alibolink0719
@alibolink0719 6 ай бұрын
A great Isekai series is the Beyonders series by Brandon Mull. A kid named Jason falls into a fully fantasy world and its so much fun
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
I do like Brandon Mull, maybe I'll have to check it out!
@ieatsometimes3245
@ieatsometimes3245 6 ай бұрын
Garth Nix's books in his "Abhorsen" or "North Kingdom" series are some of my favorite fantasy books of all time, they feel so different than any other piece of fantasy content. You should check out at least the first book in the series "Sabriel".
@Shashu_the_little_Voidling
@Shashu_the_little_Voidling 6 ай бұрын
I'd beg to differ. From my point of view, the level of fantasy is more about how grand and other worldly the magic system and creatures are, rather than whether or not it takes place in another world. Now, there's some merit to the idea of needing to learn a lot of history and lore and rules that apply to a different world, but I'd argue that something like Harry Potter, despite taking place on Earth, is actually a quite high level of fantasy, just because of how abundant and physics-defying the magic is. In a certain sense LOTR is actually more grounded in reality than Harry Potter
@CybermanKing
@CybermanKing 6 ай бұрын
What would you say Redwall is? Basically Middle Fantasy if we accept talking animals as normal characters?
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh I love Redwall! That was such a major part of my childhood, I remember reading the books and then watching the animated series they came out with. I'd probably put it in middle fantasy yeah, because if you transform all the characters into humans, then it's a pretty straightforward arthurian tale. Not a ton of magic involved. Though I love the aesthetic of Redwall.
@adriennebruce1673
@adriennebruce1673 6 ай бұрын
Is The NeverEnding Story middle fantasy or isekai?
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
hmmm, that's a great question. I haven't watched it in years, so I'm pretty hazy on it. But I'd probably put it either in isekai or low fantasy
@iplayeddsharpminor
@iplayeddsharpminor 6 ай бұрын
Great video. Have long said I don’t care for fantasy but I enjoy Harry Potter to a crazy degree and love game of thrones. In both cases I realise I love the depth of the characters (as I do with so many movies) and the genre can be anything,in those cases the fantasy just being icing on the themes and premise.
@xeganxerxes4319
@xeganxerxes4319 5 ай бұрын
You should definitely check out the Wind Singer trilogy. They’re definitely some of the most unique modern fantasy works you can read, and are totally readable.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for suggesting it! I’ll be sure to add that to the list!
@sethaniel9
@sethaniel9 5 ай бұрын
Definitely check out RA Salvatore's Legend of Drizzt series. It's set in The forgotten realms of D&D.
@gurugoat8298
@gurugoat8298 6 ай бұрын
So glad you mentioned Prydain! Besides Tolkien's legendarium those are my favorite. The Black Cauldron movie was disappointing but still a little fun, but nothing like the books
@nightmarishcompositions4536
@nightmarishcompositions4536 6 ай бұрын
Prydain is pretty underrated. I think it starts off a little rough around the edges, but gets really good the longer it goes on. The character development in the 4th book Taran Wanderer is brilliant.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
The Chronicles of Prydain is incredibly underrated. I loved it so much growing up. And the final book is just such a satisfying culmination of events and character arcs. I'll always remember Fflewddur breaking his magic harp to use for firewood. That is such a powerful character moment. Especially when the final string snaps, it's just done so well.
@Nostripe361
@Nostripe361 6 ай бұрын
I do agree with your points on Isekai/people transported to the fantasy world issue despite being a big fan of the trope. Personally unless you are making a comedy where the point is making fun of the absurdity of the world, its important for immersion for the characters to get used to the world and accept what is happening to them. Basically be shocked and confused by the world at first but be accepting of the new reality by the end of the prologue with the only questioning of it being for explanation of material that the reader needs exposition for. AN interesting discussion I have seen with this type of story telling is whether it is even necessary in some stories. there are many stories, especially in manga or JRPGs, where the person is reincarnated or transported to the new world but after the "prologue" the character barely acknowledges the fact that they have been transported to a new world or anything about their old life. Leading to some feeling that the story could have just been written with the character being a normal denizen of the world and the writer is just using this as a crutch to explain why the character needs exposition dumps in the beginning of the story.
@1ncredulous
@1ncredulous 6 ай бұрын
Nice video. I recently read The Grace of Kings by Ken Liu. It is Asian inspired fantasy and it reads very much like a fictional folklore/history and not like a typical novel. It not filled with magical races and wizards. It may fit nicely into your “middle fantasy” category.
@aidanpocock
@aidanpocock 6 ай бұрын
That seems super cool! I'd love to check it out!
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