The Different Ways to Tally

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4 ай бұрын

I go through the history and the different ways to count with a tally.
Sources:
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@Zachyshows 4 ай бұрын

Using lying, i can count up to 8 billion

@henrysaid9470 4 ай бұрын

Wow, You’re so talented

@P.Manoel 4 ай бұрын

Pfft, I can count up to a hundred thousand billion morbillions.

@Alphoric 4 ай бұрын

The only limiter would be time and the insanity you would face after counting to 7,986,526,928 and then losing your place and having to start over

@cubruce1103 4 ай бұрын

real

@samwisegamgee6532 4 ай бұрын

The question is, why can’t you do the same while standing or sitting?

@jckyu 4 ай бұрын

Using 正 as a tally mark reminds me of running for class president during primary school back in China. My teacher used 正 for counting votes. As a kid i would think about other Chinese glyphs for this work, like any glyph with five strokes would work. But later on I found 正 to be the most elegant option, for its order of strokes is horizontal line - vertical line - horizontal - vertical - horizontal.

@Kouma013 3 ай бұрын

I was such an insufferable brat as a kid that I would probably have used 四 for counting just to mess with people's brains.

@BirdieRumia 3 ай бұрын

@@Kouma013 or worse, count in base 4 using 六 lol

@Emile.gorgonZola 3 ай бұрын

@@BirdieRumia or 五

@Walker74382 3 ай бұрын

@@Emile.gorgonZoladang lol

@donaldlee8249 3 ай бұрын

Japan use the same tally mark known as 正の字, I wonder its origin, or is it just China and Japan both invented it in parallel

@MSKofAlexandria 4 ай бұрын

For counting, I like to use finger binary. Using two hands you can count up to 1023.

@katakana1 4 ай бұрын

What's 132 in finger binary

@wyhiobcarlile4879 4 ай бұрын

0001000110@@katakana1

@user-tl4bg3ci3g 4 ай бұрын

@@katakana1 oops

@leonardolf6974 4 ай бұрын

@@katakana1 I see what you did there ps: 00100 00100

@Yotanido 4 ай бұрын

Imagine I'm showing you a 132 ...because I really struggle isolating my ring finger like that. I can sort of do every combination by physically blocking the fingers from going up using the rest of my hand, but it's quite uncomfortable.

@RingoBuns 4 ай бұрын

If I got stung by hundreds of hornets, I'd be dead.

@RingoBuns 4 ай бұрын

Checkmate, atheists.

@atimholt 4 ай бұрын

I independently invented the system at 3:36, except I continue with another diagonal stroke, then put dots inside each of the 4 empty triangles formed, making it useful up to 10. Somewhat similar to that forestry one you mentioned, except much easier to cram close together: every grouping is always completely self-enclosed. In addition, if I happen to have a situation where I'm able to add tens of tallies at a time, I have a shorthand for a ten tally: a square with a single dot in the center. If I want an even shorter shorthand for multiple tens, I contain the number, minus its trailing zero, inside a square/squarish box, keeping its digits separate from other such figures and making it clear its also an additive part of the other surrounding tally marks.

@jhonbus 4 ай бұрын

Nice, I'm gonna use this!

@FaPsAnimates2 3 ай бұрын

But I don't get why they say that it's the most common tally in Latin America,I'm Latin American and have never seen that sort of tally.

@bobasekai 3 ай бұрын

@@FaPsAnimates2 it's very common here in brazil

@Shadow-dm7bt 4 ай бұрын

I'm happy you mentioned the 10-count boxes as this is what I use and I've never seen anyone else do it besides the one who showed it to me

@dogindagrass 4 ай бұрын

I like using a 5 point star as tallymarks

@metawarp7446 4 ай бұрын

What line do you start with?

@dogindagrass 4 ай бұрын

@@metawarp7446 bottom left to the top point.

@metawarp7446 3 ай бұрын

@@dogindagrass thanks for responce :)

@Mikelaxo 3 ай бұрын

@@dogindagrass correct

@shyfolium 4 ай бұрын

tally hall is so ingrained in my brain that whenever I see "tally" all I think about is TALLY HALL!! TALLY HALL!!

@KingCrafter999 4 ай бұрын

We're in the mini mall!!

@frankhooper7871 4 ай бұрын

I immediately think of Harry Belafonte singing "Come Mr tallyman, tally me bananas".

@robinsparrow1618 4 ай бұрын

working the carnival!

@figitorynonsense 4 ай бұрын

SAME???

@hermi1-kenobi455 4 ай бұрын

Tally hall fans… in the wild…

@goldend791 4 ай бұрын

Even better option to count wasps is to count how many sting marks they left on you, since you don't have to engage with the objects themselves but rather their imprint on some medium (your body)

@svennoren9047 4 ай бұрын

An elegant solution, since a wasp can only sting once.

@goldend791 4 ай бұрын

@@svennoren9047 wasps can sting multiple times but as far as I know they don't regenerate their venom like a cooldown ability, so you do need to exclude the uninflamed stings. But I don't actually know how long it takes for a wasp to get another dose of venom.

@literatesasquatch 4 ай бұрын

I met someone from China who used 五 (the number 5) as a tally mark. It was techincally writing it incorrectly as 五 is four strokes but he would treat the third stroke as two separate strokes and have a line of 5s that all meant five. I played with making seven segment 5s (which use 5 of the 7 segments) but it just didn't stick with me.

@T33K3SS3LCH3N 3 ай бұрын

Oh that's cool. For context, the third stroke is the horizontal line in the middle, which then extends into the vertical line in the lower right. So it already looks like two different lines anyway.

@Kyle._.H 3 ай бұрын

That’s evil

@HEELY. 3 ай бұрын

"Your new job is counting hornets." Me, who's deathly allergic to hornets: My WHAT?

@anidiot4702 4 ай бұрын

great video can’t wait for the sequel Different Ways To Hall

@Yvelluap 4 ай бұрын

getoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyhead

@Harlow. 3 ай бұрын

@@Yvelluap you're walking in the woods. there's no one around and your phone is dead. out of the corner of your eye you spot them; *_tally hall._*

@Dracopol 4 ай бұрын

You didn't say why tallies look like they do. Farmers collected stalks of wheat by hand and took a stalk of wheat to tie bundles together at intervals.

@dojelnotmyrealname4018 4 ай бұрын

I feel like the tallies wouldn't work with the hornets. After the ordeal there is /no/ way you're gonna know which ones you haven't countered already. So the tallies would be useless. Also, ordered groupings vs disordered individual tallies distorts the effect. You'd be able to count individual tallies using multiplication if you wrote them down ordered, just as you would not be able to do it with grouped tallies if they weren't in a proper grid. The real reason to group tallies is because we can count up to 4 things at a glance, but have to start individually counting at 5. It's called subitizing.

@chillingwarmly5155 4 ай бұрын

_italicised_

@aeaeeaoiauea 3 ай бұрын

_italicization_ is done with _ underscores, not slashes

@dojelnotmyrealname4018 3 ай бұрын

@@aeaeeaoiaueaY'know the slashes were intentional, I didn't mean to italicize.

@aeaeeaoiauea 3 ай бұрын

@@dojelnotmyrealname4018 nvm

@Pechugo83 4 ай бұрын

I'm from Spain myself and I've played many card games before. But I have to say, I have never in my life seen that square tally mark system. Not as a tally at least, everyone I've ever seen count with tally marks would use the common method used in the US

@mjbalbo 4 ай бұрын

In Chile at least we use the square tally mark.

@DerPinguim 4 ай бұрын

@@mjbalboIn Brazil as well

@suicaedere7244 3 ай бұрын

We use it in Argentina. The match variant as well.

@agme8045 3 ай бұрын

It’s funny how Spaniards refuse to use English words under any circumstance, but will copy the Germanic/anglosaxon tally system without even thinking about it

@malegria9641 3 ай бұрын

I’ve seen it in France but only by old people

@ComfyestofBois 4 ай бұрын

In Portugal we use WHAT?! Ain't no way, I've NEVER seen that being done here in my life xD it's always ||||/

@lazyyfox7914 4 ай бұрын

I use to work an inventory job that was a lot of counting and 正 tallys are objectively the best. Also, tally hall.

@Aaron55721 3 ай бұрын

The latter two tally seems better than the first one. When I use it, the four identical vertical lines make it slower to read and offer more opportunities for mistakes. It would be harder to notice, too.

@Piper_____ 3 ай бұрын

I actually use pen-and-paper tallies in my job. I scorekeep for hockey, and part of my job is to count shots and goals per team per period. Using a digital tally doesn’t work as well because I want to be able to separate shots by period and by team - and be able to go back and visually see the numbers. I divide my paper into 2 columns (one for each team) and three rows (one for each period). To signal that a shot went in, I put a dot under the tally mark when I count the shot. This system lets me easily figure out “5, 10, 13 shots… 2 goals… 11 saves,” for each goalie for each period. Edit: math 😅

@Brok3nC4rrot 4 ай бұрын

I count stacked goods at work (sheets of particle board/plywood/mdf) and I count them by marking their edges thus: I mark a dot '.' on each of 1-4 and 6-9, a stroke '--' on each 5, and a plus '+' for 10, two '++' for 20, etc.; very useful for counts between 1 and 50 . . -- . . . . ++ . . . . -- . . . . + . . . . -- . . . . 27

@KuyaEyo 3 ай бұрын

Wait the video is only 10 days old. It feels like a random 3 year old video from a variety youtuber and it feels like i must have seen a video about this topic atleast once before

@VictoriaWolczynska 3 ай бұрын

The chinese tally looks like what happens if you put 2 portals in eachother

@case_sensitive 3 ай бұрын

What do you mean by that

@VictoriaWolczynska 3 ай бұрын

@@case_sensitive from the game portal?

@case_sensitive 3 ай бұрын

@@VictoriaWolczynska I don't really see it. And I've played both games

@louisthewolf0816 3 ай бұрын

正 I dont rlly see it tho 🤔 can u elaborate?

@miketacos9034 4 ай бұрын

You’ve earned a subscriber.

@ZelphTheWebmancer 4 ай бұрын

I count this as one good video

@chickensalad3535 3 ай бұрын

The square with the line through it seems very efficient.

@pedrotaq 4 ай бұрын

TRUCO MENTIONED 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷

@TheFansOfFiction 3 ай бұрын

I'd think the bigger problem would be that all the wasps moved, so you'd be recounting them anyway.

@alynnzz0491 4 ай бұрын

It is possible* to count up to 1,023 on just your two hands (and up to 4,095 if you have six fingers on each hand) using binary. * This is possible, yes, but not practical for most people.

@hairykiwi165 3 ай бұрын

ive always tallied using five crossed out Is instead of four. i understood it as "i got five of the things, so im gonna cross them out to know im done with this section", it never occurred to me to count the cross out line as another "object". it also just feels and looks more pleasing to me to have a group of five represented that way

@kiwipomegranate 3 ай бұрын

I like to Tally in the Hall

@Harlow. 3 ай бұрын

i can see you're in the minimall

@Walker74382 3 ай бұрын

back in my days, 正 is used to tally many different things, and I can confirm most of what is said about for the Chinese counting method is indeed 「正」

@izme1000 4 ай бұрын

3:30 Very very very....very correct

@Nonononono_Ohno 3 ай бұрын

Now please make a video that shows how you tally count the wasps in the nest shown at 0:19, with wasps swooshing in and out all the time!

@AnamobisThgirb 4 ай бұрын

Peak Content

@alex-726 3 ай бұрын

Oooooh I thought the title was “The different ways to italy”. This makes a lot more sense

@metsfan1873 3 ай бұрын

You left out the baseball umpire's tally device, which clicks off balls and strikes. Long story short, the count is kept for every batter and cleared when the next batter starts. It counts two things, balls up to 4 and strikes up to 3. Fancy ones also keep score.

@ATIMELINEOFAVIATION 4 ай бұрын

Lol, my Chinese name has 正 in it

@sournois90 4 ай бұрын

do characters in chinese take different pronunciations at times? does that make it difficult to read names? is 正 in your name supposed to mean something or was it just picked for the sound of it? the idea of having a number in your name is pretty cool

@ATIMELINEOFAVIATION 4 ай бұрын

@@sournois90 no, 正 is not the word for the number 5 😂 it’s a character with a completely different meaning that is just sometimes used to tally things up because of how it is written.

@harrisonworden 4 ай бұрын

my teacher in middle school gave me an ink stamp with 正 on it, had no idea it meant "correct" untuk watching this video but I guess I can mark peoples homework correct in Chinese now 🤣

@zyanai 4 ай бұрын

@@sournois90 Chinese characters in Mandarin have only one pronunciation. In languages that borrowed the hanzi, they can have different pronunciations: for example in Japanese the characters have a "kun" (japanese, 1+syllables) and "on" (chinese transcription, one syllable) reading, and they can take many more different pronunciations in words or names. For example, in Japanese the tally character 正 has two kunyomi (tada, masa) and two onyomi (sei, shou). In names it can be pronounced "oo", "kuni", "ma", "masashi", "tadashi", or many other ways. You just have to know which reading to use for a name, often there is no certain way to tell just from reading it on paper. People often introduce themselves by saying their name and the characters it's written with (e.g. "I'm Honda Tadashi, 'Tadashi' written with the character for 'correct'"). I can't think of any numbers appearing in Chinese names, but there are some Japanese names that have number one in them like 一ノ瀬 (Ichinose, it's a surname though). East Asian given names are usually chosen for their meaning unlike most Western names.

@AXKfUN9m 4 ай бұрын

@@zyanai Wrong. Many chinese characters have different pronunciations. 长 has zhǎng and cháng, 行 xíng háng, 为 wèi wéi, 着 zhe zháo zhuó zhāo. And there are more.

@oz_jones 3 ай бұрын

4:37 funnily enough, in Finnish the five-stroke tally shown in 0:49 for example is called as "logger's tally".

@theofficeroliviersamson4498 3 ай бұрын

Roman numerals used to be random symbols, but then evolved to look more like letters, like the numeral for 500 (D) came from the roman numeral for 1000 (at the time it was just a circle with a stick through it) so the numeral for 500 was simply half of the circle, turning into a D.

@KaitouKaiju 3 ай бұрын

The problem with the physical box method is if you want to count objects that aren't all the same size it won't work well

@isla2593 3 ай бұрын

The opening felt like a GCSE question, instantly felt the panic haha

@mbg8733 3 ай бұрын

Wasn't the tally from the DRC not just a period tracker?

@Ahwithyesh1112 3 ай бұрын

I subscribed

@thiagof414 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@flamencoprof 4 ай бұрын

I think, at least in the British Isles, there have been oral forms of tally which also correlated with finger positions. Used for livestock. Someone will know.

@telesniper2 4 ай бұрын

I allways count with tally sticks because its consistent and complete (Pressberger arithmetic)

@NoahSpurrier 3 ай бұрын

Clocks use the Roman numeral IIII for 4.

@proton.. 4 ай бұрын

tally hall

@Harlow. 3 ай бұрын

tally hal

@Kavukamari 4 ай бұрын

i prefer the hall method to tally

@Harlow. 3 ай бұрын

indeed, the hall method is the best

@0x0404 3 ай бұрын

It is interesting that most of the simple tally methods count to 5

@javindhillon6294 2 ай бұрын

My favorite by far is the forestry tally

@cathacker13 3 ай бұрын

I once actually invented my own tally system First, you make three vertical lines and then you cross them with another three vertical lines to form a grid of sorts, meaning that you get to count up to 6 things per tally I created it because I watched a video about base 6 counting some time before then and i was just sort of bored I've also never used it, because i personally do not count in base 6 Why did I make it

@coding01 3 ай бұрын

TALLY LIKE TALLY HALL OMG NO WAY WTF OMG OMG

@Harlow. 3 ай бұрын

GUYS I TS A TALLY LHALL REFERENCE LIKE THE HIT BAMD STARTE DI N ANN ARBOR MICHIGNA IN 2002 GUYS!!1! /POS

@mymo_in_Bb 4 ай бұрын

The box tally also uses two different lengths. the square root of 2 isn't 1, you know?

@masuterukasu 4 ай бұрын

but it's bigger than 1, so you can fit it in.

@C4Oc. 4 ай бұрын

@@masuterukasu The reason you can fit it in specifically, is that while the stick as a perfect diagonal at 45° might be 1 long, each of the sides are only 1 ÷ sqrt(2) long, so shorter than 1. Again, only accurate for a perfect 45° angled diagonal stick, relative to the other sticks

@paulperez3324 3 ай бұрын

Tally hall reference?

@Harlow. 3 ай бұрын

give us the different ways to hall

@Ledonail Ай бұрын

okay, but why is the French/Portugese/Spanish tally different tho ??

@Magnustopheles 3 ай бұрын

As someone who isnt a Tally Hall fan but is vaguely aware of their popularity, this comments section is fun (and also holy crap is tally hall brainrot that powerful?)

@tekurohamada7068 4 ай бұрын

My whole life I thought the tally mark (didn’t even know it was called that) had 5 vertical lines crossed by another one, I don’t know if pop culture and media lied to me or I just didn’t notice but either way I’m kind of frustrated because having 4 vertical lines crossed by the fifth one makes more sense and I consider myself an observant and analytical person, and finding this out just now makes me disappointed in myself

@NowNormal 4 ай бұрын

How do you know which hornet you've already counted tho?

@MrThink.Science 4 ай бұрын

Using Apple Vision Pro

@inconnudu9387 3 ай бұрын

As French, I've never seen this form of tally.

@bluemanblue2316 3 ай бұрын

... Hall.

@Ggdivhjkjl 4 ай бұрын

Only 200 times happier?

@djvnmofficial6789 3 ай бұрын

You sound a bit like Chills

@Ggdivhjkjl 4 ай бұрын

I never took that job.

@manabellum 4 ай бұрын

So I pressed the subscribe button 20 times but it seems the tally did not increase 😂

@yarnmisery 3 ай бұрын

he just wants subs

@Cladded_Bean 4 ай бұрын

Yes

@gustavosilva7361 4 ай бұрын

In portugal the square one isn't used, we uso ||||/

@jacquelinefarago 3 ай бұрын

the german one:💀💀💀

@paiwanhan 3 ай бұрын

Why doesn't he just count the sting marks?

@Liam-ls4rn 4 ай бұрын

Hall??????????????

@Harlow. 3 ай бұрын

@@aarna707 theres more where this came from :3

@ExploringNew1 4 ай бұрын

How on earth are you going to count hornets??

@der.Schtefan 4 ай бұрын

But can you melt the hornets with citric acid?

@simonruszczak5563 3 ай бұрын

No, but it can neutralise their sting.

@marblecar1162 4 ай бұрын

hall

@j.r1466 3 ай бұрын

Tally hall reference?????????

@ananas_anna 3 ай бұрын

I don’t get why they don’t use 五 instead, it means 5 and it also had 5 lines.

@Alasterius41 3 ай бұрын

because 五 is properly written in 4 strokes instead of 5. 五 has 4 strokes: 1) 一 2) l 3)𠃍4) 一

@ArturdeSousaRocha 4 ай бұрын

Life hack: To keep hornets away, plant some peppermint and lavender. 😊

@azrobbins01 4 ай бұрын

Sorry, it will only let me subscribe once :( If I subscribe with my 2nd account will I get 2x the videos?

@notruminari5668 3 ай бұрын

Hey i've seen that symbol before. no need to ask, you already know the answer

@Doinkular 3 ай бұрын

something something TALLY HALL REFERENCE❗❗🙀🙀 something something

@frankhooper7871 4 ай бұрын

A perhaps interesting addition to this is the old English yan-tan-tethera counting system where (frequently) shepherds would count to 20 then make a mark on the ground or move their hand on their crook. It's thought this might be the origin of the nursery rhyme "hickory, dickery, dock" as 8, 9, 10 would be "hovera, dovera, dick" in some areas.

@pieman3141 3 ай бұрын

This is somewhat incorrect. Roman numerals are most likely based on a tally system. It was later on when the letter 'I' was equated with the Roman number 1.

@simonruszczak5563 3 ай бұрын

Maybe the true origin of their country's name. I tally -----> Italy

@simonruszczak5563 3 ай бұрын

The V = 5 is from Venus occultism. Venus passes in between (occults) the Earth and Sun 5 times every 8 years. L = 50 because L is ten times V (10 * 5). L represents Saturn (El) the mythological husband of Venus (his "Ev"). Mythologically, the Sun is their son. The sacred number of the Sun is 7 😮 (son ----> Sun)

@accountpc4311 4 ай бұрын

I thought for sure there'd be more

@mapleint997 4 ай бұрын

sqrt 2 =1 type shi

@NTBXP1 3 ай бұрын

Be honest. You saw 正 on illustrations that no child should see.

@Magnustopheles 3 ай бұрын

I am so glad I wasn't the only one thinking it

@ErikTheOrphan 3 ай бұрын

That's how I first learned about that tally system

@Garfield_Minecraft 4 ай бұрын

正一｜一｜一

@sournois90 4 ай бұрын

my mind just exploded

@user-oe5eg5qx4c 4 ай бұрын

from wikipedia commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%E6%AD%A3-order.gif#/media/File:%E6%AD%A3-order.gif

@richiehoyt8487 4 ай бұрын

Who/what t.f. is Tally Hall?!

@Harlow. 3 ай бұрын

band formed in ann arbor michigan, very cool band that makes a lot of fabloo/wonky rock music they all wear different color ties btw

@semsengul 4 ай бұрын

🎉

@Alphoric 4 ай бұрын

It’s crazy that they think people trying to survive would need to have prime numbers for any reason

@agme8045 3 ай бұрын

I mean, even if you are just trying to survive, as a person living back then, there wasn’t much to do on your “free time”. Like I’m thinking of disabled people, who couldn’t do any sort of hunting, gathering, building, kind of jobs, like I bet there were times were nothing much happened and they had food shelter and basic needs covered

@MaxLai_0104 4 ай бұрын

if you don't use 正 you're wrong

@oldcowbb 4 ай бұрын

正 is literally correct, literally

@Baburun-Sama 3 ай бұрын

Chinese, Japanese, All that is the Same...

@Orchid_user-789 3 ай бұрын

I’ve been searching for this comment

@stupidratt 4 ай бұрын

can i tally in a hall

@accountpc4311 4 ай бұрын

She criticizes me for being egocentric

@harshhorde3649 4 ай бұрын

only in a minimall.

@Louis14022 4 ай бұрын

@@accountpc4311 You practice your mannerisms into the wall

@Cat-Noggin 4 ай бұрын

@@harshhorde3649working the carnival

@Harlow. 3 ай бұрын

@@Louis14022 if this mirror were clearer i'd be standing so tall

@nutbastard 4 ай бұрын

Good content but your microphone setup needs work. Your gain is too high (or you're sitting too close) and you need a pop filter to soften your S's and plosives. Or just a better mic.