Sounds like it. Met the wrong people..

Yep!

Paul I’m from Newcastle aswell worked as a dj in many of our underground rave scene dj in kiss affinity ikon hanger 13 the boat all over. I went to Tenerife few years ago and we where getting pills of youngsters selling them just like how Lucy and her mates look one of the lads even had a hat on saying MR DUST wey a bet you can tell what we where buying of him. All the people we bought stuff of where English kids somethings going on with Lucy and her whole crew if you see her instagram she’s having 13 holiday in the past six months to festivals and rave events all over Europe if that doesn’t tell you what she’s up to I don’t know what does

@@WarrickHunt It's crystal clear to those of us in or familiar with the scene. I think most people can pick up substances were involved but not to what extent. Ending up with randoms at festivals is part of the experience, even if you're not supplying, something very specific to raves/festivals. Your average person going out to a club sticks to their crew. At festivals everyone is looked at as family-ish.

@@someoneusa this Lucy is deffo more then just a flyer girl or trying to get you in to the bar this is what she apperently was doing for four months in Tenerife in 2023 the life style she has is deffo not from wages from doing that job Every person trying to get us in there bars asking us if we wanted pills or cocaine all young English lads and lasses lads thinking there gangsters and lasses up there own arses who love themselves it was laughable. As some of us where connected with local dealers in Newcastle and seing these youngsters just being open and asking anyone one was mental

17 times?!

@@CrimeAuditors yeah it was all on her Facebook until she took it all down.

17 times! I darent even hazard a guess where someone so young can raise enough money for that, plus accommodation and keep, without my eyebrows going up!! Where I work hard and can’t afford a holiday full stop….how (unless illegal means) can this be done?, very concerning, as it doesn’t sit right at all.

What kind of a little piece is she?

​@@sambobrooklyn316 took it down! This clowns getting found out no doubt... Complete amateur.....shes got the arrogance and confidence to spin lies just not the intelligence

😂

She even has the media writing "missing teen Jays friend Lucy is doing everything she can to help find him". To me she seems like a narcissist. Also she spsdly been to Tenerife 17 times this year and that she had her social media wiped of all prior trips

That despicable (Han)cock was actually laughing as he pretended to cry on TV. And the TV presenters went along with it, he was 'emotional'. 🙄

These are my exact thoughts.

Well, I’m hearing I don’t know if it’s the truth, but I’m just saying what I’m hearing, that the two men had this Rolex in the car so I’m wondering if Jay has tried to make a quick getaway with the watch thinking that these guys were asleep or something and they’ve caught up with him, who knows

I would agree with you, Catriona. 💯% dodginess about those two random s.

My theory is a lot less like a movie script than yours. he went with the 2 men to buy drugs at their apartment, then he got lost in the wilderness trying to get back.

As it's nine days later after your comment, it looks like you were exactly on point. I do tire of people on social media downplaying what civilian "armchair detectives" can add to the solution.

it truly makes me believe the police investigating are corrupt, as lucy’s phone exposed alot of her inconstancies. they can access the sound information of her call with jay and see what was said, they can see that she called him and not her calling him, they can see her location for months previously and see when she left the rave and where she went, see that her evidence provided for jays location is missing the battery percentage at the top and doesn’t even look like his phone took the screenshot. even see her involvement with dealing drugs. like???

@@tallula5164it’s possible that Brad knows what has happened

I would have called the police and driven there.

Exactly. It’s common knowledge on the streets of Tenerife that she’s a big time drug peddler so I’d say she has a vested interest in finding him before contacting police, if what she says is true…it’s not been verified that she spoke to him and she’s left things out so I’m starting to believe the story of him selling drugs and losing the bag , which has ended up in him being set up by her and dealers and her making up a load of crap to cover it all, while collecting the missed money.

She’s been saying about the Spanish police “they don’t even speak English “ so how can she claim that she called 911 and reported him missing in the morning after she spoke to him (allegedly) and she said that they told her that they were going to send a helicopter up but she said she spoke to local people where he last was and they didn’t hear any helicopters so she speaks fluent Spanish Then they kept putting the phone down on her so she got a taxi to the police station! She can’t keep her story straight

She’s been saying about the Spanish police “they don’t even speak English “ so how can she claim that she called 911 and reported him missing in the morning after she spoke to him (allegedly) and she said that they told her that they were going to send a helicopter up but she said she spoke to local people where he last was and they didn’t hear any helicopters so she speaks fluent Spanish Then they kept putting the phone down on her so she got a taxi to the police station! She can’t keep her story straight

@@jesclifford88i think it might’ve not quite gone down like that but she obviously has some setup going on in Tenerife and she enrolled jay he looked out of his head on the videos of that night yeah I think he’s lost something and she’s not gonna give the money over to cover the loss And she ain’t gonna trust jay to earn it back so he collateral damage and she’s done the go fund me to cover the losses At say £20 a thing that’s 600 to make a 30k debt no? Sounds like she’s saving her own skin but she’s outing herself

You won't find many kids telling their mum they are going away to sell gear

You are correct.. most wouldn’t.. but she was already aware he was a criminal and in lower class house holds breaking the law isn’t a big deal

Indeed. Getting her alibi straight from the word go.

agreed

Cover.

@@pooooornopigeon IF she was a true friend, she'd tell LE everything so there'd be the best chance of finding him. Reminds me of Sebastian's mom and dad, leaving out details in order to cover themselves. Lots of fig leaves.

She talked to him in the morning or atleast says she talked to him. Also I read his ex girlfriend was also on the trip and some others they knew and Lucy apparently had been there 17 times this year and scrubbed her social media but someone went on the waybackMachine and took screenshots of her previous trip pics. Maybe drug mules and they swallowed pills coke and he didn't give his up or something and they found him

And a snap chat video of a 360 of his surroundings

He could have done, but that he didn't doesn't mean anything at all.

Why are you expecting him to be coherent enough to problem solve like that? He had been raving for days, had minimum sleep, was very likely dehydrated before setting off on the journey, and was likely still under the influence when he thought walking 10 hours would be a good idea.

That’s what made me think it was odd he sent a screenshot of his location ( only reason I could think that a screenshot would be sent whist on 1% is to edit it to take out the metadata and the time and date from the screenshot) she didn’t even explain why he phoned her she didn’t say he wanted me to get help to find him and the half finished sentence about go back to where you were and I will come and get you! Well he didn’t know where that was but obviously Lucy knew where it was or how could she offer to get him if he went off with two friends that she didn’t know or where it was

@@janedoh123 exactly i said this from start plus she said she found the house from jays snap chat photo of the stairs and plant pot lol he didn’t know where he had been or where he was so how did she know the house was in the town it was

I’m suspicious of those two guys he went with and whether he was drugged and was confused. I mean plenty of men have been drugged with GHB by a stranger unknowingly and either killed or s*xually assaulted. I think Jay must have been under the influence of some kind of drug to have said he’d missed the bus, when in fact it hadn’t left yet, and then deciding to walk back to his hotel. No phone battery, no water and then walking the wrong way. Why on earth he went anywhere with two guys he’d only just met and leaving his friends behind is beyond me. I find it even more strange that from what I gather one was aged 40 and not anywhere near Jays age or his group of friends - just why would he have even considered going with them unless he was under the influence of something as he’d already fallen on the dance floor with a video that was released today. I’m putting my money on those guys having something to do with this and they’d get away with it by letting Jay wander off in the wooded landscape. They definitely need to be questioned further. They say their flight was pre booked and not booked just because Jay vanished but predators plan in advance and could have only been there knowing about the festival and preying on vulnerable kids. I don’t like the sound of those guys at all.

​@@FredaFlynn2008both guys have spoken with police and are now back in the Uk

Have they checked all around the festival site or just the alleged walk back route ?

He was spotted twice at the bus stop at around the time Lucy said he made the call the morning after the festival. He asked a local what time the bus was due

Vanderslot admitted he choked her and hit her and then slid her into the ocean to float away

Possible scenario

From Dawn Wilson

Please, take a look at a video from Masca, the road to and from Santiago del Teide until Buenavista. The chances of him running anywhere along that mountain road after a whole weekend of partying, i don't think so. Not even healthy hikers will RUN up that road. Bikers will bike but RUN..with a hangover from the whole weekend?..naah..he would have run 10 meters at the most steep uphill. . I would post a link here but content creators are not keen on that, and it is very difficult here to explain where he was last seen; ( he spoke with my friend Ofelia who is the owner of the shop next to the bus stop. note not the only bus stop, but the LAST bus stop if you are on your way toward Buenavista from Santiago del Teide where the bus turns around on a loop route., asking her for the bus time, apparently. Later she saw him WALKING when she was on the way to Buenavista herself and she though, oh the dude is walking in the wrong direction..however, he did not walk in to NOTHING. He walked ALONG THE ROAD(only one road) in order for her to be able to make such an observation. If you go off that road, you down in to ravines and more ravines. UP from the road you would not even want to try because it's all straight horizontal cliff. Why would someone walk in to ravines without houses in a state of thirst with no tel charge? Nah.. Still the best thing to do is to "take a drive" to Masca via a video. I assure you all that will clear up a lot like..naah..that did not happen.

Hang in there. I think things will improve.

Unfortunately too many people fell for the COVID jabs and now regret their life choice.

Totaly bloody agree. You couldnt be more right. 😊

Maybe he had time to tell her an extended story on the 1% ?? The whole story is a load of 💩

No Lucy started the go fund me the mother wasn’t even mentioned in the post, i think Lucy jumped on the bandwagon for what the money was for and there’s conflicting information on the length of time he was missing and i don’t understand why she’s not been interviewed at length by the police The mother was in the police station yesterday for 8 hours ( the mother said that) to update her on the search 8 hours sounds more like for an official interview otherwise she would be getting updates from the police at her residence in Tenerife

None of searchers or police force or any volunteers can be paid. This is not the U.S.

I don't see anyone painting him as an 'angel'. It's the complete opposite. Does a previous conviction mean that he deserved to die?

​@@janedoh123wtf you on about!!!!

P off .

He’s also been caught on camera in the evening of the Monday in a town a couple of miles away 🤔 seems he had many chances to get help, charge his phone etc but hasn’t. His instagram has also been accessed 🤷🏼‍♀️

@@jesclifford88 According to who?

@@kezzokav5905 The family claimed his accounts have been "hacked." Very convenient.

Absolutely shocking, some of the comments are sickening. Whatever she does she’s damned

@@donnaharlow4608 Exactly. She's a distraught mother. Leave her alone.

😮😂

💯

I never go online, so nobody makes sick comments about me. Jay's mum should do the same - stay away from social media, especially when you're vulnerable.

💯 and the fact they smeered his reputation and did not include him in inquest was apauling. If I were the Spanish I'd want Lancashire police to stay away from this one too.

@SunflowerPower22 Yes, very appalling. Peter has only ever done the right thing and has on many occasion worked on cases for free. The Police have since apologised for the way he was treated on this case and Peter would be within his right to sue them but probably out of respect to Nicola and the family, he probably won't.

Peter was done dirty. Poor guy. Didn't deserve that.

Oh FFS shut up, the man was a shameless idiot 😂

He should've known to keep his mouth shut to the press for crying out loud. He caused more media speculation and theories than there ever was. Is it you?

Anyone can test it at home. If the battery is

All my phones have gone to 1% and stayed there for a surprisingly long time when browsing. Not long but longer than you would expect.

@@cemoihonay You must spend more money on on your phones than I do. ;) LOL

Sorry to hear that happened to your friend. After Michael Mosley I notice there has been recent reporting in the media about other missing tourist in the Greek islands. It must happen all the time but was never extensively reported until it was someone “news worthy”.

I wondered if this was a money scam that intentionally 'copied' the Michael Mosley death. It's possible that Jay is alive and part of the scam or hiding disappearance to get away from people he crossed. Yes, people can be that cruel (to do that to his family). Most likely he's just died and not been found but the above is a possibility.

Has their age been confirmed`? Cos it would make sense they are plenty older if they stayed in Masca. They were not there for a rave party.

while it seems unlikely that he’d leave his friends for two strangers, we was probably heavily intoxicated by alcohol and drugs. it’s not unheard of for people do it on party holidays, however niave it is.

@@ethers666 the plot thickens, I did notice he looked very happy about it all.

@sambobrooklyn316 Yes, I didn't see any worry about his friend at all.

I agree! But just don't say that Peter is "the devil!!" Lol! Love the name! 🤣🤣👏👏

There is only one previous video on this subject. The disappearance happened a week ago.

I think an editor would completely ruin the thing most of us come to Mr Hyatt’s channel for which is Statement Analysis spoken authentically & freely.

In the UK it's been reported that they went on the holiday together along with another friend.

@@twinmum2600 so who is the other friend since their has been no mention of this other friend in the mainstream media? The father is now blaming police & doesn’t believe the police’s theory that he walked off and got lost?

They met at Creamfields in the UK, last year or the year before, so they did already know each other.

I think that’s a wise decision. These days the internet can be a very dangerous place & I think any steps to protect yourself can only be a good thing. I use my middle name only & always have done. I think we can all see that there are some real crazies who lurk in comments & they can get nasty at the simplest disagreement. They clearly haven’t learned that disagreements are normal & actually very healthy when used in the right way.

I was only referring to analysts. You’ll notice that several are usually present for the live videos. They all use their real names and work in a team setting on law enforcement cases. It’s fine that you don’t.

@@PeterHyatt Oh, of course, as in a professional capacity. I've heard you mention it each livestram, and I misunderstood the meaning. Thank you for your response and clarification.

He did not find her body. A member of the public found her floating in the river and he RECOVERED her body. If police used the language target was negative it means they did search the spot he identified. Bodies move in water. Do you remember him saying weeks before she was found that he was sure she wasn't in that river? On live TV??

Tbh, I’m not surprised. She’s been battered online. She’s probs been told to keep a low profile.

​@@millop596what by her Bosses

Is this about you ?

I fully agree. An English person does not use the English language in the same way an American does- in fact the way language is used varies from county to county. We also are culturally different.

I think he perhaps has some expertise in this area. Statement analysis is kind of a clue.

a normal mother would tho

Yeah but others say he needed persuading

@@sarahwynn6486you’d only need persuading if you were going to be doing something other than a simple holiday, like maybe drug dealing.

@@jesclifford88 Not every human being is the same, sometimes people are not keen to go on holidays for various reasons. It's not a black and white conclusion.

Yes, to both.

@@PeterHyatt thanks for the reply. I think this is what most people won’t realise that everything people think about what she’s said won’t be going unnoticed by police . When she said she went home early ALONE surely the police have asked and where is home what time did you arrive home and checked cctv or with reception etc. it’s been 7 days surely by now if she was up to anything the police would have pulled her in and have they verified she was telling truth about going home early etc we just don’t know

@@PeterHyatt if I was a police officer I would be looking at her pattern of travel bank details looking in to how she affords all the travel she does getting her phone records etc etc they are more then likely doing the same. She might not be involved in him going missing but she’s definitely hiding something else about herself to not get in serious trouble over something totally unrelated

@@WarrickHuntshe peddles drugs according to the word on the streets 😅

​@@WarrickHuntI believe her phone has clues as to what's happened. As of her phoning 911 and not 112, that's sus AF also.

Heather, I don’t know if this is the issue, maybe I’m wrong. This post you made is in the “comments” section. When Peter is “live,” there is a section titled “live chat,” that’s where they’re working from and typing back and forth, not here in the comments section. You may have to goof around to find it. You should be able to toggle between “live chat” and “comments.” You should see two dots in the box-it’s hard to explain without being in the room with you. Maybe pull up a KZfaq on how to participate in a live chat on KZfaq? Anyway, stay in “live chat” during the live video as that’s where Peter is working from. Maybe I’m confused and don’t understand why you’re frustrated. These live sessions should be fun. I hope this helps🙂

Jay Slater, 18, of Fountains Way, ACCRINGTON - 18 month community order with 25 days rehabilitation activities and 150 hours unpaid work. Convicted of s18 wounding with the intent to cause grievous bodily harm and violent disorder in August 2023, when he was aged 18. He is now 19. Tom Hilton, who was 17 at the time of the attack, suffered a head injury so serious his skull was exposed, and wounds to his shoulders and legs in the attack close to the Old Paper Mill in Hermitage Street, Rishton, in August 2021. The Daily Record: Eight thugs who split boy's head open with machete dodge jail The teens were slapped with community service after attacking Tom Hilton, who was 17 at the time, with a machete, an axe and a golf club. By Rachel Smith Eve Beattie 19 JUN 2024 Please compare pictures of the convicted Jay Slater in the Lancashire Post article: Eight handed community and rehabilitation orders over attack 4th August 2023, with any other pictures of missing Jay. It is the same person. Tom Hilton, the victim, was jailed for 14 months, disqualified from driving for 25 months and must sit an extended re-test if he wants his licence back. He pled guilty to attempted burglary, theft of a motor vehicle and dangerous driving. Before conviction for these offences, he had 14 convictions for 28 offences. The court also heard that on committing these offences on February 12, Hilton was in breach of two community orders which had been imposed on him, one just three days earlier and one in November 2021 which was a two-year order. Recorder Timothy Hannam KC said: “You have an awful record for someone of your age. “You’ve had a great many chances to change your ways but these offences are so serious that only a custodial sentence is appropriate. “This was a prolonged period of bad driving being chased by police. The speeds were terrifyingly high in built up areas. You were lucky the streets were relatively empty." Source: Lancashire Telegraph - Rishton teen jailed for stealing car and taking police on 70mph chase 30th March 2023

Fucking bore off man the whole of KZfaq has heard about it we don’t need to keep hearing it that’s old news

3yrs later in another country ...at the same time he there on holiday reaching

Why are the media covering up his past when it could have something to do with it. He almost killed someone's son

@@scrubthesurface Imagine information like a hose pipe with water flowing through it. The media is a big foot pressing down on the pipe allowing only a certain amount of water to pass. They control the narrative and therefore control what people think/believe. 90% of people believe the main stream media without question. It is very powerful.

He's very likely a simpleton hedonist who regularly made appalling decisions prior to this final one.

He could have drank ten gallons of water from the tap in the house.( Best quality water on the whole island) He could also have returned to the house after finding out he had another hour and a half to wait. Why didn't he? Was he asked to leave the house? And Ofelia whom he asked for the bus time, actually owns the shop right by the bus stop, he could have gotten plenty to drink there, sit down in the shadow and just wait for the bus.

@@blu4085 - Yeah, but he didn’t because he was a young fool buzzing off his tits on gear. There’s no Grand Conspiracy, just another unremarkable death of a teenage hedonist. Good luck finding the carcass in such a vast space.

Alisa was in some kind of psychotic state. The whole Elisa Lam/Lam Elisa (tb thing going on in area, if I remember rightly) thing, though, is VERY weird! I think Pat Brown did a video on the case of Elisa.

I think she has had a difficult time with him, especially as a teen.

@@PeterHyatt Thank you.

​@@PeterHyattI know the feeling

Oh yes..there is another friend , indeed. Where is he/she? Is he/she worried about Jay and out looking for him?

It’s possible.

Maybe she made herself scarce when the 2 guys arrived and that's why she goes to such great pains to say she left because she was tired?

There's no nice way to say this, but they're all functionally illiterate. People who are unfamiliar with written language will adopt their impression of "proper" and it appears as this over-worded cod-formal because their familiarity with written language is fairly restricted to legalese in some form. Not necessarily criminal - think of contracts, leases etc. They don't employ written language (beyond the abomination which is text-speak) so their statements tend to follow the over-complicated form which we differentiate from ordinary written communication. It's the modern version of copying the posh people to try and hide the fact we're plebs, but to anyone already familiar it just stands out even more. And I feel like an arsehole saying it cos I think it's very easily explained by sheltered urban kid having no idea that tipping out into a volcanic scrub landscape at altitude is a whole other bunny from tipping out in their usual urban environment. He was ignorant of the dangers not only of the terrain but also his own reserves, how depleted they would be and how fast that can get you in trouble. I really don't mean it unkindly but I doubt he had any idea that altitude, exposure, dehydration and all the rest were even a thing. I hope the poor kid decided to try and shelter from what would have been blistering sun and wind-chill, say under an overhang or crevice and his BP floored. At least it would be quick.

Cuz he'd been raving fro 3 days straight. He was hardly coherent enough to problem solve or be proactive with his safety.

It would have been a fantastic idea, I know Ofelia, and she for sure would have helped.

​@@blu4085rather interesting especially with all that has come to light about said lady.

Wild theories such as her extensive travelling ? Hmmmmm