The Doctor, the Mortician, and the Murder
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2 жыл бұрынThe locals feared her wellness retreat was not what it seemed.
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**SELECTED SOURCES & ADDITIONAL READING**
Olsen, Gregg
Starvation Heights: A True Story of Murder and Malice in the Woods of the Pacific Northwest. Crown Publishing Group. New York, 1997.
"The Doctor Who Starved Her Patients to Death"
www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...
"Exquisite Corpses"
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@leemasters3592 2 жыл бұрын
Malnourishment affects the brain just like other organs. Its possible the reason Dora didn't try to escape immediately after Margaret arrived was because her ability to think clearly and make rational decisions was impaired by her starvation.
@karentucker2161 2 жыл бұрын
It really does affect you mentally too...coming from someone who was anorexic for a time. I am glad I am over that and better off mentally 😌
@catherinealekseyenko9317 2 жыл бұрын
definitely true. plus, this is the same dynamic as in any abusive relationship: the abuser puts in lots of work to break the will of the victim and convince them that they are helpless, stupid, incapable, have nowhere to go, etc. Dora was dependent, it is always difficult to break this kind of situation even when the person knows that they are definitely suffering and going downhill
@M.Campbell-Sherwood 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, that and dehydration will both do it. So she probably had it coming at her double time. My grandma used to get like that when she wouldn't drink enough water or other fluids.
@AirQuotes 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird because they seemed so savvy in their youth that they were taken advantage of this quite obvious scam artist
@M.Campbell-Sherwood 2 жыл бұрын
@@AirQuotes Anyone can be taken advantage of at least once in their life. Especially when they're in pain all the time (the one sister with the bad knees). You'd be surprised how desperate a person with chronic pain can become. They'd do anything to get rid of it, just to feel normal again. Not to mention, good con-artists are smart and always know how to logically and correctly answer and explain any question, in detail. Giving responses that not even some of the smartest people could detect were b.s. *shrugs* It's how they work. They're not just smart, they're manipulative and can talk their way around and out of anything.
@stardust3176 2 жыл бұрын
It’s such a tragedy that these women avoided male doctors as to avoid being taken advantage of, only to then be abused and be taken advantage of by a female “doctor”. Such a horrible person.
@zakazany1945 2 жыл бұрын
Humans can be evil, no matter their race, sexuality or gender.
@cam4636 2 жыл бұрын
@@zakazany1945 Stunning take. Did you come up with that yourself?
@zakazany1945 2 жыл бұрын
@@cam4636 No, I learned with ur mom
@CmfunkS197 2 жыл бұрын
You sure are sad and pathetic huh?!
@StanSwan 2 жыл бұрын
I am a male and have female doctors. Never got what the big deal is.
@BlitzedPort Жыл бұрын
"She wasn't REALLY a doctor but a legal loop hole allowed her to practice alternative medicine." Good to know some things never change /sar
@gwtpictgwtpict4214 9 ай бұрын
Alternative medicine -> Not actually medicine.
@dshe8637 9 ай бұрын
Chiropractors are allowed to practice medicine in US nowadays. Lots of KZfaq 'doctors' are actually chiropractors.
@gwtpictgwtpict4214 9 ай бұрын
@@dshe8637 Given the choice I'd take an osteopath over a chiropractor, for me osteopaths are more grounded in science, I've seen a bit to much "Woo" around chiropractors, that may be a difference between UK and US practice though.
@artsyscrub3226 9 ай бұрын
@@gwtpictgwtpict4214 What is an osetopath? Ive never heard that term
@NA-AN 8 ай бұрын
@@gwtpictgwtpict4214didn’t the inventor of chiropracty believe we had demons in our vertebrae or something?
@shortking-vp9vv Жыл бұрын
The love of a mother, biological or not, can move mountains. Margaret was awesome for what she managed.
@Spike-xv1ts 2 жыл бұрын
when the world needed her most SHE RETURNED
@jessicaaudate 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🏽
@sandieking9007 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! We hope you could get some rest.
@blueridgebunny8894 2 жыл бұрын
So happy to see her! And almost an hour long video? I feel spoiled lol 😂
@TheGiraffe101 2 жыл бұрын
i was wondering where she was since it had been a while and then she uploads almost an hour long video? we have been blessed🙏
@CassyBug 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGiraffe101 she's been super busy with Covid and her real job.
@Seldarius 2 жыл бұрын
While it was horrific how Claire died… she did manage to save her sister by calling for help. A last heroic act of a dying woman.
@allshookup1640 Жыл бұрын
The love and desire to protect each other that siblings have between each other is truly amazing! Claire was so brave and I hope she was able to gain a bit of peace in death knowing she saved her sister and that her sister made it out okay.
@stevemitz4740 Жыл бұрын
@@allshookup1640 But don't connect the fall of looking to sinful Man or Woman for salvation & guidance vs. looking to, "Our Creator" for wisdom & advise, as our founding fathers did, long ago, but no more! WE now look to Man & government for free stuff & salvation, just like the Williamson sisters did! With the same "Death is the wages of sin", results!
@infadelecharlton1090 Жыл бұрын
@@stevemitz4740 I just read many words and can’t understand. What are you saying?
@nearlynight Жыл бұрын
@@stevemitz4740 this is not the channel for religious propoganda- believe what you wish, pray how you wish, however it is completely innapropriate to push those beliefs onto someone who did not ask for it. the bible preaches that you should respect and show kindness to all, as well as that you shall not preach in front of man your greatness nor deeds. "Be careful not to do your `acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven." "So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men." brush up before you bring this here.
@sparklefairykitten Жыл бұрын
It could be a really good movie if they did it right
@NoOne-wn9ju Жыл бұрын
Apparently Dora's husband died the same year they were married, 1914. Their daughter Gertrude was born after his death, in 1915, but the girl died in 1918. It's so sad she experienced so much loss.
@bbe3034 Жыл бұрын
It’s comical that her last name was Hazzard.
@nyuloubunny Жыл бұрын
@@bbe3034No, Dora Williamson was the one who was starved, not Dr. Hazzard
@klausd.6285 4 ай бұрын
@@bbe3034 Clearly you didn't listen to the video at all. As someone already stated, Dora's last name was not Hazzard. Also, how is it funny if Dora, the VICTIM of the story last name was Hazzard? Somethings are not jokes. You really need to learn that. People dying and going through hard times isn't funny and it never will be. Grow up and I really suggest you delete your moronic comment. I really don't get how you can make that comment on the video and get it wrong.
@victoriadiesattheend.8478 Ай бұрын
I am not only amazed at Dora's ability to survive Hazzard, but to flee, and have the emotional and mental strength to contribute to and press on with the law eventually coming down on Hazzard...to trust ANYONE enough to marry, be physically strong enough to get pregnant and not only carry the pregnancy and SURVIVE CHILDBIRTH in this period. It seems she WAS able to retain or get back a good amount of her wealth, like her properties and money. I feel terrible that she lost her husband, then young daughter. But her SURVIVAL is incredible. She literally lived to be 70 yrs old!!!! Which is INCREDIBLE, considering what happened to her and the time period she lived through (WW1 and the influenza you know what of 1918, to name just two). I wonder if she regretted her ability to live through it all. I know I would have felt like that. But if you can live through such horror.....then you were meant to live. And I find that....oddly reassuring.
@dutch1087 8 ай бұрын
Among all the horror of this story, I was genuinely moved by the story of Butterworth's origin in the service of death. Dismantling one's own wagon, a keystone part of your own livelihood, to bury the bodies of a stranger's family properly... that's some biblical stuff.
@ReconditeKatybird 5 ай бұрын
But who reported that he did that? Could be he made it up himself...
@victoriadiesattheend.8478 Ай бұрын
I guarantee that slime made it up.
@maddiejoy6619 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Dora was later physically healthy enough to have a child (and survive child birth) gives me hope that she recovered from what she experienced at that crazy place
@changeintheair9648 2 жыл бұрын
Yes certainly. I was surprised due to starvation and damage on organs that she was not sterile.
@moonstruck8245 2 жыл бұрын
I hope she was able to spend the rest of her life happy and feeling safe and loved, though I'm sure nothing could make up for losing her sister. Hazzard should have been put to death a hundred times over for what she did to them and others.
@Iudicatio 2 жыл бұрын
@@moonstruck8245 I know how on earth did anyone let her keep practicing "medicine?" She needed to be isolated from the public at the very least.
@lisamac1986 2 жыл бұрын
@@Iudicatio money talks unfortunately
@TheDoomBlueShell 2 жыл бұрын
@@Iudicatio Worse part that I have an aunt that believed in this crap and starved my grandma, the ladies that worked for her called the family and we stopped her "cure for impurities" my luck is that the ladies thought my aunt was crazy and would give food to my grandma when she was away.
@luvondarox 2 жыл бұрын
I am ridiculously proud of Margaret for trying to help to the girls she helped raise, but dang do I feel horrid for her discovering what happened to the sisters.
@changeintheair9648 2 жыл бұрын
Margaret was a saint. I think she must have become mother to these children since biological mother had died. She traveled thousands of miles to get to them and try to help them. Then she flew in the face of Hazzard and fed Dora to strengthen her - then rescued Dora out of there. Got investigation and prosecution going. She was amazing. She must have loved them dearly.
@moonstruck8245 2 жыл бұрын
@@changeintheair9648 She was a mother to those girls. Not officially or biologically, but she clearly had a mother's love for them and wanted to do anything to protect them like a good mother should.
@brookelawrence6740 2 жыл бұрын
As a survivor of medical abuse, I greatly appreciate this video.
@elizabethwarman9028 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder us medical abuse is what happened to me? I was diagnosed as Bipolar. Took Bipolar meds for over 10 years. Finally, two weeks ago I Google Bipolar symptoms. Suddenly I realized I was never Bipolar. I texted my Psychiatrist, and told him I was refusing to take anymore Abilfy. Which made me feel awful. My Psychiatrist agreed with me. Frightening isn't it?
@iCat4Ever 2 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethwarman9028 sometimes symptoms change. And it’s often to be misdiagnosed but yeah it can be considered that
@kidaria1333 Жыл бұрын
@@elizabethwarman9028 you would be shocked how the medical system, industry and science works in realiy. Majority feels falsely safe these days, same like people in historical days. Truely good-hearted people who are really educated properly in the details and trying to analyse the patient in detail, properly thinking what could be wrong and how to help are VERY rare. Most follow mindless guidlines to make fast money. So long they do not do something completly reckless what can be proven nothing is gonna happening to them. It is not "conspiracy theory" it is proven that chemical-, pharma- and food-industry are married with each other for decades, interested in getting as much people ill as possible to make money from it. Influence for dacdes and since 2010 in full control of the leading universities and insituts in their favor,...etc. Of course you only starting searching about it if something happens to you or someone you know.
@brutus3631 Жыл бұрын
@@elizabethwarman9028 misdiagnoses happen, could be that you had bipolar like symptoms because of something, stress can cause similiar symptopms
@elizabethwarman9028 Жыл бұрын
@@brutus3631 , yes true. I originally went to this therapist to get detoxed from Opioids. Took three times. Anyway I was given a 175 question true and false test. Turns out I am seriously severely ADHD. Well, that diagnosis explained a lot. I now take 60mg of Strattera. This might be the explanation of the misdiagnosis of Bipolar.
@WinnieTheJew 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the fact that you have proper closed captions instead of auto generated ones I've always loved your Channel and because of your diligence of the closed captions I can still enjoy it since I've lost my hearing. Keep up the great work and fantastic content and entertainment!
@dinkster1729 Жыл бұрын
Yeah! I love captioning. I'm very hard of hearing.
@Y--gu2gp 2 жыл бұрын
No natter how many years it’s been, 2 things will never change. 1.Caitlin’s bangs 2. My love for her channel
@jessicaaudate 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏽
@junkmalme 2 жыл бұрын
And Caitlin's love of statement jewelry pieces
@chantallaflamme6454 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your avatar, fellow Exo-L ❤
@Black-Swan-007 2 жыл бұрын
"My bangs and I"
@buckybawllz6233 2 жыл бұрын
Her approach is so great all the dark humor.
@lc3920 2 жыл бұрын
“Gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss” really applies to “Dr.” Hazzard
@lisawebbert4967 2 жыл бұрын
Gaslighting should be illegal!
@Sydney-Casket-Base 2 жыл бұрын
omg i thought the same thing
@virgiliod.9436 2 жыл бұрын
Drug pusher too.
@Ali-mv3jc 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand what it means, would anyone be able to explain it please? 😊
@k.morningstar7983 2 жыл бұрын
"OH MY GOD" -- me, after listening to anything Hazzard said/did
@malisashutt6231 2 жыл бұрын
I find that Hazzard's death as a "victim" of her own "treatments" is fitting in a sense. That she got to experience a bit of the suffering her patients had to endure, if only for a brief time as she was already sick and dying at that point. I wonder what funeral home her husband used to take care of her. ER Butterworth &Sons perhaps?
@st4lkme Жыл бұрын
This story almost brought me to tears. I hate that two close-knit sisters who didn't know better were disgustingly taken advantage of in every way. I wish for their spirits the best.
@kab9706 7 ай бұрын
On top of all the disgusting, inhumane treatment of beating two people and starving them to death after manipulating them... the fact that Hazzard separated the sisters and didn't allow them to see each other when one was dying, is heartbreaking.
@mercurythey3752 2 жыл бұрын
honestly, Margaret is so badass in this story. it's tragic she could only save one of the sisters, but her actions are nothing short of heroic.
@Balrog-tf3bg 9 ай бұрын
The ultimate nanny
@archer1949 2 жыл бұрын
Hazzard was “Gatekeep, Gaslight, Girlboss: Edwardian Edition”.
@jenniferjoseph1560 2 жыл бұрын
Nailed it! That would make an excellent play!
@freeurmind5790 2 жыл бұрын
In the Midwest we'd call her a HoneyBoss.
@Emerald.She-Ra 2 жыл бұрын
Omg, imagine the mlm she'd run if alive today...😵😵😵
@mialynn2034 2 жыл бұрын
@@freeurmind5790 I’m from the Midwest and I can confirm that NOBODY says that 😂 nice attempt at quirkiness though 👍
@asteriusblack 2 жыл бұрын
@@Emerald.She-Ra she does its called goop
@ThatKodaGirl Жыл бұрын
I went to Olalla elementary school. the sanitarium had to be fenced and is still fenced off because of people breaking in. So happy to see someone talking about this.
@mefford67 2 жыл бұрын
*Apparently we Americans have NEVER lost our huge weakness for nutty, health influencers.* 😬
@jeanneratterman Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately true. The ‘never can be too skinny’ crowd. Or choices based on body shaming and desperation. Or fear of sickness and death, and so the chase for the magic pill or approach to be forever young and beautiful leads the way to blindly follow con artists who have no morals or ethics and more than willing to take very last cent and leave you dying, ‘which you brought on yourself.’ Script goes something like this: “I gave them what was sought and have no responsibility over some dumb rube’s choices. If not me, someone will else will get rich, so why not me.” Sigh. 😢
@josephschultz3301 Жыл бұрын
We inherited it from the English, who practiced a lot of the crazier stuff alongside the French, Italians, Austrians, and Germans during Europe's crazy Victorian era. Aristocrats were always obsessed with health and beauty (and the occult!), and would often go to blatantly insane extremes in order to pursue physical "perfection". Even though there was no system of titled nobility present in the United States, the wealthy social elite was more than happy to mimic what they saw in Europe. Tapeworms used for weight loss, straight-up starvation (as seen here), enemas for poison purging (also discussed), the consumption of "controlled amounts" of deadly materials like lead, hemlock, and foxglove, excessive sunlight exposure, extreme cold and hot sauna treatment, overexertion via marathon style exercise; the list goes on.
@ireneshankweiler-qb4ve Жыл бұрын
Idk it's so much an "American" thing but a human thing, there's a LOT of examples of crazy stuff like this (and much worse) all throughout human history
@dshe8637 9 ай бұрын
People in US don't have confidence in proper medicine because they can't afford it. They fool themselves that quack therapies are just as good because it's hard to face up to not being able to get real treatment. And in US, chiropractors are called doctors and allowed to practice medicine legally.
@camronbarth9376 3 ай бұрын
African witch doctors are so much better lol
@ilacjones 2 жыл бұрын
Hazzard's "treatments" also killed the local seafood restaurant Iver's founder's mother and he was also "treated" as a child but his father found out and rescued him from Hazzard. It was said that because of the starvation treatment he wanted to feed people, so he started Iver's.
@cadencel1582 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought some chowder today, you’re kidding!!!!
@kelseycoca 2 жыл бұрын
that's so interesting!
@gohawks3571 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I did not know that! I love Ivars!
@jacquelinestef 2 жыл бұрын
No way, what am interesting fact! Thanks for sharing (:
@miketalas7998 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbs Up for Iver's!!! :D It appears that thru people like Iver's God Glory shine thru the muck of dispair!!!
@juliesampaio1062 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how we get to see this content for free. The comedic timing, the editing, the research, the plants, the background, the soundtrack, the outfit, and nails, that ring, the queen’s crown of black bangs, it’s all brilliant. You never disappoint and always amaze us.
@minacapella8319 2 жыл бұрын
Sponsors, commercials, etc. Kinda like old broadcast television
@Timmering 2 жыл бұрын
@@drockjr Bruhhh. Patreon is a option. People like us who cannot afford to pay he Pateron applaud you for your generosity and supporting her to make more videos, but ya don’t have to talk down to us for doing so. Especially when someone is writing a comment saying how much she appreciates her content. Like bruh.
@Fretless99 2 жыл бұрын
Yes ma'am, I agree. Have long been Caitlin's fan. Have to say, though, I am having great difficulty with this story, a horror story
@kaorikarma 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish I could donate to her patreon, because I love this channel so much and would,like to support it, but I have no source of income, so I'm stuck. I feel like a lot of people are stuck wanting to support the channels and people they love but they can't because of financial reasons. I think it would be nice if channels had a support page, monitored by KZfaq for obvious reasons, so we could tell our content creators how much we love them. It would be such a great option for those wanting to show their appreciation without feeling like the only way they can love the channel as much as everyone else is to pay.
@bumblebee560 2 жыл бұрын
Right? I'm always so happy when we get a new video from her. I love the channel. And I'm so very disappointed she was JUST in my city and I didn't know! Like dammit, I wanna buy her a drink or treat her at the bakery I work at or something. She seems like she'd be so fun to meet.
@funkygerbil2530 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I worked on the remodel of the Butterworth Mortuary up on Madison several years ago, they turned it into a lawyers office. I got a chuckle out of explaining to a couple ladies that worked there why the "lunch room" had tile going half way up the wall and a drain in the floor. Very cool old building though.
@MistakenlyAwesome 2 жыл бұрын
I love you. I've gone though life with an early diagnosis of cancer. I was 11.. but everything I watch from you.. makes me happy... I wasn't afraid to die back then and because of you, I'm not afraid to die now. Thank you for all your books and everything.
@Ranger881 Жыл бұрын
I hope you're doing well now, friend.
@naturalcambion3747 2 жыл бұрын
This just went from bad to worse so quickly. It was like they took a tour of a Red Flag factory and stopped every step of the way. Yiiiiissssshhhhh.
@Finkeldinken 2 жыл бұрын
When you visit a flag factory and all the flags are red... I mean...I've been to that factory, but at least it was a temporary exhibition. :D
@juliejanesmith57 2 жыл бұрын
But man- that governess is incredible. Imagine having someone (other than maybe parents) who would see your confused/coded letter and assume you are in trouble and finagle their way onto the next BOAT from the other side of the planet just to come help you.
@livingdeadgirl5691 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliejanesmith57 The guverness: She may be your "mother" girls, but she ain't your mommy... Ill walk myself out...
@lf546 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot read "flag factory" without Simone's (RPDR S13) accent anymore lol
@naturalcambion3747 2 жыл бұрын
@@lf546 what they needed was Simone to go over there and shut that flag factory down! 😂🤣🚩🏭
@LoodLacey 2 жыл бұрын
Me sitting here in my office like, “holy shit, I’m right across the street from evil doctor-lady office?!”
@rebeccawest8973 2 жыл бұрын
Wait really? Wow!
@melissamenchaca9121 2 жыл бұрын
COOL!
@elizabethbarringer2791 2 жыл бұрын
That must have given you the creeps not doubt.
@LoodLacey 2 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethbarringer2791 quite the contrary!
@LoodLacey 2 жыл бұрын
@b phillip more than likely I was in the office…. I would have fangirled if I saw her ;p
@TheMouthofBill 8 ай бұрын
I haven’t felt this disturbered and disgusted at a case in a long time. The amount of cruelty and sadism is disheartening. I feel awful for all of her victims, especially dorothea. The account of claire’s final moments where beyond heartbreaking. May they rest in peace.
@Damoinion 2 жыл бұрын
On a lighter note, I found the brief history of the transition to morticians via cabinetmakers very interesting, as my grandfather was in a "protected occupation" during WWII as the only cabinet maker and mortician in his area. (Edit: Not in the US)
@typacsk Жыл бұрын
That makes me think of a particular scene from "Foyle's War"
@jadeauburn9220 2 жыл бұрын
Starvation makes the brain unable to function normally, it must've been easy to manipulate the patients after weeks and weeks of starvation. What a truly horrifying story. Thank you for making such a graceful documentary of such a disgraceful topic. It was truly outstanding.
@sarahrupert5320 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! The brain becomes malnourished too, and therefore confused, changes in behavior, etc…making it easy for “Dr.” Hazzard to convince others that the patient had become insane or incompetent. Truly awful!!
@TenApplesforTime 2 жыл бұрын
Starvation and sleep deprivation are extremely common methods of brainwashing, you see it a lot when you do cult research
@virgiliod.9436 2 жыл бұрын
They were probably being drugged too with those day-long enemas. When there is smoke there is fire. Even from the start the abuse was so obvious and they are very much capable of resistance then. I think the corruption is not just confined to the doctor as evidence by the very weak punishment.
@brokenjusticetruecrime3657 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@k.morningstar7983 2 жыл бұрын
this feels like the real version of that scene in *Happy Gilmore* where Ben Stiller is threatening the old people as soon as their children leave. "you will go to sleep *or i will put you to sleep* " has never felt so real
@broceollomon 2 жыл бұрын
I read a book called Starvation Heights about this and man, is it terrifying. Edit: Oh, you hung out with the author.
@DianaHernandez-ce5ix 2 жыл бұрын
Idk why this is hilarious lol 😂
@Adrian_1114 2 жыл бұрын
Yee
@castielabloodwings6301 2 жыл бұрын
Why is this so funny? Jfkdk
@wandatidwell3792 2 жыл бұрын
I read this book. I could see and feel this in my mind for weeks after reading it.
@ashoalcraft4404 Жыл бұрын
I had hyperemesis gravidarum when I was pregnant and was unable to keep down anything for months. I was kept hydrated with IV fluids with vitamins and sugar so I stayed alive, but the experience was wild. Starvation really messes with you. I still have issues from the brain damage it caused. I feel sick for these poor women and all the other victims.
@xtiphuny89 Жыл бұрын
Huh, i too suffer from that condition, 4 months of it during each of my 3 pregnancies. I hadn’t considered that it could be why my memory sucks now. Thanks for sharing! I didn’t have iv help, i used a medication and ate chimichangas once a day for at least 2 of the 4 months… that’s all my stomach would keep down. Very strange thing to live through.
@sleeplessstudios7626 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm having my uterus removed in a few months. I can't even fathom the thought of suffering even more through an already miserable process of losing your body to a clump of cells.
@ashoalcraft4404 Жыл бұрын
@@sleeplessstudios7626 Right? You can get a tax credit for a few years afterward, but my medical bills were also in excess of a quarter of a million. I enjoy my hellspawn and they turned out cute and whatnot, but only child for sure. I was pro choice before but when your cell clump tries to murder you, it drives it home in a big way. I hope your uterine yeeting goes well!
@sn98886 Жыл бұрын
Don't have children. Simple. No need for anyone to reproduce in this shitty society.
@andrewjennings7306 11 ай бұрын
@@sleeplessstudios7626bruh referring to a fetus as a clump of cells and removing your ability to create life is so depressing
@inrspc777 Жыл бұрын
Oh gods, the Buena Vista Apartments. That's just up the street from my home. The building is spooky AF with bad vibes throughout . No wonder. Thank you for presenting a truly terrifying Seattle story. I've lived in this city for 30 years, and didn't know of it.
@sean..L 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest, I almost cried hearing about Hazard asking Dora if she wanted to pitch herself into the ravine and it “sounding more like a command than a concern”.
@Orokorra-Flantxo 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@clogs4956 2 жыл бұрын
That was the moment I realised that Hazzard was, in fact, a Narcissistic sadist who enjoyed total power over her 'patients'; it made my blood run cold.
@shariwelch8760 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a true crime junkie and I've heard this story before, but I never heard of that encounter between them. It's really beyond the pale. And it was so brave of Dora to stand up to her in that moment, when they were alone, after all that had happened.
@gloveofants 2 жыл бұрын
She wanted her to hurry up and die so she could have her money. She was a sick woman
@benjie128 2 жыл бұрын
@@shariwelch8760 Dora would've been weak enough, it wouldn't have surprised me if Dr. Hazard would've thrown her off and claimed she jumped. But there is a claim of deniability if all you did was tell them to not eat vs. actively harming them.
@aleksandrakrolak7783 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Caitlin's saying "choo choo folks, it's downhill from here" should be a soundtrack of my life XD
@natashafitzakerley2977 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The perfect notification sound for my phone.
@sortofsollo 2 жыл бұрын
i’m watching this now that i’m far into my own eating disorder recovery. thank you for the warning, caitlin, i don’t know how to express how much it helps us folks in recovery. love this story!!
@ChrisL803i 9 ай бұрын
Congrats on your recovery, I know its not an easy thing to do. Hope it's still going good for you 😊
@avamorgan7860 7 ай бұрын
i’m so proud of you!!!
@clairebodger1813 5 ай бұрын
I’m so proud of you! I’ve recovered too and I couldn’t be happier.❤
@clairefortier9738 Жыл бұрын
I read Starvation Heights & can’t recommend it enough! The story always stuck with me. It’s so insidious & evil. Im surprised it’s not more well known.
@joann2118 Жыл бұрын
I read it years ago and it's still in my book shelf. It's a haunting and unforgettable book. The video presentation was excellent .
@savagegardenrox 2 жыл бұрын
I’m happily surprised to hear Dora was able to bear a child after her ordeal, and I genuinely hope she had a happy life. As happy as she could after what she went through.
@donnalynn2 2 жыл бұрын
I find it so sad that her sister didn't survive. It sounded as though they were best friends and to have to go on the rest of her life without her best friend knowing what they both went through must have been awful.
@frickfrack7075 2 жыл бұрын
Why? Being Emaciated wouldn't affect fertility, and neither would being starved. Once she returned to a healthy state, I see no reason why she would have any issues getting pregnant and continuing pregnancy through to birth.
@linny516 2 жыл бұрын
@@frickfrack7075 it can. You can permanently lose your period and even if you get it back it can lower your chance of getting pregnant.
@audreymuzingo933 2 жыл бұрын
What's crazy about that to me is, by the time Claire died I was picturing them elderly or at least way too old for childbearing, like their bodies and minds were so diminished by the torture, and it went on for soooo long, with so many phases, I lost the fact that they were still young women.
@esmeraldagreengate4354 2 жыл бұрын
@@frickfrack7075 it's well documented that malnutrition and starvation can effect menstruation. If you don't ovulate you won't get pregnant 🤷♀️
@dianecheney4141 2 жыл бұрын
It’s abuse, they were abused women. They had the same mentality as any abused person. Afraid to make the move away, in case the escape failed
@dlr_rosa254 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Dr. Hazzard sounded intimidating, controlling, and manipulative. They must've been so scared to leave...
@Snezzleify 2 жыл бұрын
Totally gaslighted… agree with ya there!
@soxpeewee 2 жыл бұрын
They were probably too physically weak and definitely manipulated
@soxpeewee 2 жыл бұрын
@@dlr_rosa254 I think besides the money, the "Dr" was sadistic
@cjboyo 7 ай бұрын
I’ve only seen someone who weighed close to 50lbs ONCE and she was an extremely petite elderly woman who had become emaciated during late stage dementia. I could literally reposition her in her chair by picking her up. She was that light.
@jeanneratterman Жыл бұрын
So many say Caitlin needs to have her own show on Netflix, but isn’t this her own show on KZfaq? It would be fun and wonderful if she actually got paid equitably for her invaluable service though. You rock, Caitlin! Your channel is my hands down FAVORITE channel to run to every day!
@avamorgan7860 7 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY. she does NOT need to work with any private streaming company!
@camronbarth9376 3 ай бұрын
Exactly! We love her videos on Facebook!
@clarahelena6910 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a recovering anorexic and I’m sitting here watching this eating sweets and honestly; 2 year ago it could never have happened😍🥳 Thank god I put on 27kgs from pregnancy otherwise I would never had known that actually having some fat on my body is okay🥰
@frahn1702 2 жыл бұрын
Well done! 👏👏👏
@tundrawomansays5067 2 жыл бұрын
Ms. Helena, it appears your pregnancy made you a whole lot healthier! Best wishes to you and your Little One.
@kaerstyx 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy for you!! ccongrats!!
@mycatisabastard2361 2 жыл бұрын
It's wonderful to hear you are doing amazing. 🙂
@lindseyshupee 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad!!
@mariamatedei 2 жыл бұрын
This story has EVERYTHING, crimes, con-women, medical malpractice, the birth of a mortician, the American dream, detectives, a happy ending (?), the power of love taking down evil, and an amazing soundtrack, I just really love that organ music... hehe organ...
@colinkeane7539 2 жыл бұрын
Dan Cortez
@loretta_3843 2 жыл бұрын
Coming soon to a cinema near you, MALPRACTICE! ...😕
@bigchevy350boy 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! 💚
@xanghari 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Stefon!
@Usikkert111 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the organ music!
@venust.4119 Жыл бұрын
That insane lady looked like she was a sweet caring granny...This story deserves a movie. I can only handle one video a day from this channel. Great work reserching everything.
@dovestone_ 2 ай бұрын
100% deserves a film
@sarahyoung4166 Жыл бұрын
I have a thyroid condition and had nasty brain tumor surgery, I had gained a lot of weight. I remembered what I looked like in high school but I’m 75. I finally lost 150 pounds, but I still see a fat person. If you have body dysmorphic disorder, logic not change your mind. This video might just do it for you. Blessings
@stevemitz4740 Жыл бұрын
That's why the sickness industry pharma pimps will NEVER tell you to supplement with nacient iodine!
@hoorayitsjackie6166 Жыл бұрын
I lost 171 lbs and same. Body Dysmorphia has ruined my life.
@fart63 Жыл бұрын
To me body dysmorphia is the most ignored and sometimes actually encouraged mental illness. The fact that cosmetic surgery exists is deeply unsettling to me
@Hippidippimahm Жыл бұрын
@@fart63 cosmetic surgery is used for burn victims and people who need reconstructive surgery because of domestic violence, car accidents, animal attacks, etc.
@Mehki227 Жыл бұрын
I have the opposite. I think I'm thinner than I am. Everytime I look in the mirror, I'm shocked. I once went to one of those commercial diet places and the counselor picked up on that. I used to be skinny (naturally) and really liked to be skinny. Never developed an eating disorder. Liked food too much. But that skinny me is still in there somewhere. I'd like to lose more (lost about 30 during COVID), like 20lbs, in which I'd still be overweight. But at my age (70) being too thin looks awful, so no thanks with that... But inside I'll always be thinner than whatever the scale says.
@cafedeflore 2 жыл бұрын
Claire died thinking "Dr" Hazzard was trying to help her. She couldn't even say goodbye to her sister Dora who was in the same room as her. That upsets me so much. I have a sister I am very close with and I can't even imagine her suffering like that. I don't think Dora, Claire, or any of the other victims got justice. 2 years in a work camp isn't justice.
@Bebe-wm1ot 2 жыл бұрын
esp considering Hazzard got out and went back to business as usual and was seemingly even more successful than before :/ I’m close with my sister too, so i can’t imagine Dora ever really recovering from losing her sister so brutally and how disrespectful Hazzard was to Claire in life and death :(
@onelessthing 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine, she literally mercilessly beat/pummeled poor Claire, who was helpless at the time, unconscious right before her death.
@rneustel388 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you-in 2014, I lost my only sibling, my little sister at age 44 from pancreatic cancer.
@fishlady7930 2 жыл бұрын
I am not close to my sister but even I would be pissed and upset if someone told me I could not see my dying sister while she was literally dying in front of me. My family for generations has always had a promise of never dying alone. Its always seen as different and can be very upsetting but the mind set is comfort and love with death knowing one is never alone.
@evinchester7820 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Texas. In today's Texas, that doctor would not be held accountable due to tort reform. And if you think I am off, a few years ago a surgeon intentionally maimed five of his patients. Nothing could be done against him because it was a "Civil Matter" by law enforment. And due to tort reform, you can sue a physician/surgeon but the max you can only get if $500,00.00 And from that your attorney must take his fees and the court costs. And it takes about $120,000.00 to start a medical malpractice case. Oh. Then your insurance company can come back and take what they spent on you as well. So, the victim is literally left with very little or actually nothing. We the surgeon decided to step up his game since nothing had been done to him. So he started to KILL vis-a-vis MURDER his patients. And again, "it's a civil matter..." And HE KILLED / MURDERED FIVE OF HIS PATIENTS. Well finally, an attorney finally got someone to listen to him. They brought the surgeon to trial and he was found guilty of MURDERING FIVE OF HIS PATIENTS. However, before he was lead away, he told the jury, "I'm sorry..." And that, ladies and gentlemen, is today's TEXAS. So into days Texas, she'd just walk.
@jackielinde7568 2 жыл бұрын
Caitlyn: "I guess it's going to be just me for the next 45 minutes." Me: "I'm not complaining."
@katten39 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't complain if it was just you Jack, I love you and I'm happy you're alive
@harrietharlow9929 2 жыл бұрын
Me, neither. I love how she tells a story.
@mh2120 2 жыл бұрын
@@katten39 Hello, brother. I too share your sentiments for our fellow deathlings.
@manifestedbeauty 5 ай бұрын
This story is so sad.. god i can't imagine losing my sister this way. 💔 RIP Claire.
@l.j.1417 Жыл бұрын
Oh this is so scary and heartbreaking. I can't imagine a better person to present this story though. Thank you for all the research! This made me cry.
@hermionehaunted5281 2 жыл бұрын
As an RN I’m absolutely horrified by this quack “osteopath”, and saddened that there are still “doctors” that prey in a similar fashion on people to this day.
@gohawks3571 2 жыл бұрын
May I stand by your side and add my own "Uhhhhhhhggg". And also thank you and yours for all your hard work. Hugs for all you've been through❤
@scarletsuzuki1390 2 жыл бұрын
We see it daily with the world the way it is.
@swilson5320 2 жыл бұрын
My mom and sibling are medical professionals and it's amazing that even with that resource that people in my extended family will go to these expensive non medical "doctors" as if it's a good idea
@realmccoy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, especially the ones who believe that a universal genetic engineering experiment, especially among children, will somehow prove to be heroic 🙄
@Skarry 2 жыл бұрын
Mother Theresa wasn't quite this bad.
@constantly_nerfed 2 жыл бұрын
It's awful that the trial didn't end up in any justice and actually attracted more "patients" to her
@crazyScottishferretlady 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose what it ultimately came down to in the trial was that everyone was there through their own choice, they were never held hostage (ok she demanded money but she never physically stopped them leaving) and anyone could have walked away at any point. They all took part willingly and fully knowing what was going to happen during their "treatment". But yes. Scary that after all that it only attracted more people to her. People are strange.
@Serjo777 2 жыл бұрын
@@crazyScottishferretlady 36:13
@FluffyDragonDrawing 2 жыл бұрын
@@crazyScottishferretlady With all due respect, if she wasn't stopping them from leaving, why did they wait to take Dora out? It wasn't that she came after them afterwards demanding money, they couldn't take Dora out of that place _untill_ they paid her. If that's not physically stopping someone from leaving than what is?
@RayNH65 2 жыл бұрын
2 years in prison seems ridiculous. She deserved a life sentence at the very least!
@charlesbrentner4611 2 жыл бұрын
@@RayNH65 I think part of it was that it was near the start of the last century with so many new advances coming out. Airplane's, automobiles, telephones, x rays, etc. so that a person could almost be convinced that just about anything was possible. I'd like to think that people are less gullible now days, but the last few yrs have shown that not to quite be the case.
@ruthymorales7208 Жыл бұрын
That she can smile in her mug shot is in a way evident of her character! She definitely didn't care and was a greedy and horrible human being. Hazzard was the definition of a pyscho! I'm glad that karma got her in the end. Its a shame that she was taken seriously and lives were placed in her hands to do with what she wanted!! Very interesting and informative story.
@jeryoneal1530 11 ай бұрын
Gregg Olson is so great :) He's local to me and I have been fortunate to hear him speak many times. My book club also went out to the site a few years ago. I learned so much more watching your video!
@ColorwaveCraftsCo 2 жыл бұрын
The stories of serial killers masquerading as “doctors “ are extra chilling but also compelling. This video was well worth the wait!
@Davey-Boyd 2 жыл бұрын
It's possibly even worse when real doctors become serial killers.
@themurdernerd 2 жыл бұрын
If you're interested, I did one on my local serial killer "doctor" Norman Baker (plus kitschy death tourism 😀). [I hope it's not rude for me to post this!]
@chelseyaustin6015 2 жыл бұрын
Listen to "paging Dr. Barnes" on spotify. its a podcast about a man that spent decades posing as various doctors
@themurdernerd 2 жыл бұрын
@@chelseyaustin6015 Thanks! I will check that out!
@Ohnoitsruthio 2 жыл бұрын
@@themurdernerd in the uk we had Harold Shipman. What a terrifying man!
@TheExvangelicalCat 2 жыл бұрын
Caitlin: Unseasoned tomato's broth Me: *horrified Dorito chewing noises*
@tararivera5411 2 жыл бұрын
Same but cheez-it’s
@kimwalsh 2 жыл бұрын
That's good 😀✌
@amskazetoame 2 жыл бұрын
Same but salt and vinegar Pringle’s lol
@platypus4849 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@NoThankUBeQuiet 2 жыл бұрын
Me: Oh so a juice detox
@briannalitz2802 2 жыл бұрын
"lady doctor" Despite how morbid this was I couldn't stop laughing at that. So sad only God knows how many victims lost their life over that fraud. Thank you so much for sharing this with us.
@mfsperring Жыл бұрын
I've read starvation heights 3 times because it took me that many times to get my head around it. To be fair I was pretty sick during one of those. You did such a good job with this that I still learned something. I also love seeing the locations and hearing the author. Cheers.
@stevemitz4740 Жыл бұрын
Can you "get your head around" Nothing has changed! Quack/ corrupt sickness industry kills over 70,000 annually that over 2000 each & every day! [Fact!] look up the book, Death by Medicine, by Dr. Null! and don't be the sucker!
@mfsperring Жыл бұрын
@@stevemitz4740 I actually meant getting my head around all the names and the timelines. No need to be calling me a sucker you dick.
@Monica-db6ti 2 жыл бұрын
I read a book a while back where the ghost of Dr. Hazard was starving people to death. That was bad, but realizing that she was a real person who was allowed to keep doing it even after she got out of prison is so much worse. That is a horrible way to die.
@DudleyDawg 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the plot of a horror movie just waiting to be made.
@user-jn1wm3tb8v 2 жыл бұрын
@@DudleyDawg I mean it was probably a horror book so
@slcRN1971 2 жыл бұрын
This is beyond ridiculous, that fraud murdered many and yet legal authorities seemed to turn a blind eye towards Hazard’s disgusting clinic!! How many might have been saved, especially after her conviction for manslaughter (first degree murder charges/conviction is certainly indicated here). It seems that Hazard had absolutely not a moral bone in her body........ plus maybe a sadistic streak a mile wide!!
@missk8tie 2 жыл бұрын
Was that one in Kat Richardson's Greywalker series?
@beebs4283 2 жыл бұрын
she was definitely a wraith even before she died
@mrslukeskywalker 2 жыл бұрын
My stomach dropped into my shoes when Hazzard tried to manipulate her into jumping into the ravine. Just the absolute manipulation, unmasked. Dora is so strong for standing up to her.
@kbc163 Жыл бұрын
What a harrowing story. 😳 And +1 for Diana Rigg reference! She was an amazing actress, but could she embalm a corpse? No. No, I don't think so. You do you, hunny! 😍
@polaide8036 9 ай бұрын
This is one of the most disturbing cases I have ever heard of. It's one thing to kill someone, but systematically starve people to death, watching them wither away while defrauding them is just horrendous.
@tea_time_t 2 жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of true crime stuff, but this was uniquely hard to watch/listen to. I can't imagine the mindset of someone who would starve a person to death and then apparently gloat about her death to her family. This is absolutely harrowing.
@SwirlyPinwheel 2 жыл бұрын
Same feelings here. The systematic abuse described was an incredibly difficult listen.
@sarahb5464 2 жыл бұрын
Please watch the Netflix "(un)Well" fasting episode -- I happened to watch that with a friend last night and the leader of the fasting center in costa rica was eerily similar to this woman. Horrified that I just happened to see these back to back, and that this doesn't seem consigned to history
@poisonedkilljoy9304 2 жыл бұрын
honestly…yeah - there’s an episode of Deadly Women that includes “Dr” Linda Hazzard but this is just…a lot more to process
@ClaLu Жыл бұрын
You... can't imagine the mindset? Really? With the amount of sociopaths in history and well the world? I mean ok, no need to image at all...Too many real examples #StrongSelfesteem #ProtectionAgainstSociopaths #ProtecctionAgainstPsychopaths
@timothyduffy7877 Жыл бұрын
Well, we had a certain President back in 2016-2020 that did that on a mass level to the middle class and poor children. So, no, nothing has changed about that and it's still fucking pathetic. And, like the doctor he'll get a slap on the hand and get away with it, too.
@TheKa89 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who lives near Olalla, thanks for giving this place and the amount of suffering a fair view. Most of the time when anyone mentions Hazzard, people easily go down the ghost/haunting route and it tends to divorce the actual crimes committed from reality.
@1zipperheaded1 2 жыл бұрын
Same! Whenever I drive down Banner, I think of the suffering and murder of all those people, and I get sick to my stomach. But all that usually gets talked about is "OOOOoooooooOOOh GhOsTeS! I've seen one, no really!" It seems disrespectful. But not Caitlin!
@brendapannell3310 Жыл бұрын
That's actually how I first heard about it, even with growing up not far away. There is so much local history I would still like to learn.
@SitaraAleu Жыл бұрын
My father lives out near Port Orchard and he regularly visits the cemetery for silent thoughtfulness
@archers.arrows Жыл бұрын
I've rewatched this so many times since I read Starvation Heights. Seeing Greg speak made my reread even better - he's so charismatic! Olalla is on my must-visit list.
@interestinglyenough7601 Жыл бұрын
The way I screamed at “at least she was feeding someone”. Caitlin (sp?) is brilliant in every way. This was wonderfully researched and presented.
@LilacGeese 2 жыл бұрын
I'm usually fascinated by the idea of dark tourism but when Greg was talking about the building being torn down soon I legitimately felt relieved.
@becauseimafan 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute _same_
@Snezzleify 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw it, I wanted to put a wrecking ball through it… And that’s just to cleanse the negative energy!
@censusgary 2 жыл бұрын
The building’s obviously falling down. With enough money, it could be restored (rebuilt, really, at this point), but why do that?
@andreahernaiz7776 2 жыл бұрын
The idea of Hazzard coming in and giving her that “treatment”, mistreating her under the guise of care up until the last moment of her life gave me chills.
@linziRyan1965 2 жыл бұрын
I wept. I broke down and cried.
@lisam8044 2 жыл бұрын
I cried too, and to think this is only one story of the suffering those patients went through
@via45 2 жыл бұрын
Really it's so sad at the beginning how so many people saw the state of her patience yet had no concern 😭
@rogerthompson5250 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Port Orchard, WA. This story is part of our local lore. There is a great amount of history in Kitsap County. Your coverage of this story was entertaining and informative.
@mohamedb737 2 жыл бұрын
How can one person be this cruel, loudly monologuing over your victim's last words is pure evil. I didn't think people this messed up existed.
@florencepierce1864 2 жыл бұрын
She stole Dora’s last moments with her poor, immensely suffering sister. Guess “doc” Hazard wanted to make sure they didn’t talk to one another & Dora didn’t get her sister out. Love how Dora basically gave the Not a Doctor the verbal middle finger when she tried to talk her into suicide by chucking herself off that cliff. What evil, indeed! I also like the comment in the trial when Hazard was asked where she studied: Don’t bother, they no longer exist. Why, did you prove fatal to them as well? Burn! (Actually, hope she IS burning).
@Rat_Queen86 2 жыл бұрын
You will be amazed at the people that exist in this world. Depraved beyond belief
@izzyjones7108 2 жыл бұрын
oh they do. cynically jaded beyond redemption here..I have unfortunately experienced the range of how awful humans can and do behave...I used to think that such things were Rare, and while the extreme of this hazardous Hazard (I couldnt resist the cringe) is not normal..humans are (Imho) the only species that willfully and willingly with Intent harm their own kind..for all sorts of ridiculous reasons..petty and trivial
@kyrab7914 2 жыл бұрын
Can't have a deathbed confession about the will nonsense, can we? Don't forget, she didn't just monologue, she punched Claire until she fell unconscious and never woke again.
@voidbreather7405 2 жыл бұрын
@@florencepierce1864 Don't forget about dolphins.
@talithacrow7530 2 жыл бұрын
I love the fact she gives us a trigger warning for possible ED triggers and is like "you know about the corpses"
@HattieMcDanielonaMoon 2 жыл бұрын
I mean...
@BenjaminBox 2 жыл бұрын
@@HattieMcDanielonaMoon what?
@graciethebelle 2 жыл бұрын
We all came here for the corpses, and talk of death. We specifically signed up for that lol
@talithacrow7530 2 жыл бұрын
@@graciethebelle I just thought it was funny the way she phrased it
@graciethebelle 2 жыл бұрын
@@talithacrow7530 oh I know, it was a joke. It's hard to convey comedy through text sometimes. Apologies
@deftones158 2 жыл бұрын
i remember wanting to be a mortician because of you when i was 13. it's only been 2 years but you have greatly influenced the career i want to pursue. thank you so much !
@Ristiluu Жыл бұрын
I just LOVE this video! I've rewatched this four times now and I'm just so amazed by your work telling these stories
@deniseboldea1624 2 жыл бұрын
There's an old saying that if you lie long enough, you'll start believing it. I think she spent so much time in her guise that she believed in the treatment over time. In the end, she fell victim to her own con, which is one of the best examples of poetic justice I've ever heard of.
@criminallyautistic8372 2 жыл бұрын
Explains Marshall Applewhite in the Heaven's Gate Cult.
@jeanneratterman Жыл бұрын
It renews my hope that karma visits some politicians sooner than later. Lying cons con themselves eventually!
@netajones2098 2 жыл бұрын
"You say potato I say potato, you say vacation, I say starvation, potato...potato...vacation...starvation, let's call the whole thing.....MURDER!" OMG Caitlin, no one can make me lol like you can. Loved this, hope you do lots more like it.
@davidgaugamela9801 2 жыл бұрын
🎶 Potato…pahtahto…vacation…stahvation… 🎵
@Kari.F. 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a sucker for her sense of humor, too. She has this quirky, whimsical storytelling style that's just captivating.
@AirQuotes 2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently eating potatoes
@M.Campbell-Sherwood 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@frostingogmail3883 2 жыл бұрын
Neta Jones, I'm lMAO! I'd buy a ticket to that musical!
@beeztrapp1612 Жыл бұрын
This story fascinates me, and this is the most indepth and knowledgeable telling I have seen. I've watched it numerous times, and probably will again. Thanks for all you do, Caitlin and team.
@magnifeck4669 2 жыл бұрын
This channel just popped up in my feed (I DONT WHY, REALLY!) and I love it. Your edits are great and you have natural talent for storytelling. SUBBED!
@WhispersFromTheDark 2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Dora and Claire, what you endured was unimaginable. And to 'Doctor' Hazard....you stay down there and keep on burning, you're not done yet.
@gracekelley2907 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@florencepierce1864 2 жыл бұрын
Ssssssssssss ... That's the sound of "Lady NOT a Doctor" burning, btw!
@HunterDriguez 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the universe works the way you think it does. Unfortunately, she is dead and that’s it. No cosmic justice.
@florencepierce1864 2 жыл бұрын
@@HunterDriguez Come on! Don't be a big, ol' Cosmic Killjoy! Some of us take great pleasure in our vicious fantasies! And btw, you might be wrong about "physical death being final" - not in relation to the ultimate fantasy (all religions), but the "Simulation Hypothesis". Lots of Scientists, Philosophers & others (including Elon Musk) believe we're more likely to be in a Simulation than not!
@FluffyDragonDrawing 2 жыл бұрын
@@HunterDriguez It doesn't hurt you to let people make themselves feel better about cruel people getting what they deserved
@LordLemmysLabs 2 жыл бұрын
Hazard sounds like a cult leader, to be honest. Her methods absolutely line up with many cult brainwashing techniques, and the fact that she believed in her own "treatments" in the end also adds to the idea. There may not have been a spiritual or religious aspect, but still, almost everything else sounds suspiciously cultish
@Mikathedog100 2 жыл бұрын
having recently read the book, it seemed to me that she essentially sacrificed certain people for (what she believed to be) the greater good. Apparently many people were very, very happy with what she did. For them it worked. However, she needed money to build her perfect sanitarium, and killing off some lonely wealthy people here and there, provided that.
@NekoAllenLover 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to say she believed in her treatments when the purpose of the "treatments" was for the person to die and leave her everything. Kind of not what doctors want when they prescribe you something. 😬
@LordLemmysLabs 2 жыл бұрын
@@NekoAllenLover The issue is the fact that she used her own treatments on herself in the end. If she didn't believe in it and knew *real* medical treatments would be better for her health, she wouldn't have done it. The only two possible reasons for this I can see is: a. she started off her operation fully knowing she was conning people; but after years of selling it to people, she drank her own koolaid, so to speak. or b. she always believed in her methods and - in her delusional beliefs - attributed any deaths to whatever "underlying issues" she was treating. Obviously, still morally bankrupt enough to use their deaths for personal gain.
@Mikathedog100 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordLemmysLabs she made sure all the wealth the ones she killed went to her, and made them sign off on it while in a weakened state. However, as I said, for others, including people held in high regard (judges, lawyers, politicians, academics) her treatment appeared to worked. Which in hindsight makes sense as diseases of wealth do tend to respond well to fasting. For many patients she'd prescribe just a few weeks of starvation, or low calorie eating. For the sisters, however, she was hell bent on 60 days, had all their money transferred to her, and gained power of attorney over Dora. Her purpose in their "treatment" was most certainly to murder them.
@walterl322 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, what she did was definitely bad and murder, she prayed on vulnerable people and killed them to get their money, but the concept of a "cult" is very nebulous... there is no actual criteria that a group of people need to fit for them to classify as a cult and it can be used to describe any religion, philosophical theory or a political movement... the common usage of this word is basically used as an ad hominem and unless someone comes up with solid criteria like Umberto Eco did with fascism, I think it's time to retire the concept...
@MC-qb1jg Жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are many stories just like this. It's unbelievable how people can treat another human being so horribly.
@brianaadler7103 Жыл бұрын
This is crazy. Love you Caitlin! It all started with one question then turned into me binging your channel.
@hollynotholy 2 жыл бұрын
When you made air quotes when saying "Dr." Hazzard, I immediately remembered Jessica Kellgren-Fozard's video on Rosemary Kennedy's lobotomy. It's heartbreaking to know how many people's lives were ruined by con artists and medical malpractive over the years. These two sisters could've lived such a nice, comfortable life if they hadn't ended up in Linda Hazzard's sanitarium...
@johnpatterson4816 2 жыл бұрын
Let's don't forget Harvey Kellogg*(*Yep.The Cereal Guy.)and his Sanatarium in Battle Creek,Michigan and of course "Doctor"John Romulus Brinkley-aka-the "Goat Gland Doctor"from Del Rio,Texas!! Read the books ▪︎Border Radio"and "Charlatan" for more information.
@johnpatterson4816 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately lobotomy were a common practice from the 20's until the early 60's as a treatment for mental illness. Although in all fairness and honesty the treatment was worse than the cure!! Look how many otherwise ordinary functioning people were essentially turned into "zombies"after that!!! In closing I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!!!
@DirtyPrancing 2 жыл бұрын
Well I agree, but considering the sisters sought her out, I assume if not her they would have kept going until they learned this lesson in some capacity
@ghostcityshelton9378 2 жыл бұрын
Fitting isn't it how Mr. Kennedy faired, with having the massive stroke but was still alive for a bit ! He 'killed' his daughter Rosemary when he 'allowed' that ice pick to be shoved into her brain and he got away with it or so he thought. His brain was 'ok' but parts of his body no longer functioned correctly. It must have been pretty awfull for the dude, oh well... I think KARMA came back to bite him in the butt big time. IF.... he hadd't done that to his daughter, would he STILL have had that stroke like that? Maybe, maybe not.
@elizabethwarman9028 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Rosemary's lobotomy, my Grandma tried to talked her daughter (my sister and my Mom's mother) ,into getting me a lobotomy. Luckily, my Mom said no way.
@jajiloves6626 2 жыл бұрын
It’s impressive how you can tell such a morbid story and still manage to artistically add humor. You’re the best!!
@chickenlover657 2 жыл бұрын
Still, she needs add some Hazzard to her figure....
@clairebowtell8520 2 жыл бұрын
@@chickenlover657 I’m sorry…did you just body shame Caitlin?
@chickenlover657 2 жыл бұрын
@@clairebowtell8520 I'm sorry...are you pretending she's not overweight?
@spitfire155k2 2 жыл бұрын
@@clairebowtell8520 reported this ignorant person for harassment, it’s disgusting!
@spitfire155k2 2 жыл бұрын
@@chickenlover657 what the hell is wrong with you? Your opinion is not wanted nor is it valid!
@flayful Жыл бұрын
This was such an interesting watch. Your team did really well on the research and presentation. What's more, I really appreciate how your team collaborate with historians. ❤️
@nativeamericanfeather9948 2 жыл бұрын
Sad to see how humans can be controlled by another that's driven with such evil.The evil blinds from light,own intuition,common sense,& freedom.Reminds me of the horse that was tied to the chair,all he had to do was walk away & be free..but the rope made him think he was stuck there. He could of just walked away because he was stronger than the chair. But that rope fooled him
@Sweet_Tooth_Art 2 жыл бұрын
As a disabled person the weird shit people have told me will "fix" me this feels like normal stuff
@EEEEeee2748 2 жыл бұрын
dude just take vitamins and do uhh yoga, boom, fixed
@Sweet_Tooth_Art 2 жыл бұрын
@@EEEEeee2748 my favourite is when someone on twitter told me "hot steam could fix my miss folded proteins" parden me sir I'm not a shirt 😂
@texasbluegrass567 2 жыл бұрын
Right there with ya. If I hear one more person tell me I need essential oils....
@jaash7981 2 жыл бұрын
Extra points if they try to exorcise you or some other spiritual nonsense
@bluetopguitar1104 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have MD. I've heard more bad advice from well meaning friends. I gently tell them they are not doctors.
@lindafreeman7030 2 жыл бұрын
Halfway through: "It's downhill from here!" You mean it gets WORSE?!
@BethBurns68 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing! *and I have just arrived at that point...so here I go on the train ride to Weirdsville.*
@BethBurns68 2 жыл бұрын
I thought of Flowers in the Attic more than once during this video. Wow, this was quite the shocking tale. Thank you so much for such a wonderful, and shocking, video.
@imaprincessdammit 2 жыл бұрын
I've been in that house, I lived in Port Orchard, which is very close to Olalla. The library had a tour of it and I met Mr. Olson, he was very nice. To be in that home was very sad, the upstairs where those women were, was the saddest part of the tour. To imagine the distress and see how small the space was... she was truly an evil person.
@laneellisor7113 Жыл бұрын
This camerawork and background and framing and editing has come so far this video is so gorgeous as well as clear
@TroyEilertson 2 жыл бұрын
It's truly a testament to human resilience that Dora, after suffering all that physical and emotional trauma, was able to live to an age that was above the average life expectancy of the time.
@9168W 2 жыл бұрын
And was able to give birth. That blew my mind
@NoThankUBeQuiet 2 жыл бұрын
Yah know part of that average wasn't brought down by low maximums but by so many dying as infants and toddlers right?
@paahl1572 2 жыл бұрын
I can promise not a soul thought “useless cow”. Not one person.
@dsa2685 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr😭 we love Caitlin
@Sildesnude 2 жыл бұрын
I also think that "cow" comment was totally uncalled for. I really like Caitlins voice and stories. She also do a little southern twang sometimes, that i find adorable 😊
@petenielsen6683 2 жыл бұрын
If her hair had red highlights she could pass for my ex-GF's sister. (May she - my ex-GF and not her sibling since she has none - rest in peace.)
@patrickmccurry1563 2 жыл бұрын
@Jen Marie It can hurt to hear people you like insulted even by themselves... sometimes especially by themselves.
@DragonMaiden77 2 жыл бұрын
She is a queen and shouldn’t hurt herself like that 😭
@KryssLaBryn 10 ай бұрын
Hi Caitlin! It's an old upload, but I wanted to correct one minor detail: the Empress Hotel the sisters were originally staying at is in Victoria, BC, not Vancouver (you can see that printed in the upper right corner of the postcard, as well). It's a lovely old place, still up and running, and famous for its very British High Tea; for being the place (iirc) Errol Flynn died; and for the infamous Chris Brothers Pepperoni and Seagulls incident (which you can find online, and which is hilarious). If you're ever in the area, go and have the High Tea! It's supposed to be quite the experience.
@mimisezlol Ай бұрын
I looked into the seagull incident, and... How did all those seagulls fit through the window? Goodness gracious.
@RoughStoneRollingLapidary 5 ай бұрын
Caitlin, so good to see a new video by you. I miss your content so much. I truly hope your sabbatical has been restful and therapeutic and I hope it’s nearing complete. The world simply doesn’t have enough of you in it. Please, grace us with your amazingness and knowledge.
@CombativeMedic 2 жыл бұрын
What she did to Claire is disgusting. I'm not surprised she was so incredibly disrespectful because, well, she was a serial killer...but I'm always disgusted when life is disregarded and the dead are so disrespected.
@katherinaclark2669 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Caitlin, I thought you should know that this video has inspired me to write my MA dissertation on Victorian medical pseudoscience and the way it influences modern Quackery. Still a work in progress but you've inspired me so much. My MA is at the University of York in Medical History and Humanities.
@actuallyapathy 2 жыл бұрын
you probably already know this but if not you'd probably love 'sawbones' which is a podcast about all that stuff!
@imsleepy6211 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have chronic illness and have heard so much bs on what can help my various chronic illnesses. Had I believed these people I probably would have died lol but luckily I have always loved science and study. It’s so sad that people STILL die every day from bs pseudoscience. Let me know how it goes, honestly I’d love to read it. I plan to do something similar when I get my master’s as a clinical dietician.
@tundrawomansays5067 2 жыл бұрын
It appears to me we haven’t moved much beyond leeches and blood letting. I wish I was kidding.
@katherinaclark2669 2 жыл бұрын
@@actuallyapathy absolutely love sawbones!
@katherinaclark2669 2 жыл бұрын
@@imsleepy6211 omg amazing! It's going well I've still got 6 months left of writing but I'll defo get in contact x
@zonadaniell4584 2 жыл бұрын
Tragic tale but very interesting. It held my attention throughout. Kudos for sharing and bringing yet another unknown event to light. Well done.
@stay_curious Жыл бұрын
I love at the start, on this channel you know what you're getting yourself into. You chose this life for yourself! I've recently started watching all your videos, I love your style of story telling
@kellyg358 2 жыл бұрын
This was abuse by pretty much every definition. It's not surprising to me that Dora was reluctant to walk away after Claire's death.
@sophiejune4515 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Dora was able to have any children after every her body went through. I'm glad she was able to escape. I think there's something to the idea that because it's a woman other women are more likely to trust but bad people are bad regardless and we have to watch out.
@leemasters3592 2 жыл бұрын
Especially considering she was 40 when she married and must have happened quite quickly. They married in April and he died in August the same year.
@wingedyera 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised she survived at all. At that point refeeding syndrome definitely would have been an issue as well
@Kehy_ThisNameWasAlreadyTaken 2 жыл бұрын
compared to most animals, humans are tanks that can bounce back from seemingly crippling or fatal experiences
@wingedyera 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kehy_ThisNameWasAlreadyTaken true, but there are plenty of people who sadly did die from refeeding syndrome still I'm happy she did survive
@tracycraft2971 Жыл бұрын
Omg!! Your editing is like no other!! So love your channel but your humor is classic!! You rock girl! Love your channel!
@stephanie6058 2 жыл бұрын
I swear Caitlyn is DEFINITELY a friend I can have lol. I love her energy
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