After seeing a few comments, I have realised that something I should have clarified better in the video is that Cynthia Boyce was not Tony Gardner. Gardner is a notable and highly respected designer who has worked in the industry for over 40 years, predominantly on movies with a horror/Halloween aesthetic. He is not your average run-of-the-mill makeup designer. Additionally, he has never worked with the majority of the artists that Cynthia tweeted about and when he worked with Katy, Cynthia had already been tweeting about the pop girls for around a year. I can confidently say that the likelihood of it being him is 0 and that Cynthia definitely stole the image from Gardner's account. I apologise as I should have made this explicitly clear in the video. There was a small section of this video that was left on the cutting room floor, that discussed a possible connection between Cynthia's random "bloody face" tweet and Tony being a makeup designer often in horror works. I theorised that perhaps an artist was planning a horror themed music video/era that would have Gardner as a designer, but the plans never came to fruition. I cut this theory as I felt it was a little rambly (me, rambly? never....) and that it didn't add anything to the video. But perhaps on reflection I should have left it in. Apologies for any confusion caused :)

obviously all those artists saw her tweets and used them as lyrics

We lost possibly a time traveler because of stan twitter 😭😭😭

Something I noticed: Cynthia ominously tweeting "moon" happened just a few days before Radiohead released their album A Moon Shaped Pool. As far as I know, they hadn't announced the title of the album when the tweet was made. They probably have no connection, but the thought of a twitter account known for predicting pop girly music also predicting a Radiohead album is absolutely hilarious to me.

I find it so bizarre that, Cynthia had proven hundreds of times before that she was a reliable insider, but after posting a picture from someone else's instagram, never even claiming it was her own, she immediately became "unreliable" and "fake???" How does that make sense??

guys cynthia boyce was just sia in the beysment

I don’t get why tweeting that pic would make ppl think they were fake. I think it would’ve been sensible to conclude that the doll was the makeup designer, who did stuff for celebs and HEARS stuff when they do their makeup.

why is it ALWAYS either Taylor, Katy or Ariana related twitter account 💀

Don't some artists throw out decoy songs to see who is leaking their stuff? I wonder why Katy's team wouldn't have done anything after the first one 😭

What's interesting though is that the 9th track of Katy Perry's new album at the time was "Chained to the Rhythm" which turned out to be the lead single of "Witness" AND it was released exactly THREE WEEKS AFTER the inauguration of Donald Trump...

She really did the "you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes"

Wait, she was ended... because she posted a picture from Tony gardeners insta??? 😂 girl what

She probably was legit and got caught was fired. Not wanting to disappoint her followers or still wanted some sense of Twitter fame just started lying. Thats my theory.

What if Cynthia is actually just a group account for a bunch of top singers, and she's like an inside joke among them

I dont know if you guys noticed but the ninth track of KP4 (Witness) was Chained to the Rhythm, and its music video was released 3 weeks AFTER the speculated date... interesting me thinks...

i love learning random online culture that i was to young to know when it happened

A lot of songs are shopped around to see who wants them. I think "Cynthia" has access to these songs before theyre ever attached to any particular artist.

Also there's a Taylor Swift mannequin that predicted her relationship with Travis Kelce. "I feel fantastic hey hey hey"

It’s the way that one photo made ppl just forget abt the dozens of songs they predicted 💀💀 Tbh if I were them, I’d hop off twitter too cuz that’s just dumb 😭

OMG THANK YOU. I was rewatching all of your old stuff because I’m hungry for content. I’m a local but I love watching meme culture from a distance and yours is my favourite coverage of such a topic

Why does the doll in the middle look like Taylor Swift from Temu? 💀😭

As a Graphic Designer I get a lot of work that requires an NDA to be signed, including Album art with printed Lyrics. There's so many people with an inside look at various aspects of the creative industries. However, it's more a question of personal ethics to stick to the promises you make.

There is an entire black market / underground economy centered around the illegal trade of leaked / unreleased / yet to be released music. People purchase songs from shady hackers or insiders with crypcur. Songs are often bought just so that other people don't buy and then leak them to the public. Just ask around twt in any sort of fan circle. Unreleased / leaked songs from Sia and Melanie Martinez are notorious for this underground trading, as an example.

Fun Fact: Track 9 of KP4 (Witness) is Chained to the Rhythm. The lead single

Internet Historian could never

my theory is that cynthia was dating someone who worked in the music industry and then they broke up which is why she kinda went off the rails by the end of it

I’m not really on twitter that much or even stan twitter but i literally binged all your videos after you came up on my recommendation ✨ it’s so entertaining and funny lmao

I have a feeling their first tweets were real and they were a true insider but then got fired and started to put fake leaks

Wow, what a mystery. It’s crazy how accurate that account managed to predict songs (even unreleased ones). When I first saw “Pink is the flavor, solve the riddle”, I thought it was a reference to the viral Pink Sauce! 😂 Like imagine a random twitter account predicting things like that!

I genuinely love random deep dives into internet culture i know nothing about

So nice of Cynthia to help out smaller artists like Beyoncé grow the fan base she deserves

It’s also actually possible for her to have insider knowledge and know lyrics/song names, as opposed to somehow knowing the outcome of an election/football game

OMG I JUST FOUND SOMETHING OUT. Ok listen up. When Cynthia Boyce posted the tweets "3" and "wig off" I though that's weird so I did a little digging and I found something. It's kind of a stretch but Katy Perry's 3rd song on her 4th album is called "Roulette". One of her lyrics says "tonight I'ma let my hair down", relating to the post "wig off". Also if anyone's wondering the 9th song on her 4th album is "Chained to the Rhythm" which is one of her most popular songs on that album. The tweet "Bloody face." could be a reference to Katy Perry's 4th album's cover.

I remember this account being discovered and all the hype around her cryptic tweets. This is speculatively sharing information I heard, but at one point I was told the account was associated with the producer who did the Country Club Martini Crew remixes (Nick* I believe was another name he went by?). Very frequently he'd remix Beyoncé, Gaga, Britney, etc songs including some of the Britney Jean era releases. The most damning evidence is he did a remix of Blow by Beyoncé that even contained a verse that'd been entirely scrapped from any released version of the song, which gives credence to the idea that he had some sort of insider knowledge and/or connections and means he could potentially have tweeted those lyrics.

that doll is so scary 😭 i cannot get over that

your videos are honestly my favourite on youtube. I love exploring these super niche pop culture memes and internet lore sm

HER IMPACT OMG

Her pfp is so scary for what

I haven't heard anything about this, but I'm excited. I'm betting this thing is going to end up being something like what happened with the Ariana Grande Samsung Smart Fridge subplot and they posted this after and just made it look like it happened before the songs came out.

After looking at the doll for so long it’s scary and I don’t want to sleep alone 😭

brooklyn nights got leaked in 2014 and gaga sang the chorus at the artrave tour so the lyrics are 100% real

I just listen to instrumental songs and have no idea whats going on with these singers and Stan twitter, but you make it really digestible. Love your videos!

I think the biggest lesson I learned is Katy has fans

I love how a Dolltwt person manage to sneak into a video stantwt about a doll leaking music😭

To be fair the chained to the rhythm is track nine and is the best song on that album...... along with the fact the lead single (chained to the rhythm) was released around march of 2017 not far off her prediction. If you get so many things right then the industry notices so they probably moved back the announcement for that song. SO maybe she only knew of chained to the rhythm so thats why she said it was her fav song.

He may be called Joe Regrets but joe'll never regret watching his videos! (Sorry)

The reason I watch joe rejects video is because of his accent.

So glad you're back! Are you gonna do a floptropica video?

Your videos always bring me so much joy 🩷

bro just yesterday I was missing you and looking through your old videos and now a new one!!!

We love to see frequent uploads 🎉

gosh, why were people so mean to her, it's their interpretation who was wrong.. another commenter said Katy's 9th track was released 3 weeks after the inauguration it's like after the photo incident they completely forgot the 3 years of many correct leaks cynthia shared and it's not like she had to be correct everytime, she prolly made that account for funsies to see how long people would take to notice (2 years!) and what they'd theorize when they finally found out about it, and not to be obligated to answer stans' questions

nicely put together!!!

I would like to see a video about One Directions rainbow bears. They were so bizarre and nobody knows what that was about to this day. Might be a lot to dig in to tho..

I love getting reminders why Twitter terrifies me!! I'm not really sure I understand why people decided this person was a fake just because she posted cryptic shit? If she was really an insider, it's possible the pivot happened because there was increased concern about leakers internally, and she didn't want to be outed. Very strange stuff tho. Why not just leave her be, let her keep posting stuff, and see if it pans out without freaking out? Plenty of the most credible leakers in the gaming sphere have gotten predictions wrong without utter backlash. Pretty much anything within a corporate industry is subject to change based on a huge number of factors

Babe wake up, Joe regrets dropped a video

i gotta pause and leave ur videos for an hour because i wish they were longer ur content is so good!!

Welcome back Joe! We missed you 🎉❤

u posted just in time! i was just about to start dying my hair!!

This video is remarkable, thank you for this gift 🙏

such an interesting video thank you!!

joe we need more content please!!

I like to imagine this is a Midas’ Barber situation. This is like a music/sound engineer in the recording studio or something and they’re awful at keeping secrets. So they whisper with their little doll about future songs and bury them Only instead of the rushes saying “king Midas has ass’ ears” when the wind blows through, random lyrics show up on people’s feeds on twitter

being this early to a joe regrets video is like a blessing

I watch this channel after watching scary deep dives to balance it out with light hearted deep dives.

this guy's voice is really satisfying

Your videos are the UK’s finest export

"Predict the future" Dawg this is just a leaker.

They literally have a time traveller on twitter but when they did ONE single mistake, everyone would immediately bash them.. wow

Quality content ❤

It's a good day when Joe Regrets uploads.

Did she work on the simpsons? 😂 (If you don't understand, the Simpsons has a reputation of predicting stuff.)

I love your videos and your captivating content for this media. I remember have gotten a similar account but not for predictions, it was a rare account for being in a KZfaq fandom 💀😭

(making this post at 4:05) Is it at all possible that, since the tweets weren't "discovered" until 2015, that they could have actually all been posted in 2015 and had their post date/times modified to earlier years? You wouldn't even have to edit the creation date of the account, just create an account and wait until a few years later, then make all the tweets, modifying their date/times, and make a blog/forum post about about how "omg guys, an account predicted the future!"

Yay u posted I have something new to eat lunch to

Something about your narration and jokes and the way you read the tweets with cuss words bleeped out made me laugh uncontrollably during the entire video

Omg this is so crazy. I had just seen a tweet where someone had made a joke mentioning Cynthia Boyce and I said to myself “who tf is Cynthia Boyce!?” But I never looked into it. This is so interesting honestly, great video!

ur accent make these videos so much better

its seems extremely obvious that the account was just an insider because all of the predictions are very specific genres. it looks very much like it was someone who worked for a studio that did pop music in some way (could even be distribution person).

You know it will be a good day qhen Joe uploads 😌

I'm just thinking of like a plot where like people with superpowers use Cynthia's tweets to check which timeline they are in...

3:28 I saw who you put in there. Her web really does connect them all ig ;)

This is the only channel I care about. The only truth teller around these days!

Incredibly interesting. They were definitely involved behind the scenes.

0:52 those lyrics are triggering like i NEED THIS ON SPOTIFY!

Beautiful start taste indeed

thnks bb

My guess after watching the video: I first thought Cynthia could be a music journalist (or someone who knew one), as record labels or artists' teams will send songs to be reviewed with a embargo date, but considering the account was able to "predict" (allegedly) even unreleased songs, I wonder if it could be someone working along a producer (like an assistant) or within a marketing team, as while some of the artists mentioned are signed with some subsidiary from UMG, Britney is (or was) with Sony. Althought, when it comes to big artists, there are times songs may go back and forth if the label feels a smaller artist's work could be a bigger hit for another act. Either way, I wonder how those leaks affected the artists' respective teams at all (if they would try to be more careful with collaborators or didn't felt that bothered by it or even never heard about the account)

am i too high or is this scary

PLEASEE do a vid on Lovely Peaches

Yay, these videos bring me joy :D

Ty bb!

can’t believe all those artists stole cynthia’s lyrics smh

i have a strong feeling that cynthia is simply a ghost songwriter and is keeping track of the lyrics she came up with for future record, in case she has to prove she wrote them in court or just to people she knows?

Brooklyn Nights was leaked very early on so that one might not have required being an insider. The others only a few months early are not that convincing either as most of this stuff leaks on forums months before the general public is aware. For example: I saw a performance of “Let it Go” at Disneyland before the song or Frozen movie were even released because I was there during filming of promo. There are many ways to know about unreleased lyrics and songs so… just a thought.

8:03 "Taylor recorded battle between red/1989" BATTLE (LETS GO)!??!?! PAUSE

i think cynthia works in the industry or has a reliable connect for the leaks edit: this is mentioned 3:32 i suppose there’s no way to know if those songs are gonna pop off

Joe, can you please cover Nyan~ Neko Sugar Girls

9:28 "'Everyday is a holiday'' could also refer to Jessi's ''Gum'' 😍

it is _such_ a stan twitter type thing that the account posted a random picture and got one thing wrong, and suddenly all their credibiity was gone and they threw a fit and left forever lmao. they could have had it all if they just never replied to anyone and only continued to post random cryptic tweets imo