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The Donetsk People's Republic

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10 жыл бұрын

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As an uneasy ceasefire continues to hold in Eastern Ukraine, VICE News returns to Donetsk with an exclusive film that follows some of the characters involved in setting up the self-proclaimed state of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR).
In early April 2014, pro-Russia rebels seized the regional administration building and other key institutions in Donetsk, expelling Ukrainian officials and raising their own flag. The rebellion here - and other incidents elsewhere - quickly escalated into a bloody civil war that has left over 2,000 people dead and displaced more than a million.
Filmed over six weeks, this documentary follows the chaotic birth of the DPR as it tries to forge a path to independence and closer ties to Russia.
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@shaned3362
@shaned3362 8 жыл бұрын
you know they are pro Russian when they wear track pants with armor.
@Kriegter
@Kriegter 4 жыл бұрын
Gopnik military
@malkius656
@malkius656 4 жыл бұрын
lol.
@Ingen.17
@Ingen.17 3 жыл бұрын
Stfu
@roskcity
@roskcity 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ingen.17 Stfu
@murderousintents6474
@murderousintents6474 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ingen.17 #ихтамнет
@MCARCstudios
@MCARCstudios 2 жыл бұрын
The events happening now have a much deeper history and tension the more you learn about it. Good documentary here.
@whydoievenbothertoputthish2199
@whydoievenbothertoputthish2199 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been following this series as it came out as no major western media covered it properly my heart breaks seeing it again so many lives wasted for nothing...
@ner0p
@ner0p 2 жыл бұрын
@@cannedstarfish6194 Exactly. What those western countries are doing, pumping more weapons into Ukraine, is the opposite of what would help bring negotiations back and peace closer. Unless NATO actually gets involved, the Donbass is independent from Ukraine so I don't see why they still do it unless to fuel the war like they did in Syria - almost exact same, but instead of jihads they use they use the armed forces of Ukraine, which for the most part are not Nazi. It is true that Russia is the aggressor, but context always matters, *always* Ukraine is simply a pawn in this chess game of west *vs* east.
@truelife1060
@truelife1060 2 жыл бұрын
It should have gone 8 years ago when this war started but the same main media that manipulates also hides information
@quantumfairing2216
@quantumfairing2216 2 жыл бұрын
@@cannedstarfish6194 The problem with that statement is that Ukraine had a government that didn't care about their people's life or rights, that ended up with the revolution in 2014. Then Russia invaded and stole Ukrainian soil. The land that was promised to them when they gave up all their nuclear weapons in the agreement that Russia would never attack their country. The world should 100% continue to send weapons to Ukraine so they can protect their own sovereignty and fight back the dictatorship of Russia and let the Ukrainians get back their own land.
@chrisscott4766
@chrisscott4766 2 жыл бұрын
It's ok but it's biased towards Ukraine and not for DPR.
@ryangoslingfan22
@ryangoslingfan22 11 ай бұрын
This is like a gmod server I swear
@HeCommittedWarCrimes
@HeCommittedWarCrimes 15 күн бұрын
DonbassMod server
@werwolf_mk9734
@werwolf_mk9734 12 күн бұрын
Best comment
@ramirezjuan0715
@ramirezjuan0715 Жыл бұрын
The guy who shot this deserves an oscar. I feel like I'm there. Great reporting too.. I'll miss Vice.
@newlevelgamer5879
@newlevelgamer5879 11 ай бұрын
this separatists have been betrayed by putin and russia has brought destruction to this people as Ukraine is winning this war and gaining ground everyday, russia just gave Ukraine the power to get rid of Separatism and reclaim the territories that belong to Ukraine, this people were deceived by russia
@Assfucker0001
@Assfucker0001 9 ай бұрын
Vice ain't gone tho. They just uploaded yesterday.
@ramirezjuan0715
@ramirezjuan0715 9 ай бұрын
@@Assfucker0001 they announced bankruptcy a few months back but they are still around
@Assfucker0001
@Assfucker0001 8 ай бұрын
@@ramirezjuan0715 fr? Damn that's crazy didn't know that
@2ndcomingofFritz
@2ndcomingofFritz 8 ай бұрын
@@Assfucker0001their reporting has significantly reduced in quality though
@italiancat7456
@italiancat7456 5 жыл бұрын
GIVE ME THE FLAG GIVE ME THE FLAG *throws flag* *flag falls* BLYAT
@NaughtyBear1337
@NaughtyBear1337 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMoneyMavericks with an Motorcycle Helmet, that Looks like a stahlhelm... ahja
@1forest120
@1forest120 4 жыл бұрын
@@NaughtyBear1337 M16 helmet = bad person
@NaughtyBear1337
@NaughtyBear1337 4 жыл бұрын
@@1forest120 the helmet looks like an Mixture out of an M35 and M42 Helmet
@Johntb100
@Johntb100 4 жыл бұрын
Donbass is Ukraine.
@deeremies2266
@deeremies2266 4 жыл бұрын
@@Johntb100 yes
@thedriftr1990
@thedriftr1990 6 жыл бұрын
19:17 - pulls out gun 19:27 - realises there’s no magazine 19:30 - realises he’s lost the magazine
@rogermoore27
@rogermoore27 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@rogermoore27
@rogermoore27 3 жыл бұрын
Worst action hero ever
@dev-pj9vi
@dev-pj9vi 2 жыл бұрын
All of it to settle a fucking road rage dispute
@emcee1337
@emcee1337 2 жыл бұрын
they all seem stupid af
@crystalamity381
@crystalamity381 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously a bunch of thugs working for Putin, Referendum was rigged obviously😩 feel sorry for the poor Ukrainians who literally had no voice to stop this, they were attacking them in the street! This was the start of Putins invasion of Ukraine.
@birddt3
@birddt3 10 ай бұрын
2023 here. I can't help but wonder how many featured in this documentary are still alive.
@birddt3
@birddt3 10 ай бұрын
@@vene4ka It's virtually impossible it's zero....The Donboss "volunteer" battalions were shredded pretty early in the war. Russians used them for mine clearance/machine gun finders before Wagoner brought in the penal battalions. Every fighting age male in this video is most certainly dead/wounded by now.
@YourTovarishMayor
@YourTovarishMayor 4 ай бұрын
​@@birddt3 As a resident of the republic, I am I want to say that you are half right. Many people died, but some survived. Also, Russia almost did not participate in 2014, only arms supplies Благодарю за внимание, если прочитали
@user-mv4kz6lw8u
@user-mv4kz6lw8u 3 ай бұрын
​@@vene4ka by that you also mean people who were held by this terrorists and were shown in the video, so pick your words
@tovarish_serjant
@tovarish_serjant 2 ай бұрын
Quite a lot. Andrei Ryabinin, nicknamed "Lenin", went through the whole war and remained alive, recently I would like to ask him some personal questions. Roma from the anti-corruption department went to Crimea, Maxim did not join the militia, many protesters stayed at home with their families.
@tovarish_serjant
@tovarish_serjant 2 ай бұрын
@@vene4ka he losses of the L/DPR servicemen were, but were significantly exceeded by the Ukrainian side, the losses of the AFU and the losses of the L/DPR amounted to ~ 1.5/1 due to the offensive of Ukraine and the protection of the L/DPR. Ukraine greatly underestimated its losses, and, according to the General Staff, about 3,000 Ukrainian servicemen and 20,000 L/DPR soldiers were killed, and according to the UN - from 4,500 to 5,500 people. I also personally know many people who have been at the front for 10 years.
@fackery8438
@fackery8438 Жыл бұрын
"Politics is a prostitute" greatest quote ever
@reanimationeas342
@reanimationeas342 Жыл бұрын
In a way, political candidates do whore themselves out for public approval
@seany532
@seany532 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant you couldnt make this shite up,, the head of security driving around in a stolen car trying to shoot someone for flipping him the bird, quality
@haemse
@haemse 2 жыл бұрын
And then taking about how God saved his life because he saw his good doings ... Priceless delusion
@fakyu9346
@fakyu9346 5 жыл бұрын
The whole video is Slav meme
@bogdanafilonich33
@bogdanafilonich33 3 ай бұрын
It is the real war, your comment is not relatable.
@hwoulsetx
@hwoulsetx 22 күн бұрын
meme supposed to be funny
@DDOD25
@DDOD25 11 күн бұрын
This comment thread represents humanity and power of disinformation perfectly. 1% thinks ongoing war is a tragedy and should be taken seriously, while the rest is comfortable with dismissing it just like yet another meme.
@stefk9883
@stefk9883 Жыл бұрын
This documentary provides such a good context to the current events in Ukraine. Well done Vice
@SoulBrotherB
@SoulBrotherB Жыл бұрын
right, this one is different too "8 year before"Donbas documentary, highly recommend
@reanimationeas342
@reanimationeas342 11 ай бұрын
It is horrifying that terrorism and war have taken hold of east Ukraine
@newlevelgamer5879
@newlevelgamer5879 11 ай бұрын
You have been betrayed by putin and russia has brought destruction to your people has Ukraine is winning this war
@sadwaifu
@sadwaifu 11 ай бұрын
yeah its really sickening how russia had so many people already in ukraine before to overthrow them.. and brainwash them all
@0BLACKESTFUN0
@0BLACKESTFUN0 11 ай бұрын
one sided tho .
@Gazer873
@Gazer873 3 ай бұрын
It’s weird to watch this in 2024.
@petersent123
@petersent123 3 ай бұрын
They remind me of MAGA morons in 2020
@brainbytes3484
@brainbytes3484 7 жыл бұрын
So it's ethno-nationalism vs ethno-nationalism? Wonderful.
@jcarter3238
@jcarter3238 7 жыл бұрын
BrainBytes It's a reaction people have when being violently targeted for being loyal to their previous government that was also violently ousted by thugs. And technically, the land was Russian but was given in exchange for several things. But the Ukraine has squelched on their deal so I'd say they're taking it easy on the Ukraine when contractually the land should go back to Russia since the contract is no longer being honored or recognized. Don't you think? Either way, it's between them and no other country should get involved financially or militarily.
@brainbytes3484
@brainbytes3484 7 жыл бұрын
I express solidarity to the the DPR, but in the end, they are being used by Putin right now. The communists that made up the republic are losing power in the face of Russia's neoliberalism. The days of the USSR are (sadly) gone. That said, I recognize Crimea as free from Ukraine, and if the the rest of eastern ukraine wishes, they should be allowed as well. I'm only concerned this is going to devolve into what my post said: two ethno nationalist sides foghting it out, one side supported by western powers, and the other by Putin.
@jcarter3238
@jcarter3238 7 жыл бұрын
BrainBytes Hmmm. Well I'm not sad the USSR is not in existence, nor are any of my in-laws currently living in Kiev and Russia. And I'm not sure what you mean by being used by Putin. Would it be bad geopolitically for Putin if the EU grabbed Ukraine? Of course. But it would be equally bad for the people in Ukraine. And culturally speaking it would be the death of any nuclear family values. I guess I'm not seeing how they're being used or exploited when it's mutually beneficial.
@brainbytes3484
@brainbytes3484 7 жыл бұрын
But did you not just say that other countries should stay out of this both militarily and financially? Regarding the USSR, it was the other superpower preventing the US from becoming the sole superpower. It prevented what the US wants right now, military and financial hegemony of american interests around the world. While the USSR has a terrible past regarding human rights violations, I am in the camp it could have been saved, albeit some restructuring (perhaps more of a confederacy). We're seeing this in NATO's expansion eastward past germany, which Bush H.W and NATO promised Gorbachev wouldn't happen in exchange for a united germany. With the collapse of the USSR, that deal disappeared. The Ukrainian conflict largely stems from NATOs expansion into Georgia and Ukraine, and the pressure it is putting on Russia through this. In regards to the exploitation by Putin? Like I said, I admire the DPR for standing up against Ukraine's semi-fascist government. But, many of these separatists are former soviet citizens or communists who want to return to the system they had before. Now that the DPR is more tied with Russia, that wing of revolutionaries and leftists no longer have influence, and instead are part of Putin's plans of political posturing and economic neoliberalism. That's mainly why I don't see it as mutually beneficial, but instead as a lopsided deal for the DPR.
@jcarter3238
@jcarter3238 7 жыл бұрын
BrainBytes Well the end goal IS to become one with Russia. They simply had to break free first from the Ukraine. Regarding America, it's the NWO (and yes NATO is a big part of that) that Bush was so fond of, rearing its ugly head only now the status quo calls it globalism. The EU was the giant first leap for globalism. The democrats and a good chunk of republicans are huge supporters of this. There is a lot of money to be made in globalism for a circle at the top, the next tier does it in the name of utopia, perfect world, no boundaries, no race, no gender, no class etc. So they work the propaganda and push it through the system in the name of equality and love. Keep both parents working and children raised by the system because it's about 'gender equality'. The rest at the bottom suffer greatly with no voice. This is what ruffles Putin's feathers. Putin is doing his best to model his country, as is China, after the Nationalist and sovereign America circa 1940. But globalism is a poison that seeps into the youth and this strikes fear in nationalist sovereign nations. They see the coming threat. This is why the recent reactions to and policies on homosexuality and pornography have come up in Russia. Russia and China have both stated recently that the US was great once but has completely fallen. There is very little respect left. It's really funny when you think about it. Trade the word communism for globalism and it's like the US is becoming what Russia was depicted as, and Russia is in the shoes the US was wearing long ago. We now hold the poison dismantling values and governments with corruption. I did mean what I said about staying out of it. But this does involve Russia at its core. I'm just an average Joe talking, I'm not Secretary of State. America should stay out of this. But our opinions don't even matter so who the fuck are we anyway.
@DaHuntsman1
@DaHuntsman1 9 жыл бұрын
You know, if someone made a movie exactly like this, i would watch it. Its very interesting having a look to the inner situation, the struggle between the different factions, and the aftermath.
@brianenel506
@brianenel506 3 жыл бұрын
You should watch Bloody Sunday (2002)
@hewster9874
@hewster9874 2 жыл бұрын
MAD FOXES (1981)
@pisvis5746
@pisvis5746 2 жыл бұрын
The aftermatch has began
@KoleMaravilla
@KoleMaravilla 2 жыл бұрын
Donbass (2018)
@freemindrebel
@freemindrebel 2 жыл бұрын
@@pisvis5746 More like an unexpected twist
@albertoftasmania
@albertoftasmania 2 жыл бұрын
What's with this influx of people who suddenly think they're experts on Russia-Ukraine relations and the history of the two countries? NPC's, the lot of you.
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 2 жыл бұрын
Compared to what, your god-knowledge of these countries?
@albertoftasmania
@albertoftasmania 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Compared to nothing. I don't claim to be an expert, but most people in the west couldn't point to Ukraine on a map if they were asked to.
@reedschrichte800
@reedschrichte800 2 ай бұрын
How do you know? You sound as ignorant as anyone.
@ribeiroz78
@ribeiroz78 2 жыл бұрын
24:29 "there was no independent verification off the polls and no independent monitors" Russia, what a beautiful democracy
@saccorhytus
@saccorhytus Жыл бұрын
@@Hugh-Glass fucking Nazi
@alararkadas92111
@alararkadas92111 7 ай бұрын
​@@Hugh-Glass There's that nazi talk again that led to this conflict....
@vanceofthetube
@vanceofthetube 16 күн бұрын
Yes. Atleast they didn't try to assassinate anyone while giving a speech after they failed to jail him like in the USA.😂
@nathanstein8572
@nathanstein8572 6 жыл бұрын
18:02-18:40 is my favorite part. It's even funnier if you know Russian.
@navaryn2938
@navaryn2938 4 жыл бұрын
Watched this video more than once and the fellas that can't spell "referendum" nor get the flag right crack me up every time
@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist
@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist 4 жыл бұрын
@@bruno_kunda For such an incompetent group of people, they have been pretty dman successful in overthrowing the Ukrainian government in the region.
@MrArtaque
@MrArtaque 4 жыл бұрын
@@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist because Ukrainians are no better
@joedenathan4775
@joedenathan4775 4 жыл бұрын
@@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist *Ahem* Russia
@halcyonXT
@halcyonXT 3 жыл бұрын
@@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist its obviously faked wtf. You guys believe this is real?
@roskcity
@roskcity 3 жыл бұрын
@@halcyonXT How do you know it's fake? Smartass.
@joestephen3756
@joestephen3756 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic documentary - summed up by the ten seconds after 4:30 - the head of the anti-corruption department stamping documents then immediately accepting a bribe on camera
@alexeig127
@alexeig127 11 ай бұрын
You understood it wrong, it wasn't a bribe! They assigned a sum of money to buy a pistolet on black market. After the acception of deal the anti-corruption guy demands to take a look on the purchase. It can be seen at 4:55
@joefry1947
@joefry1947 8 ай бұрын
so the anti corruption head buying a firearm on the black market is fine then? lmao@@alexeig127
@user-uz2ij7hh6p
@user-uz2ij7hh6p Жыл бұрын
22:57 You bring in a bunch of thieves and thugs into power and act surprised when they act like the wild animals they told you they were.
@eduarddv00
@eduarddv00 9 жыл бұрын
mistake by vice. vice typed the lyrics of the russian federation anthem, instead of the ussr anthem which was sung
@kaaosaf
@kaaosaf 9 жыл бұрын
you're right...you can clearly hear the line, 'along the great path which great Lenin did lead'. This whole report is sketchy as fuck though anyway.
@asiox8398
@asiox8398 9 жыл бұрын
to mount the video is propaganda when you watch the video and remember all the spots where cut these pieces
@Manowar_
@Manowar_ 3 жыл бұрын
bruh the people litteraly have the orthodox double headed eagle with a saint in the flag and sing the ussr anthem
@terriblehumanbeing8117
@terriblehumanbeing8117 2 жыл бұрын
@@Manowar_ They're just following Comrade Jesus's teachings
@Manowar_
@Manowar_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@terriblehumanbeing8117 based
@jimmycricket7385
@jimmycricket7385 2 жыл бұрын
Almost comedic but with an underlying charge of hysteria that could turn murderous at any time.
@abrahamchijioke7264
@abrahamchijioke7264 2 жыл бұрын
Aged well
@mayor3367
@mayor3367 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, what an accurate prediction.
@justinemot2282
@justinemot2282 10 ай бұрын
When i was working in Kyiv one of my collegues was from Donetsk. He used to work as an important manager in LifeCell, a Ukrainian mobile operator, and was proposed the chair of dpr's ministry of communication there, which he immediately rejected, packed his things into a car, took his wife and daughter and left for good. Bcz ppl with brains like him would never join a gang of bandits. After a couple of years he managed to sell his apartment in Donetsk and managed to convince his in-laws to move to Kyiv as well. The best people of Donetsk left Donetsk and supported Ukraine. The clueless, drunk lohi stayed to play-pretend a republic. Then they were pushed by the armed lohi, which, in their turn, started fighting with each other for the resources, turning a once economically prominent city into a hood with guns and violence and no justice. The true russkiy mir
@user-id9ji8di5t
@user-id9ji8di5t 10 ай бұрын
Лучше умерять за Россию, чем за фашисткую Окраину
@realmen199
@realmen199 8 ай бұрын
Много ты знаешь я смотрю. Много людей с Донбасса приехало в мой город и они говорили что украинская армия приходила в их города и просто мародёрствовала, их обстреливали а вы что делали в это время?
@mjrooney710
@mjrooney710 3 ай бұрын
Right and Ukraine isn't corrupt ??? Ask Joe Biden.
@weremus8639
@weremus8639 3 ай бұрын
@realmen199 So if Donetsk so good, why they left it for Russia?
@laser3148
@laser3148 3 ай бұрын
@@weremus8639 wdym left it for russia? dpr joined russia and who were living there are still there
@lordlidl6713
@lordlidl6713 11 ай бұрын
Ah yes, Russia, a place so famous for being tiny and overpopulated, you have to annex new lands to live in it
@User-dc6sm
@User-dc6sm 11 ай бұрын
wasn't russias idea though, it was donetsk and luhansk idean the asked every year sice 2014 and 2022 russia finally did it, they wouldn't have gone further if ukraine would have just given up the regions but yk karma strikes ukraine now.
@lordlidl6713
@lordlidl6713 11 ай бұрын
@@User-dc6sm yeah right, its just that they've sent a few soldiers and provocateurs over there and the main guy in charge of the DNR separating was a known ГРУ agent, but I'm sure the Russians had nothing to do with it, sure buddy))
@bjarkiengelsson
@bjarkiengelsson 11 ай бұрын
​@@User-dc6smDPR and LPR don't exist. Stop believing lies and realize that the real world is not in your favor.
@User-dc6sm
@User-dc6sm 9 ай бұрын
@@clau0072 because that's a weak states move.
@---675
@---675 9 ай бұрын
@@User-dc6sm The outcome of Russian nationalism and irredentism on full display.
@download333
@download333 9 жыл бұрын
"Are you afraid of something?" How about the masked guards and the government employee who just threatened bodily injury over stickers? Is that the sort of thing someone should be worried about?
@hamsterman32
@hamsterman32 9 жыл бұрын
Maybe if the punk didn't belong to USA funded right sector then he would've been treated like your average misdemeanor case.
@download333
@download333 9 жыл бұрын
***** I don't care what someone is suspected of doing. If you want to pretend you live in a free society, they are innocent until proven guilty. Also, in most free societies, having and promoting a political view that is opposed by the current government is not considered a crime. Don't get me wrong, the US (where I live) fails at this in a lot of ways, but that video was the sort of thing that cops here would at least try to hide, not use it as an example of properly conducted law-enforcement. Actually, that's not entirely true. You should see some of the insane SWAT videos that are used as examples of well-executed raids. And yes, the US meddles in the affairs of other countries way too much, but that doesn't justify treating some kid like a violent criminal because he happens to agree with a group you don't like.
@HTFDUDEHTF
@HTFDUDEHTF 9 жыл бұрын
***** They didn't get beaten up because they were filming you idiot, how dense are you even? Holy shit.
@vladimirzlatanovic1947
@vladimirzlatanovic1947 3 жыл бұрын
@@download333 Since you are American, btw I am not Ukrainian nor Russian and I am not affected by this, do you think there is any difference between Russian and American interference, be it by army deployment, overthrowing governments, funding some political parties, etc. I mean, Russian influence is presented as bad, and American and EU as good, but for me ruling a country from the outside is bad no matter who is pulling the strings, so i would like to hear what an American thinks.
@FATHOLLYWOODB123
@FATHOLLYWOODB123 3 жыл бұрын
@@hamsterman32 Ukraine wants NATO and the EU, funny how they wanted Russia until Russia invaded Crimea
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 2 жыл бұрын
Lenin heard the word "revolution" and woke up from his long nap outside the Kremlin Also they weren't saying Donetsk at 1:32, they're saying DONBAS
@reenreeniest5263
@reenreeniest5263 2 жыл бұрын
Ay it’s supreme leader
@striderwhiston9897
@striderwhiston9897 10 ай бұрын
I feel bad for the people of Donetsk, the Russians secretly invaded, acted like separatists and have just made the region horrible.
@imeprezime8297
@imeprezime8297 10 ай бұрын
Russia liberated her people from neonazi ukraine scum.
@imtiazakand3174
@imtiazakand3174 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂.donbass populated by russians but soviet map gave it to ukrain.same case with criemia.
@syberian438
@syberian438 10 ай бұрын
​@@imtiazakand3174then why the anti-soviet meetings and rebellion for independent ukraine started from donetsk miners?)
@mikev9
@mikev9 10 ай бұрын
​@@imtiazakand317484% of the population in Donetsk voted to be part of an independent Ukraine in 1991 tho. Imagine having a Russian majority who wants to be part of Ukraine in your case
@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer
@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer Жыл бұрын
It's been years and Russia has made it's move over a year ago, If only ukraine just ALLOWED the Pro-Russian regions to leave, Then this wouldn't be happening
@joseolivarra7791
@joseolivarra7791 Жыл бұрын
Lol are you from america would you allow texas to leave or florida or california 😂😂😂😂😂 thats just not an ok let them leave deal goofy if texas is its own country now china and russia will try to influence to destabilize america grow a brain
@gerri577
@gerri577 Жыл бұрын
@@joseolivarra7791 the UN charter guarantees a nation the right to self determinationa and autonomy. Ukraine, who is a UN member nation must abide by this charter. After being bombed and shelled by their own government, one can't blame those ppl for desiring to be free of that gov. Texas hasn't been bombed and shelled by it's gov. You're comparing apples to oranges.
@joseolivarra7791
@joseolivarra7791 Жыл бұрын
@@gerri577 lol russian propoganda at its finest you forget about the civil war a early form of artillery its still artillery they still seiged bombed and encircled cities guess where texas and virginia etc are still part of america because there no gray area america and ukraine and anyine else with a brain will not allow autonomy of those regions the british russians americans germans have all done it allowing an autonomous region to destabilize your country is a big deal common sense that if theres allowed to be any kind of territorial change in europe by force it will destablize all of europe because russia will keep going as they already proven to have tried and take kyiv they are settling for less coping in bahkmut
@dimashevchenkoua
@dimashevchenkoua Жыл бұрын
there were no "pro russian" regions idiot, yes maybe some regions wanted closer ties with russia than others, but none wanted to join russia. in Donetsk there were large pro-Maidan rallies, but they were violently dispersed by russian mercenaries.
@bernz7776
@bernz7776 2 жыл бұрын
2022 watching this with the Ukraine - Russia war. My heart is bleeding. May Justice go to the people who really deserve it.
@Nanosk3
@Nanosk3 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Its hard to find the truth with a biased news.
@dontcomply5008
@dontcomply5008 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nanosk3 what news do you watch?
@Nanosk3
@Nanosk3 2 жыл бұрын
@@dontcomply5008 I watch a little bit of everything. You can hear mainstream everywhere but I’ll try to find independent news to hear another side.
@Nanosk3
@Nanosk3 2 жыл бұрын
@Nova Burebista if RT and Sputnik was the opposite of CNN or MSNBC than the truth could possibly be somewhere in the middle.
@dontcomply5008
@dontcomply5008 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nanosk3 same here
@DeaXi69
@DeaXi69 9 жыл бұрын
If i've learned anything as a latvian then it's that arguing with old russian females is as useful as watching the paint dry. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience especially if they outnumber you. There's no reasoning with them.
@mrditkovich5817
@mrditkovich5817 Жыл бұрын
How is it going in Latvia now ? Your government must be really repressing Russians
@RK-cj4oc
@RK-cj4oc 11 ай бұрын
​@@mrditkovich5817Colonial russians should not be in Latvia to begin with.
@C-Farsene_5
@C-Farsene_5 11 ай бұрын
@@mrditkovich5817 considering how the Latvian identity survived centuries of Russian repression I'd say that their own repression is very tame
@mrditkovich5817
@mrditkovich5817 11 ай бұрын
@@C-Farsene_5If they lived centuries of repression they wouldn't be here to begin with. And even if Latvia got repressed, then it's not acceptable to begin with, and we cannot accept that a bullied person becomes the bully.
@C-Farsene_5
@C-Farsene_5 11 ай бұрын
@@mrditkovich5817 yeah..Latvia and the baltic states were held by Tsarist Russia and later the Soviet Union for a couple hundred years in total, some ethnic groups just hold out longer than others for example the Tatars which have been held by Russians since Ivan the Terrible's Kazan Wars. I get that Latvia shouldn't be so racist to a group who won't always be supportive of Putin's actions, it is a sad situation and hopefully (once Russia stops eyeing the baltics so hungrily) Latvia too would stop being so repressive of the Russians
@baldwintheanchorite
@baldwintheanchorite 11 ай бұрын
Historically important piece of work. Thank you to the reporter.
@fahqkitty
@fahqkitty 2 жыл бұрын
The way homie lost his magazine sums up the entire organization of Donetsk and Luhansk lmao
@markfuckerturd5165
@markfuckerturd5165 2 жыл бұрын
i love how they claim to be anti fascist but are super fascist
@presidentjames9811
@presidentjames9811 2 жыл бұрын
@Muslimcel How ironic look at what they've become, nothing better than NAZI Germany.
@joshshultz620
@joshshultz620 2 жыл бұрын
@@kobe4212 Bro this crowd is Jan. 6th all day, you live on a different planet
@moreadrenalin7252
@moreadrenalin7252 2 жыл бұрын
Its fascists against fascists there and both say only the other fascists are fascists hahahaha
@dylancampbell6433
@dylancampbell6433 2 жыл бұрын
@@kobe4212 interesting how you call Democrats fascists but it seems the only people trying to strip others of their personal liberties is the Republicans. Oklahoma just passed a ban on abortions and more states to follow, next it will be women's rights in general. Republicans are bonified ISIS and won't stop until there is Sharia Law. They are worst than Facists they are theocracats.
@xteb65
@xteb65 2 жыл бұрын
@@kobe4212 This looked just like January 6th. A bunch of corrupt angry people storming a government building.
@SirSpiderPig
@SirSpiderPig 2 жыл бұрын
“They are less than human.” “ They must die” who are they starting to sound like?
@stvk99
@stvk99 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZ-DgrmS17Wqep8.html
@waffenanime
@waffenanime Жыл бұрын
like ukrains
@mazamatov
@mazamatov 6 ай бұрын
need not worry anymore, the West has abandoned Ukraine.
@Amoore-vv9wx
@Amoore-vv9wx 5 ай бұрын
@@waffenanimebut they’re not Ukrainian. They’re anti-Ukrainian. What’s the point of your comment?
@Amoore-vv9wx
@Amoore-vv9wx 5 ай бұрын
@@waffenanime but they’re not Ukrainian. They don’t like ukraine. What’s the point of your comment?
@marekdubinak
@marekdubinak 4 ай бұрын
This is such a bullsh*t. I live in Slovakia and we have a lot of Hungarian people living on the south of the border. It is like they would decide to separate and claim the historical border ( when Slovakia was occupied by Hungarian Tatars). They would worship Orban, Hungary would provide military support and the civil war would began. Why they just did not move to Hungary (Russia). I understand that the corruption in Ukraine was on high level, and they have families in these places, but in Slovakia it is same. People of Donetsk republic, you are part of Ukraine if you like it or not. But people are fucked up in modern history.
@babayaga6321
@babayaga6321 3 ай бұрын
Tell that to people of Yugoslavia . They were able to split in 5 different countries no problem, so why these people can not. Besides that is historically Russian land and people living on that land made they choice to be one with their motherland.
@marekdubinak
@marekdubinak 3 ай бұрын
@@babayaga6321 yeah I understand the point, but I dont understand these people. In the Stalin ages he killed millions of Ukrainians because of starvation .. really why people there wanted to be Russian. Or they dont know their history?
@babayaga6321
@babayaga6321 3 ай бұрын
@@marekdubinak Those people are ethnic Russians living on their ancestral land . That belong to Russian empire ever since it took that land in battle from asiatic nomads during Catherine the great times. What Ukraine got to do with it?! Stalin did not starve Ukrainians specifically . Famine caused death of people all across USSR. That unfortunately happens during famine through out world history. Everyone else in former Soviet Union understands that, only Ukrainians are making a stink about it.
@drakker2116
@drakker2116 3 ай бұрын
@@marekdubinakStop with the Holodomor bullshit, there was no intentional starvation of Ukrainians in USSR, there was hunger in many regions at that time due to natural reasons.
@user-nv5ve9ld7t
@user-nv5ve9ld7t 3 ай бұрын
Tell that to Kosovo
@thekiltedkamper2855
@thekiltedkamper2855 Жыл бұрын
Notice those who support Ukraine are all young and the ones who don't are older.... Who has seen more since the fall of the USSR.
@kriptoinvestorreal
@kriptoinvestorreal 6 ай бұрын
USSR - famine
@ttemmowwkk
@ttemmowwkk 3 ай бұрын
notice that there were a lot af protests for ukraine in donetsk and luhansk in 2014, but russia did their best to stop those protests
@reedschrichte800
@reedschrichte800 2 ай бұрын
Seen what?
@nemetskiylager
@nemetskiylager 15 күн бұрын
​@@ttemmowwkk You are absolutely not competent. There was no Russian regular army in Donbass back in 2014.
@MrOlnev
@MrOlnev 9 жыл бұрын
мда... люди в масках слушают криминальный рэп, кидают камни в стариков и говорят о "независимости". печально все это.
@hohlipidori1986
@hohlipidori1986 2 ай бұрын
Буквально усраина
@superjpbourrin
@superjpbourrin 9 жыл бұрын
i love how these guys denounce the EU and its supporters as "fascists", yet they act like fascists... pff... there's not even freedom of speach..
@gabe5109
@gabe5109 5 жыл бұрын
In the name of diversity and political correctness in the UK they will put you down through hate speech laws and cut throat tactics for anything mildly offensive you say online, freedom of speech is dead practically in western europe thanks to leftist's and globalists in government, not to mention socialists who are not far fetched from actual communist's in ranking positions, they poison our western democracy's although i can agree with you they do indeed act like one party supporter's its not all that different in the EU now aday's for what id expect they would be willing to push next
@أدرار_ؤمعروف
@أدرار_ؤمعروف 3 жыл бұрын
freedom of speach gives the right for stupid people to speak up.
@onezerotwo
@onezerotwo 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if even 50% of the people in this video are still alive.
@EBatYouTube2manyads
@EBatYouTube2manyads 10 ай бұрын
How are they talking now?What has Russia brought for these idiots?Poverty,unemployment, mobilisation, crime,wars.They got what they deserved.
@melhiorlector2680
@melhiorlector2680 5 ай бұрын
А почему они должны быть мертвы?
@MORE_BEANS_PLZ
@MORE_BEANS_PLZ 4 ай бұрын
​@@melhiorlector2680 they're terrorists so it's better dead
@luckysnuf7509
@luckysnuf7509 3 ай бұрын
@@melhiorlector2680Ukie artillery
@aldozilli1293
@aldozilli1293 2 ай бұрын
I love all these referendums and elections in Russia and these 'Republics' always so fair, transparent and end in 80-90% in favour of Russia/Putin 😂
@OXY187
@OXY187 19 күн бұрын
yeah because the majority of the people are supporting him.
@russianfury2811
@russianfury2811 18 күн бұрын
@@OXY187 noohoo its because Putin bad!
@user-gf6wo3lb1i
@user-gf6wo3lb1i 16 күн бұрын
@@OXY187 Yeah, and “100%” its not fabricated and the percents of votes are already decided even before the referendum was even been announced. Remind me, how many presidents did russian federation had and how much Ukraine had? 2 VS 5. And I dont think that its because people of russia support Putin like if he’s their father. It smells really imperialistic.
@NicholasKlacsanzkyICM
@NicholasKlacsanzkyICM 9 жыл бұрын
If the people in Donetsk love Russia so much, then go there. It is a really big country that is right next to you. What is the need to start all this business in a tiny region in Ukraine and wage war with the Ukrainian army? Just hop over to your favorite country, Russia. I am sure Russia will be glad to have you. There is no sense in wasting all this energy and creating all this havoc. But most likely, all this revolution in Donetsk was made by the Russian government to tear apart Ukraine slowly and surely.
@nordsab1
@nordsab1 9 жыл бұрын
WTF- it all stated in Kiev whit maiden so please go study physics. Every action as equal opposite reaction. Mos of the east voted for last prez right?? Well there you go.
@NicholasKlacsanzkyICM
@NicholasKlacsanzkyICM 9 жыл бұрын
nordsab1 You mean wanting to oust a Pro-Russian Ukrainian President who was ordering to kill hundreds in the streets for protesting was wrong? Russian people who live in Ukraine should know they live in Ukraine, not Russia. If they love Russia so much more, they can go to Russia, instead of trying to create a new Russia in Ukraine. Even if a majority of people in the East voted for Yanukovitch, there is no need to make a new Russia in Ukraine. Ukrainians are very tolerant of Russians, are practically our brothers and sisters here. I live in Kiev, and half my family is Russian. A lot of families are this way in Ukraine. We can live together, not create New Russia in Ukraine just because they don't like a new government. All Ukrainians want is to live in peace and get on with their regular business of living normal lives.
@nordsab1
@nordsab1 9 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Klacsanzky well still you voted for some one and then some group comes and say we are going to do it this way now. So you won't have pissed people you say?? I would be pissed if some decide for me how my live is going to be. Right now it is too late you will never get the east back without tons of blood , if you wanted to save Ukraine you should gave them special economy rights and regional power as they asked before the firing of guns and declaration of a new state. Well if most voted for him meaning most don't want join the EU in the east then so how can they not make a new government without joining the EU, if that is what the rest want ?
@lol-zi1ym
@lol-zi1ym 9 жыл бұрын
nordsab1 "60% of the people living in Eastern Ukraine do not support the DNR and LNR's ideals" "79% of Eastern Ukrainians want a united Ukraine" Let the numbers speak for themselves.Eastern Ukraine didn't rebel.Russians who arrived in eastern Ukraine started the rebellion.
@nordsab1
@nordsab1 9 жыл бұрын
Lisovp Awesomelisovp But wait didn't the oppsition party win big in the east? From what i understand this is the former party of regions so i guess not everone is pro EU in your country.
@sandwitchi7
@sandwitchi7 5 жыл бұрын
29:14 It's just like something straight out of The Office.
@destubae3271
@destubae3271 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking we need a Donetsk People's Republic sitcom
@uros4925
@uros4925 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@ungbonhbot3662
@ungbonhbot3662 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they have talking heads like the office
@juuso2248
@juuso2248 11 ай бұрын
I hope those two student girls are safe. My heart is with them
@orcho141
@orcho141 10 ай бұрын
a bit of sanity in a sea of lunacy
@juuso2248
@juuso2248 10 ай бұрын
@@tuntematon_hiiri Ukrainan tukeminen on fasismia? Vitun pelle
@superiorshotgun4348
@superiorshotgun4348 9 ай бұрын
@@orcho141quite the opposite
@nicolais.4307
@nicolais.4307 8 ай бұрын
The horror of the situation is that pro-Ukrainian people moved to live in Mariupol and the suburbs of Kyiv. Where hell was in 2022.
@RololoTheOneAndOnly
@RololoTheOneAndOnly 7 ай бұрын
what a clown you are@@superiorshotgun4348
@colek2470
@colek2470 2 жыл бұрын
“We don’t want war or young guys dying for nothing” welp you got that now
@cannedstarfish6194
@cannedstarfish6194 2 жыл бұрын
They've been bombed for 8 years. This is not the beginning of the war, it is the end of it.
@shululu7572
@shululu7572 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@jamakasis18
@jamakasis18 9 жыл бұрын
NOW I FUCKING GET IT!!!!! I understand the whole "russian world" idea! You just have to connect 4 dots: Putin, Yanukovich, Post-Maidan Ukrainian gorverment and DNR(Or russians in general). Yanukovich was a crook and a thief and UA russians loved him, just like RF russians love Putin, who basically is the same, a crook and a thief. Ukrainians wanted to oust these thiefs out of their lives BUT DNR(Russians) revolted. Why? Because they stand for the same! Thievery, thugishness, corruption. And just look at the new "DNR" goverment! I mean people call russia mafia state, in that case i don't even know how to look at DNR, because atm they are leagues above RF at these things + the whole "wild wild west" mentality of their "goverment"(Thugs, nationalists, fortune soldiers, random drunkards, "cool guys", thieves - in summary people you wouldn't want to meet late at night on the street). Russians just love them and want to be governed by them. Now why they want that is anyones guess
@mrtittytwisterinlove
@mrtittytwisterinlove 9 жыл бұрын
No you didn't get it at all.. The "pro-western" leaders in Ukraine were as corrupt if not more as Yanukovich..
@anothercynicalbrit6451
@anothercynicalbrit6451 9 жыл бұрын
You are spot on mate, these people are not fighting for freedom, they already had it, i can give you a cast iron guarantee that the people in Ukraine have a lot more freedom of expression then the people now living in these places do. It was all bullshit, everyone who tries to stick up for these people will always throw the word Nazi in your face but that was just Russian propaganda the truth is the people of Ukraine wanted rid of a corrupt president and they got it. The people you see here stand for the kind of fucked up behavior that the real Ukrainians wanted to get rid of in the first place.
@anothercynicalbrit6451
@anothercynicalbrit6451 9 жыл бұрын
Konkurs Really, please explain how they are corrupt ??
@invgvrbo3051
@invgvrbo3051 9 жыл бұрын
What If,I say to u Ukranian goverment is Ukranian-nationalistic now,and Ukranian nationalists,don't like russians so much,so eastern Ukraine is fully russian,and they do,watch Russian TV,not Ukranian like in other regions.They support Russia,cuz Ukranian gov-t claimed 3months ago,that they are,going to ban russian language. I think they know what they are struggling for,and u r still blind,cuz u watch vice and vice don't show the situation at all.They show DPR as the empire of evil,and Ukraine as a young democratic country,things are not otherwise,but they are not like vice's describing.
@exip99
@exip99 9 жыл бұрын
Rebel Bo Ukrainian government is not nationalistic, you russian troll. I am Russian, I live in Ukraine and speak Russian since my childhood. Nobody ever banned me for Russian language. But russian propaganda always uses scary stories about ukrainian nationalists who will kill you just because you speak russian. This is complete bullshit. The fucked up russian TV was one of the reason of this war. With total lies It scarred people so much that they started to kill pro-ukrainian people. And what we see now? They totally ruined their own lives because of their stupidity and completely destroyed business and economics in their region. The main idea of DPR is robbing, stealing, killing and wearing the mask, telling stupid people that you're fighting against fascizm.
@lumithelapphund6990
@lumithelapphund6990 11 ай бұрын
And they call ukraine nazi
@nemetskiylager
@nemetskiylager 15 күн бұрын
Because it is Nazi state.
@ekaner117
@ekaner117 10 ай бұрын
Looking back. Maybe they should have sown for peace. Instead of, ya know, turning everything into rubble. Not to mention, most of these people are probably dead. I bet they didn't think this whole situation would have turned on its head as it did. I'd like to add, it seems most of the people wanting an "independent state" are around my parents age, or the "boomer generation".... When the camera pans to the crowd its mainly old people born in the Soviet Union.
@elchicogore9517
@elchicogore9517 10 ай бұрын
Ah yeah, sowning for peace when they would get murdered in the slightest protests by the police, how easy it is, right?
@naturalnonsense
@naturalnonsense 3 ай бұрын
Donbas “republics” have ultimately become states with pensioners as the privileged class. Everyone else is either one of the thugs, or left ether west or east.
@tarasyanish7854
@tarasyanish7854 7 жыл бұрын
29:26 Screw you guys, I'm going home!
@begi8542
@begi8542 5 жыл бұрын
Why are people so stupid? Did they forget? I'm Slav, and when I asked my grandfather how it was when Russians were occupating my country, he just shakes his head and told me that he wishes me never to know.
@jojojojo4332
@jojojojo4332 2 жыл бұрын
They sold there soul to the devil, thinking it was god.
@rodricksteal1729
@rodricksteal1729 2 жыл бұрын
'When Russians wre occupying my Nazi country, that demolished millions of Slavs, Russians weren't very nice :(' HAHAHHAHAHA
@ionbrad6753
@ionbrad6753 Жыл бұрын
@@rodricksteal1729 What Nazi country? Chechia? Yugoslavia? Tito fiercely protested Stalin for crimes and rapes committed by the Red Army on ALLIED Yugoslav territory. But Stalin wanted him to close look elsewhere, to pretend it never happened..
@kiki-zt8fz
@kiki-zt8fz 11 ай бұрын
oh, what Nazi Germany did on Russian territory cannot be compared with any other crimes. During the siege of Leningrad alone, which lasted more than 800 days, a million people died from hunger, cold and shelling.
@olgaromanova9549
@olgaromanova9549 4 ай бұрын
​@@ionbrad6753Rape? There's no way to prove that. Besides, we've had good relations with Serbia for a long time. We are brothers and sisters with them. There are indeed a lot of Nazis in Ukraine and they are in power who chose Nuland (there are phone records). What about how America bombed Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia and etc.?
@333maddoxtj333
@333maddoxtj333 Жыл бұрын
7:26 - are they seriously calling that old couple fascists while an entire mob is harassing them for having different beliefs? Who's the fascist? 10:23 - it's crazy how people can be so hypocrite to accuse Ukraine of being a fascist regime while there's stuff like this where any kind of political opposition, is destroyed and punished with violence. Quite literally like in Nazi germany or Fascist Italy
@AK-cp6br
@AK-cp6br Жыл бұрын
Keep crying, those territories are Russian.
@333maddoxtj333
@333maddoxtj333 Жыл бұрын
@@AK-cp6br - bruh I'm not crying, to be fair it seems like you're the one crying, I raised two perfectly reasonable points, to wich you can't or don't want to respond. Showing how close minded, biased and brainwashed you are. You can't even think with your own head. Use your eyes, at 7:26 a mob of people is throwing objects to an old couple while someone else shoves them, only because they have a different opinion. This is not a civil society, this is pure fascism, the complete lack of freedom of speech. The oppression through violence. At 10:23 they're straight up threatening him to break his legs. I honestly feel lucky I'm not as dumb as you lol
@Danielle-gs4uf
@Danielle-gs4uf 11 ай бұрын
@@AK-cp6brI often wonder if y’all realize how the world views you guys and the many comments similar to yours. You look like a maniac, a homicidal lunatic who, surprisingly, is also retarted. “Those territories are Russias forever”! What? Not one territory is fully occupied by Russia, and soon 2 will be fully occupied by Ukraine. I bet you’ve never even stepped foot on the territory you speak of. Now just imagine that your town was one of these territories and china held referendums with half the town and then declared it Chinese territory forever. Every day I see multiple comments like yours and it’s shocking. I’d really love for this to happen to you, so you can tell your story on KZfaq letting everyone know what’s going on, and hundreds of Chinese people in china blowing up your comments, ‘too bad! It’s chinas territory now-CRY MORE!!’
@tuyanaonnet5251
@tuyanaonnet5251 8 ай бұрын
Yep
@breezycheese3677
@breezycheese3677 8 ай бұрын
@@AK-cp6brNot anymore they’re not. 😂
@Nesphore1
@Nesphore1 Жыл бұрын
It's sad that kids are kind and reasonable than some adults are full of emotions.
@lam0bot
@lam0bot 9 жыл бұрын
Best part is 'security officer/offical' or whoever that thug is flailing his gun out of the window of his car, threatening some random dude on the road. Best way to explain what this DNR is in just 30 seconds. "Look, it is their head of security, do you have any more questions?"
9 жыл бұрын
Yep. I feel sad for those people.
@letsimage
@letsimage 10 ай бұрын
I think he described all ideology of putin: "rules exist for breaking them".
@DMlTREl
@DMlTREl 8 ай бұрын
​@@letsimage Sounds more like NATO
@letsimage
@letsimage 8 ай бұрын
do your own research about concrete cases @@DMlTREl
@miguelmatos9508
@miguelmatos9508 7 ай бұрын
Seems like Budanov
@AIRFORCEFREAK1
@AIRFORCEFREAK1 9 жыл бұрын
If these people truly believed what they were doing was the best for their people and country they wouldn't wear masks and ask cameras to go away.
@haemse
@haemse 2 жыл бұрын
And do referendums without external supervision ...
@abdelhakwinston6200
@abdelhakwinston6200 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@abdelhakwinston6200
@abdelhakwinston6200 2 жыл бұрын
u dont hide ur face from ur ppl u hide it from ur enemy
@saccorhytus
@saccorhytus Жыл бұрын
@@abdelhakwinston6200 Yeah exactly
@sir7819
@sir7819 9 ай бұрын
Советую посмотреть на основных участников майдана. Спасибо
@BuckFiden33
@BuckFiden33 2 жыл бұрын
How do you loose a magazine 💀💀💀
@andrewvantassel8191
@andrewvantassel8191 Ай бұрын
Watching this in 2024 makes me extremely angry as an American knowing that my tax money is wasted on meddling in a civil war on the other side of the world.
@user-mk4hp9ls2r
@user-mk4hp9ls2r 25 күн бұрын
Yeah, The US spent about 250 billion dollars on that war, while you don't have free healthcare
@DDOD25
@DDOD25 11 күн бұрын
@@user-mk4hp9ls2r $175 bn* as of today, not 250 and most of it is not cash money but surplus military equipment. meanwhile Russia has spent $205bn. get your numbers right. Americans should not be spending their money on other countries' wars, but Russia should not invade smaller countries forcing NATO and UN to protect them.
@Subscribers-gj6oy
@Subscribers-gj6oy 6 жыл бұрын
RIP he lost his favorite beating stick, I feel bad for him.
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 2 жыл бұрын
So sad he can’t beat people with it. So sad. :(
@ribeiroz78
@ribeiroz78 2 жыл бұрын
29:37 "politics is a prostitute. It goes with whoever pays more" I think we've found the main motivation of the Donetsk separatists...
@spacecommie7447
@spacecommie7447 2 жыл бұрын
Russia has therefore successfully bribed 4 million people in the Donbass? Props to them
@Ivan-pq9xs
@Ivan-pq9xs 11 ай бұрын
they wanted to live so independently that their flag consists of Russian flag's colour and as you have seen what country they joined in the end. this is true independence?
@cauagabriel4761
@cauagabriel4761 7 ай бұрын
They made the flag, didn't they? It's similar, but is it the same? If they are seeking independence it is because they have their reasons, if they want to join the Russian Federation, it is because Russia is superior to Ukraine in all aspects, economic, educational, cultural, etc. The fact is that, without the support of Western leaders, Ukraine would not exist today, and will probably cease to exist soon, also due to the deficit in the birth rate. Furthermore, I am a Westerner, but I will never support the taxes that we Westerners pay being used to finance the war of you Ukrainians, even though military financing is starting to lose strength after the failed counter-attack by the Ukrainians.
@JoeSmith-sl9bq
@JoeSmith-sl9bq 3 ай бұрын
They wanted to be independent from Ukraine, not Russia. Problem?
@jasong1713
@jasong1713 11 ай бұрын
Need some denazification in these regions
@CD-lp3fh
@CD-lp3fh Ай бұрын
Agree
@Cookinlikesanji
@Cookinlikesanji 18 күн бұрын
​@@CD-lp3fhlol by Ukraine? No shot
@pedromaurutto
@pedromaurutto 15 күн бұрын
Looks like they were already working on it: On 11:18 you can see the photo of the pro Ukrainians holding the black and red flag, it's a nationalist and fascist flag tied to the Bandera movement, these guys are real nazis. It even looks like the guy in orange is doing a nazi salute, tho it's too small to tell for sure.
@HeilLoki
@HeilLoki 9 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Scotland nobody was threatend, beaten or killed because he/she wanted to stay with Britain.
@HappyDaClown187
@HappyDaClown187 6 жыл бұрын
If this doesn't open your eyes to how fragile this world really is. At any minute we could be back in world war and for next to nothing.
@tylerchristensen5067
@tylerchristensen5067 2 жыл бұрын
comment aged well
@htatesil4192
@htatesil4192 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to Americans
@kylechetram915
@kylechetram915 Жыл бұрын
@@htatesil4192 thanks to russian aggression, always trying to upend the world order.
@apokkalyps6
@apokkalyps6 11 ай бұрын
​@@htatesil4192americans dont even know where ukraine is on a map, the terrorist country right next to ukraine and their fascist Z ombies are a disgrace to humanity and the cause of every war and land grab in the 21st century in this region
@kafiamadeus7351
@kafiamadeus7351 2 жыл бұрын
28:40 +99999 social credit
@hyp77
@hyp77 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, with Russia you will get a bright future in the stone age.....lol
@SoryRN
@SoryRN 2 жыл бұрын
You don't know what stone age means
@stvk99
@stvk99 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like Europe next winter😂
@bober9989
@bober9989 9 жыл бұрын
“The Fascists of the future will be the anti-fascists.”
@wach9191
@wach9191 9 жыл бұрын
I love your picture!
@tugaa24
@tugaa24 5 жыл бұрын
Portuguese turbant? Lol explain that
@Bagfullofcrabs1
@Bagfullofcrabs1 9 жыл бұрын
If this is not nazism then I don't know what is.
@DeepfriedNutz
@DeepfriedNutz 9 жыл бұрын
Well, it's certainly not nazism. But it's definetly authoritarian nationalism.
@asdd1000
@asdd1000 9 жыл бұрын
you dont know for sure
@DeepfriedNutz
@DeepfriedNutz 9 жыл бұрын
Bag full of crabs. Of course there are similarities, just as there are many differences. But you can't label every far-right nationalist movement as being National Socialist just because you feel like it. Because Nazism is an ideology built on very specific ideas which permeates all aspects of the political system.
@lanciadr
@lanciadr 9 жыл бұрын
No it's not Nazism. It's a society of thieves. I don't want to badmouth Donetsk, but a great chunk of those people are descendent from criminals. And most of them are criminals themselves. Why? Well, there a lot of prisons there during the Soviet times, and instead of letting them roam around in a cell, them sent them to mine coal. I mean there are still a lot of normal people in Donetsk but they are not a majority.
@YogiG209
@YogiG209 9 жыл бұрын
Jews
@VicusBass
@VicusBass 10 ай бұрын
Most of these thugs are roting somewhere in the fields
@lAljax
@lAljax 10 ай бұрын
Jesus, rusky mir is even worse than I expected.
@ludaivanova7916
@ludaivanova7916 3 ай бұрын
Haha, is Russian Mir bad because it helps people who wants be with Russia be with Russia ?
@heartpaid6767
@heartpaid6767 2 ай бұрын
​@@ludaivanova7916orcs go back to moscow orcbot, people there wanted to live free lives. ruZZia planting a coup is none of their interest.
@Collus
@Collus 2 ай бұрын
​@@ludaivanova7916 Then make them pack their things to corrupt Russia lol, if they want to be under Russia, let them move there
@cyberbiscottato
@cyberbiscottato 9 жыл бұрын
They declare to fight fascism, while they act as fascists towards those ones who don't share their opinions. Pretty ridiculous.
@truelife1060
@truelife1060 2 жыл бұрын
You need to watch the Vice News series Russian Rilette and there is the true evidence since 2014 not justa war but a systematic genocide of modern times.
@stvk99
@stvk99 2 жыл бұрын
sorry for the late reply, but they are absolutely justified in that. they're at war with official government of Ukraine. for example, OSCE has been spying on Donbass for years, people got killed because of that... plus this documentary obviously wants to paint them as crazy separatists. there's always two sides in every story.
@truelife1060
@truelife1060 2 жыл бұрын
@@stvk99 I know how the west lies on their very experts even in courts. The main media is full of lies and propaganda of thier agenda. The nazis it is now normalised on NATO and US. Britain doesn't even practice democracy but autocracy with power transferred by inheritance. You have to analyse and see the evidence. The main media distorts the turth and hides what could thraten tehir agenda, the true they call misinformation. They don't care anymore as they are already on their last mission invasion to Russia. Ukrainia was always on that objective as the excuse to attack Russia vast natural resources like hyenas all against one.
@reanimationeas342
@reanimationeas342 Жыл бұрын
Irony of the Russian invaders
@saccorhytus
@saccorhytus Жыл бұрын
@@reanimationeas342 They aren't invading, they live there.
@aloston
@aloston 9 жыл бұрын
Great work! Very informative as well as entertaining - I couldn't stop laughing at 8:20 where they started painting their own flag the wrong way and couldn't spell "referendum". And, the episode where Roma tries to shoot out of his car window and finds out that he has forgotten his ammo - priceless!
@user-ou9qd9no5n
@user-ou9qd9no5n 2 жыл бұрын
I hope everyone who created this abscess on the body of my country is now in hell, which is quite likely with the Russian policy of destroying those involved.
@DialecticalMaterialismRocks
@DialecticalMaterialismRocks 2 жыл бұрын
Long live the DPR
@orcastudio4765
@orcastudio4765 2 жыл бұрын
Donetsk:"Donetsk People's Republic" Ukrainian Hyrvnia -50000
@Eikenhorst
@Eikenhorst 2 жыл бұрын
That was just hilarious! True nationalist willing to die for a flag they don't know how it looks like even. Weird, to say the least
@ssach7
@ssach7 2 жыл бұрын
@@DialecticalMaterialismRocks DPR is Putin's invention
@Blaz_-te2ku
@Blaz_-te2ku 3 ай бұрын
We had this in Croatia in the 90s. They invaded instantly after we seceded from Yugoslavia, claiming to protect Serbian-speaking areas (languages are the same, Serbian is just simplified Croatian, as their grammar was printed 200+ years after ours and the language misses some complicated rules and regulations, making it effectively rural Croatian). In the end, we expunged their entire population from our country without committing a massacre. Best thing we ever did. Remember that ethnic cleansing and genocide are not the same thing. Ethnic cleansing can be very justified and can be done without a drop of blood. A few people knew back then it was Russia's tactics. Use a huge federation (Yugoslavia, USSR) and seed your population all over it's republics so that one day you can claim the territory as your own. This is how Serbia attempted to secure a coastline but ended up landlocked and bombed by NATO. I predicted the war in Ukraine at my university (history course) in 2009. I compared the case to Serbia, to which people, including the professor who has a doctorate in modern history, laughed at me hysterically.
@tomislavtodorovic2254
@tomislavtodorovic2254 3 ай бұрын
ne spomenu ni jednom rjecju, Jasenovac, Prebilovce , Jadovno , Pag , Livno , bezbroj hercegovackih i hrvatskih jama gde leze neduzne srpske zene i deca , poklani od zlocinacke hrvatsko-ustaske ruke , ti historicaru.
@CaveDog420
@CaveDog420 11 ай бұрын
crazy how most of the people in this video are probably dead now
@grimmerjxcts2206
@grimmerjxcts2206 5 ай бұрын
You mean the Ukrainians who fought them 😂
@CaveDog420
@CaveDog420 5 ай бұрын
alright lil bro whatever u say lmfao. both lpr and dpr elements have pretty much been completely destroyed since shortly after the full scale invasion@@grimmerjxcts2206
@Zenovarse
@Zenovarse 5 жыл бұрын
3:38 Santa claus is coming to town
@GalacticExplorer83
@GalacticExplorer83 Жыл бұрын
Lmao😂
@nick_pappagiorgio
@nick_pappagiorgio 9 жыл бұрын
I like the Soviet-style interrogation by the pro-Russia commissar who takes the kids' stickers, goes through their cell phones and threatens to beat them with batons all while his brave henchmen hide behind masks.
@malicboba
@malicboba 11 ай бұрын
Отличие от украинского в том , что украинский не угрожает, а бьёт, а здесь просто серьёзная беседа. Знаете, а это очень не маленькая разница.
@pykakpa6a84
@pykakpa6a84 10 ай бұрын
​@@malicbobaгарне порівняння, але воно тільки на словах. А докази, або відео є тільки про допити сепарів. Так само як зараз, російські війська ріжуть та гвалтуют і навіть не соромляться це знімати та оприлюднювати.
@rmdomainer9042
@rmdomainer9042 7 ай бұрын
@@malicboba Shush vatnik. We have seen what you people do to others.
@alararkadas92111
@alararkadas92111 7 ай бұрын
​@@pykakpa6a84 and the ukrainians aren't doing the same thing...? Rhetorical question.
@andrewgreen1940
@andrewgreen1940 11 ай бұрын
No such place, Russian occupied Ukraine.
@TheHeatExchang3
@TheHeatExchang3 11 ай бұрын
Just think about those old fools who beloved in Russia now …. Houses gone probably dead. Nice one
@TheDethBringer666
@TheDethBringer666 9 жыл бұрын
So basically, Russians kicked out the local rebels and moved in the little green men.
@TheDethBringer666
@TheDethBringer666 9 жыл бұрын
***** Truly revolutionary. What next, deporting Ukranians to North Korean labor camps in some dictator oppression exchange program?
@sergeishamanski8531
@sergeishamanski8531 9 жыл бұрын
Actually 'the little green men' were in Crimea. And they had the right to be there 'cause of treaty between Ukraine and Russia that was about naval bases. There in Donetsk locals made everything by themselves hoping Russsia will send them troops. But that would be illegal. So there is no russian army in Donetsk. Only volunteers from Russia, France, Afganistan and some other countries. Why everyone blames Putin for the shit made by Obama in Ukraine? That's Obama who said americans are exceptional nation and only USA has the right to decide what is right and what is wrong in the world. Look there guys! There's your agressor who sent Blackwater into Ukraine in winter. Of course these guys are private military. But they are taking part in every conflict US started in the world. Speaking of which, would you remind me how many conflicts were started by Russia that are not near russian border-line?
@peterjj1991
@peterjj1991 9 жыл бұрын
Sergei Shamanski Have you seen the people who showed up at 31:56 ? Because they were Russian soldiers. BTW, the treaty didn't include the seizure of Ukrainian government buildings in Crimea so they were acting criminally as well, just look at VICE videos from that time.
@Bishop38f8
@Bishop38f8 9 жыл бұрын
Sergei Shamanski The treaty covers naval bases in Sevastopol, not government buildings and Ukranian military bases in Crimea. Talking about treaties, Russia signed a treaty as well in 1994 Budapest Memorandums - "1.The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine; 2.The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations;" And isn't it kind of strange how all the supposed local officials are all russians? Also - ura.ru/content/chel/01-10-2014/articles/1036263086.html - 90% of the squad are Russians, locals don't want to fight, they fled or are hiding. This is no civil war, never was. Had Russia not intervened, Ukraine could have had a new government already. And if there was some concern in East Ukraine the elected local officials could have negotiated with the central government. I am going to pose this question to you. If an armed group of rebels sprung inside of Russia, claimed a bit of land and called it their sovereign country, A - Do you think Russia would use armed forces to reclaim their land? B - Do you think they would be right to do so? Now me personally, the answer to both is yes.
@sergeishamanski8531
@sergeishamanski8531 9 жыл бұрын
Petr Jaroch Have you seen troopers in crimean operation? Now compare them to this people.
@Muggawumps
@Muggawumps 9 жыл бұрын
Is the DPR just a country-wide reality-show?
@lihwak9181
@lihwak9181 4 жыл бұрын
Muggawumps Im from LPR and yes, kind of
@neskhalifafbb
@neskhalifafbb Жыл бұрын
So basically Ukraine is keeping these people hostage.
@Ragnarswe
@Ragnarswe Жыл бұрын
If this is the second biggest city in Ukraine before the invasion and over 80% of the people voted yes in the referendum. Looking at the footage, is not that many that are joining in.
@user-ec1dw1dp9u
@user-ec1dw1dp9u 9 ай бұрын
Its Not, the Video even Said Second biggest in eastern Ukraine.
@randomusernamemygod
@randomusernamemygod 9 жыл бұрын
33:48 Probably the best quote of the entire conflict. Now a legacy of hatred, anger and violence will be left behind and inherited for the little kids of Ukraine, Russia, EU and Malaysia.
@bengchiatseah3908
@bengchiatseah3908 3 жыл бұрын
@Gabe Itch was wondering about that too... wonder if it has anything to do with the downing of their commercial jet?
@StolasTheBabyOwl
@StolasTheBabyOwl 3 жыл бұрын
@@bengchiatseah3908 Because Our Citizens Are Killed In The Conflict Bruh
@user-lz5wf
@user-lz5wf 2 жыл бұрын
@Eminem MH17 plane, a Malaysian civilian aircraft was downed by the DPR
@revolter7094
@revolter7094 2 жыл бұрын
He was talking about the USSR not the joke of a "country" Ukraine is.
@sillytu6639
@sillytu6639 2 жыл бұрын
@@StolasTheBabyOwl Your fault
@foxius5847
@foxius5847 9 жыл бұрын
LOL Lenin is like screw you guys i'm going home xD
@thisisntsergio1352
@thisisntsergio1352 2 жыл бұрын
29:14
@simongb7897
@simongb7897 Ай бұрын
Who would want to live under Russian rule, Poland, Czech Republic, I've been over many times and they appreciate and will fight for their freedom more than we do. I feel for the youngsters.
@Aleksa_Lomako
@Aleksa_Lomako Ай бұрын
millions of Ukrainians prefer Russia and its our past
@simongb7897
@simongb7897 Ай бұрын
@@Aleksa_Lomako Really, doubt that, so how many out of the 37 million Ukranians do you think would want to live under Russian rule?
@s_bandera
@s_bandera 13 күн бұрын
@@simongb7897it was up to 30% during 2013-2014 and through out the war the numbers were declining, now I would say it’s less than 5%
@skaterpulse6746
@skaterpulse6746 Жыл бұрын
"We dont want war or young people dying for nothing" I bring terrible news
@danieldoneski9666
@danieldoneski9666 3 жыл бұрын
"Politics is like a prostitute, it goes with whoever pays more." Only half smart thing ive heard from these separtists.
@heidyguzman6623
@heidyguzman6623 2 жыл бұрын
z
@danieldoneski9666
@danieldoneski9666 2 жыл бұрын
@@heidyguzman6623 z is your swastika
@reanimationeas342
@reanimationeas342 Жыл бұрын
That quote is 100% true
@badtuber1654
@badtuber1654 4 ай бұрын
Russian Seperastists or Nazis Ukranian NAtionalists take your pick. End of the day they all have Russian families. they are all RU.
@AJudgeFredd
@AJudgeFredd 9 жыл бұрын
"They are monsters. Less than human. They must die." That sounds really fucking familiar.
@revolter7094
@revolter7094 3 жыл бұрын
Yes same to what the Ukrainian army is saying and their nationalist groups.
@deeremies2266
@deeremies2266 3 жыл бұрын
@@marxismfeminismmaoism9408 surely you are joking
@smtandearthboundsuck8400
@smtandearthboundsuck8400 Ай бұрын
Free Donetsk from Ukrainian occupation!
@nemetskiylager
@nemetskiylager 15 күн бұрын
It is free now
@filatzaika3915
@filatzaika3915 13 күн бұрын
Ukranian occupation what?
@nemetskiylager
@nemetskiylager 13 күн бұрын
@@filatzaika3915 Yes, Ukrainian occupation. It is not their territories
@testspb4827
@testspb4827 12 күн бұрын
​​​​​​​​​​​​​​@@filatzaika3915т.н. "Украина" оккупировала эту территорию у Украинской ССР в составе СССР, совершив государственный переворот в августе 1991 года против демократической воли большинства граждан СССР, высказанной на Всесоюзном референдуме 27 марта 1991 года. Эти их враждебные действия по отношению ко всем советским гражданам (а в Советском Союзе, как известно, было одно и единственное государственное гражданство) также подтверждает их т.н. "акт провозглашения независимости". Занятно, что первым государством, признавшим независимость этой т.н. "Украины" были США, т.е. это говорит также о враждебных действиях по отношению ко всем советским гражданам с этой стороны. Также известно, что в том же году из США на Украину выдвинулись т.н. "члены Правительства УНР" - нацистские пособники во ВМВ. Интересно то, что новое правительство т.н. "Украины" и эти наци-пособники стали сразу же работать вместе. О как.
@tilqibiumplays6325
@tilqibiumplays6325 7 күн бұрын
Russian vatnik​@@testspb4827
@spencerchef
@spencerchef 9 жыл бұрын
I thought America was fucked. Glad to see Russia is much worse off
@zeonmx
@zeonmx 9 жыл бұрын
America is still fucked.
@nilesrock024
@nilesrock024 9 жыл бұрын
We're all fucked.
@spencerchef
@spencerchef 9 жыл бұрын
***** No, but all this was caused by Russia. When they decided to invade a sovereign country.
@MultiSlawa
@MultiSlawa 9 жыл бұрын
how is russia fucked ? this conflict is happening in Ukraine, but you propably don't even know where that is.
@nilesrock024
@nilesrock024 9 жыл бұрын
offizieller Kirchenjesus Check out their current economic situation. That's how. ... Not that this video actually shows anything to do with that, mind you.
@1160168
@1160168 Жыл бұрын
May the armed forces of Ukraine liberate Donetsk from these pro Russian creeps.
@Svistov
@Svistov Жыл бұрын
May russia liberate Alaska from those dirty little Yankees
@CoiboiXD
@CoiboiXD Жыл бұрын
​@@SvistovThe difference is that, Alaska was given to the US, it barely had anyone, and oil wasnt even a priority in the past, and the US wasnt a superpower, the British were. The US and Russia were allies at those times, thats the difference, stop smoking too much Kremlin bs.
@SimulacronX
@SimulacronX Жыл бұрын
FREE DONBASS FROM WESTERN FASCISM
@mr.chernobyl7353
@mr.chernobyl7353 Жыл бұрын
FREE PALESTINE FROM ZELENSKY
@DuandaleQingle
@DuandaleQingle 11 ай бұрын
FREE ABKHAZIA AND SOUTH OSSETIA FROM BIDEN
@joebiden9979
@joebiden9979 8 ай бұрын
FREE THE POPE FROM SOUTH SUDAN
@thermonuclearpotato556
@thermonuclearpotato556 7 ай бұрын
truly a relic of an era. ive been a kid when crimea has been annexed and I still remember wathcing bout the crimea's annexation on TV, when I've been on 6th grade. so much time has passed..
@plantman5126
@plantman5126 9 жыл бұрын
I love the part where the fascists are singing "Fascism will be defeated". All you have to do is see who is threatening death if you support the other side and sings songs about war.
@ArcticSlicer
@ArcticSlicer 9 жыл бұрын
Yep, a classic case of projection.
@1803SmAsh
@1803SmAsh 9 жыл бұрын
papabear5766 are u a fascist agent?
@Onneukbaar
@Onneukbaar 6 жыл бұрын
Adam G Ukraine fascist
@MrShadyFigure
@MrShadyFigure 9 жыл бұрын
That guy at 12:00 is gonna be really disappointed when people get beaten in Russia for expressing their opinions and are guilty until proven more guilty.
@s111stock
@s111stock 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of trump's MAGAmob attack on the US Capitol.
@barischh0
@barischh0 Жыл бұрын
Слава Новороссия!
@mr.chernobyl7353
@mr.chernobyl7353 Жыл бұрын
where novorossiya ? biden will groom you if you dont respond within 3 minutes where is old russia too
@sgiovanny39j
@sgiovanny39j 2 жыл бұрын
Why do the people running the so called "Donetsk People's Republic" remind me of Trailer Park Boys
@jacekneumann6491
@jacekneumann6491 9 жыл бұрын
USSR also claimed to "just fight with fascism"...
@Unbrutal_Rawr
@Unbrutal_Rawr 9 жыл бұрын
While doing what instead?
@jacekneumann6491
@jacekneumann6491 9 жыл бұрын
Sobakus Well, they of course helped with winning the WW2, but they used anti-fascism card to excuse all their crimes against humanity like sending democratic leaders to prisons or camps. That's the problem of totalitarian systems - it's always someone else to blame for wrongdoings of the government. They always have to have an enemy.
@silviyatsvetanova4613
@silviyatsvetanova4613 9 жыл бұрын
Sobakus Like taking over countries like mine - Bulgaria. Forcing us to pay contributions, and be thankful for putting us on our knees for the last 70+ years. Acting worse than the fascists themselves.
@Unbrutal_Rawr
@Unbrutal_Rawr 9 жыл бұрын
Jacek Neumann Fair point. Silviya Tsvetanova Could you elaborate on the points you've just made? I'm not aware of any forced payments, any knee-putting or, indeed, anything worse than what the fascists did happening in Bulgaria during the Soviet rule.
@tank_3487
@tank_3487 9 жыл бұрын
Those peoples lived much better during USSR. Much more were killed by democracy in Ukraine, than commies.
@Facetrouble
@Facetrouble 10 ай бұрын
Забавно смотреть на молодежь и пенсионеров которые говорят что о них будут заботится. Ну как вам теперь заботится о вас Россия? Отправила всех на мясо. В донецке мужчин не осталось
@user-vq1fv8ji7s
@user-vq1fv8ji7s 10 ай бұрын
Че свин как там контрнахрюк?
@id99q
@id99q 10 ай бұрын
@@user-vq1fv8ji7sбалаболок забыли спросить
@user-xh6iv6gc8w
@user-xh6iv6gc8w 5 ай бұрын
I'm reviewing it in '24. The country collapsed, the constitution did not work. Donbass had no choice but to return to Russia so that they could survive in this fascist country
@dAMMDb
@dAMMDb 9 жыл бұрын
6:45 Ukraine/EU: Hot girls Novorossiya: Old soviet nostalgic aggressive thugs
@vanceofthetube
@vanceofthetube 16 күн бұрын
Hot girls? They are kids. And you notice the old women and if they were so oppressed like western media says, why is it that they want to unite with Russia? Maybe you people know better than the people who lived under Russian rule.
@PinkPantherPunk
@PinkPantherPunk 9 жыл бұрын
"Stalin did at lot of good things" uh, ok
@command_unit7792
@command_unit7792 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah he did...Before him the Soviet Union had the industrial capacity a fraction that of Germany(A few years after after ww1) In 1938 The soviet union was equal in its industrial capacity to Germany(just before WW2) He might have achieved results in fairly Pragmatic means but that doesn't mean he didn't achieved good results sometimes...Focusing Always on the negative is not a good thing if you look at all historical leaders you will find many times a more balanced picture then what was made in the education system...
@PinkPantherPunk
@PinkPantherPunk 9 жыл бұрын
***** you know who else wasnt to bad eh?
@command_unit7792
@command_unit7792 9 жыл бұрын
Rémi Gauthier I am not saying he wasnt bad but saying he didn't do anything good is a lie...
@Rio8D
@Rio8D 9 жыл бұрын
***** You do realize the same thing could be said for Hitler right?
@command_unit7792
@command_unit7792 9 жыл бұрын
Rio8D Yes i know...I just hate propaganda...Its my own pet piev...
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