The Doomsday Algorithm - Numberphile

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2 жыл бұрын

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@mzadro7
@mzadro7 2 жыл бұрын
That “wowie” made James sound like the most un-surprised surprised person in the world
@bryantg8749
@bryantg8749 2 жыл бұрын
He's always the type of person that makes you go "wow" and you agree with him as you say it to yourself.
@MarkWatney
@MarkWatney 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ron said it too during the first train trip in Harry Potter and The Philosopher's Stone.
@kristianemilkjrgaard531
@kristianemilkjrgaard531 2 жыл бұрын
Or like Mr. Poopy-Butthole from Rick and Morty
@spacebusdriver
@spacebusdriver 2 жыл бұрын
sounded exactly like wilburgur ngl
@oscargill423
@oscargill423 2 жыл бұрын
"Oh wow what a surprise I wasn't expecting that at all"
@minigrok
@minigrok 2 жыл бұрын
John Conway, the mathematician who made up this algorithm, used it as his login for his computer at his office at Princeton. The computer would give him 10 random dates in any century and would not let him log in unless he got them all correctly in under 40 seconds. He managed to do all 10 in about 15 seconds.
@asterism343
@asterism343 2 жыл бұрын
how do you know
@charlieangkor8649
@charlieangkor8649 2 жыл бұрын
that's not very secure
@theterribleanimator1793
@theterribleanimator1793 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlieangkor8649 but it is cool.
@minigrok
@minigrok 2 жыл бұрын
​@@asterism343 Conway showed me, I'm just relaying first-hand info. His main research assistant also did the same. This was around 1995.
@minigrok
@minigrok 2 жыл бұрын
@@topherthe11th23 Yes, it was 10 dates not 15. I edited it now.
@Cubeorithms
@Cubeorithms 2 жыл бұрын
This is crazy, after less than an hour of practice I'm getting it right almost every time. Those leap years are tricky though
@jasmintoromanovic5975
@jasmintoromanovic5975 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@PlutosMusic
@PlutosMusic 2 жыл бұрын
bro ur really copying and pasting your comment
@theevauwu7853
@theevauwu7853 2 жыл бұрын
I still can't get the anchor year to work I keep getting it wrong
@PerspectiveInsightReviews
@PerspectiveInsightReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, I can't believe it's so easy
@mahiiii2112
@mahiiii2112 2 жыл бұрын
i have a doubt, how to know how many leap years to add 10:41.. im really confused please help me
@blakehagins3069
@blakehagins3069 2 жыл бұрын
doomsdays: 3:35 calculate doomsday for arbitrary year: 6:21 day of week to number conversion: 8:13 doomsday century landmarks: 9:25
@Dr.Cassio_Esteves
@Dr.Cassio_Esteves 2 жыл бұрын
Up
@davidroddini1512
@davidroddini1512 2 жыл бұрын
He shows how to calculate for dates AFTER 2000. I can do that. Trying to go back I have to actually count the leap years 1996, 1992, 1988, etc or I get the dates wrong. What am I missing? Why is it not working doing subtraction instead of addition?
@collinvanweelden5242
@collinvanweelden5242 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidroddini1512 you have to subtract a leap year every time you go back by a multiple of 4 but starting at one. That is because 1999 to 2000 is a leap year so going back you have to go back a leap year also
@jaysonsvan6092
@jaysonsvan6092 Жыл бұрын
I don't get the day of week to number conversion... I understand better with examples😅 can anyone help me out?
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 Жыл бұрын
@@jaysonsvan6092 Monday is 1, Tuesday 2. Sunday is 7th and last, reduce mod 7 to get 0.
@TomRocksMaths
@TomRocksMaths 2 жыл бұрын
YES James is back. Mr Numberphile
@thatguyalex2835
@thatguyalex2835 2 жыл бұрын
James is the reason I watch Numberphile, as well as the fact that this channel has pretty informative math content. :)
@fariesz6786
@fariesz6786 2 жыл бұрын
the number of people associated with numberphile who i have a man-crush on is improbably high xD
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 2 жыл бұрын
The very first Numberphile presenter is back!
@Triantalex
@Triantalex 5 ай бұрын
false.
@renerpho
@renerpho 2 жыл бұрын
9:00 Note this is for the Gregorian Calendar, so be careful with early dates. For England, the calendar change took place in 1752, so this method only works for dates starting in 1753. For Russia, dates prior to 1918 don't work, for the same reason.
@davidkim6673
@davidkim6673 2 жыл бұрын
But all you have to do is just to remember a different century date schemes, and you can convert to a Julian calendar!
@renerpho
@renerpho 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidkim6673 To some extent, yes. But you'll also have to know which calendar applies, and that's highly dependent on where the event in question took place. Especially on the European continent, the time when territories changed calendars can vary by several centuries between neighbouring towns. There are tables that tell you what date which town made the switch, but try to memorize hundreds, if not thousands of entries...
@cOmAtOrAn
@cOmAtOrAn 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidkim6673 The real difficulty is memorizing when every country in the world converted to the Gregorian calendar. And it is something that would have to be memorized, there's no pattern to be picked up on.
@renerpho
@renerpho 2 жыл бұрын
Of course you could circumvent the difficulty, by asking the person whether their date is Julian or Gregorian.
@TheOneAndOnlyOuuo
@TheOneAndOnlyOuuo 2 жыл бұрын
@@renerpho I live in an environment where coming in contact with the Julian calendar is an every day thing even today. You're free to guess where I live ;)
@alistairkentucky-david9344
@alistairkentucky-david9344 2 жыл бұрын
“He remembered that 0 is a 0”. Well that just confirms that memorising this whole algorithm is above my pay grade.
@kranziodelfantastico7433
@kranziodelfantastico7433 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved the little Numberphile thumbnail caricatures that manage to be both recognizable and strangely unsettling.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever the artist is is perfect for the channel.
@somedudeok1451
@somedudeok1451 2 жыл бұрын
Especially when it has the word "Doomsday" written next to it. I was sure this video was gonna be a lot darker than it turned out to be.
@ChristainGuyOfAction
@ChristainGuyOfAction 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the term is "uncanny valley."
@drenz1523
@drenz1523 2 жыл бұрын
And James' caricature is the most uncanny, just starring at me
@mr.joesterr5359
@mr.joesterr5359 2 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail for this video is an absolute monstrosity from the darkest trenches of the abyss itself
@davidfalterman8713
@davidfalterman8713 2 жыл бұрын
James coming through with the NUMBERWANG reference at the end killed me 💀
@cloudstrife1983
@cloudstrife1983 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@ericwiddison7523
@ericwiddison7523 2 жыл бұрын
Now let's rotate the board!
@YourCrazyOverlord
@YourCrazyOverlord 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget your Numberhosen
@thetooginator153
@thetooginator153 2 жыл бұрын
I am proud to be an American who knows what Numberwang is (and Colosson!).
@atrusx8232
@atrusx8232 2 жыл бұрын
The comment I was looking for.
@Leo-if5tn
@Leo-if5tn 2 жыл бұрын
I really apreaciate when this channel presents James, hope he returns more often
@papafreddy2123
@papafreddy2123 2 жыл бұрын
One of the neatest party tricks I've ever seen, maths being fun as usual
@somedudeok1451
@somedudeok1451 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Had a friend once that would always bust out some intriguing riddles and tricks at parties and I loved that guy. Somehow these tricks are even more impressive when you're drunk. :)
@user-sg1kc5jx8c
@user-sg1kc5jx8c 2 жыл бұрын
Hey can you tell me how to subtract dates? For example they say 8th February. How do I get from 28(doomsday) on a non leap year to the day of the week?
@mblada4514
@mblada4514 2 жыл бұрын
​@@user-sg1kc5jx8c if the 28th is a doomsday, the 7th will also be a doomsday(because going back 7 days doesnt change the day of the week), so the 8th will be one day after doomsday
@pvandewyngaerde
@pvandewyngaerde 2 жыл бұрын
30 + 31 + 2 = 63. This is a multiple of 7. This explains why the even month days are the same.
@msolec2000
@msolec2000 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. And those 63 are split into 28 and 35 by the odd dates. :)
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 2 жыл бұрын
The really surprising thing (back when I found out, many decades ago) was that 400 years are a whole number of weeks - this is why an eternal calendar works. Fast check: 1 year = 52 weeks + 1 day, so 400 years makes 400 extra days; every leap year is another extra day, so one per 4 years makes 100, less one per 100 makes 4, plus one per 400 makes 1, add all up makes 497. Which is 7*71. So indeed, 400 years are an exact multiple of one week. I seem to recall that you can also verify that Friday the 13th is happening more than average in some respect based on this, but I've long forgotten the details. Oh, and don't forget that this is only true for the Gregorian calendar, not for the Julian, so make sure you don't go farther in the past than whenever the Gregorian calendar was adopted at that place! ETA: various typos
@chriswebster24
@chriswebster24 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, and 26 + 17 + 5 = 48, which is a multiple of 8. This explains absolutely nothing, but if you add 21 you get a fun game that couples sometimes play.
@therealax6
@therealax6 2 жыл бұрын
Bonus points for showing why it works when July and August, which are consecutive, have 31 days each. (Hint: why doesn't it work for the odd months?)
@maxono1465
@maxono1465 2 жыл бұрын
Where does the +2 come from
@harrypainter7472
@harrypainter7472 2 жыл бұрын
1:15 Most convincing wow ever
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 2 жыл бұрын
when you do well on a test that you thought you failed lol (im long out of school but that feeling stays with me)
@blue_tetris
@blue_tetris 2 жыл бұрын
WoW-wOwEeEe
@sshuggi
@sshuggi 2 жыл бұрын
This should be a drop in future videos as a little Numberphile/Bradyverse meme.
@_rlb
@_rlb 2 жыл бұрын
That needs to be a gif
@mollycollins2125
@mollycollins2125 2 жыл бұрын
Came from Mike Boyds channel
@MichaelaBennison
@MichaelaBennison 2 жыл бұрын
This was an episode of "Would I Lie to You" - Lee Mack had to convince the opposing panel that he could say the day of the week of any date. He was lying though.
@FCBanton
@FCBanton 2 жыл бұрын
Yeees! I immediately thought of him. Turns out it's actually quite possible!
@stomponpie
@stomponpie 2 жыл бұрын
I sort of like the idea that some producer thought there was a tiny chance Lee could come up with something like this on the show and fool everyone.
@__gavin__
@__gavin__ 2 жыл бұрын
That's numberwang!
@mina86
@mina86 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s rotate the board!
@LouisOnAir
@LouisOnAir 2 жыл бұрын
It's quite nice that after a full 400 year cycle of years and leap years (X is a leap year IF [4 | X & NOT 100 | X] OR 400 | X), Doomsday doesn't change, it's always Tuesday on the multiples of 400.
@arnaldo8681
@arnaldo8681 2 жыл бұрын
it means the number of days in 400 years is a multiple of 7. I found it to be the most surprising thing in the video
@gabor6259
@gabor6259 2 жыл бұрын
This is true only from the adoption of the Gregorian calendar.
@d.m.collins1501
@d.m.collins1501 2 жыл бұрын
And even if the dates WERE Gregorian, the Romans and their descendant nations didn't adopt the Sunday-Saturday week until 321 a.d. when Constantine was like "okay, let's do what Christians do." Before that, the Romans used an A through G date designation. And a couple hundred years earlier, they actually had 8-Day weeks!
@EnteiFire4
@EnteiFire4 2 жыл бұрын
If you keep track of the day of the week with a number, here are some great mental shortcuts: - When adding the numbers together, you can pre-remove the extraneous 7 (AKA compute the number modulo 7). So for example, 20 + 37 would become 6 + 2 (because 20 = 2*7 + 6 and 37 = 5*7 + 2). - "High" numbers can be converted to negative numbers. For example, a 6 can be replaced by a -1 and a 5 by a -2. It's not that easy to do 6 + 5 modulo 7 quickly, but -1 + 5 = 4 is easier.
@therealax6
@therealax6 2 жыл бұрын
...and don't be afraid of keeping the extra sevens. It might be easier to add 10 than to add 3. 20 + 37 is instantly 57, and in that case, it's faster to do the modulo once at the end.
@virenor
@virenor 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I just calculated my first date now and my doomsday happened to be 13, so I spontaneously converted it to negative 1 instead of 6.
@diegotrabanino8970
@diegotrabanino8970 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great shortcut! Thank you
@thecalendarninja
@thecalendarninja Жыл бұрын
👍 nice, i thought i was the only one who took advantage of using negative numbers to cancel things out faster
@KayvanAbbasi
@KayvanAbbasi 2 жыл бұрын
James Grime, why I originally started watching Numberphile probably 8 years ago. Still, an excited man and exciting to watch. Fun fact: He does not age! Knock on wood! :)
@ed6213
@ed6213 2 жыл бұрын
@@epsi So THAT"S why he finally came out on October 31!
@chriswyatt9869
@chriswyatt9869 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Boyd bought me here
@nzwakele
@nzwakele 2 жыл бұрын
I want to understand this so bad but i hvnt done math in 12 years
@somerandomweeb4836
@somerandomweeb4836 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, the return of James Prime
@thenasadude6878
@thenasadude6878 2 жыл бұрын
James Prime, leader of the MACSYMA, fighter against the Decepticons
@NoriMori1992
@NoriMori1992 2 жыл бұрын
@@thenasadude6878 Also known as OCTOMUS PRIME
@JonBastian
@JonBastian 2 жыл бұрын
I love this one, particularly back in the days of live meetings, because someone might ask a question like, "What day is Halloween this year?" and without checking or hesitating, I'd just answer It only took a few times before people would stop checking on their phones because they knew I was right. I never really mastered the giving the day for a date in a particular year trick, but since is the first clear and concise explanation of that part that I've ever seen, I'm going to start working on being able to do it. Thanks, professor!
@Scanlaid
@Scanlaid 2 жыл бұрын
"It's a bit numberwang" 😂 hilarious. It was, but still such a cool trick
@Rubrickety
@Rubrickety 2 жыл бұрын
But can he _prove_ it’s Numberwang?
@GGoAwayy
@GGoAwayy 2 жыл бұрын
Das ist Numberphile!
@kenthemaster
@kenthemaster 2 жыл бұрын
That's Wangernumb!
@teeweezeven
@teeweezeven 2 жыл бұрын
Very neat that doomsday only falls on four days every new century. I thought the fact that leap years are every four years, except for every 100 years, EXCEPT for every 400 years brought complications, but in fact it made it easier
@guteksan
@guteksan Жыл бұрын
It is not really easier. The fact that you mention is embraced in the Sun/Fri/Wed/Tue pattern for 1700-2000. Normally, if you would like to count the doomsday for +100 years, it would be 100 + (100 mod 4) = 125, but since every 100 years we are 1 leap year short, it becomes 124. Then, 124 mod 7 = 5. So you should add 5 every 100 years. 2 (Tue) + 5 = 0 (Sun) mod 7 , then 5 (Fri), then 3 (Wed). But every 400 years we get this extra leap year, so now we are adding 6 mod 7. 3 (Wed) + 6 = 2 (Tue) mod 7.
@Muhahahahaz
@Muhahahahaz Жыл бұрын
@@guteksan it’s easier because after 400 years, you’ve added (or subtracted, you could say) exactly 7 days. Which is to say, the pattern repeats So 2100-24100 are literally just Sunday, Friday, Wednesday, Tuesday again. There’s no need to do any new calculations :)
@woutervanr
@woutervanr 2 жыл бұрын
I was just looking through the old videos and wondering when James Grime was going to turn up again and then this is posted. What a coincidence!
@liriodosvales2009
@liriodosvales2009 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Boyd brought me here!!
@xanthe69
@xanthe69 2 жыл бұрын
Here after Mike Boyd's vid
@filipsperl
@filipsperl 2 жыл бұрын
It's also nice that the doomsdays work in both M/D/Y and D/M/Y format
@7636kei
@7636kei 2 жыл бұрын
The big nine only (anything past March), really. Then again we don't really have enough months in a year to make 3/14 ambiguous (unless we're running, idk, Mayan calendar [18 months of 20 days plus five outsiders iirc] for example?), and the mnemonics foe the Jan anchor (the one Prof. Grime spelt out, at least) also pronounces enough of the date to break ambiguities out?
@jansenart0
@jansenart0 2 жыл бұрын
2021 has the same calendar as 2077, which is the year the bombs fell in Fallout, so it was weird seeing this October on the walls when I started playing Fallout 4 again this week.
@MatDX-ej8nf
@MatDX-ej8nf 2 жыл бұрын
Cyberpunk year calendar
@williamarcor251
@williamarcor251 2 жыл бұрын
This will be a great video to show when I'm tutoring people on mod arithmetic. Always great to see James Grimes!
@niklaskpunkt8335
@niklaskpunkt8335 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Boyd Fam wya?
@kieronparr3403
@kieronparr3403 2 жыл бұрын
"It's a bit numberwang. " awesome
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 2 жыл бұрын
How can one not love the word numberwang. It's truly one of the best things from Mitchell and Webb.
@jamisonr
@jamisonr 2 жыл бұрын
What a treat to see James Grime back. He was the reason I subscribed how ever many years ago it was!
@skhiozier3038
@skhiozier3038 2 жыл бұрын
It’s almost Christmas, 2021. That’s wild
@_rlb
@_rlb 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Dr. Grime again! I listened to the Numberphile podcast episode featuring him just yesterday.
@TheZenytram
@TheZenytram 2 жыл бұрын
calling "Tuesday" as "Twosdays' completely broke my Portuguese brain.
@shirou9790
@shirou9790 2 жыл бұрын
that said the method will of course still work if you choose Sunday = 1 rather than Sunday = 0, which would indeed be way easier in Portuguese
@lhaviland8602
@lhaviland8602 2 жыл бұрын
Just wait for 2/22/22...
@harmidis
@harmidis 2 жыл бұрын
Right! In Greek and also in Portuguese Tuesday is the 3rd day, so it is called "Τρίτη" or "terça"
@therealax6
@therealax6 2 жыл бұрын
@@lhaviland8602 Oh, don't worry. That date doesn't exist in most of the world. :)
@BakrAli10
@BakrAli10 2 жыл бұрын
Doomsday method: 4/4 6/6 8/8 10/10 12/12 9/5 5/9 7/11 11/7 3/1 or 4/1 (leap) 28/2 or 29/2 14/3 pi 4/4 9/5 6/6 11/7 8/8 5/9 10/10 7/11 12/12 2000 = Tuesday Add the years Add the leap years (years/4) 7:31 Tips سبت = 0 أحد = 1 إثنين = 2 ثلاثاء = 3 أربعاء = 4 خميس = 5 جمعة = 6 Century: 1700 = Sunday 1800 = Friday 1900 = Wednesday 2000 = Tuesday 2100 = Sunday 2200 = Friday 2300 = Wednesday 2400 = Tuesday 9:53 Shortcuts for years: There are only 28 calendars, and then the pattern repeats every 28 years. 0, 28, 56, 84 0, 0, 0, 0 0, 12, 24, 36, 48, 60, 72, 84, 96 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
@adamschlinker972
@adamschlinker972 2 жыл бұрын
James was the first person i ever saw on Numberphile. Always engaging and entertaining.
@Lep_19
@Lep_19 2 жыл бұрын
I remember in a high school psychology class we watched a video about autistic savants and some of the incredible things they can do, and one of the things the filmmakers were selling as this "extrasensory, extraordinary talent" was a young boy's ability to immediately tell you the day of the week of any given date. They presented it (as I'm sure he did to them) as some innate function in his head that understood a relationship between the date and the day without any further calculation on his part. In retrospect, how quickly he was able to calculate them still is a pretty incredible skill, but it's funny to realize that he basically fooled these filmmakers into thinking he had what was a essentially a superpower rather than just being really quick at a math trick (and by extension any audience that wasn't familiar with something like Doomsday). Certainly fooled me anyways! Great video, by the way. I tried writing up a guide on this to test my understanding, and I couldn't get anything that wasn't overly verbose and immediately confusing. The way you were able to present this such that I could learn it in an afternoon is pretty remarkable. It really isn't too tricky all told, but there's so many isolated components that are difficult to justify without a deeper understanding of the mechanics (i.e. the 12 year pattern) that it's easy to get lost in the waters. Worth it though - it's a great party trick, as you say!
@ed6213
@ed6213 2 жыл бұрын
Concerning speed of calculation, the late Dr. Conway (the discoverer/inventor of the algorithm) was able to calculate the day of the week for any given date in the Gregorian or Julian calendar (past or future), within two seconds. He practised by having a log-in script on his computer display a random date, for which he would calculate the DoW.
@Lep_19
@Lep_19 2 жыл бұрын
@@ed6213 That's fascinating! Love the idea of the script, I may have to try that 😆
@MarcoMontaltoMonella
@MarcoMontaltoMonella 2 жыл бұрын
This one of those videos that remind me when I initially subscribed to Numberphile! Tricks + Math + James = ❤️
@noterictalbott6102
@noterictalbott6102 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see James again.
@janAlekantuwa
@janAlekantuwa 2 жыл бұрын
I've known a similar algorithm and love using it as a party trick! My birthday also falls on Doomsday The algorithm I know for working out Doomsday grom each year is a bit different: 1. Take the last two digits. If odd, add eleven 2. Divide by two. If quotient is odd, add eleven 3. Take that number mod seven 4. Subtract from 7 5. Add the century anchor day (1700: 0, 1800: 5, 1900: 3, 2000: 2)
@hijeffhere
@hijeffhere 2 жыл бұрын
This is the one I know too!
@SF-cq3lh
@SF-cq3lh 2 жыл бұрын
What if it’s even? And you are talking about the year, right? (Ie the last two digits of 1776 would be 76)
@mahiiii2112
@mahiiii2112 2 жыл бұрын
i have a doubt, how to know how many leap years to add 10:41.. im really confused please help me
@inari.28
@inari.28 2 жыл бұрын
@@SF-cq3lh in the first step, you'd just divide it by two. if it's even after that, you do nothing. e.g. for 1968: 68/2 = 34. 34 is even, so you do nothing. 34 mod 7 is 6. 7-6 is 1. 1+3 (century shift) is 4. therefore, doomsdays in 1968 were on Thursdays.
@wyattstevens8574
@wyattstevens8574 Жыл бұрын
@@SF-cq3lh In at least step 1, don't do anything.
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 2 жыл бұрын
An appropriate day to upload, considering that 31 Oct, like 10 Oct, is a doomsday.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 жыл бұрын
Halloween is doomsday. How fitting.
@ed6213
@ed6213 2 жыл бұрын
[sigh] I always get confused between Oct 31 and Dec 25. Aren't they the same? ;-) (Only old computer nerds like me need to answer. ;-)
@yashrawat9409
@yashrawat9409 2 жыл бұрын
Can't have enough of Jame's Numberphile videos
@lukasproper5830
@lukasproper5830 2 жыл бұрын
That was fascinating, I genuinely want to get good at that now.
@tfofurn
@tfofurn 2 жыл бұрын
I read about this calculation decades ago and could only retain the within-the-year part. I think James's mod-28 suggestion will serve me better than the original div-12. Thank you!
@oxwilder
@oxwilder 2 жыл бұрын
"It's a bit Numberwang." I love it!
@ErinnnnL
@ErinnnnL 6 ай бұрын
My 3 year old son absolutely loves Numberphile. Yes, 3 years of age. Started adding and subtracting and couldn't get enough of numbers
@skakdosmer
@skakdosmer 2 жыл бұрын
What about taking into account the transition from the now obsolete Julian calendar to the present Gregorian calendar, where several days were “lost” (which funnily enough worried a lot of people at the time), and which, by the way, happened at different times in different countries? In some countries it happened in the fifteen hundreds (I think), but in Russia it didn’t happen until the twentieth century, so the “October Revolution” actually took place in November by the Gregorian calendar.
@lo1bo2
@lo1bo2 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I was looking for this comment. Great Britain and its colonies switched in 1752. But realistically nobody is going to ask about a date that far back.
@Math.Bandit
@Math.Bandit 2 жыл бұрын
It didn't actually worry people at the time, to be fair. Matt Parker talks about it in his excellent book.
@erik-ic3tp
@erik-ic3tp 2 жыл бұрын
@@Math.Bandit, which book? Lost in Maths?
@therealax6
@therealax6 2 жыл бұрын
International time is a mess; international dates suffer from much of that mess plus the historical calendar mess. It's almost impossible to do this consistently that far back.
@DerrickJolicoeur
@DerrickJolicoeur 2 жыл бұрын
This is something I will definitely practice! I often want to know what day of the week something is on when discussing things with co-workers, and because my workplace has a zero-in zero-out policy I don't always have access to my phone. - Admittedly I could scroll through the calendar on a work computer (without internet), but it's awfully clunky
@endrehalasz
@endrehalasz 2 жыл бұрын
tell me more about this: "zero-in zero-out policy" what it exactly means
@jodlaa5142
@jodlaa5142 2 жыл бұрын
@@endrehalasz I think it means something like when they get to work they have to leave their phones somewhere and they get them only when they leave, as to perhaps not leak some secret information if it's something not yet released they're working on. Basically for security in a sense
@kpk1171
@kpk1171 2 жыл бұрын
This was such an easy video to follow! I watched this video one time and then practiced for an hour and got it down. Great video guys!
@piguy314159
@piguy314159 2 жыл бұрын
2:11 Such a relief those dates all mirror each other so we don't have to worry about which date format to use
@Robi2009
@Robi2009 2 жыл бұрын
Every video with Dr Grime is always cheerful and entertaining. I love his enthusiasm ☺️
@XanderNotZander
@XanderNotZander 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness it's been so long, James actually started my forray into ASMR many years ago lol, helped my insomnia ever since, and the content is fantastic as always
@digitalfootballer9032
@digitalfootballer9032 2 жыл бұрын
Worth a mention that "00" years are not leap years unless divisible by 400. So while the year 2000 was a leap year, 1900, 1800, etc were not.
@Piffsnow
@Piffsnow 2 жыл бұрын
That's funny. A dew days ago, I was rewatching your video on singingbanana from 2008 when you presented another method to find any day after 1900. :)
@PerspectiveInsightReviews
@PerspectiveInsightReviews 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen people do this and i always thought it must take something special to be able to do this. But now with less than and hour of practice I can do it within 30 seconds getting it right 9/10 times
@DavidvanDeijk
@DavidvanDeijk 2 жыл бұрын
Can we all appreciate how far Brady has come learning maths, like he really gets this and i think even considers this one easy. If you look back at the beginning of the channel that would have been so different.
@shiina_mahiru_9067
@shiina_mahiru_9067 2 жыл бұрын
I can recall that when I was a little child, I flipped over a brand-new calendar my mom bought (thinking of it as a new toy I supposed?). Then I realized: the date of the week of Jan 1 of that year and the next year (printed on the upper right of December page) was only differ by 1. Then I flipped over the old calendar, the same thing is true! I was amazed of this astonishing discovery. Then when I learn about division in 3rd grade, I realized: it was just because 365/7 has remainder 1.
@ed6213
@ed6213 2 жыл бұрын
Almost similar experience: I remember when my (now early 30's) son was three or four years old. We were in the kitchen and he studied a muffin tin for a couple of minutes. Then he came out with, "Dad, three times four is twelve, right?" It absolutely floored me!
@flikitisideways9953
@flikitisideways9953 10 ай бұрын
thank you very much i look forward to find more delightful math tricks on your channel
@esquilax5563
@esquilax5563 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I remember hearing about this years ago, no idea where anymore. Maybe in _Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman?_ Now do one that takes into account the dates of the switch to the Gregorian Calendar in different countries ;)
@lakshaymehta9399
@lakshaymehta9399 2 жыл бұрын
James: "Wednesday-third day" Joey: "u sure about that though?"🙂
@adamcetinkent
@adamcetinkent 2 жыл бұрын
Who? What? When-day?
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 жыл бұрын
THURSDAY! The _third day!_
@joeyhardin5903
@joeyhardin5903 2 жыл бұрын
who
@hampuslind7546
@hampuslind7546 2 жыл бұрын
Normally find explanations boring but u made this one entertaining! Well done, going to try and learn this now!
@brianh870
@brianh870 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering when Dr. Grime would be back! I'm only 3 seconds into the video and I'm already excited!
@nicosmind3
@nicosmind3 2 жыл бұрын
Lee Mack is the master of naming days of the year. Seems like he cant do it, but he's a master!
@Nompass
@Nompass 2 жыл бұрын
In Chinese, we actually call Monday through Saturday literally “Week day 1” and through to “week day 6”. Sunday is the weird cousin of the family though.
@CanariasCanariass
@CanariasCanariass 2 жыл бұрын
What is sunday called? Does it have any meaning?
@m_uz1244
@m_uz1244 2 жыл бұрын
what is sunday? ?? we need to know
@Xyzerius
@Xyzerius 2 жыл бұрын
@@m_uz1244 Sunday is called "Week Heaven" (星期天) or "Week-Sun" (星期日)
@x-pilot6180
@x-pilot6180 2 жыл бұрын
@@m_uz1244 Sunday in Chinese: Weekday day
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 2 жыл бұрын
reminds me of lojban where the weekdays are also ordered. so it's 1 day 2 day 3 day 4 day 5 day 6 day 7 day... or nondei, pavdei, reldei, cibdei, vondei, mumdei, xavdei. no(0), pa(1), re(2), ci(3), vo(4), mu(5), xa(6) Sundays are either nondei or zeldei, as ze is 7.
@abhinavdiddigam2330
@abhinavdiddigam2330 2 жыл бұрын
Actually I knew this when I was 11-12, as they teach this in India for 9th and 10th graders for a widely known Olympiad where one or two questions of this topic are asked
@1.4142
@1.4142 2 жыл бұрын
Also note that years are leap years if they are divisible by 4, but not leap years if they are divisible by 100, but are leap years if they are divisible by 400.
@twincast2005
@twincast2005 2 жыл бұрын
The centuries would've been great time to remind people of the 100- and 400-year rules of leap years. I need to see this written down to memorize it, but I love number patterns, so I really should get to it.
@FiliusPluviae
@FiliusPluviae 2 жыл бұрын
5, 3, 2 are the smallest three prime numbers, then there's a 0. there you go.
@akashachuas
@akashachuas 2 жыл бұрын
From Mike Boyd's video
@ignoringearthquakewarnings
@ignoringearthquakewarnings Жыл бұрын
Sometimes at work, I forget what day it is. Thanks for helping me how to figure it out!
@walt4670
@walt4670 2 жыл бұрын
I've gotten a few in a row now each under one minute mentally, using different centuries each time. It took about an hour and ten minutes of trial and error to get to that point. Thanks for sharing this cool math trick!
@xX12VincEXx
@xX12VincEXx 2 жыл бұрын
Came from Mike Boyd. Very well explained! I will definitely try this out when I have nothing to do 👍🏼
@Pax1t0
@Pax1t0 2 жыл бұрын
Me to
@DavidJSWayne
@DavidJSWayne 2 жыл бұрын
who else got sent here by Mike Boyd!
@muuuuha
@muuuuha 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation, taught myself this trick after watching your video, thanks
@ijeremyoliver
@ijeremyoliver 2 жыл бұрын
The British arrangement of dates really threw me for a second. There was no way for me to know the 4/4, 6/6, 8/8, and 10/10 were day/month. I wasn't ready!
@Goryus
@Goryus 2 жыл бұрын
According to Wikipedia, approximately half of all known "savants" are people doing this.
@K1lostream
@K1lostream 2 жыл бұрын
According to Wikipedia, approximately 88% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
@rustycherkas8229
@rustycherkas8229 2 жыл бұрын
@@K1lostream According to Wikipedia, half of all humans have "above average intelligence"... :-) (Wishin' I could meet some of them sometime...)
@JimmyLundberg
@JimmyLundberg 2 жыл бұрын
"Look, if you need help remembering, just think of it like this: the THIRD day, alright? Monday - one day, Tuesday - two day, Wednesday - when? huh? what day? THURSDAY - the THIRD day. Okay?"
@abheekkaushal
@abheekkaushal 2 жыл бұрын
You sir made my day i was looking for this
@found_it
@found_it Жыл бұрын
I've known about the "doomsday" moving forward every year thing for awhile now because my birthday is 10/10 and I've simply noticed this through the years so this was interesting to see
@halogenlampert
@halogenlampert 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing and I am so glad I was showed this video. I am totally picking this method up for party tricks
@macronencer
@macronencer 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad someone uploaded this because I used to know this trick and I forgot how to do it, mainly because I didn't practise often enough. Thanks! By the way, the only minor omission here was that you didn't warn people about most century years NOT being leap years. That only affects dates with century not divisible by 4, year ending in 00 and before March 1st of that year - but still, it's important. Did you know that there's a similar trick for knowing the phases of the moon for given dates? I used to be able to do that one as well but again, I forgot how. I seem to remember it was more complicated - perhaps unsurprising!
@oh-totoro
@oh-totoro 2 жыл бұрын
This is one thing I'm stuck on at the moment. Did I completely miss it in the video? It didn't seem to explain how we know whether a particular year is a leap year or not. And all the example dates given were easy ones from March onwards, so they didn't have to factor that in at all. If somebody gives me a date in January in the distant future of 3564 or whatever, how do I know whether the doomsday is supposed to be Jan 3rd or 4th?
@velienne1319
@velienne1319 2 жыл бұрын
@@oh-totoro To determine if a year is a leap year or not, you have to see if it's divisible by 4, it's as simple as that. However, if the year ends with 00, it has to be divisible by 400. For example, 1700 is not divisible by 400 so it's not a leap year, but 2000 is a leap year. 3564 is divisible by 4 so it's a leap year.
@Giofear
@Giofear 2 жыл бұрын
@@velienne1319 exactly this. But just to make it a bit easier, if your year isn't 1700 1900 etc. and you have year like 1956 e.g. you only care about the number 56 in it when determining the leap year you only want to find out whether 56 is divisible by 4 (as the hundreds and thounsands are always divisble by 4)
@mrjudge3722
@mrjudge3722 2 жыл бұрын
6
@gregb869
@gregb869 2 жыл бұрын
Yay! Missed James Grime
@cbhorxo
@cbhorxo Жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video! After watching it once, I'm now able to do the trick impeccably
@thomaswarriner2344
@thomaswarriner2344 2 жыл бұрын
John Conway died on the 11th April 2020, a Doomsday itself. RIP Sir.
@LegendaryFartMaster
@LegendaryFartMaster 2 жыл бұрын
James grime is always a treat!
@geckogra1747
@geckogra1747 2 жыл бұрын
"Monday, one day, Tuesday, two days, Wednesday, when's the day? Thurday! The third day!" Joey Tribbiani knows his stuff :)
@snowfloofcathug
@snowfloofcathug 2 жыл бұрын
I used to know this a few years ago but have been too lazy to brush up on it recently, thanks Singingbanana
@LurkerPatrol5
@LurkerPatrol5 2 жыл бұрын
James got me hooked on numberphile, always happy when he's on
@omri9325
@omri9325 2 жыл бұрын
Finally the Hebrew way of counting the days of the week has benefits.
@andrewchou3277
@andrewchou3277 2 жыл бұрын
Same in Chinese
@pierreabbat6157
@pierreabbat6157 2 жыл бұрын
Or Portuguese or Greek, but Portuguese says "domingo" instead of "prima-feira" and Greek says "Παρασκευη" instead of "Εκτη".
@fred_fotch_baseball
@fred_fotch_baseball 2 жыл бұрын
Same in Arabic
@musicboy16
@musicboy16 2 жыл бұрын
Here from Mike Boyd's Channel!!
@KS-di4bn
@KS-di4bn 2 жыл бұрын
I knew how to find what day a certain date was in every year but I didn't know about the dates. This was really informative!
@lizs004
@lizs004 2 жыл бұрын
In Portuguese, the days of the working week are numbered by default. Monday is the 'second day', Tuesday is the 'third day', etc... Only Saturday and Sunday have no number associated, but, because of the number system of the working week, I usually consider Saturday as the 7th day and Sunday as the 1st day.
@egilityx8777
@egilityx8777 2 жыл бұрын
POV: you came here after mikes video
@neongemstone_shorts
@neongemstone_shorts 9 ай бұрын
Here❤❤❤
@muhilan8540
@muhilan8540 9 ай бұрын
Who is Mike?
@neongemstone_shorts
@neongemstone_shorts 9 ай бұрын
@@muhilan8540 this video also teaching it
@OlivierWojewodzki
@OlivierWojewodzki 8 ай бұрын
I didn't lol
@egilityx8777
@egilityx8777 8 ай бұрын
@@OlivierWojewodzki didn’t ask
@aquawoelfly
@aquawoelfly 2 жыл бұрын
This falls apart if you take into consideration certain geographical locations that implemented leapyear at different times. OR before the gregorian calender when leap year was invented. Edit not invented but more accurately when the rules for leap years were adjusted
@Cuuniyevo
@Cuuniyevo 2 жыл бұрын
To add an anecdote to what you've said, my Mom has done a lot of research into our family tree and there are some people with 2 different birth years, depending on which reckoning is used. The old records have it listed as (making this date up because I don't remember a specific one): 1730/31. Because of the Church of England not getting along with the Catholic Church, England (and by extension the English Colonies) didn't switch from the Julian calendar until the 1700s. Fun fact though, the Gregorian calendar wasn't the invention of leap years. Julian's did that over 2000 years ago. The Gregorian added the extra rules about centuries to make it more accurate. Bonus fun-fact that I just learned today while double-checking my memory on this: In order to implement the Julian calendar, they just added a huge number of leap days to the year all at once to catch up. So 46 BC was 445 days long and called the "year of confusion". xD
@aquawoelfly
@aquawoelfly 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cuuniyevo there were also 10 days subtracted from different years depending on when your country choose to do it.
@aquawoelfly
@aquawoelfly 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cuuniyevo im part of the small number of people whose chinese zodiac is not the one for my birth year but the year previous. So im familiar with what your saying.
@klavesin
@klavesin 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of my father tought me this trick back in 1990. One only had to memorize a row of numbers for a year - for the year 1990 it is 0,3,3,6,1,4,6,2,5,0,3,5 - these are "offset" numbers by months, 0 for January, 3 for February and so on. Then just sum the date with the offset of the month and find the remainder of the division by seven - and that's the day on the week - 1 is Monday, 2 is Tuesday (here in Russia the first of a week is Monday). Later I extended the trick by adding offset for years, keeping in mind the 28-year cycle, and do on. I still use this trick to impress people :)
@LarsB
@LarsB Жыл бұрын
This is genuinely the best and most helpful video I have seen in recent years.
@Tonyswoodshop
@Tonyswoodshop 2 жыл бұрын
Who is here because of Mike Boyd?
@wecantry4393
@wecantry4393 2 жыл бұрын
Doomsday Algorithm. Monstrous moonshine, Free will theorem, Surreal numbers ; incredible mathematics by an incredible mind. We will never forget you John Conway.
@demerion
@demerion 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the Game of Life!
@dexobj
@dexobj 2 жыл бұрын
As strange as this comment will sound, the "Wowee" at 1:16 made me happy! It has been so many years since I've heard someone using it. Other than that, amazing explanation! Thanks for sharing.
@minaandherchaos
@minaandherchaos Жыл бұрын
This is my new favourite KZfaq channel now!
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